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The Bible for Kids Podcast - S9Ep33: Hannah E Harrison - The Good Farmer and the Worried Donkey · Shine FM

• 0:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Christian parenting.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Bible for Kids Podcast with your hosts, author Trisha Goyer, and author and co-creator of Veggie Tales, Mike Nuraki.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: If instilling biblical values and kids is important to you, this podcast will give you the resources, wisdom, and hope to do just that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Now let's join our hosts, Trisha, and Mike for this week's episode.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back to the Bible for Kids Podcast.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm Sarah Humphrey.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm Trisha Goyer.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Today we welcome a award-winning author and illustrator, Hannah E. Harrison, we'll be talking about the good farmer and the worried donkey, which is the cutest book ever.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I love it.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: It's a story about finding peace and God strength.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And it was created to remind kids that God is their strength.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: But before we do that, we like to start every Bible for kids podcast with the Bible verse.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So Sarah,
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Matthew 11 28, come to me all who are weary and burdened and I will give you rest.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I love that.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So thanks, Sarah.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: So again, join us today is Hannah Harrison and she's an author and an illustrator.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Like this is part of the blows me away.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And this book is the good farmer and the worried donkey.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, Hannah, welcome.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: This book looks amazing and the aspirations are beautiful.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I love looking through it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's awesome.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Now you mentioned obviously in the title, it's got the word word in it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so we have a couple of questions about that already.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, start.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, now we also often mention this parents and as pastors and leaders, not to worry to our kids.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But they do.
• 1:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: And we all do even as adults.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So is that kind of what prompted you to focus on worry in this book or could you tell us maybe a little bit of how you came upon this topic for us?
• 1:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, well, yes, I mean, everything that you just said, I think we all worry, I don't, you know, our kids worry, I worry parents worry, you know, like it is really hard not to worry, and I think I really have always struggled with that even when I was small.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I think, you know, that verse that you quoted Matthew 11.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: talking about, you know, when Jesus says his burden is easy and as Yoke is easy and his burden is light, I just really wanted to explore like why does he say that?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Why is that true?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Because sometimes it can be hard to not worry.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Um, tell us a little bit about the plot and about Charlie raised Charlie, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes
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  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, we'll see.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, so Charlie begins life at the beginning of the story.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: He's he belongs to an old Miller.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And so he works in this, he's his piece of burden.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And he works in this dark dusty grist mill.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not so great for Charlie there.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, he's always being yoke to a big ox named Angus and being pulled in ways he doesn't want to go.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, carrying all these burdens that are too heavy for him.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And
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  [SPEAKER_03]: the Miller likes to dangle carrots in front of him and keep him walking in circles, you know, when he's on that millstone.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And so life isn't so, so great.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: But then this farmer comes and purchases Charlie and brings him to his beautiful farm.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And Charlie's worried the farmers made a mistake.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, he can't imagine what he would want him for.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: But the farmer says he has important plans for Charlie and that he wants him to help him plant in harvest wheat.
• 3:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so Charlie starts to worry you know like what if I can't do everything that the farmer asks I really like it here I love the farm right I don't want to disappoint him and so the worries start to creep in and he comes down with a bad case of the what ifs and he's just worried that the farmer will send them away if he can't do it all.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, the farmer is a good farmer and Charlie figures that out by the end.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That he has nothing to worry about because this farmer is good in patience and kind and strong and will carry his burdens for him.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That's awesome.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the essence of it comes from Matthew 11 and the parable of the stower.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you could tell us a little bit more about that and why you think this scripture has had such an impact on you enough to write a whole book about it.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, so I mean, initially I was thinking more about the Yoke metaphor and trying to explore that and then I was thinking, you know, Jesus says his burden is easy and his Yoke is light and so, you know, the farming setting really came to the forefront of my mind and to me the reason that he says that is because of the first verse that's in the book, which is Philippians one six when Jesus says, he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that is how we cannot worry because we know that he does it all.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: He begins the work, he carries it on all the way to completion.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And so I have this farming seen in mind and so I started exploring different verses and all these things kept popping to mind about like plows and
• 4:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: stumbling blocks and all of that and of course the parable of the sewer and as I'm reading that it's kind of funny how it all came about.
• 5:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's sort of took me by surprise a little bit because in my mind I'm thinking well Charlie is going to go and he's going to help plant in harvest wheat and so they need to clear this field in order to plant and as they're clearing the field you know they're removing the stones and they're plowing and they're spreading the manure
• 5:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: and all of these things and I'm realizing that as they're working on the field and cultivating it, the farmer is actually cultivating Charlie's heart and making it ready to receive the word.
• 5:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so it was just a really cool moment when it all sort of came together and you know, and I loved that so much it was just really neat to see that happen.
• 5:38
  [SPEAKER_04]: I love that.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I love how you, like, as you're writing, it's like being revealed to you like,
• 5:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was so cool.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And when I was able to go back and really kind of hone in on that and the illustration joins, like I got to make sure I had lots of weeds with lots of thorns, you know, and just different things visual like clues like that in the story because you know, and I mean, I was I had the rough draft on and everything before this finally like clicked for me.
• 6:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so it was just really neat when I was like, oh, just the natural process of clearing a field illustrates the parable of the sewer, you know, thinking about the process of how like
• 6:16
  [SPEAKER_04]: And the words, is it the words come to you first or does the picture in your mind?
• 6:21
  [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just amazed that you do like, well, I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's kind of like a, it's sort of a chicken and egg kind of thing, right?
• 6:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because like, as I'm thinking up the story, pictures are coming into my mind.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, so I can kind of visualize maybe what the illustrations are going to look like.
• 6:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: And as I'm picturing things, I'm also writing the words.
• 6:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, I mean,
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And essence, I guess you would say that the words are written first even though the pictures are still, you know, kind of up here and there's just this sort of back and forth, you know, because the illustrations tell half of the story and so I'm always kind of thinking like what part of the story would be best told in pictures and what part is best told in words and, you know, just trying to figure out how best to convey the idea that I have.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And how like when you're illustrating are you inspired by things like I know obviously you're way further along and illustrating them like copying off of something else that like how do you get your ideas and translate them on to the paper do you get inspired like in waves you know or are you like the disciplined illustrator who practices.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Does that make sense?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I guess so.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't, you know, inspiration is a hard thing to kind of pinpoint.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I just know, you know, you're living your life and you're seeing all these things and doing all of these things.
• 7:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: And somehow, you know, you can use all of those things in your art work, all of those experiences and things.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: For example, the donkey, you know, I didn't even mean to do it, but it happens to look an awful lot like our dog.
• 7:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I have to put it in the air.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, it's just like, bought our cup.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, you know, like, the body language and the facial expressions and things.
• 7:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: And like, I mean, and also my facial expressions, I look like I was flipping through a minute ago and I was like, ah, I make that face.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, so I think, you know, I'm originally from New Hampshire, so I think the farm house looks very much like a New England or a Canadian sort of farm house, kind of in-green cables, and also Robert Frost's farm kind of inspired that a little bit, but also I live in Oklahoma now, and so a lot of the wheat field, you know, I'm around those all the time, and so I have those as inspiration, the farm animals, yeah, so it's kind of hard to say, you know, I can't really pinpoint exactly.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It just sort of comes out of me, it's an overflow
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  [SPEAKER_03]: God works it all out.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and you also mentioned kids.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I mean being a parent.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: How does that impact?
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Because do you ever like test stuff out or like hey, do you think of this or yeah, sometimes chronic or in the process?
• 8:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean I kind of kind of do and I kind of don't because I'm a little bit nervous.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: They're gonna kind of like like
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  [SPEAKER_03]: now.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So I just sort of like go with it and I know if they like it in the end for the most part.
• 8:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: But my studio is I sort of share a space with my daughters where they kind of like hang out and their their rooms are kind of at the other end of the it's in the attic.
• 9:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: It sounds like our kids sleep in the attic, but it's a finished space, but they're always yeah, they're always kind of around them and don't march up here.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, and so they see things and everyone's in a while they'll be like, oh that's really
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  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, so I don't really know what they're observing and what they aren't, but I will say that I always have them in mind.
• 9:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, like I know how much I care about, you know, what they're reading, what they're seeing.
• 9:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm obviously trying to impart truth onto them and share that with them.
• 9:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm always thinking about them and have them in mind.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to lead my own children astray.
• 9:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm thinking about.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: My friends, kids, other kids that I don't know, like, I just, I take it very seriously.
• 9:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I just want to try to share the truth with them as best as I can and know that God will do what he's going to do with it.
• 9:53
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  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, come back to the Bible for kids and we're talking with Hannah E. Harrison about the good farmer and the worry donkey.
• 11:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, Hannah, I'm sure that this book took you some time between the writing and the illustrating, it's just beautiful.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Would you say, was there anything that surprised you the most or anything that came up during the process of the book that you could share with us that might be fun?
• 11:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, I shared a little bit about how the parable of the store kind of like worked its way into the story in an unexpected way but also just the medium of watercolor in general is very sort of spontaneous and, you know, you can't really like it.
• 12:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: big things very easily.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It sort of has a mind of its own and you just have to learn to go with it, which was really good for me because I'm a lot like Charlie, I'm a warrior and I'm kind of like I like being in control and so there were many times when I was illustrating that I was actually surprised at the way the paint moved and how it worked and yeah that was that was just really exciting for me because I go into it not really knowing what to expect or how it's going to turn out and then it's always really fun when you have little moments where like oh that looks really cool
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  [SPEAKER_04]: I love that and so I know you have other characters that maybe if people are familiar with their books they might recognize some of these characters so is there any other characters you want to talk about or do you have a favorite other character other than Charlie and the Farmer and your book?
• 12:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh well let's see well of course the farmer you know he's the the carryover from the last book so he's the common thread throughout he looks a lot like the shepherd from the good shepherd in the stubborn sheep.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, I think, let's see, as far as secondary characters, oh, I don't know, there's a lot of little farm animals around, and I think I kind of really like the barn cats that I have because they're just always kind of look like they're perring and sort of like weaving, you know, in and out of the farmer's legs and just really love him and or are sleeping, like one of the cats, the one in the
• 13:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you find the sticker in there, but I think, yeah, just the farm animals, especially the cats, I feel like they have kind of already gone through maybe what Charlie's gone through and they've arrived at that place of peace that we're all, you know, enjoy being in and to me the cat's just sort of like embody the ultimate sort of like feeling of just joy and peace that that you get when you're in the presence of the farmer.
• 13:54
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I love that the kids, I mean, there's so many things that kids for kids to look at.
• 13:58
  [SPEAKER_04]: And we said, yeah, like, we're just gonna read the book.
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  [SPEAKER_04]: And they're like, look at the things and point it out the cats and which is just another part of the experience.
• 14:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think so.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I put a bunch of little baby chicks on the front, kind of running around, you know, like, a lot like kids do.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I know our church has a lot of kids.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: They tend to be all over the place and I love it.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And just, you know, different things like that.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I had in mind.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, very fun.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, along with the cats and the chicks, there's also a previous book that you have about sheep, right?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It is.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: The good shepherd and the stubborn sheep.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Here's George.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So do you have anything that carry down maybe from that book of George or you said the good farmer.
• 14:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: He was right, not book, and then he came over to the next.
• 14:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: What is the appeal for it?
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: What do people love and how the story translates from one to the other?
• 14:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: What do you think of it?
• 14:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not really sure.
• 14:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think, I mean, I'm hoping that it's the truth.
• 14:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's in the books that shines through that they're drawn to you.
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's always the goal.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And if it makes it easy for them to be able to share those truths with their kids, then that is just everything I'd ever hoped for.
• 15:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: um you know there's a little bit of humor and I think people tend to tell me that they like that a little bit and I think kids too you know like if you can make a book that's also fun and engaging for them that they want to hear over and over again then that's great because it gives them the opportunity as you said to see more details and understand things more so we definitely want to make sure that it's an enjoyable book for them to read.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: I love that how you see like the beginning of the book, the donkeys just like he's so like weary and then he's like dancing almost like dancing like prancing around.
• 15:35
  [SPEAKER_04]: He's so cute.
• 15:37
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I just love it so much and I mean so I my grandkids were just here for five weeks straight.
• 15:43
  [SPEAKER_04]: They live in here.
• 15:47
  [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't have a copy, but this is one that we're going to just love to read open over again.
• 15:51
  [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, but like in the back there's some verses.
• 15:55
  [SPEAKER_04]: So how can our audience have comparisons or grandparents use that to make it even more impactful as you're going to the book?
• 16:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
• 16:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I definitely always want to make it a goal to point kids back to the word of God.
• 16:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: I really believe that, you know, his word doesn't return void.
• 16:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that becomes by hearing and hearing by the word of God.
• 16:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so it's super important to me to get those scripture verses in there.
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: And there are lots of references to scripture throughout the book when the farmer is talking to Charlie.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So the verses in the back sort of reiterate those things that are being shared in the story so that they can read those verses, look them up, read the actual verses in their context and everything, and then maybe it kind of helps make the story make even more sense to them and they can see maybe more clearly what it was that I was trying to convey there.
• 16:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm hoping that, you know, as they're reading their Bibles, maybe they'll
• 16:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, think back to this book a little bit and be like, oh, I know what a yoke is, you know?
• 16:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I know what a plow does.
• 16:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, those things that are a little bit more obscure to us now in our modern society.
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, I'm just hoping that they have a little bit of a visual cue to sort of go with different things that they're reading about and God's Word.
• 17:08
  [SPEAKER_04]: I love that.
• 17:09
  [SPEAKER_04]: Well, can you read some of it to us?
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Do you?
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, is it over the beginning?
• 17:13
  [SPEAKER_04]: Or pick a part in the middle, whatever you need.
• 17:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, let's see here.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, well, we'll just start at the beginning.
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: You want me to hold it so you can see it?
• 17:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 17:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was interesting.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: All right, so over here, we've got he who began a good work in you, will carry it on to completion, Matt's Philippians 1-6.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: This, my name is Charlie, and I belong to the Miller.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm as beast of burden.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That means I push and pull and carry things around.
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's not so bad.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Except the Miller weighs me down and heavy loads.
• 17:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm always struggling and making a mad.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: And he yolks me to a big ox named Angus, who yanks me away as I don't want to go.
• 17:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: The Miller likes to dangle carrots in front of me too.
• 17:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, how I want a shiny carrot.
• 17:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: But for some reason, they're always just out of reach.
• 17:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: I guess I'm not a very good donkey.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: But then one day, just as I'm about to get in trouble again for being slow, a man comes and purchases me.
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Why he wants me?
• 18:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can't imagine.
• 18:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: He brings me to his beautiful farm far, far, far away from the old Miller and his dark dusty grist mill.
• 18:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I hope I can stay.
• 18:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I worry the farmer has made a mistake.
• 18:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: The farmer says he has important plans for me.
• 18:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: He wants me to help him plant and harvest wheat.
• 18:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I like the farmer.
• 18:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to disappoint him.
• 18:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: The farmer tells me, Winter will be here before we know it and we have to prepare the field for planting.
• 18:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: First of all he says, we've got to remove the stumbling blocks.
• 18:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: I look around it all the rocks.
• 18:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: There are so many and I'm just a dinky donkey.
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: What if I'm not fast enough?
• 18:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Don't worry, says the farmer.
• 18:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: He heaves a rock into my basket.
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: All in due time, he says the farmer is so patient.
• 18:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, we're like, no way, please wait, I can't let you go to the stop.
• 19:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's okay, it's okay.
• 19:04
  [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.
• 19:06
  [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I think of you.
• 19:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, is there anything else you'd like to share about the book?
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: Um, anything fun or special that just you would like our, your readers to know our listeners to know just about your process or just the intent or the heart behind it.
• 19:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, a little, you know, my heart is always just to share the gospel.
• 19:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I, if this, um, I'm hoping is just of kind of an easy, clear presentation of it that they can share with their kids.
• 19:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm hoping that the book leaves room for, um, lots of discussions to happen in the family at bedtime or whenever the parents are reading or their, their caregivers are grandparents are reading the story to them.
• 19:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just love that it creates that sort of family time together where we can think about how good our farmer is, how good God is, and just praise them all the more for it.
• 19:53
  [SPEAKER_04]: I love how many books is this now?
• 19:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is number two in this series or a collection.
• 19:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if it's really a series because one doesn't depend on the other, but yeah.
• 20:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: Right.
• 20:02
  [SPEAKER_04]: And then what about your other ones?
• 20:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: The other one, so I have six secular books that I printed with Penguin Random House and so those are still out in the world there and available or books are sold as well.
• 20:15
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
• 20:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Awesome.
• 20:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, thank you, Hannah.
• 20:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: This has been amazing.
• 20:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Can you tell our listeners a little bit more information about where they can get the good farmer and the word donkey and maybe a little bit about your website.
• 20:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's available wherever books are sold and I also have links on my website, which is Hannah eHarrison.com.
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm also on Instagram and on Facebook and you can find me there.
• 20:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Go ahead and check it out.
• 20:40
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, and ask your library to order a copy.
• 20:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yes, please.
• 20:44
  [SPEAKER_04]: I just have those little buttons when they can ask.
• 20:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, I love that.
• 20:50
  [SPEAKER_04]: with so cute.
• 20:51
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