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INTERVIEW: Tobe Nwigwe & Fat Nwigwe on Black Identity, Marriage & Their Creative Mission · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Hold up. Every day I wake up.
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  Speaker 2: Wake your ass up.
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  Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club. Y'all finished or y'all done? We're out
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  Speaker 1: here too. Let y'all guess who that is. Just look around.
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  Speaker 2: Grow up, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit, y'all.
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  Speaker 3: He cracks himself up.
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  Speaker 4: A little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Man, that's so crazy, man.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, man.
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  Speaker 2: We got to stop talking.
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  Speaker 1: I thought the mics was down.
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  Speaker 2: They can hear us in the room.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, man. It's incredible. How do you.
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  Speaker 2: Pronounce the last name?
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  Speaker 1: Weegway. And Weegway. Yep. Weegway. There it is. For the
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  Speaker 1: end of silence. There it is. Weegway. 100%. All right.
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  Speaker 2: You ready? Yes, it's the world's most dangerous morning show,
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  Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 5: DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, Charlamagne Tha God, Lauren LaRosa is
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  Speaker 5: here as well. Envy's not in today, but we have
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  Speaker 5: some very special guests, man.
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  Speaker 1: Toby and Fat Wigwe. Come on in the building for
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  Speaker 1: the first time.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 1: How y'all doing, man?
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  Speaker 6: Morning.
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  Speaker 2: I was trying to... Figure out if y'all been here before.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you have. Never in life. Never in life.
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  Speaker 3: That's crazy. Yes, I'm so happy to see y'all, man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on. I'm really happy to see you.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I was skeptical about coming.
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  Speaker 6: Really?
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  Speaker 4: Why?
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  Speaker 7: Because of Charlamagne?
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  Speaker 1: Come on, you know?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I knew it wasn't me. Why couldn't it be? No, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you're way more reserved now. These last
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  Speaker 1: couple years, you're like, You know what I'm saying? As
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  Speaker 1: outgoing as you are, as big as you fucking are,
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  Speaker 1: as much as you don't bite your tongue, what is
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  Speaker 1: he talking about?
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  Speaker 4: That's what he said.
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  Speaker 1: What is he talking about?
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  Speaker 4: That's exactly what he's talking about.
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  Speaker 6: 100%.
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  Speaker 4: Because he's too much.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lie.
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  Speaker 4: It's a lie.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: If I can.
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  Speaker 3: It's all right.
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  Speaker 8: If there's anything you need to get off your chest
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  Speaker 8: at him, all right.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no. Nothing personal. Yeah, it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: nothing personal.
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  Speaker 3: We would love to see it.
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  Speaker 7: We've been here sparring all morning.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. We've been having a good time in here, man.
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  Speaker 1: It's a good old black ass time. Come on.
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  Speaker 2: How y'all feeling this morning?
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  Speaker 1: I'm feeling incredible, bro. Yeah, you know, yeah. The project
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  Speaker 1: just came out for the first time.
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  Speaker 2: The Bridge?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I said for the first time, yeah. It's released. Why
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  Speaker 1: did y'all call the album The Bridge?
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  Speaker 2: Like, what are you trying to bridge?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, here and home. Yeah, niggas and ninjas. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: the duality that I grew up in for the... the
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  Speaker 1: whole of my life. And for so long, I felt
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  Speaker 1: like I had to, like, choose between the two. And
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  Speaker 1: I realized, like, oh, nigga, that's your superpower. You can
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  Speaker 1: speak to both forms of the duality genuinely, and niggas
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  Speaker 1: can receive it a specific way.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like for the last several years, they've been
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  Speaker 5: telling us that there has to be a connection between
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  Speaker 5: black Americans.
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  Speaker 1: And the motherland.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I try to go to the motherland at
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  Speaker 2: least once a year.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, where you go?
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  Speaker 2: Man, I done been to.
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  Speaker 1: Ghana, of course.
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  Speaker 5: I've been to Zanzibar, Tanzania, Cape Town, Johannesburg.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for you to say Nigeria. I want to.
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  Speaker 2: I've been supposed to go to Nigeria for so long.
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  Speaker 1: Salute to my girl, Cuppy, man.
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  Speaker 2: Cuppy been wanting me to come to Nigeria for so long.
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  Speaker 2: I just haven't gotten over there yet.
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  Speaker 1: Nah, it's cool. It's cool. Yeah, it's waiting for you.
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  Speaker 1: It's a little different than all the other places that
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  Speaker 1: you named. It's like this city times a thousand.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, for real.
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  Speaker 4: So if you love it here... Oh, bro.
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  Speaker 1: We love it here.
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  Speaker 5: What do y'all think the disconnect is, though?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Just time, effort, and energy. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like if niggas sit down, it's way more similarities. We
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  Speaker 1: the same everywhere. We gonna be the funniest. We gonna
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  Speaker 1: be the most entertaining. We gonna have all the dance moves.
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  Speaker 1: We gonna do everything. We gonna provide the flavor for
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  Speaker 1: wherever we at on the planet.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: What makes this album different from all y'all's?
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  Speaker 1: It's the first time I really got rooted in, I
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  Speaker 1: really tried to do something rooted in my foundational sounds,
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  Speaker 1: like all the stuff I grew up listening to, the Fela,
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  Speaker 1: the Chifocita, all of the high life and Afrobeats that
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  Speaker 1: I grew up on, and I fused it with everything that,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I learned on the southwest
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  Speaker 1: side of Houston, Texas.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And why now, like, for you to like really, really
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  Speaker 3: get Vulnerable enough to show you who you really are.
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  Speaker 1: I just feel like it was the natural evolution of
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  Speaker 1: everything that I was doing. Yeah, yeah. When I first started,
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  Speaker 1: I was real trash.
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  Speaker 8: It's crazy because just looking at your aesthetic and hearing
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  Speaker 8: you now, it felt like it was like.
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  Speaker 3: Born into you.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 7: People have always been creative.
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  Speaker 3: And always had it. No, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: And I left it up. So if you go back
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  Speaker 1: to like the first couple of videos I put on YouTube, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to see a difference. That had to be
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  Speaker 1: like a decade ago then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. About that.
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  Speaker 1: But it's good because some people think that it's always
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  Speaker 1: been like this and always... Had this aesthetic and vision
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  Speaker 1: and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 6: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: When I first started, I just wanted to say something
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  Speaker 1: when I said something. And I thought it was sweet
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  Speaker 1: at the time. But, yeah, you go back and look
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  Speaker 1: at it. It's doo-doo.
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  Speaker 3: Well, what got you to this point, though? You know,
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  Speaker 3: coming from doo-doo.
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  Speaker 1: Where you at?
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  Speaker 4: What got you to this point?
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  Speaker 1: Man, I applied the same... Like, principles that I had
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  Speaker 1: trying to make it to the league. Yeah, consistency, discipline, perseverance,
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  Speaker 1: and then I'm from the streets. So let me not
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  Speaker 1: say the streets because, nigga, I was outside and ready
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  Speaker 1: to get active, but, nigga, I had parents. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: from the hood. So I got deductive reasoning. I could
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  Speaker 1: get into a situation in an environment, look around, and
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  Speaker 1: figure out what the hell is going on. And even
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  Speaker 1: though I didn't have no foreknowledge of how to maneuver
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  Speaker 1: in this industry, I paid attention to the stuff that
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  Speaker 1: I thought was tight, and I paid attention to what
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  Speaker 1: all was going on, and I figured out how to
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  Speaker 1: make it my own. Yeah, discernment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%.
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  Speaker 5: I want to ask y'all, as a married couple, is
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  Speaker 5: there something in your own relationship that y'all had to
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  Speaker 5: bridge before y'all could even make a project like this?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, bodies.
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  Speaker 6: I think we've done enough of that.
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  Speaker 8: Earlier charlamagne said when you married and you got more
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  Speaker 8: than four kids you don't hear nothing about no more
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  Speaker 8: kids no.
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  Speaker 5: Tell the whole story they were saying how when you
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  Speaker 5: young you know a guy what's been your age like
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  Speaker 5: i want to put a baby in Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Leave hell for that.
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  Speaker 1: Come on, that gets you going.
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  Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 4: Come on.
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  Speaker 5: Come on.
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  Speaker 1: That gets you going. It did back in the day.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's shaking me now.
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  Speaker 5: But then once you're a woman that had a few,
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  Speaker 5: you don't want to hear that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, 100%. Yeah, stop talking to me like that. Yeah, 100%.
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  Speaker 3: I do want to know, how did y'all meet? I
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  Speaker 3: love y'all so much, how y'all just compliment each other,
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  Speaker 3: how y'all pull into each other, even in the music,
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  Speaker 3: y'all pull into each other. Girl, you don't play about
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  Speaker 3: your neck, you understand? And I love that. How did
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  Speaker 3: y'all meet?
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  Speaker 6: We met, I had just moved to Houston, and I
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  Speaker 6: left Michigan, and I was raised in church, you know,
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  Speaker 6: everything I knew was church, and when I went to Houston,
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  Speaker 6: I was like, I'm on sabbatical.
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  Speaker 4: I'm about to live a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And so, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And so after a while, I was like, well, dang,
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  Speaker 4: I feel bad. Let me go find a church home.
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  Speaker 4: And I went.
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  Speaker 1: What was you doing? How much sitting was you doing?
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  Speaker 8: It wasn't even nothing crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Was you in a strip club?
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  Speaker 7: Was you at a hookah bar?
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't even in a strip club.
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  Speaker 6: It was just me and my four girls and every
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  Speaker 6: night after work we would be in a happy hour.
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  Speaker 4: We'd be in the bars, the clubs. We was just partying.
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  Speaker 4: You was just outside.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I was just, I was, like, convicted. So I was like,
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  Speaker 4: let me go find a church home.
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  Speaker 6: And the first church I went to to go visit,
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  Speaker 6: I saw him in there volunteering for the young adult.
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  Speaker 7: You was like, I'm staying.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Because I didn't grow up, well, I grew up
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  Speaker 1: in a white church, so, you know, that's not real. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he grew up in a Catholic church. Really? Yeah, it'd
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  Speaker 1: be like a funeral every time you go there. So
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  Speaker 1: I ain't really had the same type of upbringing. So
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  Speaker 1: I was outside already.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Young. Getting to it.
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  Speaker 2: Active.
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  Speaker 1: So by the time I had graduated and then my
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  Speaker 1: dream failed, I was like, you know what? God, let
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  Speaker 1: me see what you're talking about. My stuff didn't fell off. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she saw me getting active. And then you can keep going.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And then, like, he ended up inviting us. We saw
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  Speaker 6: him at, like, a young adult function at, like, nighttime.
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  Speaker 6: And then he invited us out to his nonprofit meeting, like,
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  Speaker 6: the next day or something like that. And we went
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  Speaker 6: to the nonprofit. And then I eventually just started getting involved.
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  Speaker 6: and helping, and we became friends, really good friends, and
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  Speaker 6: then our relationship evolved from there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good.
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  Speaker 1: That's a way to shorten it up.
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  Speaker 7: I know, right?
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  Speaker 6: There's a lot of intricate things in there, but that's
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  Speaker 6: the core thing.
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  Speaker 3: And then y'all style, y'all aesthetic. Has that always been
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  Speaker 3: like that? Who put who on with the style?
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  Speaker 1: Come on, talk to the people.
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  Speaker 2: I figured it came from him.
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  Speaker 3: He's always been intentional about Like what you wear, you
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean? And how you represent yourself. Where
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  Speaker 3: did that come from?
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  Speaker 1: I used to be tacky and niggas was frying me.
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  Speaker 1: So I had to get, yeah, yeah, you got to
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  Speaker 1: get it together. You don't want to get fried. So
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  Speaker 1: I got it together. And I just, I don't really like,
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  Speaker 1: I like just doing it for us and our family
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  Speaker 1: and like our close friends. But I don't really like
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  Speaker 1: designing for the masses like that. Dang, I shouldn't say that.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't think that's true.
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  Speaker 6: He likes to design for a niche type of people.
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  Speaker 6: People that understand what he's trying to do. Not for
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  Speaker 6: the general masses, but that's what he wants.
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  Speaker 4: A rare niche target.
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  Speaker 5: Y'all both got y'all own distinct identity, though.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever worried, Toby, that people.
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  Speaker 5: See Phat as an extension of your vision instead of
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  Speaker 5: recognizing she got her own?
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  Speaker 1: No, I'll be honest with you. I, I, think, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's cool that she an extension of my vision
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  Speaker 1: and it's still, and it's still her own. Yeah. Because
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  Speaker 1: she represents something to the culture completely different than, than
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  Speaker 1: what I represent. But United, it's a, it's a whole
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  Speaker 1: different force.
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  Speaker 7: I was listening to the project and, um, A la,
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  Speaker 7: a la.
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  Speaker 1: Luwak Bars.
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  Speaker 7: That song, it's so powerful. Like, it's like you guys separately,
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  Speaker 7: but you guys together.
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  Speaker 8: But when you come in on it, I'm like, wow,
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  Speaker 8: the protection that you lay over your husband and your.
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  Speaker 7: Family, just out in your words, I felt it. I'm like,
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  Speaker 7: That is like black love for real.
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  Speaker 8: Like, don't play with her about nothing she speaks positivity over.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Say it, Lauren. It made you feel good, right?
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  Speaker 1: Y'all know what I mean.
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  Speaker 7: Y'all know what I mean, right?
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't. God is the greatest.
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  Speaker 1: God is greater.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all know you're.
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  Speaker 1: Getting a little nervous. You feel that way.
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  Speaker 3: No, because she didn't want to mess it up when
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  Speaker 3: she was reading it.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't want to mess it up.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, you yell something the wrong way, you
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  Speaker 4: might stir up something.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not 100% trying to get you crazy. Yes. Okay.
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  Speaker 7: They scared in the car this morning. This song feel
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  Speaker 7: like that, though.
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  Speaker 8: I listened to that a couple times because I'm like,
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  Speaker 8: this is like, I want this energy over my life,
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  Speaker 8: over my family.
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  Speaker 3: Over my relationship.
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  Speaker 1: Girl, you are.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 8: And you know how you hear stories of a man
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  Speaker 8: and a woman that get together and the men talk
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  Speaker 8: about having a wife and how that's like the greatest
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  Speaker 8: completion of his life?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: And then you guys have children. I felt that too
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  Speaker 8: through the words. Like, you are the sauce.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 1: No, no. You go eat.
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  Speaker 4: I was just saying that's what I was trying to
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  Speaker 4: do in the song. That's the sentiments. Like, what I
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  Speaker 4: got going on. My life, my heart, everything. Like, that's
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  Speaker 4: what it is.
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  Speaker 3: What is the process of creation? Like, how y'all create this? Like,
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  Speaker 3: what do y'all do when y'all go in a studio?
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  Speaker 3: Is it like, does something come to you, and then
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  Speaker 3: it telepathically gets to him? Or like, how do y'all
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  Speaker 3: make this magic?
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  Speaker 4: I'll let you talk.
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  Speaker 6: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Well, first, we smash. That's right. That's not what happened.
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  Speaker 1: I take it back. I try to let you get
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  Speaker 1: it off. The creative process. I usually got a vision
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  Speaker 1: for my stuff and how I see it playing out.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. All this stuff that Fat
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  Speaker 1: is doing with me, this is all like a luxury or.
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  Speaker 3: Extra.
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  Speaker 1: Fat really only is concerned with, I would say, three
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  Speaker 1: or four things in life. If I'm lying, then say something.
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  Speaker 1: She care about me. She care about God, her children.
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  Speaker 4: That was supposed to be opposite. You told me to
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  Speaker 4: say something.
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  Speaker 1: There it is. Her children, her immediate family, and then food.
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  Speaker 3: And food. Is that where you got fat from?
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  Speaker 1: Actually, no.
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  Speaker 4: That was like one of them pet names. You know
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  Speaker 4: how you call somebody big head?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: He called me fat head when we first met.
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  Speaker 1: She had like the little bowl cut.
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  Speaker 4: I had a pixie. He called it bowl cut.
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  Speaker 1: I had a pixie cut.
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  Speaker 2: I had a pixie cut.
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  Speaker 4: And then he thought my head looked big. It just
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  Speaker 4: got me tired.
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  Speaker 1: Man, they just get tired of saying two syllables.
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  Speaker 4: My name ain't Fatima or nothing.
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  Speaker 2: People be calling me, I'm Fatima.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not Fatima. They really be thinking that. Somebody
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  Speaker 1: came up to me yesterday and said, I love Fatima.
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  Speaker 1: I said, oh, that's good.
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  Speaker 3: It's not. It's Martika, right?
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly right.
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  Speaker 3: Come on, y'all.
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  Speaker 1: I told you I got my family.
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  Speaker 3: And also, congratulations on Queen. Baby, I bumped that.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: And then even the mix with Tiara, the one that
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: she made.
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: Did she go off?
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she went off. And I love what you said.
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: You was like, that's the only time you're going to
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: see me with a wet-ass nigga. I love bars.
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 13:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, she was cracking up when I sent her that.
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: She was like, it was good. That was fire. The
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: video was fire. Everything, the visual.
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: How y'all sampled the Coming to America.
• 14:01
  Speaker 9: Thank you.
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: And mind you, it's a few joints on the album,
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: on this album, The Bridge, where I felt like it's
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: very Coming to America from Motherland. You know what I mean?
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: Where you're introducing... All of that, that Nigerian. We really,
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: really hearing that in the music and it's deeply rooted.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, indeed.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
• 14:19
  Speaker 5: What's something fat about Toby that makes him a great
• 14:23
  Speaker 5: creative partner but can make him difficult to be married to?
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's good.
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: Be married to.
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: That's good.
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: Oh, I don't want to say, I wouldn't say.
• 14:30
  Speaker 6: Be married to, but like, it's hard sometimes to like,
• 14:35
  Speaker 6: to work with him in the studio because he got
• 14:37
  Speaker 6: that football background.
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: And boy, that aggression be coming out sometimes. And I
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: be like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. We married.
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: We married.
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: Talks off.
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: Talk nice.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: Sweeten that up.
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: Because, yeah, you're not going to get the results you want.
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: He's talking to me like that.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: That's interesting. He's gotten a lot better.
• 14:55
  Speaker 5: That's interesting because, like, you're not doing that because you're
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: trying to tear her down.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: That's just your way of motivation.
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: Exactly right.
• 15:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: But everybody probably need to be motivated differently.
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: Exactly right.
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: But I had to evolve into that. I used to
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: talk to her like, Because, you know, I was the
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: captain of the football team.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: So you got to talk to niggas. Yeah.
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: So I had that like, ah, ah. And it got
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: to the point, well, Fat ain't one of them type
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: of people. If you get the ah, ah, she'll be like,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: whatever you want to try to do, you can just
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: do that yourself.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: She won't scream back. She won't rah-rah with you at all.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: She'll just let you have it all.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Everything that you're trying to create on this plate that
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: you can eat that. So I had to learn like,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: all right, cool. If I'm trying to get to the
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: bottom line or get the results, okay, I got to
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: switch my approach. And I've never had, you never have
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: to do that in football. It's like, if you ain't
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: receiving it the way the captain or coach is saying,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you got to get the hell out
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: of here. It's like, but yeah, that can't happen in
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: marriage or relationships. So I had to like, maybe, perhaps, possibly.
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: I had to give some of those and then I
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: had to learn, like, all right, cool. Just switch your
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: approach and you can get the same type of results.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: You can get the highest level results with that.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: But does that challenge you creatively?
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: Like, I mean, clearly she's an incredible wife, but is
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: that something that challenges you creatively?
• 16:19
  Speaker 7: 100%.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Bro, it stretched me. But it stretched me just like
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: my directness and aggression stretched her. So it's like we
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: got to find the balance when we trying to, like,
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: do something like, that we feel like we call, like,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: do the work. We're trying to do this stuff and
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: get it done and have it affect people like it
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: need to affect people. And we both have to stretch
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: in different ways and it be... a really good process. No,
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: it was a little tough in the beginning.
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we found our way though. We found our way
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: and it's been working really.
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: Good so far.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Should marriage always come before the mission?
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: Always.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was that before we was, yeah.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Trying to. Don't let your mission affect your cheeks.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Don't ever in life.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Because this is the thing.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: All these niggas will leave you alone. And they're waiting
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: on a reason to leave you alone.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Don't ever in your life for the cause.
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: Waiting on a reason to say something, tearing down and
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: all that stuff.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: That's why I respect. Listen, no, I'm honest, bro. I
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: respect all of our great leaders of the past and
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: how they went out for the cause and for the mission.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I'm like, listen to me. I've already decided in my
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: life what I live for and die for. I'm with
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: my nigga family. I'm with my family. And if it
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: come down to it, and if they like, hey, hey, hey,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: we killing everybody who out here doing too much. I'm like, oh, yeah.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: You're going to have to kill me around them then
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: because I'm not doing too much for you. I'll do
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: too much for these niggas only. That's it. Because I know, yeah,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: as much as I do, as much as I have
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: dedicated my cause to To niggas. To the culture. It's like,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: I know how y'all niggas... Y'all niggas been trying to
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: fry Keith Lee! Yeah. Y'all done tried to fry tab.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: For eating some food.
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And being nice to people.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: And all he knew was, God is the greatest. I
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: love y'all. I give y'all all my money. I try
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: to build your business. If y'all going to do it
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: to him, y'all can thank y'all. As long as you
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: know that. I try to tell y'all. I say that
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: all the time.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Man, I'll kill you.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: You know what Minister Farrakhan says?
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know what Minister Louis Farrakhan says.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: You have to.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Love black people more than they hate themselves.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Ooh.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I ain't never heard that, but I agree. I know
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: that's not harsh, but it's just true. Come on, because
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: a nigga, boy, they'll try to get you. So I'm
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: just like, I'm going to dedicate my art, everything I
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: create is for the betterment of the culture and trying
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: to push the culture forward. But if y'all think I'm
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: finna die, well, hell no.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Don't try me.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: That's right. We need a leader, Tobar. You better find
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: another name. It doesn't matter what you're doing. Where my
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: nigga gonna be wearing the hat and stuff?
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: With the chains and the... Go ahead, get that nigga.
• 19:11
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: How was it working with Busta Rhymes?
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, incredible.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: It's incredible. Nah, it's incredible working with Busta. You know
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: how Busta is. Busta gonna show the most love. He
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: gonna have the most incredible personality and approach to all
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: this stuff. I love Busta.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: The two greatest... rap performers ever in life to me
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: and I ain't seen one of them I've only experienced
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: it on video but it's Busta Rhymes I've seen that
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: nigga live and then MC Hammer yeah and I feel
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: like people don't be giving MC Hammer the respect that
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: he deserves. I feel like that's one of the greatest
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: rap performers ever. Performers in general.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: But there's no rapper that's getting on stage and able
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: to do what MC Hammer do.
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: Nah, there's not too many rappers who could even dance
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: like him.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: And the ones that did, didn't have.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: the huge success Hammer did to have those type of productions.
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: Because I'll put Big Daddy Kane in that mix. I'll
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: put Heavy D in that mix. They just didn't have
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: the success Hammer had.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He had an action figure. Yeah.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Breakaway Pass. He had.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: People don't want to talk about this. It was a
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: little slight beef with Michael Jackson.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Oh my God, no.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Do you remember that in the video? And at the
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: end of the video, he had the fake mic in
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the video?
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I remember he came out on that.
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's another one of them shows he challenged Michael
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: Jackson to.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: A dance off.
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: Oh, no.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: I don't remember.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: It wasn't even people. The only other person that had
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: beef with Mike like that, that was supposedly Prince.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Prince, yeah.
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Hammer, but I was like, yeah, people don't talk about,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: it should have been a whole bunch of shows dedicated
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: to MC Hammer.
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: People should study Hammer because I remember when people hated Hammer.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Everybody forgets that. Hip hop hated Hammer.
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: He had all the commercial success in the world, was
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: selling all the records, but none of the real hip
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: hop guys thought he was the real deal.
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: We were just having this debate the other day.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: Glasses Malone and Malcolm Spellman that did the drop. It
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: was some revisionist history going on with Hammer.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Come on. They're acting like everybody.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Loved Hammer from the beginning.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: No.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no. They thought Hammer wasn't hip-hop.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: The Audacious.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: Really?
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Didn't even know that.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: So what did... Y'all been together for a long... How
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: many years y'all been married?
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Nine this year.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Nine years. You come from Houston, the streets, you know
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: what I mean? And what did she teach you about
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: yourself that you needed to know? You know what I mean?
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: That you didn't know before, you know, you... Not when
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: you met her?
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no. All of it. All
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I got you.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I got you. She taught me that the stuff that
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: you think that you want, it ain't what you need.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I got everything that you need can be found in
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: something that you have no concept of. I was so
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: locked in on the type of person that I wanted
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: to be with, and I had it like, This is
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: the thing, though. When you get your heart broke in
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: real life, if you ever in love with somebody and
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: you've been through heartbreak, that stuff really can devastate. There's
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: so many niggas in life right now that had their
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: heart broke in middle school, and them niggas still ain't
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: been able to bounce back.
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: They don't talk about it. They act like it didn't happen.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: And they be 40 and 50 still suffering from, oh, girl,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: they did them dirty in middle school, and they just
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: ain't learned how to process that. So when you really
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: in love with somebody and then you have your heart broke,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: That sends you to a place where you don't want
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: to experience that no more. Right? So I had, in
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: my mind, built up these walls and all this other
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: type of stuff for this specific type of person so
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: this can't never happen to me again. When I met Fat,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: it wasn't even until I was ready that I did
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the proposal tour that I really realized what the hell
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: was happening. Oh, wow. No, no, listen, listen. I'm dead serious.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: When I... Fat, why you laughing? That's terrible, bro. I'm sorry,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: go ahead. I'm over here trying to get my heart, bro.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: She's like, this motherfucker. I said, bro!
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Why you say it like that? Like, you was like,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: you don't even know if you like me or something
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: like that.
• 23:12
  Speaker 6: No, no, no.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Come on, I'm on the zone.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I understand.
• 23:18
  Speaker 7: I understand what you're saying.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I understand what he meant, too, though. He was like
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: in a full state. It's like surreal. Yeah.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay.
• 23:25
  Speaker 8: As a man, I understood your man way of explaining
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: what you meant.
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: Cool.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: But I understood what she was saying. It didn't come
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: out right because I thought I was out the house.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: The way I was perceived. Come on. But go ahead.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: You just go.
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: But now we know it wasn't like that.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: No, that's what it sounded like? Kind of.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: That's not what I meant.
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: Hell no.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: For the people that's looking for something.
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I thought about.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: Because I got it right away.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: It just picked up.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Cool, cool, cool. All right, so.
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: Got you.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: You was high, and you proposed. No, no, no, I
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: wasn't high. So as the proposal is happening, because I'm
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: real good in front of people. I got to give
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: the gab. I know I got the juice to get
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: up there and make niggas giggle, laugh, whatever, be entertained,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: all that type of stuff. So I'm like, when I
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: do this, because the love that I have for Phat
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: was a very sober love. It wasn't like a euphoric
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: butterflies in your tummy type. I wasn't on that. I
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: was on some, like, I know my So I'm, we finna,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: we finna lock in. So I thought I was going
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: to get up in front of people and it was
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: going to be smooth. As I started doing the rigmarole,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I was like, it hit me all at one time.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh snap. I am about to give this
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: nigga the opportunity to break my heart again. And I'm
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: okay with that.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: If she do.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: And it was like, and it started, nigga, taking over
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: my brain. I couldn't breathe, nigga. I was like, oh,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I love you that much that the pain, all the, nigga,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: you gotta understand, when I had my heart broke, I
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: couldn't eat for two weeks and I ain't know nothing
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: about fasting. Nigga, I wasn't hungry. I believe it. No,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: that's real pain.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: I believe it.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: So I was like, nigga, I was like, dang, you
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: love her that much that you gonna give her the
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: opportunity to do it again and if she do, it's like,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: all right, cool. If it happens with you, I'm okay
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: with it. Mm-hmm. And it was like, oh, brother. So
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: my words started, I was like, I said, dang. It
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: took my whole vocal. Yeah, so yeah.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: You put it on in here.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Come on. You see how he told her?
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: I got that.
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: He started crying.
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: She was in there like, get your words together.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: What were you thinking in that moment, Faye?
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Um.
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: So he planned it really, really, really smooth because we
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: was at a conference, like a couples conference type thing.
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: And I thought we were going to be up talking
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: about our relationship and stuff like that. And so they
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: pulled me up to the front and he started going
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: through the things. And I had realized midway through or
• 26:01
  Speaker 6: something that I saw a picture of my family on
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: the screen.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: He had a slideshow going too.
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: I ain't never seen that picture before. And then that's
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: when it started hitting me. Oh, he's proposing to me.
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: And then I was completely overwhelmed. I had never seen
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: him cry like that in front of me.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: So I'm wiping his tears. I'm crying. I'm trying to
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: hold it together. But it was like a dream.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Beautiful moment.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: It's interesting, Toby. Your music is rooted in faith, family,
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: and discipline. Do you ever feel like the image you
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: created doesn't give you permission to be human?
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: No.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I really don't. Because before
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I started any of this, by the grace of God,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I know exactly who I am.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I got into the music real late and I didn't
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: even get good until even later on. But yeah, so
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I just, I try to paint the picture of exactly
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: what it is that I want people to receive from us,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: but in the most honest way that I can so
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: that when you see me out in in the street
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: or anything, I don't got to put on. I could
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: just be myself and you could just receive it however
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: you receive it.
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: The reason I ask is because that was such a
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: vulnerable moment that you, I don't know if you were
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: ready for when you went up there and proposed to her.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: I thought I was.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I thought, hey, listen, I thought it was going to
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: be smooth sailing until I started realizing the reality of
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: the situation and just how heavy, just serious it was.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: It's just a very serious thing. Like, people really, like,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: sometimes take it a little too lightly, but it's a
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: very serious thing when you can connect with somebody completely. Yeah,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: it's a very, very serious thing.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: I just like when real emotion takes over. Yeah.
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: You know, you got something planned in your head, so
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: it is... Sort of performance based, right?
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: But then you get up there and you're like, oh,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I can't perform.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The whole performance gone. You get what you get.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I thought I was going to be smooth though. Yeah.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: That was terrible.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: But that's how you were vulnerable in front of her.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: And that was amazing. What did he, I asked him
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: this question, what did he teach you about yourself?
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Um.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Oh, I ain't going to lie.
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: What?
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Did I even answer that question?
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: No, you did.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: You did.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: No, you did.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: You did. I was like, okay.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: No, you did.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: You answered it.
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: Okay, so I think mine is actually kind of clear.
• 28:19
  Speaker 6: I'll be concise because he was.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Like a little off.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Sorry, sorry, sorry.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: It's okay.
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: So I grew up, my mom is a single mom
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: of six, right? And so she did everything she could
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: to raise us properly.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: I had a great childhood. We was poor.
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: We was doing all these things, but we never knew it.
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: You know, but I'm just saying, we never knew it.
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: She would just make it so we still had.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Made the best out of what she had. You know
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: what I mean?
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: She spread herself thin, but she would always tell me
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: and encourage me in everything that I did because I
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: was just talented in so many different areas. And so
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: I grew up understanding that I was very talented. I
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: literally can... do or figure out anything that I try
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: to do. Um, it's like just a God giving, uh, ability.
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: And so I met Toby. He was like, yeah, like
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: you are completely like fully talented.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: Like I could draw, paint your face exactly how you look.
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: Like I, I, I can do, I can figure out
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: singing and rapping. Like I can just do stuff. Right.
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: And so what he taught me was, yeah, you talented.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: Like, beyond measure, right?
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: But that talent don't matter unless you put hard work
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: with it. And I didn't have that piece. I didn't
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: have the hard work piece. Like I was just kind
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: of like floating. if I did something and for some
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: reason it didn't come like natural to me I'd be
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: like alright whatever You know, I tried something else.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow, okay.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: Because, like, I was just always good at stuff, right?
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: And so he taught me, like, you gotta, like, actually
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: put in, like, the work equity behind what you're doing
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: in order for it to, like, be great.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: But that's in there specifically.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: That's important, too.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: You making it seem like you ain't work hard at all.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: No, I did, but that was in the way that
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: I was taught, like, from my mom, right? Because we grinding. Like,
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: I gotta, I'm about to make it. Like, I'm about
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: to go out there.
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: I got to Houston with 70-something dollars in my pocket. Like,
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: I'm walking up down the street asking people, is they hiring?
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: I take the buzz down to the gallery and get
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: a job within a week. I'm grinding. I'm making it happen.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: That's the hard work I knew because that's the hard
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: work I saw from my mom.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Michigan.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: But towards my actual talents.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: Towards my actual talents that's what he taught me like
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: you it's good that you are talented but in order
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: for it to like actually grow and become something you
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: have to work go hard behind.
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: It that's a good message though because I think sometimes
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: when you are a kid that grows up in a
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: survival mode even if it's in love you separate the
• 30:48
  Speaker 8: dreaming and the talent and the creative with like here's
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: what I gotta do in real life to get by
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: and sometimes those two don't ever come back together because
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: you don't have the opportunity to.
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: That's exactly what it was like I was fine like
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: working like Getting, you know, taking the bus to and
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: from work, like, just, you know, grinding it out, trying
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: to get the next promotion, the next.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: Promotion, to, like, pay all these bills, you know what
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: I'm saying? Like, I was good doing all of that.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:10
  Speaker 6: But then I met him, and he was going that route,
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: and I was like, oh, this is different.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I can do something.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: Ain't no safety net, nigga.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: Different, huh?
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Y'all say there ain't no safety net over here. You're
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: going to have to put some, yeah.
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: We can die. Yeah, that's what he's talking about. Y'all
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: independent too, right?
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: 100%.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Lord have mercy.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Love it. Love it.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Is there a ceiling to being independent that people don't
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: talk about enough?
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Hell yeah, it's a ceiling. If you don't get the... No, I'm...
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I pay for everything my guys do.
• 31:42
  Speaker 5: Damn right.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Hell yes, Lucilla.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Nah, see, I think it's, yeah, yeah, it's different now. Oh,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: hell yes, Lucilla, if you don't get the right team,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: you want to die?
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: You want to die? Because people used to be like, man,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: would you encourage everybody to be independent? I'm like, hell no,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't ever encourage, people would die if they had
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: to go through what I, because you think it's about
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: talent and all this other stuff. Bro, this don't got
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with no talent. The, the, Somebody asked me,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: do you write every day? I said, nigga, you think
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I got time to write every day? And I'm doing
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: the whole shit? Hell no. And I got five kids
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: and a wife. I'll be on the toilet. If I
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: could get something in the shower, I think it's all right.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I got stuff to do every day. But it's like,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: the majority of people, it's like, if you got a talent,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: if you got a gift, and you don't have the
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: capacity to really do all the extra stuff.
• 32:37
  Speaker 9: The reg, the design, the choreograph, all this extra stuff
• 32:44
  Speaker 9: that come with it, then you should go get a label.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: You should get a team to like, yeah, but because
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I had no foreknowledge of how this industry worked, and
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I'm just not a lazy person or an excuse maker
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: within myself.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to figure it out.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Bruh.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: And then the people who, like, see, I got with E.T.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: and C.J. C.J. E., right-hand man. E.T. is the number
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: one motivational speaker. These niggas ain't know nothing about no
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: music industry or making music and was like, yeah, we don't.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: We know about being entrepreneurs, though, so figure it out.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I used to come to him and be like, man, bruh,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: buddy who said he was going to help me do
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: a video, he was like, man, he ain't got the
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: camera today, and da-da-da-da-da. C told me at one point
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: in time, hey, don't call me until you did something
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: that you said you was going to do. I'm just like,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: my nigga, you don't even know what to do in
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: this situation. He was like, yeah, but I didn't make
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: no excuses, and I figured it out. And I had
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: to learn to fix a plane while flying, but I
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: would not I would not suggest that everybody try to
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: do it like that because, yeah, we anomalies. This is
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: an anomaly. It's not supposed to go like that. It's
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: not supposed to go like you never had an acting
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: thing ever in life and then Transformers call you to
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: do a blockbuster film because the director whose best friend
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: had just died before they started shooting the movie was
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: a huge, his best friend was a huge fan of mine.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: And there was a character in the movie that resembled
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: his best friend that he wanted me to play specifically.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: It's like, bro, that don't happen. That's not how it works.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: People have to like do a whole bunch of acting stuff.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: It's like, so there's so many things that have happened
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: that are just, that are anomalies. And like, we've had
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: to work real hard, but a lot of it is,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: we've had a lot of luck, a lot of working hard,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: a lot of execution, a lot of everything.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: And it shows, man. I'll never forget. I mean, I
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: hosted the Hulu package at Essence Fest like a few
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: years back. And I remember y'all, what is it called?
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: The Superdome? I performed there. Y'all had so many watery faces.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: And I'm talking about people were crying, including me. Y'all
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: had the stadium just like. You know, and shambles were
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: like giving glory. Y'all were in all white. Y'all performed.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: I think y'all even had y'all babies on stage. One
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: of the kids or like two of the kids. Man,
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: and y'all whole set, it was so powerful.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: A lot of hot balls.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I'm serious.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: I had two favorite exes from that night. It was
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: them and Lauryn Hill. Y'all sent it up in there.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: I love y'all, man. Y'all can tell I'm fans. I
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: don't care.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: It's been real love over some years, though. We just
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: ain't never got to connect in person.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: For sure.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: How was your experience at Essence Fest?
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: It was great. It was great. It was so many
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: moving parts to it, though. It's busy. And then, you know,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: because me and Ed Lover had covered the package, the
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Hulu package, you know, we had a lot of moving parts.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: We had to sneak off to look at, you know,
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: to catch the performances because we had so many interviews.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Incredible.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Shoot, man, I got in trouble because I went down
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: there during y'all.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Got to. Because, you know, y'all performed.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: A little earlier and then we went down, everybody, once
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: we got done with the interviews, we went down and
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: we caught Lauryn Hill. But no, it was... Amazing, it
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: was black, it was like, and your face is like,
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: we here, you know, so.
• 36:18
  Speaker 7: It was an amazing experience.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, it is.
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: I know y'all, when you did the Transformers joint, have
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: you ever turned down any opportunities that could have made
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: you bigger commercially, but it just compromised what y'all built?
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it would have made me bigger commercially,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: but they offered me a role to do something in Blade,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: like play a lead vampire or something like that, but
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I was like, nigga, that look like sucking a nigga's neck. Hey,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: told me. It's a movie, man. It's a fictional movie.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: It's a fictional movie, man. Come on, Jess!
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: And you just.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Assumed you would have to.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Be sucking somebody's neck.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: And now you see why he was hesitant.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: That was the Marvel movie?
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Blade Marvel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know Blade Marvel. That's
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: kind of crazy. You might have to take that one.
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: No, no, no.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: It's a couple of niggas in Marvel we don't remember
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: like that. That's right. That's right. We think it's the
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Marvel because you with the people. Like, y'all, you're just
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: going to blow up. Suck on the nigga neck. You
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Remember the nigga Marvel that was
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: sucking the nigga neck?
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. I can't do that.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I got to explain that to my kids and everything.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: Do y'all identity ever become a prison at some point?
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: Like your audience only expects a version of you?
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: No, what version would that be?
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, because we are who we are. I don't think
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: we have that or run into that. Because the way
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: we are at home with our kids is the.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: Same way we.
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: at home like outside you know what I'm saying so
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: it's not like we gotta like you know start telling
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: you know jokes or something like that when we get
• 38:05
  Speaker 6: outside like some comedians do but that's who y'all.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: Are though clearly like y'all are multi that's what most
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: black people are multi-dimensional multi-faceted but sometimes you know especially
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: in this game you present something to an audience and
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: they only want a certain version of you and then
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: when they see you doing something different they like I
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: didn't know you smoked weed you know what I mean.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: No no no so it's nothing like that I think
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: one of the things is They was like, dang, how
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: do I say it? Wow. What song was it that
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: I did? Niggas Need Jesus. And I did a song,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: it was a project called Hood Hymns, and it was
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: like a whole bunch of spiritual ideas that I had
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: specifically for niggas. And they was like, a lot of
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: white people was like, man, so what are we supposed
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: to do when we hear something like this? I was like, nigga,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I don't care. I said, nigga, you haven't figured out
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: that I'm, like, while I do appreciate everybody.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: You do hymns for crackers.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. A cracker hymn is crazy.
• 39:05
  Speaker 7: They call it hymns in those other churches?
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: He said what?
• 39:10
  Speaker 7: They call it hymns in those other churches?
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: No, no. I don't know what they call it, but
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: the thing is, they was like, yo, what are we
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: supposed to do? And I was like, oh, you didn't
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: really understand that I really put niggas first in what
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I'm doing.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: But the project is called... Hood him. Like hood him.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Not suburban him. Honky him.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: Honky him.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Off on that one. You say some things, they be like,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: this is for honking.
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: You been in set some days, they be like, never mind,
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: we ain't asked for this.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: Bruh.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: But they felt so offended that I did it specifically
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: for niggas. I was like, yeah, this is for niggas
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: that I grew up with. I'm not trying to offend you.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about you when I did this. I
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: was thinking about niggas I grew up with only and
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: how they can receive exactly what it is that I'm saying.
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: But I love watching y'all, though, because y'all are so, like, black.
• 40:05
  Speaker 8: A lot of times they'll tell you if you trying to, like,
• 40:09
  Speaker 8: move a business or break anything you talked about this
• 40:11
  Speaker 8: before like you you can't just cater to like your
• 40:14
  Speaker 8: people you gotta think about everybody and I love that
• 40:17
  Speaker 8: y'all break through and it's like no it's for us
• 40:19
  Speaker 8: and they're very direct and instinctive about it even when
• 40:21
  Speaker 8: you talk about your family and your children that you're
• 40:23
  Speaker 8: raising y'all are raising black children in this world and
• 40:26
  Speaker 8: that comes first.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah they be like you don't got your kids in
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: there nah nah nah I don't trust niggas like that
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: I don't trust those type of places yeah we create
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: the curriculum we get we look up the teachers that
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: we want to teach the children and stuff like that
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: so see that's one thing I do you homeschool all
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: of them all of them but see while niggas spend
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: money on cars and clothes and all that type of
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: stuff yeah I spend money on yeah curriculum homeschool yeah
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I want this stuff to be the best because I
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: really want to invest in what it is that we
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: doing my oldest.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: Did a year of homeschool she homeschooled her junior year
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: of high school yeah of high school yeah How was that?
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, the funny part is that's something that she wanted.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. So she homeschooled her junior year.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: So she was like, I'm sick of these people. I guess.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. It was.
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: And then she went back her senior year and now
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: she's in college.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: That's great.
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: See, my son was the other way around, right? So
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: he did, he said, he did a year, he did
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: eighth grade homeschool. He was like, I don't want to,
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: I want to be home, do homeschool.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: And then he was like, I'm sick of y'all. I
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: want to go back.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I want to go back.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: Trying to see the girls because now we in high
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: school now.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: High school.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: How old is y'all oldest? Seven.
• 41:40
  Speaker 6: Seven.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: We got seven, six, five, three, two.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: So it should be okay. So it should be easier
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: right now because they're all littles.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Like they're all little.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: So homeschooling them shouldn't be as complicated as it would
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: if y'all had.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Teenagers.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no. I can't even imagine that
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I'd be happy. I was telling somebody this the other day.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I'd be happy and hurt almost every single day because
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I fully understand, like, it's not going to last.
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Like, my man. Yeah, my oldest son right now. Well,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: my oldest son and my second son, they both, like,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: every day wake up, put on their Spider-Man outfit like
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: it's their uniform. And it's, like, every day. And one
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: of them, my lights can't wait. I'm not proud of it.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: This is funny.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: My light-skinned one.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: He's the younger brother.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: He's three. Listen. He be saying he Peter Parker.
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: Our oldest one that looks just like Toby is Miles Morales.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: And he put on a suit.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: He say he Peter Parker.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Yo, let him be Peter, yo.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: I got to. You do. And I tried to like,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: you know how you try to like.
• 42:45
  Speaker 7: Throw some black in there a little bit.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, y'all both Miles Morales. He said, nah, daddy. I
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: had Peter Parker. Chico Peter Parker. I said, son, he white.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Chico white. Chico White.
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: He just, he sees the difference in color and he
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: sees the difference in color in his brother and that's
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: what he equates it to. Then I reinforce it because
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: he's the same color as me so I'm like, no,
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: we're black, we're a black family.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: You know, he's three so he's still understanding.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: He want to be his own Spider-Man. I love that though.
• 43:21
  Speaker 6: And that's another thing, he really don't want to share Miles' morality.
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: He's a very independent boy. He's been that way since.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Two years old. Yeah. He wouldn't let us pick him up.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: All of my kids, when I come in, Daddy pick
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: me up. At two years old, he the only one.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: They used to be like, put me down.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: Put me down.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: I've never seen nothing like that.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: I'm good.
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: I'm good.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: Y'all got to do that for me.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Please tell me, who is on your jacket?
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: This is my granddaddy. This is your granddaddy. Yeah, this
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: is my granddaddy. I got a tattoo of him on
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: my forearm, too, but he had the biggest... inspiration in
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: my life. You know, Nigerians don't really talk like that. Yeah.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Until they get real, real old. So when my grandpa was, like,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: in his 80s, he came to live with us from
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Nigeria when I was in high school. And he used
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: to wake me up every morning, 5 o'clock in the morning,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: to come pray. And he used to always, every time
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: he used to come in the room, he used to
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: be like, how is life? And he used to just
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: talk to me about life and about everything that was
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: going on. And he used to always tell me that
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I'd be in the position that I'm in now. So
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I'd be, yeah. So this project, Low Key is... dang,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I didn't even think about that fact.
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: Period.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of to honor him too. Look at me,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: just walking around with all this stuff.
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I created this, yeah.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: It's very intentional.
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: I love it.
• 44:38
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: And it's the first time this type of traditional garb
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: has been like infused into denim fabric. Yeah, so I
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: just thought I'd say that just in case you see
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: any nigga in the world try to do it. Because
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: it hasn't been done. It hasn't been done. So when
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: you see any brand that start doing this type of stuff,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: they watch this.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: And then they was like, oh, let me do it. Now,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: I don't mind. That's why I do it. So we
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: can be influenced and then everybody can just take it
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: and run with it. I don't, I don't feel no
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: type of way, but just, you know what I'm saying?
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: But just know, it's WeGway.
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: Has that happened before?
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 45:06
  Speaker 7: You said it like, that happens a lot.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: 100%. Yeah, yeah. It's been a lot of different companies
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: who have tried to run off with the sauce and
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: then like, like, show a little love on the back end,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: but not give us no money, but just give us
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: whatever they ran off with the sauce with. Crazy. Crazy.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: But you got it.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, it's hard not to bite.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but we conduits. We conduits. As long as you
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: understand you a conduit and it ain't supposed to stay
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: with you, like, just give it to the people.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Inspiration. Yeah.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: It's part of it. Nigga be mad. I be like, bruh,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: you must not really got it. Don't be mad. Just
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: keep going.
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: What's one thing, shifting gears, what's one thing y'all wish
• 45:41
  Speaker 7: creatives understood about allowing ourselves to be spiritually led?
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: It's the purest version of you because you're a spiritual being. Yeah.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: You're a spiritual being having a human experience. So if
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: you could fully tap into that, there's no limit to
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: what you can create and how you can impact the
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: world and influence. And I'm just making this up off
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: the top of my head. I didn't even think about
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: this question. That's crazy.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: I never thought about that.
• 46:05
  Speaker 7: No, I wrote it down a long time ago.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Y'all said something.
• 46:11
  Speaker 8: I didn't want to forget it. Y'all said something and
• 46:15
  Speaker 8: I was like, man, everything about them just feels so like,
• 46:18
  Speaker 8: y'all have locked in with God and your faith so much.
• 46:20
  Speaker 8: Y'all are just kind of walking through this and just
• 46:23
  Speaker 8: putting out there your art.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: How do you feel about that?
• 46:28
  Speaker 6: I think that if people were to be more spiritually led,
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: I think they would.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: Be less lost. Less lost and less hurt.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: That's good.
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that is actually very important. And I
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: think that a lot of people get intimidated when they're
• 46:47
  Speaker 6: speaking on those types of things in public places just
• 46:50
  Speaker 6: because they don't know how they'll be perceived and things
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: like that. But there's so many people out there speaking
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: their minds and their truths out and stuff that could
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: be crazy as hell.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: And they don't feel no type of way about it.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: No, seriously.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: And so I'm like, if that's who you are and
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: that's what.
• 47:08
  Speaker 6: You really and truly believe in, be confident enough to
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: say it.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: Like, I believe in God, Christ. Like, that's me. That's
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: what I run with.
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: And like, I believe like, you know, women are multifaceted
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: and that we can be anything that we try to be.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: Like we can do the careers. We can raise a family.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: And we don't have to be put inside of like
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: one container and be held back.
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: We can be our true selves because we have so
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: many attributes to us. And that's what I believe. And
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: I can speak confidently about that because that's what I believe.
• 47:43
  Speaker 6: So if that's what you believe, then speak to it. Yeah.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: They out here speaking crazy.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: Y'all see it on TV all day long.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: And they don't feel no type of way about it.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: So why do you?
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Give God the glory.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: What y'all want to play off the bridge?
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: What's y'all favorite jam, man?
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: What's y'all favorite song right now?
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Let's go with What Do You Keep Saying. That's an
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: energy record. All right, let's do it. Let's do it.
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: Crazy.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Ooh, Jay Electronica on this, too. Come on. Yeah, yeah.
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: Fire.
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: All right, hey, Toby, Fat, thank y'all for joining us
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: this morning, man.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: I love y'all.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Appreciate y'all. Don't be strangers, man. Don't.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: Don't be strangers at all. Come back.
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: I'll be back when Queen Mother come out.
• 48:25
  Speaker 7: Period.
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: Yes, ma'am.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: I'm back.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: I'm back.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: Because it's for us.
• 48:30
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: Yes, it's for us.
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: Period.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: It's for us.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: Make sure y'all go pick up the bridge. It's Toby,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: it's Fat, it's The Breakfast Club.
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: Hold up.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Every day I wake up. Wake your ass up. The
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: You all finished or you all done?