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SMNTY Classics: The Princess is In Another Castle · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha. I'm not good stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Never told you, production by heard you, And for today's classic,
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  Speaker 2: we are bringing back a happy hour that was surprisingly popular.
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  Speaker 1: I got a lot of response for this.
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  Speaker 2: One, which was my review of the Super Mario Brothers movie.
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  Speaker 1: So I was surprised.
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  Speaker 2: At how many people interacted with this and wrote in
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  Speaker 2: about this. I recently have watched the new one, Super
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  Speaker 2: Mario Brothers Galaxy, which is now streaming. Yes, so I'm
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  Speaker 2: not gotta spoil it. I think outside of like the trailers,
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  Speaker 2: but I'll give you, like my quick here's what I
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  Speaker 2: think about it. So in this episode about the first one,
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  Speaker 2: I was talking about how.
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  Speaker 3: I was a.
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  Speaker 2: Little concerned about how it was so Bowser wants to
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  Speaker 2: marry Peaches and it doesn't matter what she wants, and
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't know her, and he doesn't care about her
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  Speaker 2: and all of this stuff, which is you know, on
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  Speaker 2: course with the game. It's not like it came out
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  Speaker 2: of nowhere. And I'll talk about this more in a second.
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  Speaker 2: But I also felt like they were trying to make
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  Speaker 2: her super badass because they knew they had this reputation
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  Speaker 2: of the women always being the damsel in distress. The
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  Speaker 2: princess is always in your castle and another castle, that
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  Speaker 2: whole thing, and so they're trying to make her stronger,
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  Speaker 2: but she's still kind of ended up being like seen
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  Speaker 2: as a bride. But anyway, this one is much more
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  Speaker 2: princess kidnappy. It's less marriage y, so more kidnappy. So Rosalina,
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  Speaker 2: who is like presented as one of the most powerful,
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  Speaker 2: if not the most powerful being in the galaxy, is
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  Speaker 2: kidnapped in the beginning and pretty much spends most of
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  Speaker 2: her time being kidnapped and captured. Yeah she does have
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  Speaker 2: a like cool fight in the beginning, but yeah.
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  Speaker 1: She mostly.
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  Speaker 2: Is not not really there, kind of caged away. And
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  Speaker 2: one of the things that's got to me too is
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  Speaker 2: that there was this element of motherhood I wasn't quite
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  Speaker 2: expecting with Rosalina having all of her little star babies,
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  Speaker 2: and in the first one, you know, Peach kind of
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  Speaker 2: have all of her mushroom children, I guess, but they
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  Speaker 2: weren't presented as children so much. This was with Rosealina
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  Speaker 2: was very much like mother child.
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  Speaker 1: She has this hold on.
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  Speaker 2: Like no one hurts my goods, all right, that's okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's legit. But I just wasn't necessarily expecting that element.
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  Speaker 2: There's a whole stealing women's power thing that's going on
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  Speaker 2: here because they're essentially trying to drain Rosalina. Bowser and
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  Speaker 2: his son are trying to drain Rosaline's power. But there's
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  Speaker 2: also this dichotomy of absent fathers because in the first one,
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  Speaker 2: it's made clear that Mario's father does not approve of
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  Speaker 2: him and thinks he's a failure. And so Mario and
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  Speaker 2: Bowser of like this bonding moment over that, and so
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  Speaker 2: did him and DK in the first one. I guess wait,
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  Speaker 2: they called Donkey Kong d K d K Donkey Ye.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I knew that was coming.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah's going to try to trigger me.
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  Speaker 4: You knew, because I was I was just asking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 2: So there's this element of like absent fathers because Bowser
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  Speaker 2: wasn't there during the childhood of his son, Bowser Junior,
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  Speaker 2: who is kind of the main villain of this one,
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  Speaker 2: and Bowser Junior is trying to do anything to prove, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm worthy of your attention and we can
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  Speaker 2: have all of these things that we used to talk
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  Speaker 2: about back when he was around. So it was very
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  Speaker 2: much passing on Bowser passing on this idea let's just
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  Speaker 2: destroy everybody and roll the galaxy together, which his son internalized,
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  Speaker 2: and now Bowser has the moment of like, oh, I
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't have taught him that. Now I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: to do. So there's that going on. There's still these
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  Speaker 2: elements of rejection, lingering, rejection Bowser. I feel that Peaches,
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  Speaker 2: in his words, humiliated him at his wedding, which again
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  Speaker 2: she did not want to be there.
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  Speaker 1: He knew she didn't want to be there, and he
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  Speaker 1: called it my wedding, not there anyway. So there's.
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  Speaker 2: Going back to the point I was talking about earlier.
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  Speaker 2: I kind of feel like, and this isn't unique to
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  Speaker 2: this property, because a lot of these big franchises do
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  Speaker 2: have a history of damsel in distress. Women are only
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  Speaker 2: there for serving the plot of the men. So I
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  Speaker 2: feel like what a lot of people are doing a
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  Speaker 2: lot of these franchises aren't doing, is they're trying to
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  Speaker 2: pivot and sort of overcorrect wherein it's a female character
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  Speaker 2: like Peach who you never see how she got so
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  Speaker 2: strong or so tough or whatever she just is, but
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  Speaker 2: then she still ends up being sidelined. So it feels
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  Speaker 2: kind of like you're trying to have your cake and
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  Speaker 2: eat it too. Like they're still not like the main characters.
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  Speaker 2: They don't necessarily have the best story or like flesh
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  Speaker 2: out story, but they're not like weak in quotes, like
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  Speaker 2: they do know how to fight and do all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Like Rosalina, as I said, most powerful person in the galaxy,
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  Speaker 2: and it's in theory, but what I mean, most of
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  Speaker 2: the movie is her not captured, So I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: there's just I feel like there's a tension there of
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  Speaker 2: they're trying to get away from that history and maybe
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  Speaker 2: also honor the history, but also they still want to
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  Speaker 2: give the main storylines to the dudes, and yeah, this
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  Speaker 2: is Rosalina is kind of treated as like a reward
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  Speaker 2: to be used, which is very much what happens in
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  Speaker 2: the games. You can see our episode on we did
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  Speaker 2: one on Princess Peach, which is when I learned that
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  Speaker 2: you thought it was princesstoad Stool.
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  Speaker 4: She was okay, she thing was You're right, early early
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  Speaker 4: millennials know.
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  Speaker 1: She was Princess.
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  Speaker 4: Told school, who the hell is Princess Peach.
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  Speaker 2: You can hear our confusion in the episode. It's quite
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  Speaker 2: hilarious because I was like, you don't know who Princess Peaches.
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  Speaker 1: We played Mario.
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  Speaker 4: Gart together, Princess tod Stool.
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  Speaker 2: We figured it out in the end, we figured it out.
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  Speaker 2: But yeahspect you can go check that episode out. I
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  Speaker 2: will say I kind of these movies are very nostalgic.
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  Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't say that they're good. There's a part
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  Speaker 2: of me that's like kind of mad at a lot
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  Speaker 2: of them. But I watched it and I enjoyed it,
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  Speaker 2: Like I don't know how to square that within myself,
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  Speaker 2: but it did make me kind of sad that this
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  Speaker 2: is some people's first introduction to Roselna. So if you've
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  Speaker 2: never played the games, this is how you'll see her.
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  Speaker 2: But then I was thinking about it more and I
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  Speaker 2: was like, she's kind of a non person in the
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  Speaker 2: games too, So I don't know, I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: to make of it. Voice by Bree Larson by the way, Uh, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they're very nostalgic. I think for people either that music
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  Speaker 2: kicks in you saw somebody, you heard Samantha just says
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  Speaker 2: DK and that song is there.
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  Speaker 1: The music.
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  Speaker 2: One of the characters they introduced in this one, besides you,
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  Speaker 2: she is Starfux and I have very fond memories of
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  Speaker 2: star Fox because it's from of the few games that
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  Speaker 2: my best friend Katie growing up, she would play you normally,
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  Speaker 2: I was the one that would play and she would watch,
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  Speaker 2: but she was the one. I've never played at star Fox,
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  Speaker 2: but I watched her play it, and I knew about
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  Speaker 2: her hatred of the character Slippy in it, and they
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: have a joke in there about how Slippy is the worst,
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  Speaker 2: so it kind of made me laugh.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's I'm kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Embarrassed about how much more I could say about this,
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  Speaker 2: but that's what I'll say for now.
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  Speaker 4: You should have a lot of thoughts on.
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  Speaker 2: This, yes, yeah, and I had a lot of thoughts
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  Speaker 2: about the first one too, so we're dead. If you
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  Speaker 2: missed this one the first time around, please enjoy this
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  Speaker 2: classic episode. Hey, this is Sanny and Samantha and a
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• 9:51
  Speaker 2: welcome to another edition of Happy Hour. As always, if
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  Speaker 2: you choose to drink or whatever, you're doing it responsibly.
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  Speaker 2: What are you sitting on, Samantha.
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  Speaker 4: I'm drinking tap? Well, I guess what is it? Room
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  Speaker 2: We'll have to catch up on that afterwards. Yes, all right,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sitting on a hot toddy. I basically just oh
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  Speaker 1: It is, and.
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  Speaker 2: I've been having some panic moments about it if you
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  Speaker 2: can hear it a little bit, I think. But because
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  Speaker 2: of that, I made hot toddy, which is essentially I
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  Speaker 2: just put water.
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  Speaker 1: I heated it up. It's like lukewarm.
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  Speaker 2: It's really good, which is a pun for my my
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  Speaker 1: I love that I've included and you are you are?
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  Speaker 1: Makes you really happy? Yes? I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So this episode, I know there's a lot going on.
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  Speaker 2: There's a what we need to talk about. We are
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  Speaker 2: going to talk about it, I promise. But I actually
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  Speaker 2: wanted to talk about this. I mentioned it a month
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  Speaker 2: ago that I watched I gave in and watched the
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  Speaker 2: new Super Mario Brothers movie. I already had this written
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  Speaker 2: because I think I wrote it like while I was
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  Speaker 2: watching it. But I didn't want to release it during
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  Speaker 2: Pride month because Chris Pratt. Oh yeah yeah, So I
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  Speaker 2: was like, that doesn't feel right, So I will wait.
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  Speaker 1: It's a bit dated, but we are there.
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  Speaker 2: I don't I wouldn't say there's even spoilers, but if
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  Speaker 2: you care, we are going to be talking about it.
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  Speaker 1: But it is funny because.
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  Speaker 4: What I thought you were talking about doing the old
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  Speaker 4: Super Marios.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yes, so it is funny though, because your partner
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  Speaker 2: and I I had never seen it, or if I had,
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  Speaker 2: I was a kid and did not remember it at all,
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  Speaker 2: and we tried to stay up watching it, and it
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  Speaker 2: was more bizarre than I could even. I knew it
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  Speaker 2: was going to be strange, but it was stranger, and
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  Speaker 2: I didn't make it to the end. I need, I
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  Speaker 2: need to go back and watch it.
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  Speaker 4: I think need is a very strong word.
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  Speaker 2: No, I for me, it's in need. For other people
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  Speaker 2: avoid rightfully so, but for me, it's in need. It
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  Speaker 2: actually came up my mom came to visit me in
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  Speaker 2: Atlanta with my little brother and we had lunch, and
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  Speaker 2: somehow it came up. Me and my little brother talked
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  Speaker 2: about video games a lot, so I imagine that's what happened.
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  Speaker 1: But my mom had.
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  Speaker 2: Seen the old one and was like, didn't I have
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  Speaker 2: like Bob Hoskins.
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  Speaker 4: It was like, yep, sure, we all talk about him.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it's listeners described.
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  Speaker 4: I think I hope there's nothing bad about him.
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  Speaker 1: Me too, Me too. Oh gosh, it's it's so strange.
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  Speaker 1: It's this, but so is this one. Okay, So.
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  Speaker 2: I was trying to avoid more because of the Chris
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  Speaker 2: Pratt thing, but also just like I wasn't really excited
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  Speaker 2: about it.
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  Speaker 1: But then.
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  Speaker 2: The writers strike happens, and a lot of the entertainment
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  Speaker 2: I usually enjoyed kind of went away. And I'm not
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  Speaker 2: super Samantha and I were just talking about this. I
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: don't like TV shows give me anxiety. They give me anxiety.
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  Speaker 2: I like something that's like one and done, and so
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  Speaker 2: I eventually I gave in and I watched this movie.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen it several times now. I will admit the
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  Speaker 2: thing that it has going for it is nostalgia. It
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  Speaker 2: is very, very nostalgic as a kid who grew up
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  Speaker 2: playing like Donkey Kong, that whole scene, all the music.
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  Speaker 2: It made me remember when I made you listen to
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  Speaker 2: that theme song and I was quoting it incessantly for
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  Speaker 2: a while, and it made me laugh because I used
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  Speaker 2: to say with relative ease a.
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  Speaker 4: Lot, yes, And I believe you and my partner still
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  Speaker 4: do this, and I just there's obvious, like I am
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  Speaker 4: the parent and you two are the children, having a
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  Speaker 4: moment together and I am very lost and never come back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, are you like you just kind of wander away?
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  Speaker 4: I just like it's literally one of those like are
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  Speaker 4: they hurting anyone?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, moving on.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, but I looked back at our the last time
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  Speaker 2: you and I ran the Peachey Road Race, which happens
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  Speaker 2: every July fourth in person, your partner had texted me
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  Speaker 2: did you finish with relative ease?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 4: And if he had sometimes to me, I'd be like, what.
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  Speaker 2: I still say? I love it? If you don't know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. The theme song for the N
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  Speaker 2: sixty four Donkey Kong is horrible and hilarious, but it
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  Speaker 2: is in the movie that was a fun like so
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  Speaker 2: the music is really fun. There's like a Mario Kart
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  Speaker 2: scene and yeah, that's really what it ads going for.
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  Speaker 2: It is sort of the like, oh these were the
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  Speaker 2: games I played or grew up with, or what have you?
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  Speaker 2: Rainbow Road sing. This isn't really a review. I mean
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  Speaker 2: I am reviewing it, but what I more wanted to
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  Speaker 2: talk about is because we had are very hilarious in
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  Speaker 2: my opinion, Princess Peach slash Toadstool episode in which it
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  Speaker 2: was hilarious in that you kept saying you didn't know
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  Speaker 2: who Princess Peach was, and I was like, I've seen
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  Speaker 2: you play and.
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  Speaker 4: I had no idea that's what she was called in
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  Speaker 4: my head. Her name is Princess Toadstool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it took us name change.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, it didn't make sense to me.
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  Speaker 1: But you got your Jack Black theme song that I
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  Speaker 1: sing to your dog, now you do?
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  Speaker 4: You don't sing to my dog?
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  Speaker 1: I once.
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  Speaker 2: Well, well, anyway, so you should go check out that
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  Speaker 2: episode if you haven't, because we kind of talked about
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  Speaker 2: sort of the sexism in these games, especially when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to Peach is sort of your prize. The princess
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  Speaker 2: is not a castle, which they have a joke about
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  Speaker 2: in this movie. It was interesting because they try to
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  Speaker 2: make a Peach more bad and I would say she
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  Speaker 2: is she is, uh, But ultimately it does all come
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  Speaker 2: down to Bowser is in love with her and wants
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  Speaker 2: to marry her and is going to destroy her whole kingdom,
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  Speaker 2: the Mushroom Kingdom if she doesn't agree, And so it's
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  Speaker 2: weird because it's like they try to make her a
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  Speaker 2: stronger character, like more of a character, and she definitely
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  Speaker 2: has like she has, she's really proficient with weapons.
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  Speaker 1: She's really to show up Mario a lot.
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  Speaker 2: But ultimately it does boil down to He's trying to
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  Speaker 2: Bowser's trying to marry her. And I was watching this
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  Speaker 2: and it's not like that's new at all, because that
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  Speaker 2: is like the game, that is exactly the plot we
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  Speaker 2: talked about it in that episode we did on Princess
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  Speaker 2: Peach lashto Tool that is the plot of one of
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  Speaker 2: the games, is that he like tries to not only
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  Speaker 2: kidnap her, which he does in almost everyone, but he.
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  Speaker 1: Tries to marry her.
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  Speaker 2: And it was weird because I was watching this as
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  Speaker 2: an adult and I was like, I can't believe it's
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty three and I'm watching a movie where marriage
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: is kind of being used as a weapon, where it's
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  Speaker 2: very much like he's going to control her via marriage
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  Speaker 2: and if she doesn't agree, he's going to kill everyone
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  Speaker 2: she cares about. Obviously, yes, And and it's framed is
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  Speaker 2: very funny and Jack Black is amazing, Like the song
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  Speaker 2: is really good. He's really great actor. He's really funny
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  Speaker 2: in it. But it's like kind of the funny aspect
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  Speaker 2: of Toxic masculinity because he has so many lines that
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  Speaker 2: are funny, but when you think about them, you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this is real messed up. Like he's essentially we're supposed
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  Speaker 2: to laugh because he's this.
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  Speaker 1: Big villain and he's like, oh, I want to have.
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  Speaker 3: The happy fairy tale wedding, and you're like aha, but
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  Speaker 3: then like, oh no, he's actually like trying to manipulate
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  Speaker 3: this person, who he says is like beautiful and smart
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  Speaker 3: and straw all this stuff into marrying him, and he
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  Speaker 3: thinks that will make him very, very happy.
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  Speaker 1: And he has a.
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  Speaker 2: Line where he's yelling at Mario where he's like I
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  Speaker 2: was finally gonna be happy, which I feel is like
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  Speaker 2: very in cell kind of language when you're like talking
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  Speaker 2: about what you're you know, if only this woman would
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  Speaker 2: give me what I want, I would be happy and
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  Speaker 2: then it would be fine.
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  Speaker 1: But instance she didn't, and now he's resorting to all
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: this violence.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: And I bet a lot of you listening are like, Eddie,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: this was like a cartoon movie for kids, but I
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: can't turn off my feminist brain. And I was watching
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: this and I just thought, you know, kids are probably
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: watching it, loving it, and we're not it's strange to me.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: I guess that it's still that was the plot line,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: or maybe not strange, but not something I'm comforted by, right.
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, essentially we were. It does feel like a
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: step back when for so long we've been like, oh, yay,
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: we finally have a superhero or heroes that are women
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: who can do their own thing. But then we talked
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: about Marvel like yay women, Oh no, women are bad.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Apparently Still it gets the push back and forth of
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: like you're kind of doing it, but you're doing the
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: minimal and doing it and then you're doing it in
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: a way that's just not really well done. So is
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: it more now?
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: I saw an article today we need to come back
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: to but it was like Marvel, you got to stop
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: fridging your women. But yeah, I mean essentially because like
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: they they did, like I said, they made her stronger,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: they made her more bad, but it felt very much
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: like they knew people were gonna be like mad about it,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: so like no, no, no, no, she's strong. See, can
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: she can hold her own she can do all this
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: stuff with weapons all and whatever.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: But then they were like still.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: Again, I kind of go back to the mad Max,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: the new version with Charlie's their own, but like everybody
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: was so mad because it was like feminist because she
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: was the one that was driving the truck and there's
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: was women and all these things. But I'm like, but
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: still in the end, it was the Max dude who
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: had to sacrifice himself to save them all. He was
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: still the lead with this Charlie's character just staring in
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: anguish half the time. Like that was and I'm like,
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: it was a good movie. I wanted to support it
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: just because everybody, all the men were mad. I'm like,
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: this is the movie that you're mad at? Like this
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: is this one? Like if all the movies should be
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: mad at, it's say something like kill Bill, which the
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: antagonist is a woman that's killing everyone, including the teacher,
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: the main hero guy, and somehow y'all are okay with this,
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: like because it was made by a dude who kind
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: of actively hates women. I don't know, Like I'm not sure,
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: but the whole stance is like it's not as feminist
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: as you think it is, but you're mad because it's
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: implying they could be.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the interesting thing because we've talked about that
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: a lot, because I feel like there's this thing especially
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: in like traditionally perceived as masculine spieces, so video games
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: is a huge one. And in fact, there was an
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: article did you see this Smith that there's an article
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: that came out the other day that said more women
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: play video games? And it got like raaks with the
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: cools by men who are like, that's some pop that's impossible.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: It was just like a It was just a straight
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: up like this is the survey found and they were.
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: Like, oh, yes, yes, So this is still like a
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: huge deal in the video game world.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: And I feel like in a lot of those cases
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: and a lot of those spaces, it's you can have
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: your women, you can have your like female character be
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: a little bit stronger, but only to a point, only
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: until she's still sexualized, only like she still has to
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: fit in our like masculine gaze.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: And the fact that this was like.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: A wedding storyline used to entrap her as even though
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: she's like quote, you know, more bad, it feels very
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: much like she's still being seen.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: The Maria honestly gay because I played it for a
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: split second and then my partner enjoyed it way more
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: because I got to a point I'm like, I'm gonna
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: die all the time, so I quit now. Is the
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: plot point to rescue the princess?
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: I think it is.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Is that the one?
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: So there is one game where the exact plot point
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: is that Bowser's in like a white wedding suit.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: He's got a top.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's I think I remember, Like, this
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: sounds really familiar. And I've never watched this movie. I've
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: never watched the previews. I know nothing about it. I
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: knew that Chris Pratt was gonna be the voice. I
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: was like, why, it doesn't even make sense. It's not sense.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: So also to say that I have no interest, but
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: I feel like I think the Odyssey is the one
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: where the dude's like, I got I'm gonna marry her
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: and keeps kidnapping her and then he sends a Tinchman
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: to fight Mario in different scenarios, which I always die.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: I always die. This is why I hate these games.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Been on the switch, still angry, It's okay, I'm okay.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: But the plum point is that he has to get her,
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: him and Hattie whatever the name of the hat is. Yes,
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: that's how you can be a co op and I'm
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: still bad at it, but I'm trying to remember I
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: think that's the whole plot point. And I'm like, that's
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: a newer game and it's one of the most popular
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: games out there. The fact that it is a newer game,
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: I guess you have to have some kind of ultimate goal,
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: but it seems odd that this is the ultimate goal,
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: the marriage line, because I don't feel like the Super
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: Mario three that was the intent. It was just to
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: help her to find her right right.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: A lot of them are just She's like, not in
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: your castle, you have to find her.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: And I will say.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Maybe not in defensive but to clarify in the movie,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: she does she agrees to the marriage because she's trying
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: to protect her people, but she does have a plan
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: to get out of it, and does she does attack
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Bowser and he was like, well, then we're wreaking up
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: right now. So yeah, I'm working on my voices of
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: good yeah, thank you.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Again.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: One of those things where I feel like they did.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: They knew that our conversation has changed since the games
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: came out. People wouldn't be happy if that was the
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: whole plot point, so they kept trying to give you
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: like no seapeaches really strong and she was, but it
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: still felt like just a little bit and she still
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: ended up. Yeah, Mario had to save her and Bowser,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: perhaps not surprisingly, did not take rejection really well. And
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: so there's like this whole scene that I was just
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: a iagining kids watching of this guy being like, you've
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: ruined everything, you made me so sell like all this stuff.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: And then yeah, Mario and Luigi's ate the day it
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: really you know, like I said, it was nostalgic. I
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: liked that part of it that I just thought, I
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: just because it's really really popular. That movie has been
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: the number one on like all renting platforms since it
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: became available to rent.
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: Really yeah, he was the only person that I know
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: that's watched that movie.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: I don't know a lot of people though.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Well, but I mean I imagine a lot of its kids,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: a lot of its kids watching it, and it it just.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: It is a step forward in some ways, but in
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: so many ways.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I was like, but you're still you still want this
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: way Mario, she doesn't. It's definitely gonna be a sequel
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: because at the end, like Yoshi, who wasn't in it,
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: comes out of his like egg, So it kind of
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: been down a like eighties like whoo oh wait, yo,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: she's coming on and the next one. Yeah, I would
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: assume they made enough money. I'm sure they're gonna make
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: another one. But yeah, I just you know what if
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: you if you listeners haven't watched it, you want to.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I just I would love to hear your thoughts about it,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: because literally I was watching it, I was like, am I.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Being too much about this? Like I don't think I am.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: It's not it is odd, it is very strange. I will.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I am also going to Universal, as I've said, not
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: a sponsor because the Last of Us is going to
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: be there.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: But they have over the whole thing or is it
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: just one little area?
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Have you ever been during Halloween handed nights? No?
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: I think we went to the Disney World and it
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: was way.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah that was different. Yeah. So basically they there's
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: ten haunted houses and they just pop up. It's every
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: the whole park, the Universal studios, but they're not they
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: don't take over like a ride or anything.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: All the rides are still open.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: But there is a Mario Land in Universal now, so
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I will be going.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: It has a Mario Kart ride.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I've heard interesting things about it, mostly that it's just
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: like not complete, nothing bad.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: But it's finished, like you're not going to die on it,
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: are you?
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: No?
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: No, okay, I mean it is not complete.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry to clarify. I meant the part that part
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: of the park. The ride is complete. Okay, okay, okay, yes,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: but I will be taking pictures and I will I'll
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: report back. It's a it's I think it's going to
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: be strange because it's got like the ride has like
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: three D it's like three D glasses where you're I
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: don't know, shooting off red shells and stuff.
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: Oh, I.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Know, I'm a little concerned. I think I'll be fine,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: but I don't know about.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Some of my friends that would be so sick. I'll
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: report back, yeah, let me know.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but in the meantime, cheers, cheers.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: That's I could have gone on and on, but that's
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: what I'll say about the new super Maris Brothers movie.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Although also one more thing. The age difference between the
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: actors kind of weves me out.
• 30:28
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• 30:36
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