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256. "A Safe Place" - The Case of Morgan Bauer - Newton County, Georgia [Part 3] · Least of These

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to least of these where I cover the cases that need it most because every life matters and everyone deserves justice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm your host Leah D and today I'll be bringing you part three of the case of Morgan Bauer in Newton County, Georgia another warning.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This case is extremely violent and graphic in nature.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Listener discretion is advised and with that said, let's get right to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: After Katelyn Goble and Alexander Warren were arrested, Katelyn and Peoria, Illinois, and Alex and Los Angeles, California, they were both extradited to the state of Georgia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And while Katelyn had pointed her finger squarely at Alex and said he, he was responsible for Morgan's murder and everything that happened afterward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She said she'd been so afraid of him that she went along with everything to save her own life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Alex Warren, while he told a very different story, he told investigators that it was never his idea to kill Morgan Bower.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was Caitlyn's.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Initially, Caitlyn Gobble was charged with concealing a death in tampering with evidence.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Alex faced charges including felony murder, aggravated assault, concealing a death in tampering with evidence.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But in November of 2023, a Georgia grand jury indicted them on additional charges.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Alex was charged with malice murder felony murder aggravated assault by strangulation, tampering with evidence, concealing the death of another and necrophilia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In Caitlyn Goble, while she was also charged with malice murder felony murder aggravated assault, tampering with evidence and concealing the death of another.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Caitlyn pled not guilty, but Alex Warren, he pled guilty from the start.
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[SPEAKER_00]: According to Dakota News now, Warren not only admitted his Roland Morgan's murder, but also asked for a speedy trial, and that he would receive the death penalty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if he's asking for it, shouldn't we just give it to him?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying it, because what Alexander Warren admitted was heinous on a whole
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[SPEAKER_00]: After speaking with the lawyer, Warren sat down with prosecutors for a two-hour interview during which he described his own role, and Caitlyn Goboos and Morgan's murder.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and we'll leave really a little bit there because I want to talk about some of that, but at the meantime, if you were talking about y'all arriving back at the home of the 90s, we're all warning that with us to do a set in the first time that you met, walking, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a crew, a
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[SPEAKER_04]: That's over to both I didn't tell her she she came in with Kate and It's a big deal about it whatever they have so what else would you General I guess that it worth a moment I told her I said if you want some of the things that I can give you something I said if I present there You won't listen for a bit and
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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that was his, he said, well, we're going in, she went to, she said, I'm going to go in, I'm going to crash out.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, that was good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I was, I was, more or 10, but I couldn't, I wanted to go in, I wanted to go in.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to go in, I wanted to go in, I wanted to go in, I wanted to go in, I wanted to go in, I wanted to go in.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Before she goes to bed, before she goes to bed, she relax, when the women come to bless us with it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So that's this out on a technical work the next day, I would love to continue to show them all of us to see it, but she's saying they're okay we have forgetting every first.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is a really modern working mother, she has somebody to be friends with, make it the length of even better, which there's no better than they can have that one.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, that would probably be a very simple order, you know, we have these sheets.
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[UNKNOWN]: She starts, she starts, she stops.
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[UNKNOWN]: And she looks up, she looks at me, and she looks at him.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I'm talking so hard, because I got a flag with this stuff up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And she goes, you know, I'm gonna kill me already.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And I look at him, he looked at me, I said,
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[SPEAKER_04]: He says, no, I would do that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And she's like, okay, and she lay down and about how will it be?
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[SPEAKER_04]: And she fell asleep.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay, it comes in for six years with me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She could quite be a majority of the time, with everything about the best they don't want to afford.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She's looking at me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She says, hey, she keeps me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She says, hey, she keeps me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She says, hey, she keeps me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She says, hey, she keeps me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She says, hey, she keeps me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She says, hey, she keeps me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She says, hey, she keeps me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She says, hey, she keeps me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She says, hey, she keeps me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She says, hey, she keeps me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She says, hey, she keeps me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She says, hey, she keeps me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She says, hey, she keeps me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She says, hey, she keeps me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She says, hey, she keeps me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She says, hey, she keeps me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She says, hey, she keeps me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And like you would recommend a small show and pass for sure, you know, I said no, no, I didn't.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And the people who I started maybe catching, I was out and I said, what could you do?
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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a felt-to-marker role in the police and that allowed support for us as a number of example, a state-to-the-face opposite.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I said no, I started walking, shoot, she says, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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[SPEAKER_04]: I said that, and she's quite up to 10 minutes about it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I started liking all of it, but they're all like what they're all for making the set areas of the shop is, you know, so this is just, you know, she just made it as well on her.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She said, don't bitch, that'll help me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She asked to give me four, but as she said, she said, I feel like don't bitch.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't love you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: No.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going
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[SPEAKER_04]: She said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come on, she said come
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[SPEAKER_04]: behind it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And after I'm a shoulder and immediately, you know, you're up.
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[SPEAKER_04]: She might have a little bit of some wood, I didn't get her, I didn't get her, I didn't get her red.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I went in a few seconds and she was shaking and I got her down to the floor.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Time
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[SPEAKER_04]: There are animals over there, and those are your dogs.
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[SPEAKER_04]: That is the suit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Bye.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because she asked me to.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Because she asked me to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How long is it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is this happening that she is in a room asking you?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Say, okay, well, I just said I want to tell you what's the other thing to say about 40 minutes to get an old dead floor?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you're saying,
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[SPEAKER_02]: You get it because you loved her and she was asked to see more of her than you were on her.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why she was asking me out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because she needed somebody stronger.
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[SPEAKER_04]: If you've been just going to help me deliver up the cancer doctor, if you've been able to borrow the drug and take her elsewhere, you're doing her silver, maybe she brought me up, so she's going to be able to do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But this isn't so complicated to me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you go back on this, it will come back to also white paint with a lot, you know, disgusting, sort of, came only up to it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the night of each trailer, you said, Caitlyn puts her hands on her neck and gently goes to the windmill, a pop.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't feel her Caitlyn did it.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I got the windmill, her she probably wouldn't have been right in the rest of her life, but Caitlyn actually killed her.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was guilty, but, all right, well, more so, you know, I shouldn't have been active in it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, Caitlyn pressed into my pocket than what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to kill her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She said I want to cut her up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So according to Warren, Morgan was killed because Caitlyn wanted to know what it was like to kill in this member someone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He claimed he attacked Morgan while she was sleeping because Caitlyn wanted him to, but that Caitlyn was the one who ultimately ended Morgan's life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Warren continued on saying that as Caitlyn dismembered Morgan, he got the bonfires going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He added that Caitlyn laughed and joked as she dismembered Morgan's body.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he admitted to sexually assaulting Morgan after her death.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just not going to get into those details here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have to tell you that what Alex Warren and Caitlyn Gobble did was psychopathic deranged, sick and twisted on a level that defies all human decency.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And unlike Caitlyn, Warren never claimed Morgan had attacked him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He told prosecutors that he and Caitlyn had only just met Morgan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All those stories Caitlyn had told about raves and giving Morgan Grides, while according to Alex and later Evidence presented a trial, those stories were lies.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Caitlyn barely knew Morgan, and it was looking a whole lot like she lured Morgan Bower to that home in Porterdale, so that she and Alex could kill her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: According to later Cortesta Moni, Alex Warren had voluntarily sat down for that to our interview with prosecutors.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't asking for a deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He pleaded guilty to malice murder, tampering with evidence, concealing the death of another, and necrophilia, and asked for the maximum punishment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Death.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In January of 2024, Warren formally pled guilty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He, of course, had asked for death, his attorney's asked for life with the possibility of parole, and since this wasn't a death penalty qualified case in the state of Georgia, prosecutors asked for life with no parole.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The judge agreed with the prosecution citing the horrific facts of the case.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Alexander Warren was sentenced to life without the possibility of parole and is currently serving that sentence
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[SPEAKER_00]: With Alex Warren's case resolved, it was time to deal with Caitlyn Gobble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She maintained her not guilty plea and took her case to trial before Superior Court Judge Joe Bishop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The trial began on August 25, 2026.
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[SPEAKER_00]: An opening statement, Assistant District Attorney Bailey Wilkinson, made it clear that the state believe Caitlyn was just as responsible for Morgan's murder as Alex.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Prosecutors argued that Caitlyn had befriended Morgan, Lordher to their home in Porterdale, and participated in her murder in the mutilation disposal of her body, all because of her disturbing fascination with death and violence.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They also argued that Morgan had been targeted because the pair thought she was just a stripper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and that nobody would come looking for her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, how wrong they were.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The prosecution laid out the cell phone evidence telling the jury that they believed Morgan had been murdered in the early morning hours of February 26, 2016.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was around the time her phone activity ended, the same evening she had auditioned at the same club as Caitlyn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the state told the jury that they would hear from plenty of witnesses, but they would not hear from Alex Warren.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't need him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Prosecutors believe they could prove that Caitlyn was guilty without him, and they weren't going to give him another opportunity to describe the horrific acts he had admitted to committing against Morgan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And one of the people that I talked about already, and that you're going to hear a lot about, is how it's turned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the state does not plan on calling him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is our turn to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant did the things that she was accused of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's our job to prove that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we decided that we don't leave him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to prove the boundaries of that, but the defendant can't even disguise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are not going to give him a platform to talk about the things that he did to Morgan, that he enjoyed, that they did together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to turn this into a circus, but he's going to see that throughout the defendant's statements, that's what she tries to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She ships the talents and talents of talents.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to show you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that they did this together and what you're going to look at throughout this trial is how they acted before, during, and after.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what to prove to you that she was an accurate participant in these crimes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's going to claim that she was coerced, that out of the schoolster to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk a little bit more about her statements and why that doesn't show that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What I'm asking you to do while you listen to the evidence is, is that, for example, it's what she did for me, it's the book based on what she's describing, also what she does after.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She could put the evidence, will show, is that although it doesn't matter if we return to the struggle to work a power, that it was there planned together, this was something that they wanted to enjoy together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: that the benefit was the one that took Morgan's phone on the party, took the battery out, so she could feel it, he got rid of the phone, destroying evidence, that she helped cut out Morgan's power's body, and that she sat at that fire while Morgan's power's fire burned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And as she never reported it, a lot of course, went into, she was back to the report, and she had, a big part of your job is going to be to assess the credibility of witnesses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because that's not much to say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's how to say things to you, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And part of things, you can consider, it's just by language.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that also includes, in interviews, not just from who it is, Sam.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Any sort of bloated or biased stuff or something, would have why are they lying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why are they telling the truth?
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[SPEAKER_01]: and any inconsistencies do they make sense or not?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because the biggest person's credibility that you're going to be assessing is the defendant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Last week, she gives years worth of statement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Years, starting in the 2016.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When we listen to those statements, I know that it's going to probably feel like a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I like to say, we're going to do our best job through the three things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it is important because it's important to hear everything that she says in the timeline of which she says things.
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[SPEAKER_01]: look for the evolution of her statement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 2016, when she's back in the corner in 2023, I pass it in with the things that they did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How does it change?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the likes that she tells you, because every single one of those interviews she does lie and you're going to see it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She paints herself as a victim, distancing from
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[SPEAKER_01]: June quote words, match for actions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you're going to have to wait and drop this track.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Caitlyn had lied.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She lied repeatedly and tailored her story to fit the evidence.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the state contended she'd also lied when she said she was a victim of domestic violence at the hands of Alex Warren.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The state's position was that Caitlyn Global had been a willing participant all along, and her action, including her own social media post would prove it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, the defense told a very different story, and it's opening the attorneys claim that the state's case was all just smoke and mirrors.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Caitlyn was afraid of Alex.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She had dropped everything and moved to Georgia and had no one there except him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She depended on him, and he was the one who had killed Morgan.
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[SPEAKER_00]: According to the defense, Alex wanted a threesome with the two girls, and both women refused.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Caitlyn left the room and came back to find that Morgan had been murdered.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The defense claimed Caitlyn was terrified and that everybody reacted differently to trauma.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Their client hadn't killed anyone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, she was the reason Morgan had been found.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody gets the trunk.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody gets the trunk.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody gets the trunk.
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[SPEAKER_03]: It's all I ask that you take that on to consideration.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And we go through all the evidence.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You'll see that Caitlyn did not kill.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Caitlyn was the reason that she was pregnant.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Caitlyn was the one who came forward.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Caitlyn was the one who said,
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[SPEAKER_03]: was all gay.
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[SPEAKER_03]: So I should take the audience into consideration.
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[SPEAKER_03]: And remember who packed the bird?
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[SPEAKER_03]: And remember who packed the fruits each and every one of you, the honor of these little dogs?
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[SPEAKER_03]: That kid didn't in fact kill working on it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: That she did in fact good spotty or plant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was outrageous, but I mean, what else did they have, really?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And with that, the state began presenting their case.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was clear from the one that Chief Assistant DA Amber Dally and Assistant District Attorney Bailey Wilkinson intended to leave no stone on turn and to make sure the jury had no questions regarding exactly what had happened in this case.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I normally say my commentary for the end, but before I even get into day one of this trial, I have to give credit where it's due.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Amber Dally and Bailey Wilkinson did an incredible job prosecuting this case, and their passion for getting justice for Morgan was evident from opening statements through closing arguments.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They pulled exactly zero punches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Their presentation was precise, flawless, and they painted a picture that was impossible to ignore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I just had to say that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And really, I probably didn't need to because we're about to get right into it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: After a powerful opening, the state took the jury through the case with witness testimony starting with a Lana police detective Joel Galvin, who had taken Morgan missing persons report.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He told the jury that Caitlyn Gobel had been a person of interest in Morgan's case all along.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was the detective who first spoke to Gobel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember back in episode one when she told her first story?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the one where she didn't know her boyfriend's name or address.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was pretty clear police that Caitlyn was shady from the beginning, and it wasn't just the police in Atlanta.
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[SPEAKER_00]: As we know, Caitlyn told multiple stories to Morgan's mother's share in her advocate Casey.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Atlanta police, Porterdale police, and eventually Pioria police, and the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Her story began with dropping Morgan off with a random man in the gas station and ended with her witnessing Morgan's murder and being so afraid of Alex Warren she was too gripped and fear to do anything about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course there were plenty of variations in between.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think we need to go back through it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But prosecutors walk the jury through every step of that, ending with as she was so scared story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But was she?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Was she a victim doing what she had to do to survive, trying desperately to get away from Alex Warren?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or was she just as demented as he was?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because as Casey McClure had discovered all the way back when Morgan first went missing, Caitlin Gobel's Facebook.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that Facebook told a whole different story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was the whole Bob Hills people for fun post on February 25th, the day before the murder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But that wasn't all.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Through Porterdale Police Detective Randy Downs, the state presented Caitlin's Facebook TikTok and cell phone records.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Starting 22 days before Morgan was murdered, with the creation of the Lilif Chaos account on Facebook.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That account was created and in the next day, Caitlyn posted a drawing of women suspended with wire on swings.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Their bodies cut open and their skin flayed with their rib cages exposed and large laceration on their legs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Alex Warren commented,
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[SPEAKER_00]: The day before the murder was the bog kills people for fun posts along with one in which Caitlin wrote, I am the last person you will ever want to lock horns with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Come on, try me bitches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The day after Morgan was murdered, you know, when she claimed she was so afraid of Alex, she wrote, I hate how some people don't understand that they can't be hitting up someone else's boyfriend for emotional support.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Leave us the fuck alone, and understand that just because I'd been nice so far doesn't mean I won't get scary if you cross me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The post continued.
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[SPEAKER_00]: On March 2, Caitlyn shared a photo of a couple in a bathtub taking a bubble bath.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The post-rette, I cannot lose you because if I ever did, I'd have lost my best friend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My soulmate, my smile, my laugh.
23:34
[SPEAKER_00]: A few days later she posted, I know you're dead inside and that's what I like.
23:38
[SPEAKER_00]: On March 9, Caitlyn commented on a post about holding a sharp knife to a boy's neck to make him nervous.
23:45
[SPEAKER_00]: She tagged Alex and wrote, I hope he likes that I'm weird.
23:50
[SPEAKER_00]: The following day she posted a video of Alex dancing happily in the bedroom where Morgan had been killed, the caption read, Happy Dance.
23:59
[SPEAKER_00]: That same day she wrote, Death is when the party really started and she tagged Alex.
24:05
[SPEAKER_00]: On March 11, Caitlyn commented on a post, I can kill a bitch with a bat, just try me.
24:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Your brains will be smeared on everything.
24:13
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you would prefer I use a gun.
24:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Morgan was officially reported missing the following day on March 12.
24:21
[SPEAKER_00]: On March 14, Caitlyn wrote, I love you, Alex.
24:24
[SPEAKER_00]: You're so sweet to me.
24:27
[SPEAKER_00]: On March 26, she posted, out.
24:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Guess I struck a court.
24:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Bet you were begging for my man back so he could support your nasty ass like he used to before I came along and taught him that a real woman
24:43
[SPEAKER_00]: On that same day, she shared a post that said, he's empty without her, and she's heartless without him.
24:49
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, a till death to us part wedding cake, and another photo that said, darkness is my nature.
24:56
[SPEAKER_00]: On March 27, Caitlyn posted photos of Alex both before and after he cut his beard.
25:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Three days later, she shared a photo that said, innocent looking, but kinky as fuck.
25:07
[SPEAKER_00]: On May 9th, another photo of Alex in the bedroom, with one hand up by his ear and one finger to his lips and a gesture suggesting silence.
25:16
[SPEAKER_00]: May 14th, 2016, was the Post at Rooster Falls stating it was their last day in Porterdale.
25:23
[SPEAKER_00]: The next day, she posted multiple selfies with Alex, where they appeared to be a happy couple.
25:28
[SPEAKER_00]: She wrote, on my way to hot springs.
25:31
[SPEAKER_00]: On June 9, there was that breakup post where she announced the end of their relationship and asked people to look out for Alex because she wouldn't be there to take care of him and she was already worried.
25:42
[SPEAKER_00]: On July 24, she posted claiming she was back in Pioria.
25:46
[SPEAKER_00]: But even after their relationship ended, Facebook records showed that Caitlyn continued communication with Alex.
25:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, the prosecution's point in all this wasn't just a drag Caitlyn gobble, but to show that though she told investigators she was disgusted by what Alex had done and terrified that he would kill her next, it was sure hard to tell that from her actions both before and after Morgan's murder.
26:10
[SPEAKER_00]: And even after leaving Alex, Katelyn's post about death and murder continued.
26:15
[SPEAKER_00]: On September 1, 2016, Katelyn wrote, don't mistake my kindness for weakness, I'll choke you with the same hand I fed you with.
26:24
[SPEAKER_00]: January of 2017, Katelyn made multiple posting comments about serial killers.
26:29
[SPEAKER_00]: She commented on a post about Richard Ramirez writing, they are so fascinating, I love serial killers.
26:37
[SPEAKER_00]: She shared photos of multiple serial killers, one of them being Ted Bundy, with a quote from him that read, we serial killers are your sons, we are your husbands, we are everywhere.
26:47
[SPEAKER_00]: and there will be more of your children dead tomorrow.
26:51
[SPEAKER_00]: And then in April of 2017, when Caitlyn claimed that she had just so happened to bump into Alex Warning, California.
26:58
[SPEAKER_00]: You all remember that story, right?
27:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it turns out that little reunion wasn't quite as serendipitous as Caitlyn claimed.
27:06
[SPEAKER_00]: According to court testimony, Caitlyn had reached out to one of Alex Warning's friends on Facebook, Lookin' Boram.
27:12
[SPEAKER_00]: She wrote, hey man, do you know where I can find Alex?
27:16
[SPEAKER_00]: The person responded, Garza, which apparently is another nickname for him.
27:20
[SPEAKER_00]: They continued.
27:21
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't seen him since I've been in Santa Monica.
27:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Caitlyn wrote back.
27:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you is still out there as he introducing himself as Garza now.
27:30
[SPEAKER_00]: They responded, that's how I know him.
27:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Caitlyn wrote, and that in Venice for a few weeks and trying to find his crazy ass.
27:39
[SPEAKER_00]: The person answered, I'm not sure everyone started with the meth so I left.
27:45
[SPEAKER_00]: As we know, Caitlyn did find Alex Warren and Benus Beach with his new girlfriend, and she told investigators that she had to help them because Alex and his girlfriend both had headblies.
27:55
[SPEAKER_00]: So she went and got treatment, you know, the Ritter whatever, and she treated them both for life.
28:01
[SPEAKER_00]: They hung out for about three days.
28:04
[SPEAKER_00]: And after that, Caitlyn took the Facebook to update the friend she was previously talking to.
28:09
[SPEAKER_00]: On April 19th, 2017, she said, found him, the friend responded, he okay?
28:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Caitlin said, yep, still has his girl with him and doing pretty well.
28:21
[SPEAKER_00]: so much for being too afraid of Alex to go near him.
28:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Fast forward a few years to 2021 when Caitlyn gobble to discover TikTok.
28:30
[SPEAKER_00]: She uploaded hundreds of videos, the overwhelming majority of them with dark, evil macabre themes.
28:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to go through all of them because we'd be here all day, but let's get into a few of the highlights.
28:43
[SPEAKER_00]: There was a video of her dressed up as some form of a demon, lip-sinking, will you help
28:51
[SPEAKER_00]: She captioned that video, not again.
28:53
[SPEAKER_00]: In many of her videos, she was dressed as some sort of demonic creature, and once she has fake blood on her mouth, she licks it and then smears it on her face.
29:04
[SPEAKER_00]: In another, she's dressed up as a creature again, and mowing the words as a sound place.
29:09
[SPEAKER_00]: In the video, there are two voices, which neither of her Caitlyn's.
29:13
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a sound made for TikTok, y'all know how that goes.
29:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, the first voice says, it's my body, I'm going to do what I want with it.
29:22
[SPEAKER_00]: The second boy says, okay fair enough, but it's been rotting in the corner all day and it smells terrible.
29:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you move it outside?
29:29
[SPEAKER_00]: The first boy's response in a mocking tone.
29:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Can I move it outside?
29:33
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's my body.
29:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to do what I want with it.
29:37
[SPEAKER_00]: There's another video with the background song, got a secret from pretty little liars.
29:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Caitlyn is all dressed up like a demon again and simulates slashing her own neck.
29:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Another video and another demon cosplay.
29:50
[SPEAKER_00]: This time, Caitlyn Mal is the words to another sound.
29:53
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a creepy voice that says, don't be afraid.
29:56
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not gonna hurt you.
29:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna kill you.
30:00
[SPEAKER_00]: There's one where she appears on screen with fake autopsy stitches.
30:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And the voice in the sound says, I hid you too well.
30:07
[SPEAKER_00]: I kidnapped you.
30:09
[SPEAKER_00]: There's another with a song in the background all about dead bodies, and part it says, my backyard full of dead bodies, I got a pile of dead bodies.
30:19
[SPEAKER_00]: There's Gory Makeup, Jason Voorhees, post about sirens, wicked witches, and plenty of pentagrams.
30:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Out of the hundreds of TikToks, only maybe five or six were not some sort of dark theme.
30:32
[SPEAKER_00]: And it wasn't only Caitlin's social media that painted a darker picture of who she actually
30:38
[SPEAKER_00]: The prosecution also pointed to Caitlin's own words describing herself and police interviews.
31:04
[SPEAKER_00]: In one interview with police, Caitlyn Goble referred to herself as a siren who manipulated men.
31:09
[SPEAKER_00]: The prosecution contended that Caitlyn wasn't some poor, scared little girl, and she sure as hell wasn't trying to avoid Alex Warren.
31:17
[SPEAKER_00]: She had gone looking for him after the murders.
31:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Detective Downs also testified about the search of the home in Porterdale, the missing persons flyer found in the desk.
31:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Morgan's partial remains recovered at the property line in the backyard.
31:32
[SPEAKER_00]: and that jewelry hidden away in the air vent.
31:35
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Alex Warren's adoptive parents took the stand.
31:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Alex was Dr. Warren's great nephew, and they had adopted him as a baby and gave him a great life.
31:46
[SPEAKER_00]: His mom, Judith Warren, testified that Alex had met Caitlyn over the internet and that they had showed up at their door filled the Instinctin and that she and her husband took them in.
31:56
[SPEAKER_00]: But the Caitlyn always gave her the creeps and she felt uncomfortable around her.
32:01
[SPEAKER_00]: But she didn't have to see her much because they always came home so late, and they used that separate entrance.
32:07
[SPEAKER_00]: Judith went on to say that Caitlyn seemed to be the dominant one in the relationship and was always telling Alex what to do.
32:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Caitlyn had never been the type to come and sip coffee with Judith as Caitlyn had claimed in one of her 9 million stories, where she said after the murder she had gone and drank coffee with Alex's mom to avoid him after Morgan's murder.
32:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Judith told the jury that her husband drove Alex and Katelyn to the Alabama state line in May of 2016 when they set off hitchhiking, and that was the last time she saw Katelyn gobble.
32:39
[SPEAKER_00]: The warrants had never met Morgan and had no idea a brutal murder had taken place in their home.
32:46
[SPEAKER_00]: They first became aware when the police showed up to search in 2023.
32:51
[SPEAKER_00]: But Judas' testimony took a turn during cross-examination.
32:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Fireworks exploded as she answered questions about Alex returning to the house years after Morgan's murder.
33:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Judith explained that he wasn't allowed free-rained at the home because he had schizophrenia and was mentally ill. She said she wasn't afraid he would become violent, but worried he might steal from her and her husband.
33:15
[SPEAKER_00]: That prompted a fiery objection from the prosecution because the issue of Alex's mental health had been addressed before trial and the defense had agreed it would not be raised in front of the jury.
33:26
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a reminder of the motion in the meeting that dealt with the crisis and all that.
33:32
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I wanted to see the jury gotten more of that.
33:37
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's what we just want to address the rest of it.
33:40
[SPEAKER_02]: because the next way this is going to be the dad and the dad, yeah, the same way or the seventh, the normal side ghosties that weren't supposed to be in our mother.
33:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, and I just think discussing the parents concerned with how it's post any of this.
33:55
[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about years after, but how to do anything with what was going on between the defendant and how it's at the time.
34:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really know the best way to make your or fours of that,
34:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we feel agreed, right?
34:11
[SPEAKER_02]: That wasn't any of this little few guys agreed.
34:13
[SPEAKER_02]: That I'm going to see, see, see, see, it's pretty on and then boom, we just dropped it right there.
34:17
[SPEAKER_02]: So I guess we have to sit here and contemplate do we need a little bit of it?
34:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, do we address it with the jury?
34:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Because if it's not supposed to be something that comes in, I don't know if the relevant is of why you're throwing me on a house later now.
34:27
[SPEAKER_02]: But and you're certainly another way is to spend me coming out on the swimming and I'm going to go down that path with the toddler and get that bear.
34:35
[SPEAKER_04]: Nobody asked about his mental issues.
34:37
[SPEAKER_04]: That's all I'm going to be getting into.
34:38
[SPEAKER_04]: She might not understand.
34:39
[SPEAKER_04]: Based off of the testimony she gave to Downs.
34:41
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what we're getting into in this vote.
34:42
[SPEAKER_04]: That's our argument out of the fence in our case.
34:45
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't care about his mental issues.
34:46
[SPEAKER_04]: That's all I have to about it.
34:48
[SPEAKER_04]: And then I didn't hear a statement to Downs.
34:50
[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't even talking about the mental issues.
34:51
[SPEAKER_01]: It was something else.
34:53
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you had a talk to that witness, you didn't know what her answer was for me.
34:56
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I said, this, whatever she's going to respond is not when we've held it.
35:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would ask that we'd refer to the outside because he's a wizard.
35:02
[SPEAKER_01]: We can't, I'm really about like that.
35:04
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, look, we're sending out five.
35:11
[SPEAKER_04]: And you won't be too.
35:12
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you, what do you, what do you, and do you just have to be
35:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Ultimately, the state decided not to draw any more attention to the comments and to move along with testimony.
35:27
[SPEAKER_00]: Alex Morin was an on-trial, Katelyn Bobal was, and with that, Dr. Robert Morin took the stand.
35:34
[SPEAKER_00]: He testified that he had never met Morgan, had not seen problems between Alex and Katelyn, and rarely interacted with a couple.
35:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Like his wife, he said his last contact with Katelyn was when he drove her in Alex to the Alabama state line.
35:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Next, hobbyists film migratary feely and private investigator Ashley Durham testified about their communications with Caitlyn.
35:56
[SPEAKER_00]: They described the messages and phone calls in which her story changed repeatedly, and how Caitlyn told Terry that Alex never lifted a hand to her.
36:05
[SPEAKER_00]: And also, all of those comments Caitlyn made about suing Morgan and her mother, knowing good and damn well Morgan hadn't simply run away.
36:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Caitlyn had lied repeatedly over seven years, allowing Morgan's loved ones to continue assert she knew the whole time had ended on February 26 and Porterdale.
36:24
[SPEAKER_00]: Then, Peoria police detective Scott holes took the stand and testified to some of the most damning evidence of all.
36:30
[SPEAKER_00]: Morgan's cell phone records.
36:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Those records helped establish Morgan's movements in the days before she disappeared.
36:38
[SPEAKER_00]: Morgan arrived in Georgia on February 12, 2016.
36:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Her phone records placed her in several areas, including Sandy Springs, Lawrenceville and Gainesville.
36:47
[SPEAKER_00]: On the evening of February 24, her phone traveled from Gainesville to the North Atlanta area where it remained for about two hours.
36:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is the first time Morgan Bauer communicated with Katelyn Gobal via cell phone.
37:04
[SPEAKER_00]: At 424pm on February 24, Katelyn called Morgan.
37:09
[SPEAKER_00]: The two exchanged text messages later that day.
37:11
[SPEAKER_00]: In the early morning hours of February 25, Morgan called 911 from the Georgiana Motel.
37:18
[SPEAKER_00]: Reporting that that man would not stop knocking on her door.
37:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Morgan no longer felt safe staying there.
37:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Caitlyn and Alex offered her a safe place to stay.
37:29
[SPEAKER_00]: At 1246 AM on February 26, Caitlyn called Morgan again.
37:33
[SPEAKER_00]: The two exchange text messages at 1250 AM.
37:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Morgan's phone last pinged and gamesville at 1254 AM.
37:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Shortly after that, Morgan's records place her in Porterdale.
37:45
[SPEAKER_00]: The last outgoing text message sent from Morgan's phone was sent at 22AM on the 26th.
37:52
[SPEAKER_00]: After that, there was no further communication from Morgan Bauer.
37:57
[SPEAKER_00]: By 4pm that day, the phone appeared to have been disabled.
38:00
[SPEAKER_00]: Its final recorded location was Porterdale.
38:04
[SPEAKER_00]: The record showed a total of 16 boys calls between Morgan and Katelyn, most of them in-cuping calls to Morgan from Katelyn, along with 66 text messages.
38:15
[SPEAKER_00]: The records indicated that Morgan Bauer only had contact with Katelyn Goble for the last 36 hours of her life.
38:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Prosecutors argued this was further evidence that Katelyn and Alex had lured Morgan to that
38:56
[SPEAKER_00]: The State called Caitlin's ex-husband David Settles to the stand.
39:00
[SPEAKER_00]: He told the jury that he had met Caitlin in 2016 at a music festival, and when they first started dating, she told him she was involved in a missing person's case.
39:10
[SPEAKER_00]: David testified that he was with Caitlin in California when they hung out with Alex Warren,
39:18
[SPEAKER_00]: During that trip, Settle said he overheard a hush-hush conversation in which Alex Warren said to Caitlyn something along the lines of, so I think we got away with it.
39:28
[SPEAKER_00]: He also told the jury that at one point while in California, Alex was mid-argument with his girlfriend when he and Caitlyn walked up.
39:36
[SPEAKER_00]: Alex was saying, she's going to talk, she's going to talk, and Caitlyn threatened the girlfriend, saying, you better keep your mouth shut or you're going to regret.
39:45
[SPEAKER_00]: He then went on to detail a conversation with Caitlyn while they were still married.
39:50
[SPEAKER_00]: One night after working in the strip club and after some drinks.
39:53
[SPEAKER_00]: Caitlyn called him and told him she was having a bad night and confessed that Morgan was dead and she and Alex killed her and she had helped get rid of her body.
40:03
[SPEAKER_00]: David told the jury that Caitlyn told him that she and Alex came up with a plan to lure Morgan away from the club to get her to hang out so that Alex could quote, get in her pants.
40:14
[SPEAKER_00]: David had later spoke with Terry Philly and Peoria police about what Caitlyn
40:24
[SPEAKER_04]: So she was emotional.
40:25
[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't play any game.
40:26
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm happy with the conversation.
40:28
[SPEAKER_04]: And she made much of the fact that she couldn't see it after.
40:32
[UNKNOWN]: Because she was also concerned.
40:33
[UNKNOWN]: That she told me what was going on.
40:35
[UNKNOWN]: She got the day off.
40:36
[UNKNOWN]: That actually.
40:37
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
40:38
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
40:38
[UNKNOWN]: And then there was a couple of things that you said, how does it make what we wanted to do.
40:44
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I did as she did.
40:46
[SPEAKER_03]: She told me that she helped, and I don't know what this guy is saying, didn't she?
40:53
[SPEAKER_03]: She didn't.
40:54
[SPEAKER_03]: She didn't record it for my baby call.
40:56
[SPEAKER_03]: She said, we killed a lot in the heart, because that was she told you.
41:01
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't, like, this is over a year ago.
41:04
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember if those words came out from out, but she told me that she helped get rid of her life.
41:12
[SPEAKER_04]: And you described it as the implant.
41:14
[SPEAKER_04]: So, some Jeffrey Doppershins.
41:18
[SPEAKER_00]: After describing Caitlyn's confessions, prosecutors asked him about his interactions with Caitlyn after her arrest and leading up to the trial.
41:26
[SPEAKER_00]: They remained in contact because they had children together.
41:29
[SPEAKER_00]: Things were cordial?
41:30
[SPEAKER_00]: That was until Goble learned that David had turned over evidence to prosecutors.
41:35
[SPEAKER_00]: That evidence?
41:37
[SPEAKER_00]: A photograph of a handwritten spell.
41:40
[SPEAKER_00]: As it turned out, Settles had found a handwritten spell for manipulation, he believed Caitlyn
41:47
[SPEAKER_00]: He had given it to the state just prior to trial, and to say Katelyn was pissed would be an understatement.
41:53
[SPEAKER_00]: David went on to say that Katelyn was heavily involved in witchcraft, had an altar in their closet, believed in the spirit of Lilith, and was really into blood and gore.
42:03
[SPEAKER_00]: He continued telling the jury that Caitlyn had always been manipulative, and often talked about how easily she could manipulate men to get what she wanted.
42:12
[SPEAKER_00]: And as it turned out, Caitlyn's manipulative behavior had not ended with her arrest.
42:17
[SPEAKER_00]: It hadn't ended even as testimony began in her murder trial, and it wouldn't end after David settles testimony either.
42:25
[SPEAKER_00]: From behind bars as she faced a life in prison, Caitlyn Gobo's behavior hadn't changed even a little bit, but that's a story for next week, because unfortunately, we are running out of time, and unbelievably, there is so much more to this story.
42:41
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43:19
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43:20
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43:21
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43:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And until next time, be good to each other.
44:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I really thought I'd be able to wrap up this case this week, but it seems everywhere you look, there is more to this story.
44:17
[SPEAKER_00]: But before we get too deep into that, I mentioned in the episode the incredible job done by prosecutors in this case, and I really can't overstate that.
44:26
[SPEAKER_00]: They had such a passion for justice for Morgan and her family.
44:30
[SPEAKER_00]: they presented the case in such a way that there's no question, not even one as to what happened in this case.
44:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And as you'll see next week, they didn't stop.
44:39
[SPEAKER_00]: They continued digging in and finding evidence, even as the trial was actively going on.
44:45
[SPEAKER_00]: If you were looking for a dream team, I think we found it.
44:48
[SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, it's an incredible thing to watch.
44:51
[SPEAKER_00]: They expertly woven every single relevant Facebook post and made sure to highlight each and every one of Caitlin's
44:59
[SPEAKER_00]: It was so precise and direct and just a beautiful thing to watch.
45:04
[SPEAKER_00]: You really felt as if they were fighting for Morgan, and I think that's because they were.
45:09
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's about all I got to say about that.
45:11
[SPEAKER_00]: You all know I love you more my luggage, and I can't wait to talk to you next week.
45:14
[SPEAKER_00]: But until then, bye bye bye.