Latest / Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald / Real Housewives’ Plastic Surgery Suits and Lesbian Lovers with Brandy and Julie
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Reward the easy way.
- 0:01Speaker 2: Optionscard.ie.
- 0:28Speaker 1: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on
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- 0:52Speaker 3: listen up. Woo, woo.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Heather MacDonald.
- 0:56Speaker 3: Juicy Scoop.
- 0:58Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have the dynamic
- 1:02Speaker 1: comedic duo Julie and Brandy back again.
- 1:06Speaker 3: It's been too long.
- 1:07Speaker 1: Wearing white, looking gorgeous like two little virgins in the wind.
- 1:12Speaker 2: That's what we are.
- 1:14Speaker 1: We're two virgins. And it's been a minute. A lot
- 1:17Speaker 1: of people thought that you had ended your friendship with me.
- 1:20Speaker 1: I had to be very clear that there was a
- 1:22Speaker 1: death in the family. And you were scheduled to come
- 1:24Speaker 1: on a few weeks ago, and we had to reschedule,
- 1:27Speaker 1: and then this was the next available date for.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Both of us.
- 1:30Speaker 1: But your little dog has gone to doggy heaven.
- 1:34Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:35Speaker 5: And.
- 1:36Speaker 3: That was terrible.
- 1:38Speaker 1: I know.
- 1:38Speaker 3: And your flowers, which were very expensive, Heather.
- 1:41Speaker 1: Oh, thank you.
- 1:42Speaker 3: Now, I mean, people don't even realize that you have
- 1:46Speaker 3: to go to a specific, like, florist... To get the
- 1:50Speaker 3: nice flowers.
- 1:51Speaker 1: I am so excited to tell you that I told Peter,
- 1:54Speaker 1: send Brandy flowers, and he did it all.
- 1:57Speaker 3: Well, have you looked to see how much he spent?
- 1:59Speaker 3: Because you might get irritated.
- 2:00Speaker 1: No, not at all. No, no. I think I gave
- 2:02Speaker 1: him the amount, so I'm glad that it reflected the amount.
- 2:05Speaker 1: They were beautiful. Okay, good. And we're recording this a
- 2:09Speaker 1: few days early, so we have a girls' night that's
- 2:12Speaker 1: happening tomorrow. And I'm pretty excited. We're going to a
- 2:15Speaker 1: new hotspot called Drake's. Not related to my son. No,
- 2:18Speaker 1: he does not own a nightclub.
- 2:20Speaker 3: Not yet.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Not yet.
- 2:22Speaker 3: And Julie is allowed at the girls' nights, even though
- 2:25Speaker 3: she has cock-blocked us in the past. I know. Sorry.
- 2:28Speaker 3: When the golfers came up to us at your beautiful home.
- 2:32Speaker 1: Yes.
- 2:32Speaker 3: Julie tried to ruin our fun with the golfers.
- 2:34Speaker 6: I know.
- 2:35Speaker 3: I know.
- 2:36Speaker 1: Sorry.
- 2:36Speaker 2: It's so annoying having me and girls. But I really
- 2:39Speaker 2: appreciate it. I would really try my best to be like, hey, guys.
- 2:44Speaker 1: What's up?
- 2:44Speaker 2: No, we love it when you just insert yourself. Come on.
- 2:47Speaker 1: We love it. She was like, yeah, a lot of
- 2:50Speaker 1: eye rolling.
- 2:52Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 2:53Speaker 1: And we're all pretty buzzed. And so, yeah, all of
- 2:54Speaker 1: us were pretty excited to see these young guys. We
- 2:57Speaker 1: went into the house. I brought them out Coors Light. Oh, yeah.
- 3:01Speaker 2: Because they asked for it. You got anything to drink
- 3:04Speaker 2: in there?
- 3:06Speaker 1: Uh-huh. I mean, like, we sure do. We've been waiting
- 3:09Speaker 1: for you.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Everyone's just sitting here waiting for you. I love it.
- 3:12Speaker 1: That's exactly what happened.
- 3:14Speaker 3: That is what she did.
- 3:14Speaker 1: Exactly what happened.
- 3:15Speaker 2: They asked for it.
- 3:16Speaker 3: She was literally stunned, Heather, that men drive up in
- 3:19Speaker 3: golf carts and approach women who are, you know.
- 3:23Speaker 1: Of a certain age?
- 3:24Speaker 3: Slutty dancing in their own pool.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Oh, okay.
- 3:26Speaker 5: All right.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:27Speaker 3: No, no. It wasn't that. It was that we were
- 3:28Speaker 3: all slutty dancing in your pool being ourselves and that
- 3:31Speaker 3: men had the audacity to drive up in the golf
- 3:33Speaker 3: carts like, hey.
- 3:34Speaker 2: What's going on here?
- 3:35Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 3:36Speaker 1: Yeah, I loved every second of it.
- 3:38Speaker 2: I will now, because, yeah, I apologize.
- 3:40Speaker 1: We'll have another weekend, even though it's going to be
- 3:43Speaker 1: really hot. I say we do another weekend and just
- 3:45Speaker 1: sit in the pool and wait to see if anybody
- 3:47Speaker 1: comes by, which probably won't be too many people when
- 3:49Speaker 1: it's like middle of July, but we're still going to go.
- 3:51Speaker 3: You're not going to. like, lock up the house for
- 3:53Speaker 3: the burning hot summer.
- 3:55Speaker 1: No, no, we'll probably go in a few weeks, even
- 3:57Speaker 1: though it's super hot.
- 3:57Speaker 3: Yeah, like, we don't care if it's a thousand degrees.
- 4:00Speaker 3: We love it there.
- 4:01Speaker 1: Yeah, you just go in a pool with a big hat.
- 4:03Speaker 3: And that's that.
- 4:04Speaker 6: I'm going to get a one-piece bathing suit with a
- 4:06Speaker 6: Serapi that goes around, and I'm going to, like, jiggle
- 4:09Speaker 6: the titties and wait for them to come.
- 4:11Speaker 1: It's tech-friendly.
- 4:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to support you.
- 4:13Speaker 1: Exactly. The less.
- 4:17Speaker 3: Well-off golfers do golf when it's that hot.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Because it's cheaper. Yes, and it's not crowded, so Drake
- 4:23Speaker 1: will do it. Listen, I don't know if you know
- 4:26Speaker 1: what's going on with Dorit.
- 4:28Speaker 3: We don't know.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Dorit Kemsley of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills has been
- 4:33Speaker 1: accused of stiffing a nurse who claims to have helped
- 4:36Speaker 1: her after plastic surgery. So I'm guessing she got a
- 4:42Speaker 1: lower facelift.
- 4:43Speaker 3: I can't wait for mine.
- 4:44Speaker 1: For what? She doesn't need it yet, but I'm guessing
- 4:47Speaker 1: that's what she got because that's what a lot of
- 4:49Speaker 1: people are doing. Based on what she needed and my
- 4:54Speaker 1: knowledge of procedures, and a lot of my friends are
- 4:58Speaker 1: getting it, and I'm probably next in line. But anyway,
- 5:01Speaker 1: this girl, Natalie, said she's a private nurse, so it's
- 5:04Speaker 1: after you get the plastic surgery, you have the person
- 5:06Speaker 1: come to your house, drain your blood things or whatever,
- 5:09Speaker 1: and then just make sure that you have some smoothies
- 5:11Speaker 1: and live. So she worked 86 hours at $ 100 an hour. Ooh. Wow.
- 5:15Speaker 1: So it was a few days, I guess, after. Wow.
- 5:19Speaker 1: And so she owes her $ 8, 600, $ 8, 675 to be exact.
- 5:23Speaker 1: And so she's demanded, she wants her actually to appear
- 5:26Speaker 1: in court with her financial records. And she wants to
- 5:29Speaker 1: absolutely get the debt. So she just completely stiffed her,
- 5:34Speaker 1: the entire amount, which is kind of crazy, according to
- 5:36Speaker 1: this woman, allegedly.
- 5:37Speaker 3: And you'd think he'd pay her at least $ 4, 000 and
- 5:39Speaker 3: be like, no, I thought we agreed on $ 50 an hour.
- 5:42Speaker 1: I think maybe she did pay her partial. No, she
- 5:44Speaker 1: says she still owes her the $ 8, 600, according to this.
- 5:47Speaker 3: Doesn't that seem a very high rate?
- 5:49Speaker 1: $ 100 an hour, and you don't want her to leave. Well,
- 5:53Speaker 1: you know what happened, mind you? PK was so busy
- 5:57Speaker 1: doing so many business deals with Boyd George, and I
- 6:01Speaker 1: had had, you know, a little something just a little
- 6:05Speaker 1: tightening for when I look out the window in my outfits.
- 6:08Speaker 1: I needed a stronger profile, mind you. And Phoenix and Jagger.
- 6:14Speaker 1: They were busy with their schooling and whatnot. And so
- 6:17Speaker 1: I wanted a professional nurse. Now that nurse, I thought
- 6:22Speaker 1: PK had paid her and he thought I had paid her.
- 6:25Speaker 1: So there was absolutely just a misunderstanding. And Natalie, I
- 6:29Speaker 1: call her Natalia, is a very, very sweet lady. And
- 6:33Speaker 1: it's all good. And actually, there's no drama here. Doesn't
- 6:39Speaker 1: she sound like the type of person that would just
- 6:40Speaker 1: change someone's day? It's Natalie. She's like, Natalia, can I
- 6:46Speaker 1: please have a little smoothie and a straw, mind you?
- 6:51Speaker 1: So that's what happened. I mean.
- 6:53Speaker 3: What do they have to do, Heather? Take blood out
- 6:56Speaker 3: of the side of your face that drains off into tubes?
- 6:57Speaker 4: You know what?
- 6:58Speaker 2: Let me tell you something.
- 6:58Speaker 3: I think so.
- 6:59Speaker 1: That I haven't had done, but I'm telling you, I'm
- 7:01Speaker 1: going to probably get a consulting.
- 7:03Speaker 3: Yes.
- 7:03Speaker 2: First of all, I had a total knee replacement.
- 7:06Speaker 1: I'm going to go to Dr. Kasabian, actually, for that.
- 7:07Speaker 1: He told me he'd give me a deal.
- 7:09Speaker 3: I'm going to Margaret Joseph's guy.
- 7:11Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
- 7:11Speaker 3: All right.
- 7:11Speaker 1: Well, I'm going Dr.
- 7:12Speaker 3: Sandman.
- 7:12Speaker 5: Okay.
- 7:12Speaker 3: Well, you, I mean, that Dr.
- 7:13Speaker 6: Sandman.
- 7:14Speaker 1: Lift MD. Yeah. Well, whatever. He's amazing. Go on.
- 7:17Speaker 3: Yes.
- 7:17Speaker 2: I just want to say I had a total knee replacement.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah.
- 7:21Speaker 6: And which I believe would be a similar or worse
- 7:24Speaker 6: recouping than, let's say, a lower facelift that she needed
- 7:28Speaker 6: a full nurse for to pay her $ 8, 600.
- 7:29Speaker 1: Okay.
- 7:29Speaker 5: Okay.
- 7:31Speaker 6: I had a full nurse named Brandy Howard who literally
- 7:34Speaker 6: may as well push me out of the bed.
- 7:36Speaker 3: I ordered vodka the first hour in Postmates because she
- 7:39Speaker 3: was so annoying. I had to just start drinking to
- 7:42Speaker 3: be around her.
- 7:43Speaker 2: No one helped me.
- 7:45Speaker 6: I wiped my own ass. I went into my own shower.
- 7:47Speaker 6: I had to get up by myself to walk. I
- 7:49Speaker 6: did everything by myself for the most part, except maybe
- 7:51Speaker 6: for the first 48 hours. The fact that she had
- 7:54Speaker 6: anyone there doing anything, it makes me feel insane because
- 7:58Speaker 6: she didn't need it.
- 8:00Speaker 3: No one needs it.
- 8:00Speaker 2: I imagine that does hurt. Yeah, I'm sure it hurts.
- 8:03Speaker 6: And PK could have gotten her some smoothies rather than
- 8:06Speaker 6: hire a nurse to do any.
- 8:08Speaker 2: I just... Something about all of this.
- 8:11Speaker 3: Is bugging me. PK's off in London doing his TV show.
- 8:14Speaker 2: Jagger could have done it.
- 8:15Speaker 3: Oh, that's true.
- 8:17Speaker 1: Well, I have some other Bravo juice.
- 8:21Speaker 3: Oh, God.
- 8:22Speaker 1: Vanderpump Rules. This is Faith. Faith is the one in
- 8:27Speaker 1: the show that was taking, she was an elderly caregiver.
- 8:32Speaker 1: And before Brittany and Jax got married, Jax had an
- 8:39Speaker 1: evening with her. And I always wondered if the woman
- 8:41Speaker 1: was still in the hospital bed, but he went over
- 8:43Speaker 1: to whatever work she was doing. And they had a
- 8:46Speaker 1: moment and she recorded it, recorded him talking to her
- 8:51Speaker 1: and shared it with one of the other cast members,
- 8:53Speaker 1: which then it got out. That was like the second
- 8:55Speaker 1: juiciest scandal, I think, up to this one. This is juicy.
- 9:00Speaker 1: Kyle Richards. Oh. Some people are suspicious of Kyle Richards'
- 9:04Speaker 1: relationship with this girl in the back here. She is
- 9:09Speaker 1: a singer, and she is also, I guess she got
- 9:15Speaker 1: to go on Teddy's jet for Teddy's birthday, and they
- 9:18Speaker 1: share a trainer. Here they are. Uh-oh. Exactly.
- 9:23Speaker 5: Uh-oh.
- 9:25Speaker 1: So that is exactly what the fans are saying is, uh-oh.
- 9:27Speaker 1: So here's a photo of Kyle working out with this girl.
- 9:32Speaker 1: She's fully tattooed. She has a tattooed neck. And it's
- 9:35Speaker 1: reminding a lot of people of when Bronwyn first of
- 9:38Speaker 1: OC became a lesbian. Her first lover was a tattooed, necked,
- 9:44Speaker 1: good-looking girl. And there just seems to be a lot
- 9:48Speaker 1: of photos, a lot of posting of it. And people
- 9:52Speaker 1: are wondering... Is this a real possible relationship? Other people
- 9:57Speaker 1: said no. She's said to like guys... Other people said no.
- 10:01Speaker 1: She's bi. Other people said, is this a storyline to
- 10:06Speaker 1: tease it? Because what else does she have going on?
- 10:09Speaker 1: Or is there real issues with Mauricio? Or is it
- 10:11Speaker 1: just that they both like working out?
- 10:14Speaker 3: It seems a bit of a troll simply because this
- 10:17Speaker 3: is one of the worst photos I've ever seen. The
- 10:19Speaker 3: girl has her tongue out.
- 10:20Speaker 1: Because she's like that.
- 10:22Speaker 3: And Kyle's looking oddly into her own camera. It's like
- 10:25Speaker 3: you couldn't take one extra picture where we're all prepared
- 10:28Speaker 3: for the photo. But I know one of the— But
- 10:30Speaker 3: then she tried.
- 10:30Speaker 1: To be cool, like do those cool non-curated photos like
- 10:34Speaker 1: she did for the first 20 years of Instagram.
- 10:36Speaker 6: Now it's be— now it's just like whoops we're not
- 10:40Speaker 6: lezzing out yeah we're just working out yeah like that
- 10:43Speaker 6: yes we're not lezzing out at all I like guys.
- 10:48Speaker 3: It's a good time to let people know, though, because
- 10:51Speaker 3: Ozempic and the weight loss things are really blowing up.
- 10:55Speaker 3: And it's been, you know.
- 10:57Speaker 2: It's turning people gay.
- 10:58Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 10:59Speaker 3: That's one of the side effects.
- 11:00Speaker 1: It is. I love that.
- 11:02Speaker 3: You know, it's like if you're a woman and you
- 11:04Speaker 3: want to stay in your marriage, be careful with Ozempic
- 11:06Speaker 3: because you're going to start liking that pussy.
- 11:09Speaker 1: Also, they say your rings could fall off, which just
- 11:11Speaker 1: means you've lost weight.
- 11:13Speaker 4: Right.
- 11:13Speaker 1: And your rings could fall. So your wedding ring could
- 11:16Speaker 1: fall off during Ozempic. And then that same now free
- 11:20Speaker 1: finger can go finger your friend.
- 11:22Speaker 2: That's right.
- 11:23Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 11:23Speaker 2: That's right. Finger your friend.
- 11:26Speaker 3: If you're on Ozempic, give me a ring.
- 11:28Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 11:29Speaker 4: Exactly.
- 11:29Speaker 1: She's a trainer.
- 11:30Speaker 3: She's going to start training people.
- 11:31Speaker 1: That's probably what happened.
- 11:32Speaker 3: I started a training business.
- 11:33Speaker 1: I think that totally makes sense.
- 11:34Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 11:35Speaker 3: Doesn't it seem like, I mean, it's, it, And it
- 11:37Speaker 3: could be a side effect of Zempik. There hasn't been
- 11:39Speaker 3: enough research.
- 11:40Speaker 1: No, there really hasn't. I hope that's a side effect
- 11:44Speaker 1: of it. Have you seen what's going on with Russell
- 11:46Speaker 1: Simmons and his daughters?
- 11:48Speaker 4: No.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Okay, so he has these two daughters. You remember when
- 11:52Speaker 1: Kimora Lee Simmons had her own show? Of course we do.
- 11:56Speaker 1: And they broke up. So Kimora was a model, and
- 12:02Speaker 1: she married Russell Simmons. And she had a short, maybe
- 12:06Speaker 1: it wasn't short-lived. It was during the E! style network
- 12:09Speaker 1: time of everyone having a reality show.
- 12:10Speaker 3: That was one of our favorite reality shows of all time.
- 12:12Speaker 1: Okay, so then she had the two or three little girls.
- 12:15Speaker 1: I don't know. Then she married this guy who allegedly,
- 12:20Speaker 1: this guy named Tim, allegedly there was a big financial
- 12:25Speaker 1: snafu that happened with Russell Simmons and him. This husband
- 12:29Speaker 1: of hers. Anyway, that's important to the story. Meanwhile, the
- 12:32Speaker 1: two girls are now like college age. They've like graduated
- 12:35Speaker 1: from Harvard, whatever. And one of them goes on her
- 12:38Speaker 1: Instagram stories and is crying about how awful the dad
- 12:42Speaker 1: is to her that he cut her, that she was
- 12:46Speaker 1: in Greece and he cut off her card or something.
- 12:50Speaker 1: And some people are like, okay, but you did graduate
- 12:51Speaker 1: from college and like your mom has some money and
- 12:53Speaker 1: like whatever. Other people are like, no, he actually cut
- 12:57Speaker 1: her off at 15 and he also, and she's also
- 13:00Speaker 1: crying saying, dad, I don't want to talk to you
- 13:02Speaker 1: because you say that my mom's a piece of shit.
- 13:04Speaker 1: Then she got on Instagram live, Kimora Lee. And she's like,
- 13:08Speaker 1: looking back at my life, you know, it was really
- 13:11Speaker 1: fucking weird, Russell, that I started dating you when I
- 13:14Speaker 1: was 16. So now everyone's like, that is weird. And
- 13:19Speaker 1: that is a weird grooming thing. And she's like, I
- 13:22Speaker 1: was a model and I met you and dah, dah, dah. But.
- 13:25Speaker 1: Then they got divorced and they seemed for a long
- 13:27Speaker 1: time during that show to have a decent divorce.
- 13:29Speaker 4: Good friends.
- 13:29Speaker 1: And she got a lot of money. But he keeps
- 13:32Speaker 1: bringing up this lawsuit and this stealing situation with this
- 13:35Speaker 1: guy that she dated or got married to named Tim
- 13:38Speaker 1: that somehow stole money from him. And it's a big
- 13:41Speaker 1: mess and it's all happening on Instagram Live. And the
- 13:43Speaker 1: consensus is. Pretty girls with a Harvard education, you need
- 13:47Speaker 1: to start working. And Russell Simmons is a weird dick
- 13:52Speaker 1: that a lot of people have accused a lot of
- 13:54Speaker 1: things of. And he doesn't seem to be like a
- 13:57Speaker 1: loving father at this point.
- 14:00Speaker 3: Russell Simmons has definitely not gotten dragged. Because he was
- 14:03Speaker 3: in the Me Too thing, wasn't he? I thought so.
- 14:06Speaker 2: I don't remember what he did.
- 14:07Speaker 1: Yes, there were Me Too stuff.
- 14:08Speaker 3: I don't know the details. Julie has always had a
- 14:10Speaker 3: huge problem with him.
- 14:12Speaker 2: I know, for not even before that. And I didn't
- 14:14Speaker 2: even know why. And I feel like we shouldn't.
- 14:15Speaker 1: Why? Because he's into yoga?
- 14:16Speaker 3: I don't know what it was.
- 14:17Speaker 1: Why was he so into yoga?
- 14:18Speaker 3: That's what Julia ate.
- 14:19Speaker 6: There was something, yeah, with yoga and the bracelets and
- 14:22Speaker 6: you're vegan.
- 14:23Speaker 1: It's like, what are you hiding?
- 14:25Speaker 2: And I didn't believe you.
- 14:26Speaker 6: It's just something when you're so, so self-righteous, I know
- 14:31Speaker 6: you're hiding something.
- 14:32Speaker 3: And you know what? We did all know. We might
- 14:34Speaker 3: not have remembered, but it's in the zeitgeist that he
- 14:37Speaker 3: started dating her quite young. And we all knew we
- 14:39Speaker 3: forgot because we were all fine with it then.
- 14:42Speaker 1: It's like Celine Dion. Yeah. Her manager was 50. She
- 14:47Speaker 1: met him when she was 12. But nothing happened, even
- 14:52Speaker 1: though he got divorced, nothing happened until she turned 18
- 14:56Speaker 1: and then was like, you know who I'm in love with?
- 14:59Speaker 1: My 54-year-old manager that I met when I was 12.
- 15:04Speaker 3: She did seem in love with him, though.
- 15:06Speaker 1: It worked out. She was dedicated and in love with
- 15:10Speaker 1: him until the day he died.
- 15:11Speaker 3: And now she also did some Ozempic because she does
- 15:14Speaker 3: seem like she likes the puss-puss a little.
- 15:16Speaker 1: Well, now she has stiff person syndrome. What?
- 15:21Speaker 2: That's not real.
- 15:23Speaker 1: What? No, it's called stiff person syndrome.
- 15:25Speaker 2: So what?
- 15:26Speaker 1: I don't know. It's painful, but that's why she said
- 15:28Speaker 1: to cancel her thing.
- 15:30Speaker 2: Oh, I thought this was a joke.
- 15:31Speaker 1: No, it's not. I don't know what it is, but honestly,
- 15:34Speaker 1: it should be called Selenium.
- 15:36Speaker 3: It needs a new... It has to have a new name.
- 15:38Speaker 1: Because it's not well-known, I mean, I hope there's a
- 15:40Speaker 1: cure for it. but kind of like a Lou Gehrig's disease,
- 15:44Speaker 1: I think it should be called Celine Dion.
- 15:45Speaker 2: Yeah, the Celine Dion. Is it something where she's literally stiff?
- 15:48Speaker 1: No, I really don't know the things about it, but it's, like, sad.
- 15:53Speaker 1: That sucks. Yeah, it really does suck.
- 15:55Speaker 3: We need to do some research. Well, before she got
- 15:57Speaker 3: stiff person syndrome, she did seem like she was, like, veering, like,
- 16:02Speaker 3: on the les spectrum to.
- 16:05Speaker 1: A little lessee. I could see someone that's so dedicated
- 16:08Speaker 1: to their husband who's deceased. To then just go, yeah,
- 16:14Speaker 1: he was the only man I loved. He was the
- 16:15Speaker 1: only man I knew. But when you see a woman,
- 16:21Speaker 1: a woman, it's a completely different thing. And I think
- 16:25Speaker 1: that my husband and my boys would completely support a
- 16:28Speaker 1: relationship like this. But another man coming.
- 16:31Speaker 3: No.
- 16:32Speaker 2: That's what I think.
- 16:33Speaker 1: I hope she gets better and I hope she becomes
- 16:36Speaker 1: a lesbian. She doesn't need to lose any more weight,
- 16:38Speaker 1: but she could become a lesbian.
- 16:40Speaker 2: But that's, again, it fits in with what we were saying.
- 16:42Speaker 6: She's getting real too skinny, and then she starts fingering.
- 16:45Speaker 3: A woman could really help her with her stiff syndrome.
- 16:48Speaker 3: They're caregivers. Just not the one who took care of Dorit.
- 16:51Speaker 1: Yeah, and just relax.
- 16:53Speaker 2: Right.
- 16:53Speaker 1: Just relax. Yeah. Okay.
- 16:58Speaker 2: Be careful, Heather.
- 16:59Speaker 3: We're going to get you over.
- 16:59Speaker 1: Anytime. I mean, I... Listen, something happens to Peter. I've
- 17:05Speaker 1: said it very clear.
- 17:06Speaker 3: I just.
- 17:07Speaker 1: did a show with Chris about how awful it would
- 17:09Speaker 1: be to have to, like, date on an app. So,
- 17:12Speaker 1: I mean, no. If that happens to Peter, I'm going
- 17:14Speaker 1: to be like, hot girls that want to work out
- 17:17Speaker 1: with me with a tattooed neck, come my way. Because
- 17:21Speaker 1: I am not looking for another, you know, 50-ish... You know,
- 17:27Speaker 1: broken man that likes to golf with a bad knee
- 17:30Speaker 1: that is clearing his throat. I've done that.
- 17:33Speaker 2: Sounds like me.
- 17:35Speaker 3: But there is currently a band of tattoo trainer women
- 17:39Speaker 3: that are plotting Peter's death.
- 17:41Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. At this moment.
- 17:43Speaker 6: And your first TikTok is going to be your hands
- 17:45Speaker 6: filled with the jewelry and you're going to go whoosh.
- 17:48Speaker 2: And they're all going to fly off. You're going to
- 17:50Speaker 2: be like, I'm ready.
- 17:51Speaker 1: And that's it. You know how some people will say like, I...
- 17:54Speaker 1: This is sad, but like I developed an eating disorder
- 17:56Speaker 1: because some kid in middle school said I was fat
- 17:58Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah. When I was around 24, I went
- 18:01Speaker 1: to a dinner with a couple people and this lesbian said, Heather,
- 18:05Speaker 1: no lesbian would ever want you. You are like the
- 18:08Speaker 1: most undesirable type to a lesbian. And I think that
- 18:12Speaker 1: it just stuck in my head. And I really don't.
- 18:15Speaker 1: I've literally never been hit on by a woman in
- 18:17Speaker 1: my life. I really think I'm like the opposite of
- 18:20Speaker 1: what a lesbian would want.
- 18:20Speaker 3: Because she just thought you were violently heterosexual. Yeah.
- 18:23Speaker 1: Violently. Yeah. I don't know.
- 18:25Speaker 3: Because if you've never been hit on by a woman,
- 18:27Speaker 3: that's also lesbians are looking like, yeah, she's too.
- 18:31Speaker 2: She's probably super straight.
- 18:32Speaker 1: You're just radiating.
- 18:33Speaker 4: No.
- 18:34Speaker 3: Radiating straight.
- 18:35Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 18:36Speaker 2: Which is no.
- 18:36Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 18:37Speaker 1: So anyway, I think that's what got into me. Wow.
- 18:40Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 18:41Speaker 1: Can we talk about your favorite new documentary, Shiny Happy People?
- 18:45Speaker 1: This is the Duggards. I watched half of it. And
- 18:49Speaker 1: I didn't finish it yet, but I was I was
- 18:52Speaker 1: watching it. Basically, it really goes down the path of
- 18:55Speaker 1: how what's the dad's name? Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob Duggar
- 19:01Speaker 1: kind of just became part of this like super Christian sect.
- 19:08Speaker 1: And Michelle wasn't even that Christian. She had boyfriends. She
- 19:13Speaker 1: kissed without purpose.
- 19:14Speaker 2: Yeah, she had opinions. She had her own life.
- 19:16Speaker 1: Yeah, and then she met him and they fell in
- 19:18Speaker 1: love and then, you know, she was extremely fertile and
- 19:22Speaker 1: they had all these kids and they were struggling. He
- 19:24Speaker 1: had like three jobs before they were discovered by TLC
- 19:29Speaker 1: and then they, at first, before they had the series,
- 19:31Speaker 1: they would just do like a couple specials because people were,
- 19:33Speaker 1: and they graded so well and it was interesting to
- 19:36Speaker 1: see how the learning channel went from actually you learning
- 19:39Speaker 1: how to like how a, you know, groundbreaking surgery was
- 19:42Speaker 1: done to, like, multiple Christian kid families to little people
- 19:49Speaker 1: or extremely overweight people.
- 19:51Speaker 3: Like Honey Boo Boo.
- 19:52Speaker 1: Yeah, it's either super overweight, super tiny, or multiple kids.
- 19:58Speaker 1: And now it's, like, Pimple Popper and, yeah, things like that.
- 20:02Speaker 3: Did you watch these shows, the Duggars?
- 20:05Speaker 1: I never really... You know what? Sometimes I'd watch them,
- 20:08Speaker 1: and I did relate to what they were saying in
- 20:10Speaker 1: the doc, that sometimes there was something, like, comforting in
- 20:15Speaker 1: a way that I was like, oh, my God, you know,
- 20:17Speaker 1: these kids are so nice, and they do all this stuff.
- 20:20Speaker 1: And in larger Catholic families, you were sort of assigned to, like,
- 20:26Speaker 1: raise a littler kid, and that would kind of happen.
- 20:30Speaker 1: But I did think it was bad that like, because
- 20:32Speaker 1: I remember when my one friend, her mom got pregnant
- 20:35Speaker 1: and they, and she ended up having, Liz, Liz, when
- 20:37Speaker 1: Liz's mom got pregnant with the last kid, she always
- 20:41Speaker 1: tells us, it's one of my favorite stories. And so
- 20:43Speaker 1: she said, you know, the mom was only like maybe
- 20:48Speaker 1: 41 or something. But back then they were just like,
- 20:50Speaker 1: you're a disgusting old whore. Like they were just like.
- 20:52Speaker 3: Isn't it creepy to think about?
- 20:54Speaker 1: And so they sat at the table and they were like, well,
- 20:57Speaker 1: we're not going to. redo the floors just yet or something.
- 21:01Speaker 1: And they're like, why? And they're like, well, your mom's
- 21:04Speaker 1: having another baby. And her older sister threw down her
- 21:08Speaker 1: napkin and was like, I am not raising this one
- 21:12Speaker 1: and like ran upstairs and was just like, yes.
- 21:15Speaker 3: And I mean, poor Liz was like, she was talking
- 21:18Speaker 3: about me.
- 21:21Speaker 1: No, but that, I mean, but it is kind of
- 21:23Speaker 1: a thing, but I didn't notice that like when they
- 21:25Speaker 1: had all those kids, but made the girls were the
- 21:29Speaker 1: stars because you'd watch them and they were so wonderful
- 21:32Speaker 1: and they were so efficient.
- 21:33Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 21:34Speaker 1: And then the kids were really disciplined. So the, nobody
- 21:37Speaker 1: was like a wild, bad kid. It also made me
- 21:39Speaker 1: realize you can raise really well-behaved kids if you use
- 21:44Speaker 1: these principles and make them scared as shit. I don't know.
- 21:48Speaker 3: The show, I could see that it was soothing because
- 21:51Speaker 3: even the clips, I was like, I like watching them
- 21:53Speaker 3: all cook.
- 21:53Speaker 1: And make bread.
- 21:54Speaker 3: Yeah, and do gender roles that are totally problematic. And
- 21:58Speaker 3: I did find it soothing. And I'm just like, they're
- 22:00Speaker 3: not annoying kids. I don't have to hear them laughing
- 22:03Speaker 3: and enjoying life. And I liked it. The car is beautiful.
- 22:08Speaker 1: Where did you end up going for it?
- 22:09Speaker 3: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
- 22:12Speaker 3: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
- 22:15Speaker 1: You have to put me in touch.
- 22:16Speaker 3: What's it called?
- 22:17Speaker 1: It's Dune ADL.
- 22:19Speaker 4: Where?
- 22:21Speaker 1: Dune ADL.
- 22:22Speaker 3: There's an accent on the E.
- 22:25Speaker 1: Do you mean.
- 22:25Speaker 3: Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars.
- 22:27Speaker 4: Lift?
- 22:28Speaker 1: Please. Are you going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage.
- 22:31Speaker 5: No.
- 22:32Speaker 1: Dundale Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
- 22:36Speaker 4: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
- 22:39Speaker 4: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
- 22:42Speaker 4: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
- 22:47Speaker 4: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
- 22:49Speaker 3: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
- 22:52Speaker 1: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
- 22:55Speaker 1: filed against me. When your free will was about to
- 22:57Speaker 1: be taken from you, what would you do if it
- 23:00Speaker 1: was given back?
- 23:00Speaker 4: Where did that need come from where you thought that
- 23:03Speaker 4: you had to succeed in order to feel loved? He said,
- 23:06Speaker 4: I have a work dad.
- 23:07Speaker 3: I need a home dad. What happens next?
- 23:09Speaker 1: When I came in, he started crying.
- 23:11Speaker 4: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
- 23:15Speaker 4: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
- 23:18Speaker 4: happens next.
- 23:19Speaker 3: I decided to risk it all.
- 23:20Speaker 1: I realized how valuable every day was.
- 23:22Speaker 2: You're worth the work. Listen, Dara, I'm not going to
- 23:25Speaker 2: pull punches.
- 23:25Speaker 3: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
- 23:28Speaker 4: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
- 23:31Speaker 4: Only one question matters. What happens next?
- 23:42Speaker 1: Then, of course, we get to the horrible molestation and
- 23:46Speaker 1: everything of Josh Duggar. And I didn't know that he was, like,
- 23:49Speaker 1: going to D.C. and all that type of stuff. And
- 23:54Speaker 1: then you said, you wrote in a text, you're like,
- 23:56Speaker 1: the most disturbing is how none of these kids got paid.
- 24:00Speaker 3: I wanted you to finish it because, I mean, the
- 24:02Speaker 3: whole thing, I was riveted. I watched it all twice. Because, again,
- 24:06Speaker 3: I didn't watch this show. I was shocked to see, like.
- 24:10Speaker 3: Shocked and disgusted to see them sitting on with like
- 24:14Speaker 3: Hoda Kotb and announcing their 20th kid. I was like, well,
- 24:17Speaker 3: I'm going to vomit if I imagine that she's had
- 24:19Speaker 3: 20 children. Like it looked so gross. And I'm like, everyone, Oprah,
- 24:24Speaker 3: having these people on, I'm like, you're sitting there with
- 24:27Speaker 3: two people with 20 children and you're not just, something
- 24:30Speaker 3: is so icky about it. So that was totally crazy
- 24:33Speaker 3: going back in this cultural moment in time where we just,
- 24:36Speaker 3: it's not like the people who have eight kids at
- 24:38Speaker 3: once that you're just like, you're fucked. You know, they
- 24:40Speaker 3: have those kids at once.
- 24:42Speaker 6: Well, also, if I may interject, they're also, during the
- 24:46Speaker 6: entire time of that show, they started to reveal them
- 24:50Speaker 6: wearing very compound-like clothing. The dresses with the collars, the
- 24:57Speaker 6: girl's hair had to be long.
- 24:58Speaker 1: Bloomers under the skirt.
- 24:59Speaker 2: Just even looking at her, you can tell.
- 25:02Speaker 3: The mom.
- 25:03Speaker 6: She is being controlled and in a cult.
- 25:05Speaker 2: Like, the hair and the way that they're dressed, the
- 25:08Speaker 2: girls alone... should have been a red flag for.
- 25:11Speaker 6: Certainly anyone who's having them on talk shows.
- 25:14Speaker 3: But the thing about the mom is that the mom
- 25:16Speaker 3: was like the oppressed that became the oppressor.
- 25:19Speaker 1: She was the worst. The worst.
- 25:21Speaker 3: I mean, that's sad. This is like internal sexism, I guess.
- 25:24Speaker 1: So let me ask you something.
- 25:24Speaker 3: I didn't like that mom.
- 25:25Speaker 1: Where are they now? Like, where are they now?
- 25:28Speaker 3: The most disturbing to me, I mean, obviously, all of
- 25:31Speaker 3: the molesting and a lot of that stuff you have
- 25:34Speaker 3: to Google because whatever deal they made with this documentary
- 25:37Speaker 3: or Amazon Prime... They dance around it a little. They
- 25:39Speaker 3: dance around it. So I was deep diving into that,
- 25:41Speaker 3: and it was not good.
- 25:42Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 25:43Speaker 3: It was bad. Like what they found on his computer.
- 25:46Speaker 1: Okay, just tell us that. It's juicy scoop.
- 25:48Speaker 3: Well, it was that, you know, he had already been
- 25:52Speaker 3: molesting the sisters. Right. It had been three sisters and
- 25:54Speaker 3: a babysitter that he was molesting while they were sleeping.
- 25:57Speaker 5: Okay.
- 25:58Speaker 3: The oldest sister, I forget, their names are like Jenna
- 26:00Speaker 3: and like Jesus or whatever. The older one was the
- 26:04Speaker 3: one that was finally like, that got him in trouble
- 26:06Speaker 3: with the dad.
- 26:07Speaker 5: Okay.
- 26:08Speaker 3: The dad took him down. Right. You saw that, right? Yeah.
- 26:11Speaker 1: And then he go, he went to like a place
- 26:13Speaker 1: for like a year or something to work on houses.
- 26:15Speaker 1: And that was supposed to like through the Christian church,
- 26:18Speaker 1: they were part of to like, be like, Hey, you know,
- 26:21Speaker 1: you were curious, but this is not okay. Yeah. And
- 26:24Speaker 1: they told like the cameras, Oh, he's just helping build
- 26:27Speaker 1: these houses in this other place. Okay.
- 26:29Speaker 2: So through a sect of the church, quote unquote, where,
- 26:33Speaker 2: The guy, Bill Gothard or whatever, would literally say to people,
- 26:36Speaker 2: you have to hit your kids.
- 26:38Speaker 6: Girls have to be subservient. The boy is the king
- 26:40Speaker 6: of the place. So we're coming now not just from
- 26:43Speaker 6: a normal Christian thinking.
- 26:45Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 26:45Speaker 2: We're coming from, you know, this is what boys get
- 26:48Speaker 2: to do. This is what girls get to do.
- 26:50Speaker 6: And so if he's molesting, they're just going to try
- 26:53Speaker 6: and shoo him away for a little bit.
- 26:55Speaker 2: Right. Because it's not a big deal.
- 26:56Speaker 1: Right.
- 26:57Speaker 3: Right. Well, I'm not a big fan of religion, but
- 26:59Speaker 3: I do feel bad kind of like generalizing it as
- 27:00Speaker 3: Christian because it is a cult. There's Christian, normal Christian
- 27:04Speaker 3: people out there.
- 27:04Speaker 1: Right.
- 27:04Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to say. It's not normal.
- 27:06Speaker 1: It's his weird thing under the skies teaching.
- 27:09Speaker 3: You saw the one where he paddled the baby. I mean,
- 27:11Speaker 3: the boy on stage, right?
- 27:13Speaker 1: No, I didn't see that.
- 27:14Speaker 3: That guy, Bill Gothard, right?
- 27:15Speaker 2: I don't know if it was him. It was a
- 27:17Speaker 2: different guy who was one of the preachers.
- 27:18Speaker 3: In front of the huge church, Heather, he brings a
- 27:20Speaker 3: boy up there and shows everyone how to spank a
- 27:24Speaker 3: And then he makes the boy hug him and hug
- 27:26Speaker 3: him tighter and hug him again after. It is horrifying.
- 27:30Speaker 2: That is one of the most horrific moments.
- 27:31Speaker 1: And so in this documentary, what do they say about TLC?
- 27:34Speaker 1: When did TLC realize?
- 27:35Speaker 3: So first let me tell you that I was watching
- 27:38Speaker 3: it and I was like this. Josh Duggar, that's the molester.
- 27:40Speaker 3: I was like, you know, if he was a young
- 27:43Speaker 3: person when he did it, I was like, that doesn't
- 27:45Speaker 3: necessarily make him a pedophile. That just makes him a
- 27:47Speaker 3: creep and a molester. Yeah. But that he could now
- 27:50Speaker 3: be molesting adults and not have an interest in younger. Right.
- 27:53Speaker 3: So that's why I needed to Google because I needed
- 27:55Speaker 3: to know, why are you in jail, sir? And what
- 27:57Speaker 3: happened was they found on his app.
- 27:59Speaker 1: So then he gets married. He has a couple of kids.
- 28:02Speaker 1: And then he's working at the car sales place.
- 28:05Speaker 3: He owns it.
- 28:06Speaker 2: Okay.
- 28:06Speaker 3: Of course, because his father lets him own things, but
- 28:09Speaker 3: none of the girls.
- 28:10Speaker 6: Right.
- 28:10Speaker 3: And he has a special hard drive because they have
- 28:13Speaker 3: this app. that you put on your computer for religious
- 28:17Speaker 3: people that is like, you're called like the watcher. That
- 28:22Speaker 3: blocks any religious man from like having like looking at
- 28:25Speaker 3: porn or bad stuff on his computer. And they all
- 28:29Speaker 3: just voluntarily do it. He had a special hard drive,
- 28:32Speaker 3: which they found like over 2,000 like pieces of child pornography,
- 28:38Speaker 3: including those with toddlers. And the person who testified after
- 28:43Speaker 3: seeing it said that he had a violent and unnatural
- 28:46Speaker 3: interest in very young children in court.
- 28:50Speaker 1: And so now he's doing like, what, 12 years or something?
- 28:53Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's appealing it. But so that all happened.
- 28:57Speaker 3: The disgusting father, Jim Bob, wanted to save the show.
- 29:00Speaker 3: He's doing everything he can to save the show. They
- 29:02Speaker 3: make the little girls who are teenagers go on and
- 29:05Speaker 3: be like, we still love him.
- 29:07Speaker 1: But that's before he gets caught with the hard drive.
- 29:10Speaker 1: That's just when it comes out. Because someone discovered the
- 29:14Speaker 1: reports from years back when he was 15.
- 29:16Speaker 4: Yes.
- 29:17Speaker 5: Okay.
- 29:17Speaker 3: And sent it to Oprah, which I just think is great.
- 29:19Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 29:20Speaker 3: Oprah has them on and someone's like, just so you know,
- 29:22Speaker 3: he's a full-on child molester. And then they're like, oh, okay.
- 29:24Speaker 3: So he gets caught. The dad will stop at nothing
- 29:27Speaker 3: to save the show. The dad wants the money. He's
- 29:30Speaker 3: drunk on his own power. He makes the sisters tell
- 29:32Speaker 3: the world that they're fine with it. And they're... They have...
- 29:37Speaker 3: openly said that they were traumatized by that.
- 29:39Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 29:40Speaker 3: Having to do that.
- 29:40Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 29:41Speaker 1: They said that was probably the worst part is having
- 29:42Speaker 1: to like get on the camera and say that.
- 29:44Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 29:45Speaker 3: And she, the oldest one, it's like Jenna and Jessa. Yeah.
- 29:48Speaker 3: So I think it's Jessa's like about to get married.
- 29:51Speaker 3: So she now has to tell her husband, which she
- 29:53Speaker 3: wasn't going to ever going to tell anyone. They were
- 29:55Speaker 3: really ashamed.
- 29:56Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 29:56Speaker 3: And you know, that's the worst part always about this. Right.
- 29:59Speaker 3: The girl feels, and it's just embarrassing and they don't want,
- 30:01Speaker 3: you know, to talk about that stuff. I don't blame them.
- 30:04Speaker 3: And so now she has to tell her husband and
- 30:06Speaker 3: they're getting married and And TLC cancels the show. And
- 30:12Speaker 3: Jim Bob makes a deal with TLC that they will
- 30:14Speaker 3: do a spinoff, Jessa getting married, and then the other one,
- 30:18Speaker 3: Jenna or whatever, getting married. And while she's in between
- 30:23Speaker 3: in her wedding dress, she signs it. And what she
- 30:27Speaker 3: signed was that they don't make any money and he
- 30:30Speaker 3: gets all of the money. And those spinoffs for both
- 30:33Speaker 3: girls where they were in their She didn't know until
- 30:36Speaker 3: she went to go have her first baby where she
- 30:38Speaker 3: was like, I don't want them in here when I'm
- 30:40Speaker 3: having my baby. They're not going to be in here.
- 30:41Speaker 1: And they're like, too bad they are because you signed away.
- 30:44Speaker 3: And she was like, what? Her husband had to ask
- 30:47Speaker 3: Jim Bob for money. And he said, what do you want? Like,
- 30:50Speaker 3: $ 5 an hour? He offered him $ 5 an hour. Maybe
- 30:53Speaker 3: he should go drain Dorit's face and then he could
- 30:56Speaker 3: make $ 100 an hour.
- 30:57Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
- 30:58Speaker 2: I mean, $ 5 an hour, Heather.
- 30:59Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 31:05Speaker 3: You have to watch it. The last episode.
- 31:08Speaker 1: So then after the baby, then they're like, we don't
- 31:10Speaker 1: want to do this. They only did one season. Yeah.
- 31:14Speaker 3: No, it was more than one season and they never
- 31:16Speaker 3: got any money. I swear to God, he probably gave
- 31:17Speaker 3: them $ 200 and they were stuck with TLC. That's why
- 31:20Speaker 3: I'm like, they need to sue TLC. How dare TLC?
- 31:22Speaker 3: They knew they were paying Jim Bob. They knew they
- 31:24Speaker 3: weren't paying those girls. They had no money.
- 31:26Speaker 1: I just wonder if like, I wonder if like in
- 31:29Speaker 1: like a hundred years from now or 50 years from now,
- 31:32Speaker 1: People are going to think reality TV was a form
- 31:35Speaker 1: of modern slavery for people because there's no residuals and
- 31:39Speaker 1: the kids don't get paid, the husbands don't get paid, whatever.
- 31:43Speaker 1: If it's a housewife, those kids have to do their
- 31:46Speaker 1: own deal when they're over 18 or they.
- 31:48Speaker 3: Some kind of strange human trafficking where you have to
- 31:52Speaker 3: get in the tub. Yeah. Oh, you want me and
- 31:54Speaker 3: my husband to do a tub scene? Okay. And they
- 31:57Speaker 3: do it.
- 31:58Speaker 1: So gross. Kissing. They all do it.
- 32:03Speaker 2: You touched my taint.
- 32:04Speaker 3: Yeah, remember that? Did I? Remember Meredith?
- 32:06Speaker 2: So gross.
- 32:08Speaker 3: Oh, God. The last episode is a must because you
- 32:12Speaker 3: really get.
- 32:13Speaker 1: Well, get on it. It's Amazon Prime.
- 32:14Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 32:16Speaker 3: It's one of the most disturbing things I've seen this year.
- 32:19Speaker 1: I didn't know if you guys knew about this, but
- 32:21Speaker 1: a psychologist says that it's a major red flag if
- 32:24Speaker 1: you watch two crime stories to relax. Uh-oh.
- 32:26Speaker 2: I agree.
- 32:27Speaker 1: So if you're relaxing before a Law & Order, I
- 32:30Speaker 1: like Law & Order, but mine always was Dateline. From
- 32:33Speaker 1: the early 2000s, the minute we were able to DVR
- 32:37Speaker 1: stuff at our first house... I would look forward to
- 32:42Speaker 1: waking up for a two o'clock feeding so that I
- 32:44Speaker 1: could watch a dateline about how a young couple, how
- 32:49Speaker 1: a husband kills his wife.
- 32:51Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 32:51Speaker 1: That's a feeding. I love, but see, my whole thing
- 32:55Speaker 1: is I'm not into serial killers. I don't, I didn't
- 32:58Speaker 1: watch Jeffrey Dahmer. I like a one-time crime of passion
- 33:04Speaker 1: with a couple that is medium, like medium class, or
- 33:09Speaker 1: not medium class, um, What do you call it?
- 33:10Speaker 2: Middle class?
- 33:11Speaker 1: Middle class. Middle class. Like, you know, they have a home, whatever.
- 33:14Speaker 1: They're not, like, something relatable to me. Yeah. Like, relatable
- 33:19Speaker 1: murder to my life. Right.
- 33:21Speaker 5: You know?
- 33:21Speaker 1: And then, like, she throws, like, or a couple that's
- 33:24Speaker 1: doing kind of well, and then she starts fucking the dentist,
- 33:28Speaker 1: and the husband finds out and kills her, or she
- 33:30Speaker 1: has the husband kill, I don't know. And then I'm like, oh,
- 33:33Speaker 1: my God. Like, you had this fabulous life, and you
- 33:36Speaker 1: threw it all away for some fresh dick.
- 33:39Speaker 4: Yep.
- 33:40Speaker 1: That type of stuff is extremely soothing to me.
- 33:43Speaker 3: But Dateline never solves.
- 33:44Speaker 1: And a real treat.
- 33:45Speaker 3: Do you care about that?
- 33:46Speaker 1: Yes, I do.
- 33:47Speaker 3: Rarely.
- 33:47Speaker 1: Well, they solve to the point of the prosecutor won
- 33:50Speaker 1: or not. Oh, well, I should say this. Sometimes they do.
- 33:52Speaker 3: My favorite is people going missing. And they never solve those.
- 33:56Speaker 1: Oh, you like a going missing.
- 33:57Speaker 3: I love a young, attractive girl that goes missing. And
- 34:01Speaker 3: it's what I watch when I'm depressed. And it's gotten
- 34:04Speaker 3: to me mentally. And they're right.
- 34:06Speaker 2: I was.
- 34:07Speaker 3: I saw this one.
- 34:08Speaker 1: What's your favorite going missing attractive girl?
- 34:11Speaker 3: Meaning what?
- 34:12Speaker 1: Like, well, my favorite.
- 34:13Speaker 3: Which one going missing?
- 34:14Speaker 1: My favorite, though she was found. But my favorite, because
- 34:16Speaker 1: I remember how much time it got. My favorite was
- 34:19Speaker 1: a Raiderette that went to go do a modeling gig
- 34:23Speaker 1: where she was driving a car. And the guy killed her.
- 34:27Speaker 1: But she went missing for like a month. And because
- 34:30Speaker 1: she was pretty blonde Raiderette from like the Inland Valley.
- 34:35Speaker 1: I swear to God, they had every one of her
- 34:37Speaker 1: friends on hard copy every night talking about her. And
- 34:41Speaker 1: I was just like, okay, so there was that.
- 34:44Speaker 3: My favorite is by far, what's her face? The Mormon.
- 34:48Speaker 3: Because she was found.
- 34:49Speaker 1: She was found. But you said you like a missing
- 34:51Speaker 1: girl that's never found.
- 34:52Speaker 3: No, I didn't say they'd never be found. I want
- 34:54Speaker 3: them to be found.
- 34:55Speaker 1: You want them to be found.
- 34:56Speaker 3: But there's an example of why it got to me psychologically.
- 34:59Speaker 3: I started watching this one where they specialize in like
- 35:02Speaker 3: where they're caught on like, like closed caption cameras yeah
- 35:06Speaker 3: so there's like a video it's so disturbing and there's
- 35:09Speaker 3: this one girl who's at target at 3 p.m she
- 35:13Speaker 3: just graduated high school she runs to target to get
- 35:16Speaker 3: her stupid boyfriend a gift for their one month anniversary
- 35:19Speaker 3: or something it's that dumb and she's in the target
- 35:22Speaker 3: parking lot filled with cars and someone pushes her into
- 35:25Speaker 3: her car and just takes her, and instead of her
- 35:29Speaker 3: fighting him off, because, you know, you only learn to
- 35:31Speaker 3: do that after you watch hundreds of shows like this,
- 35:33Speaker 3: where I'm like, don't get in the car, don't get
- 35:34Speaker 3: in the car. And now I was scared walking through
- 35:37Speaker 3: the Grove, literally, I was scared. I was like, I
- 35:39Speaker 3: shouldn't go down there, because it's dark, and someone might
- 35:42Speaker 3: want an older woman.
- 35:43Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 35:44Speaker 3: I mean, it makes you start getting majorly paranoid, these shows.
- 35:49Speaker 3: Haven't you noticed, or no? Don't you think Peter's coming
- 35:51Speaker 3: for you?
- 35:51Speaker 1: No, so they say.
- 35:54Speaker 4: That.
- 35:55Speaker 1: He says, some of us grew up with high-stress situations,
- 35:57Speaker 1: so people mistake peace for boring. To come home to yourself,
- 36:01Speaker 1: you have to learn into the discomfort. Lean into the discomfort. Yeah,
- 36:05Speaker 1: lean into the discomfort. And then another person says, it
- 36:07Speaker 1: distracts me from the pain I'm feeling in my life.
- 36:09Speaker 1: I don't like it. It just redirects my anger.
- 36:14Speaker 3: It does really distract. Yeah. But then it comes back.
- 36:17Speaker 3: That's the thing.
- 36:18Speaker 1: Right.
- 36:19Speaker 3: You don't ever get scared. Peter's coming down the hall
- 36:21Speaker 3: to like just off you.
- 36:22Speaker 1: No, I do. After I watch anything like a juicy,
- 36:26Speaker 1: scary thing or like a more like a movie, I
- 36:30Speaker 1: do feel like I'm in the movie for like a
- 36:31Speaker 1: couple hours after. Yeah. Where I am like nervous going
- 36:34Speaker 1: to the bathroom and stuff like that. But not like
- 36:36Speaker 1: a Dateline. Dateline, I just, the Keith Morrison, Keith Morrison's
- 36:40Speaker 1: voice is just. So soothing.
- 36:43Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 36:43Speaker 1: And I just like the way they do it. And
- 36:45Speaker 1: even though I know that if they show the person
- 36:48Speaker 1: talking about their wife who's went missing and they only
- 36:51Speaker 1: show it this tight of a, like right under the
- 36:55Speaker 1: chin around the head, I know it's because they're in
- 36:58Speaker 1: a fucking prison and they're wearing.
- 37:00Speaker 3: An orange outfit.
- 37:01Speaker 1: But I have interviewed the Dateline guys and they go,
- 37:05Speaker 1: if the prison will allow it, We do bring like
- 37:08Speaker 1: a sweater and stuff so that it can go a
- 37:11Speaker 1: little lower. And so when we're interviewing them, you're not
- 37:13Speaker 1: totally you don't totally know that the husband who's speaking
- 37:16Speaker 1: so lovingly about his wife because they don't you know,
- 37:20Speaker 1: you're still is it him? Probably not. Right. Because she
- 37:23Speaker 1: did have a lover and she had a best friend
- 37:25Speaker 1: who hated her. Like, then you're kind of like.
- 37:27Speaker 3: Yeah, you're building things.
- 37:28Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 37:28Speaker 3: You're like, excuse me, I'm Steve. Okay, don't talk about
- 37:31Speaker 3: how you hate her yet. Pretend you love her still. Yeah. Okay, action.
- 37:33Speaker 1: Yes, yes. It's like that. And then they do the
- 37:35Speaker 1: wider thing at the end, and you see him, he's
- 37:37Speaker 1: in the prison, and he has just the sweater that
- 37:39Speaker 1: Keith brought from his closet in Laguna Beach, and just
- 37:42Speaker 1: like some orange pants left over. And you're like, yeah,
- 37:45Speaker 1: I don't want the surprise. Don't ruin it for me. But,
- 37:48Speaker 1: I mean, I pretty much, you know.
- 37:49Speaker 3: You've probably gotten real good at figuring it out.
- 37:51Speaker 1: Yeah, but I still... It's still comfort.
- 37:54Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 37:55Speaker 3: We're all the way to if there's no justice, don't even.
- 37:58Speaker 3: There was one called like three shallow graves or four
- 38:01Speaker 3: shallow graves or something. And it was like somebody recommended it.
- 38:04Speaker 3: It was eight episodes too long.
- 38:06Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
- 38:07Speaker 3: It should have been an hour.
- 38:08Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 38:08Speaker 3: We spent eight hours on it. It was never solved.
- 38:10Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not going to commit that kind of time.
- 38:13Speaker 3: There's no justice at the end.
- 38:14Speaker 1: No justice.
- 38:15Speaker 2: I need justice.
- 38:15Speaker 1: The other thing is what happens with like crime podcasts
- 38:18Speaker 1: and stuff. I have just go and I just wiki it.
- 38:21Speaker 1: And then I'm like, okay, I know. But I still
- 38:23Speaker 1: can enjoy it if it's done right. I still can
- 38:26Speaker 1: enjoy it.
- 38:26Speaker 2: I only want revenge.
- 38:28Speaker 1: Okay, Adele has, she says that she has a fungal
- 38:34Speaker 1: infection from sweating her Spanx on stage at Caesars. Here's
- 38:39Speaker 1: the thing. Adele, much like Celine, they really like to
- 38:44Speaker 1: crack some jokes in between the songs. And, you know,
- 38:48Speaker 1: They love it. They probably, just like comedians want to
- 38:51Speaker 1: be singers, some singers, I think, want to be comedians.
- 38:54Speaker 1: And she just sometimes, you know, I don't think every
- 38:56Speaker 1: bit hits. So she's like, you know, so basically I
- 39:01Speaker 1: have to sit in my own sweat. She says, so
- 39:05Speaker 1: it looks like I'm a little athlete. I have to
- 39:07Speaker 1: squirt the jock itch stuff on myself, and I don't
- 39:10Speaker 1: know what the fuck I just told you that hurt.
- 39:13Speaker 1: So anyway, and then she goes, at my age, I'm
- 39:16Speaker 1: starting to get bad knees. You can relate to that.
- 39:18Speaker 2: I sure can. And the jock itch. Yep, got that too.
- 39:21Speaker 1: I have a very bad sciatic in my left leg,
- 39:24Speaker 1: and my L5 disc is not fucking there anymore. It's
- 39:27Speaker 1: worn away. I want to also say, Noah. one wants
- 39:30Speaker 1: to hear about your sciatic nerves.
- 39:32Speaker 3: No.
- 39:33Speaker 1: Or your L5.
- 39:33Speaker 2: At dinner.
- 39:34Speaker 1: No. At dinner or when they're paying to see you sing.
- 39:38Speaker 2: No, how's your chicken parm?
- 39:39Speaker 4: I'd rather.
- 39:39Speaker 2: Oh, my jock itch is just... Yeah. You know, my L5.
- 39:43Speaker 1: Adele, we want to hear you sing Rolling in the Deep,
- 39:45Speaker 1: not Itching Your Spanx.
- 39:48Speaker 3: I can say definitively, like, with concerts, I don't really
- 39:50Speaker 3: need any bits. I like a talking, I guess.
- 39:54Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
- 39:54Speaker 3: But Britney was just like, hey, y'all, and then was
- 39:57Speaker 3: just going. It's like, and her extensions were falling out,
- 40:00Speaker 3: and it was heaven.
- 40:01Speaker 1: Heaven, yeah.
- 40:01Speaker 3: We don't need some schtick.
- 40:03Speaker 1: Nope, no.
- 40:04Speaker 5: Right?
- 40:04Speaker 1: We don't need a tight five in between two songs.
- 40:06Speaker 3: No, no.
- 40:07Speaker 1: But, I mean, I think she's kind of known for that,
- 40:09Speaker 1: but I think this article should be a warning to
- 40:12Speaker 1: her that, you know what? Do the show a little shorter.
- 40:16Speaker 1: Just get to the songs. The Caesars will be happier
- 40:19Speaker 1: that the people are out spending money in the casino.
- 40:22Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you should.
- 40:22Speaker 1: We don't need to see your tight five about your
- 40:25Speaker 1: yeast infection from your Spanx.
- 40:27Speaker 4: No.
- 40:27Speaker 2: What you should focus on is the shitty merch that
- 40:29Speaker 2: you sold.
- 40:30Speaker 1: What kind of merch does she have?
- 40:31Speaker 2: How about that?
- 40:31Speaker 1: Does she have bad merch?
- 40:32Speaker 3: It wasn't 100%... Excuse me, but by the way, this
- 40:35Speaker 3: merch you're wearing right now is... It looks, number one,
- 40:38Speaker 3: so soft and comfortable.
- 40:39Speaker 1: By the way, I am the first one to say
- 40:40Speaker 1: I'm a fucking delight and I'm a delight. And this
- 40:42Speaker 1: shirt is from like five years ago and it's still available.
- 40:45Speaker 1: Different shirts are available. On my merch, no. There's so
- 40:48Speaker 1: many people that have I'm a fucking delight on there.
- 40:51Speaker 1: So if you're going to buy that saying, please go
- 40:54Speaker 1: to HeatherMcDone.net anyway.
- 40:55Speaker 3: We've got to trademark it. It's too late now. Well,
- 40:58Speaker 3: I love that merch. Adele's was.
- 41:01Speaker 2: We were.
- 41:02Speaker 3: almost blackout drunk when we saw her. Good for you.
- 41:05Speaker 2: As we do.
- 41:06Speaker 3: And Julie, when she's blackout drunk, spends money. She has
- 41:09Speaker 3: impulse control problems. You know, three sweatshirts that were not
- 41:13Speaker 3: 100% cotton. They were synthetic. I'm surprised they didn't catch
- 41:16Speaker 3: fire when she smoked a cigarette later. Forgot about it
- 41:18Speaker 3: because she burned her own finger. They were that synthetic.
- 41:20Speaker 2: That's right, yeah.
- 41:21Speaker 3: I mean, but the concert was great.
- 41:23Speaker 1: Okay. Amazing.
- 41:24Speaker 3: But for as expensive as the concert was?
- 41:26Speaker 6: Those, I mean, we're talking cheap ass t-shirts and sweatshirts.
- 41:30Speaker 2: Like horrendous.
- 41:32Speaker 1: Itchy. Itchy.
- 41:34Speaker 2: Like this. I put on, I was just going to
- 41:35Speaker 2: give it.
- 41:35Speaker 3: That's what gave her the jock itch.
- 41:37Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 41:37Speaker 3: Her own merch.
- 41:37Speaker 2: That's right. Exactly.
- 41:39Speaker 1: You're right.
- 41:39Speaker 6: I tried just the other day before I threw it
- 41:41Speaker 6: in the garbage. I bought a hoodie, an Adele hoodie.
- 41:45Speaker 6: I put it on over a button-down shirt. It then
- 41:47Speaker 6: got hot, and I took it off.
- 41:49Speaker 2: My entire shirt was black. Oh, from the fuzzies, yeah.
- 41:54Speaker 3: Yeah, and that'll caught your.
- 41:55Speaker 2: I threw it in the garbage.
- 41:56Speaker 3: That's not 100% cotton.
- 41:58Speaker 2: Garbage.
- 41:58Speaker 1: Wow, you heard it here first, you guys. This is Marston101.
- 42:04Speaker 1: He is Hugh Hefner's son. And he's bisexual, and he's
- 42:12Speaker 1: married to a woman, and he has an OnlyFans account.
- 42:16Speaker 1: Where he caters to men and women? And I also
- 42:18Speaker 1: want to say, this is his apartment. I mean, not great.
- 42:23Speaker 1: I mean, where is his money? Where is his money
- 42:26Speaker 1: from Hugh?
- 42:26Speaker 3: I feel like that lamp, though, and that piece of
- 42:28Speaker 3: furniture could be from the Playboy Mansion. Don't they look
- 42:31Speaker 3: 70s and authentic?
- 42:33Speaker 1: He wrote a book. Anyway, here he is. His wife's
- 42:39Speaker 1: not thrilled about it.
- 42:40Speaker 5: Why?
- 42:40Speaker 6: This person loves women. They love women. They love boobs
- 42:45Speaker 6: and stuff, the vagina. All three of these people absolutely
- 42:49Speaker 6: know what to do with a lady.
- 42:50Speaker 1: This is my favorite one.
- 42:52Speaker 2: Oh, so straight. So bisexual.
- 42:55Speaker 1: He had some bats on the wall and he says
- 42:57Speaker 1: Halloween time. And he's very tall and thin and he
- 43:00Speaker 1: looks a lot like you.
- 43:01Speaker 3: He almost looks like a bat as well.
- 43:03Speaker 2: I just also just.
- 43:04Speaker 3: He might turn into a bat and fly away.
- 43:07Speaker 1: His brother is in politics. His brother was running for
- 43:10Speaker 1: some office in L.A. and he didn't get it. And
- 43:13Speaker 1: then he has an OnlyFans account. And it's just like
- 43:16Speaker 1: there's something. I don't know.
- 43:18Speaker 3: I mean, it's on brand.
- 43:19Speaker 1: I mean, at least he's not exploiting women.
- 43:22Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 43:24Speaker 1: And not paying them for their work after. That was
- 43:26Speaker 1: part of the doc about how these girls would sign
- 43:29Speaker 1: for a photo shoot and then these photos would be
- 43:31Speaker 1: used on the internet 10 years later when the internet
- 43:33Speaker 1: became a thing and they never got paid for it.
- 43:35Speaker 1: So at least he's just exploiting himself.
- 43:38Speaker 2: That's great.
- 43:39Speaker 1: And his veins.
- 43:41Speaker 3: Carrying on the porny tradition that his father began. Yeah.
- 43:44Speaker 1: Yeah. He also, let's see, he is going to save
- 43:48Speaker 1: his earnings and to be able to buy a Pokemon
- 43:52Speaker 1: trophy card. I'm not kidding.
- 43:54Speaker 3: What's a Poke, how much?
- 43:55Speaker 1: A Pokemon trophy card. It costs up to six figures,
- 43:59Speaker 1: but that is what he's saving. So you marry a guy,
- 44:02Speaker 1: you think he's worth so much because he's Hugh Hefner's son.
- 44:05Speaker 1: You find out he's bi, you're like, okay. You're living
- 44:08Speaker 1: in this apartment and he's like, but I'm going to
- 44:10Speaker 1: make the money being on OnlyFans. You're like, all right.
- 44:13Speaker 1: But once I get enough money, it's to buy a
- 44:15Speaker 1: Pokemon card.
- 44:16Speaker 3: That's when you go, I gotta go.
- 44:18Speaker 1: You've got to go.
- 44:19Speaker 3: That's the deal breaker there.
- 44:21Speaker 1: He offers a free monthly subscription, which means he only
- 44:26Speaker 1: makes money from charging for the premium content. Anyways, Profile
- 44:32Speaker 1: only has 87 photos and 39 videos. That's kind of
- 44:35Speaker 1: a lot.
- 44:36Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems like a lot.
- 44:37Speaker 3: We're not sure how OnlyFans works. what we only thing
- 44:41Speaker 3: we really know is what we learned from Larsa Pippen
- 44:43Speaker 3: on housewives of Miami.
- 44:45Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 44:45Speaker 3: But there's like basically where it can be like Patreon,
- 44:48Speaker 3: a monthly subscription, or you make money for like personally
- 44:51Speaker 3: sending messages to people. So it's kind of like a cameo.
- 44:55Speaker 1: His wife's not thrilled about it, but I just helped
- 44:57Speaker 1: his account by talking about it because yeah, her name's
- 45:01Speaker 1: Anna and she's like, I'd rather him not do it.
- 45:04Speaker 1: But he said, she's out for me to pursue my dream.
- 45:07Speaker 1: But in this article and out, he didn't really get
- 45:09Speaker 1: into being bi that much. I was like, who are
- 45:12Speaker 1: you being bi with?
- 45:13Speaker 2: Right.
- 45:13Speaker 3: And is the content on the OnlyFans, which it indicates
- 45:18Speaker 3: that he's bisexual.
- 45:19Speaker 1: I think that's the only people that would be looking
- 45:21Speaker 1: at it. I don't think a straight woman is looking
- 45:24Speaker 1: at this.
- 45:24Speaker 2: Like, oh, I'm going to watch him J-O all over
- 45:26Speaker 2: that coffee table.
- 45:27Speaker 1: Pokemon card.
- 45:28Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope he gets his Pokemon card.
- 45:30Speaker 3: It's so hot.
- 45:31Speaker 2: He's so veiny. I love that veiny arm, too.
- 45:33Speaker 5: Ugh.
- 45:34Speaker 3: Vascular.
- 45:35Speaker 2: Very vascular. Very vascular.
- 45:37Speaker 1: Speaking of creeps, Andrew Tate has been charged with rape
- 45:41Speaker 1: and human trafficking in Romania. This has been going for
- 45:44Speaker 1: a while. Andrew and his brother Tristan are charged of rape,
- 45:49Speaker 1: human trafficking, and forming a criminal group aimed at sexually
- 45:52Speaker 1: exploiting women. The charges are that they manipulated seven victims
- 45:56Speaker 1: into believing they were entering into legitimate romantic relationships only
- 46:00Speaker 1: to force them into performing crimes pornographic acts for distribution
- 46:04Speaker 1: on social media.
- 46:06Speaker 3: Slow clap for justice.
- 46:07Speaker 1: I mean, this will be very interesting to see for
- 46:10Speaker 1: anybody that followed him and his whole thing of like,
- 46:15Speaker 1: you know, getting guys to be alpha males and all
- 46:18Speaker 1: that stuff. So anyway, anyway, his, his attorneys say they're innocent.
- 46:24Speaker 1: I don't know what happens in Romania. If that's a
- 46:27Speaker 1: worse situation.
- 46:28Speaker 2: Well, fingers crossed. I can tell you what I hope
- 46:30Speaker 2: happens in Romania.
- 46:31Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 46:32Speaker 3: Is that where he's going to jail? Because I don't
- 46:33Speaker 3: know how tight they're... Well.
- 46:34Speaker 1: That's where he's been detained, and they charged him with
- 46:37Speaker 1: it now. So that is where it, I guess, will
- 46:40Speaker 1: be handled, not here.
- 46:41Speaker 3: I don't even know how stringent, like, our laws on
- 46:44Speaker 3: that are. We want, like.
- 46:46Speaker 1: Ugh.
- 46:46Speaker 3: We just want the worst for him.
- 46:48Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was always an act. I
- 46:52Speaker 1: thought him being that misogynistic was almost like... And Ann
- 46:57Speaker 1: Coulter is a bit of an act.
- 46:59Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 46:59Speaker 1: To be, like... oh my God, I can't believe it.
- 47:02Speaker 1: You know? So I was like, but I mean, granted
- 47:06Speaker 1: people followed what he said, but I was like, oh,
- 47:08Speaker 1: come on, relax. Like he's just getting, he's just doing
- 47:11Speaker 1: this because people are paying to be part of his
- 47:13Speaker 1: stupid group, which was like $ 40 a month to learn
- 47:16Speaker 1: how to be a masculine dude and have chicks like you.
- 47:19Speaker 3: And is that where he was putting this porny content?
- 47:24Speaker 1: I don't know what the porny, I don't understand the
- 47:25Speaker 1: porny content stuff. Like I, all I knew it was,
- 47:29Speaker 1: his clips or sometimes he would just talk about stuff.
- 47:31Speaker 1: And sometimes I was like, all right, it's kind of gross,
- 47:33Speaker 1: but it's kind of a, it's like entertainment. I didn't
- 47:35Speaker 1: really think, I thought he tapped into a world of like,
- 47:40Speaker 1: of like, you know, weird nerdy guys that, you know,
- 47:44Speaker 1: didn't know how to get a check and they were
- 47:48Speaker 1: dumb enough to pay for it. And I was like,
- 47:50Speaker 1: I kind of just thought it was like a freedom
- 47:52Speaker 1: of speech, whatever. It's not my bag. But then I realized, no, no, no,
- 47:56Speaker 1: there's all this really dark shit in which these girls were.
- 48:00Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens.
- 48:01Speaker 3: Well, I've been to Romania and Bulgaria. And one thing,
- 48:04Speaker 3: my one thing from being there that struck me as
- 48:07Speaker 3: so crazy is that on like, I like to watch
- 48:09Speaker 3: like European MTV, no matter what country I'm in. And
- 48:12Speaker 3: every commercial on MTV was a warning for young girls
- 48:17Speaker 3: to never give their license to anyone. It was always
- 48:20Speaker 3: about human trafficking.
- 48:21Speaker 4: Wow.
- 48:22Speaker 3: So that is like the mecca of. So the fact
- 48:24Speaker 3: that he was there, it was there to get young,
- 48:27Speaker 3: vulnerable girls who believe that they need jobs. They believe
- 48:29Speaker 3: they're going to get taken somewhere, whatever they're lied to.
- 48:33Speaker 3: And that's why he was there.
- 48:35Speaker 1: Okay, this is.
- 48:38Speaker 3: Holy Ozempic. She better get ready to get with a lady.
- 48:43Speaker 1: Ozempic camel toe. Yeah. That might be... What if that
- 48:47Speaker 1: is also a result of Ozempic? Your rings fell off.
- 48:51Speaker 1: But your camel toe grows.
- 48:53Speaker 2: And you go blind and don't see it? Also? Did you?
- 48:58Speaker 5: I mean.
- 48:58Speaker 1: This is Caroline Stansbury from Ladies of London. Most recently,
- 49:05Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Dubai. She's a very pretty woman. She's
- 49:10Speaker 1: always been thin, but I watched the show. She clearly
- 49:12Speaker 1: has lost 30 pounds.
- 49:14Speaker 3: Yes. She's in a.
- 49:16Speaker 1: Jumpsuit with her young husband. And the camel toe situation
- 49:23Speaker 1: is so bad. And that is why, listen, I have
- 49:28Speaker 1: a pair of Lululemons that are on its last thread.
- 49:32Speaker 1: And I won't replace them because Lululemon... stopped making the
- 49:37Speaker 1: kind that I like, which is the seam is like
- 49:40Speaker 1: a curve around the leg, not up the badge. Now
- 49:46Speaker 1: every Lululemon is up the thing. Anybody that has a
- 49:50Speaker 1: line of leggings that is not a split up the crotch,
- 49:55Speaker 1: send them to me and I'll promote them because I
- 49:58Speaker 1: being that I'm tall, And I'm super sensitive to being
- 50:02Speaker 1: called to have a camel toe. When I was on
- 50:04Speaker 1: Chelsea lately, Chelsea would refer to my camel toe a lot,
- 50:07Speaker 1: which I never even had. And then I would go
- 50:10Speaker 1: do stand-up, and at the end of the show, someone
- 50:12Speaker 1: would be like, I don't think you have a camel toe.
- 50:14Speaker 1: I'm like, thanks for listening to my act for an
- 50:15Speaker 1: hour and a half. Just a camel toe. Like, I
- 50:17Speaker 1: am just very... And there were these little things that
- 50:20Speaker 1: you could buy, like a little thing that you could... Yeah,
- 50:22Speaker 1: like a blocker. Like a blocker to not make... Anyway.
- 50:25Speaker 1: I just.
- 50:26Speaker 3: Can I say I'm in a jumpsuit now?
- 50:28Speaker 1: And I.
- 50:31Speaker 3: I, um, listen, the only, um, like no, there's no
- 50:36Speaker 3: camel toe in that jumpsuit by the way. No, but
- 50:38Speaker 3: the only underwear I own, they're all black. So the
- 50:42Speaker 3: only underwear I have that aren't black are thongs. I
- 50:45Speaker 3: don't like, like to prefer to wear a thong and
- 50:48Speaker 3: it's a very small one. This is white. I didn't
- 50:51Speaker 3: want to chance anything. I'm coming out of my vagina
- 50:53Speaker 3: and getting onto this white jumpsuit when we parked here.
- 50:56Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 50:57Speaker 3: Um, There's a target and also many can be many
- 51:01Speaker 3: people relaxing. Let's say around on the street area.
- 51:05Speaker 1: Okay.
- 51:05Speaker 3: Julie was on her side of the, you know what
- 51:07Speaker 3: I mean?
- 51:08Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 51:08Speaker 3: Julie was on her side of her truck. I turned
- 51:11Speaker 3: toward the target. I unzipped, my thong was so far
- 51:15Speaker 3: up my vagina that it felt and looked like that inside.
- 51:19Speaker 3: You couldn't see it, but that's what it felt like.
- 51:21Speaker 3: I unzipped this all the way down, stuck my hand,
- 51:23Speaker 3: it's open, I stuck my hand inside, pulled it out,
- 51:26Speaker 3: make eye contact with a woman at Target. And I said,
- 51:28Speaker 3: I'm really sorry. And pulled my hand out of my
- 51:31Speaker 3: own crotch and zipped this all the way back up
- 51:33Speaker 3: and then turned around to Julie.
- 51:34Speaker 1: And then did someone give you $ 5?
- 51:36Speaker 3: I mean, honestly.
- 51:36Speaker 5: Okay.
- 51:39Speaker 1: Or half of their sandwich.
- 51:40Speaker 3: The people relaxing on the street were like, woo, thank you.
- 51:43Speaker 3: I mean, it happens. You can't.
- 51:46Speaker 2: And the lady in Target's like, I'm coming to this
- 51:48Speaker 2: Target every day.
- 51:49Speaker 1: I just have to say the comments are the best part. Okay.
- 51:53Speaker 1: Oh boy, that body set is not flattering. Sorry. So
- 51:55Speaker 1: nobody was going to tell her.
- 51:57Speaker 2: That's effed up.
- 51:57Speaker 1: Lips don't lie. Modeling the latest in camel toe couture.
- 52:02Speaker 1: It's a look.
- 52:03Speaker 3: Is this on her own?
- 52:04Speaker 5: Yes.
- 52:04Speaker 3: Yes. And she's just thinking everyone's going to be like,
- 52:07Speaker 3: you look great. But everyone's like, girl.
- 52:10Speaker 1: No, it was Real Housewives of Dubai. But they must
- 52:13Speaker 1: have grabbed it from hers. Real Housewives of Bravo must
- 52:16Speaker 1: have grabbed it from Caroline's from Dubai. But clearly she,
- 52:19Speaker 1: you know, filmed it.
- 52:21Speaker 3: I can say I can attest to the Lululemon thing.
- 52:23Speaker 3: I only wear sweatshirts that cover it now because I
- 52:27Speaker 3: just can't.
- 52:28Speaker 1: Well, the summer is a good time because a lot
- 52:31Speaker 1: of people are doing naked bikinis. They're taking over sexy
- 52:34Speaker 1: summer clothes. hot trend. So they, it's like clear. And
- 52:37Speaker 1: then you just like cover, but listen, there's something more
- 52:42Speaker 1: exciting for you.
- 52:43Speaker 2: Okay.
- 52:45Speaker 1: Women are proudly flaunting their pubic hair in bikinis at
- 52:49Speaker 1: the beach.
- 52:49Speaker 3: No, like on the side or the top or either.
- 52:52Speaker 1: No, that you put on your bikini. You have not
- 52:55Speaker 1: shaved or waxed in a year and you don't do,
- 53:00Speaker 1: and you don't trim it or anything. You show it.
- 53:03Speaker 1: And they say, um, It's your personal choice to shave, wax,
- 53:07Speaker 1: or grow your body hair. There's no wrong way for
- 53:09Speaker 1: your body to look. You don't have to be hairless
- 53:12Speaker 1: to wear a bikini, they're saying. Other people are saying,
- 53:15Speaker 1: you know, no, you should. And they said removing your
- 53:17Speaker 1: hair down there is something doctors do not recommend because
- 53:20Speaker 1: it actually functions as a barrier to protect from infection.
- 53:23Speaker 3: I guess that's why I always get infections. Because I'm
- 53:28Speaker 3: full bald.
- 53:29Speaker 1: So get ready once the sun comes out. It's going
- 53:32Speaker 1: to be full Bush July.
- 53:35Speaker 3: We've seen you in a tiny bikini. Just as pride ends,
- 53:37Speaker 3: Bush July starts.
- 53:39Speaker 2: Wow.
- 53:39Speaker 1: Bush July.
- 53:40Speaker 3: Well, what are you going to do? Because we've seen
- 53:41Speaker 3: you in a tiny bikini and I didn't see one pube.
- 53:44Speaker 1: I am going to continue to shave and trim all
- 53:49Speaker 1: around the pubes.
- 53:50Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 53:51Speaker 1: I will never be this person.
- 53:53Speaker 2: Huh? What did you say?
- 53:55Speaker 3: She didn't even have one pop out.
- 53:57Speaker 2: Not even one single pube.
- 53:59Speaker 1: No.
- 53:59Speaker 5: No.
- 54:00Speaker 2: I mean, I'm.
- 54:02Speaker 6: I watched this thing the other day on YouTube about,
- 54:04Speaker 6: and listen, let me just say this. Everybody can do
- 54:07Speaker 6: what they want. Everybody should do what they want. If
- 54:09Speaker 6: you like furry and hairy, good. That's not for me.
- 54:14Speaker 6: I don't like it on my own body. If I
- 54:16Speaker 6: could be hairless, I would.
- 54:17Speaker 1: I will say, I think those Tuckett-friendly bathing suits would
- 54:21Speaker 1: probably be good for someone that doesn't want to shave.
- 54:24Speaker 1: I'm just saying. It's a wider vagina moment for whoever.
- 54:29Speaker 3: Oh, I see.
- 54:29Speaker 1: Man, woman, person.
- 54:31Speaker 6: Oh, right.
- 54:31Speaker 2: Because you're getting, Oh, interesting. I might look into that.
- 54:34Speaker 3: You can tuck your bush.
- 54:35Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 54:36Speaker 3: Just tuck it in there. Okay.
- 54:37Speaker 1: You can either tuck your balls or your bush. Doesn't matter.
- 54:39Speaker 3: Some bushes really do puff out.
- 54:40Speaker 1: Whatever people want.
- 54:42Speaker 2: Whatever people want.
- 54:43Speaker 1: It's pride.
- 54:43Speaker 3: I mean, I can tuck my long lips.
- 54:47Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 54:47Speaker 3: Just tuck your lips back.
- 54:48Speaker 1: These lips don't lie.
- 54:49Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 54:50Speaker 3: Caroline Stansbury could get one.
- 54:52Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 54:52Speaker 6: Uh, there was this little show I watched on YouTube.
- 54:55Speaker 6: That's like a show about like, let's just like this,
- 54:57Speaker 6: like people's different bodies and stuff and all, it's all
- 54:59Speaker 6: great and whatever.
- 55:00Speaker 2: And there was a woman who was doing, like, hair pride.
- 55:02Speaker 2: And she was super hairy.
- 55:04Speaker 1: Like, everywhere.
- 55:05Speaker 6: And she's decided she does not want to live in
- 55:08Speaker 6: shame or in fear anymore. And so she's not shaving anything.
- 55:11Speaker 3: Okay.
- 55:12Speaker 2: And she's letting all of it out. And dating.
- 55:15Speaker 1: Guys.
- 55:16Speaker 3: So.
- 55:16Speaker 2: And then you find... And you watch her on.
- 55:18Speaker 1: So she has, like, a stash?
- 55:20Speaker 2: She actually didn't have a facial hair.
- 55:22Speaker 1: She had it on her chest. Full pits.
- 55:24Speaker 2: Full pits. Full chest. Like, here. Like, coming out.
- 55:26Speaker 1: Here.
- 55:27Speaker 3: I know. I knew Heather didn't understand. She's growing... hair
- 55:30Speaker 3: in places that some people can't grow it.
- 55:32Speaker 2: I mean, that's, yeah, exactly. Which I thought was interesting
- 55:34Speaker 2: because I could have a full beard.
- 55:36Speaker 3: Some of us just can't do that.
- 55:37Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 55:38Speaker 4: Right.
- 55:38Speaker 6: But I've never grown, like I haven't had like a
- 55:40Speaker 6: chest hair, even though women love it.
- 55:43Speaker 2: I can't seem to grow it. So, uh, but she
- 55:46Speaker 2: had no facial hair, really not a beard, but everything
- 55:50Speaker 2: else was really hairy.
- 55:52Speaker 5: Wow.
- 55:53Speaker 6: And I just was like, you know, that there's a brave,
- 55:55Speaker 6: it's bravery right there. Cause I don't know. I, I,
- 55:59Speaker 6: I couldn't do it or deal with it.
- 56:01Speaker 5: No.
- 56:01Speaker 2: Just to be honest.
- 56:02Speaker 3: This is another thing to maintain.
- 56:06Speaker 1: Well, it's happening. I just want to tell you guys that. Okay,
- 56:09Speaker 1: here's a study show that happy couples are less likely
- 56:13Speaker 1: to post about their partners on social media and those
- 56:16Speaker 1: who post more often tend to feel insecure about the relationships. Well,
- 56:19Speaker 1: we certainly know that. Just look at Croy and Kim Berman.
- 56:24Speaker 1: Divorce from hell from hell. They hate each other. They're
- 56:29Speaker 1: both asking for full custody. They're both saying the other
- 56:33Speaker 1: is an awful parent and they hate each other. And
- 56:39Speaker 1: all they did was they did. They were both so
- 56:42Speaker 1: guilty of the long tributes, every holiday, every little hot thing,
- 56:48Speaker 1: which you'd always be like. And, you know, acting was
- 56:51Speaker 1: so in love and.
- 56:53Speaker 3: I fell for that shit, hook, line, and sinker, man.
- 56:55Speaker 3: I can barely believe that this is true. That's how
- 56:58Speaker 3: much I believed their stupid, like, everything. I mean, of
- 57:03Speaker 3: course I knew the show was produced, but I thought
- 57:05Speaker 3: that he seemed wildly obsessed with her and her with him.
- 57:10Speaker 1: Me too. And, like, with each kid and everything. And then, yeah.
- 57:16Speaker 3: And then what? Do you just think in the last
- 57:17Speaker 3: year she just, like, did Ozempic? and started gambling and
- 57:22Speaker 3: smoking again? I don't understand. Like, what happened there?
- 57:25Speaker 1: I think that she always gambled because they said that
- 57:27Speaker 1: in the show. There's parts of the two older girls
- 57:30Speaker 1: being like, our moms have gambled. There was a tweet
- 57:33Speaker 1: that one of these girls said, oh, my God, my
- 57:35Speaker 1: mom took me to the casino and left me in
- 57:37Speaker 1: the car for three hours and things like that. So
- 57:40Speaker 1: 100% that is true. We saw that on the show.
- 57:45Speaker 1: But I thought what we all saw in the show
- 57:46Speaker 1: is a great connection and really both being into the
- 57:49Speaker 1: kids a lot.
- 57:50Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 57:50Speaker 1: What I think happened is the show did not get
- 57:53Speaker 1: picked up. Money was running out. And she was not
- 57:59Speaker 1: going to change her spending. And then they had the
- 58:02Speaker 1: whole issue with not paying the foreclosure and this and that.
- 58:05Speaker 1: And then all the resentment and everything that they– like
- 58:08Speaker 1: her probably resenting him for him being dependent on her
- 58:13Speaker 1: business– of the family to keep them going and you're
- 58:17Speaker 1: not making any money. You're not, you're not bringing anything
- 58:20Speaker 1: in the NFL. So what if I want to fucking gamble?
- 58:22Speaker 1: I'm the one that just did, you know, a post for.
- 58:26Speaker 5: $ 10, 000.
- 58:26Speaker 1: Like, like, so I think she's resenting, like, this isn't
- 58:29Speaker 1: fun anymore. The kids are older. I don't even need
- 58:31Speaker 1: you to take care of the kids anymore. I don't
- 58:33Speaker 1: like it. Then he's resenting her. for spending out so
- 58:37Speaker 1: ridiculously and gambling and everything and then they are about
- 58:41Speaker 1: to lose their home and i just think the ugliest
- 58:44Speaker 1: shit that they have kept secret for 10 years came
- 58:48Speaker 1: out in horrible fights and there's no return now there's
- 58:53Speaker 1: the point of no return they have said it all they.
- 58:56Speaker 3: Have said they'll never get back together no.
- 58:58Speaker 1: I don't think they'll ever get back together.
- 59:00Speaker 3: Was he resenting her when he was driving her to
- 59:03Speaker 3: everything in the housewives? Remember how he'd always drive her? Yeah,
- 59:05Speaker 3: he drove her.
- 59:06Speaker 1: When she did my show, she said, I don't drive.
- 59:08Speaker 1: I don't drive. so he has to rent a car
- 59:11Speaker 1: and drive, and I don't... Oh, not only... No, I
- 59:15Speaker 1: think she drives, but she wouldn't... She can't sit in
- 59:19Speaker 1: the back seat. So they couldn't get, like, an Uber.
- 59:22Speaker 1: They'd have to rent a car, even though it doesn't
- 59:24Speaker 1: make sense because you're here for two days. He'd have
- 59:26Speaker 1: to rent a car, and he'd have to drive her.
- 59:28Speaker 1: Then she wouldn't go up she wouldn't go in elevators
- 59:31Speaker 1: for a while because she got stuck in one once.
- 59:34Speaker 1: So then he would, I don't know if she'd have
- 59:36Speaker 1: to get on a piggyback or whatever, because then he,
- 59:39Speaker 1: she didn't want to go upstairs either. Oh my God.
- 59:42Speaker 1: And so, yes, he did cater to her every whim.
- 59:47Speaker 3: And did he, do we know why he left the NFL?
- 59:49Speaker 1: I just saw, I don't know. I think it just ended.
- 59:51Speaker 1: I think he did it for a couple of seasons
- 59:53Speaker 1: and then whatever, you get to be 30 and it's over.
- 59:56Speaker 1: I don't know. But, um, and I don't think he
- 59:58Speaker 1: was maybe that great of a player. But I just
- 1:00:01Speaker 1: saw this girl that used to do their wigs and
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: stuff because even the other girls started wearing wigs. Like, why?
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: Young girls. And she's like, oh, my God, look at this.
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: And the girl has her expensive wig. And she's having
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: a girl add hair extensions to the wig to just
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: make it that much more fuller and that much more lush.
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: And then just all the Louis Vuitton. She just spent, spent, spent.
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: So now she's like trying to sell everything and she's like,
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: don't buy on Kim's closet right now because Corey would
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: get half of it. Wait till we're divorced before you
- 1:00:37Speaker 1: buy the Kim stuff.
- 1:00:39Speaker 3: Do you think are they trying to get a show
- 1:00:41Speaker 3: of some sort?
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: No, I really think. No, I really think they hate
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: each other. I just don't think you'd spend lawyers and
- 1:00:47Speaker 1: say nasty stuff about each other if it wasn't true.
- 1:00:50Speaker 1: In the end, I think she should get a show
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: and I think the show should be. get the cameras
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: right now and show her being like, having heartfelt like
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: documentary moments of like, I can't believe this happened and
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: this is why it happened. I would rather see that
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: than her just join Atlanta, but most likely she'll probably
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: just join Atlanta, go back to Atlanta.
- 1:01:08Speaker 3: Oh, I'd definitely rather see her. I don't want her
- 1:01:11Speaker 3: back on Atlanta without Nene, but I would definitely love
- 1:01:13Speaker 3: to see her now in a not so produced fake
- 1:01:16Speaker 3: bullshit thing. Like right now being, being, But it wouldn't
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: be on Bravo, right?
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: I know, but I mean, it's not. I think she's
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: already signed. I think what we don't know is that
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: she's probably already like doing a deal with Bravo, which
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: is the set deal, which, okay, fine. But in doing that,
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: then she can't go do something else.
- 1:01:36Speaker 3: If she did a deal with Bravo, would Croy get
- 1:01:38Speaker 3: half of that right now? Or no?
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: I don't know. They're probably going to try to get
- 1:01:43Speaker 1: the divorce going or no date of separation maybe. I
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, you're right. You know, if he gets
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: custody or if he gets half custody, she's going to
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: have to pay because he doesn't have an income.
- 1:01:53Speaker 3: He gets an NFL pension. Right. But we don't know
- 1:01:56Speaker 3: how much that is.
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:01:57Speaker 3: I'd be pissed, too, if I got a football player
- 1:01:59Speaker 3: and then a year later he's done playing.
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: A year later he was brushing her wigs.
- 1:02:04Speaker 3: Yeah, like, no. You're going to need to go be
- 1:02:07Speaker 3: a commentator.
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: His blonde eyelashes died. And I think he even got
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: a couple little extensions. I do.
- 1:02:15Speaker 3: Because he started looking like... Yeah.
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:02:18Speaker 3: If they're going in there, they might as well just
- 1:02:19Speaker 3: add some in.
- 1:02:20Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:02:20Speaker 3: They both started looking wild, like insane.
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: He looks really thin now, though. He looks very different
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: and thin and aged. Tell everybody about your new show,
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: everything that's going on in your lives so they can
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: get more of Brandon and Julie in their lives.
- 1:02:35Speaker 3: Well, we do need everyone to join our Patreon. That's
- 1:02:38Speaker 3: the main thing. That's at julieandbrandy.com. You can hear a
- 1:02:40Speaker 3: free episode. That's the bread and butter.
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: To support the girls.
- 1:02:45Speaker 3: Yeah, we just have to keep adding jobs, Heather.
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: Yes.
- 1:02:49Speaker 3: We don't get to ever take any jobs away. I mean,
- 1:02:54Speaker 3: in a month we added several new jobs and then
- 1:02:57Speaker 3: never quit any of our old ones. So we have
- 1:03:00Speaker 3: a free podcast called Dumb Gay Politics if you like
- 1:03:03Speaker 3: liberal politics, which no one does. And then the Patreon
- 1:03:09Speaker 3: is not politics. At all. It's just us fucking around.
- 1:03:13Speaker 5: Yes.
- 1:03:14Speaker 3: And then we have a show on series, which is
- 1:03:15Speaker 3: the Jeff Lewis Live After Show. So if you like
- 1:03:17Speaker 3: Jeff Lewis, you listen to his show, and then we
- 1:03:19Speaker 3: do the After Show.
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: That is great. Thank you, girls.
- 1:03:23Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: Love you.
- 1:03:24Speaker 3: Love you, Heather.
- 1:03:24Speaker 5: Bye.
- 1:03:25Speaker 3: Happy birthday month. Pride month.
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: Yes, thank you.
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