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- 0:06(Transcribed by TurboScribe.ai. Go Unlimited to remove this message.) Hi, I'm Chris.
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- 1:32Our current series is Meaningful Work, Calling, Formation,
- 1:37Service, and Love.
- 1:39I want to start with a thought experiment.
- 1:42Say you're looking at two different 25-year
- 1:45-olds.
- 1:46One of them works as an elementary school
- 1:48teacher, and the other works as a sanitation
- 1:50worker, a so-called garbage man.
- 1:53And both of them are talking about their
- 1:55job.
- 1:56Which one would you anticipate might say, I
- 2:00just feel like I'm doing what I was
- 2:02born to do.
- 2:03I show up at work every day, and
- 2:05I'm just so excited to do my work
- 2:07knowing the impact that it has on people's
- 2:09lives.
- 2:11Now, if you're like me, it's a lot
- 2:13easier to imagine the teacher saying that than
- 2:15the sanitation worker.
- 2:17And so this raises a really important question.
- 2:20Is every job a calling?
- 2:22And this is a question that I've actually
- 2:25found Christians who are kind of in this
- 2:27broader conversation about faith in the workplace, they
- 2:29disagree about how to talk about this.
- 2:32They disagree about the right way to frame
- 2:33it.
- 2:33Because on the one hand, there is a
- 2:36very strong egalitarian impulse that we have in
- 2:39our society.
- 2:39And that's not a bad thing.
- 2:41In many ways, that impulse comes from Scripture,
- 2:43right?
- 2:43We think of those who are united in
- 2:45Christ are equal at the foot of the
- 2:47cross.
- 2:47There is neither Jew nor Gentile, male nor
- 2:50female, but all are one in Christ Jesus.
- 2:53That egalitarian impulse is a good thing.
- 2:55And that can lead to Christians expressing ideas.
- 2:58Like I heard the president of a Christian
- 2:59college once say it this way.
- 3:00Every calling is a Christian calling.
- 3:03Like that sanitation worker, he just needs to
- 3:05see how his job really is a calling
- 3:07from God and experience that within the warp
- 3:10and the woof of his job.
- 3:13The challenge with this way of talking about
- 3:16every calling, every job is a calling, every
- 3:18calling is a kingdom calling, is that it
- 3:21seems to not really take into account how
- 3:24some jobs are more preferable than others.
- 3:28And so in this example, it's kind of
- 3:30a white collar, blue collar divide, right?
- 3:32One person is doing something that requires a
- 3:34college degree.
- 3:35The other person is doing something that's unionized
- 3:38manual labor.
- 3:40And a lot of times when kids are
- 3:42drawing what they want to be when they
- 3:43grow up, like in a kindergarten exercise, they're
- 3:45not necessarily going to put down certain jobs
- 3:48that are kind of undesirable to do.
- 3:50Now, before you assume that every sanitation worker
- 3:54hates their jobs, there are in fact sanitation
- 3:56workers that have found incredible meaning and purpose
- 4:00in their work.
- 4:02I've talked with one of them.
- 4:03He's a friend of mine.
- 4:04That being said, you still get the sense
- 4:07that there's a difference in the experience.
- 4:09Right?
- 4:09Like it's probably if you have the right
- 4:11disposition and the right training, more pleasant to
- 4:14work with kids all day than to haul
- 4:16trash all day.
- 4:17Again, depending on the person, it might not
- 4:19be the case.
- 4:20But does our egalitarian impulse suppress some of
- 4:23the differences in experience of different kinds of
- 4:27work?
- 4:27Do people really aspire to be dishwashers or
- 4:31bus drivers in the same way that they
- 4:33might aspire to be nurses or educators?
- 4:38And so what's our, what's our way of
- 4:41addressing that imbalance while also seeing where God's
- 4:46calling can fit in every person's life?
- 4:48Because we want, we want to be true
- 4:49to the egalitarian impulse of scripture, but we
- 4:51also want to be honest about the differences
- 4:52between different kinds of jobs.
- 4:55And one thing that I've found really helpful
- 4:57is the framework that was provided by Elaine
- 5:00Howard Eklund in our previous episode from her
- 5:03book, Working for Better, that she co-authored
- 5:04with Denise Daniels.
- 5:06And in the show notes, we have this
- 5:08little kind of infographic or schematic of these
- 5:13four quadrants that Elaine and Denise kind of
- 5:16worked out as they interviewed people about their
- 5:18sense of calling in their workplace.
- 5:20So it might be kind of hard to
- 5:21visualize, but there's kind of two axes, right?
- 5:24So the horizontal axis is the sense of
- 5:27calling intrinsic to the work itself or extrinsic
- 5:31to the work itself.
- 5:32So that's kind of the question of why
- 5:35does the work matter?
- 5:36And then the vertical axis is, is the
- 5:39location of service within the workplace or beyond
- 5:43the workplace?
- 5:44So that's kind of the question, where does
- 5:46the work matter?
- 5:47So why does the work matter and where
- 5:49does the work matter?
- 5:50So kind of the most intense centralized quadrant
- 5:54would be the intrinsic within the workplace.
- 5:57And this is what the authors call work
- 5:59as a blessing from God.
- 6:01Work utilizes an individual's skills and talents.
- 6:04So why does it matter?
- 6:06Because you're uniquely suited to it.
- 6:08And where does it matter?
- 6:09Right there.
- 6:10So this is the elementary school teacher who
- 6:12says, I've got my dream job.
- 6:14I'm working with kids.
- 6:14I'm helping them build foundational skills that are
- 6:17going to help them for the rest of
- 6:18their life.
- 6:18And I love it, right?
- 6:20But you can still have that intrinsic sense
- 6:23of, OK, my work matters because of what
- 6:25the work itself is accomplishing.
- 6:26But the place of impact might be beyond
- 6:29the location, right?
- 6:30It might not be as immediate as it
- 6:32is for a nurse or a dentist or
- 6:34a teacher.
- 6:35So you could think of somebody who maybe
- 6:37works in a behind the scenes role, maybe
- 6:41like a computer programmer serving an organization whose
- 6:44mission they believe in.
- 6:45So maybe a computer programmer serving a food
- 6:49bank or a social services organization.
- 6:52The impact of their work is not right
- 6:54in their office where they do the programming,
- 6:56but it is the work itself that they're
- 6:58doing that matters in the community.
- 7:01OK, on the other side, there's extrinsic to
- 7:04the work itself.
- 7:05So seeing work as a means to an
- 7:07end.
- 7:07So, again, this could happen in the workplace
- 7:10itself, where work is a means to an
- 7:12end in the sense that the context of
- 7:14work allows the worker to serve others.
- 7:16So this is the example that Elaine shared
- 7:18of the fellow at the meatpacking plant who's
- 7:22known as Yoda to his co-workers because
- 7:24he's kind of an on-site counselor and
- 7:27advisor.
- 7:27And he talks with his co-workers about
- 7:30their life issues.
- 7:31And it's been an incredibly fruitful ministry for
- 7:33him.
- 7:34The location is his workplace.
- 7:36It's the fact that he shows up and
- 7:37goes to the meatpacking floor every day that
- 7:40allows him to do that ministry.
- 7:41And yet it has nothing to do with
- 7:42packing meat.
- 7:44And then kind of the most distant option
- 7:46would be where the location of service is
- 7:50beyond the workplace and work is also means
- 7:53to an end.
- 7:53The motivation is extrinsic.
- 7:55So that would be where you're using work
- 7:58to pay the bills so that you can
- 8:00go do other things that you believe or
- 8:02you're calling.
- 8:03So this would be like somebody who is
- 8:06serving tables at a restaurant so that they
- 8:10can go pursue an artistic career on the
- 8:12side, right?
- 8:13It's not that the serving tables job is
- 8:16intrinsically meaningful to them in a special way.
- 8:18It's not that they are finding some amazing
- 8:22kind of ministry there at the restaurant.
- 8:24It's I get a paycheck from the work
- 8:25I do here so that I can go
- 8:26do the thing that I think I'm really
- 8:27called to in the arts.
- 8:29Okay, so I want to kind of use
- 8:32this framework and then think about how do
- 8:35we find the meaning in our work?
- 8:37Again, as we think about meaningful work, there's
- 8:39both a sense of decoding meetings, seeing the
- 8:41meaning that's already there.
- 8:44And there's the work of contributing to meaning.
- 8:46What can we do to make our work
- 8:48more meaningful?
- 8:50So what I really love, and some of
- 8:53this is my personal bias, but I really
- 8:54love it when people can identify intrinsic motivation
- 8:57for their work.
- 8:58So I would suggest that even if you
- 9:01happen to fall on the side of extrinsic
- 9:03motivation, like that meatpacking plant worker or that
- 9:08artist waiting tables to take time and see
- 9:12if you can decode any intrinsic motivation for
- 9:16the work that you're doing.
- 9:17For the meatpacking plant, that ministry right there
- 9:20in the plant may be much more significant
- 9:22than the meatpacking itself.
- 9:24But even there, I would encourage that person
- 9:25to think about the significance of the meatpacking
- 9:27as meatpacking, that you're helping provide protein, which
- 9:31is vital for human nutrition, to people in
- 9:33the community.
- 9:34If there weren't meatpacking plants and other food
- 9:36plants and farms and agriculture and industry and
- 9:39grocery stores, we wouldn't thrive as a community
- 9:42in the way that we do.
- 9:44So your work in a meatpacking plant is
- 9:45deeply meaningful in and of itself.
- 9:48Same thing with waiting tables.
- 9:49People in restaurants can have life-transforming conversations.
- 9:53They can have deeply meaningful experiences of intimacy
- 9:57with friends and with family.
- 9:59The food itself, again, is meaningful in and
- 10:02of itself.
- 10:02So again, I would encourage that artist.
- 10:04It could be that their art is much
- 10:05more significant to them than serving tables.
- 10:07But to look to see if they can
- 10:08decode a sense of meaning even in the
- 10:12day job, so to speak.
- 10:14So that's one thing that I think can
- 10:16be helpful, is to look at where you
- 10:18are on these quadrants to kind of identify,
- 10:20is my motivation intrinsic or extrinsic and why?
- 10:23But then see if you can decode some
- 10:25intrinsic motivation elements about how your work itself
- 10:28matters.
- 10:29That's one way to kind of grasp additional
- 10:32meaning in your work.
- 10:33And that's not going to hurt, right?
- 10:35I've never found somebody who's like, my job
- 10:36is just too meaningful.
- 10:37I just wish it didn't matter so much,
- 10:39right?
- 10:39Like if you find an additional layer of
- 10:42meaning in your work, that's a good thing.
- 10:43You can have both extrinsic and intrinsic.
- 10:46And then there's the question of what can
- 10:49I do to make my work more meaningful?
- 10:52And this is where I think that the
- 10:54extrinsic folks are actually leading the way.
- 10:56So Yoda on the meatpacking plant, he's seeing
- 10:59his workplace as an opportunity for ministry.
- 11:02He's seeing I'm here standing next to other
- 11:04people.
- 11:04I can talk with them.
- 11:05So I would encourage you, again, regardless of
- 11:08where you are on the intrinsic extrinsic spectrum,
- 11:11to look at your work and imagine, oh,
- 11:14where are there pockets of opportunity here where
- 11:17I can do something meaningful, whether or not
- 11:19it has to do with the work itself,
- 11:21right?
- 11:21So what are the context of relationships in
- 11:24my workplace?
- 11:25Do I have somebody who I can love,
- 11:27who I can serve, whether or not that's
- 11:28in my job description?
- 11:30Again, maybe it's in a workplace where you
- 11:32have deeply intrinsically motivating responsibilities.
- 11:36You're an educator, you're serving students.
- 11:38But maybe you notice you have a fellow
- 11:40teacher from a different classroom who's going through
- 11:42a really hard time.
- 11:43Maybe the Holy Spirit's prompting you to love
- 11:45that person too, even though that's not directly
- 11:47related to doing the work with your own
- 11:49students.
- 11:50Or again, maybe it's in an extrinsic work.
- 11:53Maybe you're a sanitation worker and you're finding
- 11:56that intrinsic meaning in the community work where
- 11:59it's like, hey, if nobody was hauling this
- 12:01trash, it would be really, really bad for
- 12:02public health.
- 12:02But you're also realizing, wow, I'm paired with
- 12:05my buddy who's driving the vehicle every day.
- 12:07And maybe I can develop a conversation with
- 12:10him that speaks to his soul in some
- 12:12way.
- 12:13So again, let's lean towards the intrinsic as
- 12:16a way to kind of decode meaning that
- 12:18may already be there in our work.
- 12:20And let's take advantage of opportunities, even if
- 12:23they're extrinsic to the work itself, so that
- 12:25we can make our work more meaningful.
- 12:28Okay, now circling back to our question, is
- 12:30every job a calling?
- 12:32I think it might be more helpful to
- 12:34broaden our concept of calling, right?
- 12:36Rather than saying, again, some jobs are this
- 12:38perfect calling from God that resonates with what
- 12:41we were born to do and solves all
- 12:43of these issues in the world at the
- 12:44same place.
- 12:45And there's just one answer to everything.
- 12:47Again, as we think about the kind of
- 12:48our overlapping circles from our other episode, there's
- 12:52just one thing at the center of all
- 12:53three circles that hits it out of the
- 12:55ballpark.
- 12:56Rather than thinking of calling in that narrow
- 12:58sense of just that one thing, again, we
- 13:00can think of calling as more dynamic, as
- 13:02plural.
- 13:03God may call us to multiple kinds of
- 13:06things in our lives as we fulfill various
- 13:09responsibilities.
- 13:10So like one of our responsibilities is to
- 13:12provide for ourselves and our households, that economic
- 13:15engine.
- 13:16That is very meaningful.
- 13:17And that may be the kind of extrinsic
- 13:20sense of your work.
- 13:21So does that mean that you're called to
- 13:24your work or you're not called to your
- 13:25work, right?
- 13:25Like if it's like, I'm really just doing
- 13:27this job to get the paycheck in order
- 13:28to fulfill my spiritual responsibility to provide for
- 13:31myself or my family.
- 13:31Does that mean this job is a calling
- 13:33or not?
- 13:33I feel like it's not a very helpful
- 13:35question.
- 13:35The question is, in what way is your
- 13:38job a calling?
- 13:39That job, if it really is primarily putting
- 13:42food on the table, you're fulfilling the call
- 13:44of God to provide for your family.
- 13:46That's the calling.
- 13:47Again, the job itself may be extrinsic to
- 13:49that.
- 13:49And yet it's instrumentally how you're fulfilling that
- 13:52calling from God.
- 13:53So rather than saying, okay, some jobs are
- 13:55callings and other jobs aren't, right?
- 13:57We can say within each job, let's be
- 14:00honest about how some jobs are different than
- 14:02others.
- 14:03Some jobs provide more extrinsic motivation.
- 14:05Others provide more intrinsic motivation.
- 14:06Some jobs are impactful right there on location.
- 14:09Other jobs are impactful beyond the workplace and
- 14:11the community.
- 14:12Let's be honest about these differences.
- 14:13Let's not let our egalitarian impulse get the
- 14:15better of us and cause us to neglect
- 14:18the differences that really are there.
- 14:19Let's be honest about the differences.
- 14:20And you can be honest about whether you
- 14:21dislike your job or not too.
- 14:23But then within whatever job we have, let's
- 14:26see how the callings, plural, that God has
- 14:29in our life might be fulfilled in different
- 14:31ways within this job.
- 14:32And let's take responsibility both to decode the
- 14:34meaning that's already there and to contribute to
- 14:36the meaning as God gives us opportunity.
- 14:40Lord Jesus, thank you that you meet us
- 14:43in every detail of our lives, good, bad,
- 14:46in between, in the work that we really
- 14:48have.
- 14:49Help us to see the meaning that's there
- 14:51and help us to participate in what you're
- 14:53doing in the world.
- 14:55Help us to contribute to what really matters
- 14:57each day, whether or not it's directly part
- 14:59of our work responsibilities.
- 15:01Jesus, do your work in us as we
- 15:03do our work with you.
- 15:05Amen.
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