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DISGUSTING DIDDY: VICTIM CRIES 'I AM NOT A PORN STAR! I AM NOT AN ANIMAL' · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: Disgusting, Diddy's victim cries between sobs on the stand, I
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Speaker 2: am not a porn star, I am not an animal.
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Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories, and I want
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Speaker 1: to thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 3: He's not used to being told no, and.
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Speaker 2: He throws a major tantrum because he can.
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Speaker 4: I've seen him get so angry that he looks like
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Speaker 4: he's about to pass out.
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Speaker 3: The veins in his neck are pop into.
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Speaker 2: The kickings, the beatings, the draggings.
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Speaker 3: He just can't believe that somebody says no to him.
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Speaker 3: He can't believe it.
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Speaker 2: In the last hours, the trial judge shoots down the
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Speaker 2: music mogul's last most recent request for a mistrial. Don't
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Speaker 2: you know he's having a Diddy fit right now? That
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Speaker 2: heartbreaking testimony pourse from the witness stand as Jane not
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Speaker 2: her real name, declares I Am not an animal. After
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Speaker 2: heartbreaking testimony, beatings about doors being broken down, draggings, druggings,
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Speaker 2: marathon sex sessions lasting up to eighteen hours and longer,
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Speaker 2: where she actually felt she was nothing more than an animal,
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Speaker 2: straight out to the Monahan Federal Courthouse, standing by special guest,
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Speaker 2: Tisa tells investigator, host of Tisa Tales on YouTube, Tisa,
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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. You know, the way
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Speaker 2: you described this witness on the stand as a baby
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Speaker 2: bunny getting tortured has really stuck in my head.
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Speaker 5: What happened today today? What happened was there was shock.
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Speaker 5: We knew that the defense was coming in for the cross.
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Speaker 6: Okay.
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Speaker 5: However, there was a little commotion before then, as you mentioned,
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Speaker 5: the motion for Mishawe was denied. However, there is an
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Speaker 5: issue with Durer number six. Okay, the defense loft that
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Speaker 5: slipped out when they were busy arguing with the judge.
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Speaker 5: The prosecution wants during number six. It looks like stricken
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Speaker 5: the defense wants them in.
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Speaker 6: Today. Jane dol took the stand.
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Speaker 5: And she still had that soft, sweet caramel voice. She
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Speaker 5: still had a very like, genuine feminine demeanor. However, she
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Speaker 5: stood her ground with the defense as they tried to
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Speaker 5: move forward with this narrative of.
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Speaker 6: You're a grown woman and you make grown choices.
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Speaker 5: They started early on asking her you like that, you
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Speaker 5: enjoyed that right, he treated you good, and she really
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Speaker 5: did a great job of pushing back and saying, wait
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Speaker 5: a second No at the.
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Speaker 7: Time, But now that I've had time, well to in
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Speaker 7: her voice, Now that I have time, I really thought
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Speaker 7: about it, and I realized that's not what I wanted,
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Speaker 7: and that's not what I wanted, and I really feel
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Speaker 7: a lot of resentment, you know, resentment.
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Speaker 5: Toward him that he took me down this road, down
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Speaker 5: this road of debauchery with the drugs and introduced me
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Speaker 5: to this lifestyle that I really really hate it. So again,
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Speaker 5: it's early on in the cross examination, and already this
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Speaker 5: little bunny rabbit has a little steel and she's pushing
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Speaker 5: back on the narrative that the defense is trying.
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Speaker 2: To posh any idea tasted tales why the state wants
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Speaker 2: to juror number six thrown off.
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Speaker 5: I mean, I've been in the court room and I
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Speaker 5: can only guess. But if I had to guess, dur
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Speaker 5: number six for what I can there's been a lot of.
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Speaker 6: Uh, there's been a little camaraderie between.
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Speaker 5: The jurors that I think the judge did a good
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Speaker 5: job of shutting down.
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Speaker 6: But from my impression, has shown a few issues.
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Speaker 5: Okay, there might have been issues with my not being
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Speaker 5: fully engaged, issues with passing notes back and forth issues
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Speaker 5: with maybe the facial expressions. Again, it's not just during
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Speaker 5: number six. We've seen this in the jury I think
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Speaker 5: the New York Times even wrote a letter about that.
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Speaker 5: I did a live the first time. I kind of
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Speaker 5: rang the alarm bell. But I gotta be honest with you,
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Speaker 5: this is a guessing game.
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Speaker 6: As to what's going on. Everybody in the.
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Speaker 5: Courtroom is wondering what is going on. The court is
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Speaker 5: keeping it under lock and seal, but it is something heavy,
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Speaker 5: and it leads me to believe that it's something pro
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Speaker 5: Diddy because the defense is like, hey, we're fine for
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Speaker 5: them to stay in.
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Speaker 6: It's the prosecution. It's like, no, you're honor. We need
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Speaker 6: to review transcripts. We need to review transcripts.
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Speaker 5: Because you know, there's cameras all over the court, not
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Speaker 5: just for what is being said in a jury box,
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Speaker 5: but also and they can even catch whispers since over
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Speaker 5: the jury box, where the public sits, where the press sits.
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Speaker 5: So they want to actually review transcripts and then they're
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Speaker 5: going to write a letter to the court.
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Speaker 6: But again, everybody is really taken back and wondering what's
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Speaker 6: going on. But as soon as I hear more, you
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Speaker 6: will be the first to hear.
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Speaker 2: You know, Tisa tails joining us from outside the Monahan
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Speaker 2: Federal Courthouse in Manhattan, where Shawn Cobs is facing a
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Speaker 2: multi count federal indictment, including rico and sex trafficking charges.
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Speaker 1: Tisa, I find it to.
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Speaker 2: Be more than a coincidence that Shawn Combs has just
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Speaker 2: been rebuked by the judge for communicating with the jury
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Speaker 2: and now the state wants a particular juror thrown off
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Speaker 2: the case. This is a big deal in the legal
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Speaker 2: world for a GURR to be thrown off. And I
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Speaker 2: want to get back to the importance of Jane not
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Speaker 2: her real name testimony, but this is important. Something has
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Speaker 2: happened that's significant that it's critically enough for the state
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Speaker 2: to want a GURR removed following on the heels of
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Speaker 2: Seawn Cohm's being rebuked and threatened to be thrown out
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Speaker 2: a court for communicating with the jury. From what you
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Speaker 2: can tell, has he been communicating with even if nonverbally?
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Speaker 1: You're number six, I think.
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Speaker 5: And this is my opinion from what I've observed from
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Speaker 5: his body language, I think there's a real case to
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Speaker 5: be made that he has.
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Speaker 6: Been communicating nonverbally.
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Speaker 5: I don't think not just with jural number six.
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Speaker 6: I think with all the jurors.
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Speaker 5: Now, why did they particularly focus on jural number six?
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Speaker 6: Again, people have said things, you know in the juris selection.
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Speaker 5: Information was given, things that they do with their home,
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Speaker 5: things around them was giving.
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Speaker 6: It has been the whole jury that was the issue.
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Speaker 5: De nodding, the head, waiting, the silent as the prosecution
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Speaker 5: could describe the silent communication during number six.
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Speaker 6: I will say in the.
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Speaker 5: Testimony with prior victims Mia, especially a little bit with Cassie,
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Speaker 5: there was definitely some type of second skepticism that from
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Speaker 5: the first row I could see that actually spilled out
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Speaker 5: into the second row.
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Speaker 6: Again, I agree with you, this is a huge deal.
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Speaker 5: But again the issue is what specifically put during number
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Speaker 5: sixual the edge that we could maybe make a case
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Speaker 5: that the first roles one and two, certain jurors were
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Speaker 5: actually doing the same thing.
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Speaker 6: So again it makes you wonder, did that.
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Speaker 5: Silent communication turn into something more tangent? Did he is
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Speaker 5: in jail for doing the unthinkable and by will things
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Speaker 5: that we can say that the average person would say
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Speaker 5: is not only unthinkable.
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Speaker 6: It's just not smart. So because he is currently locked
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Speaker 6: up in the NBC for that. On Diddy's side, I
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Speaker 6: want to under.
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Speaker 5: Believe that if the past can show you what the
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Speaker 5: president and the future will hold, this is not.
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Speaker 6: Out of his range of tools he would use.
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Speaker 5: However, I find it so hard to think that a
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Speaker 5: juror would actually take that step and do something that
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Speaker 5: could jeopardize the trial, jeopardize their freedom, and just jeopardize
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Speaker 5: the sanctity of bes D And why again we are
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Speaker 5: locked in again? But what is that extra step that
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Speaker 5: had for prosecution so worried and concerned.
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Speaker 2: Straight out to Lauren Conlin, investigative reporter, star of Pop
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Speaker 2: Crime TV, joining us also at the courthouse. Lauren Conlin
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Speaker 2: Jane not her real names testimony is critical for so
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Speaker 2: many reasons, not stand alone, but because it bolsters Cassie
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Speaker 2: Ventura's testimony.
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Speaker 1: As a matter of.
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Speaker 2: Fact, Jane testifies to being with Sean Combs when the
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Speaker 2: CNN video of the Intercontinental Hotel beat down goes to air.
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Speaker 8: What happened, particularly about the CNN video of Sean Colmes
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Speaker 8: beating up Cassie and the fact that Jane was there
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Speaker 8: when he found out. She describes that they were sleeping
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Speaker 8: in bed one of his sons came knocking on the
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Speaker 8: door to tell him this, and he pretty much spent
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Speaker 8: the entire day with family and friends in kind of
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Speaker 8: a huddle figuring out what to do. And Jane describes
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Speaker 8: being at the breakfast table. She was about to eat
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Speaker 8: breakfast and then she saw the video on the news
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Speaker 8: herself and she lost her appetite. She also describes kind
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Speaker 8: of being in a part of that huddle towards the
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Speaker 8: end of the day when Seawan Colmes was trying to
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Speaker 8: figure out this apology and what he would say.
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Speaker 1: Back to Tisa.
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Speaker 2: Tales also joining us at the courthouse, Tisa that apology
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Speaker 2: video that Jane was there when Comes brings in the
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Speaker 2: family advisors her. They talked to a lawyer about doing
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Speaker 2: the apology video, and it seems as if Seawan Colmes
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Speaker 2: was instructed not to use Cassie's name, and I think
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Speaker 2: I know why because it would be somewhat of an admission.
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Speaker 2: So tell me about Jane's test cnemony about her helping
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Speaker 2: construct that apology video that Shawn Seawn Comes disseminated on
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Speaker 2: social Now.
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Speaker 5: One of the most shocking things that came out about
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Speaker 5: in the courthouse was, as you know, his apology video
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Speaker 5: was largely well just received, not well received because people
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Speaker 5: thought that.
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Speaker 6: It was disrespectful because he never said Cassie's name. We
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Speaker 6: found out.
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Speaker 5: And it was super shocking by a Mark Agnofilio that
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Speaker 5: he was the one that said, take Cassie's name out
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Speaker 5: of there because.
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Speaker 6: She may well be a grand jury witness.
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Speaker 5: And already they were forward thinking that they didn't want
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Speaker 5: to look like they were in any way tampering that.
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Speaker 6: Now, what does that tell us?
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Speaker 5: It tells us, and it told the courtroom largely he
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Speaker 5: knew how much trouble he was in, and he knew
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Speaker 5: Jane was one of the only people that could either
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Speaker 5: testify right as the current he's a great guy, or
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Speaker 5: put a nail in his coffin. And that's why it
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Speaker 5: was so shocking that people, as.
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Speaker 6: Their testimony went on.
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Speaker 5: That you know, this woman has your freedom in her hands,
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Speaker 5: but its nature couldn't be denied, and he proceeded to
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Speaker 5: treat her even more cruelly, even more shocking. Again, it
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Speaker 5: was very strategic having around, having her around the family,
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Speaker 5: having her lawyers, paying for her lawyers, making sure sure
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Speaker 5: that there was nothing that could she would be under.
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Speaker 6: The umbrella of employee privilege. I'm sorry, non employee of
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Speaker 6: legal privilege.
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Speaker 5: However, however, it looks like they somehow misplayed that because
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Speaker 5: here we are again in court and Jane is right
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Speaker 5: now having Diddy's freedom in her hands.
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Speaker 2: I love the way that you explain that kind of
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Speaker 2: keeping her in the fold so she would use his
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Speaker 2: lawyer that he paid for so he could still keep
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Speaker 2: a tab on her. And she was very quick to
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Speaker 2: point out tsa that she did not speak to investigators
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Speaker 2: before she testified at the grand jury, that she didn't
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Speaker 2: cooperate with them. She was only there because she was
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Speaker 2: subpeated forced to be there, and that's after speaking to
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Speaker 2: the lawyer Shawn.
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Speaker 1: Colmes provided for her.
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Speaker 2: Now, I want everybody to look at what Teasa tells
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Speaker 2: us talking about the apology video.
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Speaker 1: Jane the witness, was there when the family and the
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Speaker 1: lawyers are all trying to figure.
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Speaker 2: Out what are we going to say in the way
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Speaker 2: of the Cassie beat down video.
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Speaker 1: This is critical watch.
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Speaker 9: It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in
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Speaker 9: your life. Sometimes you got to do that. I was
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Speaker 9: fucked up, I mean I had rock bottom, but I
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Speaker 9: made no excuses my behavior on that video is inexcusable.
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Speaker 9: I take full responsibility for my ashes in that video.
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Speaker 1: I'm disgusted.
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Speaker 9: I was disgusted then when I did it. I'm disgusting now.
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Speaker 9: I went and I sought out professional help. Now to
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Speaker 9: go into therapy. We're going to rehab. I had to
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Speaker 9: ask God for his mercy and grace. I'm so sorry,
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Speaker 9: but I'm committed to be a better man usin every day.
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Speaker 9: I'm not asking for forgiveness. I'm truly sorry.
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Speaker 1: I really don't even know what to say. That.
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Speaker 2: That's from Duty's official instagram accept technical legal term bs
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Speaker 2: BS therapy my rear end rehab really and then asking
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Speaker 2: God to forgive him?
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Speaker 1: Whoa whoa woe?
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Speaker 2: Tisa tells, isn't it true according to the witness who
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Speaker 2: is under oath and would be committing perjury if she's
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Speaker 2: lying that?
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Speaker 1: After here apology.
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Speaker 2: Video, he then goes on to beat Jane so badly
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Speaker 2: that in one case he broke down the door and
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Speaker 2: she has video of that and the jury saw it. Now,
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Speaker 2: this is when he's trying to be a better man again,
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Speaker 2: objection my red end, that's a lie, be a better man.
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Speaker 6: He beat her to Helen back.
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Speaker 1: Is that when he's a better man, tore down the
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Speaker 1: door again. Objection, my rae end what.
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Speaker 6: Happened in court when Jane Do testified.
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Speaker 5: We all knew the violence was coming, but nobody knew
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Speaker 5: what was going to be a scene out of the
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Speaker 5: shining to hear that little bunny rabbit talk about. Yes
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Speaker 5: she threw a glass, Yes she threw a candle, and
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Speaker 5: then she went on a chase through her house. She
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Speaker 5: ran to the bedroom door, realizing quickly she made a mistake,
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Speaker 5: locked the door.
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Speaker 6: He kicked in.
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Speaker 5: The door again. These are expensive, heavy doors. She even
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Speaker 5: said it was so much to fix she couldn't afford it, which,
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Speaker 5: by the way, he gave her the money to fix
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Speaker 5: these doors in cash in an unmarked brown paper bag,
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Speaker 5: which seems to be the Diddy special. Let's see what
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Speaker 5: the IRS has to say about this. You know, but
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Speaker 5: he kicked in one door, right it was.
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Speaker 6: She ran to the bathroom. He kicked in the door
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Speaker 6: to the bathroom.
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Speaker 5: She ran to the closet hiding and Kit was trying
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Speaker 5: to kick in the door to the.
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Speaker 6: Closet, kicked the handle, kicked the door. She did what
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Speaker 6: she could. She seriously changed into a dress she could
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Speaker 6: run in.
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Speaker 1: He kicked that in.
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Speaker 10: She ran out the house barefoot, two six blocks barefoot
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Speaker 10: in a dark southern California evening, you know how dark
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Speaker 10: it gets in and she hid for about two hours,
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Speaker 10: hoping that he would calm down.
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Speaker 6: And go away.
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Speaker 5: At the end of two hours, she came back, still
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Speaker 5: scared out of her mind, and came back, and that
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Speaker 5: demon was still waiting for her.
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Speaker 6: And the violence she actually said he went through.
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Speaker 5: It broke our hearts, but it actually shocked and mind
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Speaker 5: you why we're listening to the violence that was to come.
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Speaker 5: The apology video is still fresh in our minds, Cassie
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Speaker 5: is still set fresh in our minds. When I say
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Speaker 5: he painted him all his own self out to be
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Speaker 5: a liar. It was shocking and groundbreaking just how damaging
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Speaker 5: her testimony was to him.
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Speaker 11: Their relationship never recovered after that night, both of them
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Speaker 11: agreeing to no longer see each other romantically. Comb sent
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Speaker 11: her roughly twelve thousand dollars for the damages to her
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Speaker 11: home and to cover Antoine's payment. Jane never fixed the
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Speaker 11: four doors Combs kicked in, but the jury saw photos
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Speaker 11: of the damages and videos of Combs and Jane discussing
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Speaker 11: her injuries from that night. The video captured bruising around
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Speaker 11: her eye and a welt on her forehead visible through
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Speaker 11: the makeup on her face, all.
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Speaker 2: For off a balcony. Like he's the villain in a
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Speaker 2: movie The Sopranos.
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Speaker 1: It is like he was a film director.
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Speaker 4: He plots his life out almost like his different episodes.
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Speaker 12: He has grabbed everybody's attention in his life.
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Speaker 1: He lives his life like it's a movie.
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Speaker 2: Is he grabbing the attention of GERR number six and more?
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Speaker 2: After Combe's rebuked for communicating in court with the gurrrs,
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Speaker 2: suddenly GERR number six is under threat of being thrown
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Speaker 2: off the jury at the request of the state. No
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Speaker 2: ruling yet, the defense is fighting it. Tisa Tal's joining
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Speaker 2: me from the courthouse, investigator and commentator hosts of Tisa
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Speaker 2: Tel's on YouTube. That's where I found her, Tisa tales,
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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us and braving the elements.
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Speaker 1: Tisa.
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Speaker 2: In court, we hear the witness as you described as
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Speaker 2: a baby bunny getting tortured, saying and heartbreaking words to.
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Speaker 1: Me, I am not an animal.
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Speaker 2: The fact that this woman was brought to the point
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Speaker 2: where she says I'm not an animal.
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Speaker 1: What happened tsa.
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Speaker 6: So what happened broke all our hearts.
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Speaker 5: She was treated worse than an animal, She was treated subhuman.
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Speaker 6: Okay.
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Speaker 5: She was forced to hide for two hours, six blocks
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Speaker 5: away from our house in the bitious, barefoot, for fear
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Speaker 5: of what this man would do.
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Speaker 6: Okay.
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Speaker 5: She finally made her way back to the house over
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Speaker 5: two hours later, and when she walked in that house,
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Speaker 5: she saw Sean walking to water. Now, at this point
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Speaker 5: she was praying everything would be okay, and it seemed
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Speaker 5: like it might have been, and they went into the house.
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Speaker 6: Okay.
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Speaker 5: All of a sudden, there is some argument over another person.
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Speaker 6: She actually calls.
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Speaker 5: Him a pedophile, even though the prosecution is quick to
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Speaker 5: say that the girl was over eighteen. But to Jane Doe,
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Speaker 5: she said, if she's not old enough to buy drinks,
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Speaker 5: what are you doing with her?
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Speaker 6: She is a child.
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Speaker 5: An argument starts over that, and the most insane thing
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Speaker 5: I can never think of starts. She all of a sudden,
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Speaker 5: things she feels all the resentment rise up in her,
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Speaker 5: she feels all the ways he's played her for a fool,
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Speaker 5: and she starts throwing candles out on the mind of
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Speaker 5: the candles old hit him, but the wax is hitting him.
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Speaker 5: And if you think about what Diddy's into, I would
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Speaker 5: have thought he would have liked a little wax splashing
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Speaker 5: going helm. But this enraised him, This embraised him, and
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Speaker 5: he went after her.
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Speaker 6: She took off.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 5: Now, one important detail that I overlooked was the fact
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Speaker 5: that when she was trying to make away.
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Speaker 1: Out the house.
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Speaker 6: How could I overlook that he literally was.
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Speaker 5: When he was kicking through the doors. He kicked the
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Speaker 5: four doors again. The drury was shocked leaning in. There
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Speaker 5: were door heavy wooden doors splintered in. Okay, when she
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Speaker 5: ran to leave the house, he literally kicked her that
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Speaker 5: same strength that knocked through four doors. He kicked her
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Speaker 5: again and hit her in the thigh. She fell down.
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Speaker 5: She literally still tried to crawl away. This monster lifted
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Speaker 5: her up in a choke hold. She remembers her little
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Speaker 5: toes dangling. She's barefoot, her little toes dangling while he
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Speaker 5: is trying to choke her and make her submit. She
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Speaker 5: didn't know what was gonna do, right. She then threw
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Speaker 5: He then threw her down.
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Speaker 6: And while this is happening, Okay, the woman, the child
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Speaker 6: of the little girl because she's not a lift to
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Speaker 6: buy drinks.
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Speaker 5: According to Jane Do is on the phone for rating her,
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Speaker 5: and Diddy is letting that happen while she is being
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Speaker 5: kicked and pummeled. Finally, Jane Do yelled out, he's beating
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Speaker 5: my ass right now, and that's when the phone went
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Speaker 5: to the phone got cut off.
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Speaker 6: But let me just say this, It wasn't over.
21:11
Speaker 5: And you would think this monster would have had enough,
21:14
Speaker 5: but again, I guess.
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Speaker 6: He's built for this.
21:16
Speaker 5: She then said she felt so exhausted, more exhausted than
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Speaker 5: she's ever thought in her life.
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Speaker 6: As she went into the shower.
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Speaker 5: I would imagine to try to focus, to try to
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Speaker 5: center herself, to try to really.
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Speaker 6: Just be like, what is going on in my life?
21:29
Speaker 5: Okay, she's in the shower, and she says that she
21:32
Speaker 5: is naked, as you would expect.
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Speaker 6: However, why was that such important detail?
21:37
Speaker 5: She says, She turned around and this demon is standing
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Speaker 5: in the shower. What comes into the shower with her?
21:44
Speaker 5: And it's just standing there. He's not under the water,
21:47
Speaker 5: he's in the shower away from the water, and he
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Speaker 5: is wearing clothes, he is wearing pants, and he sits
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Speaker 5: there in the shower watching her.
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Speaker 6: She's startled. He turns around. Boom, He's small in the face.
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Speaker 6: She cuts caught off guard. He snacks her again.
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Speaker 5: She gets caught off guard, smacks her again the third
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Speaker 5: time of all his strength and knocks her to the ground. Okay,
22:13
Speaker 5: knocks her to the drowned. It was traumatic. And you guys,
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Speaker 5: that was only act too. There was more violence that unfolded.
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Speaker 5: There was more violence that unfolded again. This testimony was
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Speaker 5: shocking and it uphold everybody in the courtroom.
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Speaker 6: I cannot underlying that enough. How uphold everybody was to
22:33
Speaker 6: hear this.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 2: So Greg Morse joining me, veteran trial lawyer, criminal defense
22:48
Speaker 2: attorney joining us out of the poem. Beaates jurisdiction, author
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Speaker 2: of Untested on Amazon at morselegal dot com. So you're
22:56
Speaker 2: still saying it's just a tiff between boyfriend girlfriend, Well it's.
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Speaker 13: The James testimony. If I didn't know who called her,
23:03
Speaker 13: I would think the defense called her. Her testimony wasn't
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Speaker 13: supportive of sex trafficking. It was supportive of battery, maybe
23:10
Speaker 13: aggravated battery.
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Speaker 1: But this is a sex trusting.
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Speaker 13: Well, I know it's not people that the day before
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Speaker 13: Shawn Combs is arrested, they go and have a hotel
23:19
Speaker 13: night with them. They want to rub their feet in afterwards.
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Speaker 13: These are women that made bad choices to with the
23:26
Speaker 13: sex stuff, but none of their testimony says that the
23:29
Speaker 13: violence was to force them into it. She only got
23:33
Speaker 13: angry when she thought Seawn Comes was actually sleeping with
23:36
Speaker 13: another person. She still had her rent paid. That was
23:39
Speaker 13: her main concern when the employment separated. She testified to that.
23:44
Speaker 13: So while Seawn Combs is a horrible, weak human being
23:47
Speaker 13: and disgusting, the prosecution charged this as sex trafficking, and
23:51
Speaker 13: the defense has to be very happy with what would
23:54
Speaker 13: have been much worse testimony that Jane gave them. The
23:57
Speaker 13: things they said in opening that this was an angry person,
24:01
Speaker 13: This was someone maybe you wouldn't do these type of
24:04
Speaker 13: sex acts and these type of partying, but these women.
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Speaker 3: Intentionally did it.
24:09
Speaker 13: They only got angry after the fact. And that's what
24:12
Speaker 13: we're seeing here. And as far as the sex trafficking case, unfortunately,
24:15
Speaker 13: these aren't victims of sex trafficking. Real victims of sex
24:19
Speaker 13: trafficking don't rub their captor's feet unless they're forced too.
24:22
Speaker 13: They don't get their rent paid when they don't live
24:24
Speaker 13: with the person. That's just not how it goes. So
24:27
Speaker 13: he's a horrible human. But the defense got some good
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Speaker 13: stuff to work with in Jane's testimony and the mistrial.
24:34
Speaker 13: That's probably because Sean looked at the juror and the
24:37
Speaker 13: prosecution got excited and tried to make a big deal
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Speaker 13: of it. So you know these things happening.
24:42
Speaker 2: Sorry, the mistake motion was by the defense. I believe
24:45
Speaker 2: it's the third one they've made that threw ones the
24:48
Speaker 2: men shot down. So doctor Bethanie Marshall, say, did you
24:51
Speaker 2: hear everything that Greg Morris just said? Say, that's the problem,
24:55
Speaker 2: that is the problem. You just heard Tisa tails and
24:59
Speaker 2: she's got a lot more to tell us about the
25:03
Speaker 2: beatings over and over, tearing down four doors to get
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Speaker 2: at the victim. And she's about to tell you about
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Speaker 2: all the written communications that Jane stands going, I don't
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Speaker 2: want to do this. I don't want to do this
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Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, Bethy.
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Speaker 1: Well, listen, listen to this.
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Speaker 14: Jane sends texts I don't want to be used and
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Speaker 14: locked in a room to perform and fulfill your fantasies.
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Speaker 14: I'm not a porn star. I'm not an animal. Coming
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Speaker 14: to the realization of what this really is. When Combs replies,
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Speaker 14: she's the only one who can bring him peace, Jane
25:37
Speaker 14: snaps back.
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Speaker 1: Introduce her to Pee.
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Speaker 14: It's not me, it's the entertainment that puts you a
25:43
Speaker 14: piece Pee referred to one of the entertainers, Paul.
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Speaker 2: When a woman is beaten and beaten and beaten and
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Speaker 2: dragged and hiding in the bushes and riding, I am
25:55
Speaker 2: not an animal. I don't want to be locked in
25:58
Speaker 2: a room and forced to perform sex tricks while you watch.
26:04
Speaker 2: That is not consensual sex. Well, Nancy, she's saying no.
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Speaker 12: No means no. Even adolescents know that. Now in our society,
26:15
Speaker 12: she is saying no. And he kicks down four doors.
26:19
Speaker 12: And let me tell you something, Nancy, when a person
26:22
Speaker 12: is enraged or having a rage attack, it takes only
26:26
Speaker 12: twenty minutes for the admigned delight to calm back down again.
26:29
Speaker 12: In other words, he could have controlled himself. He could
26:32
Speaker 12: have walked out that door, walked around the block, taken
26:36
Speaker 12: a pause, taken a beat, but he enjoyed beating her.
26:40
Speaker 12: This was a sadistic beat down which tells me that
26:44
Speaker 12: he was in full.
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Speaker 6: Control of her.
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Speaker 1: I doubt she.
26:47
Speaker 12: Could have gotten away even though she was trying. He
26:50
Speaker 12: beat her within an inch of her life and let
26:53
Speaker 12: her live so he could sex traffick her even more
26:56
Speaker 12: if these allegations are true. So we keep talking about
26:59
Speaker 12: how women don't get away from men like this. This
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Speaker 12: is the tale, this unfolding right now. If anyone has
27:06
Speaker 12: any doubt about women staying with men who abuse them
27:09
Speaker 12: or sex traffic them, just listen to the story and
27:12
Speaker 12: ask yourself if Jane could have left or if she
27:16
Speaker 12: was afraid for her life with me.
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Speaker 2: Danny Pinter Out of Washington, Senior vice president, Director of
27:21
Speaker 2: Law Center National Center on Sex Exploitation. Danny, I'm reading
27:27
Speaker 2: directly from the code. Sex trafficking involves exploiting a person
27:32
Speaker 2: for sex acts through force, fraud, coercion, recruiting, harboring, transporting, providing,
27:38
Speaker 2: obtaining a person for sex exploitation, regardless of whether it's force,
27:44
Speaker 2: fraud or coercion.
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Speaker 1: Bam.
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Speaker 2: I've never seen a case fit into sex trafficking definitions
27:50
Speaker 2: more than this one.
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Speaker 15: You had the nail on the head, Nancy. This is
27:54
Speaker 15: classic sex trafficking and the prosecution doesn't have to prove force, fraud,
27:59
Speaker 15: and corsion. They can prove any one of them. But
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Speaker 15: I completely agree with you that every single one is present.
28:06
Speaker 15: You could ask any law enforcement agency that investigates sex
28:10
Speaker 15: trafficking and they have a word for what Sean Combs
28:14
Speaker 15: is doing. It's called romeo pimping. Literally, very often sex
28:19
Speaker 15: trafficking victims rub the feet voluntarily of their captors. Very
28:23
Speaker 15: often they believe they're in love, and part of that
28:26
Speaker 15: loving relationship, the trafficker uses against them. And here we
28:30
Speaker 15: have force with all the violence, we have fraud, where
28:34
Speaker 15: we heard in Jane Doe's testimony that Diddy lured her in,
28:38
Speaker 15: groomed her with this big romantic relationship. It started off
28:43
Speaker 15: very classic. He's taking on vacations. It was loving, it
28:46
Speaker 15: was kind, it was gentle. This didn't start with freak offs.
28:49
Speaker 15: He slowly introduces that that's fraudulent. And then we have
28:53
Speaker 15: so many examples of coercion, as you stated, and as
28:57
Speaker 15: a doctor pointed out, many times she said she does
29:00
Speaker 15: want to do this. Sean knew she didn't want to
29:02
Speaker 15: do this, but he kept pushing her. And we know
29:04
Speaker 15: it's coercion because the definition of coersion under the statute
29:08
Speaker 15: is that using a scheme or a pattern to make
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Speaker 15: the victim believe that if they didn't comply, serious harmon
29:15
Speaker 15: would come to them.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 3: He's not used to being told no.
29:30
Speaker 2: And he throws a major tantrum because he can.
29:34
Speaker 4: I've seen him get so angry that he looks like
29:37
Speaker 4: he's about to pass out.
29:39
Speaker 3: The veins in his neck.
29:40
Speaker 2: Pop in the kickings, the beatings, the draggings.
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Speaker 3: He just can't believe that somebody says no to you.
29:48
Speaker 3: He can't believe it.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back joining us at the Monahan Federal.
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Speaker 2: Courthouse is Tisa tells investigator commentator, host of Tisa Tails
29:59
Speaker 2: on you Tube where I found her, Tisa again, thank
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Speaker 2: you for being with us. I want to outline for
30:05
Speaker 2: Greg Morris, who obviously does not know the definition of
30:09
Speaker 2: sex trafficking or coercion, a point where Tisa Jane was
30:15
Speaker 2: in the bath, in the shower vomiting after being forced
30:20
Speaker 2: to have sex with three male sex workers. Let's just
30:23
Speaker 2: get that mental image for a moment, having another eighteen
30:27
Speaker 2: hour sex marathon on video, which later she was threatened
30:32
Speaker 2: with by the way, and then so disgusted, she starts vomiting,
30:37
Speaker 2: comes comes in, make sure she's through vomiting, and then
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Speaker 2: he's happy because he wants.
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Speaker 1: Her to get back in the ring. Tell me what happened, Tisa.
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Speaker 5: What happened was this is a time that she said
30:50
Speaker 5: that she wanted to have a sobriety because she felt like,
30:53
Speaker 5: much like Cassie, she was sliding down.
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Speaker 6: The road with pills, trills, tricks, whatever. Did he want it? Okay?
31:00
Speaker 5: She literally arranged to have one heavily endowed man.
31:05
Speaker 6: After the other were by the way.
31:07
Speaker 5: She wasn't allowed to use any type of protection.
31:11
Speaker 6: Again, the pain was the point. And after she crawled
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Speaker 6: into that bathroom and she.
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Speaker 2: Bonded, wha wha wha wait wait wait wait wait.
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Speaker 1: Wait I didn't hear the part about the penises. Did
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Speaker 1: not hear that part? Yeah?
31:26
Speaker 2: Stop stop okay, I'm going to need a shrink after
31:29
Speaker 2: this and a shower myself. I'm gonna spray myself with
31:34
Speaker 2: lysol my ears after hearing this start start that over.
31:37
Speaker 2: What did you say about the penises? This is not
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Speaker 2: about sex. This is about trying to hurt Jane.
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Speaker 6: This was about hurting Jane.
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Speaker 5: Did he have three requirements as far as I can see,
31:50
Speaker 5: One the woman must suffer. Two they could not use protection,
31:54
Speaker 5: and three the escort the pain.
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Speaker 2: When you say protection, hey did you couldn't allow Jane
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Speaker 2: to have the sex worker use condoms. They had to
32:06
Speaker 2: have your protected sex to make Shawn Combs over in
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Speaker 2: the corner masturbating happy.
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Speaker 6: Listen when he saw that rubber, it killed his vibe.
32:14
Speaker 6: He demanded he.
32:15
Speaker 5: Needed to see that Willie free, okay, and then he
32:19
Speaker 5: literally after that.
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Speaker 16: The third requirement was that they must be well, well, well,
32:25
Speaker 16: heavenly heavily endowed, to the point of both victims.
32:31
Speaker 6: Actually said that they were always in pains.
32:33
Speaker 2: Afterward, the words were in the courtroom heavily and down.
32:38
Speaker 6: Even above the way they looked in the face.
32:40
Speaker 5: He was only concerned with the side below the waist
32:43
Speaker 5: again did he went after But let me just say
32:46
Speaker 5: something to your man.
32:48
Speaker 2: He laffable in a way the way we're talking about it.
32:52
Speaker 2: But just think about the victim begging. I want him
32:56
Speaker 2: to at least use a condom, and I would actually
33:00
Speaker 2: make Seawan Coms mad.
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Speaker 5: It will not only make him mad, it would make
33:04
Speaker 5: him enraged.
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Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, and prior testimony.
33:08
Speaker 5: She told about the fact where there was a guy
33:11
Speaker 5: and he was stinky and dirty and he was sweating
33:15
Speaker 5: all over and she begged, can I please use a
33:19
Speaker 5: kind She didn't want this guy touching her, touching her.
33:22
Speaker 5: She just remembers sweat dripping on her face. There was
33:24
Speaker 5: another time that she begged to use a condom and
33:27
Speaker 5: he was standing behind the entertainer giving her the look
33:30
Speaker 5: of like you better go, don't mess this up for me,
33:33
Speaker 5: and was signaling through violent body language and very menacing looks.
33:38
Speaker 5: Cut it out, just do it, and she actually ended
33:41
Speaker 5: up doing it. But again, even when they get into
33:45
Speaker 5: everything that happened, you gotta talk about them before, Nancy,
33:48
Speaker 5: because no one's talking about that, no offense to our
33:51
Speaker 5: esteemed to your esteem, guest, But what makes a real
33:55
Speaker 5: victim when you see them and you're at the funeral,
33:58
Speaker 5: when they're as a vegetable in the hospital, people are
34:01
Speaker 5: being beat and stumped. Just an inch away can make
34:04
Speaker 5: someone paralyzed. But let's talk about the real victims. Since
34:07
Speaker 5: people need to see an episode from Leo Nilsen taken.
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Speaker 6: Let me take you to the testimony yesterday.
34:13
Speaker 5: Jane, there just been slapped silly in the shower, two
34:18
Speaker 5: gulf sized ball knocks on her head, a black eye farming.
34:22
Speaker 5: What is did he tell her to do? I'll give
34:24
Speaker 5: you three guesses. Did he apologize?
34:26
Speaker 6: Did he run?
34:27
Speaker 5: No? He literally told her, You're not gonna f up
34:30
Speaker 5: my night. You're not gonna f up my life night.
34:33
Speaker 5: I don't know what you're doing. You better take this
34:35
Speaker 5: fing pill. Take this effing pill. He literally then forced
34:39
Speaker 5: her to take and was screaming and not going to
34:42
Speaker 5: f up my night. This is a woman that is fleet,
34:44
Speaker 5: that has been beaten, that is bruised up. He made
34:47
Speaker 5: her take the pill, and moments after just being brutally beaten,
34:51
Speaker 5: he forces her to perform with an entertainer named Antoine,
34:57
Speaker 5: and after she performed right and was brutalized and felt
35:01
Speaker 5: so dejected, he then plays this weird eyes, white shut
35:06
Speaker 5: psychological thriller where he literally then says, how can I
35:11
Speaker 5: expect you to ever be in a relationship.
35:14
Speaker 6: I can't stand you.
35:15
Speaker 5: You're a whore this year that and literally gets stressed
35:19
Speaker 5: and leaves her alone while she is in a puddle
35:21
Speaker 5: of tears alone.
35:22
Speaker 6: This guy is demonic.
35:25
Speaker 5: But I hope for everyone that's saying she's not.
35:27
Speaker 6: A real victim, then what does a real victim look like?
35:31
Speaker 2: The incredible, vast waste of luxury goods, money just throwing it.
35:40
Speaker 4: He's used to throwing money at any situation to get
35:43
Speaker 4: what he wants.
35:45
Speaker 2: With me is special guest Chris McDonough. He's a director
35:49
Speaker 2: of the Cole Case Foundation, former homicide detective, three hundred
35:54
Speaker 2: homicide investigations under his belt. Is the star of the
35:58
Speaker 2: interview room on YouTube. But for my purposes now he
36:03
Speaker 2: worked vice. You and I have seen plenty of sex
36:07
Speaker 2: trafficking cases, plenty of pimps.
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Speaker 1: What do you think about that? What do you think
36:13
Speaker 1: about that?
36:15
Speaker 17: Yeah, as Shesha said, I mean, this is the ditty
36:17
Speaker 17: special and he is a pimp in an entertainer's environment.
36:25
Speaker 17: And you know the fact that he this is classic Nancy.
36:29
Speaker 17: You've seen it so many times and this he has
36:33
Speaker 17: stripped these victims of their self identity. It's all about power,
36:38
Speaker 17: control and dominance. That is the way he keeps them
36:42
Speaker 17: in his harem. And he's able to do and say
36:46
Speaker 17: whatever he feels, whatever he wants.
36:48
Speaker 3: And remember one thing, the word there.
36:51
Speaker 17: Is what he wants, not what she needs, not what
36:56
Speaker 17: she wants, not what she desires and how to get
36:59
Speaker 17: out of the situation. He is controlling everything about the violence,
37:05
Speaker 17: about the sexual fantasy. This guy is dangerous and I'm
37:10
Speaker 17: glad he's in trial and hopefully the right outcome will
37:13
Speaker 17: come as a.
37:14
Speaker 3: Result of this.
37:15
Speaker 2: You know. Tisa TiAl is joining us at the courthouse,
37:17
Speaker 2: a star of Tisa Tales on YouTube.
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Speaker 1: Tisa this is the.
37:22
Speaker 2: Example I used out of all my sex trafficking investigations.
37:26
Speaker 2: The first one. The girl the victims fourteen just turned fourteen,
37:31
Speaker 2: and I went into a hotel room to find her.
37:34
Speaker 1: I said.
37:34
Speaker 2: I came out to the vice and I said, she's
37:37
Speaker 2: not in there. This thirty five year old women. Forty
37:39
Speaker 2: year old women in there. They went, No, it's her
37:41
Speaker 2: in the white boots. I went back in. That was
37:44
Speaker 2: a fourteen year old little girl. She looked like a
37:46
Speaker 2: thirty five year old stripper. And what made me think
37:50
Speaker 2: of it is you telling me that comes told her
37:52
Speaker 2: to stop vomiting, quit crying, and put on some makeup
37:56
Speaker 2: and get back in that she's going to have to
37:59
Speaker 2: f so and have to ask somebody, and on and on,
38:03
Speaker 2: and just her thinking about her putting that makeup back on,
38:08
Speaker 2: just like that little girl did that I represented, and
38:11
Speaker 2: that little girl, by the way, Tisa, vanished during the
38:16
Speaker 2: trial after I already struck the jury.
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Speaker 1: You don't get two bites of apple.
38:20
Speaker 2: You strike a jury on a case, you lose your
38:22
Speaker 2: victim that you can't try them again. We found her
38:28
Speaker 2: and they were convicted. But what I'm saying is making
38:32
Speaker 2: her put on that makeup on top of those bruises
38:36
Speaker 2: and those tears and her mouth tasting like vomit. I mean,
38:40
Speaker 2: how did the jury react?
38:43
Speaker 6: Listen?
38:43
Speaker 5: The jury reacted disgusting. And just to let you know,
38:46
Speaker 5: all the testimony is blurring together. There was the incidence
38:49
Speaker 5: that she testified about yesterday where after she got beat
38:53
Speaker 5: to a pulp, she had to put on makeup. And
38:55
Speaker 5: when I say that, the jury, when they heard what
38:59
Speaker 5: happened with the goal fall size, they were disgusted. A
39:03
Speaker 5: few of the women looked like were just shaking their
39:06
Speaker 5: head silently. There was a real sense of judgment. And
39:10
Speaker 5: this is looking at the photos, and unlike Cassie, she
39:14
Speaker 5: has photos. But the thing is the photos were accidental.
39:17
Speaker 5: Dinny's little scheme in my mind of keeping her clothes
39:21
Speaker 5: because she is the woman that could destroy him which,
39:23
Speaker 5: by the way, let that sink in. This woman can
39:25
Speaker 5: destroy you or it can be your redemption. And you're
39:28
Speaker 5: still brutally beating her in the coming days where he
39:31
Speaker 5: was still playing that according to Danielle the Romeo lover
39:34
Speaker 5: boy Pip situation, she was taking.
39:36
Speaker 6: Just videos of him while he was posing because he
39:40
Speaker 6: loved to be the muse.
39:42
Speaker 5: And in those videos, the camera accidentally pans over her
39:45
Speaker 5: face showing the black eyes, showing the nuts. But there
39:49
Speaker 5: was even videos that she actually had when she was
39:51
Speaker 5: taking her son for a walk with sunglasses and she
39:54
Speaker 5: accidentally just lets the camera pan and she's with her
39:57
Speaker 5: son with a black eye, trying to be a mother,
40:01
Speaker 5: just out taking her son for a walk. Again, the
40:04
Speaker 5: level of violence and dehumanization. And also from Diddy's trial,
40:09
Speaker 5: it wasn't over. He then they showed us some messages,
40:13
Speaker 5: and they showed us played voice notes where he was
40:17
Speaker 5: unrepentant and still psychologically telling her that she's not a
40:21
Speaker 5: good woman. They can't be together. This is why they
40:23
Speaker 5: can never truly be together again. So much was thrown.
40:27
Speaker 5: I'm sure it's blurring all together for the jury.
40:29
Speaker 16: You know.
40:29
Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany Marshall joining a psychoanalyst out of La, author
40:33
Speaker 2: of a deal breaker. You can see her on peacock
40:37
Speaker 2: now and she's at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Doctor
40:39
Speaker 2: Bethany questioned to you jumping off. What TSA tells is
40:43
Speaker 2: just recounted the dichotomy of her with those bruises on
40:48
Speaker 2: her face and knots on her head out trying to
40:51
Speaker 2: take her son out for a walk and be a mom.
40:55
Speaker 2: That dichotomy. But my question to you is, how is
40:59
Speaker 2: that sex? To Shaun Colmes, I don't with her in
41:04
Speaker 2: one case of vomiting after a train, with her having
41:08
Speaker 2: to put makeup on over bruises and not literally not
41:12
Speaker 2: on our head and getting back into the hotel night
41:16
Speaker 2: aka free coll aka rape, how is that sexy?
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Speaker 1: I don't see that.
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Speaker 12: So we're talking about this as sex trafficking and multiple
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Speaker 12: perversions and abuse and all of that. Why don't we
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Speaker 12: just use a much more accurate word or another word,
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Speaker 12: which is torture. So what does he do? He picks
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Speaker 12: men with the largest penises he can find, prohibits her
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Speaker 12: from using condoms, watch her vomit. That's as cruel as
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Speaker 12: he can get. And he needs to keep ratching it
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Speaker 12: up Nancy in order to maintain the sexual excitement.
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Speaker 2: And now we remember an American hero. Senior Chief Petty
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Speaker 2: Officer to Rell Horn, usked Coastguard, killed in action attempting
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Speaker 2: to intercept smugglers. He served fourteen years with the US
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Speaker 2: Coast Guard and leaves behind a grieving wife Rachel Sons,
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Speaker 2: Cad and Miller. American hero Senior Chief Petty Officer to
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Speaker 2: Rel Horne, Nancy Gray signing off Goodbye fight