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United We Stand Pt.2 · The Volume Shift

• Tya Moore: either. Deion: Hold up. So sympathy or empathy won't allow No Jhalil: Not at all, Charles. Sunny: dated them. I'm sorry, I've dated them. I can't I can't say it won't for me. Tya Moore: But, but, hold on, but you can't just be cute either or you can't just be attractive either. That's not gonna hold me at all. You know what I mean? Jhalil: Yeah, real right. You gotta have the brain too, like. Sunny: You can't be cute and and and dumb as a box of rocks and think I'm gonna nah, I can't talk to you. Tya Moore: Nah. Deion: Yeah. Tya Moore: Nah. Like you can't or dumb. You know what I'm saying? Like you can't. I gotta be able to learn from my partner. I feel like that is what should be happening in a partnership. You learn from me, I learn from you. You Sunny: Yeah. Tya Moore: know what mean? I can't learn anything from you. You know I'm saying? But it Sunny: Trabalho. Tya Moore: also has to be some level of attraction. Some level doesn't mean he has to be this drop dead gorgeous man. He could be average looking. I just gotta have some level of attraction to him is what I'm saying. Deion: Not bad. Sunny: And see for me, personality when for me Tya Moore: I was joking about all the other stuff. But the point is you still Jhalil: Yeah, okay. Tya Moore: have to be attracted to your partner. Jhalil: Yeah, you got to. Tya Moore: That's all. Deion: I don't think like, all right, say that's what you want. You meet a great person and that joint ain't it don't align for them the same way. Like are we Sunny: They don't like me. Deion: missing are we missing shit because we hope we got these blockages? Tya Moore: What you mean? Deion: You just listed a bunch of sh as you went in. Sunny: Well, I'm sorry, I'm not dating anybody that that that that's not educated, so that gotta be definite. Tya Moore: No, I just said one thing. I said I gotta be attracted to him. Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: Yeah. Tya Moore: There has to be a level of attraction, whether that's humor, whether that's, there has to be something. You know what mean? I can't be around nobody and I'm watching paint dry every time I see them. Like that's not gonna work for me. I'm not that kind of person. You know what I mean? Deion: That's what I'm saying. How do you get to that space? Tya Moore: To the space of what? Deion: to get to knowing that if if you ever gonna know. Tya Moore: You gotta talk. You gotta communicate with the person. Deion: But we just said like people put on representatives and stuff like that. A lot of people say like, Tya Moore: They do. They do. So you got a pizza on this one. Deion: you don't know a person until you live with them. Sunny: And this have different conversations, all different kinds. Deion: They say you don't Tya Moore: I never! Deion: know a person until you live with them. Tya Moore: mean, that's true. Even if you get in relationship with somebody, you're going to always keep finding out stuff about them. And it could be some new stuff. Like they got some changes that was made, or they think differently, or anything like that. You never stop learning your person. You know what I mean? But you got to start somewhere. And I feel like in most cases, people can't hold on to their representatives longer than 30 days. Deion: Mm. Sunny: Well, it depends. That's that's objective 'cause like I said, I've dated somebody. Yeah. Tya Moore: In my experience, people started to show them true selves, their true selves after 30 days. I'm going tell you all this, y'all probably not going believe me, I don't have a representative. I show up as me, day one. I don't do any, I don't let people get used to anything. You know how they be like, every time we went out, she had on heels and makeup. Nah, sometimes I got on jeans and sneakers because sometimes I'm going to have on jeans and sneakers. And I don't want it to be a thing like, before you were dressing like this and then, nah, I balance it out. You're going to see me in all ways because you need to know, I need to know that you can adjust and handle each version of me and don't have this idea of who you always want me to be. That's why I always tell people I don't have a representative. I show up as me Deion: Yeah. Tya Moore: all day, every day. Good, I mean, you know, for some people that don't work, for some people that do. Women be saying that all the time. play dumb. Remember I said that before? Play dumb. Act like you don't know sports. Act like you don't know this. You know what mean? Nah, I would never do that. Because I don't even want to be with somebody who would need me to do that, because that's not who I am. That's me being a representative. A lot of people are fake. Just keeping it real. A lot of people are fake. A lot of people are showing their representatives. You know what mean? I wrote a whole book about my life. And people have been like, where can I get your book? Here you go. Where's somebody else? Probably won't want them to read it, because now they're going to know everything about me. But guess what? I would rather you did so you can say, your name. Because you're going to find out one way or another. I just wish that people would start coming that way. More people will start coming that way when it comes to who I interact with. You know what mean? They got this. I don't have this. What you see is what you get. Deion: Well Mass. Tya Moore: A lot of people have a mask, I don't Deion: Yeah. Tya Moore: have a mask. don't. They'll tell you. I don't care. I've been a podcast since 2009. I done wrote a book. I speak all the time. My life, I'm transparent. Because I believe transparent is freedom not only for me, but for the people I'm speaking to. So how many Deion: But Tya Moore: people messaged me and be like, I was going to do that. I ain't want to say it. That's going on in my life, but I ain't gonna bring it up. Why? Because it's frowned upon. As a people, we're taught to hide what we're going through, keeping in house. That's why people aren't healing, because they don't want to deal with it. They don't want to talk to nobody about it. They don't want nobody to know about it. But we're seeing it. We're seeing it in your actions. We're seeing it in your opinions and discussions. You know what I'm saying? You're not hiding it. Now, when you start dating somebody, The trauma you thought you healed from comes out. Deion: Mm-hmm. Tya Moore: Because it's easy to be healed on your own. But once you start dealing with another person, you can get triggered in a way that you didn't think was possible. You thought you was Sunny: That's facts. Tya Moore: healed from that. Sunny: That's super facts. Tya Moore: Yeah, it's a big thing. That's why I say you never stop healing, right? But if you starting off not healed at all, you already starting off wrong. Deion: Yeah. Tya Moore: So I just think these conversations are important. I always love the opportunity to have them. Cuz I think they are important. I just think a lot of people are damaged and then try and be in relationships. And then wondering why it's not working out. And then no one wanna hear from me Deion: Yeah. Tya Moore: cuz I'm not in a relationship. that don't mean I don't know what's going on. That I don't see what's going on. Deion: Yeah. I mean, I don't think people who are fake or any of that stuff. I just think like they accepted the allology of this world and they think that they sick and Tya Moore: Mmm. Deion: they they bothered, you know what I'm saying? And they don't even know that it's been a puppet master, you know what I mean? Like controlling and dictating life, like 'cause Tya Moore: Here you go. Yeah. Deion: psychology is is, you know a serious thing and so you know I could create a world where Whatever I do to you, you think like it's coming from you. Tya Moore: Yeah. Deion: You think that you because you going through it, this is how it is for you. And that acceptance allows for like live shit to just happen. You feel what I'm saying? And Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Mm. Deion: that's why I say earlier too that we don't got the luxury to pick and choose who come about in our life. for the season and reason, like we just gotta you know, muscle through and and give it whatever we we got in the help in the vein of helping each other, you feel me? 'Cause Tya Moore: To understand, yeah, I agree. Deion: Because I mean, when I look around, all I see is podcasts that talk about the Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: problems. But nobody say like, I'm I'ma do this to eliminate the problems, you get what I'm saying? Or that, you know, a Tya Moore: Yeah. Deion: lot of the problems come from the instigator. Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Deion: You know what I mean? And let's not waste no more time talking about that. Tya Moore: Right. Deion: And let's get to the real, you know. nick of it or whatever, but and like I said, you know, on a natural thing, I'm wondering though. Do people really love the negative like that? Or we just been living in it for so long Tya Moore: Thank you. Deion: that we accept it 'cause Sunny: think they get comfortable. Tya Moore: I think it's little of both. I think it's a little of both. Sunny: I think people get comfortable in the negative because it's it's safe. They they they expect it, right? Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Sunny: where they if if that's Jhalil: Okay. Sunny: what they that's all they that's not I wanna say all they know. Is that something that they know how to navigate? Like it's almost like being in survival mode. You know how to navigate survival mode, you sometimes you it's hard to get out of survival mode and just live. Because you you know what to do when you need to survive. And living is sometimes terrifying Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Sunny: for people. Or like like I said, or like I said. living in a p a place of non-toxicity is is unfamiliar to them. They they thrive off that. They can they feel comfortable. They know how to navigate that scenarios. They know like I and and I'm I'm gonna say this about me. I I had I'm I'm gonna say I'm therapy. I'm still working on it. I have this fear, like I said, that the person is gonna leave me for whatever reason, because this is what I'm used to, right? So my mindset is always like just had this discussion too about I don't like to get in arguments with the person I'm with. Not even arguments, have those hard conversations. I'm not even gonna say argument because it hasn't been. But like hard certain hard conversations are hard for me to have because it triggers the brain, like like Ty said, more to her point. It it triggers something in me to think because I my relationship history is once we have difficult conversations I don't agree with you or have a difference of opinions, you're gonna leave me. Because now I've done something wrong. Right. That's the mindset. So like I not to get into it too much, but like I had a situation where something was we had a conversation, it was a little difficult and then this person got up. And then my mind already said they're leaving. Jhalil: Mm. Sunny: He was out he he he was out mawing the grass. And I I was in Tya Moore: Listen. Sunny: I was in a state of he left and I'm just like, Well well F him, blah, blah, blah, this and the third. Only to come downstairs and go to my kitchen to rent something out and this man is mowing the grass. Tya Moore: Yeah. Sunny: He comes Jhalil: Yeah. Sunny: in, hey baby. And he comes in, hey baby, how you doing? And I'm like, or not, Jhalil: 'Cause that's that's not always that's definitely not always the case. Sunny: he ain't coming like that verbatim, but he came in and was like upbeating, happy. And I'm just like, What? And I told my therapist this, and I'm like, I didn't know how to respond to that. Cause I'm just like, I thought he left, and he back there moaned the lawn, and I felt stupid. And I was already in in in the mindset of he he left me. And he was just mowing the fucking lawn. Jhalil: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sunny: That's why she said the Tya Moore: Well, what I would say to that is you gotta give yourself grace in those situations. Because again, I said, is inevitable, right? Sunny: Yeah. Tya Moore: But here's the thing, when you're on a healing journey, you can do what you just did. You can recognize where the trigger was and why. That's the biggest thing, right? Sunny: Yeah. And then but we we and then we end up having a conversation and we end up having a conversation about it. And I was just like, I told my therapist and she kinda chuckled at me. She said, Well, how did that make you feel? I said, I felt like he he wasn't gonna leave me. Tya Moore: Right. Sunny: And she was like, Stu, this is shit, this is what you this is what happens when you deal with a grown-ass man versus the toxicity Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Sunny: you was in. And like you talking about Jhalil: All right. Sunny: years of this, and like like she said to your point, that trauma comes out unexpectedly. I'm I'm already I've been in therapy. and it's like And then I told him I I laughed and I said, Hey babe, remember that day when you blah blah blah we had the little disagreement? But it because it wasn't an argument, it's just like a regular normal conversation. No voices were raised. It just was you stand still on your tin toes about something, how you felt, and I still I felt a little different than you. And it wasn't no argument like that, but like my mind took it a whole other place. And he just smiled and he Tya Moore: Right. Sunny: said, He said, Yeah, I'm not going nowhere. And I'm just like, I Tya Moore: Bye. Sunny: all right, I love you. Come here. Jhalil: No way. Sunny: But like it takes you to a like and that's the Tya Moore: See that's what I'm talking about. That's fire. That's Jhalil: Prime of sauce, like Tya Moore: fire. Sunny: And that's the crazy part because you Tya Moore: That's fire. Sunny: you you like like to Ty's point, you can let your triggers hinder and stop you from your growth. And like that's why I said I d I didn't stop therapy because I got out of toxicity. I'm still there. Because I still need to work on me because even that reaction Tya Moore: Alright. Sunny: and the mental that I the mental state I went through and that not being into it and just like boom, right there. I had to I had Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Sunny: to, like I said, identify what I did and then Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Sunny: and talk it through. And it was like, you know, it even saying, Hey babe, I had I had this this reaction to this and even having that conversation with him after it was like, like that's something I would never do because my mind said as soon as I said something, it's like, Why would you feel that way? You're trying to you being upset. Like I'm used to a whole cuss out after the fact. Like, why would you feel that way? Like, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, I left. You know, it'll be a whole cuss out. I'll be getting cussed out because I got upset. So like that is one of my triggers. And like I I that's why I feel like when when you get into a healthy space, like I said, you can you can catch yourself on a lot of things. You won't respond toxic with toxic. You won't even and sometimes it it's not toxic. It's just you you were so programmed to think hard conversations were toxic that it's it is normal Tya Moore: Right. Sunny: conversation that you're Jhalil: Okay, this Sunny: supposed be having. And and that to me is hard to have conversations. I'm still a work in progress with other relationships in my life. with friendships like that and trying to have those hard conversations too. But like it's healthy for me to learn it through a relationship. Like, okay, so now I can go and step out and and put my big girl opinions on and have certain conversations that I know I was scared to have 'cause it might not be what I thought it was because now I made up in my head what it's gonna be and it might not even be that. Tya Moore: I mean, yeah, the whole not enough thing for me, you know, being single is prevalent a lot of times, you know. It can hit me out of nowhere, you know what I mean? It's just like, you know, you're dealing with somebody and they're like, you're amazing. you're this, you're that. But not enough. that's, you know what I mean? Like that's always what comes to your brain and society makes you feel that way. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, you do this, you do podcasting, you got a book. But where's your man? Do you have a tall man? Do have a short man? Do you have a half man? Do you have a man? You know what I'm saying? It's like, no matter how much I do, that's always going to be, okay, all of that is nice, but you're missing this, right? And that's where I think a lot of the things of me not being enough came from. I don't feel like that now, because I work really hard. to get past that and it's not even just in a romantic sense. It was in friendships I wasn't enough as a parent. I feel like I wasn't enough as a daughter. I wasn't enough as a sister, you know what I mean? And what I realized in going through this process is I was always enough for people that didn't have unrealistic expectations for me. Jhalil: Yeah. Tya Moore: Like I'm enough for them. They don't, they not enough. You need to do more for us. You Sunny: We love you. Just as you are. Tya Moore: know what I mean? You know what I mean? And yeah. Jhalil: Most of that stuff, most of that stuff is just it's you versus you. It don't even be the person on the outside. It's just it's just a you versus Tya Moore: Right, right, right. Jhalil: you like situation. Like cause that person might appreciate you. Tya Moore: Yeah, yeah. Jhalil: You feel me? You'll never like you'll be in your head, but they don't even think like that. Like you would think that bro was about to leave when he went to go mow it on. No, he he wasn't leaving. He just was de-escalating. You feel me? Like, leave you for what? Tya Moore: Right. But that's what you're used to. Jhalil: He wants you to like he wants Tya Moore: That's why I was out here. Jhalil: you to express yourself and you know like you know still sharpen still. You feel me? So we don't want just somebody Tya Moore: This is a safe space. Jhalil: we can always win and you know we having a debate and we can always no, that's not what it's about. It's about us, Tya Moore: Right. Right. Jhalil: you know, solving our debate and then coming to the the final what we gonna do. You feel me? So yeah, sorry. Always enough. Tya Moore: Nah, I agree with that. He created a safe space. You know what mean? So now you may not go there the next time because he's already reassured you. Deion: Yeah. Sunny: That he not yeah. Tya Moore: I'm not going anywhere, especially over you expressing yourself. This is, you and again, pick me behavior, I guess. But that's a lot of what women aren't doing with men. Right? Like if you say to a man, this is a safe space, you can say whatever. We need to have these hard conversations. I'm not going to throw it back in your face. You can be vulnerable here. I'm still going to respect you. That's you creating that safe space. Because a lot of men aren't going to do that Sunny: Yeah. Tya Moore: until they feel like it's a safe space, right? Because the worst thing that could happen is that you do throw it back in his face. You know what I mean? And he probably never talk to you or any other woman again. That's just how it is. But I always say, like, if you respect a man, Ain't really much he can say. He can cry in front of you, he can do whatever, the respect is still gonna be there. A lot Sunny: Therefore Tya Moore: of times it's that your women don't respect the man that they have. I keep saying that and they say, you victim blaming. Y'all keep being with women that don't respect y'all. If she don't respect you, you can't lose your job. If she don't respect you, you can't cry on her shoulder. If she don't respect you, you can't tell her how you feel about anything. Cause no no no you not a man. If I already view you as a man I'm going to always view you as a man. Period. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. I don't think it's victim blaming. But I think you do, men do have to have some accountability on the women that you're choosing. If you know you need a safe space, don't choose a woman that ain't capable against your safe space. Deion: Yeah, I think like you got Jhalil: Yeah, yeah. Deion: as a man And as a woman, like it all your relationships gonna start with you and your thinking. Tya Moore: Yeah! Deion: And as I mature, what I realize is like we not our thinking, we not our mind, we not we separate entities, like we just all in the same crib, meaning this this physical form. You get what I'm saying? In a long time, man. And currently should a lot should my mind dictate my life. You get what I'm saying? Like Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Deion: if it say masturbate enough times and I'm weak minded, I'm gonna convert to that. You get what I'm saying? Like if Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Deion: I don't stand on my tooth for as what I want in a relationship, like yeah, I'm a I'm a Be subjects to the game and cheat. You know what I mean? And that's just not you not being solid Tya Moore: Right. Deion: or understanding what you even want in a person. And I don't even know if you should even think that way. I think our whole thing been scrambled so much that like our mission from God has been tampered with so much, like that we just accepting everything that we just going through, not realizing like or thinking. Is what make it cycle back around. Tya Moore: Right. Deion: So if you go through them type of traumas, the only reason they keep revisiting, cause you keep holding on. And the thing also about trauma is ain't the same thing as the mind, the mind wanna stay relevant. So Tya Moore: Hmm. Deion: it's gonna keep reminding you of the past so it can stay relevant. And it's gonna project your future. That's where the anxiety is, right? Like It's gonna project your future on your your nervousness, your worries, that trauma type shit, so it can keep visiting. Now you I remember being like, man, I'm gonna do that shit. And then it'll prolong, and then five years later go by, and then I'm back to the same space, being like, instead of just doing it, and then by the time I got to the next five years, I'd have been done something, but I kept being back on like stuck in that cycle, like of just repeating that same thing until my mentor called it like I be having all these ideas. He like, yeah ideas like a train Tya Moore: Thank Deion: like that just keep going and you don't never stop to just let one of off. To even like, you know what I mean? But that's what the that's what the powers Tya Moore: Yeah. yeah, that's me. Deion: of bee want this like. If I'm the devil, I gotta keep you busy so that you not align with your God given mission. And that's what we're facing now with being stuck at work and all of these different things that take us away from like Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Deion: our original John. You feel what I'm saying? So I can understand Tya Moore: No, I feel that, yeah. Deion: all of that, like, and then the results will be it'll be frustrating. Tya Moore: Right. Deion: And so now we nitpicking at each other. We doing all these different things because we not aligned with. What we supposed to be doing. You get what I'm saying? Like Tya Moore: Yeah, so what you just described is a trauma bond, right? And a lot of people think trauma bond always has to be with another person. No, a lot of people are bonded to their own trauma. You got to break that bond with your own trauma or you always going to be in some form of a trauma bond. Everything you just described, that's what that is. It's a trauma bond, right? So me, You know, I'm always a person to have a process. Like I said, I went through a process of not being enough, right? I went through the healing process. I also had one about breaking trauma bonds. I didn't realize how many I had. You know what I'm saying? Especially with my own trauma. And it can get really deep where you only bonded with people over trauma. You know what I'm saying? Or, you know, your own trauma makes you bond with other people. That is deep. Or... You bind it to your trauma and that's what keeps you from trying something new. Cause it didn't work out before. So that's what I'm saying. It's a lot of levels to it. It's really deep. And I don't think a lot of people realize that they're bonded with trauma. You know what I mean? But what you just described, that's exactly what that is. When you don't, you don't want to try something or you don't want to do something or you stuck. You know what I mean? You're, yeah, you stuck. Just like a person that's stuck with somebody that they got trauma with. It's the same thing. Deion: Yeah. Tya Moore: You allow your trauma to not allow you to break free of it. Deion: Let me XL this out and we end it on this, right? Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Deion: I hear a lot of like, you know, guys, elder guys, and we talk a lot about the the youngins. You Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Deion: know what I mean? I don't wanna say Y N but the the young men, right? Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Deion: Is it the same in y'all y'all gender work like how home you know how I say it but Tya Moore: Everybody answers this question. We've been asked this question about three times. Deion: We do y'all worry do y'all gotta worry about the women and I mean the young women coming up and like are y'all doing anything or is it a conversation you know what I mean? Tya Moore: Okay, so I'ma say what I've been saying, right? My life to this younger generation is not something that they aspire, right? So if I'm trying to speak to somebody younger or whatever, they got so many people that they follow on social media that are millionaires, getting flued out, nice clothes, all this stuff. That's who they wanna follow. That's who they wanna listen to. And you know, it's a lot of phone. You know what mean? It's a lot of phone for a lot of these young kids. Deion: Well why why you why you put that on why you put that like that in the air like that? Tya Moore: What? Deion: To say it is almost like you got evidence and shit. Tya Moore: Because it's the truth. Deion: So you or you Tya Moore: I feel like it's obvious because when you encounter these young girls, they're not acting like us. Most of them are not talking like us. They're talking like baddies. They're wanting to emulate what you see on baddies. That's what I mean when I say that, you know. Deion: You just said you went through a healing process yourself. Tya Moore: I did. I did. Deion: So that's my so just remembering yourself as that age. Tya Moore: Right. But I didn't have TikTok influencers 24 years old with million dollar cribs. That's not what I was seeing. You know what I mean? So I want to follow that person with Jhalil: Yeah. Tya Moore: the younger people. I want to follow that person who has the life that I aspire to have. I don't want to listen to this woman. who single, who works a regular job, who wears regular clothes. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. It's a different type of mindset. Deion: But again, do you think you got the luxury to think that way? Tya Moore: Believe me. Deion: You think you got that luxury to think that way? Tya Moore: I mean, that's what I see and that's what I hear from younger women. Sum up. Deion: You understand what I'm saying? Like for us to not have Star: Okay. Deion: no control on us being here. We don't Tya Moore: Right? Deion: know our purpose. We don't know nothing. We s for for that now, I'm just saying, for that fact, we speak so absolute on things Tya Moore: Yeah, I do know it. I'm not saying that I wouldn't try, but it's insane. Star: you Deion: as if we as if we No, I'm just saying like. Tya Moore: I'm just giving you my opinion of what I see. That's all. Nothing Star: Okay. Tya Moore: ever applies to it at all. Nothing is one size fits all. I'm just saying that a lot of what I see from the younger women, them fighting, them wanting to, you know, we ain't worried about, you know, being with no man or getting married, we want to get flued out like this person. That's what I'm saying. I'm not speaking at absolute. I'm just speaking on... Star: Okay. Tya Moore: what I see more of, what I see more of. Star: Okay. Deion: I'm just saying like when we say stuff like that, to me we not gonna put forth nothing to counter what we talking about. Tya Moore: You ask me like Star: Thank Tya Moore: what's going on. I'm telling you what's going on. I'm telling you that even if we are to try or if we have tried, you know, talking to some women in the younger generation, that is the response from a lot of them. Of course, there are some that will listen and those are the ones that you'll keep talking to. But the other ones are going to keep saying, you know how they say like the young boys will tell, you know, older person like, I did over here, Star: Okay. Okay. Tya Moore: Like you know what I'm saying? That's the equivalent of that. They're saying that to you because there's nothing about you that they find appealing or don't want to hear what you want to say. That's what I'm saying. They choose who they want to listen to. Star: Okay. Jhalil: Yeah, that stands out to him like Yeah, I throw both sides. Deion: meaning and and those and those same and those same youngins could become those old heads twenty years later. Star: Okay. Tya Moore: Absolutely. Absolutely. But they're not there yet. You know what mean? They're not there yet. And even if you keep talking to them, they could probably eventually get there. But they're not there yet. That's why they're dismissing you, because something else... Star: Okay. Deion: That's why I keep saying you got to where you at. Tya Moore: Right. Deion: So I we can't say that we like you get what I'm saying? Like nobody told you your road that you was gonna hill and be this mature at 40. But you hear, you got there. You get what I'm saying? Like Star: Okay. Deion: you got there, you here now. You get what I'm saying? And I'm pretty sure, like, Tya Moore: Right. Star: Let this get done though. Deion: I'm pretty sure it was energy that was saying like you wasn't gonna ever be here. Get to this space you and then. Tya Moore: I agree. Deion: And I'm saying like that type of energy is the reason why I don't care if you mumble it under your breath as humans, we spiritual pupils. So if I any little inkling underneath my breath about Jalil, Can have a effect on J Love. You get what I'm saying? Tya Moore: Well yeah, I'm not saying it's too dumb. Jhalil: Even if I don't want to hear the shit at the time. Deion: No, I'm just saying like and when I speaking like Tya Moore: Yeah. Star: you Deion: I'm speaking to have a conversation, not to win a battle or anything or be right along. I'm just Star: You Tya Moore: I I don't see what you're saying. Deion: yeah, so you know. Star: You for sure wanna win battles. Deion: You think so? Tya Moore: It's sister! Deion: I mean, for real, for real, I just been asking questions for y'all to get the Tya Moore: We messin' with you, we messin' with you. Star: Whatever someone gives you you use twist the question a little bit more So then then they give you the next answer then you twist it a little bit more again. Yeah, you want to win a bad sure And Deion: Well. But you think it's for me? Jhalil: Mm-hmm. Star: then when they up with it this the answer again, then you bring God into it every time That's not what God Deion: You think it's for me or for the Star: wants you to do and then we really got to agree with you because we don't want to disappoint God Yeah, that's what you be doing Deion: That sounds like white supremacy, right? But like, Sunny: No, that don't sound like white supremacy. That sounds like humble facts. But we we gonna let you this no, no, you understood Tya Moore: Lord. Yeah, I think I didn't understand the question. Star: That's what that was. Sunny: no, I I feel like you did understand the question that he asked. Tya Moore: No, I don't think I did. I don't think, the way that he, Star: You understood the question, he twisted it 1,500 times, and killed people in the bedroom. Tya Moore: yeah, the way that you asked it, I thought you was asking me like why, you know, certain things are happening with the younger generation. Sunny: No, he did. He Tya Moore: And I was just giving you some insight on that. I'm not saying it's a lost cause or I'll never speak to a young person. I'm just, I was just expressing the challenges in doing so. Sunny: No, Tyre. You you you you answered the question from the begin You answered it. Deion: Yeah, I can't I can't Star: And once you express that, then he said, well, how do you know that what you was called here to do and what's your purpose in life and your God given purpose, because he had to bring God into it, because he needed to win. Sunny: Nah, 'cause you 'cause Deion: okay. Sunny: you definitely answered the question that he asked. 'Cause even if even if you ask anyone if me or star, same thing. Star: You did. And I was about to answer it too, but then I was like, yeah, he, he, he, he, he, as soon as I answer, he gonna bring God into it at the end. Sunny: Say yeah. He Jesus is always in the in the conversation. Tell him what you want. Star: This isn't going to mainline. Jhalil: Yo, can I chime in real quick too? Cause like, Tya Moore: Yes. Star: doors. Did God say that you could come in Jhalil: all right, I I feel exactly what you were saying, Tyya. Like, all right, it's like, yeah, Deion: Yeah. Jhalil: we we can, you know, we can express our thoughts Tya Moore: in the building. Jhalil: and like no, like, cause we you know, we seen it a little bit more Deion: Yeah. Jhalil: than the youngest, but like Tya Moore: Bye. Jhalil: If if they turnout is not what they expect or what they see from us, they not trying to hear that shit. But at the same time, Tya Moore: That's all I'm saying. Jhalil: I feel what bro saying too is like, all right, well just because, you know, they don't like they still need to hear that shit because it might be that one thing, that one conversation Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's it. Sunny: Yeah, but that you always you always gonna say that. Jhalil: that really seep through and then really get them to, you know, shift the volume or shit. Deion: But let me ask y'all this, right? Tya Moore: That ain't what he said, so Sunny: No. Tya Moore: thank you for... Deion: No, no, no, no, let me let me ask y'all this real quick. Star: even answer the first question. Right before you ask the question, let me pray on it. Deion: Let me ask you this, right? Sunny: Done with her. Deion: That, you know, we whatever. Sunny: Mm. Deion: Let me ask you what you what do you think I gained? No, Tya Moore: We joking, we joking, good. Deion: but what you think I gained from try and win in in their conversation. Sunny: It's not that you're trying it's not I don't think I don't so I'ma defer just a little bit from what star is saying. I don't think necessarily that you're in a win-lose situation. It's just it's almost like when you go to an interview and they have this list of questions and then they like we gonna we're gonna say I I don't know how familiar with this. Y'all remember when August Alfina went on 106 the park and Roxy was asking questions while Terrence J was sitting there and then he he basically told him before it started that he's not gonna answer certain questions. And then she he she came out there Tya Moore: and I'm out. Sunny: and he said, nah, I told you not to go. You're gonna go against the grant. As I already said, I won't go and talk about that. You're gonna ask. I feel like you it's not that you're coming off like trying to trip people up, but like that's kind of what you're doing. Cause you're asking a question and she's answering it and you're spinning it to to to get a different reaction. And I and I get it in a sense like Jaheel said, did I say it right? Jahil. my god, I'm messing up your name. Sorry. Jalil, like like Jaleel said, I get where you're where you're going with it. Deion: Hello. Jhalil: I love. Tya Moore: Salud. Star: you Sunny: But it can make it seem like she didn't answer the question that you you asked her, which she did. You just you just had a different extension of the question and how you Deion: Exactly. Sunny: acted. As long as asking the question three different ways and trying to trip up to see if they're gonna say the same thing and sort of try to change their answer to cater what what you kinda wanna hear. And like that's you know, it I think it's hilarious, but yeah. I I feel like I feel like you you you shouldn't give up on. Star: Okay. Okay. Deion: Yeah. Tya Moore: Yeah, because I never said, I never said that's why I don't talk to them. That didn't Sunny: No, but that's Tya Moore: come out my mouth. I was just given what the challenges are. Deion: No, what what I Let me get y'all what I am doing though. Like what I am doing is asking questions to to assure that what you talking about you even believe yourself. Sunny: Wanna stand ten toes down and I got you. But so so I was a mentor Tya Moore: Right, got you. And I respect Deion: That's not a Tya Moore: it. Deion: like that's not I mean it's a win for me because if we all on if we all Star: Told you he run away. Deion: secure on what what our stance is, we can have a better world. So Tya Moore: Hey! Sunny: Can't yeah, you can't change it, yeah. Deion: that's the only win that it would be for me. I don't I like y'all, I don't have nothing Sunny: We're teasing you. Calm down, sir. Tya Moore: But she didn't Star: A win is a win though. A win is a win. I said a win. Tya Moore: say. She didn't say what kind of win. She just said what Sunny: Yeah. Deion: And and and when I'm when I'm speaking Tya Moore: kind win. Deion: on God, like I'm not speaking on God in the sense of like this religious stuff. I'm speaking on I'm just saying the word, but like really you are God. You that inner voice and everything like that, that's for you. Sunny: not God. I I haven't signed it to be God all season. Tya Moore: Right. Sunny: But listen. But Deion: You were quit with it. Sunny: listen. Deion: Whether but you can't say that if you believe in praying, 'cause who do you pray to? Sunny: do believe in playing but I'm not I'm not Jesus. I'm I'm not God. I am Sharita Lorraine Salter, aka Sonny. But no listen. But listen, Deion: I ain't gonna have that battle, but Sunny: what I will say is as far as that is concerned, I was a mentor for like the better part of my earlier years. high school on Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Sunny: up. And I and I also coach assisted coaching with junior Pee Wee Chair. So I've been around kids for the better part of my life I also was a I also did tutoring too. So I always around kids and sometimes like like to Ty's point and and Jalil Jhalil: Y'all love. Yeah. Sunny: Okay, I said it right. Deion: Yeah. Sunny: Jesus, I'm back with next. But look, I I feel like Star: I'm ready. Sunny: I've talked to some kids that I know didn't want to hear me, but I know that they heard me. And I was one of them kids. I I grew up at I was a a child that was going through it in in my childhood. And I I remember going into high school, I think my ninth grade year, and this care teacher, I didn't even know her from a can of paint. I was walking into school and she was like, What's wrong with you? And I was like, Mind your business, old lady. And every day she would come up to me and be like, What's wrong with you? Star: you Tya Moore: resources. Sunny: And I was like, why are you why are you bugging me? And she kept doing that for like a week straight until finally she sat me in her office and me and her got to talking. And she said, I feel like you got a lot in you. You need to get out. You need to find your outlet. She sat and talked like she would she didn't give up. But like, and to Ty's point, it's not that you're giving me up. You just know, like you, you could I can I can see somebody say something to somebody and they're gonna take it however way they wanna take it, but at least I know by their reaction, they heard me. Star: you you Sunny: Whether not you was ready to hear that moment or a couple of years Deion: Yeah, that's good Sunny: down the line, at some point you're gonna say that somebody, like what I'm saying right now, somebody pulled me to the side and told me to sit my ass down because I was doing the most. That's back when I was fighting and all that craziness. I'm starting, I'm tired. And like eventually I c I kinda calmed down. And like, even if you don't want to hear it to your point, even if they're it's not to say you give up on them. You can say it to them one time meeting somebody, you can call like 'cause sometimes you see people. Star: Okay. you Jhalil: It's right there. Sunny: even without really knowing them. You see who they are in in the brief in the counter that you have for however long it is, you can kinda see somebody because you know, soul tell everything, your eyes tell it all. So you could say something to somebody and six years later, yes, they it can change. For me, I was a menace growing as a child. Somebody said something to me and I took what they said and ran with it. And the the sunny you see now was was red in her in her former years. And I'm I'm less reactive. Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Star: you Sunny: I'm less confrontational. I'm I'm less like you you couldn't say you couldn't breathe next to me hard enough and I we had a problem. Like so now it's I'm not that person. It takes a lot to trick me. You actually have to come into my space and I'm I'm still gonna give you warning before I go off. So like I like I said I I somebody had to say something to me and I didn't know her from a can of paint. I got to know her eventually but she said it to me within five days every every Star: Okay. Okay. Sunny: All that week she said something to me until Monday she pulled me into her office and we sat and talked. So like it it it doesn't mean give up. It's just you gotta know you you also has to be the person to know that they're not ready to hear you. Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. You gotta send an olive branch without getting one back. Sunny: And even though you said it Star: Yeah, it's like to me it's like don't give up but choose your battles It's so scary because I have a niece. My niece is 20. My daughter is 14 To me and even my son is 20 about to be 23. So like Those people that may be close to them and then other people that's like a little outside of being close to them I'll try to talk to and all these other things it's so situational because it's scary that we live in a world where these where kids are Stay angry or something like you'll tell them something like yo, you shouldn't do that. You just chill not just chill here and all of that some of them be ready to pull out a gun and shoot you in the head like All I did was try to tell you your behavior isn't correct right now. This isn't a path you shouldn't go down. Tya Moore: Okay. Star: I'm just trying to give you some advice. And they are ready to shoot you Tya Moore: Yeah. Star: in the head. And it's like, so being taken away from my children and my family and my loved ones for giving someone advice that didn't win it, I feel like it's situational. You got to pick and choose your battles. That don't mean give up on every child or every kid. But assess the situation wisely. That's what I would say. Cuz I'm sure God don't want me to die for his. Tya Moore: Yeah, I agree. Yeah, just to clarify, I wasn't never saying don't talk to them or whatever. Star: Look in your, look in your hamper or in your hamper. I'm sorry. Tya Moore: Yeah, I wasn't never saying like, don't talk to them. I get what you're saying, Dion. You're not wrong. You're saying like words have power. And Sunny: Amen. Tya Moore: when we're saying these things, you know, we're speaking that over the situation instead of saying what could be done outside of that. You Sunny: Yeah. Tya Moore: know what I mean? So I definitely understood where you were coming from. I just was answering the question. Like I'm stating the obstacles. Enduring exactly what you're asking as far as the younger women. Those are the obstacles that you come against. It doesn't mean they can't ever be changed. Yeah. Deion: But that's what I mean, like I understand, like and so are we doing it in the plot of trying to understand the creator solution? Or we just speaking on it and then that would continuing to be the results because we speaking on it. Tya Moore: That's an amazing question. mean, but in order to solve any problem, you have to identify the problem first. Deion: Mm-hmm. Tya Moore: So now the solution, the solution. Deion: But what what I'm not saying is like what I'm not saying is people having I'm not seeing the sit downs with those actual kids to get the the the the statistics. Star: Okay. Tya Moore: Right. Sunny: Yeah, I think it starts with the parents 'cause at the p at end of the day you Deion: It's more like us as adults just saying, This what you should be doing. Tya Moore: Well, no, these Sunny: No Tya Moore: are real life conversations with younger women that are being had, you know, with older women, even with some people's own children. They're trying, well, you know, you should do things this way Star: Mm-mm. Tya Moore: because this will really help you. Well, such and such on TikTok said blah, blah, blah, blah, and she a millionaire, so I'ma listen to her, right? So and then you say, but you don't really know she's a millionaire, know, because that's on social media. And you know, it still takes work to do it. you know, this process work. Nah, she a millionaire. She getting flued out. I'm not trying to do it that way. I'm trying to do it the fast way. I ain't got time for that. Okay, but you know, you taking a shot. Like you see what I'm saying? You keep going back. keep going back. But that, this, Deion: I mean that's why we've been saying went out. Star: Okay. Deion: No, but when I was younger, I used to feel that same way. That's what I'm saying. So I'm like now that I'm Tya Moore: We all did. That's what I'm saying. We all did. So we had to learn. Somebody talking to us didn't necessarily solve the problems. Right. Deion: But that's why I'm that's why I'm trying see a different outcome because I'm like we just repeating it. Like if if if I went through it as a child and then I'm doing it now with the next it seemed like that's always been cause my mom say Star: Okay. you Deion: the same thing about her generation that came before. So if Tya Moore: Right. Deion: we don't stop it, it's just like it's a hamster will and shit like that. Sunny: But I don't think it's something that you can stop. I feel like people gotta go. Tya Moore: last one I write now is way more though. Sunny: Yeah, but I I don't even think it's something that you can stop because it's like people grow up. You're not gonna know it all. You're not gonna have it all together. You're not Tya Moore: Right. Sunny: gonna do those things, no matter who's staring you. Your parents can tell you you you got kids that like like me grew up in two parent households out here loose can and loose, and it they learn that at Tya Moore: Right. Sunny: home at all. Their parents talk to them constantly. They got them them old school praying grandmas praying for them and stuff like that. At the end of the day, the only thing that's gonna make a person change or better themselves is themselves when they, like Tyya said, identified the problem. Like I said, I had somebody walk up to me and say something to me. At that young age, I was in high school. I wasn't trying to hear a lady. She heard me. You know when it I I took it into effect? Like for real, for real, when I got when I became an adult and I saw that life, the life that I was living was not something I needed to be doing because it was gonna end up in one, two things, jail or in the box. I didn't want that. So I had to grow the hell up and get out of that. Star: Now. Sunny: And learn to get out of that. But I I feel like it's something that we we could talk about it. And at the end of the day, people can talk to us about our behavior. But we're not going nobody does anything unless they feel like they need unless they see that they need to change. They need they need they need to see it for themselves. This is not working. I need to change it. Even as us at this big age. Like I s we we can go back to what I've been saying this whole time. I was living in toxicity. I realized that it's not for me. It's not something I don't want to be in. I don't want to be in fight or flight. I I don't like Tya Moore: Yeah. Sunny: that feeling. I had to change. One of the things I had to do was get into therapy. It wasn't like a one, two, it's over. I had to go this. It wasn't this happened yesterday and now today I'm better. It this was a process and I grew from that. And I feel like we're always growing and we're always gonna be learning. Somebody can be telling me right now, hey mom, this isn't. Star: Okay. you Sunny: Like even with my son, somebody can say, Hey mom, this is something you might want to work on with him, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah to help him with X, Y, and Z. I'm still gonna learn because I was doing it my way. And my way was working also, but not really can't changing the behavior that he was doing. So now I need to work on things. So I feel like we're always growing. We're always gonna learn something. And and even in this age, a lot of people, kids, you can't talk to because their moms are telling them, I why I've witnessed that during your Pen Wee. You can't tell my kid nothing. Even if your kid is outright. Star: Okay. Okay. Tya Moore: Yeah. Sunny: Being wrong, being disrespectful and talking back. I can say, hey, no, you can't do that. We told one parent, your your kid is having this behavior, they can't participate in it in the competition no more. That parent was causing a whole bunch of commotion, arguing, ready to fight, because your child was in the wrong. They were doing things that they should not have been doing. We our corrective our correct asking was if you keep doing this, you can't do X, Y, and Z. It was a whole thing with this parent arguing, arguing us down about why they child couldn't do this. They paid my money for this, that and the third, but you ain't paid to check your child. Star: Okay. Sunny: We told you the behavior, you didn't correct it. Jhalil: There you go. Sunny: And like you don't want us correcting your child, so that means you need to correct the behavior. I'm not gonna reward bad behavior, but these parents are out here rewarding bad behavior. Kids out here doing X, Y, and Z, but buy on the latest sneakers showing up in the fly school, schools up first day at school, but ain't dead shit. But but be unproductive and destructive the whole seas the whole year prior. And next year they got a fresh fit. Like you gotta stop promoting this, this, this. Star: Okay. Okay. Tya Moore: Yeah. Sunny: bad behavior and and sometimes it starts with the parents and a lot of parents aren't being parents. Tya Moore: Yeah, you mentioned earlier about the healing process and all that. It's because if you keep going through the same thing over and over again, eventually you're going to realize you got to do something different, right? Because there's plenty of people that was like, you shouldn't be in a relationship. Nobody shouldn't be doing that to you. And it's like, you don't want to it. You know what mean? You don't want to hear it till you want to hear it. So you know what mean? It's the same thing. Star: Okay. Okay. Tya Moore: You know what mean? Even if everybody's telling you, you don't believe it until you're ready to believe it. You know what I mean? So that... Right. Jhalil: It's like a time and I I feel like it's it's time and experiences that that help like, Tya Moore: Yeah, right. Jhalil: you know, that help bring it into fruition. Like 'cause at the time some young boys they probably they might not want to hear it 'cause it's not their time Tya Moore: Hmm Jhalil: to really hear it. Like until they go through that experience where it's like, damn, this what old head was talking about. Feel me? Star: Do you think that's also like situational like what if instead of just like he said we just be honest that we just Talking Deion: Yeah. Tya Moore: Yeah, like I had a lot of... Star: so it's not like a real proactive thing So you got little J.J. over here who wants to be a basketball player, but he running the streets being difficult and all of that. It's like, J.J., walk me to the basketball courts. And while you're going to the basketball courts, you're explaining to him certain things. And now you're also showing him, like, I see what you want, and I'm just talking to you to help you get on the path to get what you want instead of just talking and you not trying to hear me. Then while we at the courts, I can show you. Well, he what little junior wanted it to little junior didn't make it cuz little junior was doing this So you don't want go down the road little junior going down and Mr. Jimmy he was doing it too But look, mr. Jimmy wanted to sell drugs and gangbang look where mr. Jimmy at he's he ain't in the NBA either Maybe sometimes I feel like if you do certain things in a way to appeal to their mind Find out what they interest or something so to talk in their language actually Tya Moore: That's Star: And maybe they won't learn from experience because they see the experience. Tya Moore: the one. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Deion: Yeah. Tya Moore: You can't talk at them. You can't talk at them. Yeah. Right. Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: I think I think just like with the bad, Star: Yeah. Deion: like we gotta be manipulated into Tya Moore: the thing. Deion: what it is. You know what I mean? Like to Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Deion: I know people look at that word in a in a bad, but it's like, no. Tya Moore: Nah. Star: I thought you could see it. Deion: You gotta manip like we manipulate our kids how we want You feel me? Like, you know, if you want to eat green beans, you know you go about it a certain way. Like you feel what I'm Tya Moore: Yeah. Deion: saying? You you play the airplane game or you tell you know, the value of it or whatever the case may be. And so Tya Moore: Bakes. Deion: yeah. I think it's definitely that. You know what I'm saying? Tya Moore: Yeah, she manipulating me. Deion: Good. Tya Moore: Sorry. tired from podcasting she manipulated me into podcasting again so yeah sometimes it is good you know what mean? Star: Just cuz someone said something that doesn't mean it's true guys Deion: Absolutely. Tya Moore: What? Star: Not true. Deion: I appreciate you. Tya Moore: It's very true. The evidence is all over the place. It's all over the place. Deion: Give me a Tya Moore: I was retired and she was on a podcast, barcass, and she said, I want you to come to this podcast. And Star: one time. Tya Moore: I was getting ready to say no. And she was like, I ain't asking you. I'm telling you. And that was a ploy to get me back in the Star: But the funny part about it is I wasn't even supposed to be a part of that. I'm a bartender. Deion: Yeah, yeah. Tya Moore: pot. No, you know what she was doing. That was a ploy. Sunny: She made she made a strong suggestion. Tya Moore: No, because I think she knew Deion: the law. Tya Moore: if I got behind that mic again, it was I was going to to start again and it didn't work right Deion: No. Tya Moore: away. I did get back into podcasting, but I didn't get behind the mic right away. I just started producing the podcast. But as you can see. Star: Nobody got put Deion: Little bit of bullying Star: in a hit lock. Deion: in that, you know what I mean? A little bit of bullying in that. Tya Moore: I mean, she been in great situation, I'm saying. Star: I don't, I'm not a violent woman. I use my words. I'm not a violent woman. Tya Moore: You did put me in here like you said I ain't asking you what I'm telling you. What is that? She's like D-Bo. Deion: Yeah. Tya Moore: You know what mean? Sunny: It was a strong suggestion. Deion: Yeah. Tya Moore: But no, but that's what, to your point, the reason I brought that up, I'm being funny, but that's a form of good manipulation, right? Cause she was like, this girl don't need to be retired Star: So did you manipulate me as well? Tya Moore: from no podcasting. She don't really want to be retired from no podcasting. She letting something stand in her way. Deion: And you need it. Tya Moore: And I'ma push her to do it. And she did. I manipulated you with spoken word. did. Cause she was writing all this poetry and I'm like, what are you writing all this poetry for? And nobody ever hear it. So slowly but surely. She started doing spoken word. So we manipulate each other. That's the relationship that we have, but it's good manipulation. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. So yeah, I agree with your point Jhalil: No. Yeah. Star: I've to rethink this relationship now. Deion: yeah. Tya Moore: that sometimes manipulation, you know what I mean? Listen, girl, you stuck with Deion: Important. Tya Moore: me inside of me. Sunny: Right. Tya Moore: I ain't not here. No, what I'm just saying, like, Deion: Give me a give me Tya Moore: that's the reality. You know what I mean? She felt like, no. Deion: Give me your final words, Bishop. Tya Moore: Huh? Deion: Give me y'all final words. Tya Moore: I'll find the words. Deion: And I you know, honesty, right. Tya Moore: Mmm Listen I just look and after today Sunny: Jesus in me loves you. Jesus in you. No, I'm sorry. Tya Moore: I'm gonna break from podcasting until September the 19th So y'all put me at a good time. my final words. Listen, I got 12 days before I be 45 years old. Back like Jordan, we're in the full five. You know, I've learned a lot. I just come on these platforms to entertain people, but also, you know, give a message, share my testimony. You know, I've been through a lot. I've learned a lot. I've changed a lot. Some things will never change about me, but I don't think they're bad things, from my opinion. That's not even to say I'm perfect, because by no means I'm not. Tomorrow is going to be something else I need to heal from. But the thing is, as long as you're on a journey, you'll be able to move forward. Some people haven't even started. So as long as you're on a journey, you'll always be able to move forward, because you have realized that you need to be on a journey. You have started the journey, and you see the importance of the Star: Thank Sunny: Yeah. Deion: Pretty good. Tya Moore: journey. But there will be something tomorrow that I got to heal from that I didn't realize was there. You know what I mean? So I never want anybody to feel like, she thinks she perfect. Far, far from it. It's still things that I need to heal from. And the last thing I'm going say is, it's easy to be healed on your own. Because you ain't dealing with nobody but yourself. So when you get in relationship or you start dating, that's when those things that you thought you healed from come up, right? And the thing about that is if you can recognize it, that means you're healing. When something's triggering me, I'm like, why did this trigger me? What am I going to do about it? How much of this is me? How much of this is him? That's the Star: Okay. Okay. Deion: Mm-hmm. Tya Moore: healing journey. There are people that will never be able Star: Thank Tya Moore: to say that, and those people aren't on the journey. Go on the Hillen journey and just keep moving forward. That's my final words. Star: Jalu. you want me to be the idiot? So what's my final words? And see you all back to school night. So now I'm Tya Moore: Thanks. Jhalil: I'ma say I'ma save mine for add to y'all 'cause you know, I I mean I'm I'ma save mine. Star: God did. I write. I'm not the word person. So yeah, I'm missing your letter. No, Deion: Yeah, Tya Moore: I'm done. Star: I'm a writer. Tya Moore: You're not a word person. You want a whole package, but you're not a word person. Girl, you want to fix something? Deion: No every. Star: I was manipulated, you admitted that. You was on the stand admitting that, nobody even asked you. You signed that confession. Tya Moore: Bye, bye. Jhalil: she ain't acting like a main character right now. Star: And I say both. Two for one. Tya Moore: I didn't say I manipulated you to podcast. I said to do spoken word Star: Hey, Mari. Two for one. Deion: Okay. Tya Moore: No, I didn't. You was already podcasting. Star: Okay. Sunny: Yeah, I'm done with y'all. Deion: Sunny, you Sunny, you got like a setup and shit? Sunny: yes this is my desk right here, yeah. Deion: Okay, yeah. You join plush like a motherfucker. Star: Okay. Sunny: He My what? Tya Moore: Yeah, I got got it set up, but I just was down to sleep. Deion: I say JJ on plush like a motherfucker. Sunny: Yeah. I listen, I had to build me a little well, I got my little desk area. This is my work desk and all that, so I podcast them and all that. Deion: You got your Jhalil: She'd Deion: you got your face lit Jhalil: be on them Zooms heavy. Deion: and your Sunny: Yeah yeah. Deion: your face lit proportionately. Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Jhalil: Yeah. Sunny: If I turn the light on, I'll look a lot pale. So I don't like the light on because I look like a little a super light skinned, extreme light skinned. So I don't I don't like to do all that. But Deion: Yeah. That's a good job, Andrew. That's a good job. Sunny: my final thought w will be the night, and I say this all the time. If you're gonna stand ten toes down, stand ten toes down. Be Tya Moore: Thank you. Sunny: unapologetically yourself. That's it. Tya Moore: period. Deion: Thank you. Jhalil: Okay. And mine, listen, I just wanna shout out main character energy, man, 'cause like, you know, people watch our podcast and people watch our podcast. So this this a whole different, you know, viewpoint. And like we said, you know, we we like to get the subjects where people don't usually talk about. So I appreciate y'all transparency, the realness, and like the game that y'all put out there, 'cause like Us as men and women, we don't need to be beefing. We stronger together. And like, you know, we gotta keep pushing, bro. All that other shit is from the outside. Like, that's noise. So I feel as Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Jhalil: though we way more powerful together and I appreciate y'all for sliding through and keeping it real with us. Like that's my final job. Tya Moore: Thank you. Appreciate you having us. Go ahead, DM. Sunny: Yes, thanks thanks thanks thanks for letting us come on your podcast, even if Dion was schooling us with Jesus and I'm replaying. I I'm joking. Don't take me Deion: Okay. Sunny: seriously. I'm I'm I'm only I'm only Jhalil: Yeah Sunny: messing with you. I think I mean like I say I get it. It's it's definitely a d a different side of things. I feel like it's you know, it's it's necessary, but yeah, you try to get a strip up, bro. With respect. It's all right. Deion: Yeah. Tya Moore: I'm a fan of being challenged. I'll tell you that. Sunny: Yeah. Deion: Yeah. Tya Moore: I'm a fan of it. And you definitely, you know, challenged mentally. Sunny: Make the San Ten Souls down. Yeah. Tya Moore: It made me stand ten tones down, whatever I said. Listen, I appreciate it. That only makes me better. You know what I mean? That only makes me know, you know, that what I'm saying is the truth and that the growth I believe I have, I really do. So I definitely do appreciate that. Sunny: Yeah. Deion: Yeah. Tya Moore: You manipulated me, but you, yeah. No, I'm joking. Deion: Mm-hmm. Star: not guilty your honor. Judge Dionne, I'm not guilty. Deion: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sunny: It's coming like a Jehovah's Witness, do you know Tya Moore: Hahaha! Sunny: that does does the good Lord Jesus? Deion: Thank you. Jhalil: He gotta be your honor. No, but I ain't Deion: He's Jhalil: gonna lie, we do play good cop, bad cop too sometimes. Tya Moore: Yeah, it's a good thing. I love Sunny: Nice one now. Tya Moore: it. It was great. This was amazing. Okay, this is a great conversation for me. Sunny: Yeah. I definitely had fun I definitely had fun here, so Tya Moore: And now y'all gonna come on ours, so next in September, I gotta get back to y'all with the time. Cuz we gotta figure out. But definitely it will be September 20th, we just gotta figure out the time. Jhalil: yeah, just let us know, for sure. Deion: Yeah. Star: Wait, can I tell you a quick funny story? Right? Let me tell you a quick funny story. Deion: Yeah. Sunny: September twentieth, let me mark that date in my calendar. Hold up. September twentieth, let me put on my Google calendar. Deion: We just need. Star: So part of this, I know you all know I was still off school shopping. You all seen me drive the tour again. All of it. When my daughter get in a car, right? She can hear the things she talked about when John Luke took my talking. She took them out. You can tell me from Philly. Jhalil: Yeah. Tya Moore: You definitely got the Philly accent. Deion: Mm-hmm. Jhalil: That's good. Tya Moore: And look, every time somebody say that to me, I'm like, we got an accent? But I've definitely heard Deion: Mm-hmm. Tya Moore: it in you. People Jhalil: Hey. Tya Moore: always say that to me, like when I go somewhere else, be like, I know you from Philly, you got that Philly accent. You Jhalil: Yeah, you can't leave it. You feel me? Tya Moore: can't leave it. You know what mean? I love my city. don't get it. Listen, I love my city. Damn. Sunny: Is this the event title? No, it's not the event title. Deion: That's crazy. That's crazy 'cause he from Delaware. Jhalil: Man, get out of here, bro. Tya Moore: No way he's from Delaware. He's from Delaware and Philly, Delaware Avenue. He ain't from no Delaware. Sunny: There you go. She's a Delaware Philly. Deion: You supposed to go with it, bro. You supposed to go with it. Jhalil: No, no. Tya Moore: That's the only Delaware he from, Delaware Avenue. He from Philly. Deion: He he lived in Delaware now. Tya Moore: But that ain't Jhalil: Yeah Tya Moore: got nothing to do with where you from. Because I'm from North Philly, but I don't live in North Philly, but I'm still from North. You know what mean? Deion: Yeah. Sunny: Not from West but I and Tya Moore: From North. Sunny: I do live do I live by no I'm North Trent. I live I'm not from Western and I'm live out of North Trent. So not that you care. Nobody Jhalil: Damn. Sunny: asked me, Tya Moore: Yeah. Sunny: but you know, I'm just saying. Jhalil: you near New York like dying. Tya Moore: Yeah, I'm from North. N-O-R-F. Deion: Trying our album parts. Tya Moore: I'm sorry, Dion, what's your final thoughts? We didn't let you say your final thoughts. My apologies. Deion: Tran got all on parts. Sunny: We got all them parts. We got north, south, east, west, and Wilbur sector. Tya Moore: Who thought it was one black? Deion: I I don't I never I just thought it was Trenton. I ain't know Sunny: Nah is normal. Tya Moore: Yo, low key, I did too, Deon. Sunny: Nah, it's n it's North Trenton, East Trenton, Wilver Section, West Trenton, and South Trenton. Deion: so. Jhalil: Man. Tya Moore: All I ever hear people say is Trenton. I never heard no new of South West like Sunny: Yeah, 'cause they ain't if if you're Jhalil: Me neither. Sunny: not from Trenton, Deion: Yeah. Sunny: it's like no really point of saying I'm from this part of Trenton if you don't know it. Especially like if if Deion: Okay. Sunny: like if you if you ask somebody if I'm asking my from from Trenton, they're gonna be like, Yeah, I'm from this side. Like it's people like I feel like North Trenton niggas just is like ghosts. You don't Tya Moore: Can I ask you all questions in a little bit? Deion: Yeah. Sunny: see them people. Deion: I guess that's how we be in Philly, like I just say I'm from North, niggas. I don't even say Philly. Tya Moore: Yeah, I don't get out no, you know what mean? like no report badly. I'm from North. ain't sorry. Deion: Not from North Cause. Sunny: Yeah. Tya Moore: Hang on. Can I ask y'all a question? So what's something that y'all learned from us today? I'm Sunny: yeah. That's a dope one. Tya Moore: sorry, DI, you gotta give me your thoughts first. I'm sorry. But I would like to know that Deion: That's cool, yeah. Tya Moore: though. Deion: What you think we learned from you, yo? Tya Moore: Yeah, like name two things you learned from us today. Deion: that women will take accountability Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Deion: and that wim all women ain't in a line with with Sunny: Say that. Deion: the thinking the normal thinking. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, I Sunny: proud of you. Look at you your Tya Moore: Thank Sunny: listening skills are so impeccable. Tya Moore: you. Deion: Yeah. Jhalil: Yeah, all right, what I learned, all right, Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Jhalil: is is a little bit what bro said that women, you know, do take accountability. But the second part is like what Tyya was saying, like, you know, about the stuff that, you know, both of us go through as men and women. You feel me? And and now I'm more aware of that. I didn't know it was all of them different forms and I know it was all of these different things that, you know, I'm thinking that it's just one thing lumped all in one. So now that's more Tya Moore: engine. Jhalil: something that I can look into. Like, so I respect that. And like now I feel a little bit more suited. So I can deal with that when you know, when I go do that with my partner. Feel me, 'cause we we done went through the postpartum thing and all of that, but like now it's a deeper understanding and is is a deeper respect, you feel me? Especially hearing it from Tya Moore: I love it. Jhalil: other women. Sunny: Yeah. Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Okay, that's amazing. Deion: Yeah. How about how about for y'all Tya Moore: That's amazing. I feel good. Jhalil: Yeah. So we gon we're gonna tell the bros too, you feel me? Deion: though? How about for y'all? Tya Moore: We'll be in there from y'all. Deion: Yeah. Tya Moore: Hmm, I gotta Sunny: Well, I learned that you love Jesus. Tya Moore: remember, we been on here three hours, let me think. I learned, no, no, no, I Deion: I know I know I don't even speak Jesus, so I don't Sunny: And Jalil I actually learned his name. Tya Moore: learned piggyback on what Jahlil said. I learned that a lot of, like a lot of the issue is that we don't understand each other. Like he said, he thought it was just one thing, you know. So I think that's what I learned is that women have to communicate these things more to men. We have to talk about it more. You know what mean? We have to provide more information. We can't just say, they should know. why they don't know that? They don't. They don't. It's Deion: Yeah. Tya Moore: not something that's happening to them. So no, they don't know until it's brought to their attention. So that was a major thing. You know what I mean? I think we assume that men know what's going on with us. And they don't. all the time. Deion: Yeah. Tya Moore: So that was a big thing. From Dion, let me think. I learned to watch my words. You know what mean? Because I felt where you was coming from when you saying that. No, no. I'm being serious. When I'm saying I learned to watch my words, I get what you were saying. Like if you just focusing on why something can't be done versus figuring out how it could be done, that's been the louder conversation in the room. And it needs to be the quieter conversation in the room. Like when you said the whole thing about the devil, you know, and what did you say? Was the devil in God? Yeah, that whole thing. Somebody said earlier, like the devil is the loudest. I think a lot of times we allowing the devil to be the loudest because we keep paying attention to him. So that's what I took from, you know, what you said. I know we always joking and all that, but that's what I took from what you said earlier. You weren't looking for me to tell you why we, why it can't be done. You were looking for why it can be done or how it can be done. Deion: No, no, no. I just I just was asking to get a better understanding from you. Tya Moore: Right, but no, no, that's what I'm saying. But the way that you ask it... Deion: Community. Like I wasn't expecting a a certain answer. Tya Moore: No, but I'm saying that's what I learned is like, yeah, we go to that first. Like when you asked me that, I didn't say what Sunny said, because I've done that. Like I've mentored people, I've done nonprofit. I automatically went to what the current state is. You know what I mean? And why, you know, certain things aren't occurring versus saying, well, it should be more programs or it should be more this. Because I, you know, I've had a mentor my entire life in some way. You know what I'm saying? So I attribute a lot of that to. me even being eventually able to get to this point because I remember some of those things that were said to me or that were instilled in me. So, and we can kind of lose sight of that because I think a lot of the older people are just writing off the younger people. And the way I answered it, that's one of the ways that we're writing off the younger people. They're going to listen to me anyway. So that's what I learned. And Star: You. Tya Moore: I appreciate it. Sunny: You want to go or you want me to go? Because I was being All right. So I'm gonna be serious now 'cause my my other answers wasn't necessarily serious. But kind of counter counter not not counter, but going along with what Ty said. I feel like you what I learned from you, Dion, is to kinda Words and actions have to kinda meet to an extent, right? You can say it you can say a lot of things, you could talk a lot of good things, but also match it with like what what you can do, like what's what's actionable that could be done. Or what you like what you can do to contribute to like a lot of the stuff. Like whether it's talking to someone and just, you know, trying to ha tryna have open up a dialect or at least attempt one, you might and like in my my case, I would not only attempt, I I think I would keep trying depending on the person that's willing to even like listen for a minute. You know, 'cause sometimes you get somebody say something and then they kinda brush you off and then that next time you hit them they actually more receptive and try to will continue or at least try to continue the conversation. I I learned that. But like and a couple other things too, but I'm not gonna name those two. I'm gonna say your name wrong and I'm trying not to. Yah Lil Jhalil: Yeah. Sunny: But like I learned from you is that some men do take in take in account women's feel feelings in those type of vulnerable situations with postpartum. And then like I said, I personally have not known a guy that kinda went through it. So to kinda hear a little bit of your story about like, you know, you going through it and kinda like even like any of you later identified that's what it was. It's kinda like getting a men's perspective on it as well and being and seeing that some men Like both both to both of you guys that some men are open to being receptive and kind of trying to meet the woman at at at at the halfway point and meet her where she's at and try to like navigate that and be a little bit more understanding, especially when they're in a vulnerable moment. So like when some when we hear the narrative, black men don't really support black women, it's nice to see that some we we meet some black men that do support. us us as black women and willing to support their their their counterparts and try to like, you know, understand it better to be able to be better people, whether it's for women, period, or just for the women that you're with and like or the people that you're the women that you're surrounded by. You could be more of a a listening board and just be more have compassion and empathy to kind of understand like, well, you know, we did have this podcast with these women they came on and they said these things and now kind of can like approach it differently or figure out another way to approach it and try to help you. So I I did learn that from you guys and I appreciate that because I I think for us, if you're not used to hearing that or seeing that, like I said, I'm coming from a place of, you know, working on trauma and stuff. And that's not something I've I've heard a lot of. So it's kind of good and refreshing to hear that from from black men. So thank y'all for that. Star: For me, I learned that God is good. Thank you, Jhalil: Appreciate that. Star: sir. Thank you. Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Sunny: All the time God is good. I got you. Star: Because I'm definitely about to eat when we hang up. Soon as we hang up, I'm about to eat. I told you all, I'm hungry. At all times, I'm hungry. Jhalil: She said, God is good, God is great, and we thank you for the food. Tya Moore: Mwahahahah Star: What I've learned is... Sunny: Said that too, but Star: Always pay attention to your words whether they're your inner voice or you're speaking them out loud because You may be even if you're talking to someone about them. It still speaks as to wait is inside of you Also like your you could be projecting or you could be manifesting depending on what you put out into Tya Moore: Hmm. Star: the world That's what I took from something that Dion said when he was like, so what is they saying to you like? You speaking to you when you're speaking to other people whether you're judging them or Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Star: uplifting them It's still like you're speaking to you. So just be careful with your words and what you put out into the world another thing I've learned is I feel like it's almost like Tya Moore: Mmm. Star: Don't give up on people so easily if you can try try again Just try again. Don't try enough weird It gets go to the left, but Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Star: if you can try try again like You never know what trying again might change in someone else's life. So those are Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Star: some things I learned. Sorry about my back room. My nephews just came over. Emergency just happened, so they come out. I'm about to go back on mute. Tya Moore: Wow, man. If the world could do what we just did. Listen to each Deion: Yeah. Jhalil: Yeah, this was a real good job. Tya Moore: other, learn from each other, had a slight disagreement, figure that out, you know. Communication is a beautiful thing, it's necessary. Deion: We have a disagreement. We are a little Tya Moore: We had a little disagreement Star: You had a disagreement with him? Tya Moore: with you, but you know, we figured it out. Deion: for real. Star: I ain't had no disagreement with him. I said he liked the way. Tya Moore: No, dear. Star: We agree with that. Ain't no disagree. Deion: I didn't even know. Star: I agree with it, so it's no Tya Moore: disagreement but Star: disagreement. Deion: Mm-hmm. Star: And you know what, Deion, in the end, guess what? You won. I got good credit with you. You won. Look what you did. You won. Deion: Yeah. Tya Moore: Yeah. You did. Yeah, Deion: Yeah. Tya Moore: you made us see your point of view. So I Deion: yeah. Tya Moore: won't say disagreement, miscommunication. That's the right word. Deion: Yeah. Y'all got y'all can't give it to me because like you know what education means like the pull w within out. So Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Deion: a teacher is aided to do that. Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Deion: You know what I mean? Like so what y'all was speaking, I just asked the questions that got y'all to go deeper into what Tya Moore: Yeah. Deion: y'all already doing. Like you get what I'm saying? So it's not Like that's what I'm saying. I don't I think that's just my what I feel like my position is. Tya Moore: No, listen, here's the thing. Deion: You know what I mean? Tya Moore: You killed two birds with one stone. That wasn't your original intent, but it had an additional effect. Deion: What was it my time? Tya Moore: Like you said, you was just asking questions. You wasn't trying to disrupt what you Deion: really? Tya Moore: think or anything like that. You was just asking questions. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. Deion: No, I understand it though. It's not new though. You get what I'm saying? It's not new. And I understand it because I understand everything else. Like slavery and everything Tya Moore: Right, no, no, get you. Deion: else. Tya Moore: But you made us, you made, well I'm speaking for myself, you made me have to focus on something else, because I immediately went to the first thing, and then when you kept saying that, I'm like, dang, that is true, but damn, I did forget about this too, so that's why I'm saying, even if that wasn't your intent when you said that. Deion: No, I like I really I really wonder like do we think like because we'll say like how we think is how we feel and it'll get our our life Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Deion: but when we talking about stuff it's like we putting it out Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Deion: and then when the results come back that same way that we just put it out we not looking at that Tya Moore: Bye. Deion: and I'm like if we start there Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Deion: Then we can probably get to a space of what we never saw before. Like when you talk to people about the Tya Moore: I agree. Take the win, Dion. Take the win. Take the win. Take the win. Deion: But when you talk to people about like the world being positive Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Deion: because of how we've been living, it's hard to fand on that. You get what I'm saying? In a world of lies, people hesitate on the truth. Tya Moore: Yes, sir. Deion: You know what mean? But but but in that safe regard of us not repeating or getting hurt again, we'll put that out. We have projected like, Tya Moore: Right. Deion: ain't nobody gonna lie to me ever again. It's Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Deion: like you setting yourself up for that result, but we not looking at that. We just set it for it to come back. And if we eliminate that, then I'm like, we eliminate the problem. But we We a we a say that and just go right to everybody just a liar. And when we live there, we don't get nowhere. Tya Moore: I agree with that, but you know. Deion: So that'd be the that's why I'd be like wanting to ask those certain questions. Not that I gotta answer. I'm just Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Deion: I just know certain questions. Well the answer is in the question we ask. So Tya Moore: Agree. Deion: if we answer the question maturely and in the power of now, then Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Deion: we can really get somewhere instead. You know what I mean? But most times we be dismissive and you know, all this other stuff. Tya Moore: Right. That's why all of this was important for everybody. Deion: Absolutely. Tya Moore: Yeah, listen, I feel full right now. Like, I'm so serious. Yeah, I, oof, sheesh. Deion: I appreciate y'all. Y'all know there's three hours. Tya Moore: I know, it's a deep conversation. Jhalil: All right. Tya Moore: You got podcasters on here, we talk forever. But I mean, know, it's so many things to discuss. went from, yeah, we talked about a lot. Sunny: My phone unfelled. I'm sorry, I got my phone on charge because the butt was about to die. But I got no, I didn't realize it. I I had it charged Tya Moore: I thought I'm been on the side of whole time. Sunny: at a hundred percent. Y'all y'all over here. Y'all phone. Tya Moore: Yeah, my phone been on the charger. I had it on the charger the whole time I was talking. But yeah, yeah, definitely learned a lot. This was definitely, these are the conversations that people should be having on podcasts though. Not saying we all joke and you know what mean? Cause we do all that, but these conversations need to start being the loudest conversations in the algorithm, Deion: Yeah. Tya Moore: but they don't be, you know what I mean? Deion: Yeah. But now you get in the point of our drone, the volume to you know I mean and the facts like we gotta we gotta put something we gotta put Tya Moore: Yeah, no, yeah, listen, yeah. I want the game on here. I don't go on everybody's Deion: something the counter. We just gotta put things the counter because it's too much Tya Moore: Right. Deion: other frequencies that's Tya Moore: Yeah. Deion: lending to the other stuff. Tya Moore: Right. Deion: You know what I mean? Like yeah. Tya Moore: We got a segment on the Miss No-Daw Podcast that I produced, right? So it was the Rage-Bait clip of the week, right? Because basically we shutting that shit down. Like, you know what I mean? Like Rage-Bait is a real thing. People really put content out to have people arguing about it. Literally. They do it with skits. Jhalil: Yeah, right, right. Tya Moore: They do it with, you know, just regular podcast clips. That's what it is because everybody is not... invested in the integrity of it. I tell people all the time, my integrity is not for sale. You know what mean? Like I joke, I got a dark sense of humor, you know mean? All that kind of stuff. But what I'm saying is like, I'm never going to be a rage baiter. I'm never going to say something just to get men and women to start arguing. Now it can happen, because it has happened when that wasn't my intent. But that to me is not rage bait. Rage bait is you're intentionally baiting. Black men, or I'm gonna say black men and black women, black men and black women to argue online about a specific subject. Sunny: Yeah. Deion: Any Tya Moore: That's what race baiting is. And it's crazy how much it goes on and that people don't realize that that's what it is. Deion: For real. Jhalil: Yeah. Deion: I look at all that shit. Diddy, R. Kelly, Michael Jackson, Tya Moore: Yeah, I love it. Yeah. Deion: Prince, anybody that they want to defraete. Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Deion: Yeah, that's a part of the seven D's and shit like that they Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. I agree. Deion: that they utilize to to really like fuck us up. You know what I mean? Tya Moore: It's all about design. That's why I be telling people like it's done intentionally. It works on some of us and some of us it doesn't. You know what I mean? But that don't mean that it still wasn't done by design. That's the thing. Deion: Yeah. And yeah, remember too, like a lot of it still is in us through genes or ancestors and stuff. Tya Moore: Right, yeah. Deion: So we gotta natural fear and all of these doubts and different things like that. You get what I'm saying? That we gotta already climb out of or unlearn to even relearn. You Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Deion: know what I mean? A lot of this stuff. You get what I'm saying? That's why Tya Moore: Right. Deion: I was telling people like. We saying we native or Africans, if we look at them, we don't act the same. Tya Moore: Mm-mm. Deion: We done been Americanized for so long, like we take a part of that white supremacy shit. You feel me? Like when we speak on dirty and black and and like broke and like you being dumb for not knowing something, or these are them type of things. You Tya Moore: Right. Deion: get what I'm saying? Like they not ours. Tya Moore: Mm-hmm. Deion: We come from, you know, real repentment, like where if you in a tribe or something, you do something, you get kicked out for a certain amount of time, but you go through a a a recovery and you come back to the community change. Tya Moore: Thank Deion: We go through rites of passage where when when you go when you go through a age. Jhalil: Yo, dog. That's a whole different conversation, man. Let's let's get into that later, dog. Tya Moore: No, so I was going to say this earlier Deion: Yeah, yeah, no. Tya Moore: and that's the last, Deion: Yeah. Tya Moore: I'm going say this, right? I don't know. I said this before and people were going to be like, I was crazy. The gender war really is rooted from the plantation, right? To me, just me personally, I feel like some Black women feel like the men didn't protect them from getting raped. by our master and some blatant men feel like you slept with master. Deion: Mm-hmm. Tya Moore: That to me, that's at the root of it. Like if you ever just listen to some of these conversations, it's very, very, very deep rooted, right? And it only gets worse as people have their own personal experiences or see other people with experiences. But this all started from slavery. Deion: Mm-hmm. Word. Tya Moore: You know what mean? Women got raped and they had a whole husband that couldn't do nothing about it. Deion: Mm-hmm. Tya Moore: You know what saying? Deion: Very weird. Tya Moore: So I feel like that's a lot of, like you said earlier, slavery did a number on us. It's a whole lot of, you know, that whole wanting to be saved. Everybody ain't Harriet Deion: Well Tya Moore: Tubman. You know I'm saying? All of that. It's deep. Yeah, we could have Deion: But I'm like Tya Moore: a whole nother conversation about it, but it's deep. Sunny: Like. Tya Moore: And a lot of people don't want to talk Deion: Yeah, we definitely can. Tya Moore: about it or realize it. But, you know, all this stuff was done by design. Taking Deion: Mm. Tya Moore: the black man out of the house. so black women could be on welfare. All of it was done by design. They was trying to teach you you didn't need a man in the You don't need a father in house. You know what mean? People argue about James Evans, right? And I say to me, he's the best TV dad ever. wow, they lives in the projects. What does that matter? He was there every day. Took his family every day. Kept his kids out the streets. You know what I mean? All y'all can look at is that he ain't had money. Sunny: Yeah. Deion: Mm-hmm. Jhalil: Yeah, we're alright. Tya Moore: You just get all of his character traits. You know what mean? He ain't play no games. He protected them kids. They respected him and he ain't hardly had no money, but they still respect him. Sunny: Yeah. Tya Moore: And that's what I think is being missed. You know, people are so focused on money and not character. So when I say that James Evans is the greatest TV dad, the first thing people say, but he was broke. What does that have to do with him being a great dad? Deion: Mm-hmm. Tya Moore: His kids never went Jhalil: Yeah. Tya Moore: hungry. They was never out on the street. They always had somewhere to live. They might didn't have, you know, everything that they wanted, but they had everything that they needed. And that's the whole point. And you can't get people to see that because all people care about is money now. Sunny: Somebody somebody need to change the battery on their smoke detector. I'm not gonna put it out there, but I'm just saying. Tya Moore: And ain't me. Sunny: I hear it. But I gotta go 'cause my phone is about to chuck a deuce on y'all and Jhalil: Said it's probably me. Sunny: I don't wanna and I don't wanna Tya Moore: you Sunny: exit it without saying goodnight. I really enjoyed the conversation. I really think definitely Deion: Yeah. Sunny: to tie it Tyus I'm about to say sorry, I'm about to call you my niece name. to Tyus' it's a lot of stuff that we can continue to talk about. It's a lot of stuff that we need to talk about. but I I definitely enjoyed being on here tonight and I hope I can't wait till you guys come on our show. but yeah, I'm gonna sign off before this phone sucks to deuce. Jhalil: Yeah, I was about to say, just shoot us the Tya Moore: Yeah. Jhalil: invite, we slide through. Deion: But look, Tya Moore: But it's in person though. Deion: let me tell y'all though, when y'all when y'all sign off, just keep the app open. Like don't swipe out of it so that it can fully upload. Sunny: Okay, so I just exit out of it. Tya Moore: it's- Deion: Huh, you can exit out, but just don't close the app. You know how you close an app? Sunny: Yeah. Deion: Just don't close it. Sunny: Okay. Tya Moore: So it's not going to affect that story got off, Deion: Her parts probably be cut up a little bit, but not like when she on here, she on here. Tya Moore: Okay. Sunny: So when I close it, I could Deion: But when she Sunny: just close and just don't close the app completely. Like you know how you close the apps on your phone, not that way. All right, so let me make sure, yeah, 'cause I'm not the Jhalil: Yeah. Yeah, you can exit the studio. Deion: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Sunny: 'cause this charger's not working, I gotta go put it on my actual charger in my room. All right, well thank you guys again Deion: Yeah, please. Sunny: and enjoy your night. Deion: Absolutely. Thank you. Y'all enjoy our night. Jhalil: Likewise, thank y'all so much. Sunny: Bye. Tya Moore: You too. Jhalil: And this is the volume shift. Sunny: Mm-hmm. Deion: We Jhalil: Mm-hmm.