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KeyForge: Certain Darkness Sells Out – CMON Ghost Galaxy Do Better · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 4: Hello, Key Ford community, glad to be here.
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  Speaker 2: So on this episode of Bitching with Arkan's Corner.
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  Speaker 3: Boy, howdy am I ready?
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  Speaker 2: Are you ready?
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  Speaker 4: We have a new segment? Come on, GG Do Better.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's just called ARCS quarter. I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I've it was a weekly episode. Was whining a little
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  Speaker 5: bit last time.
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  Speaker 3: That's our game.
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  Speaker 4: He has Team AC, so.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he is, he is the AC team. So
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  Speaker 2: the h F F S team. I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: that was the smartest idea, but maybe somebody will listen.
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  Speaker 2: Now who knows it was a Canadian thing?
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  Speaker 3: You never know, right, you.
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  Speaker 2: Ja walk away from his computer. I can't, we can't
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  Speaker 2: do it. But in this episode of Come On GG
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  Speaker 2: Do Better, Certain Darkness sold out?
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  Speaker 3: Question mark certainly not darkness? What what do you mean
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  Speaker 3: sold out? Okay, how can I guess it?
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  Speaker 2: Possible? I guess you can't get it no more.
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  Speaker 3: It is out. If you go to the website, it
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  Speaker 3: says sold out. If you contact those galaxies, they confirm
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  Speaker 3: it's sold.
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  Speaker 5: Out because everybody already has their piles of it already, right,
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  Speaker 5: That's why.
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  Speaker 2: That's definitely why hey us, tell us Tobin you got
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  Speaker 2: your certain Darkness. We'll wait for him to respond. I
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  Speaker 2: believe the answer. There was also spot in chat. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he'll respond in chat, but he doesn't. They don't. Nobody
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  Speaker 2: has certain darkness yet. It's not even out yet, and
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  Speaker 2: you can't.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah there was, there was Michigan. So there are a
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  Speaker 4: couple of people who do have it. The problem is
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  Speaker 4: is that we have We're have to be trying to
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  Speaker 4: work with game stores. So with our own local game store,
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  Speaker 4: it's not Hey, we just get to place the order.
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  Speaker 4: We had to talk to the person who would be
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  Speaker 4: in charge for the marketing. Then we had to go
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  Speaker 4: ahead and send that over to someone else who's going
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  Speaker 4: to go ahead and do the ordering. By the time
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  Speaker 4: they get around to it, it went in and the
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  Speaker 4: answer is sold out. And that's where it's frustrating, because
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  Speaker 4: you have a game group, you have people who are
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  Speaker 4: actually playing and who have been showing up for years.
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  Speaker 4: This store is one of the retailers who backs Gigi.
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  Speaker 4: We're frankly waiting for more PV to be able to
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  Speaker 4: actually come to us, and yep, going won't be able
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  Speaker 4: to participate. Wait wait, wait, actual fun event for the year. Wait.
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  Speaker 5: I all right, So I misunderstood when you guys were
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  Speaker 5: complaining before the cast. I thought we were all widing
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  Speaker 5: about how they're bad at shipping stuff and it still
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  Speaker 5: hasn't arrived.
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  Speaker 2: You guys weren't order it. Part Part A is yes,
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  Speaker 2: they're bad at shipping stuff and it hasn't arrived. Part
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  Speaker 2: B is yeah, we can't even order it now because
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  Speaker 2: I guess when they say that this is coming out,
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  Speaker 2: you have like a two week window and then if
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  Speaker 2: you haven't made it, that it's over.
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  Speaker 3: There was less than a month between when yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: and you and then it was like a week after
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  Speaker 3: that before it showed up on their page to even
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  Speaker 3: order it, and then it was even and then yeah,
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  Speaker 3: less than a month between that and when you finally
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  Speaker 3: went in and it sold out. So yes, as Jeriff
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  Speaker 3: saying like, I'm also trying to schedule with another store,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm sorry, Like this game is like fourth tier
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  Speaker 3: on their list of shit that they care about, right like,
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  Speaker 3: and that's making up tiers of course, where.
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  Speaker 2: You're right, you're about fourth tier, right like? Where fourth here, generous.
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  Speaker 3: We are in the tier. Yeah, we're in the tier
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  Speaker 3: where like the players come and bag and then when
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  Speaker 3: the store is like, okay, I have some time to
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  Speaker 3: deal with you two weeks later, let's talk about scheduling this,
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  Speaker 3: and you're like, we're supposedly scheduled in September, and they're like,
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  Speaker 3: well by the time we're talking to you, it is
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  Speaker 3: already September. First, Ah, so when would you actually like
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  Speaker 3: to schedule it because we have all this other stuff
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  Speaker 3: and you're like, uh, like oh, And when I went
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  Speaker 3: to order it, it says I can't And I was like,
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  Speaker 3: are you kidding me? And indeed I went and checked
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  Speaker 3: you cannot order it now. So like our store that
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  Speaker 3: was the one of the stores that for Mars had
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  Speaker 3: maybe the second big turnout in the world is now
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  Speaker 3: not even going to probably run second for Certain Darkness
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  Speaker 3: because well, I mean, maybe I didn't get my ship
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  Speaker 3: together because it wasn't like the day that they released it.
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  Speaker 3: Because I'm trying to schedule because we actually have a
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  Speaker 3: local play group, so I'm scheduling around the store that
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  Speaker 3: wants to run it here and the store that wants
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  Speaker 3: to run at Milwaukee in Chicago, and we're trying to
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  Speaker 3: settle dates so that way, you know, so tell us
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  Speaker 3: a little while because I figured it shouldn't be a
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  Speaker 3: big deal to order this stuff, but it is. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: And now I'm just like I'm done, Like I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to place another order with Ghost Galaxy again, because
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  Speaker 3: I placed an order on the eighteenth, which included Certain Darkness,
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  Speaker 3: which apparently takes a month to produce, and my order
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  Speaker 3: still hasn't shipped. It includes boxes people that be paid
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  Speaker 3: for and other Ghost Galaxy stuff that people asked for,
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  Speaker 3: and that shit still hasn't shipped. It's been a freaking
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  Speaker 3: month almost and they can't even ship an order, let
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  Speaker 3: alone Certain Darkness. It's bullshit. It's like dealing with this company.
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  Speaker 3: It's like they're just like, you know how, you know how,
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  Speaker 3: we don't want customers. We just don't want customers, Like,
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  Speaker 3: fuck them. We don't even bothershipping them stuff. You guys.
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  Speaker 4: Here, you don't.
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  Speaker 3: There's no you don't get a salesperson. There's nobody to
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  Speaker 3: freaking contact you use their contact form, even when you
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  Speaker 3: do it as a retailer, when you're spending thousands of.
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  Speaker 2: Dollars at a time, I Josh Cavan and immediately left and.
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  Speaker 3: Fuck it, not a word. You can't even get a
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  Speaker 3: response from them when you're actively giving them money. It's
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  Speaker 3: the garbage.
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  Speaker 4: The frustrating part is that we have a consistent player group.
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  Speaker 4: The store has backed for all of their game fhones
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  Speaker 4: from Woe through what we have like up through PV.
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  Speaker 4: That's as much as we can have. We have a
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  Speaker 4: play group that's meeting weekly. There's other playgroups that like, okay,
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  Speaker 4: it's once a month or every other They're doing the
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  Speaker 4: best they can. But because Becau, because other games have
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  Speaker 4: come in for other companies, for other play groups, it
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  Speaker 4: just doesn't get ordered right away. I get that Toby
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  Speaker 4: and I can see here in our notes, like they
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  Speaker 4: planned for Saturday it failed. They ordered day one, they
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  Speaker 4: ordered three kits and they haven't received any yet. My
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  Speaker 4: frustration is is that we did get one person last year.
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  Speaker 4: I was very excited by that, like any growth, that
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  Speaker 4: we can go ahead and people are more. It was Pete,
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  Speaker 4: and Pete's become a very consistent player for us traveling
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  Speaker 4: quite a distance, like he's traveling over an hour to
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  Speaker 4: be able to get to our store, to be able
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  Speaker 4: to play once a week. I appreciate that more than
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  Speaker 4: I can say, but us just running.
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  Speaker 3: And he doesn't quite show up.
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  Speaker 4: But my issue is is that if we have storyline
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  Speaker 4: events like this, it provides access to people who may
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  Speaker 4: be on the more casual side who want to come out,
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  Speaker 4: And yes, we play Sealed each week. It's still fun,
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  Speaker 4: but not everyone is interested in that sort of play
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  Speaker 4: style versus here's a storyline event. But I just I
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  Speaker 4: don't understand. If there's six decks and they're this literally
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  Speaker 4: the same whatever store, we're all getting the same cards.
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  Speaker 4: We have to just go ahead and get some different
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  Speaker 4: codes then put into the kits in order for you
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  Speaker 4: to be able to report. If we have stores that
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  Speaker 4: are actively playing, why would we not want to go
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  Speaker 4: ahead and produce some more that the kits can then
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  Speaker 4: be produced people can play. It's something fun, it's something
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  Speaker 4: to talk about something.
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  Speaker 2: Well you know what it is about not wanting to
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  Speaker 2: produce more. It is it's a cost saving measure. Well,
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  Speaker 2: and I know that they're basically I'm produce at cost
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  Speaker 2: so so, but this is if I produce too many,
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  Speaker 2: it's just a lot. Whatever it doesn't go is a
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  Speaker 2: loss because I can't reuse it.
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  Speaker 3: I can't.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, But here here's the thing we're sitting on. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they were sitting which are like, we can't do Like.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, they could have sold any marskets that they
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  Speaker 3: didn't ship.
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  Speaker 4: But here's my thing. They have a printer. It has
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  Speaker 4: to go into the schedule, but please please just open
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  Speaker 4: if you see a demand, open it up so that
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  Speaker 4: our local ope can receive the little support. That's well,
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  Speaker 4: they know there's a demand.
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  Speaker 3: You can't even place the order to say you want it, Janet,
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  Speaker 3: I'm here to take your order.
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  Speaker 4: G M. T has uh, you know stoll Meyer has. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: So what are you interested in? You could have a
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  Speaker 4: little button on the side game store that's interested or frankly,
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  Speaker 4: you could go ahead and have it and an order
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  Speaker 4: will deliver it to you. I just I'm really puzzled
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  Speaker 4: why we can't go ahead and order and then we
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  Speaker 4: see how many orders there are actually there and run
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  Speaker 4: another batch and maybe it comes in a second batch.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe all of these should have been run for October,
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  Speaker 4: which we were talking about earlier. I think that's more
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  Speaker 4: of the process, but just the idea of it. It
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  Speaker 4: was delayed early on. Now it's jammed in in a
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  Speaker 4: short period of time, but we're actually doing the legwork.
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  Speaker 4: And now it's very very possible that I will not
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  Speaker 4: be able to play Certain Darkness at all because I
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  Speaker 4: can't get to a store that will actually have it
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  Speaker 4: like that, as someone who has invested so much time
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  Speaker 4: is very very very frustrating time, and there's just there's
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  Speaker 4: no reason. There's no reason.
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  Speaker 3: It's blood, sweat, tears. I just frustrate.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's that's what we're hearing here at this point,
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  Speaker 4: is that it's it's frustration. It's frustration because it was delayed.
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  Speaker 4: It should have been something that anyone who wants to
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  Speaker 4: can go ahead and get it, because honestly, if we
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  Speaker 4: were on top of it and we couldn't get it,
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  Speaker 4: about all the other stores that are just coming in
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  Speaker 4: or anywhere else.
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  Speaker 2: Here's another thing, why not just make them print and
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  Speaker 2: play here's your code.
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  Speaker 3: Your deck. Yeah, that's not going to work. Why no,
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  Speaker 3: Why it's it's not ideal.
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  Speaker 2: The time back in the day with magic. Right, it's
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  Speaker 2: a twelve it's a literally a twelve card set. They're
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  Speaker 2: all identical, right, they're identical.
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  Speaker 4: Playing with sleeves. Yes, it is very achievable, but it's
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  Speaker 4: just because there's only one event. Maybe I have a
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  Speaker 4: higher expectation, like they did really well with Mars last year,
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  Speaker 4: they should kneel this out of the park and instead
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  Speaker 4: the easy things are one have enough product for people
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  Speaker 4: who are interested to be able to do it, and
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  Speaker 4: two get it to the stores on time so they
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  Speaker 4: can run their event like those are absolute kill or
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  Speaker 4: for local This.
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  Speaker 3: Whole, this whole storyline event feels completely botched in comparison
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  Speaker 3: to the feels rushed. Not no, just like half ass
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  Speaker 3: from start to beginning.
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  Speaker 2: Like I would say, it feels rushed because like literally
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  Speaker 2: what maybe it feels late.
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  Speaker 3: It is late.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's very late, like summer events. But I
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  Speaker 2: find the fault like I felt like they were summer event.
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  Speaker 2: We gotta do something.
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  Speaker 4: Totally total incompetence is what's written in the a C Show,
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  Speaker 4: like the actual live notes for those falling along. And
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  Speaker 4: that's the problem is that maybe I had too high
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  Speaker 4: of an expectations a good job last year. I just
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  Speaker 4: I that's why. That's why this event I went ahead
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  Speaker 4: enlisted it as come on, g do better, Come on, man,
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  Speaker 4: just do better.
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  Speaker 2: Do the esp on the come on man. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: a little disappointing. We don't know what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, but I don't see why. I don't see
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  Speaker 2: why print and play wasn't possible. Almost everybody is probably
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  Speaker 2: gonna be sleeping sleeping up there right using your card
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  Speaker 2: condoms and putting them on there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh we have to. I don't really stay You're
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  Speaker 3: you're definitely inspirable.
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  Speaker 2: You want to make that feel like an even bigger
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  Speaker 2: step down from what we've had, is a bigger step
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  Speaker 2: down than not no kid at all.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it shows no effort.
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  Speaker 4: I just I feel that because the cards are the same,
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  Speaker 4: they could go ahead and go in Prince Batch number
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  Speaker 4: two and I'm your still going through October. It should
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  Speaker 4: be they should be fine, and then we have to
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  Speaker 4: generate a code for the playgroup. That's what they have
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  Speaker 4: to do.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, I'm sorry I could send this to China. We
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  Speaker 2: can have been a week and a half just about that,
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  Speaker 2: but I do because that's how long it took the
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  Speaker 2: the ac full art cards to come in.
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  Speaker 3: But again, they're not professionally packaged. Is just a pile
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  Speaker 3: of cards.
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  Speaker 2: Do you want me to put them in a team
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  Speaker 2: bag for you? And then that's not the professionally I
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  Speaker 2: mean I can get some like some of that what
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  Speaker 2: do they call that that heat shrink and we can
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  Speaker 2: heat shrink them all if.
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  Speaker 3: They sent you ship that way. You would go on
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  Speaker 3: NonStop about it for these, these, these, I wouldn't care these.
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  Speaker 2: You could ship these loose in a rubber band. I
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  Speaker 2: really wouldn't give a ship because number one, I probably
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't know, right, I mean, that's this is it's a
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  Speaker 2: special event. Like, is anybody holding onto these after they're
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  Speaker 2: done with them?
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  Speaker 3: You might local car?
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  Speaker 2: Might you know where mine are going? In the shudder bind?
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  Speaker 2: Because I'll never look at these ever again. Besides, besides
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  Speaker 2: my photographic snapshot memory of having a great time with
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  Speaker 2: all my friends and we played a great sealed event
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  Speaker 2: with this fun new little shindig, and then we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: go play board games and Chiefs House where he will
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  Speaker 2: yell at me for being stupid.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmm my house for that?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean whatever, I mean, we play the game
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  Speaker 2: of somewhere, whill you yell at me for making the
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  Speaker 2: wrong decision?
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  Speaker 3: Well, if you made the right decision, I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 4: Have to do that.
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  Speaker 2: This is true.
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  Speaker 3: The other thing you say, Dad, it's not a train.
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  Speaker 4: It was not a trained monkey move though, so he's
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  Speaker 4: still better off than another friend of ours.
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  Speaker 3: Well that's all I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry for calling. I'm sorry for calling a friend
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  Speaker 4: a trained monkey. I'll do better, do better, I think.
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  Speaker 4: I think as I'm sitting here, like the anticipation of
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  Speaker 4: the event because last year being successful, we had since
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  Speaker 4: last November, we're looking forward to it. It was delayed.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, it's here, it's coming though, we're
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  Speaker 4: gonna be able to play, and like literally doing all
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  Speaker 4: the legwork to make sure that we could have it,
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  Speaker 4: and then nothing because we're out of print.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's just where playing. I'd really like to like,
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  Speaker 3: so we So I did.
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  Speaker 5: I was at my store tonight, right because Thursday, every
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  Speaker 5: other Thursday, we're playing, and uh.
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  Speaker 3: So I was like, I was like, hey, Carl, right,
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  Speaker 3: because that's that's the news name, Like.
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  Speaker 5: Did you get your order yet, because it's been a
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  Speaker 5: long time, like we're out of PV two.
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  Speaker 3: And so.
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  Speaker 5: He goes He's like, okay, they finally sent him a
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  Speaker 5: notice that we're gonna get it on Wednesday, Like, well,
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  Speaker 5: good thing. I almost scheduled it for this weekend. Good
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  Speaker 5: I didn't because wouldn't have been here in time.
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  Speaker 3: So thank Pale. I was like, you know what, I
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  Speaker 3: don't really trust gg. I'm going to put this.
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  Speaker 5: So thankfully I did. Otherwise we scramble to move things
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  Speaker 5: around on the schedule.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that our Chicago friends down south they
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: had it set for Saturday and that that's off. There
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  Speaker 4: have been at least two just readings today where people
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  Speaker 4: are frustrated because they had as a store then they
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  Speaker 4: have to return money if they've pre collected it. So
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  Speaker 4: this there is a lot of frustration from the Wisconsin
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: in Chicago area right.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Well, and that's all find and good, but let's let's
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: talk about store frustration. Right on that front. You've got
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: stores already not wanting to touch this ship with a
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: ten foot pole, and then you pull this.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: It is weird because I know that we've reached out
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: trying to get PV and that seems to be delayed.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: Gig had been really easy to contact in the past
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: getting more products.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: So there's problem getting TV that I'm aware of. You cannot.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: Slow Yeah, I assume the reason, like we haven't had
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: TV is because we ordered it at the same time
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: as the Certain Darkness.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Right all this shipment, they didn't ship anything because you
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: had Certain Darkness, which is just beyond infuriating as a Yeah,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: like if that's how it's going to be say so, yeah,
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: I mean not just to your orders hostage for a
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: freaking month.
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Like it's a mix of folks at the store
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: because you've got folks like King of Bling, who's sad
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: because he loves PV, and then you've got other folks
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: who are like, sweet, we could just play more ember
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: Skies because they don't like BV. So nobody's said yeah,
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: so tonight there was a lot of Ember Skuy's being
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: played there tonight.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be happy to go back and playing Amberski.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: I really like Ember Skuy's I it is. It might
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: be my favorite set now maybe I don't know. For
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: a long time, it was like MM right and then right,
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: and then Woe came out and I was like, I
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: like what was better? But I still think MM is
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: my favorite. And then GR. I didn't really know how
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: to react to that. I liked it, but also I
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: didn't right both. I think I think amber Skuy's is
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: my favorite.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: I love GR.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: I still have I do still like our game. Found
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: still upset that I didn't support support it at all
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: because I really like GR and you know, not know
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: what I'm gonna say it, Yeah, pvs PV's working, working,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: its head work working, it's working its claws into me.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: No, now that it's been determined, it is broken. Bullshit.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Book he's in, Yeah you got it also has a
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: lot of cards that say you don't get to play
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: q Forge, which is kind of like my jam. So
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: which maybe I should just stop asking for things, because
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, the list of ship that GG has stolen
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: from us is now I don't even know how long,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: so we should just stop making suggestions. I'm hoping for
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: an extremely unfair broken.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: I can steal our idea of shipping ship on time.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go with. I hope that they hear
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: this and open it up so that all who want
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: to participate in this great event actually ken. I'm going
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: to be thinking positive here. Speaking of Game Found Live,
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: they did push back the actual game Found for DRACONI measures.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: It goes live next Thursday, September eighteenth, so that was
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: even pushed back. It is not on key forging dot com,
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: but it is on the game found website.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: So I told you they're small team. Two websites to
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: manage is tough.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: It's hard. It's not like you're a full time person
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: to do this tough.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Well outside of game found I know you talked about
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: being hold back.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I know where you want to go into here, and
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I want to insert something. You're you're going into.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: German, right, we're insert into Germany?
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Is that that's where you're headed? Next, you're headed into
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: the You're headed into boat, which is how it's if I.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: I could not toss that softball upsize.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's been so many softballs. I mean, just
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: go look at Ghost Galaxies Facebook page. Should I don't
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: know why you would play fucking mad libs with a
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: bunch of degenerates as such as ourselves and think that
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: this is anyway a good idea like that just had
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: to be the worst. Yeah, well, you know I didn't
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: post anything, but I didn't voice my Hey, maybe this
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: isn't the best idea, just saying and you listen to
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: to h F F S this week number one, we
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: got to step up our grump game, sheep, I need
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: you to do better. Liam's gunning for your spot. I
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: mean it was pretty grumpy today.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah I was. I thought I had.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: He's just grumpy and a grumpy in a grumpy tone.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: I guess he's pretty grumpy towards gig today. But any
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: of y'all listening already? Ben, Oh wow, that's.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: The kind of grumpy I am. I'm like, why the
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: fuck am I wasting my time with.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: This fuck your game? I'm gonna play tiny robots on
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: my computer.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: All of these dos?
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, anyway back to it. Did any I
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: listened to h F F S this week?
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Yes?
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, there's two of us. Number one.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: The fact that Josh says they are open to changing
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: what was written down. Now, that didn't infuriate anybody else.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: I mean it's par for the course, right, I mean, HM, say,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: one thing, doing a.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, let's say, a feedback is you know, not
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: a bad thing. Listening to feedback is not a bad thing.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: However, I did, I was like, yea, why Josh like,
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: because he sort of pays attention, Like why is he surprised?
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Well, what's our alternative?
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Though?
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: That's my next question?
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: We play Crucible Class? No ARCon powers. I like that
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: it's day and you just play Crucible class with them.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Well, they can't do that, right, they can't do that.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: You can change do anything.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: You can change into the trgy right now and it
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: will be legal for key Ford celebration. Yeah done.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: If you if you know it's broken and we're talking
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: about that certain arch On powers are significantly better or
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: significantly worse, then yes, the card pool itself play enjoy.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: Okay if you if you wrote down Crucible class, you're
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: still sticking to what you have, just don't play the
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: ark On power.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think that the actual setus is fine
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: as is, but you put in the arc On powers
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: and it is wonky and unbalanced.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did, so.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: I opened a two decks and I opened to Amber
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: Skies and it opened a crucible clash. I opened the
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: one where it's like both keys costs minus one and
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: you could forge like multiple keys of the turn right.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: That one's awful, Yeah, which.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: Super powered my opponent who had like uh you know,
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: they had sory in what they had the who's the dude,
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: that's like emberanum. You can use the forge keys the
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: uh full power one R and so two, and he
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: had a whole bunch of ward and uh yeah centers tricks.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: So it is yeahs it's it's the yeah yeah yeah.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: So he had yep, he had two of those with
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: h with a whole bunch of wards and it's just
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: like and then the dude's like play all your all
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: dinos get exalted, so I couldn't do anything to him,
• 27:31
  Speaker 5: and all his keys cost nothing, and he just like
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: forge aole bunch of keys all once and one.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh wait was that fun?
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: That was fun?
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I tapped my because his power was good too.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: It was like the forger yellow key and then play
• 27:48
  Speaker 5: out of house, so like it's like, okay, all yours
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: are cheaper, Yes you can.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Return. Yeah.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: It was like, well, like what the idea of changing
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: the set I'm not cool with, Like, and if you're
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: going to, you need to make that announcement like now,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: because people are gonna start practicing. Well, nobody's practicing Crucibal Clash.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: That's actually maybe a real reason other than us whining, right, Like,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: a real reason is people are not practicing it.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: They don't know the card pool, they don't know the
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: new cards.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: It's hardly available, that's right, right, if you if you
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: ordered it, I'm not even that might be part of
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: a delayed shipment too.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: Well if yeah, if you ordered it, especially if you
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: ordered it with your certain darkness and probably if you
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: waited to order it Certain Darkness when you ordered Chris
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: book Clash, maybe you didn't get Certain Darkness right, like,
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: oh yeah, so so that is a real reason for
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: like a high level tournament to not have a set
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: as if it's not easily available, non accessible.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Like, well, then everybody's on the same playing field, a
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: reason that it's just whining. Well, but then everybody's on
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: the same playing field. No, we're all at the same.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: But is that what, like, like, what do you want
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: your tournament to be? Right?
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Like you No, My my biggest thing is the number one.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: We had a communication, right you said this? It does
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: It irritates me when you say one thing and then
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: you're like, well, now we're going to change it. Well,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: you've already said it.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, do what you mean?
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Mean what you say?
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Like either that or you guys should have gone to
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: the damn drawing board.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: I mean you do.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: You still do have.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: However, many months you don't have to make an announcement
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: of what set was going to be the set for
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: KFC for the Open because for some of us this
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: is a big deal. For some of us, we might
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: be trying, you know what would be amazing actually if
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: they made it VM twenty five, you know, and to.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Be honest with you, I'd be fine that. I'd be
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: fine with.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the twenty five is a great set, and it
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: pisses off JM, so even better. This is also true,
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: and that's probably the only I'm kind of sad there's
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: only one named deck that you only get one, regardless
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: of your tiers, only one named deck. I know you
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: guys don't care, but like I was very excited, especially
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: if I go for a bigger pledge, to like use
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: use one for my name decks to be like you know,
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: JM l loves VM. Right, I was gonna do something
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: there that would be great. But now I get one.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: There was there was a statement of control.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: Now it does out right, Like I think we as
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: the drink might have to be the one that's gotta
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: be the it's gotta be it were drink.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we as the I did hear if
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: if I go for a larger pledge, I did hear that.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, It's like I feel like the only person, the
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: only cool kid with it's out my own art, uh
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: and my only cool kid, I know it, like.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: None of us here on this there's enough people.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: Here, but at my locals, right, yeah, your locals there
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: are at my.
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: Local, right, I'm looking around. I got you got Mammon
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: d g Right, he's got it. You got King of Bling.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: Oh he doesn't have it, all right, never mind, you've
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: got all right. So so he and I are like,
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: but then you've got jj he's got it right, You've
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: got uh Stragan eight, he's got it.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: You got Barlow, he's got it right. I'm like, man,
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: I feel like uh someving to bust off the credit
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: card dress like the only one.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: I think that we need to go live in the
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: like Philly area. Man, you guys throwing down some big,
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: big money.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: I mean it helped to be in one of those
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: environments where is signally higher, like it is out there
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: that a couple of living is higher. But yes, but
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: the five hundred dollars is different, right right? That is yes?
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: All right? What do you feel?
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Good?
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Snapbox do il No, I'm still pissed, but.
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm going to say good luck to all participating
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: in the German Vault Tour tomorrow, because that's right, they're
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: just a couple hours ahead. That is September twelve through fourteen,
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: so happening this weekend if you are go ahead and
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: following along, hopefully we can and where's the what happens
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: over in Germany? And then next week boys, we have
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: two vaults?
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, well, hold on, where's the where's the German
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Vault Tour?
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: I don't know it's listed here? Where is it?
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Where? Where is it?
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Where is it? Somebody make the joke?
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Boll come.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: Germany?
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Was it already too much?
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah? We killed dead, but next week we have both
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Madrid and Vegas on September nineteen to Madrid. That we
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: have three So we have three. Yeah, but we have
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: three vaults coming up between this weekend and next weekend.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: So good luck to all who are going and participating
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: and having great time. Fortune Keys. Like all the complaining
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: earlier for Certain Darkness, Yeah, they really messed up and
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: game found being pushed back. The actual events, the ope
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: events when are in person, the community is amazing and
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: it's well worth it to go to aall to ours
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: if you can watch online, if you can't, you can
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: go and enjoy amazing.
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: All right, yes, very exciting. We're moving on to sory
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: m cards now. Yeah, we would scored cars in a while.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been a lot. There's been a lot of
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: complain now wa yeah, we're not scoring cars tonight, We're
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: not What do you mean we're not scoring no, because well, okay,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: you can score them without me. It's only twenty one. Hey,
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: I've got to get up in like six hours, six hours,
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: seven six six seven. I get'd be very excited.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Six seven eight.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: I mean we could stop and just let this going.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, what are we h f F that's thirty
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: minute episode.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: What come on, let's do this. If you could, you
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: can nap sheep. Let's uh power through this scurse of cards.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Let's see houses. We need Saurian.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Saurian from the peeve the doc. You can't x out.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Oh you gotta go to cards. I'm in the wrong spot.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, it's been too long. You even know how?
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I'm getting there.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: I'm getting there, all right.
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: I do. While you're looking, I'm gonna go ahead and
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: say our first card and keep this bad way moving.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: This is adrianis Laurica three power dinosaur Soldier. Each friendly
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: creature with amber on it gets plus three armor play.
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: You may exalt heydrianis Laura.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Up.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: It's not good. It's like a three middle of the row. Oh,
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: a three.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: It doesn't do much, probably tips over for a number.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's a it's a three power creature. Yeah, two,
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: and not only if you exalt it. So if you
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: exalt it.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: It's three power three.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Maybe giving your opponent an umber.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So basically this card says, play I don't like this.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Wait a half a turn, give your opponent a number.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: So two, we're going down to two.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's all it is.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: It's a one.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Vanish is in set. It's just like creature I.
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: Originally so right. I had to just go myself by
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: the way and score all these for the tool. I
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: had put a one at the time.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe maybe it's a but this is.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I could agree with one because banish said. Banish is
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: a common Banish just says put this creature in your archives.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: There's no added questions. This is a very relevant house
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: cool with the one.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Each friend creature with amber on it gets our play.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: I mean this is.
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: And you use the armor that turnes.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: This is very very similar value to the two other
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: creatures that do the same thing. Right, there's the two
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: different creatures who get power instead of armor.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Practice gives power.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's probably and whatever, but also a
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: point lower because it isn't for each.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a one time, but armor, on the other.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Hand, replenishes, so it also kind of lasts longer. But yes,
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: it can be a two, it can be a three,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: it can be a mostly.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: This is worth much worse than Petus.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Was only himself, right, No, that was everybody, it's the
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: other one.
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, pomp was each creature, wasn't it? Like each creature
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: with umber on it.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: Gets okay, one on hand mop Yeah, maybe that was
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: it for each all your creatures gain plus two.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Each friendly creature gets plus two power for each umber
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: on it.
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: All right, yeah, thank you. Each friendly creature gets plus
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: two power for each amber on it.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: I'm fine with the two. I think we should move
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: to Lictor just teeming, just tiny.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: All right, two? All right, we're up the right. Two right.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: I like Lickter just tinian.
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: It can be I've been reading it.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: I like this one. Go ahead and read it. Four power.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: After your plays a card, deal one damage to each
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: enemy creature.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: This is at least a four. Could be a five. Yeah,
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: this card this is in field. It can be real
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: hard to deal with, all right.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: The part you were looking at was Centurion Sinopius, which
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: is three power two armor dinosaurs Soldier Centurion Stinopius gets
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: plus three power for each amber on it. But this, again,
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: I think that our first choice is much more closely
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: related there, so.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: Sweet.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: So is he a four? Is he a five?
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Sealed?
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: This is very hard to deal with. Just Tinian Lictor,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: just Tinian lickteror justin. He is a pain and a
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: butt to deal with. He is right outside the three
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: damage range, right because.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: Even if you play a card to kill him, you're
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: you're splashing one damage across your out of line.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: So it's it's yeah, and you know you might not
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: have that ready to go like this is. You know,
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: this is potentially witch status and its four power.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: Very very strong. Yeah, I love playing this as a tournament.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a five five? You think I could
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: be talked up to a five for sure?
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Thank you?
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Ornate remenate, oh my goodness, remurderation.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: Remove re yeah, the moneration, but.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Moderation all right, whatever, choose what you re money something money?
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Please move each ember from a friendly creature to your
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: pool or a friendly creature captures good four less good,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: but but also what it gives you the option, right,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: it is versatile.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: This card is infuriating because it's like crappy half of trunks, creed,
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: crappy half of a bunch of cars, right.
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: I mean I think I scored this too high actually
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: when I would just punching it in. But but it
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: is pretty good.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Move each ember from a friendly creature your pool, like
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: that could be a huge deal. And then if it's not,
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: you have the option to capture three, which is okay.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, actually five again, I think four I had put
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: as a five, and I don't think that's right.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Actually, I think it's a four.
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: Four?
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Sweet? Are you at this? Sheeps?
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Cheps sheep sleeping?
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Three?
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Three?
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Oh you're a three sheep? You don't like it now?
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: He thinks it's fine. Three is fine?
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: And this that and this set Like most of the
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: time it's not like this huge swing. Wait, which are
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: we on renumeration generation? Yeah? You know what you need
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: sanctum to capture? Really yeah, maybe maybe I'm saying too
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: much for this one.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: I still think it's pretty good. My dinosaur of stick
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: around a long time with some umber on all right, then,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: okayos decree you may exalt up to three friendly creatures
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: for the remainder of the term they belonged to House
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Saurian A little torn. It does have a pip of Vember.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: I'm a little torn on this one. I'm going to
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: give you three. It's very flexible, but you are still exulting,
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: which eventually means you're giving up Ember.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: What did we have?
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Well, that's why you have your ornate true?
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: What do we have on Sario?
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: His sorrow is really order ready as and they could
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: be used.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he does ready and recling creatures and all kinds
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: of good stuff and mis set for him. I don't
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: know or how we get orders A three.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: Interesting, okay, Because you have the immediate printed amber on here,
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: you have the choice of you may exalt, and it's
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: up to so you could choose zero, one, two, or three.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: But if you have any creatures out on board, the
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: value that's off of here is I mean, essentially could
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: play this exalt three and go ahead in game four
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: as my Christmas tree land. I found I've found that
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: this I really like. It plays well for me. It
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: shows up in the rare, so Unfortunately, you don't see
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: a ton of it. Oddly, I've seen more pluvious cree
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: than I have adrianis Lourica so odd. But this I
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: have no problem with. I definitely think that I could
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: easily go into a four for it.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: I'm middle, I had a four. Three. We're at Sheep
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Cheeps the Sleep. Yeah, all right, choose three or a four.
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: I don't actually out, Well, you're gonna four, all right, four,
• 45:12
  Speaker 5: So we're leaving it.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: For okay, Salvatorum, moving, Salvatorium, Salvatorium, Salvatorum, Salvatorium. You cannot
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: play Salvatorium each friendly ready creature with ember on. It
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: cannot be belt damage fate put Salvatorium into play under
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: your opponent's control.
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: It's super awkward, like way to get this on the board, Like,
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: it's weird, Like I think I think that that does
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: detract from it a little.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Bit for me. You can't just place it.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I find this similar to Plasina hit aen Agent,
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: where you're kind of putting into play.
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: It is a better though, Yes, this is this is
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: much is not that hard to get play.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: It depends.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: It's just awkward. It's it's strange to me that potentially
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: can just warp a game. I think it's yeah strong
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: either way, right?
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: Wrong?
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: So is it four strong or five strong? It's four strong,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: that's what I had to I think four.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: You had a three. I at least had four. I
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: think I was knocking it for I don't know, maybe
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: Have this one play. The reason I didn't give it
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: a five was because there's too many bots in this set.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: And it's another one where if you if you don't
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: have captured exulting, it doesn't really do anything that's true, right,
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: But you have sory and so that there is that
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: consistent right. I mean I could be talking.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: I could be talked into a three. I could if
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: that helps you.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: You had it at a two, yeah, coming up to
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: a three, I think it's strong than a three.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: I probably I probably detracted too much for the way
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: you put it into play. I think I did. The
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: fact that you can just chuck this under a prophecy
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: and you don't have to call Saurian and stuff. That's
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: a strength.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: And then I'm gonna I'm gonna put a whole bunch
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: of ember on my Marcella's and you won't be able
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: to do anything about it. You've activated my.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: Know, they can't. They can't be dealt damage. They can
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: still be balancing.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: And I didn't give it a five.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: Bounce you.
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: All right, So we're all right, We're gonna talk to
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: up here.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: A dome action. It's another location, another another artifact. Man,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: so mean, this is also artifact that you don't have
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: to spend a whole turn to do it. You can
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: put you can literally probably get this out on any turn,
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: depending on your faith or depending on your prophecy. Is
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: another yeah, he's yeah. But now we're moving on to
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Vesuvius Dome, which is another artifact which action move each
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: ember from each creature to the common supply, destroy each creature,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: destroy Vesuvious Dome. Sorian become wimpy whimpy Wimpy should request.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: So this one like this is uh, this is the
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: same card that exists in dis key to this for
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: a plus one because it also flushes the amber well
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: and flushes the amber you have collected. It could also
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: be a negative because it flushes collected, but it's it
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: is interesting that got away from this sacrificing terminology.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm. It is one of the few straight board
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: wipes in that it's slower an artifact. But yes, and
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: this is actions. You haven't even comeback. Yeah, so that's
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: It's there, So this is one lower. It's a four.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: I had this at a four.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sounds good to me. Degenerate the core. It's an
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: action card. Play choose one exalt the most powerful creature
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: three times the most powerful friendly creature captures three And.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: We have now moved into the uncommon slot. So the
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: first cards were all rares. This isn't uncommon.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: Uh, this card is a little better because it just
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: throws three amber on an opponent's creature, maybe else the
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: most powerful creature. So yeah, I mean it doesn't always
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: the capture half.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: So you have flexibility in the capture. You can choose
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: to fight and get rid of your most power creature
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: if it's there or like there, there's flexibility in this.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: Most of the time when it's being played, I find
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: that it's being played for the exalting your opponent's creature
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: for three and then you have a way to bounce
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: it or kill it.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: Right, But in the late game it can be used
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: as ember control if you're in a pickle.
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: If you need it. Yeah, usually more attacking. I like it,
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: like it.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: That's a three.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: I think it's more before.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I think it's Yeah, that's where I had
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: it was a three.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, well he's a four at four where yeah you walk,
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: I have four, but again go four? Right, guyas three
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: power dinosaur philosopher. After reward each other friendly creature with
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: ember on it scrap war a friendly creature.
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: So I always think about guyas Baltar whenever I see
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: this cart or hear the name, but doesn't look anything
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: like Boltar.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: Or act like guyas Baltar would act. I don't know, really,
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: you don't know that. You don't know him is guyas Baltar.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: He's got his drunk juice.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like carrying your opponent's amber is kind
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: of like being a trader maybe. Yeah.
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: So this one's interesting because like when my first read
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: this card, I was like, oh, it's solid, but like
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: I have, I'm happy, I just don't like it doesn't
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: like it never seems to work out well, it doesn't
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: seem to meet the power level of the rest of
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: the set. Yeah, Like it's like.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: Read good effect. Yeah, I mean if you like Salvatorium,
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: this card is as good.
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: I think what they're saying is that it reads like
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: it should play better, but for some odd reason it's not.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: It just doesn't.
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: It's not.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: It is something.
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I find that people will target this because if
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: you do let it go and then you can read
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: toward each other friendly creature. I mean it's because of
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: each other friendly creature. It just doesn't stick around more
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: than a turn. But even warning everything, I think the
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: three is fine based on that. If it worded all
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: creatures with amber and you know, you can get it
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: in here. But I think three is fine.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: It's just it's a good effect. It's never it never
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: pans out, and I'm often sad to see him when
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: I open it.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like it can't be worse than a
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: three though, Like that effect.
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: Is not bad.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: I had a two just mainly because every time again,
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: every time I get a deck with this card, like
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: it's like the pile of card. It's like that deck
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: you always look at. You're like there should be something
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: and it just it's not.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I like his friend. We'll see later where
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: it's like the Captors and wards like that. Yeah, like
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: I was better. It's more guaranteed value.
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: Yes, guaranteed because for some reason he seem to be
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: more effective.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know why. Rufus way back. Well, yeah, we'll
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: talk to him in a minute.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Governor Griddlic, he's a six power story and politician. After
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: a fight, put the top most creature from your opponent's
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: discard pile into play under your control.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: The recruiting program is working well. I like to say,
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: this is Governor Griddell.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, looks a little bit like you. Is this
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: your art card? He's sort of got a beak nose
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: a little bit. I mean he does look like he
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: kind of looks like a prick. Yeah, he's very fairly.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: I like this sometimes back.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: All right, so this card because he's we he doesn't
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: have any armor. He only gets it like he His
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: effect often goes off once the lesser's silly enough to
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: leave elusives for you, wipowers. Not with all those logos
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: around happens quiet. I haven't I've seen him do a
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: lot yet, but he's okay.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: No, he would be a much better choose a creature
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: because it's the topmost creature. So tis I not you're
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: not getting something you can actually use. It's the topmost creature.
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: A little clever play on your part and you can
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: a little clever play on my part.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: Still barely that that atrocity out of their discard pile.
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: It's like, I'm so well, if you're forced into sorry,
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: and but if you fight, you have put the creature
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: into the discard pile. Correct, Yes, after fight, then it
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: would be coming back.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: So whoever he fight, Yeah, never mind, he got significantly worse,
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: worse anymore. I don't like him any I don't know.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: That's worse.
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: It gives you some options, right, you have control.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: He's crazy, I'm crazy.
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: Only a three or four though, Yeah, I feel like
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: this card, like in ffg Era would would definitely have
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: been better right now. It's like this isn't nearly as
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: good as it used to be right now with.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: A bunch of twelves running around twelves with very little downside.
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean this is at least a three. I
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: edited a three, don't Yeah, I don't know if it
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: gets to a four though.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: No three.
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: It is cracking reform pip Ember every time you play it.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: It's an action card.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: Love this card. Play the top card of your opponent's
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: deck as if it were yours. Fate your opponent archives
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: the top two cards of their deck.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: This is very good. Why this card hold on? I'm wrong.
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: I don't know why I put this as a three before.
• 57:05
  Speaker 5: This is better than a three Rocken or Governor the
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: Grocken Reform. I don't know why I put it as
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: a three.
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: I want to say five because you experiences as I
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: and it's fun but never does anything meaningful. What well,
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: where's Murcan's.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: Action with the amber? Pip?
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: Is a four? And this gives a pip and you
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: have the option to fade it. Yeah, this is that one.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: So I have it at five. I love it all.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: It's gonna take at five. Sheep's gonna hit that.
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: Hit that cover fire one time, that's all it needs
• 57:51
  Speaker 6: to do, or even better, hit that.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: Hit your hornswaggle.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: I got z lock with that, so you know I hit,
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: I hit freaking I hit the guy who.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: That oh.
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: Yes, or the asp and then you can't you can't
• 58:18
  Speaker 5: clear him, and then they give you all their dudes
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: with their ember on it.
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a solid It is a solid card, for sure,
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: But I don't it's not it's it's it's it's a four.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: It's not reliable enough to be critical to winning games, right,
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: it's it's total craft shot lock we go forward.
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah fine, I love that card Paleogens because it's not
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: quite as good as this next card.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: Well. I like the fate on it too.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: With archiving to top two cards. I if you're not playing,
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: some might as well archive two. I don't know. I
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: like it a lot. Palaeogen Society, I remember every time
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: you play it action play a return another card from
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: your discard pile to your hand, Purge Paleogen Society, Fate
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: ward each enemy creature. I like this card too, yeah
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: big so.
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: I originally had this as a four because I was like, oh,
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: yeah you can. You can just go get a card
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: and use it, but you're gonna go get a Saurian card,
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: Like That's what I was thinking about. But like, the
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: more I play with this, I'm like, no, like fading
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: to ward your board after you flop a.
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: Huge board is huge.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: Also, don't forget you can get another card from your
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: discard pile to your hand. This is recursion of any
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: card you can go get. Yeah you can, you can
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: get Atrocity. You can go get a gleaming.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: Card.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: You can go get you can get a lot of
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: things back that you can slide underneath a fate to
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: screw your opponent over the next turn.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: Boys, why are we getting hood winked back?
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Get because it got discarded.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: Because it got started?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah okay, yeah, I'm like freaking Rager said hit you
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: that in that matter. I was just looking at the purge.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: I'm like, you played it, but yes there.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can go get a ragery set back and
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: put that under your ask again later you can either.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: So this card is sovers this I I love this card.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: I want, I want, I will take two of these,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: three of these. I'm down with.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: A br abr alliance. We we loaded up on multi
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: Palaging Society decks.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: And do you know how we did? And with that Scrogie.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 7: Well Wade a terrible So maybe you did, but I
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 7: don't think it was the Palatine Society's fault. It was
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 7: it was the fact that you know, I drafted Sydney
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 7: so that she would build us all alliance decks.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: I was Jason, I at uh.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: You know, Sidney built like three and then Jason and
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: I are like there on like Saturday night or Sunday night,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: like crap, like building these these decks and stuff.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: I felt my own, you know, it was awful, but
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: good for you.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: We did not have a good team investment in the
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: Alliance week. I do feel that we actually had some
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: really spicy uh f f G decks and that week
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: we did not hit as high as we could have.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: But the Alliance week we really really hit the bottom.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: The team we were facing, though, did have a number
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: of decks that had been put together and specifically sought
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: out for pods that were being used for Alliance. So
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: the combination of us not putting in the time and
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: facing the team we did really really really hurt us there.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and Sydney did put together some good decks.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: She put together our are she put together our headline deck.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: Was it the feature match deck which we did win,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 5: that was the only one we want. It was like,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: oh my gosh, we did so bad that week.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: But I don't know about you, dress, but did you
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: just feel out tempoed? Because that was what was consistently
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: talked about, is just out tempoed by the other Alliance decks.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like I played.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: App Yeah, it was just a lot of shadows that
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: was stealing and so is it out tempoed? All right,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: now you can go back.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: Fine, Yeah I lost a huge status steals what what
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: I did? Like sounds like you're a scrub because.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: Welcome to coda where that happened for like a don't
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: let them play and then they can't steal anything.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, Plans three powered Dinosaur Assassin destroyed, destroy each
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: of Plans Sena's hidden agents, Neighbors Fate put Plans Seen
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: a hidden agent into play under your opponent's control. One
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: thank you.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: I hate this card, alright.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: I hate this card so much. I hate this card
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: at first, to freaking hack that every time I've ever
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: played this card, then they go like Gift of Amber
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: and like make money off of it, or they needed
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: a creature on their side for some kind of sacrificial
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: or some kind of dumb or they or they exile
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: it back or whatever, because I've only ever had to
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: play this and sealed and I hate it. I hate
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: it so much. I hate it too, That's what it is. Yeah.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: I think the problem is that it comes to the
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: destroyed the fact that you have to destroy it in
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: order to take out one or two neighbors, and so
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: you have one neighbor correct have to place it super
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: not targeted, and they don't have to worry about it.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: And it has to come out under a fate because
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: you can't play it.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: Incorrect. I want ahead. No, No, yeah I played. I
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: did because I had a whole hand of sorry, but
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: I did have an exile because that was the only
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: way I was going to be able to get it
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: out because my fates were horrendous. This prophecy is horrendous,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: so it was not coming out as a fate.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: That'd probably be about the only good things.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: And then I did not know.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: I went ahead, and yeah, you went ahead and like
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 4: killed it or got rid of it or sent it back.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: It was sad.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: It's a bad card. Arch legged Valeria.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: Into the Commons. Now arch legged Commons.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, start with a good one.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: I thought, arch legg It's fine, enhanced with a Dino
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: pit before fight, exalt an enemy creature for each of
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: arch legg It's Valaria's Sorrian neighbors. I think he's good.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: He's at least four good.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: He's got the enhance, so he's immediately a million points
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: a really good before fight effect. Yeah, really, it's like, yeah,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: like kill something you don't like and get to ember
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: and make something else Sorrian like that is amazing. This
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: is like one of the best recruiters. It is, I think,
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: And there's plenty of ward in this set. Yeah five,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: I have five. I think it's I'm not sad seeing him.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'll accept.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 4: At least.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: Remember he's got it, he's got it enhanced.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: I think. Yeah, but we've also been proven wrong because
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: you guys keep trying to not get points for pips. Yeah,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: well I was told I can.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: Hear as well. But I do think. I think as
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: we've gone on it is changed, right.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: A Governess Sylvina like this card to three powered Dinosaur
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Politician play move each Ember from a friendly creature to
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: the most powerful enemy creature scraps doun two creatures with
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: no Ember on them.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this one suffers from the same problem
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: as the whatever rear card earlier, which is just you
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: don't make as big a piles of amber in this
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: as as you have in some other sets. This card's
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: pretty good, but I cannot believe all this is. This
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: is just a toss it on the board guard or.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: Reation.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 5: I So when I first went through all these so
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 5: I could build a tool, I put as a five.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: I was very excited about this now that I've played it,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: like occasionally it is, but like a lot of times
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 5: it's not. I don't know if it's five.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: I have to bring this down. Yeah, that's the problem.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: So if I yeah, I like, this can win you
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 5: the game, right, like most of the time it doesn't.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: But I don't want to bring this too far. I
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 5: think maybe four. I don't say I do think that.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: I think it's good. I don't know if it's five.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: I like to be able to move amber from a
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: creature over I like when Trenks is there, to be
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: able to use this to counter. Honestly, I use the
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: stun the scrap quite a bit to stun two creatures
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: with no amber that that does play quite a bit
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: for me.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: And you stun your new guys because remember, like that's
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: definitely happened to me. Oops, who scraps this? Yeah, well
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: there you go.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 5: Well, no, like the beginning of your turn, because you
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: can't guess what the house they're thinking of, so you
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: discard half your hand and then you stun your own
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: dudes because they have no creatures, like.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: Like, well, I feel like if I was like, hey,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: drafts car, how would you explain how would you explain
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: prophecies to somebody to be like, think of a house.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: You're wrong, I'm thinking of, Yeah, yeah, that's that's the
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, kid, later the time, you're wrong. Yeah, Like nope,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: that wasn't the one. That's not the one I was
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: thinking of.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: Like, thank you for guessing. You'll get to guess again
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: next round.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: No, think of the house. I guess the house I'm
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 5: thinking of. And then the fate card I put under
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: it is uh, you can see your match right like
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: that going on in the set, right, Like.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: All right, Mark, I will tell you dress. I have
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: not had that scrap effect hit me, so yes, that
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: would be bad.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: We're working on it. Larka infantry three power four arm
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: or after fight, you may exalt larca infantry. If you do,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: your opponent loses.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: To soldiers need to be paid. And I don't care
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: where it comes from.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: This card has been critical to success a few times
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: because a repeated amber control kind of rare.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: It's really in frustrating, especially one of those cards.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: You just quit playing creatures against them because you're just like, hell,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: you can't do your amber control.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: Baha, I attack your life points directly.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: M So yeah, I think of four.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 5: I think I think it's a very strong after fight effect,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: and he's going to reap.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: I think I think it's good. So when we're all,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: I mean just watching, watching what's going on already, Yes,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: Saurin is going to score high because the quality of
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: their creatures is pretty high. But is a Saorium board? Yeah,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: ARCon good, it's definitely sealed killer, right, land a story board,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: win the damn game. You can do it in Saurian
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: or logos in this set where you just land one
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: of those houses, like five of five creatures from the
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: house and you just go ah when and your opponent's
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: going yep mm hm, I can't do anything about it.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: Is it a know? This this pile of cards that
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: we are looking at wins sealed games absolutely, like the
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: rushes sealed game. Does it crush ARCon games? Because I
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: mean we haven't got to the draw to which is critical. Yeah,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: I think this stuff is okay, but you just there's
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: so much stuff in ARCon where you just like don't
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: really have to play creatures necessarily, So you don't have
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: to play into some of this stuff. It's much easier.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: Fine, but our leg still tip over for a dollar.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: Sure, but they do the probably ARCon games that often either.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the problem that we're seeing if you build a
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: big if you're building a big board, it can cause problems.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: But what we're seeing with Trenk's being very viable is
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: actually playing any creatures puts them as a massive liability.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: Trenk be critical and our.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: Coon yet either well we have seen it, we've we've
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: saw it, and uh, the Dutch, the Netherlands, Yeah, we
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: did see it there. We saw what was the one
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: before that, Vietnam, Vietnam. It was quite impertinent there. However,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: like some of them are big and meeting you need Yeah, sure,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: trank some you got them seven Good luck everybody.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: But then there's enough.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: TV is not the only set being played, Like does
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: this really deal with g R.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 5: Well, let's all right, so let's let's uh so let's
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 5: score these and then let's add up the sorry in
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 5: versus the others and let's see let's see.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: How we've compared them.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: What do we give you?
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: Contry A four? Yeah, I said four. I don't know
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: if it's.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: Well, I think sheep, yeah, I think before we go
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: on to that, I think what you're talking about is
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: that there's a lot of disruption in PV and so
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: sorry in itself, I'm not talking about talking about no
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: no no no no no no, but but but I'm
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: telling you that playing Creatures, it's slower typically TV. We
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: want to have the control and that's what's lack king here,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: and so it does not carry a lot of the
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: game breaking fates. If any.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: Was the third house in my well, it was the
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: third house in my lives deck because we have an
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: orator either like they can push amber and that way,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: and that is.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: Phil is also in.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 5: You need those good story and board with good prophecies
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 5: and you're spamming your logos and your diss fates.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: Like that could be pretty good. Or Star Alliance fates.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: They're the worst cards, but the best fates.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, some truth to that.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: Marcela the younger for power just a dinosaur. Marcella is
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: in her very before time, very lamb before time, but
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: very sensual netlice there. She's way little see through. I
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: don't know if I saw that.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, faster after all, right, sorry, after fight after reap
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: you make so that's why sol the younger if you
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: do draw two cards. This is one of the critical ones.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: I feel like to sory in house that can carry
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: the deck because you can stay in sorry and making
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: amber and drawing enough stuff to answer yeah her sor
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: and then when they do clear your board, you go, okay,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: well now you'd have to deal with this other problem
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: because I have a ten card hand or twelve card
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: hand or whatever. Yes, this one is critical. This is
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know it's a four or five?
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: So what is it?
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: Five?
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: I think Marcella is a four.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 3: This is not as good as Filo. Y Filo is
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: a five. I'm thinking four on this.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Marcella is a four only because she
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: really needs order to get up and do the thing.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: That's it. That's all I have.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: But it is, it is.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: This is a big card.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 5: This You want to see these, but you need you
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 5: need a little protection to make her work this one.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 5: Like if you don't have other stuff in your deck,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: that's good, this is no longer good.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: Just making your opponent amper ah and you know so
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: like it's not always a great card and sealed because
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: you may just be drying a bunch of other bad cards.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: I think it's it's witch level, right, like you have
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: to deal with it, so yes.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: She doesn't need to be dealt with Plubius Skippio. Mmm,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: I hate this card. But six power two Armor Dinosaur
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: Soldier splash tap four fate for the remainder of turn
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: after you use a friendly creature, deal for damorrhage to
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: its neighbor. I don't know if I.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: Good well, I I should be fading him more often,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 5: because that is a pretty disruptive.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: When I'm fading this card, it's because I don't have
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: good Surians and I don't want to play any of
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: them otherwise. This guy alone like just controls bored and
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: makes other people, you know, like you just can't answer
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: the Saurian board when this thing's out often.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have good pretty good.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: He's probably still only a four because he's a fighty
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: based thing. Yeah you can't.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 5: I you know, I'm as I'm looking at my score
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: is I think I started because basically what you said, sheep,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: like when I had scored it before, I was like
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 5: pushing some of these down, I think in the commons
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 5: because I was like this can't be that good a
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 5: house based on what I'm feeling I had, I had
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 5: put it a three, but I mean he is I
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: mean six two splash four with an option of a solid.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: Fate effect and sealed. This guy's a monster, absolutely yes,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: but and yeah, outside of sealed, this guy is very
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: strong against certain type of decks, Like if you're playing
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: an opponent who actually wants to play creatures, he's real strong.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: If they don't need creatures logard like just a fan reaper,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: yeah right, board, Yeah, but I don't know if logos
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: Bord is a real thing or just uh, you know,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: a sealed thing. Where are you at wokie? Were you
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: at cheap or sheep? Very sad walk?
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: I am as a three. I don't have very good
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: luck with him.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: I can't.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: I have four doesn't hurt my feelings at all.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: But I play old so like, yeah, but we're trying
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: to you know, we're trying. I mean, I hear what
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 4: I hear what's being said. Yeah, and I think I
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: think there's gonna be an overall I think there's gonna
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: be an overall stipulation. Is it a by itself card? Great?
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: But all of these creatures are like if you land
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: the big board, great, it's it's there, and it's a
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 4: beast to get rid of, especially in sight with the
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: limited c and you'll see some really nice bounce on
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: other cards. But I have not seen sorian as like
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: the ARCon house that's being pulled in. Is that because
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: everyone else is playing diss and logos and so sorry?
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: And just isn't the third is it? Like?
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, let's yeah, I I we might,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: we might have to go back. And because they're there,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: are definitely some much spicier picks. I just I don't
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: know if it's really been given its chance to shoot
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: its shot. There's good stuff. I just think everybody's like,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: oh man, I gotta get the gleaming the cubes, I
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: gotta get the strategic faints. I gotta get the reiterations.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: I gotta get to this. I gotta If I don't
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: have that.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: Now, I want to play all the sixes and not
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: all these fours and fives.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yes, I mean yes, it makes sense.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: But Virgilius Dinosaur politician three power after reap, a neighboring
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: creature captures one ward.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: That creature.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: Really disappointed that this didn't end up with a bild
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: in Ted's excellent adventure.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: Trust that our little problem will be resolved discreetly.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: It feels more like Emperor Palpatine then.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: Then rufus. But I like this car.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: This is a card never really, I guess too terribly
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: upset seeing.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, three power, little little arm control, little wars that
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 5: to protect your dudes, I think three solid.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's yeah, he's fine. Yeah, not amazing.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 4: I like, well, no, but being able to put them
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: into You're like, there's a lot of creatures that I
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: want to protect here in the common slot that Marcella
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: I want us to have Lourica. I do see the
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: value in being able to capture and war that creature.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 4: If it's just capture, I think it's good. I do
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 4: find that people will target it to that which level
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: status because the problem is concealed. You're blowing out these
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: large saurian creatures, and where this can fall, it can
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: be it can be real good.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: I mean we're trying to we're trying to.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: I guess I see the three I I had. I
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: know that's the problem. Okay, had four, But I've been off.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: It's fine.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: Sedimentary nap shuffle creature. What's it all right? Good sedimentary
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: nap up member. Every time we played action play, shuffle
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: a creature into its owner's deck. Fate shuffle the most
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: powerful friendly creature into its owner's deck.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: It's removal gets around the story effects. Yeah, there is
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: so little from hand, see, I mean too low was
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: somewhere right, it's coming up. Yeah, yeah, but you know,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: like they took out they took on all the Seeker.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: I guess the five damage ones.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: It's set right, but yeah, stop, yeah.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It's just there's so little c that
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: this card ends up having more value and it's a
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: decent and it's a decent Fate, but it's still not
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: super strong, so it ends up being like a three
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: storing system. I think you're you're you're fine having it,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: but you're not going like, oh yeah, I need like
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: ten of those.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 4: I don't know. If I'm gaining an amber and I'm
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: throwing it back in your deck, we're.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: Going to get it again. So it's not sure, but.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: But I get that tomorrow. Well, no, it's not as
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: good as killing it, but it gets around it. When
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: you get near the end, it's a little traumatic. Well,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: what's a banya it gets around. I don't know, back
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: to your asking what.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: Its number is?
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: Two? Two?
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is a three now.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: But that's good.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: That's there are yeah.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and archives means I can pull it next turn.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 4: Death does not mean that, right, That's why I'm giving
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 4: it an additional point. Yeah, okay, And Fate you can't target.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 4: It's the most powerful friendly creature, so it's non targetable.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I ever fate sedimentary napp unless
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to burn through cards. Yeah right, that's what
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. Unless I'm trying to burn through cards. I
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: don't know if I fate sedimentary nap like ever, because
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 4: it's more powerful as a play from hand.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: Oh, I definitely do it. I said that often you
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: just don't want to play story in at all, so
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: you fate every sorry in card you get. So the
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: fact that this one actually does something nice.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: Fair, well let's talk about Okay, let's talk about the
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: next one that does something. On of Faith spend THRIFTI November.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: Every time you play an action play, move each ember
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: from a creature to the common supply, exalt that creature,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: fate move each okay from an enemy creature to your opponent's.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: I mean that play effect was a little yann.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: I like this, but is a fake solid. It affects solid.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: So if you don't have amber on your sorry and
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: or any of your creatures, I actually find the play
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 4: effect is fine because I'm gaining an amber and frankly,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: I can go ahead and essentially if you have no
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 4: amber there, I can exalt one of your creatures. So
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: if I have a chance, it's two off of it correct,
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: So that's I actually find the effect is decent.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: But this is one where currently I see when the
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: fate comes off your opponent like they don't at least
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: well I played with my locals, like they don't value
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: the spendthrift fate as high as some of the other
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: effects that remove all the amber. So it still hits
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: with a little bit of surprise. I don't think that
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: stays that way. But it's a the fate effect where
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: it just flushes everything can be pretty good.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 5: So I have it a three because most of the
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 5: time it's mediocre, but occasionally it's quite good.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: I accept I as well accept.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: I had a four, but we're fine.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: Two play choose an enemy creature to strange creature with
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: less power than the chosen creature's power, fate the strange
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: friendly creature with the lowest power.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: Here, I almost never fate this card because there's so
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: little scenans that I'm using it as the sea, And
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: if you're playing a decent story house, you can often
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: end up with the much better board after playing this card.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 5: Well, I was just playing somebody where I faded this
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 5: and they played a huge board of two power creatures,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 5: including a whole bunch of including a whole.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: Bunch of fall guys, and uh but I had no
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: emberor at this they didn't guess the house I was
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: thinking of. The whole board died and they stole nothing.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: It was glorious. But that is that is the minority. Yeah,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: I mean it's fight abilities. Fine. I just find that
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: when I've been playing and this is a sealed, the
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: sealed experience is like this is the only real sea
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: card you have in your whole damn deck. So you're
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: like going like, no, can't get rid of this.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you hold it sometimes even though it's okay because
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 5: just because of this.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but and this is the reason and actually not
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: to play. So if you have a board where all
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: the creatures are basically the same power. I'm more scared
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: about Star Alliance with Katrina Flux and things of that sort.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: But if I'm playing against Sorian, I'm actually okay keeping
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 4: it all at three and not playing my four power
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: creatures because if you play the fourth then it wipes
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 4: out your lor ac On infantry and things of that sort.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: So like even going ahead and playing the pluvious screepyot
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: like now all of a sudden, anything under six gets
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: wiped and typically more amber almost no, no, But I'm
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: saying when I play it, oftentimes what's happening is I
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: will actually not play my six power creature if I
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 4: know that they're playing. Sorry, and because it can like
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 4: too low in common slot comes frequently, so like that
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 4: is something to think about.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: Absolutely. I feel like I think it's a I mean,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 3: what where's Quatrino in those there are fours? I think
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: it's I like those better. But let me see four
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: four four. Yeah, this is four and Quintrut Warp is
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: a four.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: So the thing about Katrino is that you can pick
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 4: the individual power. Here. This is wiping both sides all
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 4: creatures under it. So that is yeah, it's not a
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: perfect card.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 3: No, it's still I actually.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: I actually think this is designed.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: Well here, it's still a four.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: What we don't we four? All right?
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: For the average power level.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: Where we are scoring.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 5: Sorry, I'm pretty high, guys, all right, I know, and
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 5: they're they're not that good?
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 5: So hold on, So if I and now this is
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 5: just the new cards, the total of the Saurian new
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 5: cards is seventy six. Nope, wrong, Oh that's correct, yep,
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 5: seventy six. All right, So let's look at logos.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: Well, are you why did you guys do this this way?
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 3: We didn't do anything. You're the keeper of the list,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: all right.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 5: Hold on, hold on, So well, Redemption's got too many
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 5: new cards, so it's gonna be hard to compare, all right,
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 5: So let's go to here. We're gonna go logos. So
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 5: the total new cards logos, which may or may have
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 5: the same count, is seventy. So we gave logos seventy
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 5: for the new cards, and we just gave seventy six
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 5: to Saurian. That doesn't feel right, all right, Let's go
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 5: to Diss for new cards, and diss seventy also, Yeah,
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 5: that's all I see what's what I'm saying.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: But you're you guys are also forget there's a lot
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: of ship in the reprints. Yeah, we gave reduction, so
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: that feels okay, charbads whatever that fucking like sea monsters. Yeah,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: use garbage stop.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 5: We have to look at the commons again. I think
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 5: we move governess uh so then went down to a
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 5: three because it's too too hit and miss.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna save a point here and there. It's it's
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 3: the common.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 4: But I feel I feel that we're just nitpicking. There
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 4: the problem like.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: Dark centurions to the amore right, grib blocks dukes all right,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: so yeahs.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, darks.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of very very very bad
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: reprints and you see them often got silo.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: You know, and like dark center and I feel like
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 3: we'd give that a three right now. So we're overvaluating,
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: like decent body can read.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so shift everything down a point.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: There you go, all the creatures.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: Just take a point off them, Just take a point off.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, let's sort of be where they kind of were,
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 3: a bunch of them. I think that would probably make
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: it about right, because that would drop us down from
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: seventy six to like sixty six.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 5: So I was thinking about this. So if we took
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 5: a point off all the let's say so Rufus, we'd
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 5: take to it two. It would take you he more
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 5: than more than not dies before he ever gets the chance.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: To do his thing.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: Marcella, we should leave it at four, right, Marcella, you
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: can do a four lor Kana infantry you think you think,
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 3: move it down, every creature, just move it down a
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 3: point three. So then.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: Larcia would probably from Marcela because Marcella, before it ever
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: gets to do.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 3: Anything, the arch leg e is so good. Yeah, he's
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 3: so to a four.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 5: All right, let's do this experiment, so hidden agent, you
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 5: put it a zero. Yeah, yeah, where.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: Nobody cares about the.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: Safe and the governor Governor GRIDLK.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 5: We put it a two then, yeah, okay, sounds good.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 5: So guias a two. If you do this, we're twenty two.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 5: If I type properly, let's say, boy.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: A whole bunch of people's decks just spite because they
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: have Gaius lot.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and then the licktor just the end goes to
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 5: a four, okay, So.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 4: Adrian and.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: Goes to a one okay, which is where I had
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: it in the beginning. That's fine, all right, So then
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: this is gonna be you just start to see it,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 3: so hold on. So we got one too, six, seven,
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 3: and nineten.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 5: Eleven, so it's going to be down by eleven.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: So what I said, take it, h sounds about it? Yeah,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: do it, and then redo my TV decks. I mean
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: I can how does that compare to your original scores?
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 5: Well, I just over wrote them, unfortunately, so because well
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 5: some of them you convinced, right, So Hadris, we got
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 5: back to our I was with Hadrius, got back where
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 5: I was with Lictor Justinian. Uh, guy, yes, I think
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 5: I guys was the one I was torn on where
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 5: like I had him at a three, but he just
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 5: had done enough thing for me. So nights at a two.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 5: Governor good Delk I had a three originally Nine's two.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 5: Hidden Agent five was zero. Arch Legate I had a five.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 5: Sylvana three. I had her higher, but then most of
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 5: these I had. Yeah, I had lor Keia out of three.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 5: I think, why are we gonna start handing out negative
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 5: points orsell out of three? I had Scoopy out of three,
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 5: Rufe's out of three, nose two.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, that's about the same. Okay, good job, guys,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: good job everybody, virtual high fives.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 4: Yay.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 5: I mean we changed this around, like, all right, so
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 5: we're gonna we're gonna, yeah, we're gonna do the score.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 4: All right. So again, I think that the idea for
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 4: Sealed Yes Srian plays a lot better than what we're
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 4: seeing for Argon. Are there any reprint cards that really
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 4: stood out to you guys that are like, hey, I
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 4: think they've increased in value.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: The stupid armor cards. The stupid card got them when
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: it goes on your atrocity Filo is good because orators
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: in set other things that actually hit big. All the
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: ward is it's medium.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: You have Imperium back.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Defense Initiative.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 4: We have some solid cards that are returned, but they
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 4: just hit a little bit different, which is interesting.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: Bill Still really you know, Library Library of Polysaurus is junk.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: Tectonics still junk, exiled not that good in this set.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: Sorry about that. Hey see see we'll take it. Patron
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: was junk, still junk. Yeah yeah, Elis Dumari was junk,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: still junk. Imperial Forge doesn't hit in the set. City
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 3: Gates is fine as good as it used to be,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 3: maybe better, and that we are. There's lots of dinos
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 3: in the set. No that the cards are bad, they're
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 3: still bad. Yeah, you're right, like the reprints, they did
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 3: not do soriy in a lot of favors here. No,
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 3: no grim ducks.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, who's happy to see him.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 4: I think that I think the commons are actually fine.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 4: It's when you get into the uncommons. But because of
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 4: the smaller cardpool, we're actually seeing a higher amount of n.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: Even when I'm winning with Sourrian, I still consider discarding
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 3: the ducks because I'm just like, this is just too
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: amber for my opponent. This is stupid.
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 4: Well, but I think that's what happens is that we're
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 4: seeing that they're the creatures are going away pretty consistently,
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 4: and so these become amber pinadas. They're just spread across
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 4: multiple pinadas.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry about that, not me.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just okay, we got anything else?
• 1:38:21
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• 1:38:25
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• 1:38:29
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• 1:38:35
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• 1:38:38
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• 1:38:43
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• 1:38:48
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• 1:38:52
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• 1:38:56
  Speaker 3: what if you were to take a game and you
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: were told to destroy it, but without letting people know
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 3: you're trying to destroy it?
• 1:39:02
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• 1:39:13
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  Speaker 2: us to put footers in there. I haven't actually looked
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  Speaker 2: to see what that does for the rest of everything,
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  Speaker 2: so actually I got to check that out on all
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  Speaker 2: the other things if it actually follows over or not.
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  Speaker 2: are you.
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  Speaker 3: Huh?
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  Speaker 4: All right?
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  Speaker 2: Never mind?
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  Speaker 2: your bitch for seventeen and a half seconds.
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  Speaker 3: Whoa, wow, it's kind of true.
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  Speaker 5: I thought we'd charge at least a dollar. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 5: at least a block. Even bitches get paid since to
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  Speaker 5: have sense. Yeah yeah, I'll send you her hair. I'm
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  Speaker 5: updating all these scores here.
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  Speaker 2: All right, new scores are out. Make sure you go
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  Speaker 2: get your update. And with that being said, we will
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  Speaker 2: see you all next week.
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  Speaker 3: For everyone. Glad be with you and happy forging, Happy forging,
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  Speaker 3: get better, Losers, stop sucking, losers later, losers.
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  Speaker 4: I'm allowed to get on the stage.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well exactly. Bandana Puck puck chicken on about po
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  Speaker 3: banana and a pot pop up bandana.
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  Speaker 1: Puck Puck puck put chickens on a buck banana, Puck
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  Speaker 1: on about bo banana and pop pop up bandanas. Park
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  Speaker 1: bandanas