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- 0:01Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, Welcome back to another episode of the
- 0:06so called Sports Analyst, Episode number thirty six. Josh, how you doing
- 0:11doing good? Man? Spurs went back to back games this week, so
- 0:14you know we're on the come up. What did I say last week?
- 0:16We're gonna go on a run. We had a little hiccup against the Rockets,
- 0:18so that's gonna happen sometimes. But you know, it's been a good
- 0:22week. I hope everyone's doing good. Can't wait to get into this pod.
- 0:25Yes, sir, not to mention the bulls, they've been doing that
- 0:28too. They're on the first first back to back win and over a month.
- 0:31Look at it, but look at us. Yeah, but you guys
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- 0:49likes sports. But all right, we're gonna go ahead and get into it
- 0:52like we always do. We're gonna go over the standings, and first we're
- 0:56gonna start with the Eastern Conference. And in the Eastern Conference, the one
- 0:59seed still the Boston Celtics. The two seed is now the Milwaukee Bucks,
- 1:03three is Cleveland, four is Orlando. Magic went all the way from seven
- 1:07to four. Nixt are five, Heat, six six or seven Pacers,
- 1:12eight Bulls, nine Hawks, ten. And then in the Western Conference we
- 1:18have the Timberwolves as a one seed, still Thunder as a two seed.
- 1:22Denver jumped to the three seed, Clippers to the four Pelicans moved to the
- 1:26five seed. Sons they moved to the sixth seed. Kings are the seventh
- 1:30seed, Maps are the eight seed Warriors are the nine seed. Lakers are
- 1:33the ten seeds. So not much movement in the Western Conference. But was
- 1:38there any surprise as far as in the Eastern Conference because the Bucks they jumped,
- 1:46the Magic they jumped up, the Pacers they fell, the Sixers they
- 1:49fell, the Heat went up. Was there a big surprise? I know
- 1:53it's just a week, but was there a big surprise to you? It's
- 1:59just weird still seeing the Magic at number four. I think that could be
- 2:04probably the biggest surprise because the Heat are gonna turn it up once the playoffs
- 2:07come around, and we're getting closer to the playoffs. So this is about
- 2:08the time where they start putting it down for real, and they're not gonna
- 2:13they don't. I appreciate they don't want to be a playing team again this
- 2:15year. And then as for the Sixers, they're just waiting for Joel and
- 2:20Be to get back, get back and get back into the fold so they
- 2:23can go back to winning basketball. We just started the pot. I'm not
- 2:29I'm not gonna make no dirty jokes. Just to start off, I was
- 2:32like, how you doing, how you're doing? Mo? Yeah, okay,
- 2:39okay, let's get to serious business here. So we're gonna give so
- 2:45like we always go over our our top games of the week that we went
- 2:49over. But I'm pretty sure there's a game that you want to bring up,
- 2:52So you go ahead. I know which game you're already gonna talk about.
- 2:57We're gonna talk about the Warriors absolutely getting clapped by the Boston Celtics gang
- 3:05bang style, getting it beat by nearly by fifty two points in this game.
- 3:10Sorry, I had to put it out there. How to say it?
- 3:13The freaking the war you just went? Sorry? How to do it?
- 3:19How to do it? The Warriors shot seven for forty one from the
- 3:24three, while the Celtics went twenty five for forty nine on fifty one percent
- 3:29shooting from the three point line. The Warriors for the longest time where the
- 3:34team were like, you live by the three, you died by the three.
- 3:37Well they died to that this day. They died in this game to
- 3:39the three. And Stephen Curry had went zero for nine from three point from
- 3:45from the three pointer, and that's zero percent. That's I think that's the
- 3:49first time in his career he ever went zero percent from three or like first
- 3:53time in I forgot and how many years that they said, Yeah, I
- 3:57don't know what's going on with this Warriors team. I get they're still in
- 4:00the race for that little playing area, but losing a game like this,
- 4:03I get you. You can bounce back. It's only a regular season game.
- 4:08But Guinea be by fifty two points when you're when you have Stephen Curry,
- 4:12Klay Thompson still, Draymond Green, you have Steve Kerr as your coach,
- 4:15kitting be by fifty two points something that should not happen. Yeah,
- 4:18no, I agree with you. And it's again the Warriors game plan.
- 4:24Before Steve Kerr and Draymond Green they talked about it. They said, we're
- 4:28gonna sag off of Jalen Brown and we're gonna let him shoot. If this
- 4:31was any other year, that would have been perfectly fine. But Jylen Brown,
- 4:35he's having the best year of his career by far. So that's just
- 4:40that that just makes no sense to me. And it showed with Jaylen Brown
- 4:44having eighteen first quarter points. And one thing that I liked about this is
- 4:50that Jason Tatum, the biggest thing that I've been talking about is as far
- 4:55as Ken Jason Tatum, Ken Jalen Brown, I know they're gonna still their
- 5:00jump shots. They don't want to drive to the rack, but can they
- 5:02at least get close get the high percentage mid range shots. And that's what
- 5:06they started doing. And if they can continue this into the postseason where okay,
- 5:13we're gonna just get those easy mid range shots and try to get to
- 5:15the basket, then that's going to be a formula for success. It's not
- 5:20a matter of their defense. Their defense has been there ever since they made
- 5:27it to the finals that year. It's just a matter of their offense.
- 5:30And their offense if it could click like this, nobody's gonna stop them.
- 5:34And another stat is that so the Celtics. When they were on their eleven
- 5:41game win streak, their average win was by twenty two points. So that
- 5:46just shows how dominant they really have been during this stretch. And I know
- 5:51the Warriors, you kind of mentioned it a little bit. They still had
- 5:55Step, they still had played, they still had Draymond, And we're not
- 5:59gonna to talk about tonight's game much. But do you think this is gonna
- 6:02be a good step for them? Because every once in a while a team
- 6:09they needs this. So do you think this is good or this is gonna
- 6:12be the demise of the Warriors? I feel like, honestly, I think
- 6:19it could lead to the demise. Honestly because Stephen Curry over the laste literally
- 6:25probably since they lost to the Toronto Raptors and the championship has been everything about
- 6:30this team has been completely on his shoulders, and I think they're just doing
- 6:34too much. They know they have probably the greatest point guard to ever live,
- 6:38and they're just throwing everything on his shoulders and hoping he can carry them
- 6:42all the way to the Promised Land. But that's just not how it's gonna
- 6:44work. They haven't surrounded him with the real pieces that he needs. Because
- 6:47if you go back to those championship teams, even before Katie, they still
- 6:50have strong bench lineups. They had Sean Livingston coming off, David West coming
- 6:56off, Andrew boguet Win healthy like they had squads coming off that bench.
- 7:00Yeah, and then that let alone, the starters were with Clay and his
- 7:04prime, Draymond and his prime, so they surrounded him with pieces. Right
- 7:09now, these pieces just don't feel the same. I understanding. You have
- 7:11a young squad with Jonathan Kamena leading the way, but they're just not matching
- 7:15the energy night in a night out that Steph needs for this team to be
- 7:18really to really compete in when playoffs come around. So I know this is
- 7:25kind of off topic here, but where do you think the Warriors that go
- 7:30this offseason? Do you think they should Obviously you still have a top five
- 7:33player in the league and Steph Curry top five, top ten. I'm not
- 7:36trying to argue right now, but do you still keep trying to go all
- 7:41in or do you just say, hey, this sounds crazy, but trading
- 7:46away Steph Curry where you could get plenty of first round picks, you get
- 7:50yourself a future ship off Draymond Green, Klay Thompson, and you could restart.
- 7:56You already have young pieces in Jonathan Kaminga and Moses move Moody who do
- 8:01look like bright spots now, So what do you think they should do exactly
- 8:07here? I honestly believe that you kind of have to blow it up.
- 8:11Like the time, the run that they had all together was great, it
- 8:15was cool. But unless you can keep replenishing pieces, which I don't think
- 8:20they have in my opinion, yeah, you can't keep it going. You're
- 8:24gonna have to sacrifice something, whether that's Draymond, whether it's Clay, whether
- 8:28it's Steph. Because you just resigned Steve Kirk to that massive contract to be
- 8:31your head coach foreseeable future, so you're already locked in with him. It's
- 8:35just a matter of who do you want to be there next year? And
- 8:39I'm pretty sure Steph. They're gonna try their hardest in any way or shape
- 8:41or form to have Stephan Curry as a Golden State Warrior for the rest of
- 8:45his career. But as far as the other two, Draymond and Clay,
- 8:48I think they might be on different teams next season. Man, well,
- 8:54all right, let's go ahead and get onto this next game, in which
- 8:58I'll let you bring it up because this is the second game he wanted to
- 9:01talk about. I'm ready to talk about. Cheeks did not get clapped in
- 9:07this game. It was defense battle all the way, Clippers versus the Timberwolves.
- 9:11Clippers beat the Timberwolves eighty nine to eighty eight to improve to thirty nine
- 9:16and twenty and dropping the Timberwolves to forty two and nineteen. Well that's the
- 9:20records now, my bad. I don't know why I'm saying that, but
- 9:24all in all, it was just really a great showing from Kawhi Leonard for
- 9:31the Clippers with thirty two points and Anthony Edwards on the other side with twenty
- 9:33seven, and the rest was just everyone filling in and playing defense. It
- 9:37was you don't get We don't get games like this often in the NBA anymore,
- 9:43so I thought it was just something cool to bring up where the low
- 9:45scoring was happening. It almost felt like mid early two thousands, late nineties
- 9:50basketball. So h that's cool. But what I like to see see is
- 9:54Kawhi Leonard taking I understand that he only went twelve for twenty six. This
- 10:00is a clear cut the guy that they're going to no matter what, and
- 10:03that's Kawhi Leonard because he took if you take twenty six shots in this game,
- 10:07he still scored thirty two and they were able to eke out the win.
- 10:11I think it just shows that if he's healthy and he's on that this
- 10:13team can do quite a bit, because, like we were saying earlier,
- 10:16they do have some of the better perimeter defenders in the NBA, if not
- 10:22the best primiter defenders in the NBA win on the court. The only thing
- 10:24that sucks is they lose Russell Westbrook, which is a great boost to your
- 10:31second team when you need him to come off the bench. Yeah, if
- 10:35Kawhi Leonard can continue to stay healthy and Paul George can pick it up a
- 10:39little bit, this team, this Clippers team, is going to be a
- 10:41little bit scary, especially taking out the number one team in the West at
- 10:45in a defensive battle, who is also the number one team defensively this season.
- 10:48Yeah, yeah, I agree with you. It just shows that the
- 10:50Clippers they have different ways to play basketball games. They don't have to score
- 10:58over one hundred and fifty ten points a game and rely on the threes and
- 11:03and just elite perimeter well, obviously this is elite perimeter defense, but as
- 11:09far as elite offensive play. But one thing that I like from this game
- 11:13is that James Harden, even though he did not I believe he didn't score
- 11:18at all. I believe he had zero points, but he had ten assists
- 11:22here. It just showed that he's actually willing to be the point guard here.
- 11:28Compared to in Brooklyn or Philadelphia, He's he's really embraced his full role.
- 11:35Not saying he didn't in there, but he's even to a better extent
- 11:39because he has Paul George, he has Kawhi there and if he can do
- 11:45that this, this is where there's gonna be open looks for James Harden in
- 11:48this playoff run. And like you said, he's really gonna need to step
- 11:52up because with Russell Westbrook out that that's a spark, that's a six man
- 11:56right there. So the far as the point guard duties, it's really going
- 12:01to be on his back. But as far as with the Temberwolves here,
- 12:07a thing that I harped on last game is that or last week, is
- 12:11that their late game offense and their half court offense is terrible. And in
- 12:16the playoffs. That's all it is. It's just half court offense. Can
- 12:20you get your best It's not necessarily as far as as far as okay,
- 12:26if he makes a shot, if he makes a shot, whatever, whatever,
- 12:28it's as far as can you get your best, best look and your
- 12:33best play in the best situations or the most important situations. And the Timberwolves
- 12:39they can't do that, So, Josh. As far as clutch offense,
- 12:43the Timberwolves, they ranked twenty first in the league, so that's very disgusting.
- 12:50And they had a fifteen point lead in this game. I don't know
- 12:52if you knew that well. And this is they obviously blew a fifteen point
- 13:00lead. Now they're tied in the league for the most fifteen fifteen point blown
- 13:03leads up there with the Birds. Sorry, sorry right there, Hey number
- 13:09one is something, baby, let's go. But yeah, it's just their
- 13:18offense. It just becomes stagnant. And I know we harp on Jason Tatum.
- 13:22I gotta I gotta keep the same energy. So I keep saying,
- 13:26as far as Jason Tatum, he needs to get to the rack because he's
- 13:31so physically and gifted as far as getting to the rack and Anthony Edwards is
- 13:39exactly the same, but all he does is rely on jump shots. He's
- 13:43a jump shooter and he shouldn't be doing that. He should be able to
- 13:46get to the rack at ease. So it's just something can they figure this
- 13:52out? Because if not one of those the eight seed, if they go
- 13:58from the one, two, three, that looks most likely right there.
- 14:01But if they fall in between there, it's gonna look really scary for them.
- 14:07And as far as I'm trying, I'm trying to put this the right
- 14:15way. So as far as with the Clippers, Paul George, he just
- 14:18got back and they were kind of on a rough stretch for a little bit.
- 14:24So do you think now after the All Star break, because the Clippers
- 14:28they're always an up and down team even throughout this regular season. Here before
- 14:31the All Star break, do you think that do you think that they're starting
- 14:35to rise up now? I think so. I think with a veteran team
- 14:41like this, you tend the risk guys to start the season so they don't
- 14:45get burnt out, and then towards the season you start really upping up.
- 14:48Why do I say it, start ramping up the return to play, start
- 14:52ramping up the actual like in game practices. I mean, they're not practicing
- 14:56their in game, real live games. But for players like they have,
- 15:01all the veterans they have, these are players that are just winding up for
- 15:03the playoffs, knowing that they're about to play their best basketball when it matters
- 15:07the most. And I think that's what they're doing that where we see Paul
- 15:09George and Kawhi and James Harden kind of accept their roles and then and execute
- 15:16them to the best of their ability. And I know they would love it
- 15:18more if they had Russell Westbrook, I bet, because they were doing probably
- 15:20they were doing the same thing Russ Westbrook coming off the bench. They were
- 15:22ramping him up. But as far as those three, that's enough to win
- 15:28a lot of games. And so yeah, I think I think the Clippers
- 15:33are going to start hitting their stride pretty well going into the playoffs. And
- 15:35if they can, and we're always gonna say this with these three you go
- 15:39with, especially the team Paul George and Kawhi Leonard, if they can stay
- 15:41healthy, they're gonna be a problem for a lot of teams to match up
- 15:45against. And then they just need some help. I think coming off the
- 15:48bench Norman Powell really stepped up with that twenty four points off the bench in
- 15:52this game. He was the second leading scorer for this team. If they
- 15:56can get production like that for their bench, then they're gonna be a pretty
- 16:02a pretty tough team to out. Yeah, I agree with you, but
- 16:06let's move on to this next game right here. The next game we're gonna
- 16:14have because the Denver Nuggets for the Los Angeles Lakers Lakers, where the Denver
- 16:18Nuggets won one four to one fourteen. The main reason I wanted to talk
- 16:22about this game is because the Lakers have lost eight straight games to the Denver
- 16:29Nuggets. I don't know, like this is a team that we see the
- 16:33Lakers with Lebron ad and we expect them to be there when it matters.
- 16:38A lot of us do. But if they can't beat the team that matters
- 16:42the most most seasons for the last couple of years, then are they really
- 16:45a team that we should take serious? Because obviously the Nuggets do not fear
- 16:48the Lakers up to this point, they have their number at always about it.
- 16:53In this game, Michael Porter Junior step up with twenty five points and
- 16:57ten rebounds, got along with four assists. He passed the rock a little
- 17:00bit. Michael Porter never slung the rock rock. He swung the rock in
- 17:03this game a little bit. Then you're gonna have Nikola Yogas doing Nicola Jokics
- 17:07thing thirty five points with along with ten rebounds and seven assists. And then
- 17:11Jamal Murray, even though he's up and down with injury, had a really
- 17:15good game in this one with twenty four points. But the biggest part is
- 17:18eleven assists and six rebounds. We don't see a lot of a lot of
- 17:22that sometimes from Jamal Murray, but when he's a dishing the rock like this,
- 17:25and especially to Michael Porter Junior when he gets hot, the Snuggets team's
- 17:27super scary to play. Yeah, And it's so weird to me because before
- 17:33this game, where they brought it up during this broadcast, is that the
- 17:38Lakers are Before that game, they were eighteen and six in clutch time situations.
- 17:44So it's not like they've been a bad clutch time team. It's just
- 17:48against the Denver Nuggets every single time, they outplay them in the moments that
- 17:52matter the most. And these well, majority of these games. I can't
- 17:56go back to all eight games, but I can go back to the Western
- 18:00Conference Finals in the first game this season, They've all been close. It's
- 18:04just when there's four or three to four minutes left, Jamal Murray and Nikola
- 18:10Jokics, they just outplay Lebron and AD. And I don't know what it
- 18:14is Lebron and AD against any other team in crunch time, they take over.
- 18:21It's just the Nuggets. The Nuggets. They are their kryptonite. And
- 18:25this sounds crazy, but I have more confidence in the Lakers now after this,
- 18:30after this game and after this stretch that they kind of had as far
- 18:34as we're not going to talk about it, but as far as against the
- 18:37Clippers and against the Wizards the next night, as far as they're able to
- 18:41beat all of these other teams in clutch time situations, it's just the Nuggets.
- 18:48And so the Nuggets are the three seeds. So even if the Lakers
- 18:52they make it all the way into the play in, they'd be eight seed,
- 18:56so they wouldn't have to go through them till the Western Conference Finals.
- 19:00So it it's honestly a good thing that I for me because the Lakers there,
- 19:07they're able to step up. It's not a situation where they don't at
- 19:11least show up. They're at least showing up in the games. It's just
- 19:15they just can't beat the Nuggets. That's what it is. It's just their
- 19:18kryptonite, that's it. And one thing I wanted to ask you about this
- 19:25is that so Cam Reddish he got left in the game over D'Angelo Russell,
- 19:30and which D'Angel Russell he was cooking? So what did you feel about that?
- 19:34Because Cam Reddish is quote unquote the better defender and d loo is a
- 19:38better offensive player, but Cam reddis still got cooked in this game. So
- 19:42what do you feel about that? Right there? I don't know what it
- 19:47is. I think I alluded to it a couple of pods ago. Also
- 19:51about D'Angelo Russell, ever since the Brooklyn Nets All Star year he had,
- 19:56he has no one has trusted him. I don't know what it is,
- 20:00or I don't know if he's snitching on Swaggy p. But everyone else,
- 20:04every team that he's been on has gotten rid of him or they trying to
- 20:08try reasons to keep him off the court. And I honestly, I think
- 20:11the Cam Reddish experiment that people still hold on to because they what kind of
- 20:17high school player he was, and then with the kind of player he was
- 20:19at Duke, I think a lot of people still expect him to live up
- 20:22to that hype and he just hasn't. While d'angela Russell, I understand,
- 20:26defensively has never been that consistent, but offensively, besides the rough stretch he
- 20:32had at the beginning and the end of last year, he's been a pretty
- 20:34good twenty point guaranteed player in the NBA throughout his career. It's just I
- 20:41just feel like some teams just I just feel like he's not he shouldn't be
- 20:45in the first option, but he should. I don't know how to put
- 20:51it. I just don't know what was wrong with D'Angel Russell that teams don't
- 20:53trust him, and putting Cam Reddish who Also when you take D'Angel Russell all,
- 21:00you're also losing points. And in games like this when the other team
- 21:03is hot, you need players like that that can actually that can kind of
- 21:07get their own shots sometimes, and Cameron just hasn't proven that in the NBA
- 21:10that he can do that. M Yeah, yeah, I agree with you,
- 21:14and and de'angel Russell, if I'm not mistaken, he had eighteen anywhere
- 21:18or seventeen or twenty points in this game. If I'm not mistaken, I
- 21:22can't think of it seventeen. So yeah, that that just makes no sense
- 21:27to me. I feel like Darvin Ham sometimes he just tries to outthink himself,
- 21:32tries to make the too good of a move if that makes He has
- 21:36Spencer Dinwiddie on the court for twenty minutes and he only has scored three points.
- 21:40Yeah, okay, yeah, it just just proves that point in Mike
- 21:44Malone, he's one of the best coaches or oh is that it? Do
- 21:48you think Mike Mike Malone's the best coach in the league right now? No?
- 21:53You don't think so? Okay, now, okay, take out Greg,
- 22:00take out Greg Popovich. Who's the best coach in the league? I
- 22:06kind of I guess we'd have to say Mike Malone. Based off consistency,
- 22:10you're and you're out, he's the second best coach in the NBA. So
- 22:15yeah, I'll give that to him. You know, he just won a
- 22:18championship. Cool one is awesome. Tell me when you do five? All
- 22:21right, and we're back. We had major technical difficulties his his wife I
- 22:27started as the my marks Mike started messing up. But we're jamming out to
- 22:33Drake where I was mostly singing, So we're good. Don't worry. We
- 22:37had some we had some elevated music gone. But yeah, last week talking
- 22:41about Mike Malone as far as coaching, no disrespect to any Nuggets fans,
- 22:48But all right, we're gonna just move on to this next next game right
- 22:51here, in which it was the three games that I wanted to talk about.
- 22:56First one, it was a Thunder versus the Lakers, and which the
- 22:59Thunder they lost one oh four to one to sixteen after being up eighteen to
- 23:03six. It was a back to back, so kind of tough. But
- 23:07Josh, anything you wanted to take away from this one, we kind of
- 23:12touched on it in the last In the last game, we were talking about
- 23:18with the Lakers and how certain teams that they can play better against. They
- 23:23played better against every team except for the Nuggets, and in this game it
- 23:26showed they played well against a very strong Thunder team. But what hurts the
- 23:30Thunder is inside is an inside presence most of the time, and Anthony Davis
- 23:37pretty much took advantage of that. And then what we were talking about D'Angel
- 23:41Russell being a scorer. Well, in this game he had twenty six points
- 23:44and I think that made the difference. Yeah, it definitely did. And
- 23:48this is where it's going to really depend for the Thunder as far as how
- 23:53far they could go into the playoffs, because it's not necessarily they're not a
- 23:57physical team, but as just teams are mostly bigger than them, and they're
- 24:02only seven footer is chet Holmgren. He's and he's a very thin player that
- 24:07he could get bodied pretty easily. Yeah, and he's a good shot blocker,
- 24:11but when people go into him is when he struggles. Yeah, I'm
- 24:18gonna just leave it at that. But two stats. I'm going over two
- 24:25stats, two stats that I want to bring up. So the Lakers had
- 24:30fifty five rebounds compared to the Thunder having thirty eight. And then the Thunder
- 24:34they had sixty two jump shots compared to the Lakers thirty seven. So that
- 24:38just shows the Lakers they're really a physical team against anybody besides the Denver Nuggets.
- 24:45It's just and you can't say, well, I know I brought up
- 24:49the back to back for the Thunder, but the Thunder off of back to
- 24:53back, say average over one hundred and twenty nine points a game, and
- 24:56they're the youngest team. They're one of the youngest teams in the league,
- 25:00the youngest starting lineup in the league. So there's not really any any excuses.
- 25:07So yeah, this just shows that the Lakers against any other team besides
- 25:11the Denver Nuggets, I guess that kind of carries on to what I was
- 25:15talking about earlier, is that is that the Lakers, they could be anybody
- 25:19else in the league except the Denver Nuggets. And that's that's a pretty damn
- 25:23good thing. And then this next game that I wanted to bring up,
- 25:27it was between the Clippers and the Bucks in which the Bucks that won one
- 25:32thirteen to one oh six, and Giannis he didn't even play and Dame he
- 25:36ended up dropping forty one points. Josh, anything you took away from this
- 25:41one, let's not also talk just about Dame. Bobby Porters off the bench
- 25:47scores twenty eight points. And the thing is that I have harped on about
- 25:52what would hurt the Clippers also is inside defense, because their perimeter defense,
- 25:59we said best one of the probably the best, if not top three,
- 26:03in the NBA. But when it comes to teams attacking them on, attacking
- 26:07them in the paint. That's where they struggled. And I think that's what
- 26:08Bobby Porters really took advantage of in this game when he was on the court,
- 26:12was really getting inside and creating a presence in there. And then I
- 26:18think it goes to show really good for the Bucks that even with out Giannis,
- 26:23they can rely upon someone like a Damian Lillard to take over when they
- 26:27need to when they need it to win, to win a meaningful basketball game.
- 26:33Yeah, and like you talked about what Bobby port is, So from
- 26:37when the Clippers they led seventy four to fifty nine to thirty seconds left,
- 26:42Damian Little and Bobby port Is by themselves outscored the Clippers thirty thirty two to
- 26:48twenty six. And Kawhi he was one for nine from that time and the
- 26:53Clippers they missed twelve threes in a row, so they just went I And
- 27:02one thing that I want to harp on from this game right here is that
- 27:06the Bucks defense. How how I kept bringing up as far as their biggest
- 27:11thing is going to be perimeter defense. Can they actually guard on the outside,
- 27:15and they've been stepping up to the challenge. Damian Lillard, he's more
- 27:18willing now, Patrick Beverley, he's always at scrappy, hard nos defender,
- 27:23and it's finally showing. And for about fifteen games that Doc Rivers has been
- 27:30there, they've been the ninth best defense in the league. And that's not
- 27:33a small sample size. It's about a quarter of the season that's or yeah,
- 27:40it's about a quarter of the season that's been played. So it's shown
- 27:44that Doc Rivers being there defensively helps. And another thing is I know I
- 27:52said at first what two weeks ago as far as the Clippers. As far
- 27:55as the Clippers, they have everything to make the championship. But this could
- 28:00be another reason why you say you don't trust the Clippers. It's because situations
- 28:04like this where they have the lead, and this has been their biggest downfall
- 28:10on years previous where they have leads in the playoffs, besides last year against
- 28:14Phoenix when they were overmatched. But they have leads and then their offense just
- 28:18goes stagnant. That's that's all it really is. But even to then,
- 28:25I think what hurts them also is the bench production. Like without that spark
- 28:30of Russell Westbrook, you're really getting nothing unless Norman Norman Powell can step up
- 28:34like he did in the previous game that we talked about, but seven,
- 28:41five, four, and six points all from each player, that this is
- 28:44not going to get done. You need someone that's gonna come off the bench
- 28:47and get into the double digit scoring that can that can keep the team afloat
- 28:49because I understand that they clutch wise, they got outscored, but it's a
- 28:56forty eight minute basketball game, and so if the bench player can step up
- 29:00even a little bit throughout this time, then then it would help this team
- 29:03out tremendously because no more pal going to for eight that that that and I
- 29:10think he may be their best bench player right now. It's not going to
- 29:14help them out. And he only scored six points in thirty four minutes.
- 29:18Yeah, that's gonna be the biggest thing. And I'm I don't know about
- 29:22you, but as far as PJ. Tucker, I'm surprised he's not being
- 29:26used at all. Really well, even Mason Plumbley. I think it's weird
- 29:30that Mason Plumbley is not even getting used because I understand he's not a great
- 29:33defender, but he can get rebounds and he's a and he's a usable scorer
- 29:37in the paint, I believe, especially watching him when he was playing for
- 29:41Charlotte, I think he was pretty good with the Charlotte Hornets. Don't understand
- 29:44why they're not utilizing him more when it comes off the bench production. Well,
- 29:48that's for them to figure out. And let's go ahead and move on
- 29:52to this next game right here, and which is one of the last games
- 29:56that we want to talk about. It was a Cleveland Cloud cavil Leers versus
- 30:00the Boston Celtics in which this the Celtics. They had a big lead to
- 30:04twenty two points to be exact, and the man Dean Wade Dean Wade if
- 30:11you don't know that name, now he's a household name. He scores twenty
- 30:15points in the fourth quarter and they come back and win one oh five to
- 30:19one oh four. Josh, do you think this is this show's more good
- 30:26about the Calves or more bad about the Celtics. More good about the Caves
- 30:32because Donovan Mitchell did not play in this game and they were still able to
- 30:34win this basketball game against the Boston Celtics. So you're playing the best team
- 30:41arguably in the NBA with the Boston Celtics record wise, they are, and
- 30:45you beat them without your top scorer and you have this production coming off the
- 30:49bench from Dean Wade and especially in the fourth quarter and clutch time, in
- 30:53a crunch time moment, I think that that has to do nothing would improve
- 30:57your confidence confidence as the Cleveland Layers. The only thing that sucks is they
- 31:00did lose Evan Mobley as of right now. So yeah, that's gonna be
- 31:06something to monitor because that's a big inside presence. He's good offensively, and
- 31:11yeah, that's really they're gonna mess out on two big things that they need.
- 31:15And as far as the Boston Celtics side, they're usually a pretty solid
- 31:21team all the way around. But in this game, the bench just did
- 31:23not match I believe the starters production. And then Derek White only scoring three
- 31:27points in this game in thirty five minutes, just not help this team out.
- 31:30Because he's really that I'm not gonna say, when Jason Tatum and Jalen
- 31:37Brown is out, is not really scoring the ball. And Derek White's kind
- 31:41of running with that second team as the point guard, they need him to
- 31:44really step up quite a bit. And going only scoring three points in thirty
- 31:48five minutes. It does not help out, especially when you lose by one
- 31:52that could have been a difference. Yeah, and I know you said it's
- 31:56about the Cavs right here, but I'm gonna actually go on the opposite sit
- 32:00in right here. As far as with the Celtics, especially after, it
- 32:05doesn't seem as if it would be an emotional win versus the Warriors, but
- 32:07I believe it is in which the Warriors, in which they blew them out
- 32:14the water, so they're just rising high and then next thing you know,
- 32:19they go up against the Cavs where it's like, all right, Donovan Mitchell's
- 32:22not there, we should be able to win this game. We've won eleven
- 32:24games in a row. And they got off to a hot start. They
- 32:29were up twenty two points. They were up twenty two points with nine minutes
- 32:31remaining, so they should have sealed the deal here, but they didn't.
- 32:36And kind of like with the Timberwolves, it's not as bad. But as
- 32:39far as with their offense laid in the game, can you get an easy
- 32:44basket? And through this eleven game win streak, they were getting those easy
- 32:47baskets. It's just can they consistently do it and you have to consistently do
- 32:52it in order to win a championship, and there's been positive strides, just
- 33:00things like this where it just makes you just second guess about the Celtics word
- 33:05take. Should we really trust the Celtics here? Should we really? Or
- 33:09is just this just the same old team with the same or having the best
- 33:14record in the league and end up underperforming in the playoffs. So yeah,
- 33:21and is there anything else or no? We have our honorable mention games here,
- 33:24So did you want to bring up yours first here? Yeah? I
- 33:35understand that we're supposed to be a non bias basketball sports podcast, but that's
- 33:38just not who we are with bands first team games. So we're gonna take
- 33:40a minute to talk about our teams for a second. I won't go too
- 33:45deep into the Pacers game, I understand, guys, I won't do it,
- 33:49but I will talk about this Thunder and Spurs game because Chet is basically
- 33:53a Victorium Migyama's bitch every time they play. I'm just gonna say that.
- 33:58But that's besides the point. That's really all I wanted to say. You
- 34:00know, Whomy just shows up game in game out does his job. If
- 34:05we can get pieces around him. You know, it's gonna be pretty scary.
- 34:07Uh. He had twenty eight points, seven assists, five blocks,
- 34:13ten rebounds, thirteen rebounds, and he when Chet thought he could get a
- 34:17little a little shaky, a little dancy on that boy, Wimby, Wimby
- 34:22just put his hands up to the heavens, grabbed that basketball and said,
- 34:23fuck out of here, bitch asz dude. You know. So, Yeah,
- 34:28that's really all I wanted to say. I understand we chat may never
- 34:30come on this podcast, but I don't care. I really don't care.
- 34:35So, you know, Victor Wimben Yama Dog And then I just think it
- 34:40shows pretty good what this team can be as far as the San Antonio Spurs,
- 34:45because in this game, we didn't turn over the basketball that much,
- 34:47and then Devin Facel stepped up this seam. This team is the youngest team
- 34:52in the NBA, the San Antonio Spurs, and things like this show put
- 34:57the potential they have. They just have to be able to put it on
- 34:58a night a night in night out bases. And one of the biggest things
- 35:01they struggle with his turnovers and they really limited that in this game. Yeah,
- 35:07and I really like what Devin Vassell did in this game. He actually
- 35:09looked like a viable number two option here. And do you think do you
- 35:15think that's something that they could trust down down the road here or not down
- 35:20the roads, but into next season. I think it is something they can
- 35:23trust because when I watched Devin Vessell play, he's if you look at the
- 35:28stats, he's one of the most efficient players in the NBA when it comes
- 35:30to shooting hit the It's really hard for put teams for the finish to block
- 35:35his shot because of the art how high he shoots the ball in the air,
- 35:38and he's a really good ISO player. It's just sometimes I feel like
- 35:43he takes too much of a step back when other players are on the court.
- 35:45And I really thinking when he really established himself as like the scorer when
- 35:50Wimby's off the corey or even when Wimby's on the court and he's hot,
- 35:53Devin Vessel is a pretty good tough player to stop. And I think if
- 35:57he can do that consistently going into next season, it's going to be pretty
- 36:00good for the Spurs. It's even as a going for the Spurs as a
- 36:04number two option or even maybe a three yeah, okay, so kind of
- 36:09off off topic here, but who's who's the number Who's the number one guy
- 36:15you'd want to get in the offseason. As far as for the Spurs,
- 36:19would it would you want to put a wing defender right by Wimby or would
- 36:23you want to put a point guard next to Wimby? I think we do
- 36:30need a I love Trey Jones honestly, Okay, I don't hate Trey Jones
- 36:37as a main point guard. And honestly, even in this game, he
- 36:40has seventeen eight a, seventeen eight assists, and six rebounds. That's pretty
- 36:45good production from your starting point guard whose role is to only play point guard.
- 36:49But the thing that's limits Tray Jones is he's limited as a scorer due
- 36:52to his size. He's not a very big player, a very big guy,
- 36:55so he it's hard for him to get to his spots consistently. And
- 37:00I think that's where we struggle a lot, especially when we had Dejonte.
- 37:02Who de Jonte is is I'm not gonna say a super crazy tall dude,
- 37:07but he's around the six to four area, longer arm, so he can
- 37:10really create separation with his body. And I think we really need that,
- 37:15But in my honest opinion, I think what would be more important would be
- 37:21another interior defender, because once Winby comes off the court, we are screwed,
- 37:25Like we are absolutely cooked. Zach Collins, I don't know what happened
- 37:30to him, just he started the season off good and then like he just
- 37:32decided to stop playing basketball for most of this And I also think we have
- 37:37a guy in Dominic Barlow who they keep put sitting down to the G league,
- 37:39and every time he's on the court with us in real NBA action,
- 37:42he's actually really productive a lot more than Zach Collins in my opinion. But
- 37:47yeah, I think I'd rather have an interior defender to also help win be
- 37:51out defensively. That's that's a different approach. Most people now always go with
- 37:57the point guard or Trey Young or something like that, but it was because
- 38:00those people don't watch the actual Spurs night in the night out. I'm okay
- 38:05with Trey Young and Devin Vesel handling the rock, but I am annoyed when
- 38:08when he comes off the court and Joel Embiid attacks and Alfred Sangun attack,
- 38:13are freaking interior defense and score thirty points or in Joel E. Bead's case,
- 38:20saying like fifty eight something points on us. You know, so I'd
- 38:25rather have an interior defender whoa that can shoot threes or mid range? That
- 38:34that's very who's the center? Realistically, that's not many you're you're talking.
- 38:43I would want a Miles Turner next to Victor wimbin Yama in my opinion,
- 38:49have or have Womby playing the four. Oh that that would be nice right
- 38:52there. No, but all right, as far as with my team here,
- 38:58the Chicago Bulls. First off, I want to say, coming back
- 39:02from twenty two points, if this is the best, this is the highlight
- 39:07of my Chicago Bulls season. Here, my Chicago Bulls fan year, it's
- 39:14Kobe White dropping his career high thirty seven points, seven assists, five rebounds,
- 39:19Debo doing Deebo things, thirty three points and then man shout out to
- 39:22him, man Io Desumu. This has been one of my one of those
- 39:28role players that I like, that's just that's just real gritty, real tough,
- 39:32doesn't really score the basketball real easy. But it looks like he's finally
- 39:36starting to develop his game. And I'm gonna stick with this. I'm gonna
- 39:42I'm gonna ride this way for probably like the next two weeks or so,
- 39:45so after the Kings and then this Jazz game right here, man, it's
- 39:49like I'm just walking on water right now. But as far as with this
- 39:53team where they should go, honestly, just rebuild this damn team here,
- 40:00I'm ready for it officially. I'm ready for the I'm ready for the rebuild.
- 40:04Just Deebo he's on his last year, Zach Lavine, just get rid
- 40:07of him. And Patrick Williams he's out for a while. So just let
- 40:12Kobe White just for this next year or so, just give him the full
- 40:15keys to the offense, because he actually looks like I wouldn't say all star,
- 40:21but he's on that brink, if that makes sense. He reminds me
- 40:23of what like Tyree Tyree s MAXI was last year, if that makes sense.
- 40:30So maybe he could end up being an All Star and we get trade
- 40:35value or something for him. But yeah, no, just just shout out
- 40:38to the bulls man, first time I get to say that on the podcast.
- 40:43Shout out to the bulls. Heck, yeah, but DeMar DeRos and
- 40:50ghostpurs go. But anything else you want to bring up before we go on
- 40:54to our next topic. No, because we might cover it later. So
- 41:01okay, let's keep moving. Yeah, all right, well you know what
- 41:07time it is. We always do this every single or probably for the last
- 41:12five six weeks or so, going back to the NFL A fantasy draft.
- 41:16And the criteria for this is players under thirty. That's that's the criteria for
- 41:23it. So no Lebron, no Steph, no KD no, none of
- 41:30those players. It's players under thirty, players that are going to be in
- 41:32the NBA for a while. So all right, Josh heads or tells heads?
- 41:43Okay, sirih flip a coin. It's tells shoes who you taking?
- 41:52Who you taking? Number one? Overall, give me a second, give
- 41:54me a second, man, Okay, I didn't. Okay, So I
- 42:00know great options out here. There is a lot of great options. Gary
- 42:06Harris, Kenrich Williams, Julius Randall, Ryan Arciacano, a bunch of good
- 42:14options. But let me let me write down. Let me write down all
- 42:20of this first. I forgot to write it down. Bro. Just take
- 42:23Kobe Waite and keep it moving, bro, I should. And then eight
- 42:28man rotation. I don't think I mentioned that, but eight man rotation.
- 42:31Deep. Okay, we could go we could go into bad rotation. We
- 42:38could go bad rotation. I'm telling you, I try. I try to
- 42:45have this this nice, clean mind. But this guy over here to my
- 42:52right, or if you're not listen, or if you're not watching this,
- 42:57this other guy talking always makes dirty jokes and I can't. I don't even
- 43:01do it intentionally. You're the one that, just like your mind is infested
- 43:06with this generation lustful thoughts. And okay, okay, let's get down to
- 43:14business here. I think I'm gonna have to do this. Give me,
- 43:17give me the color. Yokic at the five. I like it. I
- 43:24like it. Okay, I'm gonna go with Luca. Luca, where are
- 43:30you gonna put him at your point? The one? Okay? Okay,
- 43:38you're putting Yogage at the five? Correct? Yeah, I'm putting Yokic at
- 43:42the five. Okay. Then after that, I think I'm gonna have to
- 43:50I'm I'm gonna go Yiannis here nice or the four or the three? I'm
- 43:54gonna put him. I'm gonna put him at my four, all right,
- 44:00I'm gonna go Joel Embiid at my four. No, put him at my
- 44:07five at your five. Okay, yeah, okay, I need somebody that
- 44:14can guard Luca and can give buckets. So no, give me s g
- 44:21A here. I'm not gonna say you can guard him, but it's gonna
- 44:24be a good battle. Yeah okay, yeah, no, I'm not saying
- 44:29he's gonna all right him up. But now for my four. Everyone knew
- 44:31where this was going. Give me Victor woman Yama's Oh my gosh, you
- 44:37really did do it. I didn't think you're gonna do it. Boy,
- 44:42he's the best player in the NBA. Don't come at me, Cuh,
- 44:46I'm gonna be able to follow me. I knew he was gonna follow me.
- 44:51I'm torn right now. Chamezi Metsu or Matis stiebele mm tough choice.
- 44:57Is a defender, Bro, he's a defender. Don't say on the defense?
- 45:00Are you know you know what? Give me? Give me Jason Tatum
- 45:06here on my three? Good ship? Good ship? No, Bro,
- 45:12you're getting cooked, You're getting cooked. I'm gonna put his freaking I'm gonna
- 45:16put his his little kryptonite. Bro, I'm putting Scotty Barnes at the three
- 45:21cut. Really, Stardi Barnes, if you having Jason Tatum's number. Bro,
- 45:25Scottie Barnes is on. I'm gonna say it's on that ass every time
- 45:29they play bro. See you see like if you really watch ball, Scotti
- 45:37bars be taking it to Jason Tatum. Bro, maybe guard don't even let
- 45:42him score. Bro. All right, for my two right here, I
- 45:51feel like this is obvious. Give me Devin Booker here. Fuck dang,
- 45:55give me Bro. You're getting I thought he was slipped. Huh, you're
- 46:00getting cooked. Bro. It's all right. I'll put someone to stop that.
- 46:04I'll put Jalen Brown right there at my two bros getting cooked. To
- 46:07quit playing with me, man, quit playing with me. Okay, this
- 46:15this is where the real draft starts right here, this is where obviously the
- 46:19high profile names. Well, they're still gonna be high profile. Let me
- 46:22mark off where we're at my bad Yeah, I know we're and then you
- 46:29yeah, starting five? Okay, you got it? Yeah, Okay,
- 46:37So I'm thinking about right here. Give me give me Donovan Mitchell right here
- 46:47for my six man. That's a good pick. That's a good pick.
- 46:52It's gonna put Spider as my six man. H I need I need to
- 47:07spark off the bench. Give me Anthony Edwards is my sixth man. That's
- 47:10a nice pick. I was deciding between him and Anthony Edwards. Okay,
- 47:20okay, okay, okay, I need that dog coming off my bench.
- 47:24Wait Jojjah bull dog man. Imagine if you if you would have played football,
- 47:35that that would have been totally different. Well he said he could have
- 47:37played football. Well, pleas need a quarterback, right he was a quarterback?
- 47:42Yeah, I think so. Okay, I'm looking right now. Shout
- 47:50out to Basketball Reference, even though they won't ever probably hear this for a
- 47:53little bit, but you know what, give me, give me Jalen Brunson.
- 47:58I know it's a smaller backcourt, but yeah, gimme Jaylen Bronson could
- 48:00pick. I think I'm gonna keep like off the bench, and it's gonna
- 48:10be my tube, my one coming off the bench. Yeah, be Tyre's
- 48:14Halliburton Bro. It's gonna be Tyrese Bro. That's a nice pick. I
- 48:17completely forgot about Tyrese so for right here, I just I'm gonna just have
- 48:30somebody who's just a defender and who could just shoot threes here. Whoa he
- 48:37He's had spurts where he's scored forty point games. Give me Miles Bridges here,
- 48:45Miles Bridges. Oh wait, Michel Bridges. No, no, no,
- 48:49Michael Bridge. Michel like I knew you, like I knew you hated
- 48:52women. I knew you hated women. Okay, well, don't give me
- 48:57canceled out manh McHale breright. So michalere Brooklyn nets to be going to take
- 49:07Carl Anthony Towns and put him on my bench. That's a nice pick right
- 49:15there. Okay, So I basically got my one through three on the bench.
- 49:21I'm looking for my big men here, and you know what I think.
- 49:32I think I'm gonna just have to do it just based off of just
- 49:36pure talent. Give me, give me Zion here, Zion Williamson. Nice.
- 49:42Nice, And then I think I know who my last pick is gonna
- 49:46be here. I'm pretty no. I know I need a defender off the
- 49:52bench to guarantee lockdowns. So I'm gonna take Jaron Jackson Junior and put him
- 49:57at my nine, my nine spot. That's nice, just so I can
- 50:00have that defender. Okay. So I'm looking for a center here. I'm
- 50:10I'm looking for a center, somebody who's just just do it all type of
- 50:15guy, somebody who could just clamp up and good thing. I look through
- 50:21this part, give me bam out of bio. Here from my final spinte
- 50:24nice, My guy, my last guy coming off the bench at my tent
- 50:30spot is gonna do nothing but score buckets. And that's his only job on
- 50:34this team is to score buckets at will. It's gonna be Cam Thomas.
- 50:38Cam Thomas is gonna come on my tenth spot and all I need is a
- 50:42bucket. It's all I need is a bucket. And we know Cam Thomas
- 50:45is gonna get a bucket when he wants a bucket, and he's gonna he's
- 50:49gonna stop, look around, shrug your shoulders, just run back to defense
- 50:54like it don't matter. Cam Thomas is my It's like it's like when I
- 50:59need that big shot and they call big shot Rob, they called Steve Kerr,
- 51:04they call Derek Fisher, they call all the all the all the role
- 51:09players. That one job was hit, that hit that shot. I'm calling
- 51:13Cam Thomas on tap court just for that one shot. All right, we're
- 51:20gonna go ahead and list our teams here. So for my team, for
- 51:23the winning team right here, we have obviously s G A at the one.
- 51:30We have Devin Booker at the two, Jason Tatum at the three.
- 51:32You have let me change my last Let me change my last pick. Let
- 51:37me change my last pick. I was hoping you would have noticed, but
- 51:39all right, go ahead and change it. Give me Jamal Murray. Okay,
- 51:47see, I thought you're gonna take him or Darin n. Camp Thomas
- 51:53was like the emotional pick. But then I looked at my list, like,
- 51:57oh ship, Jamal Murray is still there. Honestly, I should have
- 52:00just paired them up because that's the one too. But yeah, I know,
- 52:02all right, as she had the one, Devin Booker at the two,
- 52:06Jason Tatum at the three, Giannis at the four, Jokic at the
- 52:09five, and then for your my bench is Jalen Brunson, Donovan Mitchell,
- 52:14McHale, Bridges, Zion Williamson and bam Adebayo. That sounds like, akay,
- 52:19that's winning team, all right. For my team, my team knows
- 52:22their roles. They play defense and they get the job done. My one,
- 52:29Luca, no way you can start with they play defense. I have
- 52:34one guy on this team that can't play defense. I have one guy on
- 52:37this team that can't play defense. Okay, I'm sorry, you just get
- 52:42you just get say this team plays bench is destroying your bench. Hell,
- 52:49okay, go ahead and listen your team, Go ahead, the listener team
- 52:52Luca, Jalen Brown, Scottie Barnes, Victor Winbin Yamas, Joel Embiid,
- 52:59Anthony Edwards, Tyrese Halliburton, Karl Anthony Towns, Jaron Jackson Junior, and
- 53:05Jamal Murray. Nah, Bro, you're getting rocked, bro. My team
- 53:10is easily Okay. Who stopped fucking Wimby Bro? Wimby Bro? Last time?
- 53:19They every time, the last two times they played. I think Jokic
- 53:22has only scored like six points on Wimby Bro. Okay, If Wimby is
- 53:28guarding Jokic, who's stopping Jannis Embiid Joel Embiid? Bro? All right,
- 53:36all right, this is a good Those are good matchups, bro. And
- 53:37you know, no, those are good matchups right there. That's why I
- 53:40had to get That's why I had to get Embiid on my team so he
- 53:44didn't have to play against Victor Wimben Yama. I knew what I was doing.
- 53:49No, I feel like Jogiciannis. That's no, that's o P and
- 53:53then okay, okay, say if Scottie Barnes, he does. We've seen
- 53:58Jannis and we've seen Giannis and we play against each other, and Wimby,
- 54:01I don't know, kind of kind of shut him down down low. I
- 54:07don't know. I'll have to look up that game right there? How many
- 54:09points he ends up scoring. I know that doesn't tell all the story.
- 54:13But no, but okay, okay, Luca, I'll give you Booker over
- 54:17Brown. I'll give you Booker over Brown, but Brown, Booker isn't guarding
- 54:22Jalen Brown. I mean, yeah, okay, it's like a yeah,
- 54:27it's a it's a yeah. That's a wash. That's a wash pairing.
- 54:30But Luca and Sga I get Ka don't play defense. But as point as
- 54:35he lets up, he's gonna make up for it. Yeah, you know
- 54:38you're right about that. No, it's just okay, I feel like the
- 54:43separation here is a bench. That's what I think it is for me,
- 54:45dude, My bench is better than yours. Bro, Nah ain't no way.
- 54:50Tyree's facilitating and scoring threes, Bro and being a defender. Tyrese haliburns
- 54:57like like the res ster of the second unit. And then Anthony Dog.
- 55:04Yeah have you seen Tyre's Halliburn play this year? Half? Who has a
- 55:07better record? That's who tyrusliber is a dog? BRO? And Anthony Edwards.
- 55:16Bro, who's guarding Anthony Edwards on the bench. Bro, who's guarding
- 55:19Anthony Edwards? Michael Bridges mickil Bridges is not guarding Anthony Edwards. Bro.
- 55:24And then Jamal Murray just being the sniper that he is. I don't even
- 55:28need Jamal Murray to do anything. I just seen him run around and catch
- 55:30and shoot Bro. That's all I need from Jamal Murray. No, I'm
- 55:34telling you just that. I feel like mine's just don't let us into the
- 55:37playoffs. Don't let us get into the playoffs. So Jamal Murray, I'm
- 55:40starting him, Okay, Okay, Then Conny Towns Loki might be the best
- 55:51player on both our benches. No, no, yeah, I don't know
- 56:00about you better, I said, I don't know. I'm talking about like,
- 56:07oh, you're right, Tyre is better than both of all those guys.
- 56:12Okay, I'll say this, you have the better you have the better
- 56:15bench, which slightly, but I feel like the starting lineup that's clear.
- 56:22That's where it clears yeah me, No, No, my team is better,
- 56:30bro, my off I have no weakness as far as on my starting
- 56:35lineup offense, defense, no matter what. If you have a weakness,
- 56:40yes, you're Luca, Luca. He cannot guard for ship. I don't
- 56:45trust Scottie Barnes locking down JT. So those are your perimeters. I've seen
- 56:52it, all right, Well, well we'll let everybody else decide, because
- 56:58I don't know. I feel like this is clear, but Winby versus embiid
- 57:01versus Giannis and Jokis would go crazy in no life, Bro, No,
- 57:05that would man, I would. I'd rather them do one on ones in
- 57:10the All Star I know that's off topic, but one on ones are an
- 57:13All Star games. Imagine Wimby against against it. Well, I don't know,
- 57:17Yanni's bless you, bless you. I don't feel like Giannis and kids
- 57:22they're not They're not much one on one players compared to Wimby. He's a
- 57:28one on one player if that, yeah, I don't know. But all
- 57:36right, let's let's go ahead and move on with easily the best defender on
- 57:39both on all our team. Mmmm over Shay. I'm not saying he's not
- 57:51up there. But well, I think Shae couldn't guard what Winmby could guard,
- 58:00what Windy could guard. Is shake guard fair? That that makes sense?
- 58:04Yeah, I say Shae couer guard about one through three, but that's
- 58:07only really that's really due to Wimby's just sized, like yeah, like he
- 58:12he's just a long defender. No, but yeah, let's go. Let's
- 58:17go to move on to this next topic right here, which it kind of
- 58:22goes into what we're we're talking about just a while ago, in which it's
- 58:27the top ten player. We kind of mentioned it last week, but as
- 58:30far as the top ten players in the league right now, we're not talking
- 58:34about as far as accolades or nothing, just as far as on their play
- 58:39this year. The top ten players in the league. And I think number
- 58:44one here it's consensus, So I'll go ahead and let you say number one
- 58:50here. Number one for me is going to be Luka Doncics. I understand
- 58:55his team is eight seed, thirty four and twenty eight, but what Luca
- 58:59is doing is just insane. This year. If they even somehow, I
- 59:02think honestly he might be the MVP, but won't win it, but he's
- 59:07gonna have He's averaging thirty four point six points per game, which is number
- 59:09one in the NBA, almost ten assists per game, and eight point two
- 59:14rebounds along with one point four Still, so when they say he can't guard,
- 59:15at least he's getting the ball at least one point four times a game.
- 59:20So you know, I think he's clearly the number one player in my
- 59:23opinion this season, and he's only he's just going crazier. He's scored seventy
- 59:28three this season, Like, come on, yeah, I don't disagree with
- 59:32that. And then for number two right here, I'm gonna have to put
- 59:37Sga just the way Sga he's been playing this entire year. Thirty one points,
- 59:42five and a half rebounds, six and a half assists, shooting fifty
- 59:45five percent from the field. This dude, he has no real weakness to
- 59:49his game. It used to be several years ago as far as his three
- 59:52point shot, but now he's knocking his threes down, and just the other
- 59:55day against the Suns he blocked Kevin Durant shot. It just shows he can
- 1:00:00guard. He can guard one through three, like I said, and still
- 1:00:04drop crazy amount of points on you every single time. It's almost a given
- 1:00:08now that he's going to drop thirty thirty points. There's a stat that I
- 1:00:13saw as far as what SGA he's doing. There's only been three players in
- 1:00:19NBA history to have thirty points a game, five assists, five rebounds,
- 1:00:24two stills a game on fifty percent shooting, and it's SGA this season.
- 1:00:30The other two people that have done it is twenty sixteen Stephen Curry, who
- 1:00:34is unanimous MVP, and then Michael Jordan. If you're in that company right
- 1:00:39there, then you're definitely a top two player in the league. So Josh,
- 1:00:45who's number two? For you? Honestly, this top three for me
- 1:00:51is interchangeable. There's not really a clear top three to me, but I'm
- 1:00:54gonna have to, I guess disagree, but not disagree number two on putting.
- 1:01:00I just think the consistency night in and night out for him, year
- 1:01:02in and year out. I understand it's not a year in year out ranking,
- 1:01:06but he just continues to do the same shit he always does. Twenty
- 1:01:09five points, twelve point three bounds, nine point two assists, along with
- 1:01:14third in the West, leading his team, and especially this goes to with
- 1:01:16Jamal Murray missing time and his team's being a little bit off, maybe a
- 1:01:20little fatigue, He's still stepping up night in and night out, and I
- 1:01:23it's crazy that this is that I guess with this not his ceiling, it
- 1:01:28would be his like floor. This is his floor year and in, year
- 1:01:30out. And if this is his floor, this is why he's arguably the
- 1:01:32best player in the NBA. Yeah, it's again, it's hard to disagree
- 1:01:37as far as with this top three because I have Lukash Jokic and then you
- 1:01:44have Shaye third, I believe if I'm correct, right, Yeah, I
- 1:01:49have SGA three a lot of for the same reasons you have. I just
- 1:01:52think his defense is really propelling him up my list quite a bit, especially
- 1:01:57that what was it he is He's guaranteed thirty points every single game, it
- 1:02:01seems like, and he's just doing great things, especially with the team he
- 1:02:06has around him. He's really leading those young group of guys to places that
- 1:02:10none a lot of us didn't think they would be able to make, and
- 1:02:13he's mainly the sole reason for it. Yeah, exactly. And again I'm
- 1:02:17not going to get too much as far as into Jokic, but it looks
- 1:02:21like Jokic he's going to win the MVP this year. He's my third best
- 1:02:24player in the league right now. Just offensively, he's ad it all type
- 1:02:30of guy. There's talk about somebody with no real weakness in their offense.
- 1:02:34That's Nicola Jokic. But as far as for four here, this is where
- 1:02:37we might start disagreeing. I have Gianni Sanetokumpo, and I know this may
- 1:02:44not be his MVP year or something like that, but this is the most
- 1:02:49offensive output he's put throughout his entire career. Thirty almost thirty one points a
- 1:02:53game, eleven rebounds, six assists, and then sixty two percent from the
- 1:02:58field. And he started to develop It's not something that could be like relied
- 1:03:04upon like SGA or Devin Booker, but somewhat of a mid range pull up
- 1:03:07shot. And that makes it scary because now you can't just just go up
- 1:03:12in the lane and just pray that you get a charge call. Now Gianni's
- 1:03:15he's starting to expand his game even more, and it's shown how so much
- 1:03:20he's gone offensively and defensively. Why do you know the challenge he presents as
- 1:03:23far as interior defense. That's why the Bucks are always year in and year
- 1:03:29out, one of the best defenses in the league, and that's why he's
- 1:03:31number four for me. Who's your fourth guy, Johannis? Also, uh,
- 1:03:37every reason you said the scoring this year, people may not be paying
- 1:03:43as much attention, but we are. And he's probably his best offensive season
- 1:03:45he's ever had in his career. And that's a little scary because he's only
- 1:03:49getting better as he's getting older. And he's not even that old, so
- 1:03:52it's it's pretty cool to see. He's pretty cool to see Janni's taking steps
- 1:03:57in his game and leading this Bucks team even when a lot of people were
- 1:03:59doubting little bit to start the season, but now they're Hey, they're second
- 1:04:01in the East now forty one and twenty one. Yeah, and so who's
- 1:04:05your who's your fifth player? I'm gonna go with Spider Mitchell in this one.
- 1:04:11I think he's beating the Cavs to a pretty good a pretty good,
- 1:04:14pretty good season so far. They're third in the West. They're gonna need
- 1:04:17a third in the East. They're gonna need him to step up a little
- 1:04:19bit more. Losing Evan Mobley and he and they're gonna stay a little bit
- 1:04:23more healthier. But he has he's averaging twenty eight points, five point four
- 1:04:27rebounds per game, and six point two assist, which is which is pretty
- 1:04:32good for Spider. The way that he plays. He he likes to throw
- 1:04:35up a lot of shots, but when he's making, when he's knocking them
- 1:04:38down, he's helping this Cavs team out tremendously. Yeah, so number five,
- 1:04:43I'm gonna have to disagree with you right here. I'm gonna have to
- 1:04:45go with Steph Curry and just Steph Curry. I know they may not have
- 1:04:49as many wins, and just what he's doing twenty seven points a game,
- 1:04:56five assists, forty five percent from the field, and forty from three.
- 1:05:00It's just something that you don't get used to seeing as far as Steph Curry
- 1:05:05shooting this much volume from the three and still scoring this many or still doing
- 1:05:12it so efficiently. And again, he may not be the best defensive player,
- 1:05:17but at least he's a willing defender. It's kind of like Luca,
- 1:05:21but not as much as far as he's gonna give up points, but he's
- 1:05:26gonna make up for that from how much he's scoring. And now more than
- 1:05:30ever this year, the Warriors team in general is just based upon Steph Curry.
- 1:05:35Steph Curry has a bad night, then the Warriors team isn't gonna do
- 1:05:40good. But if he has a good to great knight, nine times out
- 1:05:43of ten, they're gonna win the ballgame. So who's number six for you?
- 1:05:48Number six for me? I'm gonna go with Jayalen Brunson right here.
- 1:05:50I really love what he's doing with the New York Knicks. I think he's
- 1:05:55he's one of those onsung heroes in the NBA, like people don't really talk
- 1:05:58about just because he's not that big of a household name, but to a
- 1:06:00lot of people, they love watching him play basketball. And I'm one of
- 1:06:03the ones that love watching him play basketball. And this season he's averaging twenty
- 1:06:06seven point two points along with six points almost seven assists per game, and
- 1:06:12he's leading and he has his next team with the fifth best record in the
- 1:06:14East at thirty six and twenty six doesn't sound too great, but which you
- 1:06:16if you look at what he really has to deal with, Julius Randall being
- 1:06:20as inconsistent as he is, Mitchell Robinson being in and out of the lineup,
- 1:06:25and then trading away RJ. Barrett. It's really just been a Jalen
- 1:06:29Brunch and so leading this team to where they to where they're where they're at,
- 1:06:31and I'm gonna commend him on that. I'm gonna give him the six
- 1:06:34spot on my list. So I have Jalen Brunston in this in this list,
- 1:06:40but not as high. But I'm gonna go with Donovan Mitchell here again
- 1:06:45for the same reason that you pointed out, and I feel like he's really
- 1:06:48underappreciated and that whole trade that happened, everybody really looks it over because when
- 1:06:56the Cavaliers, when they didn't have Donovan Mitchell, they were a team that
- 1:07:00was struggling to make the playoffs. And now Donovan Mitchell he's just changed his
- 1:07:04culture around and now this is just a team that you expect to at least
- 1:07:09be a top four team in the East, and he's done that the past
- 1:07:12two years. We'll see as far as playoffs success wise, but yeah,
- 1:07:17Donovan Mitchell, he's definitely had one of the best best seasons this year.
- 1:07:21And as far as him just being a pure scorer, that's one of the
- 1:07:25guys that you could just count on. Who's your seventh best player here,
- 1:07:29Josh My seventh best player is gonna be Jason Tatum. He's averaged twenty seven
- 1:07:34points per game, eight point five rebounds, and four point in assists.
- 1:07:38I sure, I get, I get a lot of people may want the
- 1:07:41some of the numbers to be a little higher, but this his team's first
- 1:07:44in the Eastern Conference. I don't think we can be mad at his production
- 1:07:46because his production is obviously working. And then he also has Galen Brown who's
- 1:07:50also doing considerably well this season. The thing is they're they're doing great.
- 1:07:56He's consistent in in and now. I just want to see him get over
- 1:07:58that hump. So for me to be a real Jason Tatum believer, but
- 1:08:00this season, he's doing nothing but proving that he can lead a team.
- 1:08:05Yeah, so number seven I have right here. It's got to be KD
- 1:08:11And kind of for similar reasons to Steph. You kind of just start to
- 1:08:15expect it from from these type of players, and averaging twenty eight, seven
- 1:08:19and five is something that not many people do. It's kind of been warped
- 1:08:27as far as the perception of older players as far as they should be able
- 1:08:30to do this, But a thirty five year old should not be able to
- 1:08:33do this on a night to night basis, and either Devin Booker's been out
- 1:08:40or Bradley Bill has been out. So Kevin Durant, he's been the constant
- 1:08:43here and there's still a top five seed in the West in which it's very
- 1:08:48crowded, and that's mostly because Kevin Durant and how you could lean up on
- 1:08:53or lean up or depend on him on a night to night basis. And
- 1:08:58yeah, so far he's had He's had the seventh best season in the league
- 1:09:01so far. Who's eight for you? It for me is gonna be Anthony
- 1:09:06Edwards. Twenty six point one points, five point two rebounds, five point
- 1:09:11one assist. He's leading his team to the best record in the Western Conference
- 1:09:14for you three at nineteen and I don't think it goes it goes unnoticed.
- 1:09:18But his defensive numbers don't don't pop out a lot, but when you really
- 1:09:25watch the games, he's really one of the players that guards that perimeter very
- 1:09:28well for this Timberwolves team, which is leading them to the number one defense
- 1:09:30in the NBA behind Rudy Gobert. Also, but Anthony Edwards does his part
- 1:09:34on defense, but offensively he's he's one of the best. He's one of
- 1:09:38the better offensive players for me in the NBA, especially to watch. I
- 1:09:41think he does a very I think he's a very fun player to watch,
- 1:09:44and this season he's proving why he's taken that next step. I'm not saying
- 1:09:47to superstart him, but he's definitely turning himself into a star and a household
- 1:09:51name after this season. Yeah. So I'm gonna mention one of the guys
- 1:09:56that you brought up earlier, and it's Jason Tatum for me, Jason Tatum.
- 1:10:00I still don't know how this dude isn't in the MVP conversation. Twenty
- 1:10:05seven points a game, eight and a half rebounds, almost five assists,
- 1:10:10and having the number one seed in the East. Still, I know there's
- 1:10:15a lot of criticisms as far as the Celtics offense, but he still leads
- 1:10:21this offense to be the best offense in the league. And they may be
- 1:10:25jump shooting, but he could knock down those damn jump shots. So whether
- 1:10:30or not we like it or not, if it's olticol basketball or not,
- 1:10:33he's still making those shots. And again, just a two way defender,
- 1:10:39and it's just something that can't go unnoticed because this dude he's having a damn
- 1:10:44good year and he keeps getting better year in and year out, and he's
- 1:10:47definitely up there. And I feel like Jason Tatum, he could be argued
- 1:10:51as far as being in the five range in my opinion. So, Josh
- 1:10:57Or, who's the ninth player for you? Number nine for me is gonna
- 1:11:00be Kevin Durant. Twenty eight points, five point four rebounds, six point
- 1:11:04two assists. They're six in the Western Conference. I expect them to be
- 1:11:08a little bit higher thirty six and twenty six. But he's doing his job.
- 1:11:12And what's really good about Kevin Durant this year is that he's been available.
- 1:11:16He hasn't been hurt, yeah so far, and he's been playing,
- 1:11:19and he's been leading this team especially. I'm gonna give him the benefit of
- 1:11:23the doubt. Him and Devin Booker have really been carrying a team around them
- 1:11:26that, honestly, I don't believe it's fit to win the best NBA championship,
- 1:11:30but they're they're holding their own with the team, with the teammates they
- 1:11:32have around them, and and that's all behind the leadership of Kevin Durant.
- 1:11:38Yeah. So number nine right here, I have Jalen Brunson, and I
- 1:11:44know you have Jalen Brunson higher. It's just the biggest thing. Dam a
- 1:11:46little biased. At least you're honest about it. But no, Jalen Brunson,
- 1:11:54he's definitely had one of the better years this year. It's just as
- 1:11:57far as how he's been heard as of late. So I guess it's kind
- 1:12:00of recency bias. I haven't been able to or I haven't been able to
- 1:12:04see him play at full strength lately. I haven't been able to see Jaylen
- 1:12:09Brunton take over a game in a little bit, if that makes sense,
- 1:12:12because first you had Cleveland, then he had a next strain, now he
- 1:12:15has a knee contusion. So it's just it's just as far as he could
- 1:12:20be up there as far as top five, it's just more recency bias for
- 1:12:25me compared to all of these other guys right here. But no, he's
- 1:12:28definitely had a good year. And I'll say this there isn't compared to these
- 1:12:32other guys. There isn't as much of an offensive threat besides them, as
- 1:12:39far as there's not gonna be a go be a guy. Oh they're gonna
- 1:12:42kill you, uh, Whenever at least Luca. He has Kyrie Shay,
- 1:12:46Jaln Williams, Joki, Jamal Murray, Joannis, Damian Lillard, Steph used
- 1:12:51to have Clay who could get hot out of nowhere. Kaminga's Risen Donovan,
- 1:12:56Mitchell, Darius Garland. So all of these guys they have have a good
- 1:13:01around him. Yeah, and compared to Jalen Brunson, it's all of the
- 1:13:05workload. It's all dependent on him as far as offensively, and he's definitely
- 1:13:10lived up to the bill in this year. So who's number ten for you?
- 1:13:15Number ten, I'm gonna have to go with the goat Lebron James twenty
- 1:13:17five points seven point one is his seven point nine rebounds. I understand people
- 1:13:23may maybe laugh at that ranking a little bit, just considering there's a lot
- 1:13:26of good players playing this year, but Lebron's doing what he can. You
- 1:13:30know, he's doing the consistent consistency, the most consistent player we've ever seen.
- 1:13:35He's continuing to do it night and night out this year. And I
- 1:13:39think you've got to give him his props because as he's getting older, I
- 1:13:42don't think he's really he's losing a step, but losing a step for him
- 1:13:45is still top ten in the NBA, So yeah, I believe they're gonna
- 1:13:49end up making the playoffs. But it's all gonna be It's really only gonna
- 1:13:53be predicated off how Lebron plays, and that's why I think he's number ten
- 1:13:56for me. Yeah, so I have him number ten too, but I
- 1:14:00don't know if you know this. So Steph Curry, well, I mention
- 1:14:03it forty seven percent from the field, Lebron James forty point seven percent from
- 1:14:10the field as far as from three, So this dude may not be driving
- 1:14:13to the rack as well, but he's shooting more threes than he than he
- 1:14:17has in previous seasons and he's just as effishent as Steph Curry. So if
- 1:14:25anything, that should just show that it may not be the same old Lebron
- 1:14:30James. As far as him, well, I know he had a duncton
- 1:14:32night against Sacramento where he postered I think it was Alex Lamn But it may
- 1:14:38not be that Lebron, but it's it's a different version of Lebron where he's
- 1:14:44taken over a game by by shooting the ball, which we wouldn't have thought
- 1:14:47that that would become the case, and yeah, Lebron, he's number ten
- 1:14:53for me, and just an honorable mention that I'm going to give real quick.
- 1:15:00It's gonna have to be Darn Fox for me. I don't know about
- 1:15:02you. I don't know who's gonna be. Well, I kind of already
- 1:15:06know. You have his shirt on you have, so do you have an
- 1:15:14honorable mention here? I won't name him, even though I believe it,
- 1:15:18but so I won't name Wimby, but y'all know it's Wimby. So I'm
- 1:15:23gonna go. It's gonna be Stephen Curry for me. I understand that it
- 1:15:27was hard for It was really hard to make this list for me. I
- 1:15:30didn't have Stephan Curry in my top ten. But as to them being the
- 1:15:31ten seed, really and honestly, I think he's doing a lot. I
- 1:15:36get it, but he has to do a lot. He has to do
- 1:15:40all this crazy stuff, even and shooting at the insane rate that he's shooting
- 1:15:45at right now, and it's gonna be him and honestly for me, if
- 1:15:48it wasn't for injury, Joel Embiid would be top three in this list,
- 1:15:50top two in this list, yeah, maybe even one and if he wasn't
- 1:15:55injured, he would be on this list. I know. So I was
- 1:15:58really close to putting him at ten. But the way that Joel Embiid where
- 1:16:01he was more likely to score forty than thirty, you know, so I
- 1:16:05yeah, that that that says enough of why Joel Embiid deserves to be on
- 1:16:10this list. Yeah. Yeah, no, you're right, I agree with
- 1:16:14you. But okay, so if you have Steph off the list, then
- 1:16:20how come you have Luca Luca one? Because there is a lot of urging
- 1:16:27pretty much a triple double with thirty four points? Okay, okay, fair,
- 1:16:31fair, Okay, So you had Luca, Jokic, Shay Who,
- 1:16:38Jannis Donovan, Mitchell, everyone else? Yeah, everyone else on my list.
- 1:16:43They're pretty up there and standing except for Jalen Brunts and Kevin Durant.
- 1:16:46But those guys are leading teams that I think are just as bad as the
- 1:16:51Warriors teams surrounding. Do you think the Warriors team is worse compared to those
- 1:16:56situations? Though? I no, I think those sons have a pretty bad
- 1:17:01situation. I think they do. I really do. Okay, wait,
- 1:17:05I think so, so you would rather have Okay, so say, say
- 1:17:12if you're a player, say if you're say, if you're a free Okay,
- 1:17:15I would okay, okay, I think I would rather sign with the
- 1:17:20Sons. But I don't think the Sons. I think honestly, the thing
- 1:17:25that keeps them alive is that they have both Devin Booker and Katie that can
- 1:17:30get shots at will. If you look at this at the points, they're
- 1:17:32literally right next to each other. I think, as far as the warrior
- 1:17:35side, if it's not Steph, it's nobody usually. Yeah, that that's
- 1:17:41what I'm saying. It's like it's harder for Steph at least. Yeah,
- 1:17:44I get you. I get what you're saying. Now. I kind of
- 1:17:45have it myself, But I don't think. I don't think it's as far
- 1:17:48as part I think because the benches for both teams are just so bad,
- 1:17:51like the like the role players I don't like. I don't really like mess
- 1:17:55with either of them. Jackson Tyson Davis. You don't like him, well,
- 1:18:00no, he has two first names. No, But anything else you
- 1:18:08want to talk about before we want to our last topic? Nah, I
- 1:18:13think we're good off this all right, So this next topic right here,
- 1:18:18there is nothing really in particular but it's just as hard as the side stories
- 1:18:23that have happened in the NBA so far and just our reaction to it.
- 1:18:28So the first thing that we wanted to get over. It wasn't one of
- 1:18:30the games that we talked about. We didn't mention it because we're going to
- 1:18:32talk about it right now. Is Lebron James becoming the first player to hit
- 1:18:39forty thousand career points. So, Josh, do you think this ends any
- 1:18:45type of debate here or do you think there's still a debate. I think
- 1:18:49there's always going to be a debate because people refuse to realize that they're watching
- 1:18:55the greatest player to ever play basketball, which is Lebron James scoring forty thousand
- 1:19:00points and being as consistent as he has for how long, eighteen years,
- 1:19:08as consistent as he has win and doing this and doing this at the age
- 1:19:14of thirty nine, right, thirty nine years old, he's still doing this.
- 1:19:17Yeah, twenty five points, seven rebounds, seven assists. I'd like
- 1:19:20to see Wizards Michael Jordan do this, you know, so Lebron Lebron.
- 1:19:28I think a lot of people will not agree with us based off of who
- 1:19:32we think the greatest player of all time is But people need to all come
- 1:19:34into agreement that they're watching greatness, and they need to accept and really appreciate
- 1:19:40what they're watching because one day he's gonna be gone and you're gonna be like,
- 1:19:43damn, I didn't watch enough Lebron. I didn't appreciate Lebron when he
- 1:19:45was playing. I let my bias opinions on him as a person take over
- 1:19:51what he really did on the court. Yeah. So, and the thing
- 1:19:57is their bias opinions are retarded because they really go buy their kids John Morant
- 1:20:02jerseys, but they won't buy their kid a Lebron jersey. Make it makes
- 1:20:04sense? So, Okay, that threw me up right there. I didn't
- 1:20:13expect that last part. But I was trying to find these two stats here.
- 1:20:16So Lebron James, now that he has over forty thousand career points,
- 1:20:20he has more points than Larry Bird and Magic Johnson combined. Combined, those
- 1:20:27are two guys who are in most people's top five. He's like, oh,
- 1:20:30put their points together. If they have Larry Bird in their top five,
- 1:20:33I do not want to speak to that person like like, hey,
- 1:20:39you'll be surprised, You'll be surprised, and then okay, then then another
- 1:20:45stat or not another stat but something Okay, this was from twenty twenty two,
- 1:20:50But Lebron James passes Kareem Abdul Jabbar in fewer games, shot attempts,
- 1:20:57and minutes. Lebron James has played in thirteen of the twenty twenty season slow
- 1:21:02pace years since nineteen seventy four, while Kareem played in fifth and all fifteen,
- 1:21:09the fastest pace in NBA as far as offensive wise, and if you
- 1:21:14turn all of Lebron's threes into twos, he'll still pass Kareem in fewer games,
- 1:21:20shot attempts, and minutes. So as far as the holding right there,
- 1:21:27as far as the whole exactly, he's the greatest score to ever live
- 1:21:32and he's not even a pure scorer. It's that's where as far as okay,
- 1:21:39I guess we're going top five and three point three pointers made and I
- 1:21:44think the top ten rebounds, so it's like he's, yeah, he's about
- 1:21:47to be top he's about to be top five, he's about to be top
- 1:21:53five and rebounds if I'm if I'm not mistaken. But as far as people
- 1:21:57say, oh, this is a longevity Award. It's like even Lebron James.
- 1:22:01They act like Lebron James. This dude was Steph Curry and just a
- 1:22:06volume three point shooter. No, he was never that. It's Lebron James.
- 1:22:14In my opinion, he could guard one through four. The best offensive
- 1:22:17player around as far as we talk about nicolea. Joki is no weakness in
- 1:22:23the offensive game. Lebron James is literally that to a tee, and he
- 1:22:29changed He changed the way that people draft now because you never heard of this
- 1:22:35term three and D defenders or wing players really before Lebron James was put into
- 1:22:45the league and rose to start him. So yeah, I just feel like
- 1:22:48this is a clear cut now that Lebron James he is the goat. But
- 1:22:53all right, next one that we kind of wanted to talk about was Zion
- 1:22:58Williamson. He says he'll do the dunk contest if he is an All Star.
- 1:23:03So I know you talked about oh weeks prior, as far as the
- 1:23:09dunk contest, it's broken. So do you think this would fix a dunk
- 1:23:13contest here with Zon Wimson being in it. I mean it would fix it
- 1:23:17a little bit. I don't think to the extent because his stardom isn't.
- 1:23:21I mean, I would say maybe it fixes it, dude him. But
- 1:23:27the thing is, I don't see Zion making an All Start because I don't
- 1:23:29see him playing it the enough amount of games to make it as an All
- 1:23:31Star, and for certain reasons that I said last week, I can't repeat
- 1:23:35on this pot. But you know you made a pledge and stood by it.
- 1:23:41I did make a pledge, so it would it will help it out
- 1:23:44if a player like Zion with the with the stardom he has as a dunker
- 1:23:47does it. Yeah, but I also think it would have to take another
- 1:23:49player being along with him. It can't be Zion him and then three G
- 1:23:53League, three G leaguers. You know, it has to be Zion and
- 1:23:56three NBA players who are known. Yeah, but you don't think as far
- 1:24:00as if Zion he joins a dunk contest, there will be other guys like,
- 1:24:04Hey, I'll be willing to do the dunk contests and Zion's gonna do
- 1:24:08it. You don't think that will happen. I mean there, I think
- 1:24:12theyre. I think there will be. I think there will be at least
- 1:24:14one, at least one or two that want to do it because Zion does
- 1:24:16it. Yeah. No, but maybe Aaron Gordon comes back, he tries
- 1:24:21one more time. No, I feel like Aaron Gordon. He's an old
- 1:24:25head. Now he's a word about winning them chips. Now, I know
- 1:24:30somebody else is worried about chips. Okay, Okay, I'm not trying to
- 1:24:34I'm not trying to bait you to say nothing. All right, let's just
- 1:24:41move on to the next thing. So you you kind of mentioned it earlier
- 1:24:45as far as well, I'll kind of do these two together as far as
- 1:24:49no, you're good what okay? Yeah, yeah, you're like that.
- 1:24:57Yeah, yeah, let's not have this disconnect when we're we're getting close to
- 1:25:02Yeah, So I'm gonna kind of put these two together. So Russell Westbrook
- 1:25:06and Scottie Barnes, they both had hand surgery in which Russell Westbrook broke his
- 1:25:12hand and Scotty Barnes he it was some type of thumb and index finger injury.
- 1:25:18So we kind of talked about it with the with the Clippers here already.
- 1:25:25But as far as with the with Scottie Barnes here, do you think
- 1:25:30that they should just shut him down for the season or they should just let
- 1:25:34him come back when whenever he's healthy. I think they should shut him down
- 1:25:40because what's there by the time he comes back, this season is pretty much
- 1:25:44gonna be coming to an end unless they make the playoffs, which I I
- 1:25:46don't know. I needed to check where they're at in the standings. Were
- 1:25:49they exactly in the standings? Uh? The Toronto Raptors, I could pull
- 1:25:55it up right here, they're right now, they're twelfth. They are five
- 1:26:00and a half games back of the ten scene. Yeah, I don't think
- 1:26:04they'll even make the playoffs this year. So what's the point of bringing your
- 1:26:08star player back for him just to reaggravate or rehurt that hand when he could
- 1:26:13just rest up and get ready for next season and y'all can build a team
- 1:26:15around him or trade burst one of the two. But all right, next
- 1:26:24thing right here we'll move on to is Lebron James and Jylen Brown. They
- 1:26:29were both named players of the week here. Obviously we kind of know why
- 1:26:32Lebron he was named player of the week, but as far as Jaylen Brown
- 1:26:38here was that was as far as discussions here, as far as him not
- 1:26:44being worth worth all the money that he received the Supermax. Do you think
- 1:26:48that it's he's living up to that super Max? Do you think that it's
- 1:26:54it's worth it or no? I think the super Max should only be given
- 1:26:59to players who win championships. And has he won a championship? I don't
- 1:27:01think so so, and he doesn't really have that many accolades to go around.
- 1:27:08So I really feel like contracts in the NBA. I understand contacts and
- 1:27:12the NBA are fully guaranteed. I'm cool with that. But then in the
- 1:27:16NFL contracts there has to be I feel like NBA contract has to have at
- 1:27:20least some incentive base because if you're the Celtics, give this contract to a
- 1:27:27player that the belief can help them win a championship and as a star player
- 1:27:30if you get the supermacs, But he has yet to do that, so
- 1:27:32I'm not really gonna say he's worth it unless they win. That's fair.
- 1:27:38So okay, I have a question. Then, so if Wimby he makes
- 1:27:42some All NBA Teams Defensive Player of the Years, but he doesn't, but
- 1:27:46if he doesn't win a championship or have playoff success just because his team around
- 1:27:54him, because your team matters, so does he deserve the super Max then
- 1:27:58if you're going by that logic, well, I said that Jaylen Brown doesn't
- 1:28:02have the accolades either, so you know what I'm saying. So like,
- 1:28:05let's say Joel Embiid is I mean Joel Ebiid freaking with Victor Wombin Yama is
- 1:28:11a two time Defensive Player of the Year and runner up an MVP and multiple
- 1:28:15time All Star. I think he gets a Supermax. But as far as
- 1:28:20Jayalen Brown, he hasn't done those things either. So I feel like you
- 1:28:24have to have the accolades or win championships to be given these contracts. Well,
- 1:28:29you still have to be an all NBA type player. You Yeah,
- 1:28:33it's not like it's given out to anybody. But I just feel like I
- 1:28:36know, but I don't know. I just hate the Max contract Supermax contract.
- 1:28:41It's like, why can't we just negotiate a contract? You know what
- 1:28:44I'm saying, Like, it's like, well, based off for what was
- 1:28:48the original reason, it was to get players to stay in their original team
- 1:28:54where they were drafted, but more in the NBA. Yeah, now they
- 1:28:59just trade him. They're like, Okay, I'm getting my Max money and
- 1:29:01I'm going to the team that I want to go to. But all right,
- 1:29:06next one right here. This one's kind of just a quick topic.
- 1:29:11But the Suns, Bucks, and Lakers all have a top five hardest schedule
- 1:29:15remaining. So out of those three teams right there, which one would be
- 1:29:19falling, I'm gonna go with the Suns and this, ah, I think
- 1:29:28it's between the Suns or the Lakers. I think the Bucks are gonna be
- 1:29:31all right there, even if they drop down, I say, maybe to
- 1:29:33the three, like to the three spot they drop one, yeah, you
- 1:29:36know. But as far as the Suns and Lakers being at sixth and the
- 1:29:42ninth seat, I think the sixth of the ninth seat, oh that.
- 1:29:46I think they they have a lot to lose if they go on a losing
- 1:29:49streak. So between those two, I think, honestly, it'd have to
- 1:29:54be the Lakers. If the Lakers start losing a couple of games, they're
- 1:29:56gonna be on the outside looking in, and it's gonna it's gonna do a
- 1:30:00lot because they're gonna have to blow it up, I believe. If that's
- 1:30:01the case at the end of the season, you think so they would have
- 1:30:06to blow it up. They're getting older, Bro, there are Do you
- 1:30:11think the Lakers are just gonna keep on paying players that are injury prone?
- 1:30:15And they're they've been bringing all these players every single year, but nothing happens
- 1:30:18from it. They you know, they do this every year. They get
- 1:30:21halfway to the trade deadline, realize the team wasn't worth it. But you
- 1:30:26still have Lebron James and Anthony Davis, you do. But Lebron's career is
- 1:30:30also getting shorter. At Lebron himself want to thuck it out with the team
- 1:30:34and not go compete for a championship. You know that's fair. Well,
- 1:30:41he's talked about how he just wants to play with play with bronni Well,
- 1:30:45now we don't even at this point, we don't even know if is going
- 1:30:48to declare for this this year's draft. Might as well just wait for Bryce
- 1:30:54might as well. But all right, next one we'll get into is your
- 1:31:00guy Wimby. Now, he was named Rookie of the Month second time throughout
- 1:31:04this season, and thoughts about that. Yeah, he should be Rookie of
- 1:31:11the Month every year because he's leading the rookies in points, rebounds, blocks,
- 1:31:15and stills. And then he's top five and assists, and then this
- 1:31:18month alone, he's just going berserk. In the last nine games he's had
- 1:31:21fifty blocks, and then he's almost averaging five and five five by five,
- 1:31:27and then he did have a five by five game, and then he's he's
- 1:31:30guaranteed almost a triple double every single game with blocks. So, you know,
- 1:31:38I'm not surprised he should really be in the MVP conversation, but since
- 1:31:41the team around him is felling him, you know, that's just not gonna
- 1:31:45happen that way. And he should be Defensive Player of the Year. So
- 1:31:47I'm really not surprised about all this at all. I think he's honestly,
- 1:31:51two time Rookie of the Month is a little disrespectful to me. You know,
- 1:31:55it should be how many months have they been playing? Should I say?
- 1:31:58November? October, November de seper January February, So he should be
- 1:32:03a five time Rookie of the Month, not a two time. Well it's
- 1:32:10still still half them out, but all right, then this next one right
- 1:32:14here, the Miami He. I don't have much to say you you say
- 1:32:18pretty much everything about Winby here, so, uh, the Miami He.
- 1:32:24They're in a familiar spot they're in the sixth seed. Jimmy, he says,
- 1:32:28it's playoff Jimmy time. Do you are you buying into it? We've
- 1:32:31seen in these past two years or past few years. Actually, I want
- 1:32:36one hundred percent buying into I think that's how Eric Sposer sets it up.
- 1:32:40And I think that's how Jimmy Butler plays, like when it matters the most,
- 1:32:43he's gonna show up, and Eric Sposer is gonna start game planning when
- 1:32:45it matters. That's why I think he's really the second best coach in the
- 1:32:48NBA then thirds Mike Malone, but Eric Spostra, legend, future Hall of
- 1:32:54Famer. I think they know what it takes to win games, and I
- 1:32:58think that's being rested and when they when it comes around, I think they're
- 1:33:00really going to pick up, pick it up. And we said that earlier
- 1:33:02when we were talking about them. So yeah, I think that's going to
- 1:33:04be the case now. So Jimmy Butler doesn't play for regular season awards.
- 1:33:08He plays to get to the playoffs. Yeah, yeah, no, you're
- 1:33:11right, And so I kind of did a deep dive on it. And
- 1:33:15so they heat their ten and three in their past thirteen games and have the
- 1:33:18second best defense in that span. And Jimmy Butler during that time, he's
- 1:33:23averaging twenty five points a game, six rebounds, five assists, fifty seven
- 1:33:28percent from the field and fifty six percent from three. So when he says
- 1:33:32it's go time, let's go time, and this dude, he's not playing
- 1:33:35around. So now I'm buying into it again. And what the three seed
- 1:33:40right now would be the cavil Okay Calves Heat right now, as of right
- 1:33:43now, nothing else. Who's winning Calves, Heat, Caves and Heat.
- 1:33:48Yeah, well right now, I say the Heat because Evan Mobley is injured.
- 1:33:55M man the Calves being another exit man. No, but all right,
- 1:34:04I mean, is a big piece broke, Like that's just not something
- 1:34:08you can replace. But you still have, Oh you still have your Scarland
- 1:34:13dmaged Jared Allen, Max Drews. I understand, Yeah, yeah, but
- 1:34:21I don't know. I just think I just think Evan Mobley is a really
- 1:34:25big part of this team. Like I think it's gonna matter quite a bit,
- 1:34:28especially when it comes down defensively, rebounding and points, Like that's just
- 1:34:32one player that can do it all and you're you're gonna miss that. Mm
- 1:34:35hmm. Yeah, all right, So next thing right here, Nicola Jokic,
- 1:34:42he's closing in on his third MVP. Where does this put him as
- 1:34:46far as all time wise? I think he needs a little bit more ships,
- 1:34:54But I think sinners wise, like as the greatest centers of all time,
- 1:34:59he's up there, dude, like he's up there with Hakeem Shack.
- 1:35:01I think he's I think he deserves to be in those conversations. Oh oh
- 1:35:09okay, So the thing is, the thing is what hurts him a lot
- 1:35:12is defensively. Yeah, I think that's gonna be a big old thing brought
- 1:35:15up in his career. But then also, we're gonna say that if we
- 1:35:18look back at Luca's career, a we're gonna be like it was he wasn't
- 1:35:21a good defender, but he dropped, but he was able to score and
- 1:35:24pass the ball at will, you know. So yeah, that's also a
- 1:35:28pick and choose, you know what I'm saying. So three times, three
- 1:35:30time MVP, if you're not in the conversation with some of the greatest players
- 1:35:32of all time, then that's not a wild thing to say. You're a
- 1:35:35three time MVP for a reason. You know, you just need I just
- 1:35:39think the championships need to follow. Also, at least two or three.
- 1:35:42I understand you're not gonna win one every year, but give me two or
- 1:35:44three and you have a legit conversation. Is he already in the top five
- 1:35:50centers if he wins MVP because Kareem Hackema Shack, Kareem Shack. Who else
- 1:36:01you putting in there? He's better than Patrick Ewing, He's better than David
- 1:36:05Robinson. And I'm say that right here. He's better than David Robinson.
- 1:36:12Is he already the fourth best sinner? No? Are we well? Bill
- 1:36:16Russell? I don't know if you're considering Bill Rosse. I don't count.
- 1:36:19Don't talk to me about that guy. I'm just okaying, all right.
- 1:36:27I guess we have to put Bill Russell in the conversation. He's right there.
- 1:36:29I think four or five. I'll put him at five. Bill Russell
- 1:36:33goes above them, I think because some people they have Kareem Bill will Shaq
- 1:36:41Hakeem. But he's better, better than Wild Robinson, He's better than Will
- 1:36:45Will. I think I think he's I think he goes above Will. Okay
- 1:36:49with Will Chamberlain, How was there all this other footage of him running at
- 1:36:54forty cash didn't playing volleyball, and some of the other games. I'll come
- 1:37:00there's not the footage for the one hundred point game because it didn't happen.
- 1:37:05I agree, we're not gonna get into that, but I agree all right
- 1:37:11now some of these next two right here. So so as far as the
- 1:37:17New York Knicks and the Clippers, ever since the All Star Break, they've
- 1:37:20kind of been falling. Are they starting to prove themselves to be frauds?
- 1:37:32The Knicks and the Clippers. Yeah, as far as the Clippers were,
- 1:37:38it's the same thing we say about them all the time injury. They're just
- 1:37:41constantly in and out. I think they're all gonna be there when playoff time
- 1:37:45because around and ready to play as barring if they do get injured there.
- 1:37:47But losing Russell Westbrook is gonna hurt. I think. I think a lot
- 1:37:50of people hate on Russell, don't believe in Rustbrooke, but I think Westbrook
- 1:37:54is a big part to have on any team. I don't care. Anything
- 1:37:57that he's on has only gotten better in his career, go look it up.
- 1:38:00But as far as that, I'll say that from that point. But
- 1:38:04as far as the Knicks, we talked about it. If Jalen Brunson is
- 1:38:08not on, this team is not on, and you know, so it's
- 1:38:10really on the president of if Jalen Brunton is gonna have a big night if
- 1:38:15he's playing bad, because who's gonna be the next guy to step up?
- 1:38:17Julius Randall was inconsistent enough in my opinion to step up and take over a
- 1:38:20role. So if it's not Jalen Brunson, it's nobody for the Knicks.
- 1:38:24So I'm not I'm not pretty. I'm not surprised by that. So I'm
- 1:38:29gonna go out on I'm gonna go out on a limb here. So not
- 1:38:33as far as with the Knicks, I have more faith in the Knicks,
- 1:38:35just because Ogi Aenobi isn't back yet and nor is Julius Randall. But I
- 1:38:44know two weeks ago, I was saying that the Clippers out of the West,
- 1:38:48they have the best chance to make the championship. But I'm changing my
- 1:38:53mind. I think that I'm not buying to the Clippers no more. I'm
- 1:38:57not. I know it's only been two weeks. I know it's it's only
- 1:39:00been two weeks. But just from what I've seen and now that it is
- 1:39:04important basketball, it doesn't seem like winning basketball to me. It doesn't seem
- 1:39:11like championship quality basketball. And all, right, next thing right here.
- 1:39:17As far as the Bucks, they're now after this game against the Warriors,
- 1:39:23which they lost, which will kind of put into the next episode, but
- 1:39:29the Bucks are now six and one since the All Star Break. Was the
- 1:39:34Bucks demise or as far as people saying the Bucks are not the same team
- 1:39:39no more with Damian Lillard over drew holiday, it wasn't an upgrade, it
- 1:39:43was a downgrade. Do you think it was exaggerated? Do you think that
- 1:39:47people just overreacted just because the slow start. I don't think they overreacted because
- 1:39:58they fired their coach, but bring and then Doc Rivers gave them a fresh
- 1:40:00new look going into the going out of the like going into the All Star
- 1:40:04Break and coming out. So I don't think the demise was exaggerated because you
- 1:40:10did get rid of the guy that was running your team. But I also
- 1:40:14do think you need to put more faith in stars sometimes, and that's Giannis
- 1:40:17and Damian Lillard thinking that they'll figure it out. And we also got to
- 1:40:21think once Chris Middleton starts getting healthier, and yeah, it gets back to
- 1:40:26a little bit of not the same Chris Middleton he was, but to a
- 1:40:30little of fractured, like a little less percentage of that version. This team's
- 1:40:34going to be a really scary team to play. Yeah, especially feel like
- 1:40:38I said that for a lot of teams, but we're in an era of
- 1:40:40basketball where there's so many good players and so many good teams. Yeah,
- 1:40:45where the skill gap is way better. Don't mean old heads, but kind
- 1:40:48of do no, But yeah, no, I feel like it was just
- 1:40:54an overreaction to the Bucks and they're they're gonna figure it out. When you
- 1:40:58have superstar players, they're gonna find a way to get it done. But
- 1:41:01all right, let's go ahead and get into our last thing, which we
- 1:41:05do it every single week. It's the so called MVPs. Other week,
- 1:41:12Josh, who's your MVP? You go first? I have to think about
- 1:41:23mine, So mine. It's it's pretty simple here throughout the week, it's
- 1:41:30got to go to Lebron James. Lebron James. During these four games,
- 1:41:33they went three and one during the stretch, twenty seven and a half points
- 1:41:36a game. Six rebounds, eight and a half assists, and then at
- 1:41:43least one still a game, almost a block a game, forty three from
- 1:41:46three and and in three out of those four games he took over. First
- 1:41:53one being up against the Clippers where he just absolutely took over the fourth quarter
- 1:41:58where he had eighteen points and made seem like a gazillion threes. Next one
- 1:42:03against the Wizards, he took over again in crunch time. And I know
- 1:42:09that they lost to the Nuggets the next one, but still had a good
- 1:42:11night. But yeah, Lebron James, especially after this week, Brady breaking
- 1:42:17forty thousand points, first person in NBA history, he deserves it. He's
- 1:42:23my so called MVP of the week. And I think it's pretty obvious.
- 1:42:27Do you have yours yet, Joshua? Are you still thinking? Honest he
- 1:42:31didn't pick mine. Let me look, I was gonna go I can always
- 1:42:39go with one guy, but you know I can't do that every week,
- 1:42:41So I think, honestly, and the Clippers and Bucks game, I'm giving
- 1:42:45it to Bobby Porter's coming off the bench and scoring twenty eight points and then
- 1:42:48showing up how he did in the fourth quarter. I'm gonna give it to
- 1:42:50Bobby Porters, as my soul called Himp of the week based off that game
- 1:42:54alone, not after getting killed by the Warriors last night this or yeah tonight
- 1:43:00the Bucks did, but just for that game of love, Bobby Porters is
- 1:43:02my so called MVP of the week. Shout out to Bobby p Man.
- 1:43:05You know former, how what is that from? That's uh sweet life?
- 1:43:17From Victorious? Really? I thought I was from Zach and Zack and Cody.
- 1:43:23No, it's it's Victorious when her Trina does her little like whoa Okay,
- 1:43:30okay, okay, okay, I don't know why I thought. I
- 1:43:35don't know. It's yeah, they we're gonna lose. We're gonna lose some
- 1:43:39people right there. But yeah, for those that grew up in the in
- 1:43:43the twenty ten's and you were a twelve like a ten to fourteen year old,
- 1:43:47eight to fourteen year old, you know what we're talking about. Yeah,
- 1:43:50we're young and is compared to everybody else we're you know, we're barely
- 1:43:56we're barely over the twenty mark now. But before we start yapping on,
- 1:44:00let's go in an end this episode here, Josh, you got anything else
- 1:44:03to say? No, I've said my piece for this episode, Well all
- 1:44:13right on next week or shop to you on next week. Well all right,
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