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Post Apocalyptic Nephilim Wasteland (Feat. Codega's Codex of Curiosities) · Cosmic Peach

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  Speaker 1: Baby, I'm a gangstato.
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  Speaker 3: This podcast is designed to take you outside of your
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  Speaker 1: This ain't my first time at the rodeos. Alright, everyone,
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  Speaker 1: you know what it is. It's the Cosmic Peach Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: And tonight our guest is so when you may recognize
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  Speaker 1: from a past episode, the Vampire Priestess episode, we have
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  Speaker 1: Rye from Codega's Codex of Curiosities, which is a really
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  Speaker 1: interesting name. Actually, I like it. I like it. You don't.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't give too much away.
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  Speaker 2: I agree. It's a it's got a lot a lot
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  Speaker 2: in the name, you know. And I like that it
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  Speaker 2: had curiosities because I I'm always drawn to curiosities, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, there was always like the what do they
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  Speaker 2: call those, the like I don't want to say the
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  Speaker 2: freak show, but you know, like you go in and
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  Speaker 2: check out these strange, strange things that you you just
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  Speaker 2: never seen before, and you you want to go and
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  Speaker 2: so that's where I came with the Curiosities, but the Codega,
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  Speaker 2: that Moniker has kind of stuck with me for a
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  Speaker 2: while and I finally got to put it to use,
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  Speaker 2: So I was quite happy with that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it's like a lot of podcast names.
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  Speaker 1: They it's all in the title, you know, Nephelum, Death Squad,
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  Speaker 1: conspiracy whatever. With yours, it's kind of like, well, what
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  Speaker 1: exactly am I going to discover?
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  Speaker 2: What am I? What am I in for? Yeah? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And for those who don't know, like I'll give a
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  Speaker 2: brief history of the Codega. Codega was in Venice, Italy,
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  Speaker 2: and he was a guide that would guide people around
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  Speaker 2: the fourteenth to the sixteenth century. He would guide people
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  Speaker 2: with a lantern through the dark alleys in Venice, keeping
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  Speaker 2: away thieves, criminals, ghosts, and demons, and then along the
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  Speaker 2: way he would pass on he would tell them stories
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  Speaker 2: and he would also hear stories from his guests as well,
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  Speaker 2: the people that he would be protecting, and he would
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  Speaker 2: take them from someplace to someplace safe, you know, take
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  Speaker 2: them home or something like that. So that Monika, I
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  Speaker 2: just like that this guide who is walking you, keeping
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  Speaker 2: you safe along your journey and imparting some knowledge and
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  Speaker 2: some wisdom along the way.
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  Speaker 1: I like the name even more now there we go.
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  Speaker 1: No idea, but that was I was like, that could
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  Speaker 1: be like his uncle or something.
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  Speaker 2: As my daughter originally thought it was bodega, like bodega
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  Speaker 2: where you go and get something and so and so
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  Speaker 2: that kind of stuck in a way that I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 2: that's gonna be my merch store name. You know, likedgas
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  Speaker 2: codegas bodega.
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  Speaker 1: That's actually really cool. I like that. Well, so thanks
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  Speaker 1: for joining us. I'm really glad to have you here.
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  Speaker 1: When we worked together last time, we talked about the
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  Speaker 1: Vampire Priestess. But after we were finished recording, we kind
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  Speaker 1: of visited for a while, and you know, a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of we just talked about all kinds of stuff, but
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  Speaker 1: there was one thing in particular, and I wish we
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  Speaker 1: would maybe not because I want it for my own show,
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  Speaker 1: but uh, we weren't recording, but you were telling me
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  Speaker 1: about this vision you had one day, and I literally
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  Speaker 1: got like straight up goose bumps, like by the time
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  Speaker 1: you got to the end of the story, because I
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  Speaker 1: feel like, you know, people can have visions and it's
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  Speaker 1: not just like a ha loose Nasian or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the real is shit. So I mean, what
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  Speaker 1: exactly did you see?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, this is and this even freaked me out because
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  Speaker 2: I was starting to get a little terrified at the
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  Speaker 2: end of all of this. Now, and this didn't last
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  Speaker 2: a short time. This was like possibly fifteen minutes in total.
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  Speaker 2: So I had just pulled up to this this local
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  Speaker 2: supermarket here, just it's very small and I needed to
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  Speaker 2: get some things from the deli. So I as I parked,
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  Speaker 2: my vision starts to get distorted. And now this is
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  Speaker 2: where they kind of have a medical scientific explanation for it,
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  Speaker 2: which would be called an ocular migraine. So what happened
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  Speaker 2: is I started getting this and people call it as
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  Speaker 2: a kaleidoscope, but I don't call it a kaleidoscope because
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  Speaker 2: coliscope is all throughout your whole vision. What this was
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  Speaker 2: was lines. I started seeing these lines of immense bright
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  Speaker 2: light and it wasn't white, say, it was like fluctuating
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  Speaker 2: between pinks and purples and oranges and yellows as well,
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  Speaker 2: and it was rolling on itself, if that makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: So think of you have one line and it started
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  Speaker 2: from the left, was it started from the Yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: started from the left small and it opened up large
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  Speaker 2: to the right, and it was like a triangular shape
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  Speaker 2: and it was in all intensities purposes, a rip in
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  Speaker 2: my reality. Okay, So this started to form, and some
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  Speaker 2: people describe this as an ocular migraine. Now their actual
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  Speaker 2: knowledge of what an ocular migraine, and it is nothing.
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  Speaker 2: They're like, well, it doesn't have any pain. You just
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  Speaker 2: see these kaleidoscope of colors. Fair enough, that's and if
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  Speaker 2: that's all that happened, I would say, Okay, well I
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  Speaker 2: guess I had an ocular migraine, and I will call
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  Speaker 2: it off to that. So I'm walking through the store
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  Speaker 2: and this is starting to take up about fifty percent
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  Speaker 2: of my vision. Okay. So it's this rip that I
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  Speaker 2: see from left to right, this triangular and I'm standing
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  Speaker 2: in line at the deli now, and I checked my
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  Speaker 2: eyes and by doing that, I closed one eye and
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  Speaker 2: I'm holding my fingers over it. I'm doing it right now,
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  Speaker 2: and I could still see it. So then I switched
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  Speaker 2: eyes and I could still see it, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: what is going on? One thing I never did was
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  Speaker 2: close both eyes and see if I could still see it.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm like, what is going on and that's when
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  Speaker 2: I started to actually see through this. Okay, So it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't like there was just this bright colors and yay,
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  Speaker 2: that's the end of it. This is where things change.
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  Speaker 2: So I start to see theory of this, and I
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  Speaker 2: can see, I would say, clear as day, as if
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  Speaker 2: I was just looking across the street and seeing the
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  Speaker 2: house next door. And what I saw was the ground
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  Speaker 2: was strewn full of rubble. And this was okay, So
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  Speaker 2: it was ground was strewn full of rubble. I from
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  Speaker 2: where I was looking, it looked as if I was
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  Speaker 2: in some sort of industrial warehouse or a warehouse of sorts.
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  Speaker 2: I could see cinder block walls on my left hand side.
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  Speaker 2: And then, like I said, the ground was strewn with rubble.
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  Speaker 2: It looked like broken cinder blocks at best, if I
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  Speaker 2: could guess what it was. Though they weren't sharp edges.
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  Speaker 2: They were kind of rounded, slightly rounded, so you could
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  Speaker 2: tell that they have been broken for a while. Then
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  Speaker 2: on the right hand side and up, I can see
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  Speaker 2: the sky and I can see clouds whipping by. Now
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  Speaker 2: directly ahead of me, I can also see and this
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  Speaker 2: is much further in the distance. If I had to gauge,
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  Speaker 2: maybe I'm not good with feet and all, but I
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  Speaker 2: would say maybe like a one hundred to one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty feet in front of me are these large
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  Speaker 2: industrial sized fans, and they're each in a box unit
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  Speaker 2: with a cage front on it. The fans are slowly
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  Speaker 2: and just some things details I picked up the clan.
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  Speaker 2: The fans were slowly turning in a counterclockwise manner. They're
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  Speaker 2: just slowly just turning now. The and I know hink
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  Speaker 2: it was I'm not sure maybe but Nick or something
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  Speaker 2: who said, was it Sepia? Did you see in Sepia?
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  Speaker 2: And and I don't know if it was really Sepia.
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  Speaker 2: But every color was like this brown and rust color.
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  Speaker 2: The clouds were as well, like the clouds were whitish,
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  Speaker 2: but like where they were darker. It was this brown,
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  Speaker 2: rusty color. The ground was strewn with this as well,
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  Speaker 2: and the big box fans in the back were the same.
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  Speaker 2: The walls were like this. They were darker, of course,
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  Speaker 2: but that's what I saw. And on the right I
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  Speaker 2: actually never really said this much, but there was like
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  Speaker 2: the wall was blown out on the right hand side,
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  Speaker 2: so there was no wall on that side. I did
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  Speaker 2: see a ceiling as well, a partial ceiling. If you
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  Speaker 2: ask me what it was, I don't know if it
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  Speaker 2: was like tin or something else like that, but I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. Now I'm standing in line seeing all this
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  Speaker 2: at the deli, trying to order, trying to pretend that
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  Speaker 2: everything is cool and normal, though I can't see really
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  Speaker 2: the lady that I'm talking to. I can't even see
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  Speaker 2: this lady, and I'm like, okay, you know, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: ordering in Spanish. You know, I want bacon and I
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  Speaker 2: want cheese. And then I like walking back through the
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  Speaker 2: aisles and I can see out the periphery of my eyes,
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  Speaker 2: so I know that I'm in the middle of the
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  Speaker 2: eh and I go on, pay duo.
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  Speaker 1: Did you feel like you were going to have like
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  Speaker 1: a panic attack? Though, seeing like being in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the store, that's gotta be horrible.
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  Speaker 2: Now, so I've had a panic There was a time,
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  Speaker 2: maybe like five six years ago, where I had a
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  Speaker 2: couple of panic attacks in a row, and I know
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  Speaker 2: what those are, and I would say that I felt
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  Speaker 2: very anxious and very terrified and scared, but I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: having a panic attack. It was nothing like that, though,
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  Speaker 2: But because that was intense, I'm not saying that this
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  Speaker 2: wasn't either. This was very intense, but it felt different.
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  Speaker 2: It was like it was intriguing at first. It was
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  Speaker 2: intriguing at first, but then it started become a little
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  Speaker 2: scary because this is not going away. And now my
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  Speaker 2: point of view within this where I was looking through
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  Speaker 2: never changed. Okay, so even if I was moving in
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  Speaker 2: this world, that world was like a fixed I had
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  Speaker 2: a fixed vision of what I was seeing. And again,
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  Speaker 2: like it was it was very realistic, like there was
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  Speaker 2: not like, okay, I think this is happening. Oh I
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  Speaker 2: see this in my mind's I know now, I wasn't
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  Speaker 2: paying attention to it all the time because I'm trying
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  Speaker 2: to pay attention to the periphery. So I'm not focusing
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  Speaker 2: on that. I'm trying to pay attention to the world
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  Speaker 2: that I'm in right now so I can actually interact,
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  Speaker 2: pay for my stuff, get in my car and drive,
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  Speaker 2: which was you know, yeah, I was about a block
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  Speaker 2: about a block away from home, so I'm like, I
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  Speaker 2: need I just need to get home. That was in
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  Speaker 2: my mind. I'm like, I need to get home, I
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  Speaker 2: need to get safe. And so I paid for my cheese,
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  Speaker 2: my bacon, walked to the car and I'm driving, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind of like, try even but you're trying to
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  Speaker 2: move your head to peer around, but you can't see it.
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  Speaker 2: So you just have to kind of like remain your
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  Speaker 2: head still and focus on the outsides of the outskirts
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  Speaker 2: of your vision to see what you're seeing. Now, it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't very busy and I didn't run into really any
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  Speaker 2: traffic or anything like that, so it was nothing to
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  Speaker 2: worry about. But yeah, and I parked the car, went
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  Speaker 2: inside and and I I told my wife, I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I need to lay down. I think I I think
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  Speaker 2: I have a headache. I didn't know what I had.
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  Speaker 2: I think I had a headache, is what I said.
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  Speaker 2: And I went and I was going to take some advil,
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  Speaker 2: but I was like, no, no, I don't even want
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  Speaker 2: to do that. So I'd lay down and then I actually,
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  Speaker 2: I want this gone. I don't know what the hell
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  Speaker 2: I'm seeing, you know, please take this, take this away
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  Speaker 2: from me. And within a minute to a minute and
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  Speaker 2: a half was gone, So what what was happening was
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  Speaker 2: gone like that, So that was what I saw.
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  Speaker 1: And you didn't, just for the listener's sake, you weren't
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  Speaker 1: taking like any psychedelics or you weren't like trying to
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  Speaker 1: see something, you were just randomly on your way to
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  Speaker 1: the store and got hit with.
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  Speaker 2: This, right exactly, Yes, yeah, all right.
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  Speaker 1: So what it sounds like is like we talked about
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  Speaker 1: it before, but almost kind of like a post apocalyptic
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  Speaker 1: weird you know, disheveled warehouse with these fans and like
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  Speaker 1: just kind of almost like a deserted place kind of.
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  Speaker 1: And so what do you take from seeing this, Like,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think you saw?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm no experts, I don't I'm just going on
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  Speaker 2: my gut feeling and what I believe. I believe it
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  Speaker 2: was seeing through. I don't want to say the veil
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  Speaker 2: because I think that's so cliche. I saw through to
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  Speaker 2: another world that exists alongside ours. I actually believe that
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  Speaker 2: this world is where the disembodied spirits live, they inhabit
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  Speaker 2: the When something I saw that was kind of similar
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  Speaker 2: was when Constantine kills you know, like kind of commits
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  Speaker 2: a bit of a suicide and he goes to Hell
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  Speaker 2: to rescue that woman. That landscape of Hell it was
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  Speaker 2: much more intense, but it was similar to what I
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  Speaker 2: saw as well, Like I feel that these spirits are
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  Speaker 2: inhabiting this wasteland, the suppost apocalyptic wasteland. And if those
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  Speaker 2: people who don't know what disembodied spirits are, these are
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  Speaker 2: the spirits of the dead Nephalo, because they are cursed
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  Speaker 2: to wander the land. They thirst, but can never quench
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  Speaker 2: that thirst. They hunger, but can never satisfy their hunger.
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  Speaker 2: And they will they they just looking and looking, and
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  Speaker 2: that's why we get and again this is all speculation.
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  Speaker 2: That is why we get possessions, because these spirits are
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  Speaker 2: looking to possess us so that they can satisfy their hunger,
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  Speaker 2: they can quench their thirst, they can experience the world
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  Speaker 2: as we know it. We can see this beautiful world.
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  Speaker 2: We look out the window, we see you know, trees
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  Speaker 2: and this blue sky. And it's to escape this wasteland
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  Speaker 2: that they are stuck in.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm. I know you had on Gary Wayne, and
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  Speaker 1: he's a wealth of information. I've learned so much from
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  Speaker 1: that guy. But he's he always said to me that
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  Speaker 1: every ancient culture throughout history has the flood story. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and after after the flood, there was this place that
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  Speaker 1: you saw, this wasteland, this post apocalyptic, you know, horrible
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  Speaker 1: place that was created to send these souls to of
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  Speaker 1: the Nephilem, and they're constantly looking for someone to possess
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  Speaker 1: because they're trapped there unless they can find somebody. And
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  Speaker 1: what I also feel like is true is some of
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  Speaker 1: the I don't want to say like elite, but that's
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  Speaker 1: probably who it is. I feel like you don't have
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  Speaker 1: to be elite to conjure one of these spirits up,
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  Speaker 1: but they actually want to be possessed because they feel
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  Speaker 1: like they'll get some type of like power or magic
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  Speaker 1: or something by letting these beings like inhabit their bodies.
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  Speaker 1: And what I mean, what do you feel about that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I haven't thought too much about it, but I
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  Speaker 2: do have some opinions on it though that I do
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  Speaker 2: believe that is possible. You know. They it's kind of
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  Speaker 2: like a symbia type of relationship where Okay, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to allow you in and you give me this, and
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  Speaker 2: I give you this earthly world as well. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I give you access to this. I do believe that
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  Speaker 2: it's completely possible. And we've seen that how many times
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  Speaker 2: in movies, you know. I believe movies are not only
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  Speaker 2: like a soft disclosure, but they're also I believe some
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  Speaker 2: people believe it's all soft disclosure in Hollywood in these movies,
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  Speaker 2: but I and my friend Brad from the Awaken podcast,
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  Speaker 2: we are on a bit of an understanding as well
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  Speaker 2: that it's not just soft disclosure, but it's also trying
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  Speaker 2: to get people to imagine that this is a reality,
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  Speaker 2: that we actually manifest that reality then as well. But sorry,
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  Speaker 2: I digress back to your question. Is I totally believe
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  Speaker 2: that there are people that are and I don't like
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  Speaker 2: using the word deep state or anything like that because
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  Speaker 2: I feel that those as soon as we discover something,
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  Speaker 2: I feel that it is stolen and tainted from us
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  Speaker 2: just to just to muddy the waters so that they
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  Speaker 2: don't have you know, it loses, it loses, it's it's forced.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's like, okay, we'll call it deep state.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody's calling it deep state, and they just do that
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  Speaker 2: out of a joke, you know, just to to make
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  Speaker 2: this of a joke, and then it makes us look
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  Speaker 2: more of like a joke as well. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: do believe that possessions happen as a partnership as well,
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  Speaker 2: and I and I feel that possessions happen a lot
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  Speaker 2: more than we give, you know, give credit to it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's say a Wigi boorg. You're you're working with a
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  Speaker 2: Wigi boarg. What is happening. Your hands are moving the
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  Speaker 2: plan chet right, so that means you're inviting these spirits
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  Speaker 2: into It's kind of like a very light type of possession.
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  Speaker 2: So they're moving your hands without you really knowing to
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  Speaker 2: to spell out these messages and to give you messages
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  Speaker 2: that that, of course are there's truth to them, but
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  Speaker 2: it's just a it just a gateway to something else. Completely.
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  Speaker 1: It reminds me of the Marvel movie Venom. It's like
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  Speaker 1: you'll get some type of exchange with this being that
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  Speaker 1: you let inhabit your body, and they always are like
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  Speaker 1: craving flesh and stuff in these movies. It makes you
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  Speaker 1: like blood thirsty. And I don't know, I just I've
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  Speaker 1: done a lot of research on the nepheline, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how far into it you are, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, full on. I think that you know, they
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  Speaker 1: have created like biological vessels for these things to enter
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  Speaker 1: into to interact in the physical world. I think, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think that they are totally aware of their existence
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  Speaker 1: and that they've been trying to get them over here
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  Speaker 1: so they could even gain It's like they're all you know,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: not all powerful, but they have like all this wisdom
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: and stuff that they want to like get from these beings.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: And I mean if you think they've been around since
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: the beginning of time, so that's how they get you,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Like there's they can tell you things. They could probably
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: predict the future and all this stuff. But so I
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: saw that you have an episode about like witchcraft and
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Wika and stuff like that. I mean, where do you
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: draw the line between like evil and not Like you
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: mentioned the Ouiji board, right, yeah, I think anytime you
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: use one of those things, you could be contacting a
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: neflam spirit, a demon, I mean, and they'll come across
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: you like, oh, you know it's your dead granny or whatever.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: But I mean what I saw that episode and I
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: was just curious, like what do you think about stuff
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: like that?
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: So I think it's a very difficult road. Like I
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I think, if we have the right intention, we're given
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: a lot of tools. Okay, but it's what we do
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: with those tools now. We shouldn't use divination divination such
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: as like the Louisi board. I think is it's exactly I'm
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: completely along with you on this one where I believe
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: that yeah, it's your dead grandma. Well, of course they
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: know everything. They've been watching, you know, hence called the watchers.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I know that's the fallen ones, not the Nephileine, but
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: that is what they do. They watch, they know. I'm
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: sure they can read your mind and tell you everything
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: that you have. These have questions for so they can
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: try to convince you to get in there. But so
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: sometimes I believe that you can call things differently, but
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: we could still be worships being the same true God. Okay,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: so wicca and witches. There are some that I believe
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: are evil. They are are black magic. There are other
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: ones that are you know, they have these and I
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: don't say good intentions, but they're actually doing good. They're actually,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: you know, create aiding tinctures.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: And they're they're creating I don't want to say potions
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: because that sounds they do.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: They they have stuff like I've been to the store,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: the store. I mean, they have these little shops and
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: stuff you can go you get crystals. They have little
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: things for you and.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you crystals like everyone's like, oh, be
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: careful of crystals. Why that is of that that is
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: a natural device. That is something that is natural device.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I mean like it's a natural mineral, it's a natural product.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: That was creat to use that way though.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Now yeah, but now if you use this to put
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: pour your evil intentions into and then pass it off
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: to someone, then then yeah, then then you're you have
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: evil intentions and you are you are evil kind of thing.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: But like there is I have a friend in the
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: next city over. She they call herself like the Green
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Witch or or the White Witch, and she and her
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: daughter they create tintures and they're of the Christian you
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: know that they're Christians. But they go out and they
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: work the land. And I believe that's something that we
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: have forgotten. We think that, you know, working with herbs
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: and creating cures for ailments is something that's bad, but
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: it isn't. That is working with you know, natural products.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: I think working with anything natural and trying to help
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: to help someone else is good. But if you start
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: worshiping you know, false idols per se, then I say
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: you better watch where you're where you're treading.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent with you, and I think for
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: the longest time I thought that all crystals must be
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: evil because everything we know has been corrupted in a
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: little bit of a way. So it's like they give
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: you a tool and then they tell you how to
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: use it, and then you know it welcomes something bad
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: into your life because you're not using it right. But
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I'm coming around to the idea of thinking like everything
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: could be a tool in your tool bag that you use,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: and it depends on what your intention is behind you
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: using these tools. Except for a ogi boarder, I don't
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: think that's good in any capacity.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: But yeah, they're just available at Toys r us no
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: problems or you know. That's where I first got mine,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: was that Toys r US. I was there when I
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: was like sixteen years old and with my sisters and
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: we bought it and it ramped things up in our house,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Like our house was already had some issues, and it
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: went crazy. It went crazy after that.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Well, are you familiar with Ed and Lorraine Warren, those
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: paranormal investigator They were like the og paranormal investigators.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Were they the ones who investigated investigated the amit Amititeville
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: horror House?
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, okay, so they did. There's they've made a
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: bunch of movies about them, but like The Conjuring Annabelle,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Amityville Horror, those are all based on real stories of Edin,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Lorraine Warren and the Exorcist. Actually, so, there was a
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: little boy somewhere I think it was Saint Louis but
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Eden Lorraine Warren went to their house and they said, well,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: he got a demon in him from playing with a
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Wigi board. And that story went so viral, and they
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: had these two on the news and da da da
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: da da, And they said the year that they made
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: that story go viral, about this kid, Ouiji boards like
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: sold off the shelves. So you almost have to wonder,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: like are things sensationalized to get people interested in certain things?
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, they put it on the news, they put
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: it on talk shows, they put it. Then they made
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: the movie obviously, and you know they're selling them at
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: toy stores. Even so, it just makes you it's a
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: story about a possess, a demon possessed person, and all
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: it did was make people want to go out and
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: buy one and do it for themselves to find out,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: like it's literally like programming your mind.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Oh it is, and people are inherently curious the name
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: of the show. But that is the thing is sometimes
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: if you're told something, you're like, I got to see
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: it with my own eyes. And sometimes that they're like,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: oh this is or some people don't, they don't give
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: enough credence. They're just like, yeah, this is hilarious, let's
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: just do this, you know, and it's they don't know
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: what they're actually playing with. They're playing with fire, and
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: that's what's happening. It's like some guys will go and
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: do it because they want to impress the girls. Look
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: at me, look at me.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: It's that that testosterone egotist kind of thing, those young
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: foolish people that go and do that, and it's it's
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: something that should not be, you know, thought off lightly
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: at all. And because you, like you said, like those
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: tools those things can be well that specifically wi you wore,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: I think is is very nefarious. You're you're opening the
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: door for something you can't see. It's like randomly calling someone,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: but calling someone in a prison actually and hoping you
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: get someone who is who is kind and nice. Yeah, good,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: good luck with that. I don't think that's going to happen.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: You said something earlier and I wanted to respond to it.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: So you said that with the nephileine, like they're making
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: these empty kind of things for the nephiline and have it.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I want to take it one step further. Something that
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: I believe is the hybrid hybridization of aliens and humans.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I believe is that exactly that is the process that's happening.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: So they hybridize these humans. So but they're born soulless, okay,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: and that is where they put and this is this
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: is just speculation, but for I'm hearing so many stories
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: that I've had on my show, I'm coming up with
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: this theory that that's what they're doing. They're creating these
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: empty shells so that they could be the Nephelin. Disembodied
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: spirits can re enter the world. But that's not it
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: doesn't end. It doesn't end there. But wait, there's more.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Is that I believe that they are trying to get
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: back into heaven like it is a secret unlock, back
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: door entrance to try to get back in because now
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: we're embodying a human body. Now perhaps I have a
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: second chance of getting in, and could that start a
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: secondary you know, war in the heavens. I don't know.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: This is just a just a thought that I've been
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: having that that I love it.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I love it. You know what I thought, Well, it
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: could go with your theory. Actually, okay, that the grays
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: that people see are these empty biological vessels for the
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: spirits of these neflam to inhabit. But they could have
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: been like a prototype for what you're talking about, because
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: now they want to get them to be able to
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: interact in the world. Right, you can't just send a
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: gray to the White House, but you can if it's
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: a human body, Yes, and it's like one of these
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: spirits coming into it.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I agree with you with the grace. They
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: are these suits of sorts, you know, biological suits that
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: can be you know, you can enter into these suits
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: and function and control it and possibly even with consciousness
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: as well. So if you know, I could remotely like VR,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: put on a VR headset and now I'm fully integrated
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: with this with a gray, so I don't even have
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: to be there to be able to interact and to
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: do this. But yeah, I agree. And then if they're
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: not because usually a lot of times the smaller grays
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: are kind of more robotic, and there's like taller grades actually,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: and those ones have more of a personality to them
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: from what I've heard from experiences. So perhaps the taller
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: ones are being operated by another being. I don't know.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: So the people that you've talked to have they had
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: like overwhelmingly negative experiences, I would imagine.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: I would say ninety percent of them do. Even some
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: of them that have negative experiences, though some of them
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: will like kind of think it's a good experience in
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: a way, but yeah, ninety percent of them have had
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: negative experiences with these. And let me tell you that
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: if you are being abducted, that means you are being
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: taken against your will. That is something evil. I don't
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: care who you are or what you believe they are.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: That is like, that is evil. Now, with that being said,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: my belief of the aliens is is that they are
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: connected into this. All they are connected to possibly the
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: fallen you know, the fallen angels or the Watchers or
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: the Nephilme of sorts. But if there is there always
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: has to be a balance. So there's good and there
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: has to be like if there's evil, there has to
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: be good. So I do believe that there are good
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: beings out there. You know, the angels heavenly angels, but
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: they're under rules that they're not supposed to interact with us.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: That is not what they're supposed to do, you know.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: They it's kind of like what is that the Star Trek?
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: You know, the prime directive is to not interfere with
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: a with a civilization. I believe that is exactly kind
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: of what they do as well. They they will like
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: not interfere. They're not going to abduct you. They will
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: not interfere, but sometimes they do. Sometimes they do not
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: abduct you, but sometimes they they help a situation.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Or send you messages or well, you know, and it's
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: like these other guys, not heavenly angels, but like these
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: fallen ones. They're playing by their own rules. You know.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: That's where you get like abductions and crazy stuff like
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: experimentation and like doing all this because they have no
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: one to answer to that they are playing by their
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: own rules. And you know, I would I've always felt
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: that way about abduction because it's like you said, sometimes
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: people will say, well, you know, I'm glad I had
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: the experience or like whatever, and they try to find
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: like a silver lining. But would they say that if
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: if some random guy broke into their house in the
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: middle of the night and took their kid for a
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: couple hours and brought them back. It's like, oh, but
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: let's look at the silver lining. Did at least they
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: didn't rape them, Like what are you talking about? Like
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: this was an abduction? Like this is bad, this is
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: not okay.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree totally. And I never actually thought of
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: wording it like that or bringing that analogy in. But
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: that's a great analogy. It's perfect. It's perfect, you know,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: it's just not okay. Now you can take that experience,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: even though it was negative, and you can say that
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: helped shape my life and it was. I I'm as
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: bad as an experience. It wasn't glad I had it
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: because now I am who I am today. Now I
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: know everything that I know because of what happened, and
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: now i'm, you know, fighting for the truth or doing
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: something like that. Okay, that works, but being abducted and
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: being experimented on sometimes it's not a good thing. It's
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: not a good thing at all.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Do you think that they're harvesting Obviously they're doing something,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: so in my opinion, they've got to be like harvesting
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: DNA and stuff, because how could you then create a
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: human vessel without getting something from us, you know, because
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: we have divine DNA, you know, it's from God. We
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: have the ga GI we have you know, the guy
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: who discovered the double helix shape of human DNA, Francis Crick,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: He was like, I don't know where DNA comes from, honestly,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: because there's no explanation for it whatsoever. And he thought
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: that we were aliens because he said, there's got to
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: be something else going on here, because there's no reason
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: whatsoever for us to have this type of DNA. And
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: so I think that they're trying to siphon that off,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: create these these empty vessels, and they're using it to
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: maybe it's like you said, to grow babies or something,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: so they can that that.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Is exactly what is happening. Now. I've talked to two
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: people who have been adopted abducted specifically for that purpose.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: So I don't know if you ever talked to Karen Wilkinson,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: she's written the book Stolen Seed, Evil Harvest. I believe
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: you guys have talked Vicky Vicky joy Anderson recently. So
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Vicky works with Karen like like this, Uh, they're really
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: good friends. And so Karen has written this book because
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: she's she was a lifelong abductee and she was abducted
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: and impregnated multiple times and then they took it out.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: There's she even has like medical proof that she was
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: pregnant and then there was no pregnancy anymore. And this
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: was approximately I think she said it was like after
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: two It was very a short time, like two months,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: might be even less than that. And then they they
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: removed the embryo and uh, yeah, so this has happened.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: And she says that she actually met her high bred children.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: I think it was two of them, yes, And and
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: I know it sounds it sounds crazy to some people.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: They might be like, what that that's that's crazy.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: And then I interviewed another person, raf Rafael Skits Rafael
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: the Skits Lugo. He is he was a rapper and
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: after he's had these experiences, he used them to actually
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: change it. Now he does like this motivational hip hop
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: almost or this motivational rapp it's really good. But he
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: has talked about being abducted multiple times and that he
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: at one time he was brought into like this nursery
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: and given this baby that looked humanish, but not so.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: He says. The eyes were like black and a little
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: bit larger as well. And the mental image he was
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: given to by the by like the caretaker, like the babysitter,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say a babysitter, but like the
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: caretaker of these of these children, was like this was yours,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: this was yours. And he said this and Karen also
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: said this as well, is that they needed they need
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: the human touch, so they need to be held for
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: just a little bit to given this humanity.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Yes, terrifying, Yes, yes, that is terrifying.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: M hm and so. And Karen has been adducted. She
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: doesn't believe she was taken off world. She believes she
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: was taken to an underground facility. Oh that makes sense, yep, exactly.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Raphael has been adducted into the ship. He talked about
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: being in a large and I don't think it was
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: on our ship. He went somewhere else could have been
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: underground as well. He was in a large auditorium of
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: sorts which was filled with hundreds and hundreds of other
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: people who were like him, who were being abducted, and
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: they were harvesting their their DNA from Oh my god.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's like, how do you tell people you've
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: had this experience that?
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I agree? And that's where that's kind of where I
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: bring my show in. One of the things is like
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: I want to give them a platform to know that Listen,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: I don't think you're crazy. I think these things are happening.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: And by you getting your word out, it might make
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: you feel a little better to get it off your chest,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: but you're also empowering other people who've had this experience
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: to know that I'm not alone.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine, like what if it was you, Like,
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: what would you do? How do you even tell your family?
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: You can't?
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: You can't, Like, that's crazy. I'm not saying they're crazy,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: but that's crazy.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, and that's what I say, Like I
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: tell them, I said, listen, I'm going to ask you
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: questions about the experience. I'm not going to question that
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: you had the experience because these things are happening and
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: it is. It is crazy. It is absolutely crazy. And
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: it's kind of like it's not like one a person
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: is abducted once. I've been finding that it's kind of
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: if you're chosen almost it's kind of like multiple abductions.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: And Karen was able to stop it bye by bringing
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: in like, you know, calling out Jesus Christ, you know,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: to leave me alone and just calling it. So that
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: tells you is that if you're using the name of Christ,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: you know, Jesus, and it's stopping it, that means they're
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: of this world, they're of this creation because that has
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: power over them.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Yep, because there's power in the name. And obviously if
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: it didn't mean anything, they would just keep doing it.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: But you know what sets is crazy is I've had
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: this theory for the longest time that they're doing like
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: this hybridization with animals too, because it does say and
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: I've brought this up before, like old Testament style, that
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: they were having sex with animals and humans alike and
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: creating these giant beings and what have you. But if
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: they were having sex with like humans and animals alike,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, and I'm super curious and see what
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: you think. But this is where we get a lot
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: of the cryptid stuff from. So I mean, just your
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: opinion on that.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: I believe that plays a role in these cryptids for sure,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: you know, like Chaimera's and whatnot. I definitely believe it's sirens,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: which are Mermaids, which is funny. I bring that up
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: because I was just listening to an episode today about
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: the siren of the Starbucks cup there right right, Yeah,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: that's a whole other topic. But that's kind of like
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: way a new way to worship old gods. And you know,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: it's like we don't go to temple, like Starbucks is
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: a temple and you're you're purchasing these you're you're you're
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: donating money for this. But okay, that's a whole that's
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: a topic.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: I've talked about it too, because it's like that double
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: tailed serpent teams. Yeah, so like do you think and
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you've interviewed people who have had experiences, but
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: these cryptid beings are inner dimensional probably in nature, and
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: they're they have magic like their parents probably had magic, uh,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: being these fallen ones and they are evil in nature
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: because they are they're fallen creatures. But I have only
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: ever heard people talk about like dog men and Mothman,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: and it's like and even Bigfoot in some instances. It's
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: like not usually a positive experience, like these things are
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: crazed there they'll get you if you let them. They
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: they like Mothman's like this harbinger of doom and stuff.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's Mothman is an interesting one and I is
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: he a harbinger of doom or is he a like
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: messenger to warn people of the upcoming? But it's all
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: in riddles. So everything that kind of happened in around,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: like the silver Birds collapse, was kind of all in riddles.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: There was a lot of riddles. Riddles. Yes, that's what
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: I said. Okay, Sorry, I was like, did I say
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: the word wrong? Though, But there's a lot of riddles
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: around it trying to decipher it, and at the end,
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: after everything happened, that's when everybody was able to piece
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: it all together. So it's kind of like, I guess
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: if he was there for good, he would have really
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: warned the people and told them that this was happening.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: But instead, you know, they received dreams and premonitions of
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: what happened. But back to like dog Man, Yeah, dog Man,
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I've never heard of a positive experience, not once with
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: a dog Man. Now Bigfoot, I've heard some positive experiences,
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: and then I've heard people gifting Bigfoot, like leaving peanut
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: butter out and food out, and I'm like, what do
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: you do? And you're messing with something that you shouldn't
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: be messing with. I think of the wigil board as well,
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: like like what are you doing? Like stay away from that.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: There was a family that was doing that and then
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: these then they stopped, and these bigfoot started getting aggressive
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: and they actually called in some some locals to help
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: them with it. And the bigfoot entities then followed these
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: local this local home, and he had to deal with
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: them as well. It was it was ridiculous. Now, now
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: this is something that's kind of I'm going to go
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: into a theory a bit, a bit about bigfoot, if
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: that's all right. So bigfoot is and and this ties
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: into like like vampires as well. Okay, what is the
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: what is the what is the thing about vampires? They
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: can't come into your home unless you invite them. And
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying i've personally, I've never heard of a
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: story of a bigfoot ever entering a house. I heard
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: them beating the crap out of the house, and but
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: never break in a window. They just have to like
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: tap on a win so they can break a window,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: but it's never happened. I've never heard and a dog
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: man entering a house as well, So I think there
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: is something about the threshold of your home that protects you.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Now that being said, I also think that we need
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: to watch out for welcome mets on on your front porch.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: If you put a welcome mat, that's a general invitation
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: to come on in. So you got to watch out
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: for that.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: But back then that's a good point.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: That's something. Yeah, it's like, Okay, don't have a welcome
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: you can put an unwelcome mat out front, and then.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: You'll say you, Matt, exactly.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Get the fuck out of here.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, sactly you.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: But so my theory is is that these entities have
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: to abide by some laws, you know. And I'm not
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: saying that they're abiding abiding by any like physics or
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: anything like that, because they're able to walk through or
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: they're able to walk through portals and disappear and go
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: into black mysts and whatnot. But there's certain things that
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: they just cannot seem to break. Now, a lot of
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Native folklore talks about the hairy Man, okay, and I
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: believe that they interacted quite a lot than we are
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: led to believe, to the point that traditions were intertwined.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Because one thing that the Bigfoot will do is they
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: will slap a house. This is one thing they do
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: is they will slap the house. This is I've heard
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: this multiple times. So again I'm speculating. And I've talked
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: with a Native, a Native elder on this one as well,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: and he's like that's great. Well, he's like saying, yeah,
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: that makes sense. Is that it's very similar to something
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: called counting coup. Okay, So I don't know if you
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: if you know what the principle of counting coup is.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Counting coup is a Native type of tradition that a
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: warrior would do. It would just show how brave he
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: without killing someone or doing something like that. He would
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: some of them would invade an enemies camp, maybe at night,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: and take something or do something to show that he
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: was the better warrior. Okay, So my theory is that
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: the Bigfoot have taken on that sort of style, that tradition.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Slapping of the houses is a form of counting coup.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: But I totally digress from your first initial statement. I
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: believe that these are hybridizations. They are in stual or
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: like bestiality type of things. But they said that they
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: would they experimented on animals. I totally believe that, and
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: this has been around for so much longer, Like a
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: lot of people are like, oh, this dog man thing
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: is just is just coming up. This is new. I'm like, no,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: it's not. Go look at a Nubis. Anubis was a
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: dog headed god, right, and then we go to I know,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Saint Christopher is a debatable but many people believe and
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: it could be due to a translation, but many people
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: believe that Saint Christopher was a dog headed person. Now
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: there was also whereas there's an I I don't remember
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: the name, but in the Mayan and Aztecs there is
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: a dog headed god as well, so there was this
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: dog they have they.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Have a bat headed one, yes too.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Oh uh yeah. So there was a lot of people
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: believing that Batman came from this this like they're like, look.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: At this is this it was bas tech, I think.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, but it's not. This was a an artist who
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: made this depiction. And then someone made this post go
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: viral saying this was a god, a batman type of god,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: which it wasn't.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: So it wasn't Jared leto Bro.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: So it's it's it's always good to know to investigate
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: these kinds of things. Because there's so many, so many
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: things out there, and like there's so many syops out
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: there to try to credit everything as well they want you.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: But if there's syops, you know you're on the right trail.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: This is this is the thing. If they're trying to
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: discredit it and you know, change the narrative or add
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: more narratives into it, that's usually what they'll do is
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: they'll throw in you know, it could be eighty percent
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: real and twenty percent syops. But as soon as you
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: are able to discredit a syop, then the rest just
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: falls apart. So if you kind of lump this all together,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: let's say nine to eleven, and you say, oh, there
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: was an actual planes, and then there's so many videos,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: even private videos that show these planes like, well, no,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: it actually was a plane that hit the trade center Pentagon.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: It's different story, but correct. But I don't want to
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: go too far into nine eleven because that's a whole
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: other bag of worms. I'm with you though, But that's
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: the thing is that they can like if everybody's believing
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: that this one story, well then they can throw everything
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: else out because oh no, it's all crap because.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: You believe this, Yeah, the one bad apple spoiling the.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Whole exactly thing exactly, And that's what I believe. Sorry,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna that's what I believe. With so many
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: of movements and and uh and groups, so many movements
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: and groups were all started with good intentions, but then
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: they were perverted and taken over and just driven into
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: the ground into like this depravity, you know, into this craziness,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: and all these movements have been like because what's the
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: best way, what's the best way to take care of
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: a movement and to get rid of it is not
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: to fight it. It's just to corrupt it from the
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: inside and make it morally corrupt. And what's even crazier,
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: people still follow it. There's this people still follow this
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: craziness they have.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: They make it almost like disgustingly dramatic in ways to
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: wear like a normal and would be like what the
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: fuck is this? Yes, like I could have gotten on board,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: but now it's like the circus.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: And that's like with these cults, like when we're talking
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: about Magdalena Solis. You know, when when they first started
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: the cult, it was like just drugs and sex, and
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: then it went into this crazy deprevity and people just
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: went along with it instead of like having this moral
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: compass of being able to stand back and say no.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: And and that's the biggest issue with like these political parties.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Like I I can pick the political party that I
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: can that I support, I can still stand back and
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: say that's crap, Like I'm not going to follow them blindly.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: And that's that's important that we have to stop following
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: people blindly. But sorry, like, but you have.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: To use your discernment on everything.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: And it's okay to say that's crap, you know, like
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: I I don't that's the person I support, but that
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: is crap. I don't support that.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: It's so so okay. This is going to be a
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: multi layer question. So what would you say to the
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: people who have recently I know because for somehow I've
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: gotten grouped in with them. They say that people who
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: talk about the nephlem and the follen ones that we're
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: all pushing this propaganda train of like false narrative weirdness,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: and that anybody who gets behind the Nephelene thing, it's
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: like the next we're just you know, pushing like the
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: UFO thing when it was super pop crop circles and
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: all that and everybody was all UFO crazy and that
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: was the thing. Now it's Nepheline. Now we're all pushing
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: this and I've been called all kinds of names for it,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: like I can't believe you're going along with this Nephelin
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: propaganda stuff, and like I feel like if you put
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: enough time into it, it speaks for itself. I don't.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, where are you on that?
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: So I believe that we do take it a step
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: further because we're speculating. But if we go back to
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: Genesis six, one of the oldest books in history. That
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: because the Bible, okay, and everybody's like, oh, the Bible,
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: that's a religious book. No, it's a historical book. Okay,
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: Let's go back to history, and it's talked about for
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: thousands and thousands of years of the Nepheline and the
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: fallen angels. So we can agree that that is that happened.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: That is the truth there. Now, some of the things
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: that I was talking about, and I've said that it's
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: just speculating, you know, I'm speculating that this is what
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: this is. I truly don't know. There's no experts on anything,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: but but that's what we can do right now is
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: just take it step by step and be careful with
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: what we're doing and not. We can't say everything is
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: a every red circle is a is a Nephilim. And
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: if you know what I mean by that, that is
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: like people who take these pictures in Paradalia and their
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: circle everything. Oh I saw big foot, big foot, back
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: foot bigfoot. No, but but it's still out there. We
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: still need to be careful with what we're doing. We
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: have to take our steps forward. And these are my beliefs.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: But I'm not saying that everybody has to believe it.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm I'm open to criticism of what I
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: believe and discussion. But we cannot deny that there are abductions,
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: There are evil people out there. There are history books
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: about the Nephiline, the watchers, the flood everything.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: So the existence of giants in every culture.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, the existence of giants in every culture is there.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: And not just Christian you know, not just in the Bible,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: every single Mexico, yes, what was it? Egypt and go
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: back like tape and all.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: These in North America and the natives talk about the
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: the the long red haired giants as well.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yep, yep.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: This this happens everywhere. But one of the things is
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: to pull knowledge or wisdom out of the population, all
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: you need is one generation. Okay, So if you change
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: the narrative one generation later, you're going to have them
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: believing the new narrative, and then everybody else they're going
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: to be calling, oh, you guys are are liars, you're this,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: you're that, you know, and but everybody else before it
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: was like, no, this is the way it was. But
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: just that one generation, there's that gap. There's that gap,
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: and once you start getting it, then it starts a
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: snowball and that becomes the new truth. Is it the truth? No,
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: it's not, but that is what we're told. That's what's
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: written down in our new books.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: The narrative just is so easy to change. That is
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: one thing that I've heard about speaking of that, that's
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: kind of like what I heard about the Mandela effect.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: The Mandela effect is truly happening, but it's not as
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: crazy as we think it is. It's the one theory
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: I've heard is that it's corporations and government trying to
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: see how easy it is to manipulate the population to
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: believe that something didn't happen even though it did.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: So, wow, that is fucked.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah it is, it completely is.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: So. So then I have to ask you your thoughts
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: on this new discovery thing under the pyramids and all
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: this nonsense, like they've discovered these secrets. And it almost
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: made me think of Edgar Casey for a minute, because
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: he had all these visions of stuff hidden under the
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: sphinx and hidden under the the pyramids and all that.
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: He had a like you got it. Well, this is different,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: this is different. But this is based on his reading
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: some of his readings. Yeah, this is about Atlantis. Visions
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: of Atlantis. Michael Laflemm wrote that book. It was it's
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: a fantastic book. But it has all to do with educacy,
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: predicting that, oh, like the Chamber of Knowledge I can't remember,
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: would be underneath the paw of the sphinx right right now? Okay,
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: So if we thinking engineering style, okay, with these new
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: discoveries underneath the pyramids, I think it's and of course
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: there has to be something underneath the periods. Think about
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: the weight of the pyramids. Okay, each block is minimum
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: one ton, right, so how much weight is sitting on there. Now,
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: if you build a building a sky rise, do you
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: just build it right on the ground or do you
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: actually have to build a foundation. You need to build
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: a huge foundation to support that. So I don't know
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: exactly what those those tunnels are and everything, but it
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: very much could be some sort of engineering support system.
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: Can it be something else more? Yeah, of course it
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: can be. But if we want to look at it
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: scientifically and mathematically, we need to distribute that weight. We
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: need something to hold it up so it's not going
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: to sink into the ground. Okay, So that's what I believe,
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: at least what it can be, But it can definitely
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: be something more.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Well, do you really believe they're just discovering it now? Okay, no,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: me either. If it's been there, it's been there and
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: they've known about it.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: Well, what's his name? And I keep forgetting his name,
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: but like the Egyptian curator, like the guy who's involved
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: of all the antiquities, that guy is.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know his name, but I know who
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: you're talking.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, that guy is an absolute joke, you know there is.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: And here's a question. How many people do you think
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: still believe that the Pyramids were built as tombs.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say, Right, they're supposed
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: to be burial chambers, but they got all this going on.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: Like, we have the Valley of the Kings where all
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: the kings are damned near buried. Okay, I believe there
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: was one pyramid where they found Apacus inside. You know,
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: they found one of the Kings inside one of the pyramids.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Every other one is buried in the Valley of the Kings.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: And we're still like you talk to people, they're still like, oh, yeah,
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: the pyramids, that's where they that's the tombs. You know. No,
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: they're not.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: They're definitely not.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: No. I like, I can't tell you what they are,
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: but I can tell you that they're not a frickin' tomb,
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: because that is not it. There's so much more to them.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: And even when they came out with this new discovery,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: right and they're talking about these cylinders that are there,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: and they say that they're made from the same limestone
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: or whatever that the pyramid is made out of that
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: was quarried like hundreds of miles away, brought there tons
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: of it by what carrier pigeons or something like that,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: and then they want you not to believe your own eyes.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: You know, they don't want you to ask yourself, well,
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: who could move big stones like that? Oh, I don't
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: know giant people. I don't know people who have advanced technology.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know people. It's like you have to literally
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: ask yourself and then you're looking at them. And then
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: if you just go based on your discernment and looking
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: at them, you would know they're like big some kind
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: of big energy conductors or something crazy like that. They
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: got all these little they they're like, I forget what
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: they call them on the inside of the pyramid, but
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: they're like little chambers they're calling them.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're like sounding chambers as well.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: They're supposed to have frequencies in them.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, they're like resonators.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Sorry resonator.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's the word I was looking for. But anyways,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, that's what it was. It was a
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: big tomb and they used a couple hundred slaves, whips
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: and chains and they toted these these massive five ton
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: stones into place. And it's just they've there's been such
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: an effort to get us to not believe our own
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: eyes on a lot of this stuff and it's just
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: it's I'm so glad that you have that, Edgar Casey,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: but because I wasn't sure if you know who I
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: was talking about.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, sleeping the sleeping prophet.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, so what do you think then about I
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: know we we talked about CRYPTI is a little bit.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: Something else that falls in the nepheleem lore is fairies
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. What is your what are your
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: thoughts on that?
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: I that is one area that I did interview Monica Rawlins,
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: who had some good information on fairies, but I haven't
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: done a deep of a dive into into fairies though
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: I believe it's it's all the same now, like they're
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: little people. They're little folk right dwin Days as some
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: people will call them as well. I think they're They're
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: all connected. It doesn't matter where in the world you are,
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: they're all these these little folk now here where I live.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: The little folk that they have is called alushes. But
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: there is a theory about how an alosh is created.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: It's kind of like a what's the word I'm looking
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: for a homunculus. So an alush is kind of like
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: a homunculus. Now, I know I'm getting away from your
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: from fairies. I don't have enough information on fairies to
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: go too deep, but there I will tell you about.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Ahead spiritually created.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: Then the alushes are kind of spiritually created, but they're
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: also it's kind of like a golam. Think of a golam.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: So they would use corn meal and they would use
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: clay and dirt from the area that you're in. You
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: would create this and you would bloodlet on it as well,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: and for nine days you would pray to it, and
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: on the ninth day, this creature, this thing will come
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: alive and protect your land, protect your place.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like a tiny Pinocchio story.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: Kind of kind of yes, didn't have those strings. And
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: but once you died, this this creature, this thing will
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: to go on protecting the land. So if new people
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: come to take over the land, it will start to
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: act out and try to like throw rocks at you
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: and and things like that to get you to leave.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: It will be mischievous, so you need to you need
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: to kind of.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Like appease them, appease them or.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Or or put out dominance, you know, like be dominant,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: like I am now the new owner. I am now
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: the new proprietor of this and you can either serve
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: me or you can leave. And that is that is
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: the gist of the aluses. Now. I know a lot
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: of people have never heard that phrase before. I never
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: did until I moved here. And for those who don't know,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: I live in Mexico in the Yucatan Peninsula. But you
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: can't throw a rock without hitting someone who has their
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: own le'ld say, almost their own personal allus story, or
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: at least know someone who does who's had one.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: So do you believe that the I mean if you
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: you can't for me, and I'm not talking about you,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: but for me, I've always said, you can't be a
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: hypocrite about these things. If you believe in Bigfoot, Mofman
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: and dog Man, and you've had a paranormal experience, and
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: you know that you believe in the nepheline, there's always
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: like this little fine line where it's like, but fairies
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: don't exist. I put it, where are you on it?
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: I believe they have a tiny little.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: I believe all our lore and our legends and our history.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: I think it all existed, just because I haven't looked
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: into it. And I you know, like I am skeptical
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: on many things. It doesn't sound like I am because
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I believe that. I believe that, but
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: it's I believe that they exist. Have I experienced anything
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: to do with the fairy or the fae? No, I
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: have not. But yeah, who am I to say that
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: doesn't exist when I've I've seen some other things that
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: that shouldn't exist, but I've seen it myself. So I
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: do believe that there is a lot of things out
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: there that we don't know or we just can't see.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on that. I mean, I've had
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: paranormal experiences myself. It sounds like you played with the
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: Wiji board one time and you started conjuring some stuff
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: up in your house. But I don't know if you've
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: seen a ghost or anything, but I think that stuff
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: is just as real as anything else. What did you
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: get a demon?
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: So I went before the wig aboard. I've always been
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: able to see things, so I've had experience lifelong experiences.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: I still do to this day. I see stuff on
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: the regular. But my one experience after the wiji aboard
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: was kind of this craziness. When I'm not sure, I'll
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: tell you. So I had came home from being out
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: with some friends. I was like seventeen or eighteen years old.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: I wasn't drinking or anything. And I had gotten home
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: and I remember that the northern lights wrote in full effect,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: and so I was watching them. But I had to
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: be up early in the morning. So I went to sleep,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: tried to go to sleep, and I was watching the
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: clock and watching the hours tick by, and you know,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: as a as you would do when you're younger, you know,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: I fall asleep. Now I have seven hours and fifty
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: three minutes, and then it's seven hours and twelve minutes.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: And so I was watching the clock and tossing and
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: turning them. I felt like I I did not hear
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: like a voice to tell me to do this. I
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: wasn't like in my mind or mind speaking like that.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: But I just felt this urge that I needed to
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: roll over onto my back and look up. So I did,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: and floating above me, about three and a half feet
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: above me, was this shadow being. And it's dark in
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: my room, but I can see the head, the shoulders,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: the neck, you know, I can see the shoulders, the arms,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: and the waist. And when it got down to about
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: the waist, area. It drifted off into a white, vapory,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: wispy smoke. The rest was blacker than black now. Its
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: eyes though, its eyes were glowing red, not like flashlights,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: but like an incandescent glowing red. And and I don't
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: know how long it was there for. And I laid there.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: I was motionless. I could not move. And some people
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: are like, oh, that's sleep process, Like, well, no, I
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: wasn't asleep though. I was like you know when you
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: have your fight flight or freeze, and I was frozen.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. It was maybe there for like
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: three to five seconds, and it disappeared. And I don't
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: know how long I laid there for. I laid there
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: for a long time, and then next thing I know,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: I got up in the morning, and it was kind
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: of that was like the event, you know. I talked
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: about that there being like a bad event that you
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: can shape your life to go in a direction. That
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: was the event. That was my event that I was like,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: I need to do something about this because this was
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: not good.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, yeah, I think some people just are more
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: sensitive to see in this.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: Stuff, right, Yeah. I think we. I think we all
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: have that ability. It's just that some are maybe tuned
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: in a little bit more, or or like perhaps with
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: like mediums or psychics, we have like a muscle that
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: is a little more Strengthen. I'm not saying I'm a
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: medium or psychic, because I don't believe I am at all,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: but I believe that we Yeah, I believe I am
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: sensitive to this all and I'm able to. Maybe I'm
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: just tuned in a little bit more than most. My
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: wife says, is because I had a little bit of
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: a rough childhood or you know, like things were kind
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: of crazy. So instead of living in this reality, I
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: decided to explore other realities.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, childhood trauma can do it to you every time. Well,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: do you think that's why they select certain people to
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: become part of these experiments and be like abducted multiple
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: times over and over again. It's like they have the
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: secret sauce whatever it is that they're looking for. And
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: I think almost they do this ancestry DNA stuff to
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: kind of see if there's something about certain people that
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: could be used in these experiments and stuff, you know,
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: sensitive people's psyche gigs, this kind of stuff.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: Don't get me started on that ancestry DNA kind of stuff.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know what I'm talking about, right, Yeah,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: Oh yes, I do. I do. I believe they're searching.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: They're using it to search for somebody. I believe that
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: they're well I would say somebody, but I believe it's
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: a it's a process that they're like, we know the
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: DNA we're we're looking for, and we now have a
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: database and black Rock now owns that database. Yay.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: So it's nefarious to say the least.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know if I'll get in trouble
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: for saying this, but that's what I think the PCR
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: test was as well.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: Oh sure, one time.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: The PCR test was a DNA sampler as well.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: It's a big collection, a big data collection experiment.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's me being out in the far the
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: far field.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: But I I don't think so.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: I believe that that was there too to gather DNA.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: Well, I think so too. And I think they're looking
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: for specific markers that people can have. And me, like
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: a freaking dumb idiot before I was ever a conspiracy theorist.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: I got one for Christmas, and I did it and
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: now I regret it because I'm like, one day I'm
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: gonna get abducted. I just know it, but.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: I want I wanted to do it as well. My parents.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: My parents are weird. So my parents are like not
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: conspiracy theorists, but sometimes they just don't. There's certain things
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: that they just don't abide by, and that was one
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: of them. My sister had given them for Christmas the
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: DNA ancestry, and they never did it. They also were like,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: Wi Fi is bad, and at that point I was like, no,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: it's not, it's nothing. And then now you know, there's
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: more and more people coming out saying, yeah, the shit's
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: not good for.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: Us, right, Yeah, it cooks your brain and does all kinds.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: Oh sure, sure, that's why I don't use any Bluetooth.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: I use Bluetooth.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: I was just say, my brain's gonna be some fry.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: I walked away from Bluetooth about two years ago and
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: I was like, hey, that's it.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: I'm done creature comforts, you know, because they they are
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: a trojan horse, to say the least. Still everything that
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: they give us as a trojan horse, including the ancestry
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: dn anything, because like, at the end of the day,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: if you find out you're twenty five percent Norwegian, does
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: it really change your life in any way.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, you know, but you know what I
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: really think it is because people are looking for like, oh,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: I'm part native or I'm part black, you know, and
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: they can be like yes, now I can make exotic,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: yes exactly, and it's like, I know, you know what
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: we're all gonna be, this mixed mash kind of a
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: little bit of everything mulatto people. Yeah, we'll all end
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: up beij That's what we're gonna be. We're just gonna
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: be I say too.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: That's what I say too, is we're all gonna end
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: up in like twenty years from now, just a bunch
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: of mulatto. Nobody really. But I've taken up a lot
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: of your time, But I do have one last question
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: for you. I'm just dying to know because it's something
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: that I've covered and it's a hodgepodge of everything that
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: we've talked about. So a long time ago, I did
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: an episode on the Dachtlaf Pass, and there are so
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: many theories. There was a Bigfoot, there was extraterrestrials. They
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: were doing experiments out there with like radiation stuff, and
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: there's just so many theories as to what happened to
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: these people that that died in the Diochtlive Past incident.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: I believe there was nine people died.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: I know, I know a little bit about it.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: But yes, so I saw you had an episode and
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: it was called flight Image three seventy and Dyochtlive Pass.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, and I see I went and my friend went
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: deep on the on the past. What's it call it that?
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: But yes, sure, sure, yeah, what are your thoughts about?
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: And how could they be possibly connected?
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, so well the past in so there was a
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: active military exercise going on and the general saw lights
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: off in that distance where these people were had this incident.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: I believe that it was a cross between a an
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: abduction scenario because I think one of them had his
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: tongue cut out as well. Yeah right, and that ties
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: into cattle mutilation, right, and some one of them had
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: his like chest like blown out as well. It was
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: it was crazy, So I think that ties more into
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: abduction though. I do believe that because a lot of
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: times there is bigfoot sightings around UFO sightings. It's not
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: to say, you know, people always say a correlation does
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: not make causation, but what happens if it does? What
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: happens if there has been so many of these sightings
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: together that they are connected. Maybe maybe they're not like
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot is in the UFO. Maybe the UFO was studying
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot as well, so they're at the same location at
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: the same time, which is possibility. But I think there
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: was abduction and also possible Bigfoot activity on that one.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: I know it's I'm being very vague on that, but well.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: I only ask because when I covered it, I said,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: this is one percent either something supernatural or like a
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: government experiment, and they blasted these guys with like a
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: directed energy weapon or something like that. And the person
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: I was arguing with on that episode said, one they
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: died in an avalanche case closed period. There's nothing supernatural,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: nothing paranormal about it. And it just that just never
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: could settle with me. With the injuries that these dudes sustained.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: Was one of them was orange and one was up
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: in a tree.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I also believe, Yeah, I believe there was
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: radiation too. I definitely believe there was radiation involved with that.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: So when you're saying directed energy weapon, it very much
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: could be that as well, you know, and that's what
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: caused them to freak out and to lose their marbles
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: and literally run out without clothes on and shoes and yeah,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: no shoes, Like Okay, if an avalanche happens, you're going
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: to be buried right then and there. You're not going
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: to go running down a hill because they found their tents.
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  Speaker 2: Why why did they leave their tents if there was
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  Speaker 2: an avalanche and the tents are still standing?
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  Speaker 1: Were cut from the inside?
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  Speaker 2: Correct? Correct?
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  Speaker 1: So what's going on? That's why I just I'm so
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  Speaker 1: glad we're on the same page with that, because I
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  Speaker 1: hadn't heard anybody else talk about that specifically, and I
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: always thought there had to be something more going on
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  Speaker 1: than just slab avalanche is what it's called. I was like,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: my ass, it's a slab avalanche.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Unfortunately it was my friend who did more of
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: the We each picked the subjects. I picked m H
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  Speaker 2: three seventy and.
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  Speaker 1: So what's going on with that? Though?
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: So much, so much so? Aston Forbes is the the
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: closest thing to an expert that you're gonna find, you know,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: I was. I'd loosely follow him, and the airplane was abducted.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: It was taken through a portal. What happened to it?
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know, we don't know. It was spotted on
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: many different occasions. It was spotted on fire as well,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: and the fire could be from all the lithium ion
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: batteries that were in the hole. Now, the fumes from
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: the Litheon Litheon ion batteries are extremely toxic, to the
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: point that as soon as you start to notice something,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: you're done. You are out. So it and it could
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  Speaker 2: have been on autopilot at that point. So where they
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  Speaker 2: discovered it, and I don't think it crashed. I don't believe.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: I believe it was abducted. Now was it abducted by
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: aliens or was it abducted by military or clandestine governments
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: or other I think so. I think they There was
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: so much more to it. There is so much more
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: to it. It is not enough time.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: And about yeah he was on where I found him?
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: Is he was on an episode of Candice Owens. Yes, yeah,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: and he has a video and he's got he went
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: after like some CIA guy and tried to get information.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: And like when you make these statements, I know because
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: I watched the same episode you probably did. There's so
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: many layers to why he thinks that this is what happened.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: And then if you watch the video, you're like, oh,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: one hundred, it flew right into like a Bermuda triangle
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: type of it's like a portal in the sky exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, So he the first time I heard him,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: he was on The Confessionals with Tony Tony Merkle, and
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: I was like, I gotta have this guy on and
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: he was going to come on my show, but then
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: we just couldn't. We couldn't connect at that time. But
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: now he's kind of blowing up even more because it
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: was kind of like a wave actually, so he was
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: really promoting it and they thought they had something, but
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: then there was discredits coming in so like the SI
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: of to discredit him, so he kind of dropped out.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: But then he was able to prove the legitimacy of
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: all the videos that he has, including like he went
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: down into specifics of like this is a Predator drone
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: with a camera module on this side videoing this. They
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: also had the heat the like the flur camera as
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: well that that does the heat.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: It signals and.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, the signatures yes. So it's extremely extremely interesting and
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: how deep he goes. So I kind of like touched
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: on it as best as I could there was the
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: theory that the theory that the pilot was on a
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: suicide mission, which is completely ridiculous, garbage as fuck, ar badge.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: And and for those people who are out there saying,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: just leave it alone, let these let these people, let
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: the victims rest, you know, quit bringing this up. Have
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: you talked to the families, because the families aren't buying
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: this at all, you know, like like, don't don't assume
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: for someone else, don't. I hate that. Actually when people
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: get offended for someone else without actually knowing the whole story.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: It's like completely yes, you you got to know. These
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: families are in dire straits because they know they were taken.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: They know that this was all bullshit. They know it
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: was all crap and the story that they're given is
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: not true. And like the the aliaryon that they that
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: they found in the water, you know, it had a
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: certain amount of muscle growth on it, like you know,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: like the clams on it, the muscles on it were
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: is only for a certain amount of time. So it
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: had only been in the water for this x amount
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: of time and that was like, let's say, for like
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: five months, and that was when they found it was
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: like a year and a half or two years later
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: or something ridiculous. So it's like where was this? And
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: they did find parts, they did find pieces on these
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: other areas, but it's like, no, this, what happened to this?
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: It never none of it adds up actually, and the
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: timeline is all crazy. And think of it like cause
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: I know they say that about think think of the
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: families and why are you making this big deal? Like okay,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: think of it like this if you one of your
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: loved ones was murdered. Okay, I'm sure you don't want
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: them to have autopsy and be sliced open and do
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: all this stuff. I'm sure you don't want them to
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: be doing forensics and trying. But we're trying to catch
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: the killer, asshole. That's the point, I mean, the point
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: we get it like rip to the victims, but let
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: us do what we need to do so they have justice.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: That's the point. Yes, this is the point.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: People died or people are missing, Okay, Like I am
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: not denying that at all. You know, we go to
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: like nine to eleven as well. Completely there were people
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: that were people that die, people that are missing, but
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: the true narrative has never been told. They're like, well,
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: just just let it go. No, because those people are
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: still running out there, they're still doing stuff and you're
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: okay with it. No, because this is gonna happen again,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: because it has happened again multiple times because guess what
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: you just said, Oh, just leave it go, just don't
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: talk about it. No, that we need to talk about this.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: We need to make so much noise that they actually
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: start to look into this. Like there is over three
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: thousand architects that have signed a petition for them to
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: open the investigation on Building seven, you know, because they
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: all agree, because so many of them were showing the
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: video and they all said, oh, that's a controlled demolition.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: That's controlled demolition. Not one has said that, oh that's
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: that's a building coming down naturally, you know from structural fires,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: which is like nothing nothing.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there are people out there wanting answers, and then
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: there's the people out there who just don't have a
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: clue and they just believe that everything is fine in
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: this world.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: Well, those people are definitely going to find no interest
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: in either one of our podcasts because I like to
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: dig deep. I like to find the answers. I think
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: people deserve to know the truth, and it's important now
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: more than ever because so many weird things are coming
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: out JFK files, there's cylinders under the pyramid, there's this,
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: there's that we're going to get disclosure were people need
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: to understand where to put their trust into question everything
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: because there's just so we're being inundated right now with
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: this crazy bullshit.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: Which that's one thing, Like I'm kind of stepping back
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: a little bit because there's so much going out right now,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: and when when we get a boatload of information given
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: to us, I'm like, Okay, what are they justtry from us?
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: What's over that way, what's going on over here? You
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: know now? Or is this the truth? Are we actually
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: given the truth? Or is this this kind of misleading information?
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: And so you gotta do it.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, for those of my listeners who have never
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: heard you before, I'm sure they heard the Magdalene episode
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: because that was awesome, But if they are listening for
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: the first time, can you tell everyone where they can
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: find your work?
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: Sure? Yeah, I'm I'm I'm like you. I'm on YouTube,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: So I am I am at Codega's Codex of Curiosities.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: I interview all walks of people, people who've had experiences, experiencers, researchers,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: and everybody in between. And it's everything from Bigfoot, Cryptid's
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: alien abductions to Atlantis, Edgar Casey, Gary, Wayne Nephelim, all
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: the above.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: I love it all too.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: Oh yes, and Spotify, Apple YouTube rumble.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: What if one of the listeners has seen a UFO
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: or something like that, they want to get in touch
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: with you. How do you want people to contact you?
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they can. They can reach out faith thanks
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: for that. They can reach out to like Facebook, Rye Vos,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: I have my my group. I know Facebook is kind
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: of like this dying thing, but for some reason, I
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: just touched. I'm attached to it.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: I still have Facebook.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm still on I'm on Instagram as well. Or
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: they can or they can email codecs of Curiosities at
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: gmail dot com and reach out and uh, we'll have
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: a discussion.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: That's so awesome. I'm so glad you came on. I
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: had all these questions typed up because I finally found
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: a podcast that's like talking about all the same things
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: I'm interested in. So I hope I didn't talk your
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: ear off, but thanks.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: Not at all. It was great. It was a great
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: conversation I thoroughly appreciate, I thoroughly enjoyed it.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, Me too. And you know, whether it's
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: on a cult reject or my show, or if I
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: come on your show or whatever. I hope to work
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: with you again in the future. And thanks to all
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: the listeners out there, we will catch you on the
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: next one.