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April Mason Reveals the Truth About Men, Purpose & Healing | The Love You Moore Show · Love You Moore with Willie Moore Jr.

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  [SPEAKER_03]: Next on the Love You Morsh, I believe as a man, you should be choosing a woman that's good for your peace, your legacy and your portfolio.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I was coaching women, I told them do not engage what a man that has no purpose.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Because he's going to drive you to hell, trying to figure it out.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Trying to figure it out, trying to figure it out.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Because if you are a woman that is on her stuff, he's going to start resenting you because he hasn't done the work to figure out what he needs to be doing.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's becomes, why are you always doing something?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Why are you always got something going on?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Why are you going to have to go to school again?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like he hasn't had his own purpose.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Tell me what you want.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Don't tell me what you didn't get in your last relationships.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: They can tell me what those things are.
• 0:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, to be honest with you, the things that you didn't get will tell you what you need.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: One would ask, why would an April Mason be single when she has all of this information?
• 0:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't you believe the pinnacle of the game would be seeing the person who knows all represent a relationship that she's coached people through.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I totally agree.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: However, I have been married.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I have had kids, because you know, the Kevin Samuel said that.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And I said, and I told him, I said, Kevin, I'm no different to you.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I just only been married once.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he was kidding me.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I believe he was married twice.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he was through.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And he had his kid.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That's a good noop.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm like, so I was married.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And I had kids, so I've given my contribution to society already.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So what's the difference?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I think we wouldn't have so many problems if we chose from a place of knowing what we need versus our trauma.
• 1:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey family, Willie Mojoon, you hear another edition of the Love You More Show.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This show is designed and catered to people who have been through hurts, habits, handguns, breakups, and their journey to loving themselves more.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing, today I get the estate in privilege to hang out with a lady who's literally been making ripples across the country.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So many people have been inspired by her message.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, you know, you've probably seen her all online and of course, she's a speaker, she's a Ted, and ex-speaker.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't play with her, she don't be on that stage, too.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: and she speaks about femininity in a way that's actually digestible, not only the women, but also the men.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I get the esteemed privilege to call her my sister from another mister, the one and only April Mason is in the house.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What's going on, love?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, dear, how are you?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Girl, you looking just like yourself, too.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a good thing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, you put that red lip on.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know the red lip.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's like, th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-th-
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And how you feeling, baby?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I am feeling wonderful.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I took some little time off to do me.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm here.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm feeling good.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That's good.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: No complaints.
• 2:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you've been cheering for the moment of the time that they often say that you're not supposed to ask a lady how old she is, but because you own social media letting everybody know that I'm 50 and fine, how does it feel to be 50?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It's a rebirth.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I have no problem saying that I'm 15.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I believe a lot of times we had it issue in the past because women were discriminated against when they said their age, you know, you're not supposed to do this.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Or if you say you're 50, you no longer attractive, or you know, they put you in these categories.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: But we are not the 40s, 50s and 60s of yesterday year, honey.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I probably are.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: We are completely different.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if it was the vaccines they gave was back in the day, but Jen Axeers, I think we out here as they would say killing the game.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So I have no problem.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: saying my age and that I'm a grandmother.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So how many grandkids you have?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I have four grandkids and my kids are 31, 29 and 27.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: What did they call you?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Grammy.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Grammy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Grammy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Got it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking for it to be a grandpa.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Like everybody changed their name and all that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, my son's not 22 and he's a fully functional male who probably can have kids if you know.
• 3:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so if he, if he does it, I'm not picking no nickname.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pop out of you.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Come on.
• 3:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't mind that But April here on the show, we like to do this thing that we call the icebreaker.
• 3:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Traditionally when the icebreaker comes It's usually somebody give a funny joke or not so funny joke and it takes about three or four seconds and it's like Not here we do music, right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and this particular song you're actually a part of the visual is called clockwork.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's take a look check this out
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So wifey started counseling and she thought it would be a good idea for me to come to Canada.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Man, I don't know if I really want to do this.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Because I know she's been telling this woman all my business.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I walk in the counseling.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Dang!
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know her counsel was this fine.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: She even telling all my business.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I walk in.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey ladies.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh!
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I was at the wrong spot and I'm uh, I thank you for joining us.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Truly my honor.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Willy Maltchie nice to meet you my honor this is my counselor April so nice to meet her wifey life so glad you can make it darling it's truly my honor you look amazing you do too energy in the room a little tears wife unto all my business so let's talk this out and from a hug I'm like okay you ready I am you know um whatever you want me to do I'm with it are you going to tell the truth I promise I'm going to tell the truth you
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Her eyes lit up like a Christmas tree when I told her she was worth the child.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's okay, even if you're in church, it's something you can do with the hip roll.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You can go download that song, clap work, or just go stream it wherever you get your music.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to everybody who's already doing that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The remix has to park around it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks to the love you more show.
• 6:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: He said it, I stalked him and it's done.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Huh?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's get that out of the way.
• 6:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you did so well in the video, but honestly, the storyline is about a couple.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Who?
• 6:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: it's going through a whole lot.
• 6:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I know that earlier in your life, that was a version of you that decided to connect with the man and you said I do in the incubator stages of you healing.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What have you learned since being married and becoming this version and what April needs now?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: First of all, I, when I got married, I was not taught what to actually look for.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I was taught if he loved God, he'll love you.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't taught about chemistry, compatibility, lifestyle, like I'm big on lifestyle.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I think a lot of people, they don't, they don't take that into consideration of what type of lifestyle you want, do you want to have, and can this person
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  [SPEAKER_03]: give you that and can you guys be on the same page with that.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So growing up for me, we were just taught as long as he loved God and he got a chance.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, he's going to be a good man.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So you grew up in church.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yes, I. Oh, yes, I came from a background where all of my aunts and uncles, their all pastures, preachers, apostles, like, I know the things.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: all, you know, the whole church thing.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So I grew up in that, but they failed us because they did not teach us about true relationships and what it takes to have a relationship.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: They spiritualize everything.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: But when you come out the clouds of being all spiritual and caring on, do we want to live in the same place?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I'd often say you never hear me talking negatively about my ex-husband because I chose Tim based on the identity that I had at the time and all he did was be exactly what he was supposed to be.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, as you start to grow, you start to learn, wait a minute.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That's not really who I am.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Like he wanted to live on 90 acres of land.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, well, I'm from San Francisco Bay Area.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: We haven't lived on a land.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't want no cows.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't that's not my thing.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And so he wanted six kids.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, you don't love so bad.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So these are conversations.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: that we're not had, but as long as he loved God and he went to church, he was a good man, you can be a good person but not good together.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think people don't understand that just because you may go through a divorce, it means that, oh my God, you're doomed.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: No, I was, I think I was in my 20s.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I was in my late 20s when I got married.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I should have got a half of a hello and I should have kept on walking.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Because the woman that I was becoming, I started becoming her in the marriage.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And for me, I'm not the type that's just because I'm becoming, I'm gonna just leave you.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: He had opportunities to become.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: He just didn't want to.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And that was okay.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: He was not on the same trajectory that I was on.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And that was okay.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And so for me, I've learned that it's okay if people do not stay together.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: It's okay if people choose to live a life that's benefiting to them.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's another thing that I wasn't taught to choose a man that's a benefit to you.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Because you all typically choose women that are a benefit to you in some way shape, form or fashion.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: What do you have benefits that
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And we're just not talking.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: We're not taught that.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: We are taught to choose off of feelings and how you make us feel in the moment.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That's one of the things that I've learned as I matured if there is no benefit to the man.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Meaning not necessarily it's I'm looking at all on paper, but who the woman is and what benefits does she need?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Meaning I'm a woman that I can be a brat sometime.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Really?
• 10:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
• 10:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can not imagine you being a brat.
• 10:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can say, if you say no, I can say, is it a heart?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Or is it a self now?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And is there anything I could do to get a yes?
• 10:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, ma'am.
• 10:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was in the comment.
• 10:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't you people watch you can do to get a yes in the comments?
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: The law is here.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 10:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's get that out the way.
• 10:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What a great conversation.
• 10:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, I don't want to interrupt, but I do have a call to action for you.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I need you to subscribe to this channel.
• 10:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: We want to make sure that the world hears these healing conversation.
• 10:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Can you subscribe right now?
• 10:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, back to the show.
• 11:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want to just kind of digress a little bit, because you know, I'm blessed to, I would say somewhat to be a friend of yours.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I know, you know, growing up, it just has not always been this beautiful story.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Like you overcame a lot, whether it be right or violent.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So what have you, like what gave you the heart to trust again after going through all of that?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And even saying I do to a man after so many crazy things that happened to you at such an early age.
• 11:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you know, well, if we are honest, we still want love and companionship, no matter what we go through.
• 11:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: And when you understand the core of the fact that it took a man and a woman for us to be created, what makes us think we don't need companionship to people.
• 11:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I believe as women, once we go through those things, we try to
• 11:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: kind of reconstruct our hearts and our natural makeup to say, you know what?
• 11:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'll just rather be by myself and we don't really want to, but we try to make ourselves believe the lie instead of saying, who was I doing the time that I chose this individual?
• 12:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I believe a lot of times we as women, we and y'all know you know I love me and I love y'all But we give y'all way more credit for no one stuff that we think you should know that you don't know.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't Know about romen you should be able to plan a beautiful day You know that movie that you watch it was a writer's room in there wrote that part out
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he didn't actually do.
• 12:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and my best friend, Dr. Bobby Price, he had said, he's a, he brought out a list of all of the dates that you've gone on and he said, I'm not a date dude, I'm a provider dude, I this is what I do, but he said, I have a list in my phone of all of the dope stuff that you do even by yourself so that I can make them dates.
• 12:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, so I feel like women, we carry the romance.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: We are the ones that I would say influence.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: you all to do the things that we want you to do and so I believe we a lot of times put more on you all that you were not prepared but like y'all don't come here with empathy you don't come here with romance you don't come here just with a high level of emotional intelligence y'all learn those things through women but women are looking to be taught by you well how
• 13:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: They don't unless they had a mama, a sister, and typically by the time you get a, what they call a man that know these things, he's dated women who taught him those things.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So now he can give them to you.
• 13:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 13:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: And nobody wants to be the person to teach those things.
• 13:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: So when I was in makeup, I was talking to your makeup artist about one of my male clients.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: He's very well paid, the high value, all that he has those things.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: But guess what?
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  [SPEAKER_03]: He had never been to a five star restaurant before.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: he had never been to a concert before, not because he didn't have the money, but because he worked all the time.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: And so I took him out.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That's you.
• 13:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Raise the hand.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's you.
• 13:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want to go side and go anywhere in the world.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 13:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can go to any concert that I want to go to.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But I grew up with a daddy who went to work 16 hours a night.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So the example I saw was, what does a man do?
• 14:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: He goes to work.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, what does he do after that?
• 14:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like vacation?
• 14:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I took five vacations in one year, one time.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I felt like such a loser.
• 14:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, why are we vacating in so much?
• 14:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you just, you know, you're dating someone who likes the vacation.
• 14:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like sneaking, getting on the computer, trying to figure things out.
• 14:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think you absolutely write about that.
• 14:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and so this guy, he didn't know how to do any of those things.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: So I curated our time together because I coached him, but then I always add an activity.
• 14:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I took him to Alex Island concert.
• 14:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: I said, all right, here's the deal.
• 14:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to play like we brothers, sisters, so the girls don't be wonder who I am.
• 14:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: And as I want you to go out there, I want to see how you engage with women.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: But because he works so much, he didn't really know how to engage.
• 14:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: But he was over a six-figure man.
• 14:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: So after that, I took him to his first
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  [SPEAKER_03]: fine dining experience.
• 14:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I took him to Perry's take house.
• 14:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: That was his first time going he's like, so what do I put my napkin?
• 14:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because he saw me put my napkin on my lap.
• 14:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: He didn't know what to do.
• 14:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: But a lot of women would not have dated him.
• 15:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Girl, why didn't he know how to you went for it to use, but because he works.
• 15:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't have a problem spending money to do those things.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't have a reason to.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you're going to have to come up with something.
• 15:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'll be honest with any woman that I'm dating.
• 15:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, not least, you're going to have to wear about all this stuff you were in about, but you're going to have to be a good travel agent.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, great date plan.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I'm good at what I'm good at.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: You don't get me wrong.
• 15:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm learning now.
• 15:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: As you said, as you begin to date people and go through, you know, different experiences.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, oh, that's really cool.
• 15:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's really cool.
• 15:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: And you start to pick up your politics.
• 15:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: My question is, you know, when it comes to,
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: all of this jargon with the new age of the apromacence of the world, the seraphotanose, the shy and Brian.
• 15:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's all of these women who now, you know, they kind of stand on the shoulders of what I call you as a giant with all of these different terms of you've got to be high function and you've got to be high value.
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: What does that mean to April watching these new terms come out when they may not be clearly defined the way you would define them?
• 15:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: It means absolutely nothing.
• 16:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: because what I found is those aren't conversations that are really having had in real life.
• 16:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: People have gotten away from what I call relational intelligence.
• 16:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: So everybody has a term for all of these things and to be honest with you, it's just relational intelligence.
• 16:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Do you know how to connect with someone?
• 16:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: We know how to be around people, but do you know how to be with somebody?
• 16:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I believe a lot of what I've heard and what I'm seeing is coming from, I like, for instance, I listen to the conversations that are being had, like you'll never hear me talking negatively about men and what men do because I like men.
• 16:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: So why would I reinforce my old experiences based on the old version of me?
• 16:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Why would I do that?
• 16:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm very clear on the things that I consume.
• 16:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: You ask me to do this interview.
• 16:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Most people know I don't.
• 16:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't do interviews.
• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: But it's because the conversation is based on the Oversion.
• 16:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: And my actual title is Identity Transformation Architect.
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: At the end of the day, no matter what you're talking about, it's based on the identity that you're currently having.
• 17:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: So when you see all of these shows and these podcasts talking about toxic men
• 17:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can't cause but lame questions okay lame ask questions.
• 17:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like how is it that the break-up happened three years ago?
• 17:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: In that three years you've got your credit right?
• 17:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: You bought a car, you've went and got a home another degree, but you still live in the same identity of somebody that hurt you, you didn't learn anything.
• 17:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: When you lose a job, you take that what you've learned and you update your resume and you go get another one.
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you mean to tell me as a man or a woman that you've elevated another of your life, what you still have in these layman's conversations about the narcissist you dealt with, you can't tell me on that.
• 17:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're not really doing the inner work.
• 17:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is why I got out of the business.
• 17:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: because you have so many people who want to tell you how great they are and how academically sound and how much many businesses and millions they've made, but when I start talking to you about, well, you know what?
• 18:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Love is a beautiful thing.
• 18:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: We all need it.
• 18:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: What are these men?
• 18:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: What have you not grown in those years?
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you can't sell me on that.
• 18:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: So none of that stuff that jargon means anything to me.
• 18:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: And do, what's the one misconception, wives?
• 18:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: have about their husband, just something that they may not know.
• 18:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would say the most misconception is they don't realize that their husbands are pretty much the little boys, the wounded little boys that they were when they were children, but yet they just became adults.
• 18:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: And what I've seen, I said it and the internet tried to drag me for it, but I said, if you healed a little boy with any of them, the man that you want will show up.
• 18:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: And they thought I meant taking abuse and to see you always got us doing stuff.
• 18:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: The one man always, that's not what I mean.
• 18:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean.
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm talking to the woman who's connected to her femininity, her spirituality, sensuality, and wisdom.
• 18:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: When I say spirituality, I'm not talking about church.
• 19:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm talking about the woman that's connected to herself.
• 19:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you're able to see exactly what this man is missing.
• 19:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: One of my, I guess God given gifts and why works so much with men is within a conversation.
• 19:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can spot his insecurity, his little boy, just like that.
• 19:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, okay, so with me dating now,
• 19:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: outside for real day and day.
• 19:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, we're good to do.
• 19:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm finally outside for one of the things that I do when I vet a man, I don't vet a man the same way most women do.
• 19:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: I go in and looking at let me see his wounded little boy first and see if I have the capacity to be the container.
• 19:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't go in looking for in the other stuff.
• 19:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 19:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: What?
• 19:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I like that.
• 19:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: You like that?
• 19:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I like what you did, like, and I cannot handle that.
• 19:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 19:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: What I can do, but who I naturally am, can I actually be a container for this?
• 19:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Can I be a source of a healing place?
• 19:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of women that are healed.
• 19:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we ate healed.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: You will never know what you're talking about.
• 20:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: We just tell you, oh, go ahead.
• 20:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's really, we're not.
• 20:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you will never know that you're healed until you actually engage.
• 20:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you got the conferences, the books.
• 20:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't care if it's my books, your books, my conferences, my courses.
• 20:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: You won't know if you mastered it until you actually couldn't it.
• 20:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's why when I was working with women, they were like, I mean, all your books, and I did this and I did that, I said, okay, so who you talking to, who you date?
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody, I'm waiting on God.
• 20:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, look at up my face.
• 20:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's men all the time.
• 20:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like girl.
• 20:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's men everywhere.
• 20:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's being that.
• 20:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, you know, act like there's a location that houses good men.
• 20:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, men are outside.
• 20:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: Just go outside.
• 20:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I don't go outside.
• 20:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, then don't talk to me because there's nothing that I can do for you.
• 20:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's like, we consume so much information because there's so much information out there but not applying.
• 21:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, so to those of people who just watched on the premiere April Mason in my rightful of pension But opinion relationship guru has been doing this for years like she is the start She is the the the the Diane Carol this whole like I just see her as the the first in my opinion So make sure that you show some love in the comments April I got it.
• 21:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got to ask you this Not at your 50 and you look back what would 50 euro April's
• 21:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: None of it matters.
• 21:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Do what you want.
• 21:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's all the lie.
• 21:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Everything that we've been taught about who we are and what we are to be as women, I don't think people realize it was all given to us by men.
• 21:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: When you really look at how we are taught to be as women, from the Bible, from government, and everything in between, it was given to us from the pen or from the mouth of a man.
• 21:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: But when you're actually dealing with them, everything that they say they don't deal with or what the rules are, they don't apply when you're in a face.
• 22:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: So none of it matters.
• 22:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: It means you can get a man to do whatever you want him to do.
• 22:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Regardless of what he's saying.
• 22:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't deal with women with kids.
• 22:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't deal with women who are certain skin tone or certain height but you with somebody like none of that stuff that y'all say, no matter what matters to it.
• 22:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: My for me now is because I know you be on what you're saying.
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, a woman that she didn't hit the wall if she she 35 I can't keep the 28th to 38th away for me.
• 22:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, so none of that matters.
• 22:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not.
• 22:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to leave Ms. April.
• 22:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just, I mean, excuse me, I retract my statement.
• 22:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, Ms. April, anything under 70 is a little mama for me.
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just left the time, join the crew.
• 22:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead.
• 22:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I just think that women get so caught up and try to fit something that was all a lie in the first place.
• 22:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: So now, me, like, I do what I want to do.
• 22:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: How I want to do it.
• 22:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I don't make any apologies for it.
• 22:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because when you start getting older, more mature, you're like, wait a minute, what was I even?
• 22:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: What didn't I even care about that?
• 23:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 23:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I just have no, they say the older you get the more, I don't care you have.
• 23:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm at that stage where it's like, OK, you know, you know, are you with people?
• 23:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, OK, that's cool.
• 23:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's how you feel.
• 23:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: OK.
• 23:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I forgot, so what you're saying is there were certain rules that don't necessarily apply at this level of the game, because it's like, that doesn't matter.
• 23:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: You spoke about me, I think, and you know, because you called to me and maybe you can call me through it.
• 23:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've been challenging me and I really take a deep dive in their purpose because you have this laundry list of things that you won't do, you have this laundry list of things that you will do, you have this laundry list of what she has to look like and all of that.
• 23:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think what I'm learning now is I've made it into my 40s.
• 23:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at what I actually need from a woman and then I'm moving to my wall.
• 23:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so of course I don't want you to have three four five kids, but if if you are a great Nurturer and you're able to do you know I have three
• 24:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: smaller children in a grommet and like if you can help me here, I'm not the best administrative guy.
• 24:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you can help me with scheduling, I'm not the best, go have fun guy, but if you can say babe, I know that you've been working nice thought for the last three months.
• 24:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I think I've changed that part.
• 24:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: How do men get the heart posture to change that part?
• 24:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like what is healing that little boy look like to be able to change the desires that a man may want at this age?
• 24:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: So when I talk about this kids, I don't want to be the step daddy.
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Joseph was a step daddy.
• 24:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Show him what he's doing.
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Show us, show us what the step daddy.
• 24:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: But the thing is, I believe it's knowing what you need.
• 24:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is very important.
• 24:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think most people don't know what like you said.
• 24:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: They know what they don't want, but they've never dove into what they actually want.
• 24:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I believe as a man, you should be choosing a woman that's good for your peace, your legacy, and your portfolio.
• 24:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: and not just the look.
• 24:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now you got to be attractive to her, but beauty and attraction to me are two different things.
• 25:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: So excuse me, tell me a look, do say more.
• 25:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: So beauty is you can walk down the street and see beautiful women.
• 25:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: We look we in Atlanta, but attraction.
• 25:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: My dear.
• 25:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you don't say beautiful women.
• 25:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: I said, you show, right?
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I thought you said, I don't know about that.
• 25:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, don't you know what I'm saying?
• 25:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: You write about this.
• 25:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: OK, is that love?
• 25:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm right, is it, Lana?
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: But attraction.
• 25:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever seen a woman who she might be something that you typically would not engage with, but she has this aura about her.
• 25:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: She had this allure about her.
• 25:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you just like, I can't stop thinking about her.
• 25:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: But aesthetically, she would not be considered society's definition of beautiful.
• 25:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: to her.
• 25:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's the difference.
• 25:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I think a lot of men need to learn the difference between beauty and attraction and also looking at what as a man, what is my purpose?
• 25:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I, when I was coaching women, I told them, do not engage with a man that has no purpose because he's going to drive you to hell, trying to figure it out.
• 25:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Try to figure it because if you are a woman that is on her stuff,
• 26:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's going to start resenting you because he hasn't done the work to figure out what he needs to be doing.
• 26:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's becomes why you always doing something, why you always got something going on, why you go, go have to go to school again, what it's like he has doesn't have his own purpose.
• 26:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: And purpose doesn't necessarily mean a college degree.
• 26:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: It just means who am I and what was I placed on this earth to do?
• 26:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: And the easiest way to find that is look at what you do naturally, you know, it's one of the easiest things in my opinion to figure out, but we've made things so complicated.
• 26:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: and the revelations should be made simple.
• 26:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: You should simplify the revelation.
• 26:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so I believe that if men found women who were good for, like I said, their peace legacy and portfolio, but you can't find her until you have a purpose to know what legacy you want to leave, then choose the woman that's good for that.
• 26:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I believe women should do the same.
• 26:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think we wouldn't have so many problems if we chose from a place of knowing what we need versus our trauma.
• 27:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm choosing a person if you look at, when people, when I have on right put I put it like this, when you haven't write something on a list, tell me what you want.
• 27:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Don't tell me what you didn't get in your last relationships.
• 27:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: They can tell me what those things are.
• 27:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, to be honest with you, the things that you didn't get will tell you what you need.
• 27:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: because you start digging at your court.
• 27:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like for me, loyalty is up there like oxygen for me.
• 27:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, come on.
• 27:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's loyalty and kindness, if you get a kind man, you don't have to ask for all of the other things.
• 27:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: You get a loyal man.
• 27:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: You don't have to ask for all of the long list.
• 27:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's shortens your list.
• 27:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: So for me, my list is only like, I think it's on the back floor.
• 27:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: four things on my list because I know what encompasses those things.
• 27:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, lifestyle, you got to match my lifestyle.
• 27:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: He has to be kind.
• 27:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of different things that come in there with kindness.
• 27:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody, all the dudes on the back like, okay, one, two, whatever.
• 27:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but that's the thing.
• 27:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I got two out of four.
• 27:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's kindness, but then a lot of dudes, they get kindness and nice mixed up.
• 28:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I despise nice men.
• 28:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: 94 he told me that 89 90 he said you know what's on said what's up he said man You know what difference between me and you you know what I'm saying I'm a good man.
• 28:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just not a nice guy.
• 28:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I see I don't like the nice guy.
• 28:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, see nice guy He's gonna put up with him shit.
• 28:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just ain't gonna put up with you understand me see the thing is the Bible say blessed on a piece Makers Not the peace keepers
• 28:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nice guy just won't keep peaks.
• 28:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Please make us a go to water, get the peaks.
• 28:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: But here's another thing about nice guys.
• 28:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Nice guys are only nice until they don't get what they want.
• 28:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
• 28:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Kindhearted people are just kindhearted, even if they don't get what they want.
• 28:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: So when man tells me, but I'm a nice guy, I've run, I've run the other way because I understand what that means.
• 28:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that for me, kindness, it encompasses so many different other areas of life that you have to have a kind heart to even have empathy.
• 29:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you can't just be a nice person because look at look at the people that you may have worked it with in in life corporate America Oh, they know start.
• 29:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: They so nice.
• 29:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: They so nice until it's time not to be nice until their head is on the chopping block That niceness goes completely out the door.
• 29:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: So anytime I hear man say he nice job Okay, what if he's just like he doesn't know the terminology and he's just like no
• 29:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm a nice guy, I'm a nice guy, I'm a nice guy.
• 29:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: The nice guy that doesn't get, he won't.
• 29:32
  [SPEAKER_06]: It's like, it's the point.
• 29:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's him.
• 29:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: I believe we have more nice men than we have kind men.
• 29:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: And the reason why I say that is, look at the violence against women.
• 29:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: When you look at the violence against women, kind people don't do that.
• 29:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: right?
• 29:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I believe a lot of people, and there's kind of nice women too, and you got to watch out for them, but I'm very big on a kind hearted man.
• 30:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: He just, he just moves differently.
• 30:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: And to me, with that, especially if he's a mature man, he just moves completely differently than those that don't have that.
• 30:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's just my thing.
• 30:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: So April, you know what
• 30:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: you know, you have coached men and women throughout the years.
• 30:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 30:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: One would ask, why would an April Mason be single when she has all of this information?
• 30:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't you believe the pinnacle of the game would be seeing the person who knows all represent a relationship that she's coached people through.
• 30:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: I totally agree.
• 30:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: However, I have been married.
• 30:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I have had kids because, you know, the Kevin Samuel said that.
• 30:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I said, and I told him I said, Kevin, I'm no different to you.
• 30:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just only been married once.
• 30:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: How many was Kevin?
• 30:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I believe he was married twice.
• 30:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he was worth it.
• 30:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: And he had his kids.
• 30:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's a good news.
• 30:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm like, so I was married, and I had kids.
• 30:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I've given my contribution to society already.
• 31:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: So what's the difference?
• 31:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like you a modern woman.
• 31:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, but I've done the things that I done them early in my 20s.
• 31:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: And here's the thing for me.
• 31:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't pressed to be in a relationship.
• 31:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Once,
• 31:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: What people don't know, a lot of them don't know is I had my first child at 18, five days before our turn 19.
• 31:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I became an empty nest in my 40s.
• 31:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: My very first apartment was with a child and I got married.
• 31:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've done those things.
• 31:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so because I put it like this.
• 31:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of us buy houses from villagers and the villagers don't own homes.
• 31:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Does that mean that they don't know what they taught me about?
• 31:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: It does not.
• 31:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: So for me, I was not pressed to be in a relationship just because I understand human connection.
• 31:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've been studying human connections since I was in the 10th grade.
• 31:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: So being fascinated with how people connect, if anybody actually pick up a book to really dive into it, they can know what I know.
• 31:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've just been given a different level of Gabelive understanding and how to make it come together.
• 32:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I wasn't pressed to be in a relationship, and there's never been a lack of options.
• 32:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: But actually, I will say, I'm glad I didn't.
• 32:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Why are you so glad that you didn't?
• 32:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because I got, became an empty nest in my forties.
• 32:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's some things I wanted to do as a single woman for my legacy, which was by a house, cannish, which I did that a couple years ago.
• 32:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Being married to someone by an house cash for your children and grandchildren, that ain't gonna fly too well.
• 32:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, there might be some that may, but for me at the time, I'm like, no, my grandmother made the mistake and sold all of the land and the property that my grandfather left.
• 32:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: So we didn't have a house like grandma's house.
• 32:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I bought a house.
• 32:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's the house that I bought in Ohio.
• 32:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that's the house.
• 32:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: So now, like for instance,
• 32:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: us not having a family house.
• 32:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: My one of my family members recently had a situation and he didn't have a place to be.
• 32:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I pay cash for the house.
• 32:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: You don't have to worry about nothing.
• 33:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Go there and get your life together.
• 33:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: I got this big old house.
• 33:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm hardly ever there.
• 33:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that was I was something that I needed to do for myself.
• 33:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: After that, I did it.
• 33:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: I said, okay, I did this piece.
• 33:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: I have now.
• 33:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's almost like I restored with my grandmother.
• 33:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: The mistake that she made because now my house is that house.
• 33:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Curse breaker list.
• 33:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
• 33:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so from there, I was going through Perry Minipals.
• 33:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now I'm going to say that we're going to talk about this.
• 33:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Here.
• 33:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to talk about this.
• 33:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about this.
• 33:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about this.
• 33:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about this.
• 33:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Paul's way.
• 33:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was made a turn.
• 33:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
• 33:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to connect it all for you.
• 33:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: So.
• 33:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: going through Perry menopause as a woman.
• 33:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's the stage before you get to menopause.
• 33:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's when your estrogen testosterone and progesterone decline.
• 33:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 33:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm going to start talking about this more because I know there's so many women that want relationships, but one day we do in the next day we don't.
• 33:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: One day we love you.
• 33:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: The next day we don't.
• 33:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's because our hormones are fluctuating.
• 33:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is why I tell married women at this stage and the game is when most women file for divorce.
• 34:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm saying, let's get your hormones under control first and then see if you really need to divorce.
• 34:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because you're going up and down, up and down and then what I don't want you to do is
• 34:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: not realize what's going on in the relationship can be fixed between you and you and him because your hormones are out of whack.
• 34:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I got a quiz.
• 34:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: What age do they start?
• 34:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because somebody like crazy is here about 38.
• 34:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: That wouldn't.
• 34:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it can start.
• 34:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: My start early, my start and I didn't realize it.
• 34:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like it's something that I wouldn't wish on nobody.
• 34:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: because imagine being this vibrant woman, you're doing your thing, you're living your life, everything you're excited about life, and then one day, you can't get out of the bed.
• 34:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, so for me, when my book Identity Switch came out, I was at the height of everything.
• 34:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was only thing I did that year was a TED talk because I couldn't do anything else, and nobody knew.
• 34:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I was going through the Perry Minipause to where I can only had enough energy to get up in the morning, take a shower, watch my face brush my teeth, put my clothes on and get back in the bed.
• 35:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, any time anybody saw me like in a red carpet gown or doing an event, understand, it took me knowing about the event and ahead of time to be ready for it.
• 35:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then when I would come home, I'm taking everything off and it's like, I can't do anything.
• 35:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it would take me like doing something like this back then, I would have to have another five days to recoup because I would have given so much because I didn't have any reserves.
• 35:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, what I've done,
• 35:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: In my younger years, I pushed past my stress triggers.
• 35:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I kept going and going, and your body finally said,
• 35:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: sit down.
• 35:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you won't do what I'm going to do it for you.
• 35:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: So from 2022 at the height of everything, that's when I did the boss-up conference, we were in Rawls.
• 35:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: And everybody, the TEDx talk everything, I couldn't do anymore.
• 35:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I kind of was like, how can I maneuver, how can I, and I just didn't have the strength to do it.
• 35:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: So imagine trying to date somebody.
• 35:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I had several suitors doing the time.
• 36:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Imagine trying to date somebody.
• 36:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: And
• 36:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I want to see you for two days, but I'm okay when I say you for three weeks.
• 36:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: That doesn't fly, so I really for all of the women that are watching.
• 36:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Please go get your homo checked before you just decide to say, you know what, I would rather be by myself, but then here come Christmas, oh my god, nobody's taking me home to meet that mama, because that's what we go through, and I believe a lot of women if they understood what their body is going through at this stage.
• 36:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: that we can make better decisions.
• 36:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: So for me, I just did the thing.
• 36:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: I went to get on some hormone replacement therapy child.
• 36:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I got my testosterone up.
• 36:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got your mind.
• 36:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Everything is balancing.
• 36:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: So now I'm able to do things like this, do a podcast, interviews, do television, and I declined so much.
• 36:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: And someone said, oh my God, you could have just pushed through it.
• 36:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, that's what got me here.
• 36:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Push in through.
• 36:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Push in through it.
• 36:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Good burnout.
• 36:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for sharing.
• 36:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, welcome.
• 36:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: So now I can date properly and be okay with saying you for multiple days at a time because he was two two on three Oh, no, two on five on five.
• 37:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I bring all the things.
• 37:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just got to ask you this.
• 37:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we all of these different hormones that women have to endure Yes, how do men get the bad rap of not necessarily understanding what's going on when y'all don't know what's going on
• 37:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
• 37:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry because we don't hear that often though.
• 37:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like yeah, I like to make jokes because this is entertainment.
• 37:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but we don't hear that often and there's so many men with so many questions marks like.
• 37:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, bro.
• 37:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like we was just cool and she just flew.
• 37:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and so then it goes that you start to go down this rabbit hole and I make no excuse for cheating.
• 37:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I make no excuse for seeing another.
• 37:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, why you're in a relationship.
• 37:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: But there's no longer a connection there.
• 37:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 37:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: But the truth is I think with this conversation, I think me and can kind of view it and they can jump back into their masculinity as a hero to say, man, this is just something that she has to go through.
• 38:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Cause there must have had no idea and on the contrary, as a man moving into the 40s, I had to look at my testosterone.
• 38:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Why am I feeling this way?
• 38:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I had to go in, you know, I'm blessed to have some really great doctors to say, hey, we're gonna pull this up, we're gonna do this this and this, to function cause a lot of men
• 38:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the truth is in the 40s and 50s, you know, God forbid, and I speak against it.
• 38:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: But that's when a lot of me introduced to, to end it all.
• 38:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
• 38:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
• 38:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so I would say to that, a lot of us didn't know.
• 38:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: So our mothers and grandmothers didn't teach us about Perry menopause.
• 38:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: They taught us about, oh, you're going to go through the change.
• 38:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: But they didn't have the term, they didn't have the terminology to be able to break that down.
• 38:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's only been like the last 10 years that we've been talking about Perry menopause.
• 38:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: And even Halle Berry has this petition going, had this petition going that women, especially in California, could start being covered.
• 38:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: This HRT is not covered typically by your insurance.
• 39:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you guys can get the little blue peel.
• 39:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: for young insurance, for when y'all have a little issues, natural issues in the AP area.
• 39:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: But we can't just go to the doctor and do the same.
• 39:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: So a lot of women were being prescribed when we would go through the stages in the past was anti-depressants for depression.
• 39:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's what it's counterproductive.
• 39:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
• 39:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's only been over though.
• 39:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would say the last 10 years that we've been seeing a heavy conversation about Perry menopause.
• 39:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would suggest for the men to get educated on it as well.
• 39:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just happened to be able to take the time to try to figure me out.
• 39:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Cause I'm like, am I crazy?
• 39:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Cause one day, I can stay up a 48 hours one day.
• 39:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, I'm just straight up, I'm energized.
• 39:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then it's like, I'm dragging out of bed.
• 39:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: So when I start getting blood work done, my testosterone came back undetectable.
• 39:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I didn't have none.
• 39:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, zero zone.
• 39:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was just crazy, but I had a lot of estrogen to why my doctor said, you're estrogen is like, you 20 years old, but you have no progesterone and no testosterone whatsoever, which testosterone gives you that ability to have a little bit more drive to get up and go, I had none of that.
• 40:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: So for me, I had to literally learn how to find what works for me.
• 40:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: So now I don't have no problem saying, yep,
• 40:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I get my, I put my little testosterone cream on.
• 40:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: I got the little estrogen pads and I take a pejester on peel at night.
• 40:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so I believe that learning those things about yourself even in the love, and when you in the love department, it'll help you out because you won't be fluctuating.
• 40:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I won't love and then I don't.
• 40:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then next thing you know, you binge watching stuff that's about your past and toxic.
• 40:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: People that talk to your pain because your hormones are out of whack.
• 40:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: But then you go to bed, crying, I wish I had some muscles and some biceps and some triceps.
• 40:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: But then the next day you get on your phone is like, yep, you gotta watch out for these men because you know they're older men, they look for hospice wives.
• 41:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Except yep, see, see, see.
• 41:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm talking about, let's do the whole thing.
• 41:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm talking about.
• 41:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
• 41:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: that's in the house that's going through this who may be unaware of period of minute pause.
• 41:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: How does he best serve a woman in a house where one day she's on one day she's off.
• 41:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like there's some parameters.
• 41:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: She's lying ready to, you know, she's been crawling in this moment and then she's just a little lamb the other, like how could a man, if you were married during that time serve you during that time?
• 41:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would have needed him to be a real gentle with me, but I needed him to ask the questions.
• 41:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: The things that he would have seen in me,
• 41:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't want them to just say to hell with it and just walk away.
• 41:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: It will be like, you know, babe, one day is this, one day is that.
• 42:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm pretty, I'm a pretty self-reflective woman.
• 42:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: And if I'm choosing a man, I'm not going to choose a man that just talking on the side of his neck.
• 42:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I would expect him to be of a higher level of his talent.
• 42:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because he's kind.
• 42:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because he's kind.
• 42:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I would offer so respect what he has to say because I chose him based on the things that are important to me, which is intelligence.
• 42:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: So as long as he presented it, like you know what babe, you've been different.
• 42:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then I would even be okay because I did, him say, babe, you know, you've been sexy, but you put on a few pounds.
• 42:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you put on a couple of pounds, but you're attitude one day is there's one day you like me, one day you don't.
• 42:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I like you a lot.
• 42:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I just want to figure this out.
• 42:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would be okay with that.
• 42:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would be okay with him saying, you know what, maybe you might be going through something.
• 42:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: We need to figure this out.
• 42:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then we go to the doctor together.
• 42:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: And we figure out, oh, because if you go to the proper doctor, how old are you?
• 42:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you 42?
• 43:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, let me see what's going on here, because you might be going through, you know, the onset of parry menopause, because you go through parry menopause typically 10 years before you even hit menopause.
• 43:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I would be okay with that, and then he go walk with me.
• 43:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Come on honey, let's go walk so we can be sexy together.
• 43:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 43:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I will be okay with that, but it's even men being aware that if you're dealing with a woman that's in her forties, sometimes I think I started going through it at maybe like like you said 38, because that's when I started noticing different changes.
• 43:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then noticing those changes and it forgot for bid, the woman had a he's directed me like I did.
• 43:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: You don't have the parts anymore.
• 43:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: The gauge would have been if a woman didn't have a cycle for 12 months.
• 43:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, you after your husband, you don't have a cycle anyway So you don't know what's going on.
• 43:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: So having a man that knows I'll just a little he ain't got to know everything Just a taste.
• 43:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I cannot just do this.
• 43:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, man.
• 43:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't know what the hell going on, but on the other side of this camera right now We'd like
• 44:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate you educating the audience of me and that women because a lot of times what I'm noticing is what you're talking about with the men that I speak to in coach.
• 44:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is what they're going through and I could never speak to that.
• 44:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: because I did not know.
• 44:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I always tell people like literally once you're burning stretch, you can never go back to it to original.
• 44:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 44:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so, not that I know that I'm looking back because I had these strong borders.
• 44:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: These strong borders.
• 44:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's certain things you will not say to me.
• 44:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I, you know, I know how to not say what a minute.
• 44:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not called to pin it no more.
• 44:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Go on by your business.
• 44:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you remember what you had me up at?
• 44:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's why I love you.
• 44:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you leave me right where you have me.
• 44:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm telling you right there.
• 44:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like right there, that's why I love you.
• 44:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: But now I'm going back to what they had me up it.
• 44:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, maybe that maybe that's what that was because it made no sense.
• 44:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's like one day.
• 44:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm just looking at it like this is the crazy movie I've never seen in my life.
• 45:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what yeah, we like I said.
• 45:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
• 45:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hold on one sec.
• 45:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: What the hell is it?
• 45:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can't see y'all, do you feel that good news and so another thing like men are wanting to be intimate with their woman So during that time you guys don't want to like now now now now now now now where's that a high six time Oh, yeah, let me just say this and since we we're gonna keep it a little PG Don't change this five.
• 45:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, PG 13 is fine Okay, right at I'll say this so
• 45:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would never want to be a man.
• 45:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 45:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'll give you my little backstory on my testosterone.
• 45:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, journey.
• 45:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I went and got testosterone.
• 45:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Once they told me I did not have any testosterone, couldn't even detect it.
• 45:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I went and got what they call the testosterone pellet where they cut you open like right here and they put it in.
• 45:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 45:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm sitting there.
• 46:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, okay, I didn't put the pellet in.
• 46:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm thinking this is gonna be good.
• 46:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna get the energy.
• 46:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you don't have the proper dosage,
• 46:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: it can make you want to have sex eight to 12 times a day to where you have to have a dude that can handle you.
• 46:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: If the dosage is not right and so I always tell women to make sure they go to somebody that understands how to level that out because you should at just one in you are really in it.
• 46:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: go ahead, finish going.
• 46:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 46:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: But it takes you to and you be having dreams about stuff that you don't be really in your regular life, you don't if you don't you don't have them kind of dreams.
• 46:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: So fellas, if your woman go get testosterone, you're going to have to go get some too because you're going to have to catch up.
• 46:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, if you want to catch up, or are we going to be looking at you like, you crazy, and then it becomes, well damn, girl, I gotta go to work.
• 47:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, well when you get back, it can, yeah.
• 47:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: But without it, without it, you don't get the testosterone.
• 47:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: If so, I'm speaking specifically to couples who may be unaware that this is actually going on.
• 47:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she just like,
• 47:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I just don't like you after two, three days.
• 47:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just don't like nothing about you and she doesn't know that she had this action steal or just think it all depends on the woman.
• 47:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: So if you were a woman who was sexually engaged anyway, it's going to lower that, but it doesn't take away the desire.
• 47:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: The desire just ain't.
• 47:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: it ain't where it used to be and then we might do it just to please you and that's okay.
• 47:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: It is but I this and that's what my doctor told me and this is to all my celibate ladies.
• 47:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not telling you not to be celibate.
• 47:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Please understand that.
• 47:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I have a male doctor and a female doctor and they made it very clear that a woman going through parry menopause should be having sex at least once to twice a week.
• 47:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: And this because it helps with the symptoms.
• 47:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so when I was going through my symptoms so bad, my married friends who are older than me, they wouldn't go on through the symptoms.
• 48:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Wait a minute, why are y'all not going through this and that?
• 48:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was like, we don't go through that because they're having sex regularly.
• 48:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I believe that
• 48:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: so that intimacy helps.
• 48:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it helps with whatever they'd help with, it do, and this is what my doctor told me, and then I confirmed that with two of my girlfriends that are married, and it was like, girl, I ain't going through what you go through.
• 48:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, you're like, I get out the bed and it's this and it's that, and it's like, I mean, my husband be doing all kinds of, like, they weren't having those issues.
• 48:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, they were having some, but it wasn't at the level that I was having it.
• 48:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so my doctors, they made it clear.
• 48:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: So when I got on the test, I was from the next time I was supposed to go back, I said, that look.
• 48:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: We can't do this because I ain't got no man.
• 48:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I ain't got no man.
• 48:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I won't be sleeping with.
• 48:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: I got some lenses, but none that I want to be sleeping with.
• 48:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because, you know, dating in sex is not the same thing to me.
• 48:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so from there, dating in sex is not the same to me.
• 48:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
• 48:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: So can you just date and then have a sex or date or package?
• 48:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's meaning if I'm vetting, I'm vetting, vetting doesn't equal sex.
• 49:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Equal sex, God.
• 49:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Not to me, it doesn't.
• 49:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, you can go out and you can have a good time.
• 49:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you can,
• 49:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: you can date multiple people, but that doesn't mean you have to have sex.
• 49:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: And because vetting process, in my opinion, doesn't equal sex.
• 49:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that's just April.
• 49:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: It is.
• 49:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's got only no script.
• 49:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't need no scriptures in the comments.
• 49:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was at the time during the cruise.
• 49:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't get the April is more to buy.
• 49:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I bet they did.
• 49:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm telling you.
• 49:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Anything on the 70s, little mama to me.
• 49:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, don't put your phone on K&J, but he messed me with all the wheelie mode.
• 49:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you, because that's how we feel about pensions.
• 49:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: I am fully functioning on all levels of the game without listening to the extra stuff.
• 49:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's how I feel about the, listen, do you want your pension taken?
• 49:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you do you want to share your pension and your retirement?
• 49:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, Mr. James, give it to you.
• 49:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, listen, if you go away, hey, yeah, I see will.
• 49:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Leave it alone.
• 49:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so I had a real question, but I think I just lost it, but I do have two after I actually did.
• 49:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
• 49:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Number one, thank you for sharing because I know, you know, a lot of times, you know, these small, ideal secret seeds that people don't like to talk about.
• 50:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: you know, um, and even men, you know, now ED is throwing around a whole lot and people, you know, you have medicine and all that.
• 50:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: When I was on the cruise, it's like, she told me, she said, yeah, these are all me and they can get the medicine.
• 50:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: But hey, they're in the hips don't work.
• 50:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I need some man that got into the hips can work.
• 50:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, why is she touching me?
• 50:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: My hips work, but not for you.
• 50:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Listen, so the thing is women we do go through are things.
• 50:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: But men are not top, not like that either.
• 50:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: So yes, you have to read the little blue pill.
• 50:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: But you still might be bitter.
• 50:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: You still might, you know, be living under a rock.
• 50:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: You don't want to go do nothing.
• 50:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you might be able to get the deep from him.
• 50:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: But then it's like, do I want to be around you?
• 50:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 50:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I got to say it, but I got to say this one now.
• 50:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 50:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: the way that younger men apply pressure needs to be studied.
• 50:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 50:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because the younger ones, it's equivalent to what I said about, it's only been like 10 years since really we've been talking about period and it's like over the last 10 years, it's become okay for men to talk about their emotions to be a little bit more emotional and intelligent.
• 51:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: So it's up here because I've gone out with younger and I- The younger is younger.
• 51:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can't do to you.
• 51:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I went out with somebody.
• 51:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was so sweet.
• 51:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was sweet and nice guy.
• 51:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was a coach.
• 51:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was definitely a kind man.
• 51:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was a kind man.
• 51:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was a kind man.
• 51:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: But.
• 51:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: My girlfriend, she, her husband is not your younger daughter.
• 51:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: She's like, I appreciate your younger.
• 51:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, girl, my son is 29, so my son is 29.
• 51:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: And there's a posture in my opinion that a younger man may have.
• 51:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: So when he's out when he was on TV, doing his thing, he's, he's ham, he's like that dude.
• 51:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: But when he gets comfortable, his posture became like my 29-year-old son.
• 51:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: My 24-year-old son.
• 51:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: It became like, oh.
• 51:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, slouchy.
• 51:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're like, yeah, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't, if you can't
• 52:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
• 52:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm in for you.
• 52:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Huh?
• 52:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: No step mom in for you.
• 52:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's not.
• 52:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's mental.
• 52:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's mental.
• 52:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: It all depends.
• 52:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: It all depends on the benefits he bring.
• 52:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like you said earlier.
• 52:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: It all depends.
• 52:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because it's some stuff.
• 52:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know what?
• 52:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: it all depends.
• 52:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: And perfect example of that.
• 52:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: My daughter was married and she got divorced and got remarried and hurt my current son of law.
• 52:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: I love him.
• 52:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: He wasn't looking for a woman that had three kids from her previous marriage, but because of what my daughter is to him.
• 52:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: He made that concession and just like she made a concession because he had two younger kids.
• 52:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I won't say that they have to be wrong kids.
• 52:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I would say depends on the benefit that he adds to my life.
• 53:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like you know what,
• 53:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Did they live with you or did they live with their mama?
• 53:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: They live with their mama most of the time?
• 53:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, he has to be out of benefit.
• 53:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: When I say a benefit, it has to be something that's on my core needs list.
• 53:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: It can't just be a want.
• 53:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: It has to be, he is his embodiment of who he is, feels the need, his presence, feels a particular need.
• 53:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: So we heard younger.
• 53:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Would you go white or another?
• 53:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so what happened was,
• 53:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: because I know you move way out there.
• 53:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 53:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, when you didn't, and you didn't move the, like, Cleveland, that was the thing.
• 53:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you weren't the Cleveland, I was like, yeah, somebody who's playing the lead, but you went to, like, rural Ohio.
• 53:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and the white man out there, they love, like, ain't you got you, no one got you one on.
• 53:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so, here's the thing.
• 53:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: I like all men, and this is just an Aprilism, this is Aprilism.
• 53:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's got to go viral, I can feel it.
• 53:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you know, you're like the moment.
• 53:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Get the camera ready.
• 53:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: Go.
• 53:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: For me, I believe, because I'm a big believer in black love.
• 54:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: I believe that when you start, when you have children and you're at that stage where you want to build a family, black love all day.
• 54:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: When you're in a position like I'm in, I've had black love, I've had the marriage, I've had the children, you can do whatever you want to do.
• 54:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's just a me and may not sound right, but that's a me thing.
• 54:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: However, there's just something about a black man that I, I think gets me a little bit better.
• 54:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, white men, they do approach differently than black men do, um, do expound.
• 54:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: So.
• 54:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: I, you, you know the type of men that I'm right.
• 54:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I remember, yeah, I was, I'm doing this for, for entertainment.
• 54:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
• 54:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you know what, you, you know the caliber, right?
• 54:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: What I find with white men versus black, white men don't care about the April Mason that they saw on internet, like they don't even, they, they more are looking to learn the little girl within.
• 54:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: They don't, that's cute that you do that.
• 55:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's wonderful, but I want to know you whereas a lot of times,
• 55:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: with the black man, and you know, I'm not a, what do you call, what's the word I'm looking for?
• 55:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Emasculating kind.
• 55:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: No.
• 55:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: No.
• 55:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't even... All of this strong, you have, I've never seen you.
• 55:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm not, because I don't lead with those things.
• 55:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Most people, unless they know what I do, they don't, they don't know what I do.
• 55:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: And with black men, black men will look.
• 55:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: from across the room all day, day.
• 55:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Don't say no.
• 55:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Don't say no.
• 55:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I went to one of my friends.
• 55:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you know Jack Daniels, not the lick.
• 55:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: I used to know Jack Daniels.
• 55:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not him.
• 55:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: What?
• 55:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: No him better than I should.
• 55:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he has my, he's a good friend of mine up almost 20 years.
• 55:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: He has a, he has an organization here called Good Man's Club.
• 55:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: So he invited me to one of the events.
• 55:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I went.
• 55:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: So he was like, okay, for him, because everybody trying to play matchmaking would be now now that I've told them that I'm, I'm a hormones and a control.
• 55:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm ready to dive in.
• 55:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: So he's trying to play matchmaker.
• 56:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: But you had to shout again eight times, you ready to dive in to do.
• 56:06
  [UNKNOWN]: Shh.
• 56:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: There was a guy there that he was only all night, so he walked me to my car and jacked over in the corner like, yes, yeah, he's a go away.
• 56:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's a good one.
• 56:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: He walks me to my car and we get to talking and then I leave Jack calls like how did it go?
• 56:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: I said, what a hole.
• 56:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: He said, the guy because he was talking about you to me all night.
• 56:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I said, he walked me to my car.
• 56:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: He said, so y'all in exchange numbers.
• 56:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: I said, he didn't ask.
• 56:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: So Jack went back in because Jack called me right from the event.
• 56:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: He went back in and asked the guy, why you didn't ask her for your number?
• 56:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: He said, well, I didn't want to press it the first time that I saw her.
• 56:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: So the next time, there is no next time.
• 56:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'll stand.
• 56:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so I find that the brothers would look all day.
• 56:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: They would look, like, they would look, and see, and that's, I love you said that.
• 56:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: If a man doesn't apply pressure?
• 56:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, hold on one second.
• 56:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let me talk to him.
• 57:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let me be right back.
• 57:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Huh, you heard what she just said.
• 57:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm so tired of you being passive because that other relationship don't talk that dog up out of you.
• 57:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Huh, you got to get over there and you listen, store practices and then the grocery store.
• 57:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking about this girl business on my side, baby, you beautiful.
• 57:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I ain't seen a beauty like this in a few years.
• 57:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: What's your name?
• 57:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: My name is like, you got to get out there and do what you have to do.
• 57:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: See, young man ain't got as much trauma as you tonight.
• 57:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, hey, we all here having a good time.
• 57:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: But fellas, you, you haven't got to talk out of your, your bike.
• 57:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And women are looking for a man who's actually going to initiate the conversation.
• 57:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And social media and then got you full, big dog.
• 57:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like getting on somebody, commenting, having big balls on their own neck.
• 57:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's so much different than walking to somebody and looking right in the eye and telling exactly what you think of them and what you need and what you want from them.
• 57:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I want you just to do this.
• 57:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, you heard the woman.
• 57:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: See, I ain't beautiful woman.
• 57:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: She said, I'm young boys coming over there with that bite.
• 57:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: So get your bite right now back to my regularly scheduled program.
• 57:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's because I do like older men.
• 58:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: I typically like a more mature man, but the a lot of fighting they look they will they will literally look and they're always they always very respectful and all of that but I like a man that applies pressure like so I have four male friends and guys they gotta understand when you have a quality top tier male friends you're just doing things like
• 58:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: the basic stuff, you gotta go beyond that because my circle of the men and my family and the men that I'm around, they do those things.
• 58:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: So sometimes a man can think, because he's opening your doors.
• 58:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: He take you out to eat.
• 58:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: I go out to eat the nice places by myself.
• 58:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: That fried lobster in capitol.
• 58:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: What's my favorite?
• 58:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: What do pressure look like for you?
• 58:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not that I won't.
• 58:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: For me, choir reminds one another.
• 58:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: For me, I don't want no.
• 58:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: For me, press.
• 58:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you know, it was big for me.
• 58:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm, I'm, I'm a tell to fellas.
• 58:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I said this before.
• 58:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I've said it over over the years in social media.
• 59:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: A man who is consistent is sexy as hell.
• 59:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I got that poor right.
• 59:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: A man that puts in effort.
• 59:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: his patterns line up, his actions and his words all come together.
• 59:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: That right there, for me, is applying pressure because as women in the ladies, that's watching, I'm sure they would say you'll get one or two, but you don't get, they drop the ball.
• 59:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like they'll say, you know, I want to take you out with it, my plans.
• 59:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you can't, you can't expect a woman who has solid men in her life.
• 59:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: to give you any type of leeway because this is normal behavior.
• 59:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, when I'm out with whether it's Bobby, Kenny, Jack, in several of my male friends, they're married.
• 59:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: They open my card door, getting in and out of the card.
• 59:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's just a part of what I've always had.
• 59:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've got that growing up.
• 59:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you open in my door, I'm thankful for that.
• 59:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm always gonna be appreciative, but that don't mean you like me.
• 59:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, and I think a lot of times men think that because they're doing things, oh, you called, oh, you know what?
• 1:00:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Will it?
• 1:00:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: Can you help me with my car?
• 1:00:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, I might help you with your car.
• 1:00:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: To me, that don't mean Willie like me.
• 1:00:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: That means Willie helped me with my car like any other man I would ask.
• 1:00:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of times men think because they do little things for you, that's showing you that they like you.
• 1:00:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: But if all the men in your lot of her life does those things, what makes you stand apart?
• 1:00:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: And the only thing for me that lets me know a man likes me is his mouth.
• 1:00:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: He got to tell me.
• 1:00:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you got to tell you.
• 1:00:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you cannot start off trying to be my friend.
• 1:00:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, because the friends aren't, I need to put their pressure from them.
• 1:00:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, when I put you in the friends on, you are in jail for the rest of your life, unless you make a bold statement, be like, look, I know we've been friends, but this ain't what I want.
• 1:00:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then you present yourself in a more sexy, attractive, more romantic type of way, it might change.
• 1:00:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: But typically it don't, it don't when you get put in there if you don't open your mouth.
• 1:00:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: So when I say I don't want to man that's start off with my friend, I want to man who shows me he's romantically attracted to me and wants to get to know me, then we become friends.
• 1:01:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: But if you come in talking to me my friend, I'm gonna make you a friend.
• 1:01:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna start telling you about the other man I was just when I went.
• 1:01:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'm sorry.
• 1:01:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, so I went out Thursday.
• 1:01:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm so mad.
• 1:01:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what to do.
• 1:01:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how to heard about three-fold dates.
• 1:01:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like, well, I'm praying for you.
• 1:01:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, like, listen, I might this new guy and he getting his feelings.
• 1:01:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Why are you mad?
• 1:01:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: How you going out with somebody else?
• 1:01:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: Why would I not?
• 1:01:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you don't, if you do not open your mouth, I am not a mind reader.
• 1:01:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: You have to verbally tell me.
• 1:01:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Listen, I want to get to know you and this is what I want to do and then from there We've started building a friendship if if it's the filling is mutual then if we go and take it a step further But if it's not we're gonna respectfully just stay with what we what we are and that's okay, too So I just believe that men You know, well, I can't speak of all women.
• 1:01:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: You got to apply pressure if you don't apply pressure I don't know nothing if you don't open your mouths.
• 1:01:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know anything pressure
• 1:02:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: And we write mature women like the pressure.
• 1:02:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now a lot of y'all, so why y'all like what?
• 1:02:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm too, so yeah, it's like the play like you don't like the pressure.
• 1:02:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like he just, oh, you know, no, no, mature women don't.
• 1:02:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: We like a man that knows exactly what he wants and that is us.
• 1:02:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let me be honest with you.
• 1:02:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna tell you another reason why.
• 1:02:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got on the man, but let me get on the women too.
• 1:02:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: We live in Atlanta.
• 1:02:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: These women apply, just as much pressure as me and go on.
• 1:02:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I know that, but that's not what I'm talking about.
• 1:02:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: Those aren't, there's different levels of woman.
• 1:02:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's a whole different demographic.
• 1:02:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: When you start dealing with a grown mature woman who, I mean, there's a line of pressure.
• 1:02:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, we reciprocate.
• 1:02:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: They don't initiate.
• 1:02:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: No.
• 1:02:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Are you sure?
• 1:02:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: My initiation could be what I call my four-second stare if you don't catch it.
• 1:02:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: then you just didn't catch it, but I'm not gonna go over it.
• 1:02:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: And hey, so what's your name, what's your sign?
• 1:02:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, but I'm not doing that.
• 1:02:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're not doing that.
• 1:02:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, okay, you, right?
• 1:02:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Cause my friend, right?
• 1:02:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was with me.
• 1:02:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was like, you can catch it.
• 1:02:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, no, I was married for a long time, bro.
• 1:03:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, I don't catch it a lot of times.
• 1:03:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: It did, it did the girl.
• 1:03:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: She was all stage.
• 1:03:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: She was one of the kind of famous singer with that man.
• 1:03:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: She was like, Willy, I look back and right.
• 1:03:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh my, like, you got to be missing the past of this man.
• 1:03:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, like, I was like, no, it's just you.
• 1:03:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was like, because you're trying to get you something that you ain't going to never get.
• 1:03:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: We, that's all you're trying to do.
• 1:03:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: We're dropping the handkerchief.
• 1:03:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't believe in approaching a man.
• 1:03:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now I've been in such a way, where a man will keep walking by and he keep looking.
• 1:03:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you know, Willie, I'm a playful one.
• 1:03:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: And my hairstyle is yesterday.
• 1:03:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: She's like, go, you'd be planning to don't mean none.
• 1:03:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: You'd be getting people all round up and don't mean nothing.
• 1:03:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: But he kept walking by.
• 1:03:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so he walked by.
• 1:03:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I just said,
• 1:03:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know you want to say hi, because you keep coming over here.
• 1:03:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's a huh?
• 1:03:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: He said, how you know I was watching you I said, because I watched you watch me.
• 1:03:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: and how you doing.
• 1:03:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: And he just started blushing.
• 1:03:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, it ain't that hard.
• 1:03:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't want nothing, but I just wanted to play.
• 1:04:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: He had to play.
• 1:04:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: I had to play.
• 1:04:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's in me.
• 1:04:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a flirt.
• 1:04:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to even lie.
• 1:04:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it doesn't mean anything.
• 1:04:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: He wasn't flirted.
• 1:04:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know he was, but I ain't going to get locked up about it though.
• 1:04:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't know.
• 1:04:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how to become a business dude.
• 1:04:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: We all right.
• 1:04:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Put money on my books.
• 1:04:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: I ain't going to go to that young.
• 1:04:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: We ain't going to where about that.
• 1:04:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: So is there a age limit?
• 1:04:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to be in this season a little bit more open-minded.
• 1:04:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's one of the things that I love about.
• 1:04:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what you think boys got your little mind doing.
• 1:04:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: When I say a little when your eyes... No, that's what I do a little bit.
• 1:04:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
• 1:04:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought a twinkle in my spirit.
• 1:04:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: What's his name?
• 1:04:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: What's her name?
• 1:04:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't you know how you're in favor of this I'm a little brown white how long what I'm the fact You're the deflector Uh-huh, what's that man?
• 1:04:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, this ain't about me a show interview all the people on other side They share you did that Yeah, you know, I'm I'm attempting to learn from my audience my audience tells me hey will let them be the star of the show So I'm letting you know you right now, right?
• 1:05:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: No worries
• 1:05:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be obedient to what God says in my audience, and then to do with this number of God in this Morning, won't we always put God in?
• 1:05:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: What is good Lordy?
• 1:05:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
• 1:05:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the way we end up in the head.
• 1:05:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the flag.
• 1:05:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hard as hell too.
• 1:05:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway.
• 1:05:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
• 1:05:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, here's the thing.
• 1:05:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing.
• 1:05:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now that you are at this beautiful age of 50 and look in the maze, you've discovered so much about yourself, do you think that this is the second coming of April to be able to
• 1:05:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: insert information that the audience at large.
• 1:05:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just not hearing.
• 1:05:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've never heard any of this.
• 1:05:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Is there some more information in your bag that you're willing to present to an audience now?
• 1:05:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because it was about identity and femininity and I was like, maybe it's some stuff going on with us that we don't even know what's going on.
• 1:05:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I want to.
• 1:05:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: But my message is going to always start with identity, because whether it's relationship, whether it's money, whether it's the man, whether it's you, it's my core message, it's identity, the energy's has a bunch of tentacles that go with it.
• 1:06:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't know if I'd want to.
• 1:06:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm in my creative side right now.
• 1:06:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I have enough content out there that will last beyond the ends of time.
• 1:06:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: And right now in my play energy, my doctor literally once we figured out what was going on with me with this hormonal thing she gave me a prescription and I actually said it gave the prescription to my ladies on my social media yesterday she gave me a fun passion pleasure sexy and excitement prescription.
• 1:06:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm not really trying so like we.
• 1:06:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe an edible.
• 1:06:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, she's when we looked at all of my tests because I go to a functional medicine doctor here in Atlanta.
• 1:06:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: We looked at all of my tests and one of the things that we realized was my dopamine was not existent.
• 1:06:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was going through them.
• 1:06:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was doing the work.
• 1:06:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was being what you said teaching and trying to help others, but I wasn't having no real real excitement in my life.
• 1:07:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: So for me, it's all about the fun and the excitement.
• 1:07:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: I realized I've been working since I was 15 for 35 years.
• 1:07:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's I'm all about fun and passion and pleasure and doing passion projects.
• 1:07:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: One of the things that I did that I love is I would do my spoken word pieces and I would do music videos for them.
• 1:07:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I want to get back to that.
• 1:07:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now I'm going to always, love is going to always be wrapped around whatever I do because I'm just a lover girl at heart.
• 1:07:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't want to just be, I will just be teaching to always looking to help somebody.
• 1:07:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: I want to help myself.
• 1:07:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: That is so, that is so admirable.
• 1:07:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I want to help myself.
• 1:07:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, about me.
• 1:07:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's about fun.
• 1:07:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's why the man has to be somebody that likes to have fun and real spontaneity is big for me adventure.
• 1:07:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's just get up.
• 1:07:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: We ain't got no plans.
• 1:07:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's just get up and go do something.
• 1:07:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're going to you.
• 1:07:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: You definitely want to go a little younger.
• 1:07:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, 35.
• 1:07:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I came to the 35s.
• 1:07:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: They come water.
• 1:07:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you won't go 20, ain't you?
• 1:08:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, that's the 35, I've gone out with a 35 year old before.
• 1:08:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, about 30 sales is when I kind of mentally became like, all right, I'm a man.
• 1:08:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I don't know.
• 1:08:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: I got a 38 year old right now trying to come take me out.
• 1:08:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: That I'm in town.
• 1:08:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: I, it's just, when I look at him online, it's just like, he's handsome.
• 1:08:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: But he, he, I like that Billy D. Williams type.
• 1:08:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: That,
• 1:08:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Sean Connery kind of like that did he that's Eddie stage.
• 1:08:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I kind of like that unless he's younger And he has a soul.
• 1:08:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, so not understood, and his posture is not like my 27-year-old son Do you play do you play Madden?
• 1:08:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: The only game I can play is Mortal Kombat.
• 1:08:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I have never had a man beat me at Mortal Kombat.
• 1:08:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is not a follow-up.
• 1:08:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do you play NBA, NBA, two games?
• 1:08:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, do you do that?
• 1:08:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I got to ask.
• 1:08:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, so I don't want to go deep towards the end, but I do have to ask you this because it's been kind of sitting in my shan on that for a minute.
• 1:09:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: You talk about the little boy in me.
• 1:09:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you talk about the little girls.
• 1:09:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I've noticed that in your conversation you've made room for your little girl or their parts of the little girl that you're able to share with your partner or is that something the man is supposed to subconsciously discover.
• 1:09:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I believe that when you know what that little girl is, you can share her.
• 1:09:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: So for me, how does she feel safe enough to share?
• 1:09:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: So for me, this is how, and I learned this several years back about why I like the type of men that I like.
• 1:09:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: So my grandfather was my hero.
• 1:09:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was a big, like six foot, three, burly guy, very fit, but he had this masculine demeanor.
• 1:09:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I remember
• 1:09:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: we were I was a little girl and we were going to get the Christmas tree and I said can we stop and get some doughnuts?
• 1:09:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I had to be about six.
• 1:09:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was like yeah we can get some doughnuts.
• 1:09:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: My grandmother said no my grandfather said yes.
• 1:09:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: So we get the Christmas tree we would get up at five o'clock in the morning and go to the co-op downtown Berkeley and get the Christmas tree.
• 1:10:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: He says, but when we get in the house, put the doughnuts on the stove, and you can have them over done.
• 1:10:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: I put them on the stove, but I came, you know, I was little, I came back to check them.
• 1:10:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it was ants all over the stove.
• 1:10:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: I ran into a living room.
• 1:10:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was crying.
• 1:10:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: I was screaming on the doughnuts, the doughnuts.
• 1:10:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that big, burly man, that the world knew as Moses Mason sat me on his lap, and he got very tender with me.
• 1:10:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: And he said, what's wrong with Big Daddy's little girl?
• 1:10:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's the donuts, and he was like, you know what?
• 1:10:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Calm down, we gonna go get some more donuts when we finish with the tree.
• 1:10:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's my guy, because he was the world saw him as being that masculine man and that's what he is has to be to the world, but he had enough tenderness for me.
• 1:10:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: That right there, yeah, I'm a sucker for stuff like that.
• 1:10:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that little girl requires tenderness.
• 1:10:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
• 1:10:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: She requires tenderness.
• 1:10:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm, regardless of what people think, I am very sensitive.
• 1:11:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, very muscle.
• 1:11:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can do things that need to be.
• 1:11:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I am very sensitive.
• 1:11:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I can be, I can be a breath.
• 1:11:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm, I'm aware of my things.
• 1:11:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: And like I said, I'll ask you, is it hard?
• 1:11:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, is it soft?
• 1:11:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: No, it is anything I could do to get a yes.
• 1:11:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so I know those things about me, but I also know that I'm what's considered a lover girl, meaning when I'm being treated properly, all of that creativity, like for instance, my last relationship, we were actually having some disagreements and things weren't going away needed to go, but Valentine's Day came around.
• 1:11:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: And he came home and I decorate the house for Valentine's Day the way I do for Christmas.
• 1:11:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: So he didn't know what was going happen.
• 1:11:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: I know it's Valentine's Day.
• 1:11:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I guess I got a take her to dinner, but we ain't gonna talk.
• 1:11:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: And it was a lot of tension in the house.
• 1:11:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: But when he came home, it was hearts and things all over the house and it's like 50 balloons on the ceiling and him being who he was, I'd mentioned that I wanted to go to see mint condition.
• 1:11:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Those tickets had come out and sold out months ahead of time.
• 1:12:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: He said, okay, we'll go get dresses.
• 1:12:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: What were we going?
• 1:12:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: He said, you said you wanted to go to the concert.
• 1:12:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: So he had bought the tickets months in advance.
• 1:12:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: But at dinner, he said, I didn't know what we were going to do because I know we were having some issues.
• 1:12:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, me being what I am doesn't stop because you, my man, we have issues.
• 1:12:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't with whole because we're having issues.
• 1:12:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now, I still got that little attitude because we still got to fix it.
• 1:12:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I still got to have a little attitude because we got to fix it.
• 1:12:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: We got to fix it.
• 1:12:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: But the little girl in me is still the one that is festive and decorates the house and love the whole love thing, the whole nine.
• 1:12:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm doing that not just for you, that's a part of my little girl too.
• 1:12:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: So you get to experience the gift that I gave myself.
• 1:12:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: And but we still got to talk to dinner.
• 1:12:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: But we still got to talk to dinner.
• 1:12:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: We still have to talk to dinner.
• 1:12:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: We got plenty of clients, but we can, we can use some more, huh?
• 1:12:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have a business that you feel like aligns with this show?
• 1:12:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's family entertainment.
• 1:12:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's for people who've been through hurts, habits, hangups, and breakups, and they're journey to loving themselves more.
• 1:12:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing, does your organization or your business need a audience, maybe cut here?
• 1:13:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Does your business or organization need an audience that's extremely engaging in those?
• 1:13:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, this might be the place for you, but we are very selective on who we partner with.
• 1:13:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: The Bible says, how can two people walk together unless they agree?
• 1:13:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Another version says, how can two people walk together unless they agree on the direction in which they're going?
• 1:13:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: If there's some agreement, there may be an opportunity for you to advertise right here.
• 1:13:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead and click the little link in this YouTube description or just hit this email, yeah, right there, okay?
• 1:13:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, Melissa, it is, it is refreshing to hear a woman so in tune with herself and it is really refreshing kind of stepping out of my profession, but just as a as a friend to see, you know, I think I've known you now in, you know, more of an intimate space for the last five years,
• 1:14:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: is you know where the pinnacle of the thing is 22 now and you know and you doing your thing and I just moved and it done I was going through the voice you would always give like some really really good advice some of the stuff I had I definitely didn't want to hear
• 1:14:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't want to hear you at all because I got that one worked and I just wanted to tell you that and I used to be like the devil's alive Yeah, let's get it out of the way Um, but I just always appreciate your kindness and to see you being McDonald have this office like No, I'm gonna set it down like you're gonna go on the road You're gonna do something something's like no, I'm not I'm making room like for my man for my future for my and then to see you leave the scene
• 1:14:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now discovered that you went to Cincinnati, what's used me went to Ohio to build a family home and legacy, so your family will have refuge.
• 1:14:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: It speaks to the unselfish niche, like what you've done with your trauma, like people don't know you at home.
• 1:15:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: People don't know what you've been through, like people don't know where your heart is because they just see a beautiful face.
• 1:15:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I do appreciate you allowing me to know a lot of the things that have happened, feeling safe enough to share those things.
• 1:15:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think I just became even bigger fan as I'm moving to, you know, my later 40s moving into my 50s.
• 1:15:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like
• 1:15:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can love me more even more.
• 1:15:24
  [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
• 1:15:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because you look like, no, I love me.
• 1:15:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm gonna go do some spoken words.
• 1:15:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I got some other gifts in here that I want to use.
• 1:15:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I would tell you this, you know, it's one thing to have gifts and then there's another thing to have calling.
• 1:15:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: You've heard for years and years, even when you was a kid, the calling that's on your life.
• 1:15:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 1:15:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think, you know, God is still going to use you on Mike's across the world because this information most people are afraid to share.
• 1:15:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know what it is, feeling?
• 1:15:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's I met a place where I can pick and choose like before we just do things because this is the calling but the calling can be segmented in different ways.
• 1:16:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: So before it was a moustaches, I'm doing TV, I'm doing radio, I'm just out here on doing the thing.
• 1:16:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: And now it's, you know what, how does my body feel?
• 1:16:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: I check in what her first.
• 1:16:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Do you want to do this?
• 1:16:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let me check in.
• 1:16:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
• 1:16:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Do you want to do this?
• 1:16:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: How are you feeling?
• 1:16:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'd see how I feel before I give a yes, and at this stage, I have no problem with saying, no, no matter how much money is on the line.
• 1:16:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because if I'm not here, there is no April Mason to come on to show.
• 1:16:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: There is no April Mason to do to do any of these things.
• 1:16:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't have that
• 1:16:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: hustle, grime, mentality of, oh my god, all of these opportunities, I have a plethora of opportunities, but I believe they come to me, and I believe the type of clients that I get, because majority of the people that I work with are some of your favorite celebrities, athletes, and everybody else.
• 1:16:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that happens because they see that I, I don't care about those other.
• 1:16:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I want to see you.
• 1:16:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's, let's talk, don't, don't give me the guy on the stage.
• 1:16:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Don't give me her.
• 1:16:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let me see you.
• 1:16:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I only can get to that place because I see myself.
• 1:17:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, and I'm okay with saying, you know, I don't want to go out tonight or I do want to go out to let me how you feeling let me check in me first Hey, just do I want to do this.
• 1:17:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and then me don't want to do me don't want to do it.
• 1:17:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: I have no problem.
• 1:17:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: saying that.
• 1:17:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I do know my message is always going to be surrounded with the whole love thing because I am that girl.
• 1:17:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: However, how I do it, it may come in a completely different form because I want to get back to the things that I do.
• 1:17:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, the things that make me happy and make me thrive.
• 1:17:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: And but you're going to get some, you know, I can't help but get some nuggets.
• 1:17:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's just what it is.
• 1:17:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm not climbing somebody asked me the other day.
• 1:17:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: What keeps you motivated?
• 1:17:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I said, I don't live in a perpetual state of motivation.
• 1:17:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't have to always be doing something.
• 1:17:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can literally just be and be okay with that.
• 1:17:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: And healing my nervous system because when your nervous system isn't healed, when you start trying to just be your nervous system, you gotta be doing something, you gotta be doing something.
• 1:18:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't feel like I have to be doing something.
• 1:18:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like I can literally go home and not do nothing for three days and don't feel bad about it.
• 1:18:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm okay.
• 1:18:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey family listen let me just come here let me talk to you a little bit so come on when you when you why you added in this you a pool that camera and come by right here yep there you go that's good I know there was some things that
• 1:18:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: You heard that you were excited about and there were some things that you had a question mark about.
• 1:18:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: You heard us talk about the little boy and the little girl on the inside of us.
• 1:18:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: And many of you are the probably thing to yourself if you haven't done, you know, the internal work and the extensive reading and just taking a deep dive and who you are, that may seem a little confusing.
• 1:18:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: What are you talking about?
• 1:18:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: This isn't excuses.
• 1:18:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Some people use.
• 1:18:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: There are some situations that you've been through as a child that continue to play your future.
• 1:18:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes even our motivations come from that small child who may have been looked over, you know, traditionally I always tell you, I was adopted.
• 1:19:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I had this mindset of, man, they gotta know who I am.
• 1:19:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the truth is, as I took a deep dive, you know that 12 year old just wanted to show us biological mother what she missed out on.
• 1:19:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so success never felt really good to me because I was always chasing the next carrot.
• 1:19:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's just full transparency.
• 1:19:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: But now I live in a place where that little boy, when he decides to come up, I know how to work with him, I know how to nurture him, I know how to love him.
• 1:19:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so what I'm challenging you to do, I would prefer you get some therapy and read some books or what I have you, but because I know that you know God or at least are seeking the truth to Jesus Christ, is there a way to get off of our spiritual high horse and just like God, what a little boy and a little girl part to me that I've yet to discover.
• 1:19:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And when he shows you, maybe there's a reason besides premenopause that may need fixing.
• 1:20:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because sometimes that brokenness just continues to carry on, and we're bleeding on people who haven't cut us.
• 1:20:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I know it's a little challenge in the day.
• 1:20:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, I made a lot of jokes and made it really entertaining, but that little boy and that little girl on the inside of you actually need the voice.
• 1:20:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: And here she needs healing.
• 1:20:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: She needs to be understood, and it takes some time to do it.
• 1:20:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because I'll be honest with you, this love you more show came at a time when I was going through divorce.
• 1:20:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And when I look back now, I realize that I could take care of the little girl in her as long as that little girl wouldn't disrespect the little boy in me.
• 1:20:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the moment that that little boy in that little girl became ferocious with each other.
• 1:20:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Somebody had to leave and then I started to heal that little boy.
• 1:20:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I started to notice a little girl.
• 1:20:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: But then a little girl started to disrespect the man that I was becoming.
• 1:21:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's when the man had to make a strong decision.
• 1:21:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully you heal the little girl a little little boy.
• 1:21:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: So strong decisions don't have to be made.
• 1:21:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe you guys can stick together.
• 1:21:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do me a favor.
• 1:21:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: and don't forget to love yourself.
• 1:21:22
  [SPEAKER_05]: Boy.