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Magic Live Loot! #229 · The Magic Guys

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  They're guys they do magic they are the magic guys.
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  Well hello friends and welcome to episode 229
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  of the fism winning podcast the magic guys
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  i'm your host nick day and joining me this week is daddy doug
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  say hi daddy what's up internet
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  magic nerds kindred spirits and naysayers welcome
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  to the podcast indeed now josh nabito
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  is currently in transit is literally on his way home from
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  the airport as you guys know we were at magic live in las vegas running an absolute
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  muck which is what we're going to talk about today we're going to talk about
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  the actual convention itself we're going to talk about all the magic loot we
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  purchased in the dealer's room which doug basically called home for several
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  days doug what was that like It was the trenches, man.
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  I thought I was prepared, but I was only a little bit prepared.
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  Honestly, it was thrilling. Let me just say that for sure. It was an amazing
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  experience to be in that room with literally everyone.
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  Everyone was there, right, Nick? Is there any magician that you wanted to see
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  ever that wasn't at Magic Live?
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  Like when we say everyone, Copperfield was there.
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  Blaine was there. Dan White was there Who wasn't there?
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  Chris Angel, Carissa Hendricks They were all there And they were all in arm's
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  reach and accessible And I chatted with all of those people I didn't chat with Penn, but.
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  I could have touched him if I wanted to. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Well, well, fans like that. So guys, we'll give you a quick breakdown
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  as to what happened on a day-to-day basis.
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  I have a copy of the brochure that we got along with explaining what happened was going on each day.
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  So let's give you guys who weren't able to make it a little rundown,
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  but before we do, let's say a big thank you to everyone here in the chat.
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  Scotty Link, Tim Maskin, Josh Nabita's in the chat. Let's go.
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  And Ed, it was so nice to meet Ed actually, both he and his partner. Agree completely.
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  Yeah. So nice to meet you, Ed. Yeah.
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  It's been some time at the booth just chatting. What a pleasant fellow.
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  Yeah, indeed. It was such a pleasure to hang out, have a bit of a chat,
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  and show him some magic, and have a nice exchange.
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  Caden, what's up? Gutbuster Mike, always a pleasure. And Gerhan,
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  good to see you, brother, man. So guys, let's begin with, oh, Gary Davis.
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  Gary Davis, welcome back. For those of you who don't know, Gary Davis had to
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  do a, it's probably not a very,
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  maybe i shouldn't be saying but seeing we are a community gary davis had
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  a bypass everything went well he's currently recovering
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  so guys send gary some love it's good
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  to know that you're on the mend buddy and we look forward to seeing you when you're
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  in good health again so gary lots of love from us at the magic guys and noah
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  good to see you too brother man so let's start with monday so those of you that
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  don't know the can the way it kind of works at the at the convention typically
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  most days there is a general session in which you go into a very large scale
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  arena and for two hours there is just one guest after another.
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  And then outside of that, there might be a short break to grab some lunch.
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  And then there is what's called focus sessions in which you have the ability
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  to see two of three typically.
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  I mean, you can push it to see all three focus sessions.
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  And typically that's three sessions of three amazing artists and you get to
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  see what the lectures are. So let's begin with the general session.
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  So Monday's general session was actually hosted by FISM winner, Rick Merrill.
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  If you don't know his routine, I implore you scope it out. It's an amazing routine
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  with a coin and pen, beautiful sleeving routines, absolute killer.
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  And in amongst that, we had Brian South, where I hadn't actually met before.
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  Are you familiar with his name? I'm not. Do tell about Brian South.
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  Is that the name? Yeah, Brian South.
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  He says here he developed stage illusions for professional magicians.
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  He's now creating paper tricks for hundreds and thousands of kids.
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  And that was interesting. Interesting chat, to say at least.
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  What I really enjoyed amongst this chat was Mack King, the ever legend himself.
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  He did a chat, and he was talking about character. And basically what he did
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  was he read an excerpt from his upcoming book.
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  So I'm really excited to see what that's going to be about. Yeah. Yeah.
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  It made some really good points. I actually, this was probably of all the general
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  sessions, my most favorite one. I really, really enjoyed that.
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  So, and then there was. Rewind, what about this book though?
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  What's the scoop on that? Any like, is it just, it's coming or is it close?
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  Did Matt talk about it at length?
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  He said it's not too far away. Yeah. it's uh
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  he didn't mention that but i'm
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  glad you asked that because this session closed out with
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  the amazing steven minch who has published more books
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  in this realm than anyone i know
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  so but we'll we'll touch upon that and we get to we circle back
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  to that in a moment so there was some really nice
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  touches on a chat from alex annald lee which was talking about from
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  cringe the classic he had this really cool idea of taking
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  routines and kind of popularizing them to make him easier to digest and
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  he actually gave us an envelope at the end of that chat so basically
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  all boring packet trick style things they was able to
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  then customize and make it easy
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  for kids to perform which i thought was adorable so he basically has like product
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  like he gave mark cards that children can actually read in order to be able
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  to do a magic effect and he gives you copies of these as part of being in the
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  general session so that was really really awesome but at the end of that What
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  was really awesome was Stephen Minch.
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  I mean, Doug, how many books has... Look, go.
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  Look, if that man writes a book, I just buy it. I don't think there's one I missed.
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  It was pretty remarkable. I don't think I have my... He had a book called Mind
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  Melds in the 70s. I might have missed that one.
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  So Jason England brought him out on stage. They laid a table out,
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  and they literally had...
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  Like, Webber grabbed fistfuls of books. DelGaudio, fistfuls of books.
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  And they just stacked this table up to the point you could barely see them,
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  like if you're in the front row.
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  And just peering over that was all the books. And that was like a portion of
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  the things he's released or been a part of over the years.
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  Not everyone enjoyed that part of the history. People just want to learn things
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  and leave. Me, I love history. As you guys know, we do the history lessons.
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  I thought it was brilliant. And the stories he had to tell were so great.
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  And one in particular that I want to share with you guys was one about this
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  trick from Tommy Wonder, where he did this trick with a sock.
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  And he didn't publish it in the Books of Wonder, but he did put it in the DVD set.
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  And the reason he did that was because there was someone in his native town,
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  country, and this guy would basically copy everything he does and claim it as his own.
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  But this trick was so good that he refused to do that.
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  Basically, that gentleman I make mention, he'd passed.
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  And after that, Tommy Wonder then took it upon himself to go,
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  okay, now I'm happy to share this. and he shared it in the Books of Wonder DVD set. What a guy.
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  Man, I got to revisit that now. Yeah, doesn't it make you just want to circle back to that?
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  It just blew my mind.
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  I could blabber endlessly. I'm going to not. Let's just talk about Stephen Minch at length one day.
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  I just want to wax philosophically about how great this man and his important
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  contributions to the art. It's so important.
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  We have a lot to talk about today. so yeah so
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  the focus sessions the three focus sessions on that
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  monday we had nicola arcane which is a
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  a kids performer female kids performer i didn't
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  catch that one although eric leclerc who i was rooming with he went and saw
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  it as he's now venturing into that realm he said it was great uh joseph barry
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  we've mentioned him only by name in the pod prior this is probably the first
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  time that a lot of people in the U.S. had actually seen his work.
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  Now, he lectured, and he was like, I need someone to help me.
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  I threw my hand up immediately, and I was able to sit there.
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  Both Eric and I were sitting at the table as he did the tricks.
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  It's staggering. And I've mentioned this in the past.
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  Yeah, go ahead. It's safe to say he's one of the most certainly advanced card men in history.
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  The world i would think yeah it's ridiculous
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  he has this notion of estimation and i asked him
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  like you know because people presenting questions and i said what kind
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  of things do you have with regards to drilling estimation like
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  should we number the deck like a neumonica stack and
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  then just try to like go i'm going to pick up 32 and then pick this
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  pick up 32 he's like no just just do it just do
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  it trust me you'll miss you'll miss by one or two cards like he
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  was just he was so brazen and in
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  the funny thing is he said to me because i haven't lectured since i lectured
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  with you in australia so it's been a decade
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  since he lectured and he was doing
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  this was he lecturing on estimation i know he has
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  a new book book is that the focus of the
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  subject matter well i i don't know
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  yet and the reason is that he only brought six copies with him
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  he only has six copies left to sell so i was
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  able to get his contact information and uh i've got a list
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  of about eight people who want to purchase that currently so i'm.
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  Sending him those details so that he can supply us
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  with those books and i'll be able to report back on that he also did agree
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  to come and be on the pod so let's go
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  let's go and then let me point the
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  interested students just while we're on the subject ed
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  marlow's manuscript on estimation is outstanding
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  in the revolutionary card technique series so if
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  you do have an interest in that and can't find joe barry's book
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  he does have some viable techniques for
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  estimation that are easy to apply and not like
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  you know it's not like you have to go crazy with you know
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  basically just look but there's some checks and things
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  you can add to your repertoire so correct yeah one
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  of the things he was saying you could do like a pharaoh check to make
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  sure you got exactly 26 like you just pick the deck and
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  just push in push out and you can kind of check that you've got
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  exactly 26 cards to do certain routines right he had
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  a beautiful bit that he taught with two dice and i know
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  that immediately when people saw it they rushed straight to the dealer's room they
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  were buying dice you know so yeah it all
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  it was all coming together and the last one that day was my
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  favorite lecture of the in probably the entire situation was
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  jonathan goodwin jonathan goodwin for
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  those you don't recall was planning an amazing stunt that sadly went wrong and
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  the stunt was he was hanging from a straitjacket escape and he was hung in between
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  two vehicles and he was supposed to escape before the timer had run out and
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  the two vehicles crashed into each other with him being in the middle.
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  We got to see the footage of it working, the actual filming didn't go as well.
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  And he fell, I believe like 30 feet or 30 meters to the ground and had years of recovery.
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  He did his talk about what he creates.
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  And even Ed says right here, the Goodwin's lecture was heart-wrenching and it
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  was because he is 50 kinds of brilliant and it's such a shame that that had
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  happened but the beauty of what he told us in the lecture was that he's happier than he's ever been,
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  And that filled my cup. Like I was, I haven't been so inspired by a lecturist in a long, long time.
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  And the moment I knew he was selling his book, I ran straight to the dealer
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  room to meet him. And I got his book right here.
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  It's The Method to My Madness by Jonathan Goodwin. And not only that, I got it signed.
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  And what it says here is, to Nick, see you on the podcast.
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  So we'll definitely get him on here to tell everything you need to know.
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  But effectively this book here consists of 25 years of TV magic.
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  This is not really something that's been publicized all too much.
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  There's not really many books out there to my knowledge that talk about how
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  to do magic for television.
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  So I am going to really enjoy this book. I can tell.
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  So that's, that's an absolute. Where is, where's he from? Is he an American? He's from the UK.
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  UK. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Yeah. And some of the things he made mention about like the health
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  system and whatever else were kind of important and you know
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  but but you know we're talking about this gentleman who who was an absolute specimen
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  who's gone through recovery still has a beautiful life loves
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  what he does consults like an absolute champion and and is content existing
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  you know through he's actually working alongside folks who are going to help
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  produce like wheelchairs to allow him to stand up you know you know we had a
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  conversation we had a conversation about like you know what sort of like nerve
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  repair and stuff do want to do?
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  And he goes, I think that the technology with regards to the disability and
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  moving in a wheelchair, that's going to excel a lot quicker than the ability to repair one's nerves.
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  And that's what he finds more comfort in. And he's not hard done by.
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  He's actually a beautiful soul with an amazing wealth of knowledge.
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  And he was really kind with his time.
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  So that was one of my
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  biggest highlights so thank you so much tuesday rolled
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  around and in this focus session we had an amazing uh chat which was it was
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  hosted by brian curry who i'd never seen before but he's a great emcee and and
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  comedian he's actually quite funny angelo carbone i was unaware that angelo
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  carbone was responsible for releasing so many tenyo tricks.
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  Are you aware of this, Doug? I know he was involved with that company for sure.
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  I don't know if I have a count on how many carbone tricks there are,
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  but yeah, I'm aware kind of.
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  Well, what was a beautiful privilege about being part of this general session
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  was that there was a lot of tricks that he's created that were never, ever released.
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  And it might just be due to the costs of producing it, et cetera.
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  But what I loved about this chat was he brought all
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  the prototypes that hadn't been released yet and he
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  showed us as many as he could in the a
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  lot of time possible wow that's a
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  good time it was such a privilege to be able to see that level of creativity
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  and not only did he show us a trick he showed us how it works so it was really
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  really wonderful to to be able to experience that because almost every year
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  he's been there doing something angelo cabone and he's just genius yeah,
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  so yeah it tends to release i hit at least
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  one hot item every year there's some yeah
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  some killers what was it like the gift was last year
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  yeah on edge that's
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  his right the the deck the balance is on itself
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  on the corners from the card castle yeah
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  brian curry then did a did a chat about character and so forth and to synopsisize
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  it super quick in a sentence it was basically in to be able to find your character
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  and have a decent balance is you look at like what your genuine character is
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  and then look at the polar opposites and then you can exist between those two realms.
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  And and have your character make sense it was a
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  really really good chat and i really enjoyed that so it's
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  a nice way to understand how and and he
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  used matt king as an example as well so that was that was wonderful so
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  it was very easy to understand as he as he gave it so but i enjoyed
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  that immensely after that was piff
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  the magic dragon oh doug just left it's okay
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  i'll carry it from here piff the magic dragon did a
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  really awesome lecture on a piece from his
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  show and what it was it's basically like an object
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  inside a jar of peanut
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  butter and that peanut butter jar then appears inside of
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  a giant mold of jello like enormous like a wedding cake size of jello and that
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  was absolutely awesome as well as that there was another young lady by the name
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  of Angela Aaron she was talking about costuming and she was responsible for
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  producing all the costumes for the illusionist team.
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  You know, like the 1903, all that sort of stuff.
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  Circus 1908. I think that the show was called. She's responsible for all that,
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  which is absolutely amazing.
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  And then the general session closed out with Curtis and Tracy Hickman,
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  who are responsible for this amazing VR experience called The Void.
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  They almost every year I've been there, they've lectured or shared something,
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  which has been really, really cool.
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  So they basically had a chat together about that
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  and i should probably i probably failed to make mention that the
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  theme of this year's magic live was stories and
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  so that's why a lot of these things are based around stories and which is super
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  fun and then the focus sessions the focus sessions were interesting so we had
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  bill goodwin who basically performed an entire mentalism act and then ended
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  up performing that i've never actually seen bill goodwin perform before dougie familiar with his work.
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  As a card man not as a mentalist and
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  as a card man i think he is a genius but
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  uh talk about this mentalism what did he do in
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  truth that was the only one i couldn't make because i had to
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  oh sorry no no i lie i confused myself i
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  apologized i was thinking drew back and toss that
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  was the mentalist so my apologies about that one okay that makes
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  more sense in my card man brain because yeah so
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  yeah it was drew back and toss who did like basically
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  a whole mentalism effect and then
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  at the end of it just explained everything it was brilliant yeah now i always
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  mispronounce this gentleman's name but he is the like resident bar magician
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  at the castle his name is mike piscota mike piscota i say piscota but i think
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  it's wrong i don't know you say piscota i I say Piscata. We get there. You say tomato?
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  One of the highlights for me was meeting this man.
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  As I journey to the West Coast at this part of my life, getting to the Magic
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  Castle and watching Mike Piscata work the bar is way high on my list of things to do.
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  So to see his face at Magic Live was great. Sadly, I didn't get to see his presentation,
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  but I'm sure it was amazing.
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  Yeah, that was great. And then the Bill Goodwin one was awesome because he basically
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  was talking about a new upcoming book which has a hundred previously unpublished
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  ideas from Bruce Servon.
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  Oh, interesting.
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  Yeah. That should be good. I'm a fan of Servon. Yeah.
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  So that definitely was an interesting one. Now, what was also cool was there
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  was shows in amongst in the evening.
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  So one was, like there was a downstage show, which was really great.
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  It was hosted by Nick Defott, who is 50 kinds of funny.
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  That's my guy. He's my favorite guy. He comes in the shop every week.
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  He always spends a little money.
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  He's always got some really creative things to talk about.
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  Nick Defott is like probably my current favorite Vegasite for sure.
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  And what a powerhouse of a magician.
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  Absolutely. And he, I sadly didn't, he was so popular, obviously,
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  that I didn't have an opportunity to sit opposite him and have a bit of a one-to-one.
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  And go, it would be great to get him on the show and have a chat and let everyone meet him.
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  So maybe we can tee that up. I'll twist his arm.
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  Yeah. There was also a close-up show, which, the names I don't have here, dang it.
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  But if memory serves, it was like- I know Giovanni Levera was in that show because
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  I peeked in and saw some of his set.
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  Aaron Fisher was performing and it was lovely to see both of these gentlemen
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  at the convention, I must say.
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  I don't know who else was in that room, but if it was just those two guys that
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  was the close up clinic but there was a close up show that had like Tobias Tobias
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  Dostal Tom Stone and a few others which escaped me and I feel really bad for
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  that I thought I had that in my notes here,
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  great show and what i loved about it it wasn't this generic type of show where
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  it was thank you very much good night mc comes out no welcome this guy no welcome
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  actually was a full coherent.
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  Show yeah and there was no breaks in between and there
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  was beautiful motivations to pull people up and get them on and
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  off stage like it was really nice it was narrated beautifully
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  like i i enjoyed it so much later in
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  the evening there was what's called the experimental theater concept
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  in that show there was a bunch of
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  amazing different acts the ones that come
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  to mind was trigg watson who had performed and he did this
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  awesome like a hologram thing i was like using ai to do to do an effect and
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  that was really really cool really exciting outside of that there was another
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  gentleman who performed this whole routine in reverse and it just blew everyone
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  away like it was so clever.
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  He did this thing with a whiskey bottle and just absolutely killer.
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  The standout for me was this young magician who was performing the cups and
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  balls, but he was using these clamps like the Danger Will Robinson robot clamps,
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  just these two pincer grips like this.
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  And I chatted with him briefly at one of the parties, but like he was doing
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  French drops with these clamps and doing this whole cup and bowl routine.
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  And what was hilarious was like the clamp had a wristwatch on it,
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  which would vanish and reappear under the cup.
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  And it would just, it kept happening and deeply fooling routine.
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  It was really, really cool to see.
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  I really enjoyed that. And then what closed out the show was this really interesting
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  experience where if you're familiar with silent discos, it's where you have
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  the headphones on and you basically just hear everything.
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  And the idea was that you watch this excerpt of this play where this gentleman
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  was performing a piece, but you can only hear it in your ears.
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  And if you took them off, it was just dead silence in the room.
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  Like it was, it was very interesting.
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  Very, very, again, very experimental, but also very, very fun.
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  Okay so where am i now it sounds experimental it was my friend it was okay where are we now,
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  the final wednesday session general session was hosted by andy gladwin and i
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  loved this session i was unaware that andy gladwin was like quite literally
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  chasing people around the planet to take down pirated websites. Are you aware of this?
• 22:22
  Andy Gladwin, I refer to Andy as the godfather.
• 22:25
  He's, he's the guy like in this business, certainly no.
• 22:30
  Andy's just the guy. And of course he fights crime along the way.
• 22:35
  Talk about what he talked about. I've heard this story like years ago as it
• 22:40
  was happening, but what's, what's the scoop?
• 22:43
  He basically told the story of chasing down folks that they believe were attached
• 22:49
  to these pirated websites.
• 22:51
  And he literally ran across the planet, going to Serbia, going to Egypt to track
• 22:56
  down and confront these people who are basically doing a disservice to magic.
• 23:01
  And that's staggering to me, man. That's just, that's Batman stuff.
• 23:07
  Don't screw with Andy Gladwin. You'll get a knock on the door.
• 23:13
  Imagine being, imagine being that guy. Hello? Oh shit. The Godfather's here.
• 23:23
  No, he had like some, like threatening situations. If memory serves correct,
• 23:29
  maybe death threats. And around that time, the Vanishing Inc.
• 23:32
  Warehouse, you know, burns down and, you know, it's sketchy.
• 23:37
  Yeah. It was, it was pretty staggering to hear the exchange that he went through,
• 23:42
  sharing the emails and so forth of, of the conversations that transpired back
• 23:47
  and forth of, yeah, like it was pretty staggering, but you know what?
• 23:51
  The guy stood his ground and you kind of need to respect that.
• 23:53
  You need to go, thank you for doing that, protecting that, because I feel like
• 23:58
  that's going to lead into a moment that I need to make mention.
• 24:00
  There was a little controversial during the magic live show and
• 24:02
  we'll get back to that as soon as we wrap up this wednesday after that
• 24:06
  there was a performance a special performance by
• 24:09
  the fism winning mentalism act mind to
• 24:12
  mind these guys do a coded act that is unbelievable truly staggering piece of
• 24:22
  mentalism and it was just an absolute pleasure to see in person and the way
• 24:27
  they can code to each other so quickly is staggering.
• 24:30
  I actually met them when I was registering the day before the convention actually
• 24:34
  began, spent a little time with them, had a nice chat.
• 24:37
  And yeah, it was, it was really lovely to see like the real work,
• 24:42
  see it in person. It was quite a privilege.
• 24:44
  I don't know if you've seen any of their work prior, Doug.
• 24:47
  I have not seen this couple, but it was quite the talk of the convention.
• 24:51
  Lots of people were remarking how strong this duo was.
• 24:56
  Yeah, news of me So Yeah.
• 24:59
  Absolutely staggering. And then after that was Ice McDonald,
• 25:02
  who did a beautiful presentation on all of the, I guess I see all the black
• 25:08
  magicians from the past is the description here.
• 25:11
  So it was really cool to see all those folks get their dues and celebrate all
• 25:17
  the ones that had come prior.
• 25:18
  To hear stories of people going through their hardships in what was a very difficult
• 25:24
  time for the African-American community in their early stages of,
• 25:29
  you know of very young america to
• 25:32
  be able to perform and and and you know
• 25:35
  build a name for themselves was quite difficult so it again
• 25:39
  i love history so i really enjoyed his presentation and
• 25:42
  i had the pleasure of thanking him for it afterwards in
• 25:45
  the in the casino and then outside of that there
• 25:47
  was just a good old chat from penn and teller just talking about
• 25:51
  all you know the past kind of 50 years
• 25:53
  of magic that they've done and just all the bits of stories
• 25:56
  in between really funny things their very first
• 25:59
  public performance where they were
• 26:02
  talking about like oh i'm going to jump over like i'm going to jump over a
• 26:06
  bunch of cars on a unicycle with
• 26:09
  a rocket attached to it and it was just a couple of flares that were attached
• 26:12
  to a normal unicycle and he just kind of rode across them and it caused like
• 26:17
  a huge outrage and a brawl like they they more like it was basically like an
• 26:22
  entire university of frat people that came and they were so deeply disappointed by the presentation.
• 26:27
  They ended up kicking the crap out of them, physically assaulting them.
• 26:31
  It was an epic, epic tale. Yeah.
• 26:34
  Absolutely wild. And then as far as focus sessions go, that we had Tom Stone,
• 26:39
  who is an absolute superstar.
• 26:41
  I've got both his books, The Vortex and Maelstrom.
• 26:44
  I love that. Tobias Dostal was talking about his creativity.
• 26:47
  He's very much like the Willy Wonka of magic. And then outside of that,
• 26:51
  once that wrapped up, there was the close-up clinic.
• 26:53
  The close-up clinic to describe it was basically an enormous
• 26:56
  room with giant tables and seated
• 27:00
  at each table was someone lecturing teaching and you were able to sort of migrate
• 27:06
  between those tables and learn a little something along the way that lineup
• 27:10
  consisted of jason england and r paul wilson norman beck aaron fisher giovanni Levera, John Stetson.
• 27:19
  Paul Vigal, sorry, not Vigal, Vigal, Paul Vigal, and Vigal, Vigal.
• 27:25
  Oh, it's people that hurt? Okay, let's say that again. Paul Vigal and Jeffrey
• 27:30
  Wang, who is an amazing sliever.
• 27:34
  So that was wild.
• 27:36
  Yeah. So that is the gist of it.
• 27:41
  And then we get on to which Tim Askin is asking how was working in the dealer room, Doug.
• 27:47
  Well, wait a minute. What about the gala show? The Wednesday night gala show. Did you go to that?
• 27:52
  Well, the gala show, we went out. So here's what's up.
• 27:57
  During the convention. You didn't go to the gala show?
• 28:01
  Look, I, this is, this is the thing, right? I wanted to, but here's,
• 28:05
  but here's what happened.
• 28:08
  Justin Flom had made an appearance at the convention and he had invited a whole
• 28:14
  bunch of people, including myself and Josh to his, to a house party at his very home.
• 28:23
  And for basically the majority of the day, we, everyone had their opinions of
• 28:28
  it, that they would never, that they sort of disagree with what he did.
• 28:32
  And I'm sure we can all agree why, for those of you who don't know who Justin Flom is,
• 28:37
  he is an amazing magician who then swayed his focus from producing beautiful
• 28:42
  magic to exposing it and it really has say that i don't because that's not his
• 28:48
  focus i don't think exposing magic is his focus well let's let's let's word
• 28:52
  that better i think i agree with you on that one i i,
• 28:55
  agree with you on that one it's very hard to say because i'll be honest i haven't
• 28:57
  consumed a lot of his content i don't know the best way to describe it let's
• 28:59
  say that he's not careful with protecting magic secrets and is prone to expose
• 29:04
  large-scale illusions on occasion,
• 29:07
  which has upset quite a large portion of the magic community.
• 29:11
  Understandably so in some respects. Yeah, that is a much better way than what I described.
• 29:17
  Of course, back in the day, I saw him lecture about 15 or 10 years ago at MagiFest,
• 29:24
  and I had just the highest respect for this man.
• 29:27
  He was independently producing magic specials
• 29:30
  for YouTube before it was cool and doing
• 29:33
  it on the highest level you can go back and watch justin flom
• 29:36
  his magic parties from his it's like a
• 29:39
  house party with magic all day he films it these
• 29:42
  are epic magic specials and yeah this man's skill level is of the highest order
• 29:47
  his choices are questionable let's what are we going to talk more about this
• 29:53
  what's going on so you went to the party so what had happened was after umming
• 29:57
  and ahhing and enormously whether or not we should go for the principles,
• 30:01
  I was on the fence about it because there was a lot of people who were like,
• 30:05
  if you guys go, I'm never going to consult for you ever again, or this, this, or that.
• 30:09
  Like there was a lot of people who took a stand against that. And yeah.
• 30:12
  What had happened was Josh and I were roaming about and we bumped into the amazing,
• 30:16
  talented Adam Trent and we had lunch.
• 30:20
  It was just the three of us and we're sitting at a table and he asked,
• 30:24
  like, you guys go into the party.
• 30:25
  And we kind of said, look, we don't know. Like it would be a cool to experience.
• 30:29
  It would be cool to report what it was like being at their home to the,
• 30:33
  to the listeners of the podcast and let you guys know what it was like.
• 30:37
  You know, I think that would be cool.
• 30:39
  And Adam Trent is the one that helped me make up my mind. And all Adam Trent said was this.
• 30:45
  He said that they're very good friends. And like all friends,
• 30:50
  you disagree on some things.
• 30:52
  We disagree on politics. We disagree on religion and we disagree on the way
• 30:57
  that he does his magic, but that's not really an excuse to not be friends.
• 31:01
  And I thought about that because I have an abundance of friends who conduct
• 31:05
  themselves in a way that I would never, or they're against my belief system,
• 31:10
  personal belief system, yet I still consider them friends.
• 31:13
  And I still consider those people to be worthy of sitting at my table and breaking bread with me.
• 31:18
  And I think that in the spirit of that, I went, if Adam Trent can forgive it
• 31:22
  in his heart to be around him and calling him a friend, who the hell am I?
• 31:26
  An absolute stranger who's been offered nothing but the hand of,
• 31:30
  I wouldn't even say friendship, but just to be offered to go into a gentleman's
• 31:35
  home and say, come to my house, Putty, and have a look at my cool home.
• 31:39
  Yeah. You know, and that's why we decided to go and have a look at it.
• 31:45
  And, and through that, we had the pleasure of meeting a whole bunch of really
• 31:49
  lovely people who were there.
• 31:50
  And those folks will at some point be coming to visit us here on the podcast.
• 31:55
  So, you know, his house is brilliant.
• 31:57
  I mean, I can describe it over a lot of time, but if you just look it up on
• 32:01
  the socials, you'll be able to see a much better depiction of it versus my verbal diary.
• 32:07
  He very much shows it off on his, on his social media. And it's great that,
• 32:13
  you know, his house and his clips of his house.
• 32:17
  Yeah. I also don't regret going because he had organized some shows.
• 32:21
  He'd got some acts from the strip to come and perform there.
• 32:24
  And these were actually friends.
• 32:26
  Well, these are friends of mine from Australia that I hadn't seen in three years.
• 32:31
  And I was basically walking towards the stage where it was. And I said,
• 32:35
  oh, my friend Poppy was there with her, Poppy.
• 32:37
  She's like, yeah. I'm like, where's my, yeah. And then, and I was like,
• 32:41
  oh my, and I hadn't seen them in years. Right. And so I run over, I give him a big hug.
• 32:45
  I say hello. My friend Derek was doing his bubble act. And I just,
• 32:48
  I hadn't seen these guys in ages.
• 32:49
  And if I hadn't gone to the party, I would never have caught up with my friends
• 32:52
  that I hadn't seen in a very, very long time.
• 32:54
  And so I don't, I don't regret going, you know, and I totally appreciate that
• 32:59
  some people stood their ground and hung back. I totally respect that because
• 33:03
  they've been hard done by his actions.
• 33:06
  You know, he didn't take anything from us being there. He was hospitable.
• 33:10
  We had a drink. I got some fun.
• 33:13
  Oh, that's a very noisy mic. A very hot mic, Josh. Rushing into the scene.
• 33:18
  Come on, Orbedo. Just get in here.
• 33:21
  God damn it. How is the mic really that hot? Oh, it's hot.
• 33:26
  I'll be right back. Just like you, sexy. Yeah. Yeah.
• 33:30
  It's really nice, Josh and I are a little bit less pale than where we were before
• 33:34
  we went to Vegas because we got to sit in the sun for a bit. It's kind of nice.
• 33:39
  Hot here, huh? 110 degrees.
• 33:43
  It is warm. It is hot there, honestly. But lovely. Yeah.
• 33:48
  And so, look, party was great. It was catered. There was drinks.
• 33:53
  We had a drink. We had a laugh. Hung out in the backyard.
• 33:55
  Met a bunch of people. I wouldn't have the pleasure of meeting if I hadn't gone.
• 33:59
  And that's the part. Any better? yeah that's great Josh you
• 34:02
  are just in time to talk about the dealer room our
• 34:05
  magic loot are you guys ready to talk about loot well
• 34:09
  firstly what's up everyone let's go
• 34:12
  I literally just drove from Vegas to
• 34:15
  LA got on the plane flew LA to New Zealand flew from
• 34:18
  New Zealand to Australia got in the Uber came right
• 34:22
  here cracked a V and now I'm what
• 34:25
  I'm here and chatting to you guys far
• 34:29
  up and then i'm setting up and i hear nick start
• 34:32
  digging our own grave of how we're never going
• 34:35
  to be accepted in the community anymore yeah into
• 34:38
  the party i'm like no but i couldn't i couldn't
• 34:41
  set this up any faster i'm trying i'm
• 34:44
  trying to reflect on how much damage mr flaw may
• 34:47
  have actually done and i'm having problems even remembering like
• 34:50
  what he exposed that was really that detrimental just
• 34:53
  quickly there's i think there's three
• 34:56
  things and there's two things i can definitely remember right now
• 34:59
  but so one was quick change like he had his
• 35:02
  his missus the girl in
• 35:05
  the video got hide from him and clearly
• 35:08
  do a proper dress change um act
• 35:12
  but you see it all and then the other one was the disappearing
• 35:15
  dice to m&ms just boom on the black art all
• 35:19
  right in the open he's like ha ha look if i fold this up it looks.
• 35:22
  Like a thing he did he did the bar stool as well i remember that the bar stool
• 35:26
  going up in there that was one right that's commercially available and yeah
• 35:30
  yeah it's bad like it's yeah obviously not all the videos are like that but
• 35:34
  just want to throw that in there just give your mic a pinch a little Ladder, bud. Excellent.
• 35:41
  But look, as professionals and as social media professionals and high level
• 35:46
  pros, you have to be in environments to meet other professionals that are operating at a high level.
• 35:51
  And I don't, you know, I think you made a, an intelligent choice and I still like you.
• 35:58
  Yeah. Well, look, we, I felt as you know, for, for like, we were there,
• 36:03
  we were representing the pod.
• 36:04
  We, I, I personally felt like it was our duty to go there and see what the situation was.
• 36:09
  Some people experienced it in a very different way.
• 36:12
  But that's not my place to say like with regards to
• 36:15
  any hostility that came out of interactions in that home i
• 36:18
  certainly wasn't going to go into a man's home and disrespect him
• 36:22
  or push any sort of uh negative bias in in his
• 36:24
  home he he was he welcomed us into his home he was
• 36:27
  polite he fed us he drank us and we
• 36:30
  we left politely that's all good but when they take away our
• 36:33
  fism award because you went to flom's house i'm gonna
• 36:36
  hold that against you guys can we just agree to blame eric or claire because
• 36:41
  he was really the gateway drug to us going he was he was yeah he was about right
• 36:47
  i was showing him like eric got wild at that party he was trying to like start
• 36:51
  a start a fight and he ended up punching me in the arm i got this bruise here look at that i,
• 36:56
  You know what I mean? Like he was, Oh dude, it was well, I almost belted him.
• 36:59
  I almost kicked the shit out of him. I'm not even joking. Yeah.
• 37:02
  Eric's such, he's such a character that he will do anything for the bit,
• 37:07
  like, or like for the story,
• 37:09
  dumping a bucket of ice on someone at the pool, just because,
• 37:12
  you know, throwing up pepperoni on the casino table to see what the dealer would
• 37:16
  do. And they see it's not a chip he's put down.
• 37:19
  It's pepperoni, just a million things. And some we can't mention on the pod.
• 37:24
  But just funny. funny it's funny i wasn't reading with him so it to me is funny
• 37:29
  well i was and it was not fun.
• 37:36
  Yeah i'm curious about this obviously we nick and i did get it's easy to recognize
• 37:42
  us as aussies but doug what was it like for you because you're very recognizable
• 37:46
  in the magic community but you're also in one place everyone knows where to
• 37:50
  find you i'm sorry if you already brought this up but Like, how was that?
• 37:53
  Well, we haven't really talked about me being in the dealer's room yet. It was a parade of magi.
• 37:58
  It was great to be there and see everyone, all the fans of the pod.
• 38:03
  I heard so much positive feedback.
• 38:05
  Hey, y'all. Thank you. Thanks for stopping by the counter and buying stuff where
• 38:10
  we had an incredible couple days of sales, but just nothing but positive energy.
• 38:15
  And like I said earlier, when we started, I think I got to see
• 38:18
  every single person I wanted to see from that
• 38:21
  vantage point you know i spent time with
• 38:25
  endless and endless number
• 38:28
  of amazing magicians yes and
• 38:32
  it's it's crazy what uh the internet will do and
• 38:35
  help uh like i i was chatting to
• 38:38
  the creator of siri who a lot
• 38:41
  of people will know who is also a magician and
• 38:43
  he just goes to me oh yeah i want to go see doug because everyone talks
• 38:47
  about how his shadow coins to the best version of coins across
• 38:50
  so i'm gonna go see him yeah adam shire
• 38:53
  yeah yeah what was
• 38:57
  also really what was also really nice is how many
• 38:59
  folks stopped josh in amongst our walkabout just to tell him how much they enjoy
• 39:05
  his content like that really filled my cup that was so cool did you get recognized
• 39:10
  as me at all because we look similar to them no i don't think so no one called me,
• 39:17
  Josh. And I did have a name tag, so that kind of helps.
• 39:20
  Oddly enough, I had four or five guys think I was Jason Maher.
• 39:29
  Yeah. Was everyone going up to Josh going, hey, didn't you play in a band?
• 39:34
  No, I didn't hear that. God damn it. They should just, yeah.
• 39:38
  But I realized it was really cool just to see how many people come up and say hi.
• 39:44
  And it already broke that initial barrier because they knew who I was.
• 39:47
  So we could just chat and jam and stuff.
• 39:50
  And I realized where the algorithm is serving my content.
• 39:55
  It's all to magicians in the US. like even
• 39:59
  at the party that we shall never speak of again some magicians
• 40:02
  that i was looking forward to meet came up to me and were like dude
• 40:05
  i love watching your videos and i'm like what the hell why why
• 40:09
  how how and anyway so that
• 40:12
  was crazy yeah and yeah now
• 40:15
  i've seen magicians to book me and then making that content
• 40:18
  was all worth it yeah and look i i know
• 40:21
  it was a touchy subject we sort of debated whether or not we talk
• 40:24
  about it we didn't post we'll go in there but i just felt like you
• 40:27
  know what i'm just i think it's worth addressing we are genuine people we're
• 40:30
  not liars we are dishonest but we're honest in doing so and i just thought like
• 40:34
  yep yes we went yes so we can talk about it anything else you want to talk about
• 40:38
  or you have questions we'll pick it up in the discord but guys i'm dying to
• 40:42
  move on to the loot let's talk about the magic loot are you ready ready.
• 40:47
  Best trick okay you ready for this this one
• 40:50
  oh yeah baby eject i'm
• 40:54
  gonna demo it real quick so let's say that you're performing and you
• 40:57
  drop your pen whoops oh that would be
• 41:00
  so cool if i cast that without looking the best thing ever i mean
• 41:05
  he did it that was a shitty uh example of it
• 41:07
  but isn't that just so cool oh there we go there we
• 41:10
  go let's go baby yeah so
• 41:15
  this is for the listeners at home this is
• 41:17
  a sharpie marker that launches
• 41:21
  at will into the air correct yeah that's
• 41:24
  right it's a great bit between any act
• 41:27
  you're doing and when it was demonstrated to us the guy threw it on the ground
• 41:31
  and it bounced up and he caught it but then he also had it like in his magic
• 41:34
  case and it as if you have a tiny assistant in your case you know you click
• 41:38
  your fingers boom shoots out i know uh roddy roddy mcgee was demonstrating this
• 41:44
  it was at the trick trick boom booth.
• 41:46
  I don't know if it's his trick, but that's what we're talking about. Boom eject.
• 41:52
  By Ruddy McGee. It is. It's a banger. I love it.
• 41:56
  I am like, basically, I looked at it, that's so cool. Josh leaned to me,
• 42:00
  he goes, oh, you could use it like this.
• 42:02
  And he, because I do a coin and pen routine and I just went doing it and bought,
• 42:06
  we bought three. So it was just.
• 42:09
  How much are those? They're like 150 bucks? More.
• 42:14
  Oh my God. Yeah. Two for a hundred. That's what we, that's why we went, went in on it.
• 42:20
  And then Eric saw it and was like, yep, sold anything
• 42:23
  flying out of the case is funny so yeah so that's
• 42:27
  an absolute banger love that one next thing yeah go
• 42:30
  on go on oh the the no
• 42:33
  risk ring on shoelace the new method coming
• 42:36
  out it will require a little bit of construction to
• 42:40
  your costume slash pants but
• 42:43
  it is basically a foolproof no like
• 42:46
  if you're not familiar with this i was this is brought to my attention very early
• 42:49
  in my magic career richard sanders had done a version of this
• 42:52
  where you know it doesn't always connect to your shoe
• 42:55
  this is foolproof it will 100 always go
• 42:59
  to your shoelace and so i that's the
• 43:02
  baby shoe right or you're on your actual shoe
• 43:05
  your actual shoe your actual shoe yeah cool so
• 43:08
  and basically they were demoing this at the stand and
• 43:11
  it was he was doing it ad nausea like he would like pick it
• 43:14
  up give it to me it was gone back on his shoe like pick it up give it to
• 43:17
  me it was gone back on his shoe like it was that quick and it reset like so
• 43:21
  beautifully i just went nice i've always loved i've always loved the plot and
• 43:25
  i love that it's like repetitive yeah it's like a callback it keeps happening
• 43:28
  i i just love that and i'm like oh what else can i put in my shoe can i put
• 43:31
  a ring can i put this can i put something else so i i had to have it and i think
• 43:35
  that's an absolute banger.
• 43:37
  Yeah, I got it too. I got it too, sight unseen.
• 43:41
  Nick told me about it and I just freaking bought it because the enthusiasm sold me a loan.
• 43:47
  That and I would say Eject and Leviosa were the two hot things that were humming around the room.
• 43:54
  Yeah, with the mobile phone more so.
• 43:59
  Everyone wanted to get a floating mobile phone because obviously that fits in
• 44:04
  everyone's act and costs a lot of money.
• 44:07
  But fortunately, I made a decision at the start of the year to only do effects
• 44:12
  that my expert sleight-of-hand character would do.
• 44:15
  So I was really lucky. I looked at it and I was like, it's very fun,
• 44:19
  but my character wouldn't do it, so let's move on.
• 44:21
  And that, I think, saved me a lot of money at this convention.
• 44:25
  Just realizing I won't actually perform it, so just leave it for the rest of the Madurai.
• 44:32
  Doug, you've played around with one? surely i'm sure you have them uh you know
• 44:37
  we got them in the shop but at the 250 price point combined with the fact that
• 44:43
  invisible thread is my kryptonite i haven't opened the thing.
• 44:47
  Well we picked we picked some up and i just haven't opened it yet so but i think
• 44:52
  like what you said is the same i don't i don't ever levitate anything i think
• 44:56
  john armstrong echoed that sentiment it's not one of his superpowers i'm okay
• 45:01
  with that yeah yeah yeah So that was, that was a tough thing too.
• 45:07
  You walk around and you watch a magician deal, uh, demonstrate an effect.
• 45:11
  And in the moment, it's just so good because they have the perfect environment to show it to you.
• 45:16
  And you're just like, oh, and it's, it's quite hard to hold off.
• 45:22
  It's a good item. I think it's, it's valid. And I think there'll be lots of
• 45:26
  people happy to do that thing. I think it's good social magic for sure.
• 45:29
  You know, but like you said, it's a weird thing to put in your act.
• 45:34
  And at the end of the day, you're holding a fake phone at the end of it.
• 45:37
  So there's things to navigate from that point as well.
• 45:41
  Yeah, absolutely. What'd you buy next, Nick? We got, I got the Optics Pro.
• 45:45
  I have the old version of Optics, but this is the Pro version that makes it
• 45:49
  a lot easier to vanish the phone.
• 45:51
  It does require a jacket, which I represent. And so I saw this and I just went,
• 45:57
  I know it's a utility. I'm going to use it at some point.
• 46:00
  And I know you use it, Josh, to open your show. It's a killer effect.
• 46:03
  I literally, yeah, I got it a
• 46:06
  few weeks before doing my two day of presenting with
• 46:09
  Google pixel their phone so i worked
• 46:13
  it in my show for a few weeks at theater magic and then how like how perfect
• 46:17
  is that google pixel to them think i engineered this you know phone transformation
• 46:23
  effect for their show and and it was i you know it arrived in time is what that was so good.
• 46:31
  Yeah who's the producer of that item tobias dostell and henry harris yeah oh
• 46:38
  okay yeah Before we go to the next one, Tim Askin is asking,
• 46:44
  Doug, what was the big seller for Trix Supply?
• 46:47
  I was demonstrating rising cards all weekend. So I don't know.
• 46:52
  Sold about four dozen of those.
• 46:54
  I forgot to get one of those. I'm so regretful now. Dang it.
• 46:57
  Yeah, I was stuck. I stuck with the old school and, you know,
• 47:00
  we got a great version of it. Local craftsman makes it.
• 47:02
  And I figured there'd be enough guys swinging the new stuff and maybe a few
• 47:06
  young kids that didn't know about the old school goodness. So I sold all we brought.
• 47:11
  That's all I could do. And yeah, I was selling lots of coins too.
• 47:16
  Cause you know, I was doing that routine a bunch. Yeah.
• 47:20
  Hell yeah. And I saw it and I think
• 47:23
  it's the best version I've ever seen personally. I think it's amazing.
• 47:26
  We kind of stepped in as the general purpose magic shop.
• 47:29
  And I don't think there was five minutes where I wasn't accepting a sale from a happy customer.
• 47:33
  So we sold all kinds of stuff there, you know, color changing knives,
• 47:37
  change bags, trick decks of cards you know cups and balls it was just uh you
• 47:42
  know i think if there's anything lacking in the dealer room it was that they
• 47:45
  could have had another general kind of shop for people,
• 47:48
  you know to get some more things you know what would happen is someone would
• 47:51
  lecture like some mentalist was lecturing on a copper silver coin after the
• 47:56
  lecture we got bum rush for copper silver coins we sell out you know and it
• 48:00
  happened a couple times yeah like that so So, yeah, that's great.
• 48:05
  There was another absolute killer effect was the perfect glass glass.
• 48:11
  Production by henry harrius basically just a glass production of
• 48:14
  it but you know it's it's a good utility
• 48:17
  i'll use it at some in some capacity you know i
• 48:19
  think it'd be perfect for weddings to host a toasted
• 48:22
  drink or something of that nature i think that'll be killer oh yeah
• 48:25
  so i like that one a lot the only the other one that
• 48:28
  we got was in the last day there was a stand where there were
• 48:31
  always like six people deep and then we decided to
• 48:34
  pop over and say what's up and he showed us a couple of things and then i was
• 48:37
  like what is this it is called infinity wine you know yeah and basically this
• 48:45
  is water to wine effect and i just and he showed us how it worked and,
• 48:52
  explained that it's like repeatable six times from a single glass and i just
• 48:57
  went oh i need that in my act and then i like i wrote a whole routine in my
• 49:02
  head because i remember i went like i'm taking it and you were kind of like,
• 49:05
  why? And I go, imagine this.
• 49:06
  And I told him my presentation and Josh went, that's so your character go for it.
• 49:10
  So it all worked out pretty well with that one. It was such a solid effect, like prop.
• 49:15
  And the fact that he could keep redoing it and the wine is still a full red
• 49:20
  color, like six times later, it,
• 49:24
  Great, great stuff. And I pretty much bought a lot of similar stuff to Nick.
• 49:29
  I bought the Henry Harris appearing glass. I bought both versions.
• 49:33
  They have a wine version, like a wine glass and a just a normal tumbler,
• 49:38
  I guess you call it. Yeah.
• 49:40
  And then the only two different things I bought that were different was I found
• 49:45
  this little Chris Rollins stand. And he had this nice little eight ball effect,
• 49:49
  which is a pack of cards, which all have basically a yes or no description.
• 49:54
  So you'd ask it a question, shuffle the deck, pick a card out,
• 49:58
  and it would give you an answer.
• 50:00
  But there's effects built into it where you can have someone write down an object
• 50:04
  of anything. They put it in the box. You never go in the box again.
• 50:07
  And you have them turn over cards as if you're playing 21 questions.
• 50:12
  And by you saying a question, you know, is this a living object?
• 50:15
  The card will tell you yes or no. and after a couple, whenever you decide to,
• 50:19
  you can then go, oh, that must mean the thing you wrote down is a car and you can nail it.
• 50:25
  And so it's different to a card trick and I'm excited to kind of play with it
• 50:29
  because if my character was doing mind reading, this is maybe the style it would
• 50:34
  be because it's like it's the cards kind of helping. It's not me going,
• 50:38
  I know what's in your head.
• 50:40
  And I feel like there's one other thing. I bought heaps of decks of cards.
• 50:44
  It was really cool to see Bicycle Playing Cards have a stand there.
• 50:47
  And they also sponsored the lounge where everyone could jam.
• 50:51
  I got some bike merch at this film.
• 50:54
  Mike is showing off his chest with the bicycle printed shirt for those listening.
• 50:59
  Yeah, they were really involved this year. I bought a spade lapel,
• 51:02
  like the actual spade that would be on an Ace of Spades with Bicycle Playing Cards.
• 51:07
  And they sort of put it into this crystal acrylic thing.
• 51:10
  So it's going to be nice for that too. What the hell is the last thing that
• 51:14
  I bought that I'm excited to play with?
• 51:17
  I don't know. As far as gimmicks go, I had a really good time at the Jonathan
• 51:23
  Libet stand where he has the Stranger app. I use this for an effect that I'd
• 51:30
  written, but I just hadn't purchased it yet.
• 51:32
  I was basically just waiting there to go there and save myself,
• 51:34
  you know, a lot of Australian dollars. As you know, the currency exchange isn't amazing.
• 51:39
  So I bought this. It's fantastic. Yeah.
• 51:42
  And, you know, you'll see the routine give birth at the Theater of Magic very, very soon.
• 51:46
  And then I got books. I got books. So what was interesting was,
• 51:51
  like, we got John Armstrong's book.
• 51:53
  So as you know, we interviewed him before flying out.
• 51:56
  And he was kind enough to send the books our way. Signed. Bless his heart.
• 52:00
  Thank you, John. While you're talking about books and guests that have been
• 52:04
  on here, I wanted to spotlight Eric. Is it you, Haas? You, Haas? Yeah.
• 52:10
  He's been on the pod and was kind enough to drop a book off at the stand.
• 52:15
  And let me tell you, this is the favorite thing that I got at magic live.
• 52:18
  This book is amazing. It's a practice playbook for magicians.
• 52:21
  It's a breakdown of 20 something different mindsets from some great magicians.
• 52:26
  And the production on this book is incredible. Did you guys get a copy of this? Yeah. Yeah.
• 52:32
  Okay. He brought one over and he said, I wanted to make sure you got one to
• 52:35
  Doug. And I love this book.
• 52:38
  Basically everyone can watch his episode from like
• 52:42
  a year ago or the start of the year eric you has and
• 52:45
  he interviewed us and what he's
• 52:48
  done is made a book on all of the best advice that
• 52:51
  each magician gave him when he interviewed them and
• 52:55
  so you can actually watch him because in the episode
• 52:58
  we had with eric he was interviewing us and
• 53:02
  so it's kind of cool to see it go from that into
• 53:05
  real life into this physical thing yeah and i
• 53:08
  was proud to add that two kilos of luggage onto me
• 53:11
  no doubt if you if you want to if you.
• 53:14
  Want to scope it out it's episode 174 you can
• 53:17
  scope that one out of when he interviewed us and he did a great
• 53:19
  job and he was so lovely that he was at most sessions of
• 53:23
  sitting next to me having a chat and yeah i was really thankful
• 53:26
  it's nice to be in a book let's be published you know crazy
• 53:29
  really crazy oh before i forget open
• 53:32
  change was the other effect i bought what's that open
• 53:35
  change is a bill change which works with
• 53:38
  australian currency which is crazy that's the
• 53:41
  one it's the one where you're cupping someone's balls and it looks
• 53:43
  like the note that's in there sorry for anyone
• 53:46
  listening that sounds very weird you have your hand does sound weird but
• 53:49
  it's open your hand is palm up you have a note there
• 53:52
  and just with a little flick it changes into
• 53:55
  another bill and you can immediately just open it right up
• 53:58
  show both size give it away whatever and and
• 54:01
  i asked him would it
• 54:04
  work with australian currency and he's like you know what if you
• 54:07
  have australian currency on you i'll build you one right
• 54:10
  now and he did so he sold it to me so i now have a five dollar american into
• 54:17
  five dollar australian boom very cool yeah and so that was it but otherwise
• 54:24
  man i gotta give a big shout out to franco pascali if he's listening. Oh, my God.
• 54:29
  He was such a... I feel like we bonded a lot over the course of the convention
• 54:36
  because we were always hanging out together and showing little knacky moves and...
• 54:40
  Anyone who's watched the episode we had with him, he's just a beast and he blew
• 54:44
  our minds every day with some new piece of card magic.
• 54:47
  And I was really fortunate to be shown some stuff that he doesn't want on video.
• 54:52
  So he like taught me and he's like, just, you know, let's just keep this between magicians.
• 54:56
  And I was like, all right. And this is crazy stuff.
• 54:59
  So that's one of the other gems about going to
• 55:01
  magic live is people will share these little things that
• 55:05
  aren't available as a product anywhere they're just
• 55:07
  bro to bro kind of thing man yeah
• 55:11
  the bar scene was real
• 55:14
  like you go down to the bar and it you know it was yeah an event you're just
• 55:20
  sitting there with folks like doug mckenzie and and dan white and they're just
• 55:24
  you know just doing stuff you're like what's going on andrea is like winning
• 55:28
  on craps and you're just like it's not real life Danny Garcia,
• 55:33
  the first day we got there, Danny Garcia comes up to us.
• 55:37
  He's like, boys, I will do the pod. I promise. All right.
• 55:40
  I just want to let you know, I'm not avoiding you. We're like, holy crap.
• 55:43
  Cause we have been trying to message him a lot, but obviously he's a busy guy,
• 55:47
  but it was not real life going there.
• 55:49
  It was, and obviously meeting Doug in real person too. That,
• 55:52
  that didn't, that was crazy.
• 55:54
  That was crazy. Although Doug was busy working and I'm, and we're just busy
• 55:58
  being Aussies running around the convention. But finally...
• 56:03
  I know what Doug smells like, and I'm proud to announce he smells like success. Okay.
• 56:08
  Success in hats. Let's go. Now, Nick, everyone's asking about the Melbourne Theatre of Magic.
• 56:15
  Can you give them a little what's up about that now?
• 56:19
  The little what's up is on sale. It is effectively on sale.
• 56:24
  There's a link on my socials, but I will post it on the Magic Guys stories.
• 56:29
  We can hit the link and see everything you need to know. it'll be
• 56:32
  kicking off here in melbourne on september 6th
• 56:36
  let's go yeah beautiful venue
• 56:40
  absolute stunning venue everything you
• 56:43
  need to know will be in that link and you can see you can
• 56:46
  come and see it for yourself fellas it'll be a good time if
• 56:49
  you want to double dose i'm flying down to melbourne to open
• 56:52
  for nick on the october date so
• 56:56
  if you want to see a magic guys special theater
• 56:59
  of magic that's where it's gonna be uh so
• 57:02
  you couldn't squeeze me in the budget we could do all three
• 57:05
  if you get me a plane ticket dude if you're serious we we
• 57:08
  there's we can definitely make that happen one month that
• 57:11
  would be clear i'm not serious right now like i
• 57:14
  need more shit on my plate but why in australia no.
• 57:18
  I am no i'm kind of serious but there's
• 57:21
  no way i fly to australia anytime in the near future so
• 57:24
  yes not the immediate thing but it's it's it's
• 57:27
  it's in put it on the to-do list the magic guys does
• 57:30
  the magic theater that'd be yeah we'll tie it in
• 57:32
  with your lecture tour okay yeah that's what
• 57:35
  we'll do to be clear yeah so to be clear what we're talking
• 57:38
  about is the brisbane theater of magic is a
• 57:41
  thing that i keep talking about and putting up videos about nick's come and
• 57:45
  done it many times and smashed it and you know we have now a towomba theater
• 57:50
  of magic where we usually we would go from brisbane to towomba to perform there
• 57:55
  and now Christopher Wayne being overseas in Boston right now, he's set up there.
• 58:00
  He's like, let's do one there. And then the last time Nick came over, we were like.
• 58:05
  Nick's so good at this. Why don't we just, instead of him having to come all
• 58:09
  the way here every time, how come we don't just set him up in Melbourne?
• 58:13
  He runs Theater of Magic Melbourne. And so that's what it is.
• 58:17
  So Big Nick, I don't, yeah, I'll just say Big Nick. I want to say,
• 58:23
  you know what I'm trying to say.
• 58:25
  Big Magic Nick is, yeah, it's going to be headlining there. And so go show some love.
• 58:30
  Go say what's up. And it's very exciting moment to have your own parlor,
• 58:34
  your own parlor magic theater to just work the routines that you're not having
• 58:39
  to win a crowd over every five minutes when you're roving or at a corporate gig.
• 58:43
  This is like your new home. So congrats, Nick.
• 58:47
  Thanks, brother. It's pretty awesome. And looking forward to showing you guys
• 58:52
  some of my creations that I finally have the big Nick energy, as Alex Lam says.
• 58:59
  That's what I should have said. Yeah. Yeah. Let me tell you,
• 59:02
  certainly one of my highlights for Magic Life Week was having you in this apartment
• 59:06
  and watching your amazing magic in person.
• 59:09
  I saw one of the best card tricks I've ever seen in my life,
• 59:12
  and that is a lot of card tricks.
• 59:14
  So thank you for sharing your magic here. And it was just a pleasure to,
• 59:18
  you know, spend time with you in general, Nick K.
• 59:21
  Josh, I didn't see you enough to talk good about you, but maybe next time. Next year, I promise.
• 59:27
  No hard feelings. We were all crazy. We were all busy.
• 59:31
  Now I know what's involved because I imagine no doubt you'll be working the stand again next year.
• 59:36
  So I just want to make sure I don't count on the convention time to hang out with Doug.
• 59:41
  It's going to be probably before I feel like, because afterwards you'll be destroyed.
• 59:46
  I did. I came down Wednesday night and threw it down for four or five hours in the bar.
• 59:50
  I didn't see you guys down there, but I know other things were happening at
• 59:53
  that time as well. But, you know, I was trying to get the hang time in there. Yeah.
• 59:57
  I did see you briefly, actually. Yeah. Little side note.
• 1:00:00
  I, I did get to go to the gala show you guys were talking about.
• 1:00:04
  Cause for me, it was on a different day.
• 1:00:06
  Oh. And so the time I was there, they opened with Danny Cole doing his chair,
• 1:00:13
  like suspended in the air, you know, routine.
• 1:00:16
  And I made a, I'm tired guys. I've been, I've been doing a lot.
• 1:00:20
  You're a king, Josh Norbido. But the, the highlights for me was,
• 1:00:23
  so yeah, there's Danny Cole doing just the most beautiful real
• 1:00:27
  looking magic that's right yeah i did see that show then oh
• 1:00:31
  yeah you did see yeah colin cloud vegas headliner
• 1:00:35
  colin cloud was there and did like the most i gotta
• 1:00:38
  say the most entertaining pin code unlock there's way more into the routine
• 1:00:43
  but essentially what is a pin code unlocking routine it's the biggest playing
• 1:00:49
  version of that i've ever seen and so much theatrics in it in like a five minute
• 1:00:53
  bit really impressed and this show is great and
• 1:00:56
  his he has so much production value in that
• 1:00:59
  show he does it here is highly recommended if you like mentalism or
• 1:01:02
  yeah yeah absolutely then we
• 1:01:05
  saw uh there's a the classic uh it's one
• 1:01:08
  of the first fism winners i remember watching doing a manipulation
• 1:01:11
  act from like 15 years ago he's still smashing it his name starts with an a
• 1:01:16
  and that's not great referencing for a podcast that's going to live on forever
• 1:01:20
  for me to not say his full name and then we had nick defart emceed it and it's
• 1:01:26
  the first time me seeing him perform and oh my god he is so unique and funny and just.
• 1:01:32
  What about Carissa Hendricks? Carissa came by the stand and happily spent about
• 1:01:38
  a hundred bucks on random silks and things.
• 1:01:40
  She was putting together something for, did you guys see her?
• 1:01:44
  Only in passing. Yeah. Chris, uh, you know, she created Lucy Darling here at
• 1:01:48
  the Melbourne magic festival.
• 1:01:49
  So it's, we've had a long going friendship and she's, she's now got her own room there in Vegas.
• 1:01:55
  Uh, finally, she worked the MGM. I think it was a two week run.
• 1:02:00
  I bet she'd be a perfect fit on a Vegas stage.
• 1:02:03
  She is Vegas, right? Her character is Vegas, you know? Yeah.
• 1:02:07
  Basically, yeah. I think when we left the convention to go see Colin Cloud and
• 1:02:13
  then Atomic Saloon is when the closing session happened where Carissa came on. Okay. I believe.
• 1:02:21
  And so we missed that, but... I was happy to give her my phone number.
• 1:02:26
  So I'm like, hey, you need anything in Vegas? I'm your guy. that's
• 1:02:29
  great so one degree of separation yeah yeah
• 1:02:33
  yeah speaking of other like female amazing female
• 1:02:36
  magicians magical katrina was kind enough to give me
• 1:02:39
  her lecture notes that was very those are actually really good lecture notes
• 1:02:43
  man there's a lot of great professional advice in her lecture notes yeah lecture
• 1:02:48
  note is called the modern marketing magic and so i look forward to getting through
• 1:02:52
  that i got so much reading material thank goodness i've got a book club i also
• 1:02:55
  got these These were sent to me to collect from Vegas.
• 1:02:59
  It was the Castle Notes by Steve Friedberg.
• 1:03:02
  Oh, Steve. Yeah.
• 1:03:06
  So looking forward to that. And then this book here, interesting.
• 1:03:11
  Continental Magic. The reason I got this was I was, so Teller was,
• 1:03:15
  you know, they did their talk.
• 1:03:17
  Is that the old book, Continental Magic, from like the 70s?
• 1:03:21
  Yeah. Oh, wow. Frank Garcia and George Schindler. Yeah. Wow.
• 1:03:26
  Yeah. Well, so the thing was, right, we, Teller was walking about,
• 1:03:30
  and I love Teller for this because the reason was I was at the Lumen stand who
• 1:03:34
  do a lot of very, very expensive products.
• 1:03:37
  And I was looking at them because I think that if I'm going to get
• 1:03:41
  particular type of you know trans pad it was going to be theirs and i was about
• 1:03:47
  to drop after conversion about four and a half grand and i bumped into teller
• 1:03:52
  i bump into teller and he goes i need you to be my bodyguard and i went okay
• 1:03:57
  and so all right but it will cost you four and a half grand.
• 1:04:03
  So i i stood with teller everywhere we went just to
• 1:04:05
  help him like even he was being bombarded by everyone i was like sorry teller
• 1:04:08
  we're out of time i got to get you to your session and then what ended up
• 1:04:11
  happening was the dealer room shut down and everyone
• 1:04:14
  was like you guys are cool have fun and
• 1:04:17
  so we had the whole dealer room to ourselves and we just went to all
• 1:04:20
  these different places we saw this amazing effect that was
• 1:04:23
  created by by thoughtcast these these amazing
• 1:04:26
  humans they do this really crazy effect where like it
• 1:04:29
  was a very basic demonstration but it was an etch a sketch
• 1:04:32
  in a box and you go name any
• 1:04:35
  name any object and and they go like or any animal like blah
• 1:04:38
  tiger no worries open the box and
• 1:04:41
  give them the etch a sketch the etch a sketch is ungimmicked you can
• 1:04:44
  let them keep it crazy crazy method
• 1:04:47
  to make that happen absolutely phenomenal but then we went
• 1:04:50
  and perused all these books and teller then gives me this
• 1:04:52
  book here content is all magic and he's like you need to
• 1:04:55
  you need to buy this and i was like okay he's like
• 1:04:58
  you because you're either buying it or i'm getting it for you i was like it's cool i'll get
• 1:05:01
  it no worries but he didn't have the ability
• 1:05:04
  to pay by credit card and i i'm putting everything in
• 1:05:06
  my credit card because it's it's a deduction so it just goes through the business no
• 1:05:09
  problem and he was like not can't
• 1:05:13
  do it and i was just like dang it and then teller was just like no no
• 1:05:16
  no grabbed his wallet out and actually bought me this book as a gift so
• 1:05:19
  wow really teller money really really kind of him he's such a lovely guy i have
• 1:05:26
  nothing but love for teller i really do so i'll read that in good faith to him.
• 1:05:31
  But again magic lab was about stories and we went there with the intention of
• 1:05:36
  creating a lot of stories.
• 1:05:37
  A lot of things we shouldn't and couldn't mention in the pod,
• 1:05:40
  but you know, those are for the discord.
• 1:05:42
  So if you want to scope out the discord at some point, ask your questions,
• 1:05:46
  we will do whatever we can.
• 1:05:48
  What do we have on for next week, fellas?
• 1:05:50
  Coming to you live from our rooms we have
• 1:05:53
  an exciting episode it's going to be saucy and
• 1:05:57
  so much to tell you finally the
• 1:06:00
  saucy episode it'll be a surprise it'll
• 1:06:03
  be a thing too yeah yeah the other thing too that happened at magic live which
• 1:06:07
  is great for the podcast is we met so many new friends that are going to come
• 1:06:11
  on the podcast so what actually really helped is that now we've opened this
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  pipeline of of additions to come on and share their work and and,
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  you know, lift them up as well.
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  So that was, I think, a good enough reason why we're going to just have to keep
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  going there every year now because it's for the podcast. Exactly. It's for the podcast.
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  When we got to meet Milan from the Pensacola Magic School, big love to him.
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  You know, we got to meet amazing new friends. Josh, Koffer, brother man,
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  big love. There was Jason from Canada. There was Steven.
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  His name escapes me, but like those guys, like all these amazing, cool
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  new people that are just so thankful to set up a friendship
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  bizarro got to catch up with him these are all people
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  who and eric was such a nice conduit for
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  that because eric leclery is so outgoing that he's
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  just like this is nick fizz a minute podcast
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  baby and we're like i guess you know and they're
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  just like oh i want to be in the podcast i'm like can i be in the podcast so we'll
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  be prospecting to all those lovely lovely people and you guys
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  we'll let you know in advance if we can uh in the
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  discord so we can like get your questions in advance or join us
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  live but like yeah it was definitely a very fruitful visit.
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  And it was really nice to get the the thanks from
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  uh everyone who does listen in magic labs all you guys all you
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  guys who stopped us to say hi and that you enjoy the pod that
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  means the world to us thank you so much for your kindness and there's
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  no uh beef with any other podcasts we
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  we got to chat with everyone oh can we tell them the story to
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  wrap up the episode well it i
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  don't think that's it hasn't happened yet so oh yeah
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  we gotta wait yeah okay but but yeah yeah yeah
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  we'll tell you doug but
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  yeah we ran into david pan paul longhurst such
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  a we jammed with paul for a while yeah and uh
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  yeah jonah played some blackjack with him and the
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  first person i see when i
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  line up to register is scott wells and i'm
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  like hey what's up scott and so you know it's fun to
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  see everyone's just you know there was there was
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  like you know whatever people are saying about everyone's like
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  oh i wanted to win i wanted to win but everyone's cool everyone's just like
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  in real life everyone's bright and friends and yeah yeah what we're trying to
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  say is that like we we lead with kindness we care about community and i believe
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  that's probably why we got the accolades we've got you know like everyone knows like i i.
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  And we were at the saloon bar watching little people do strip shows and stuff.
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  Like it was a wild, wild night, right?
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  I get a text on my mobile phone from Scotty P telling me he's just landed like an enormous gig.
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  And I show my wristwatch to Eric LeClaire and I say, this is why we do the pod.
• 1:08:56
  This is it. And I responded to Scotty P with a video from all of us on this
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  balcony going, guys, give it up. He just got this massive gig.
• 1:09:06
  And everyone was like, let's go, baby. And then we sent him that video to congratulate
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  him because that's what we care about.
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  We don't lead with hostility. We are not against each other.
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  There is no love lost. And so we had the best time with, you know,
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  we can call them competitors, but we don't. We call them friends.
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  Friends that know we're the best.
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  Thanks for listening. It's time for us to disappear now. Disappear now.
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  But we'll see you again on the next episode of The Magic Guys. Yeah.