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Katie Woolf spoke about The Big Issues with Dave Tollner and Mix104.9's News Director Matt Hepworth · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: It is Tuesday morning and it is time for the
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  Speaker 1: big issues. Thanks to Klono Community Association and Aboriginal loaned
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  Speaker 1: operated and community lead Organization from the Top End to
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  Speaker 1: Tenant Creek and joining us seeing the studio this.
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  Speaker 2: Morning, Dave tolda good to see you, mate, and we've.
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  Speaker 1: Got Maddie Hepworth filling in for Damian Hale.
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  Speaker 3: Is a big fella.
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  Speaker 2: Maningrida.
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  Speaker 1: He usually goes and says, get out of my mum
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  Speaker 1: when he's visiting Maningreda.
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  Speaker 2: She's out there. Always good fun, I'm sure for them
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  Speaker 2: in Maningreda emulate inter.
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  Speaker 4: Get a Katie. Great to be with you.
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  Speaker 2: Right, A bit of a mixer.
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  Speaker 3: You could go else I can't.
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  Speaker 5: Key.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, you've got to be careful to colislist to act
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  Speaker 3: on me.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's get into it because there's been much on
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  Speaker 1: the agenda and it's only Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: But I am going to just.
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  Speaker 1: Play a bit of audio for you from yesterday and
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  Speaker 1: it is the AFL and T chairman Sean Bowden. He
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  Speaker 1: caught up with Matti Hepworth yesterday when I was off crook.
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen to what he had to say in
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  Speaker 1: relation to the potential development of a stadium for our CBD.
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  Speaker 4: Designs for a three hundred million dollars sporting stadium in
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  Speaker 4: the heart of the Darwin CBD have been revealed.
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  Speaker 6: This is a facility first and foremost for all of
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  Speaker 6: the Northern Territory and all sports. We obviously want to
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  Speaker 6: use it for high level AFL games, and we think
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  Speaker 6: that there's scope for more NRL games. You've got a
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  Speaker 6: League soccer, then you've got the Asian Super League. With
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  Speaker 6: a facility such as this, there'd be no reason you
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  Speaker 6: wouldn't see some of those teams coming in.
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  Speaker 3: We got union, you could build it up.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I know that, Maddie.
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  Speaker 1: You asked plenty of questions about this with Sean Bowden yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: My biggest question is where are we getting the money?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I said, they won't be going to the government
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  Speaker 4: for it. He knows it would be the wrong time
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  Speaker 4: to put a hand out and ask for any kind
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  Speaker 4: of money. But he did flag potential Commonwealth investment as well.
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  Speaker 4: He realizes that the Northern Territory government, I mean the
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  Speaker 4: stadium's proposed three hundred million dollars, the government don't have
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  Speaker 4: thirty dollars to spare at the moment, so he said,
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  Speaker 4: private investment is where it's going to come from, but
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  Speaker 4: they could certainly seek support from the Commonwealth government as well.
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  Speaker 2: I'll let Dave talk before I Sensing a bit of
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  Speaker 2: a pipe dreamer, I asked him, we've.
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  Speaker 4: Seen these things before, Sewan and he goes, no, he goes,
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  Speaker 4: I promise you. He goes, I want to make this happen.
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  Speaker 4: And I said, well, you know, we see you know,
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  Speaker 4: big projects like this flag three hundred million dollars and
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  Speaker 4: there's all this fanfare about it, and that's the last
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  Speaker 4: we hear about it. This is probably the second update
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  Speaker 4: we've heard. We got the initial one.
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  Speaker 1: In and look like you know, I'm always cautious to
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  Speaker 1: just knock people down when they come through with ideas
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  Speaker 1: because I know that it's really difficult to come through
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  Speaker 1: with ideas and then continue on down the path to
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  Speaker 1: actually try to make it come to fruition.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if they could pay for Tia Stadium, you know,
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  Speaker 3: if if the AFL is that cashed up, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they've got three hundred million dollars to throw around, why
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  Speaker 3: do they need to be in a subsidized AFL stadium?
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  Speaker 2: You have to get they're obviously looking for investors, aren't
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  Speaker 2: they They're not.
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  Speaker 3: This is my point though, you know currently they can't
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  Speaker 3: afford the stadium they're currently in. And a week or
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  Speaker 3: so ago I went to the Eels game. I've been
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  Speaker 3: to the Yels game out there now. Wouldn't miss them
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  Speaker 3: with no, I wouldn't miss them. I love the yields.
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  Speaker 3: But it's it's it really is disgusting, you know. It's
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  Speaker 3: to sit there and watch a game a rugby league
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  Speaker 3: on an Ossie rules oval is nuts. You're sitting outside
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  Speaker 3: the boundary on the ISI rules field. It's another twenty
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  Speaker 3: or thirty meters away to the to the sideline of
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  Speaker 3: the rugby league and it's not a it's not a
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  Speaker 3: venue at all that you would hold.
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  Speaker 1: The way that I always think about it is you
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  Speaker 1: can kind of go all up, well, they've got one
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  Speaker 1: in Townsville. You know, they've got them in different locations
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  Speaker 1: around Australia.
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  Speaker 3: But the Cowboys don't play exactly, don't play on a
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  Speaker 3: Nazi rules over.
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  Speaker 2: We have an NR.
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  Speaker 1: They also have an NRL team the same as in
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  Speaker 1: even in other locations like Cans they've got the QRL,
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  Speaker 1: so they've they've got then that tier that's underneath the NRL.
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  Speaker 1: Like here in the territory, we don't currently have an
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  Speaker 1: AFL team. We don't currently have you know, the tier
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  Speaker 1: underneath either and we don't have and like we don't have.
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  Speaker 2: It for the AFL or for the NRL. So I
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  Speaker 2: just wonder.
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  Speaker 3: In a in a subsidized stadium, wholly subsidized, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and to sit there and think now that they can
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  Speaker 3: raise another three hundred million dollars, you'd have to say,
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  Speaker 3: were aware have they been in the last twenty years?
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  Speaker 3: I guess they play their own way.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: The other side of the argument and made you probably
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  Speaker 1: spoke about this yesterday, is that it would draw people
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  Speaker 1: into the city and it would make us a bit
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  Speaker 1: of a you know, we're finding that we're a bit
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  Speaker 1: of a sporting location right now, even for those training
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  Speaker 1: for the Olympics, for other sports and things like that
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  Speaker 1: in the territory.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, do we capitalize now while the iron is hot? Personal?
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  Speaker 3: Look, I think one of the greatest disgraces is that
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  Speaker 3: the government walked away from Richeson Park the another time
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  Speaker 3: of rugby league. Now we had a plan to spend
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  Speaker 3: twenty five million dollars on that place a lot of money.
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  Speaker 3: Government would have taken it over because rugby League couldn't
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  Speaker 3: afford to maintain it. But the idea was that you
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  Speaker 3: would have a stadium there that you could have all
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  Speaker 3: of those big soccer, rugby union, rugby league games in
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  Speaker 3: plenty of seeding capacity and all of that sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Knocked on the head moved out to Souse at Marara.
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  Speaker 3: They don't even have a long term lease there. I
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  Speaker 3: think the lease is for twenty five years or something
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  Speaker 3: like that off Souse and now they're allowing this fellow
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  Speaker 3: to run around and bang on about three hundred million
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  Speaker 3: dollar stadiums in the CBD.
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  Speaker 1: Well just you know, like I say, I would never
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  Speaker 1: knock anybody who's got good ideas and who comes forward
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  Speaker 1: with different ideas, because I think it's easy for us
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  Speaker 1: all to sort of say, oh no, it's not for this,
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  Speaker 1: that or the other reason. But you know, there are
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  Speaker 1: points that you've made their day, which you know, particularly
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  Speaker 1: with Richardson Park, that I know a lot of those
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  Speaker 1: in the rugby league sector would agree with. You know
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  Speaker 1: that we've let that prime location go.
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  Speaker 3: But everything we hear about these days is you know,
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  Speaker 3: there's no real economic value in any of these things. Said,
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  Speaker 3: I noticed today in the inteen years, we've got Barb
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  Speaker 3: Melandear McCarthy banging on about how there's going to be
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  Speaker 3: no cotton industry in the Northern Territory. Now, that's obviously
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  Speaker 3: an industry that makes money, but we can't have one
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  Speaker 3: in the Northern Territory. Same as we can't have a
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  Speaker 3: dam in the Northern Territory. Same as they tried to
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  Speaker 3: put the bosh on gas in the Northern Territory. Anything
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  Speaker 3: that's seen as an industry and an opportunity is ignored.
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  Speaker 3: And yet.
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  Speaker 2: Well right now day, well, I don't.
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  Speaker 3: Know where you're going to see the big licks of
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  Speaker 3: money coming in, Like I say, they're in a subsidized
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  Speaker 3: place already. And then you have to you know. But
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  Speaker 3: like I said, then you see the university spending four
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  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty million dollars on a campus for international
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  Speaker 3: students in the city.
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  Speaker 1: From Ken vows and he said, I always go to
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  Speaker 1: what are the recurrent costs for a stadium? We always
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  Speaker 1: talk about the cost of building, et cetera, but never
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  Speaker 1: about what the funding for you know, the tens of
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  Speaker 1: millions it's going to run cost to run every year,
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  Speaker 1: which is another good point.
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  Speaker 3: Practically nice sport in the territor that pays for itself.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the netball, that wonderful big stadium that they
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  Speaker 3: have and you've got to love it. It looks great
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  Speaker 3: and it's a whole lot better for the girls to
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  Speaker 3: be playing inside and outside. I can't afford the air
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  Speaker 3: and they can't afford the air conditioning bill times of basketball.
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  Speaker 2: What do you do? Do you just go no sport
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  Speaker 2: for anyone. It's still expensing sport any.
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  Speaker 3: I mean you grew up playing Did you grow up
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  Speaker 3: in an air conditioning stadium?
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  Speaker 2: Depends?
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  Speaker 1: I grew up in Mount Isa Dave so there.
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  Speaker 3: So I grew up in country Queensland. But we all
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  Speaker 3: played sport, didn't we?
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 3: You know, And you played it on bitchamin courts outdoors,
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  Speaker 3: if you played netball, if you played rugby league, you
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  Speaker 3: on a gravel, very little grass.
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  Speaker 5: Hello Katie Wolf and three point sixty online at Mixed
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  Speaker 5: one O four nine dot com.
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  Speaker 4: You.
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  Speaker 1: I am very cognizant that we don't have Damian Hale
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  Speaker 1: this morning to talk about this next topic, but I
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  Speaker 1: think it's important for us to bring it up and
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  Speaker 1: that is the fact that's Anthony Albanezi has been warned
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  Speaker 1: by the head of the New South Wales c of
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  Speaker 1: m e U Mining and Energy Vision to stop developing
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  Speaker 1: labor policies in inner city coffee shops or risk losing
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  Speaker 1: three federal seats in the Hunter Valley at the next election,
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  Speaker 1: an outcome almost certain to relegate it to three more
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  Speaker 1: years of opposition. That is what's been reported in The
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  Speaker 1: Australian this morning. And we know that former Labor Front
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  Speaker 1: bencher Joel Fitzgibbon has also threatened to quit Parliament if
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  Speaker 1: mister Albanezi's agenda did not go further in backing blue
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  Speaker 1: collar workers, opening up a split within the opposition ranks
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  Speaker 1: following Labour's defeat at the weekend by election in the
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  Speaker 1: seat of the Upper Hunter. Now I can almost guess
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  Speaker 1: your response, Dave Maddie head.
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  Speaker 3: Where's Where's Maddie?
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  Speaker 4: I can feel the excitement losing off, Dave. I just
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  Speaker 4: want to know what the poor I love a laty.
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  Speaker 5: What did the unions?
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  Speaker 4: What did do to the unions? Anytime they get their
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  Speaker 4: back up about Labor not supporting them anymore? It's always
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  Speaker 4: the latine drinkers in Capital City. Our union office here
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  Speaker 4: is based in the heart of Darwin, CBD. I live
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  Speaker 4: just around the corner and I see them drinking. They're
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  Speaker 4: lattes in our little inner city offices.
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  Speaker 3: They probably care about as much for workers as they do.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's a reality. If you're not in the
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  Speaker 3: public service, I don't care, but I mean.
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  Speaker 2: To me, I do want to say that.
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  Speaker 1: I actually think Joel Fitzgibbon makes some fairly good points here,
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  Speaker 1: and you cannot forget about the working class at the moment.
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  Speaker 3: I forget that.
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  Speaker 2: I feel so that is that is.
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  Speaker 1: An area at the moment where federally labor does seem
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  Speaker 1: to have lost its way a little bit. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, you know, locally it could be the same too.
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  Speaker 1: You can't forget about I'm being diplomatic because I know
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  Speaker 1: you're but you've got to remember the workers, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you do need to remember your working class Australians.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that, if you like, was formed on.
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  Speaker 3: The back of the workers exact from the trade union
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  Speaker 3: movement back in the days when they had demarkation disputes
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  Speaker 3: and you know, there was national wage cases and all
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  Speaker 3: of that sort of caper and and that's when labor
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  Speaker 3: you know, it became the political arm of the union movement,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, legitimately, I think workers feel that they
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  Speaker 3: should have a stake in the Labor Party, certainly those
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  Speaker 3: who are members of unions. And when you see the
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  Speaker 3: Labor Party going off on this sort of woke frenzy
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  Speaker 3: that they're doing, you really got to wonder. You know
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  Speaker 3: that they sacrifice jobs everywhere like that, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: green New future that they you know, they've they've buddied
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  Speaker 3: up with their pals in the Greens. They don't really
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  Speaker 3: care too much about.
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  Speaker 1: Workers in the industry transitioning. I think you can't just
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  Speaker 1: be going, all right, we're going to shut down every
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  Speaker 1: coal mine.
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  Speaker 2: You've want to actually transition.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I could actually use your brains and sort of
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  Speaker 3: start to say, how can we do our bit to
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  Speaker 3: alleviate climate change and at the same time keep the
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  Speaker 3: economy strong and keep people in jobs, because ultimately, the
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  Speaker 3: biggest threat to the environment is poverty. The biggest the
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  Speaker 3: biggest environmental damage in the world comes where there's poverty,
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  Speaker 3: and the moral people that you can take out of poverty,
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  Speaker 3: the better off we are.
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  Speaker 1: Can I just spin this discussion slightly though, and ask you, Dave,
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  Speaker 1: does Joel fitzgibbny the need to put up or shut up?
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  Speaker 2: At this point?
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  Speaker 3: I think Joel fitzgibbn is really quite a brave person,
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  Speaker 3: you know, not whether you call it brave or not,
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  Speaker 3: but he's basically billing the cat, saying, listen, this is
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  Speaker 3: this is what the Labor Party is supposed to steed
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  Speaker 3: for your turning your backs on us. We're getting wiped
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  Speaker 3: out at elections because of this mad green policy and
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  Speaker 3: it's time to buck up and change and a bit
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  Speaker 3: of respect to people who work in these industries. And
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  Speaker 3: you know the fact his labor got no respect for
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  Speaker 3: people who work in those industries.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care for them all. You're a bit of
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  Speaker 2: a latte sipping city, what do you think about it all?
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  Speaker 2: He's got that younger generation, younger than me.
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  Speaker 4: To kind of go on the more conservative side of
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  Speaker 4: the Labor Party. Mark Lathams the other one that comes
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  Speaker 4: to mind as well. I mean he was.
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  Speaker 1: There's plenty you know, yeah, Martin Ferguson older Mark Latham
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  Speaker 1: is going to be.
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  Speaker 3: Also they say they've gone. I mean the fact was
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  Speaker 3: Latham was very much in support of the world.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, but when he when he was running against John
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  Speaker 1: Howard and shook his hand just the way, I.
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  Speaker 2: Was sorry, you've lost me.
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  Speaker 3: But he was not. He was not a good fit
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  Speaker 3: for the Labor Party. And you know the thing is,
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  Speaker 3: you've got Martin Ferguson, former Resources Minister, the like pretty
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  Speaker 3: well shun by most labor politicians these days.
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  Speaker 1: You think though, you are a younger bloke and you
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  Speaker 1: are obviously like I said, you know, some might say
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  Speaker 1: you're latte sipping in the.
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  Speaker 3: City, yeah, sort of sor him as a late he's
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  Speaker 3: a news here and it's rather beat.
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  Speaker 5: That's all right.
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  Speaker 1: Let talk.
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  Speaker 4: Don't really have an opinion either way. And the given
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  Speaker 4: will say though, is the Liberal Party though, and David
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  Speaker 4: know this, you've been part of the sea. Is the
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  Speaker 4: Prime Minister Scott Morrison or Malcolm Turbull described the Liberal
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  Speaker 4: Party as a broad church within the party, even though
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  Speaker 4: they are a conservative party by nature. You've got people
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  Speaker 4: on the left factions and the right factions. And I
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  Speaker 4: think what's because it's probably become more evident in the
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  Speaker 4: Labor Party Federal Labor over the last five years as
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  Speaker 4: their factions and they're open about the factions. I know
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  Speaker 4: the Liberal Party don't like to say they've got left
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  Speaker 4: and right sides within the party, but.
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  Speaker 3: Wet and dry the left and right, well they got
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  Speaker 3: wets and drives and that look. The thing is the
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  Speaker 3: Liberals have have been tearing themselves to bits over this.
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  Speaker 4: Malcolms examples.
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  Speaker 3: Malcolm's a classic example. You know both Malcolm and Scamo
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  Speaker 3: I think go where the wind blows. They don't have
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  Speaker 3: a particularly strong view. Well Malcolm does have a strong view.
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  Speaker 3: Scotty will go like I say, where the wind blowe.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I just want to read a message that I
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  Speaker 1: got here from Kenny Vowles, and he said, Joel is
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  Speaker 1: on the money Cadie. He had a twenty two percent
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  Speaker 1: swing against him last election and just saw Labour loos
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  Speaker 1: nine percent swing against labor and local state by election.
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  Speaker 1: He made his move last year by resigning from shadow
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  Speaker 1: cabinet on this and he said Dave would have been
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  Speaker 1: the best here for MMA you representative ever.
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  Speaker 3: This morning I got donations through the CFMU income.
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  Speaker 1: Dave Toler and Mattie Hepworth in the studio with us
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  Speaker 1: this morning for the big issues and oh it's just texting.
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  Speaker 3: I love it now.
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  Speaker 2: There has been quite.
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  Speaker 1: A bit of discussion nationally over the last few days
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  Speaker 1: about looking at doing things a bit more innovatively to
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  Speaker 1: try to get people to actually go for their COVID vaccines.
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  Speaker 1: I know that in other countries they're doing different bits
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  Speaker 1: and pieces to try to get people to go and
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  Speaker 1: get vaccinated. In Israel, for example, well they're trying to
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  Speaker 1: reach younger people giving them free drinks apparently.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if they're alcoholic beverages. I don't think so.
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  Speaker 2: But they're doing a few different things.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently in China they're doing a few different things like
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  Speaker 1: rice and something else to try to get people to go.
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  Speaker 2: And get vaccinated. What reckon we need to do in
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  Speaker 2: the territory?
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  Speaker 4: Do it for a six pack of normal?
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  Speaker 3: Oh it would too Ignrman, you.
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  Speaker 2: You to go and get your vaccine with Tomie and.
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  Speaker 3: Hale that you get a vaccine.
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  Speaker 2: He said, he's taking you and you do a live cross.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, we decided this.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: It's not against getting a vaccine. I just don't can't
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: see the urgency. Can't see the point. I don't for
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: the visor one tea. We'll wait and see what happens.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: I think. I think if you wanted to do an
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: in sandy, for most people, you just say you can't
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: get on a plane.
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: That's what it's heading.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: If you sit there and you get you know, you
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: shot in order to get on a plane, I think
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: lining up to do it. I reckon, I can't see
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: the imperative at the moment. Everybody's sitting there thinking, well,
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: it's all a bit of ho hum.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: But like you said, if all of a sudden you
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: couldn't get on a plane somewhere, you certainly would.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: Go and get add flags.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, for those international flights, I think. But anyway,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: while those international boys, so, I think.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: Alan doing his little bit of virtue signaling, just to
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: show that he was really paranoid about the virus.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Alright, we better, we won't let Dame go. He's you know,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Jos going, this is going, don't don't have Maddie. Hepworth
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: lovely to have you both in the studio.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: To be with Maddie. He's so vocal.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I'm.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Oh, well try all right, that is it for the
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: big issues. This morning, you are listening to Mix one
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: O four point nine three sixty