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SDCC 2024, Skeleton Crew, Star Wars A New Dawn Review: Episode CLXXXIX · Star Wars Alliance

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  Speaker 1: The Force will be with you always. Hello and welcome
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: back to another episode of Star Wars Alliance. Of course,
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Clay and with me opening some sort
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  Speaker 1: of wrapper.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, girls, gotta eat.
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  Speaker 1: It's all good. It's all good, is of course, Katie, Katie,
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  Speaker 1: how are you doing today?
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  Speaker 2: You know this week is chaotic, but we're surviving. I'm
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  Speaker 2: at my mom if you're here on YouTube and wondering
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: what is going on with Katie? Setup like, she looks
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  Speaker 2: really weird right now. I don't have anything on my
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  Speaker 2: headphones and my laptop, so that's the deal. I also
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: have Mara in the background if you can hear her
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  Speaker 2: playing piano, so just FYI may have to get up
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  Speaker 2: if you're here alive, but if you're here on the podcast,
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  Speaker 2: Clay's going to do all the editing magic.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to try to do as much editing magic
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  Speaker 1: as I possibly can, which is always great. I always
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  Speaker 1: love a challenge. But you know, my day was surprisingly well.
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  Speaker 1: Went in for an interview for something that I am
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  Speaker 1: super excited about and crossing my fingers on if that
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  Speaker 1: is actually going to happen or not. I will talk
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  Speaker 1: more about it once I actually get the job. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not knock on wood. Yeah, I'm not like so superstitious,
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  Speaker 1: but like, I really need this to happen. So because
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know exactly what it was until I did
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  Speaker 1: a quick Google search and then I was like, holy crap, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is awesome. So so yeah, it's it's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a lot of fun. But either way, Santio con Con
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  Speaker 1: has came and went. It was super quick. Well, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna talk about the publishing panel went by even faster.
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  Speaker 1: It was so quick. All the news just.
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  Speaker 2: But a lot of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: It was a lot of stuff. Surprisingly, there was a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a surprise after the fact when it
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  Speaker 1: came to some publishing news as well, which we are
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  Speaker 1: going to be talking about. But yeah, we got some
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  Speaker 1: publishing news. We're gonna talk surprisingly about Skeleton Crew today,
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  Speaker 1: and of course our main topic of discussion is the
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  Speaker 1: Star Wars a New Dawn book review. This, of course,
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  Speaker 1: is a novel that was the first acknowledgment of Cortosis
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  Speaker 1: in canon. Uh so that's why it.
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  Speaker 2: Was also the very first canon book written, was it? Yep?
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  Speaker 1: So okay, hold on, it was the first canon book written.
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  Speaker 1: But the Lords of the Sith timeline wise, technically was
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  Speaker 1: the first book written? Right? I didn't we have this
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  Speaker 1: discussion before.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, Lords of the Sith was one of the first,
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  Speaker 2: but A New Dawn was the first.
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  Speaker 1: Ah?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So he had just written and published Knobi
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  Speaker 2: and then where was it? I don't remember where I
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  Speaker 2: was at. I thought there was like so like some
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  Speaker 2: of these books initial books for Cannon were written for
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  Speaker 2: legends and then repurposed for Cannon. So I was trying
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  Speaker 2: to figure out if it was one of those. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Miller was two Yeah, Miller was two thirds of the
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  Speaker 2: way through writing the novel when he was informed that
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  Speaker 2: it would be the first novel within the New Star
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  Speaker 2: Wars Cannon.
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  Speaker 1: And she is just she has an opinion of her
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  Speaker 1: own when.
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  Speaker 2: It comes to She's so talking right now.
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  Speaker 1: So uh, yes, we're gonna be talking about that book
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  Speaker 1: as well. But let's go ahead and start off with, uh,
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  Speaker 1: the San Diego comic Con. Let's go ahead and just
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  Speaker 1: jump right into that. Uh. From what I have in
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  Speaker 1: my notes here, the first thing that came out was
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  Speaker 1: you thought we were done with the Acolyte hal No,
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  Speaker 1: they said, hold my beer. And two prequel books from
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  Speaker 1: the timeline of the Acolyte have been announced. There is
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  Speaker 1: a untitled novel that is currently in the works that
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  Speaker 1: is h for It is based and Jackie, Yes, starring
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  Speaker 1: Jord and Jackie. And then the other novel is set
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  Speaker 1: twenty years prior. Oh go ahead, sorry.
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  Speaker 2: The Jord and Jackie novel is going to be written
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  Speaker 2: by Tessa Gratton who wrote Temptation of the Force.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that is that is I forgot that small detail. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: and then uh, the second novel is going to be
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  Speaker 1: a novel that's set twenty years before the show. So
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  Speaker 1: we know the timeline that is four years before the
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  Speaker 1: flashbacks in the show, So I want to put that
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  Speaker 1: into consideration as well, and that shows that it seemingly
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  Speaker 1: follows Vernestra and master in Dara. Now, you brought up
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  Speaker 1: a very interesting thing about this. Now I will say
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  Speaker 1: the novel that is being Justina Ireland is the one
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  Speaker 1: that is writing Yes, Way Seeker. That one actually has
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  Speaker 1: a title to it, Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And that makes me super excited because Vernesstra was Justina's
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  Speaker 2: character at the start. So for Justina to be able
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  Speaker 2: to write that transition piece like obviously, it's not like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: here's her one hundred year life between the High Republic
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  Speaker 2: and the Acolyte. But for her to be able to
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  Speaker 2: write the transition piece to get her to where we
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  Speaker 2: see her in the Accolyte is really special, I think to.
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  Speaker 1: Me, I think so as well, because not only do
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  Speaker 1: you get that the transition is all also a really
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  Speaker 1: nice point of being able to do a lot of
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  Speaker 1: callbacks to stuff that she did get to work on
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  Speaker 1: in phases one in three, you know, so, I think
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be very very fun as well. But
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  Speaker 1: you brought up a very interesting point the whole idea
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  Speaker 1: of why these two characters are featured in this novel,
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  Speaker 1: and you suggested that there is a possibility that Master
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  Speaker 1: and Dara was at one point a paddaw on of
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  Speaker 1: ver Nestra Rowe.
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  Speaker 2: I think it could be really interesting and it could
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  Speaker 2: tie in some kinder potential how we see Ernestra act
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  Speaker 2: as a master later on. But what interests me more
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  Speaker 2: is the title is way Seeker, which or Ladrini was
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  Speaker 2: a way seeker, Yeah, the independent Jedi of the Order.
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  Speaker 2: So who's the way seeker in this case? Is vernessha
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  Speaker 2: Like transitioning from being a way seeker.
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  Speaker 1: To council member.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm really interested to see how this works out.
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  Speaker 2: This book is due out in May. Did we get
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  Speaker 2: a date on the Oh yeah, Jord and Jackie is
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  Speaker 2: July of twenty twenty five, and so uh with the
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  Speaker 2: other book that we'll talk about, So that gives us
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  Speaker 2: the February book. Way Seeker is May sixth, twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 2: Trials of the Jedi is June twenty twenty five, and
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  Speaker 2: then Ord Jekie is July twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, very cool.
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  Speaker 2: The Yord and Jeckie book is also the first uh
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  Speaker 2: non High Republic uh Disney book that we're going to
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  Speaker 2: be getting in over a year.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, that is uh, that is something that that
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  Speaker 1: is happening.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really excited about this.
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  Speaker 1: Of course I have a new hm. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: say hatred, it's not hatred, but we as a community
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  Speaker 1: should be looking at the Jedi a little differently after
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  Speaker 1: the Acolyte, just saying, so, how does this keep the
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  Speaker 1: same light that you know, we love the High Republic
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  Speaker 1: to be while also still paving the way to where
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  Speaker 1: they will inevitably be in the Acolyte show, Because I
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  Speaker 1: think that's a big thing too, So I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Think you're gonna have a whole lot of light in
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  Speaker 2: this case because you have to show the transition, right,
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  Speaker 2: So that's to show the growth of the character and
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  Speaker 2: like while introducing new ones. So I will be interested
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  Speaker 2: to see how it goes. I think this is just
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  Speaker 2: Sina Ireland's first adult book actually, because Way Seeker is
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  Speaker 2: a Random House World's book, So it'll be interesting to
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  Speaker 2: see her writing style or that, because what I've only
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  Speaker 2: seen from her is the middle grade books and then
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  Speaker 2: the young adult books. Yeah, so, but I have complete
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  Speaker 2: faith in her. Her books have been some of my favorites,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm really excited by the prospect. So the next
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  Speaker 2: bit of news we have, so everyone was thinking that
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  Speaker 2: Cavin Scott's High Republic twenty three run was very short
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  Speaker 2: at only eight issues, but it is actually getting an
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  Speaker 2: additional run the Fear of the Jedi, and it's going
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  Speaker 2: to tie in with the Kal Knaka one shot that
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  Speaker 2: we're getting in September. But the Fear of the Jedi
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  Speaker 2: is going to be starting February of twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 2: so it's getting a little bit of a break and
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  Speaker 2: then it will be continuing with uh, Kiev, kal Knaka,
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  Speaker 2: Lorna De and some others that I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: spoil because we will be talking about those later on.
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  Speaker 2: This will but I enjoy that, and especially to get
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  Speaker 2: kil Naka involved in that. That'll be a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be really really fun to see his
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  Speaker 1: development as a character, because we didn't see a lot
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  Speaker 1: of development in the show. Uh, of course we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: see where he's at. I can't remember the kal Knaka
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  Speaker 1: one shot. Was that supposed to be set after the
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  Speaker 1: events of the flashback? Or is it?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's a Republic tie in.
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  Speaker 1: So oh, because I thought there was somebody that said, uh,
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  Speaker 1: the tattoo on his head has to do with something
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  Speaker 1: with like his like self banishment.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I may be wrong. So here so okay, hang on,
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  Speaker 2: So here he is cooking and doesn't he have the
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  Speaker 2: tattoo right here? Isn't that the tattoo?
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  Speaker 1: That is a good question. How not the.
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  Speaker 2: That's not it?
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  Speaker 1: There's nowhere that shows Oh wait, actually I see so
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  Speaker 1: there's a shot of him. No, there's a shot of
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  Speaker 1: him actually talking to a young Osha outside of their
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  Speaker 1: ship when it's daylight and you can actually see the
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  Speaker 1: tattoo on his head. Okay, So so I was mistaken.
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  Speaker 2: So but it may be how he gets the tattoo.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, because because I thought I heard somebody say that, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: there will be an explanation of why he has the
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  Speaker 1: tattoo or whatever. So that'll be fun. But also it
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  Speaker 1: helps us with like the rate. Now I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: they'll give us a specific like age, but like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Fear the Jedi has some of the characters that we
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  Speaker 1: are seeing in Phase three, and we're seeing him in
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  Speaker 1: the act light one hundred years later, so like how
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  Speaker 1: long has he been a Jedi at this point? You know?
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: Is he yeah, just starting out? Is he a new Jedi? Night? Like,
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  Speaker 1: that's the stuff that I'm interested in. Some of the
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  Speaker 1: lore of that would be nice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So the one shot says, delve deep into the history
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  Speaker 2: of Kolm Knaka in the world of the Higher Republic
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  Speaker 2: in this bombastic one shot. It also includes an exclusive
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  Speaker 2: interview with Jonas Swotama, the Kal Knaka actor. So yeah,
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: that's just kind of what it says. Oh yeah, he said,
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  Speaker 2: uh oh the comic. In the interview about the comic,
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: Scott said he was excited to connect the act Lite
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  Speaker 2: with previous Higher Republic media, and that kil Knaka was
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: the perfect character to do so. He also revealed that
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  Speaker 2: the comic would explain the meeting behind the kill Knaka's
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  Speaker 2: mysterious tattoos.
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  Speaker 1: So there you go, boom, there we go. Uh So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: lots of fun. Looking forward to reading all of that.
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  Speaker 1: But the other news that we received, and I just
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: want to make sure that I'm not skipping over anything,
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  Speaker 1: what we are also getting from that panel was the
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Art of the Higher Republic by Christian Volume two by
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  Speaker 1: Christian Baber. I love this cover. It's so good, is amazing. Now.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing.
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  Speaker 2: Is it says cover not final, cover.
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  Speaker 1: Not final for one, but that's seemingly avar yep. Then
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: we have Vernestra. Who is that?
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: That's Bell?
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: No? Yeah, Bell has had so many different hairstyles in
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  Speaker 1: the Higher Republic, which I appreciate, but also like, I
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  Speaker 1: think he's looked different in everywhere that he actually has,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: like art and like showing of him, he's looked different
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  Speaker 1: than every single one. So that's the only thing that
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: gets me bet, Like, who is this person? Yeah? I
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: don't remember him having a green lightsaber? Though I think
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  Speaker 1: he's sill.
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  Speaker 2: He swapped because he lost it in the rising storm.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's right, Yeah, that's right. So that's awesome, beautiful art.
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  Speaker 1: I do hope that it is the final cover because
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: you also have the Nameless behind them with the eyes. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it just it looks great. I absolutely love it. We do.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: There was another in this thread that says that we
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  Speaker 1: are also getting a visual guide to the Acolyte as well.
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  Speaker 2: By Pablo Hidalgo, so that's exciting.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it is coming out July of twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: so in about a year from now. And they also
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  Speaker 1: had a.
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  Speaker 2: The Art of the Acolyte, which is also by Kristen Baber.
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  Speaker 2: It does contain a foreword by Leslie Headlund, who also
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  Speaker 2: appeared via video at the panel, and she said for
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  Speaker 2: light in life at the end, so like, I love that.
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  Speaker 2: So that's all exciting. The other part of the panel
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: was kind of a deep dive interview with the actors
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: the voice actors of Star Wars Outlaws, so that is
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: all the quotes and everything. Start Us Records was at
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  Speaker 2: the panel and they tweeted a whole thread, so thank
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: you very much for live tweeting this up You're the
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: reason that we're able to talk about these things because
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: otherwise what we do. So they have all the quotes
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: and stuff from interview within that. The other part of
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Star Wars Outlaws is but why though a great local
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: not a great small site, indie news site run by
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Kate Sanchez, she was able to do an interview with
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: the actress for Kaves, Humberly Gonzalez, and the narrative director
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Navid Kavari, about Kaves, her journey and impact of having
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: a Latina lead in Star Wars video games. So I
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: did not get a chance to read this interview, but
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: I highly encourage you to go read this. Kate is
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: an incredible interviewer, so I'm very excited to get to
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: read this later. So, yeah, there's that. Uh, do you
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: want to talk about the reactions that we got to
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: some of the content creators and outlets that got to
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: play Star Wars Outlets just kind of give people an
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  Speaker 2: idea of what too.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's go ahead and take a look at that.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: So this comes from Star Wars News, not saying various
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: content creators and outlets have gotten a chance to play
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: four hours of Star Wars Outlaws from IGN I'm not
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: sure Outlaws will master any of its gameplay components. It's
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: nonetheless not only does them all very well, but it
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: does so with a convincing Star Wars machine. So one
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: thing that I have been seeing a lot from the
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: general audience and kind of their opinions, and sometimes it's like,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: you know, the the whole like push up glasses. You know, oh,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I'm smarter than the type of people also trying to
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: say this that you know, graphics may not look one
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: like some of the biggest games out there, take it
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  Speaker 1: for what it is. This game does the gorgeous I've
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: seen a lot of the gameplay that has been released.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I've kind of stayed away from a lot of the
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: heavy story trailers because I don't want to spoil myself
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: and I want to have the full experience. But I
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: have been seeing people say that, like, Okay, this doesn't
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: look like the most amazing game everywhere. But it's what
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: we've been saying along every form of media is not
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: everything needs to be bombastic. It's okay to have okay things.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: It's okay to have great things, it's okay to have
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: amazing things. It's the wide variety that I'm looking for
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: when it comes to Star Wars. Content from Star Wars
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: explains says, everything I experienced was promising. There was some
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: gameplay hiccups here and there, but nothing that I felt
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: was a deal breaker. We played for four hours and
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I feel like we barely scratched the surface. And I
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: see that as a good sign. Let's see here trying
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: to get some other individual that may be bigger in
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: the space that people know about. No one really that
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I recognize. But from g T twenty seven status, none
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: of the content felt overwhelming, which is good. Which is
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: a good feeling to have, especially in a ubisoff game,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: which is known to do quite the opposite and distract
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: you every step of the way. This is also something
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: that has a lot of gamers like worried about outlaws.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Is hey, you know, let's push all of this content
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: out as well as hey, we're gonna put an inside
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: stores so that way you can, you know, spend all
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: your money there and all these other things. And from
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: the sound of not feeling very overwhelmed is fun because
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: more often than than not, a lot of people, since
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I would say about COVID, people want cozy game. People
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: want something that you're going to be able to sit
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: down and enjoy your time with seeing that in a
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: lot of these reactions for Outlaws. So I'm very excited about.
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  Speaker 2: That, Yeah, for sure. And I'm excited to watch Matt play.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: I think MAT's already pre ordered it.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: It's yep.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and I will cozy up with a book and
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: watching the video games. So that's all on Outlaws, No
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: people dot com. I do not want you to send
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: me notifications, not at all, all right. So the other
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: small piece of news that we have is it looks
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: like Crimson Rain is going to be collected as an omnibus,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: and that is due out in April twenty twenty five.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: It's going to collect the whole mini series for Crimson Rain,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Star Wars Volume three, so that's issues nineteen through twenty five,
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Bounty Hunters eighteen through twenty four, Darth Vader Volume three
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: eighteen to twenty four, and Doctor Afra Volume two sixteen
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  Speaker 2: to twenty one. So that's what you can expect for
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  Speaker 2: their I would assume after this they're going to do
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: a Hidden Empire omnibus just to kind of knock all
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: three out. I'm not planning on picking this one up.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I've kind of figured out that omnibusses just aren't for me.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: They look super cool, but I also enjoy I do
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: enjoy reading my physical media, even though I have access
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: to them like VI on Marvel Unlimited and things. But
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: eventually I'm going to drop Marble Unlimited and I'd like
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: to go back and read the physical copies. But an
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: omnibus is just gigantic.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: It's massive, and there's a lot of people, Katie. It's
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: gonna sound crazy, but there are people that literally buy
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: these things just for decor because they look that nice.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: And I don't blame them. They look amazing, but these
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: are very equatable to that of what we used to call.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know if a lot of people use them anymore,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: but coffee table books. They're huge, So I can totally
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: understand not jumping on the omnibus bandwagon.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: If yeah, something like this would be a little more
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: manageable because it's not that many issues. But like, the
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: only thing I could pick up for the first run
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: of Doctor Afra was the omnibus. They didn't make the trades,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: like they weren't making the epic collections at the time,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: so I couldn't grab those and the Doctor Afro omnibus
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: is a thousand pages. Yeah, he's ridiculous, But like Canaan
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: for instance, is twenty five issues, that's not that bad.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: The Charles Sole Darth Vader run twenty five issues not
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: a bad omnibus, but like a thousand pages, like come on, really,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: like that's ridiculous.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: It gets a little overwhelming sometimes because you know, for me,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: me and Chris had this conversation in the idea of
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: getting the Invincible Omnibuses versus or getting the hardcover volumes
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: other than the compendium, and the reason being the compendium
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: only comes in paperback. With it being a stack of
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: over a thousand pages, you start to bend that spine
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: and it can really start to damage the book. So yeah,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: that's why for me, I've stayed away from the compendium
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: off of Chris's recommendation, and I just went with the
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: graphic novels. So something to consider for those of you
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: who haven't really looked into omnibuses that much, But yeah,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: do your research if it's not something that you'll be
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: able to lug around when it really isn't, like if
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: you're like, hey, let's take this, you know, on the
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: on the plane while I go fly. It's it's hefty,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: and I think it might actually surpass the weight limit
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: for a carry on.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I went underbers bet on that. All right,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: So should we talk about the other piece of book
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: news that we got.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Yes, this one is very exciting. Uh only well for
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: two reasons. Uh we get to confirm the identity of
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: For one, yes, it does exist.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: But two I thought it was really cool the way
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: they revealed it. Tom wanted to have some fun on Twitter,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: and he wanted to have some fun on Twitter, and
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: he actually made it into a guessing game. He said, Hey, guys,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: if anybody can guess what this book is about before
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I reveal it, I'll give out a free copy of
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: the book. So it was, I believe from when I
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: am looking at our timeline, it was the twenty ninth.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: It was the twenty eighth when he started to open
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: up that guessing game, and it was the twenty ninth
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: when it was revealed. Tom revealed that somebody got the
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: right era, like the right around the same time frame
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: as when the book is supposed to be taking place
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: in the topic, but not necessarily the exact subject. But
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: because they were so close, he is going to go
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: ahead and send them a copy of this novel, and Katie,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: you want to go ahead and share that reveal.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, So this is a brand new Star Wars book
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: trilogy which has been previously done with Aftermath and Alphabet Squadron.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: And so this trilogy is entitled Star Wars Reign of
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: the Empire. Oh, I'm sorry. The other trilogy is Thrown Ascendency.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I forgot about that one. And in Tom's tweet, he
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: says this is a trilogy charting the rise of the
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Rebellion across the near two decades between episode three and
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: episode four. The first book is entitled The Mask of
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Fear and it is by Alexander Freed. The next two
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: books are by Rebecca Ronehorse and fran wild.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Yes, and you did a little bit of research for me,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: or at least you filled in some information for me.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: You told me everything that these individuals have written in
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: the Star Wars universe.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: So, fran Wilde wrote no contingency in the From a
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Certain point of View Returns. Freed wrote Alphabet Squadron, Rogue
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: One and Battlefront Twilight Company, along with two short stories
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: in The New.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Hope From a Certain Point of view and Empire Strikes
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Back from a certain point of view.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Ronhorse wrote Resistance Reborn, So I am not
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: familiar with Resistance Reborn, but I have read both A
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: New Hope and Empire Strikes Back, so I've had a
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: little bit of their writing from Wild and Freed, so
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: very exciting things. So on this we'll go ahead, go ahead.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: So sorry, just to give some context. Fred also wrote
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: some Star Wars Legends comics, but I didn't include those here,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: just to kind of summarize their cannon work. But Alphabet
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Squadron is a trilogy that takes place right after Return
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: of the Jedi and is about a fighter squadron of
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: different ships. He also wrote the The Rogue One obviously
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: novel adaptation, and then Battlefront Toilet Company. I have not
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: had the chance to read, but that is also that's
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: based on the video game. So Resistance Reborn is about
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: it transitions uh the Last Jedi to Rise of the Skywalker,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Rise of Skywalker, and so she writes about how the
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Resistance tries to get more people involved in the failings
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: in that and then kind of rates the interactions with
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Poe and Leah to kind of get Poe to grow
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: up a little bit more in that case, especially since
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: we knew that Carrie Fisher had died at that point,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: so this story was going to be transitioning and not
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: able to tackle her as much. So this is really
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: well done story by Rebecca, and I know some of
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: her other books are really well loved, So I'm glad
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: to see I Love Friend, wild Manmathma Story and Return
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: and from a certain point of view, Returns. Freed writes
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: incredibly and like I said, I loved Resistance Reporns. So
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: all three of these authors super excited to see these
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: come out. I am wondering about the release schedule, and
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: they're only it's only a year apart, So it's Mask
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: of Fear is February twenty fifth, twenty twenty five, and
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: then book two is Spring twenty twenty six. Book three
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: is Spring for twenty seven, so it's only a year apart.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: But like you have other authors, like the same author
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: is not writing the whole.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Trilogy, So I do have an opinion on that, and
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: I think what it has to do is the newly
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: like setup that Charles Soul and everybody at the High
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Republic and the way that they decided to go with
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: in in Phase three, they said that they wanted to
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: make a point to not have so many so many
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: releases in one year, so that way readers didn't feel overwhelmed.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: And I think this might be an actual, like good
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: basis for a plan with probably all of Star Wars
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: novels moving forward. And I know, oh, it's a little
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: trickly tricky based off of not all of Star Wars
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: books are under one publisher, you know, Disney, Random House, Worlds,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: all these other things. Right, So I think what they
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: are doing as publishing as a whole is saying, hey,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: we're going to make this wide release of novels make
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: more sense for the quote unquote average reader. So instead
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: of having this entire trilogy come out in say a
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: year and a half, they're like, Okay, if you were
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: picking this up because you are a Star Wars fan,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: you are most likely picking up all of our other novels.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: So we're going to pace these out so that way
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: you can pick up other things and not just this
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: one trilogy. I think that is ultimately the goal for
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Lucasfilm Publishing.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes sense. I guess I'm just used to
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: like legends really, sorry, y'all have a baby fat me
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: for sleep. You're okay, I guess. I'm just used to
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: the Star Wars Leggend series where it was like you
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: had Spring and then you had Fault. You had Spring
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: and then you had Fault, and it's just kind of
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: continued based on that, especially when you had other authors involved.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: So but like you said, that makes sense to like
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: spread out, and then that gives you an opportunity for
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: a fall release with something else if you want to,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: And I think more so we were spoiled with the
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: High Republic Initiative having like all of these waves planned
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: out and coming out through you know, throughout the year
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: and everything else. Uh So when something new comes, you're like, okay,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: like we're going to be seeing this come out pretty quickly,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: but instead, you know, it's going to take a full
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: three years for this to come into a conclusion, from
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: the announcement all the way until we actually see the
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: finale of this trilogy. Some things that I actually wanted
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: to bring up in this thread that Tom wrote over
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: the weekend or I guess two days ago, not over
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: the weekend. Either way, I highly recommend you go through
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: all of this thread. So go check out Tom at
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: darth interness on Twitter. So the things that I wanted
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: to bring up on this thread, He says, the entire
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: goal of this trilogy was to tell stories with this. Well, first,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: before I go to this one, he says, you want
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: more Star Wars Reign of the Empire details, here's the
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: thread on them. First. The book one title is, of course,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Bask of Fear. He says, oppression is the mask of fear.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: This is a quote from Mnemic. This is not a
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: direct and or tie in, not a Knemic book, is
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: what he is saying, but that perfectly captures the tone
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: of what this story will be about. He says, the
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: entire goal of the trilogy was to tell stories with
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: the same intent, specific specificity, sense of place and people
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: and saying something is real, or saying something real that
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: and Or does you know that whole entire feeling that
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: we got from and Or was like, holy crap, this
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: is like the oppression and the darkness and like you
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: are in the thick of it. This is what this
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: trilogy is going to be about. He said. We wanted
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: to honor that the best we could acknowledging it's a
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: bit of a ludicrous and lofty goal. He does say
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: here that each book will cover one portion of the
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: near twenty year gap, starting with book one during Empire
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: year one. The series will jo forward with each book.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: We're really taking advantage of the amount of time so
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: each book can be a full, complete story, he says,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: kind of like House of the Dragon Season one did,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: so for those of you who are fans of House
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: of the Dragon, they're kind of taking inspiration on how
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: the time is moving in this trilogy. So there is that,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: And then the last thing that I want to bring up,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: he says, Man Mafma, Sagarera, and Bail Organa are absolutely
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: our pillar characters. But this series is also going to
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: introduce new and original characters, some who will pass from
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: book to book and brow change and evolve across the series.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: So very very fun things to look forward to in
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: this new trilogy. You know, of course, Travis doesn't necessarily
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: love this because it is in the quote unquote dark time,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: but it is from what we've experienced in and or
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: some of the greatest time to do some real stories.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: So yeah, and.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Tom actually addressed that because somebody talked about it. I
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: can't locate the tweet at the moment, y'all, So I'm sorry,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: but to the best of my recall, he said that
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: this was absolutely something they considered that this time period
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: had been covered multiple times already, but that's why they
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: decided to tell more of a political based story and
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: how the rebellion gets started and kind of the consequences
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: and successes that go along with that, telling more niche
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: story versus kind of a general conflict area.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: So it's also nice that they acknowledge it, though, Like
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: that's the big thing that I saw from that. So
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: but I think that is it for all of the
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: publishing news.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: All right, y'all, we're going to hit our first ad
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: break and we will be right back in three two.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: One, and I think we can go on to the
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: news that we got today.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Which I'm so happy we got it today. Thank you
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Disney for dropping this on a Wednesday and not on
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Thursday like you typically do.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: We usually get Star Wars news on Thursday. But the
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: news that we got from People Magazine is Skeleton Crew
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: is going to be premiering on Disday plus December third.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, we have a date, Yes, a date, so exciting.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: I'm really pumped by this. So the pictures first look
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: is all on people dot com and I believe it's
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: an interview specifically with Jus Law about different elements of
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: the show and everything. But can you pull up the pictures?
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's go ahead and jump here and I
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: will share my screen. She's so close, ye, So looking
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: at the people website, let's go to the first picture.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: This one has been going around. Of course. This was
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: actually a part of the sizzle reel, you know screenshot
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: that they showed. Gosh, was it two years ago? Now?
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I can't actually, yeah, I don't think.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: This was part of the trailer that they showed, like,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: this was part of like the press release that they did.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: But it's a picture law for listeners with the kids
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: behind him, and Jude Law is kind of like smiling
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: off like huzza, like I'm ready for adventure almost.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the first photo that we've already seen.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: The new photos that we have are characters Neil and Whim.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: These are played by Robert Timothy Smith and Robbie kabbat
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Kun yeers. So they look like they are on some
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: sort of speeders. They're actually walking these speeders through what
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: looks like a forest. I really like the tones that
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: we're already seeing from compared to one photo to the next. Yeah,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: I really enjoy that. We next get a photo of
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Jude Law and all of the kids in the ship,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: says we are and I guess this is the first
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: confirmation of the character names as well. From left to right,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: we are seeing whim uh John now John non now
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Wood is uh Oh, that's actually Jude Law's character is
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: uh jod Nonawwood is his name? Weird, KB, Neil and
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Fern are all the characters that we're gonna be dealing
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: with in the Skeleton Crew. And then we also have
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: a picture here that has a droid. It is thirty three.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Yep, and he is voiced by Nick Frost.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, which I'm actually really excited about Nick Frost. Uh
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: is a little bit of a comfort actor for me,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: of course. He shoot, I just had one of his
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: favorite roles in my head and then it just disappeared.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: I have no idea who he is. If that makes
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: you feel.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Better, So I will actually show you, because I did
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: actually pull up an article in r Guy Chat earlier today.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: If it hasn't already been taken down, I don't think
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: it has right here, so I will show this one.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: So I know that you've seen this guy because he
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: was Santa Claus in Peter Capaldi's.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Special Wow, No Go to Sleep. Sorry that she was
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: so close. Okay, So.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Nick Frost had played Santa Claus. He was in
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Shanna the Dead, he was in oh what was that
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: alien movie? Alan? I think it was called the one
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: with Seth Rogan and Simon Pegg. I can't name remember
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: the name of it, but yeah, he says he's like
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: a rusty, old, cranky droid that sort of reluctantly helps
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: the kids along the way. So in my mind, a
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: lot of like the Fun Droids and Star Wars have
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: a little bit of sass. Sounds like thirty three is
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: gonna have a little bit of sass in this show
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: as well, so looking forward to it. That's I don't
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: know if there was anything else pertaining to Skeleton Crew
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: that really showed up in our feeds.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this was the big interview. I think the biggest
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: thing was the character names and then Nick Frost. They
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: did and I'm only saying this because of the title
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: of the People article. They say, there's a lot of
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Easter eggs that you'll be able to catch, as well
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: as some direct references to how a New Hope, Empire,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Strike's Back, and Return of the Jedi were all filmed,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: like just the way they were filmed. Yeah, so that'd
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: be interesting to see. I'm not a huge fan of like,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, here's Easter eggs, Like why do you have
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: to like, why do you have to say there's a
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: lot of Easter eggs?
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Like, I know, I think like one of the big
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: things that we had learned prior to this interview was
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: the fact that there was a lot of inspiration to
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: like go back and use some of like old school
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: filmography for this show. So that's that's nothing new yet,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: but we'll see how all of that plays out when
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: we actually review it at the beginning of December. So
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, I mean twenty twenty four, we technically
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: got it right, but right off the cusp, just like
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Boba fet So that is it for our new segment.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: We don't have anything else there to talk about, So
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: let's go ahead and move right into our review. In
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: our main topic for tonight, which is Star Wars a
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: New Dawn.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: We're gonna go into our second ad break and we'll
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: be right back.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: This is, of course, like Katie said, the first canon
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: novel of Disney Star Wars.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: And.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: This is the movie. This is the story of how
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Canaan and Harrah Met. So, Katie, you have read this
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: one before? Correct?
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: No?
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: I have not. This was the first time I read it.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Wow. So this is a first for both of us.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: This is gonna be fun.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: It's like it's like the first time this happened.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: Right, I mean that from from a novel that is older. Yes,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: of course we read new books all the time, but
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: this is the first time that we are both jumping
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: on board to a new or an older book that
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: is new for both of us. Of course. The author
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: of this is John Jackson Miller, with a forward from
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Dave Faloney. So, Katie, how did you feel about the Well,
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I'll say this, this was a little bit harder for
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: me to get through. I found myself dozing a lot
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: while listening to this, But I will say this flowed
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: and just of course, these are some very iconic characters
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: and loving characters in one of the best relationship goals
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: in Star Wars. This felt like a Rebels episode, like
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: a very long Rebels episode to like the jokes to
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: kind of like the the same way that characters inside
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Rebels sneak around the empire facilities and all of that,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: like it all had it had everything in there, which
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: I thought was really really fun.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I really every time I talk character, sorry, where
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: was uh I really enjoyed getting these perspectives on Canaan
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: and Harrah. I also kind of really enjoyed Skelly and
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: is it Saluna? Yes, yeah, they. Miller actually really developed
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: them all quite nicely. It was nice to see him
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: tackle a smaller cast. M h like even Videan. Videan
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: like the the main villain in this case was like
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: really well developed and like had a neat backstory, He
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: had motives and everything. He Miller was very tight knit
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: with this one. I enjoyed this one a lot more
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: than I did the Living Force, I think it and
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: again I think it's particular particularly because of the small
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: cast uh involved. I like that we start off and
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: this doesn't really pertain to the biggest the big parts
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: of the story that I like, the big the prologue where.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Prolog rips rips my heart apart, that's what it does.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: The opening has uh Obi Wan Kenobi teaching uh uh
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: no shoot, yeah, including Canaan, and you know, and he
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: is telling them about the protocol that they have to
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: get a hold of every Jedi out in the galaxy.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Of course we know that this is very very relevant
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: to our wars because obi Wan himself has had to use.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: It and one actually gives him the idea.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's what is so heartbreaking. The transition from
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: the prologue to this book to immediately going to Canaan
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: makes you realize, like, oh man, like.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: It just rips your heart out.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: It does, like the fact that he was bold enough
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: to even question, hey, why, like what about if we
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: tell everybody to leave Chorussant or leave the Jedi temple?
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: And like everybody's laughing at him. Other masters are kind
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: of like whispering and everything else. And obi Wan makes
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: it a teachable moment, which I absolutely love. And then
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: it goes into the actual call that one had to make,
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: uh to make everybody leave and not go back to
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: the temple. Again, truly heartbreaking. You know, you talk about
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: the the small cast of characters, Skelly. We are introduced
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: to Canaan, his way of life, his job, all of
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: these different things. And Skelley right off the bat is
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: a character that really rubs you the wrong way unfortunately
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: throughout the entire book, but you understand why, Like he
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: has this persona that in a way is like like
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: very much like I'm sure you you guys have met
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: this individual. I wouldn't say in your everyday living, but
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: you've met him once or twice. It's the guy that
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: the conspiracy theorist that like just you know, a broken
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: clock is right twice a day, you know type thing.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: And Skelly is definitely that person. I I really dug
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: the voice that they gave Canaan in this book, because
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: at first I was like, this isn't Canaan, Like what
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: the hell? You know, the whole like ladies man swave like,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: but this is this is a Canaan that hasn't met
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Hara yet, like you know. So that's that's the thing
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: that finally hit me when he finally does meet Haraah.
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: But how did you feel about like the meeting of Haarah,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: their mission what it eventually got to like, how did
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: you feel about all that?
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: I really enjoyed the mystique that Haarah put up that
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: she was like it feels like.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: This is very early in the stages of forming the rebellion,
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: and we obviously know that she's kind of young at
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: this point, but she's still very cautious.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: She's not overly sharing information. She's trying to find things
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: we don't get like a whole lot of rebellion. Sorry, y'all,
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: I just live on alarms these days. We don't get
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: a whole lot of like rebellion set up in this book,
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: it definitely feels like, hey, we've been given this mission,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: let's complete the mission, and like Season one Rebels style,
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: like you said, like a very long episode of Rebels
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: where there's just enough information to give you what you
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: need to know basically. So yeah, I really enjoyed Mistique
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: Hara put off and like that she didn't just fall
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: for Cannon immediately, like it had to build up, and
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: like she knew there was something intriguing about him, but
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: she didn't want to like throw it all at him immediately,
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: and like, oh, okay, he doesn't want to stick around,
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: but like I'd like to see what he could do
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: kind of thing, so like can I convince him to
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: stick around? Uh? So all that is just very good setup.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: M It also speaks to like how Harrah can really
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: read people, and like even here, like this is the
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: supposedly our first meeting of Harah in canon technically, so
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: you read this and you don't have the motherly era
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: that we have in Rebels, but at the exact same time,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: she still has that even this early on in canon,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: she still is very much caring of others. Hey, this
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: is important to me, but like we also have to
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: look after these people, and these people we also meet
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: our antagonists, our villain very early on in this book
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: as well, with that being.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: Count Vidon.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, Count Videon, I was gonna say, Captain Count Vidon
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: the Cyborg and you actually get to finally, like near
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: the end of the book, you get his backstory and
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: how he was a random nobody in the Empire that
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: you know, just was not getting the best reputation. He
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: wasn't getting Palpatine to really see him for anything. And
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: finally he's like, you know what, this accident is a
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: blessing in disguise. The old me is dead, the new
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: one's back. All of these rumors are circulating about me.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: I'll let them fester and then I will roll with it,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: which is absolutely insane. To think about in the sense
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: of how evil this guy really, like the energy he
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: puts off from like the very beginning of when we
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: meet him in this book. You know, so I dug
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: this character. He was very intense with like, oh, I
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: can see you with my infra red vision, I have
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: like acute hearing. I can dial into radios without even
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: like touching things, like like he he is a cyborg,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: and it's very very intense in some cases. How did
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: you feel about about him as a character, as the
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: villain of the story, and how we inevitably get through
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: this hump as you know the Rebels.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed getting an industrialist, imperial person that wasn't necessarily
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: like we must beat up everyone and anyone, even though
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: that is his personality. But he's got more brains behind
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: It is like he's very analytical when like the whole
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: point of this crisis conflict that takes place is that
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: the emperor is looking to increase mineral production so that
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: they can build more start destroyers, and the quotas are
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: out of control, and uh, they would never be able
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: to hit those numbers, so things build out of that.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: So he's just very analytical. It is like best case,
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: worst case scenario, like, hey, like, what can we do here?
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: So his counterpart in the Imperial Navy at this point
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: is actually Captain Ray Sloan, who I believe was one
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: of the first well she's she's mentioned that her story
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: continues in the Aftermath trilogy, but I believe she's one
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: of the only female Grand admirals. But she's also a
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: black female, so very good character representation here. Uh So, yeah,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: she doesn't. She plays a role, but she's not a
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: main character in this story. I would say, would you
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: agree with that?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: Yes and no, because she inevitably, well not inevitably, because
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: she kind of does a uh double cross double cross
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: uh with with Canaan. There's a moment where or several
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: moments that she is kind of like an intricate part
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: of like play moving forward in the sense of she
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: is the one that just in happenstance being in charge
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: of what she's being in charge of, you know, things
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: are starting to kind of fall down and dominoes around her,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: and she's just like, hold on, what's going on here,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Let's look at this, Let's look at that. And so, yeah,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: she isn't a main player, but she is definitely a
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: supporting pillar in this story. I believe now remind me
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: because I just looked at the Wikipedia for her page,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: and I immediately recognized the photo because wasn't there some
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: sort of speculation that there was an actress that looked
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: a lot like Ray s Loan's picture here in the Wikipedia.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: I want to say that we've actually shared it in
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: our Star Wars Alliance chat like somebody was like, hold
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: on a second, wasn't it Jodie Turner Smith that people
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: were like, hold on, like now, of course the timeline
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: just didn't match up or whatever. But because I I
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: could have sworn ah no, so uh rumor Angela Bassett
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: met Lucasfilm for a role in Star Wars, That's what
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: it was. And then people were saying, holy crap, could
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: she be a Racelan? Yeah, if Angela Bassett was going
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: to be Race Loan, I do hope. Shit, it is
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: a much bigger pillar, you know, of of a characterization
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: in whatever story they are trying to develop with that.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: But either way, I dug this the like we were
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: saying the uh count uh forgot his name again? Uh
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: videan videan. I I also like how at one point.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Very early in the book. Uh, he encounters Kanaan and
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Canaan's not taking any of his ship like he He's like, hey,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: you can't do that. He's, of course the you know,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: lighthearted Jedi, you know he that's who he is. He
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: is somebody who's going to stick up for others, and
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: Videan just is like, you know, you were too small
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: for me whatever, Like you were nothing to me. Uh.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: And it even calls back near the end of the
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: book when they finally meet again. He's like, oh, you
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: were so insignificant that I deleted your five from my
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: memory banks. But I never forget a face. And I
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: was like, okay, Like apparently he was significant enough, you
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: know that you remember who he is. But I dug
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: him as the stone cold because one one other thing
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: with with Sloan was when Canaan eventually got to talk
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: to her and was like, Hey, this is what's gonna happen,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: which again I it is the it is the one
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: constant in Star Wars. It's like, hey, what is the
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Empire doing. Oh, They're gonna blow up a massive piece
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: of space and that's the entire plot to this is
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: like heyn going to explode.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Well, keep in mind, that's what Legends did a lot
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: weapons of mass destruction for a big thing. So it's
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: Miler's going off buddy notes, but.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: It's it's such a mustache twirling plot device, you know,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: it really is. But you know, Canaan finds this out,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: talks to Sloan, and Sloan actually confronts Vivian about it.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: At one point. She's like, hey, they said that you
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: were gonna do this, and he like plays it off.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: He's like, oh, really that's what they said, Like I'm
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: some sort of espionage you know, blah blah blah blah blah.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: And she's like, yeah, like could could you believe it
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: like that? Like why would they ever say that? And
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: it's just again that he was the perfect mustache twirling
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: villain for this story. And I actually really really dug it.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: A surprising character that I didn't think I was gonna
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: like that much because of the way they depicted her
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: very early on in the book was uh Ziluna. Zoluna
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: is a character that has worked at her job for
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: I actually don't know how old Zeluna is in the
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: universe here.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know how old she is either, but she'd
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: worked at the job for thirty years.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she she worked there for a very long time.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: And she has referenced many many times in this book
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: of like oh yeah, back in my day, and like
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: how she talks about how like she's met Jedi before
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: and uh, she's done this and this and this before
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: Canaan was even born and like all of these other things.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: But she is the type of person that is fully
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: dedicated to her job. And the whole entire reason and
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: why she's caught up into this story is because one
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: of her employees co workers, was actually a informant for Hararah.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: And when they get questioned by stormtroopers and let go
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: and fired, Zeluna is the one that falls upon this
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: information and decides to follow the breadcrumbs to Harah. And
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: you know, this is when she starts to we see
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: the converting from someone who and I wouldn't even say converting.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: Converting is such like a weird term for this, because she,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: like I said, it, is just committed to her job,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: not necessarily an individual that is like I am for
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: the Empire, Long Live the Empire type of person. You know,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: she talks about how she loves her job the entire
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: pace book or whatever, but she questions the things that
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: have happened. She is by the book on a lot
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: of these different things, and when she finally realizes, hey,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: like things are bad, it's a little too late because
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: she finds out, Oh, the Empire was at our office.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: They've noticed that I've been gone for a couple of days.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: They're gonna know that my last meeting you guys, I'm
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: done for So I guess I'm part of the rebellion now.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: And I really dug her story, Like it was a
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: little silly that she got stuck in like a room
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: closet basically inside of the ship and they just couldn't
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: hear her for like three days, which is insane. But Yeah,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: really really loved Zuluna. I think she is the underdog
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: character in this yeah.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: Because she just seems to know kind of everything means
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: to happen, which obviously you all have to like have
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: that character involved, like the one he can like go,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: oh no, this is exactly what we need to do.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: So yeah, she was great. I loved her. And to
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: get another Slason, I feel like they're really rare characters
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: and Star Wars, so it was nice.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah, can you hear that? By the way,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: very very little is it's not gonna be that big
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: of a deal.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to make sure. I wanted to make
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: sure it wasn't bad.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's not blaring in my ears at all.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: So we'll be fine. Okay, But are there any like
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: big points that you want to bring up from the story.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: So what did you think about Canaan struggling with his
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: identity as a Jedi in this case and the fact
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: that he's kept his lightsaber this whole time.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, my big thing is we don't get the
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: lightsaber into like the last three chapters of the book,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: like it is not a part of this story whatsoever,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: and it's like forty something chapters. I thought that this
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: was a very interesting point. He from time to time,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: he'll remember some things that his old master taught him, Right,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: He'll he'll uh what was her name, uh a Diepa
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: b Lava would kind of come up in his brain
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: of like, oh, you shouldn't do this, or you should
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: do this, or you know, just some master equips would
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: come into his mind sometimes throughout the book. But his
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: struggle here was not really a struggle because like I said,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Canaan at his core is still an individual that has
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: the quote unquote morality of that of what a Jedi
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: should be. Of course, we are learning a lot different thing,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: but the Canaan that we know and love, he has
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: always been that person to the core. Yeah, he might
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: have that like rough cowboy like, oh, I'm gonna beat
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: your ass, because he says that to freaking Scully like
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: six times in this book. Yeah, Scull, like Scully hit
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: is so rockhead, like freaking hard headed and doesn't want
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: to do this or doesn't want to do that, and
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, Canaan is the six foot whatever. And
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: I always see like while I was reading, I always
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: felt like Skelly was like this very short, like probably
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: somebody that Canaan could probably pick up by the best
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: and like hang him like with his feet dangling. Is
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: the type of character that I think Skelly is. Uh So,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: like I could visually see him getting like kind of
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: rough with him, and I'm like, yeah, this is this
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: is his emotions. This is the character that Canaan has
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  Speaker 1: allowed him to be because there isn't a Jedi temple
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  Speaker 1: an academy, uh and and he doesn't have a master
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  Speaker 1: to kind of scold him. He is his own individual person.
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  Speaker 1: We've in this book, we learned that, you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: had some lovers before that he's you know, he's been
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  Speaker 1: the drunkard. He's gone through life without you know, being
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  Speaker 1: a part of this cult religion that he was a
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  Speaker 1: part of. And is it for the best of them?
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: You know? We see that now in rebels like yeah,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: like him growing a heart and having feelings and all
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: of this is the better is better for him? But
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  Speaker 1: I dug this because again this will also like the
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: idea of like I gotta, you know, stay away from
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  Speaker 1: the empire and if anybody gets too close, then like, hey,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: I'm out, because that was the hole. Like the beginning
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: of the story is like, hey, I got into deep
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: I accidentally used the force. I think nobody saw me,
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  Speaker 1: but I'll go ahead and leave just in case, and
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  Speaker 1: I won't show up here anymore. And then he stumbles
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  Speaker 1: onto everything else. So like I dig that he still
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: wants to be careful. He still was like, hey, my
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: life is on the line. Like we can only imagine
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: what his life was like for the first two years
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: of running and hiding, right, So like seeing him now
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: doing the exact same thing. Excuse me, I still dig
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  Speaker 1: that about it. You see the growth in his character
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: from not wanting to be in this limelight or in
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: the spotlight to openly going to Hara and being like, Hey,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: are we going to be this team? Are we going
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: to go out and you know, save the galaxy or whatever?
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: Because that was a line in this book as well.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: He was like, Hey, I'm not this kind of person.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go you know, put my neck out
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: for these people. And then Hara turned around and said,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: but you just did. Yep, So I dug the growth
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: of Canaan in this book.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good to see him kind of grow up,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: like you said, and just build the confidence to be like, Okay,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: here's got something more going on here. M I need
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: to be in but I also want to build this
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: relationship with her. So yeah, really really enjoy this book.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if there is a whole lot
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: else to jump on. Of course, when we talk about
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: these reviews, we want to highlight some of the key
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: points that we enjoyed in the book, but overall, we
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: want you guys to go out there read these books
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: enjoy them yourselves. So even though this book is what
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: almost ten years old now, yeah, I looking back at
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: the public. Yeah, it was published. Release date was twenty
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: fourteen in September, so literally almost ten years old in
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: two months, so or a month and a half. So
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, very very fun. I will probably
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: we ended up looking for this to actually have in
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: my collection because I enjoyed it that much listening to
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: an actual audiobook of it. But yeah, very very fun book.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: And also listening to the forward by Day Coloney was
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: really really fun as well, you know, getting the idea
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: of like, hey, uh, I enjoyed Star Wars when I
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: was a young kid, and now I get to create
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: this stuff and all of that was a really fun
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: thing to listen to as well.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: But yeah, all right, well Clay, where can they find you?
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course you can always find me at Fanboy,
• 1:16:46
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• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: go hang out with us there. We are going to
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: be pushing for a lot more content on social media.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: We are going to be pushing the episodes more and
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: other things like that. Katie and I have gotten together
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: to really map out what the next hopeful year is about.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: We had a little bit of a hiccup for this
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: month because of some others that came out, so we
• 1:17:15
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• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: be pushing a lot more content and so it's it's
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: gonna be a very fun rest of the year, So
• 1:17:27
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• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: out Ranger Alliance as well. Over at the network, Me,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: Joe and Jake are actually going to be on next
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: episode talking about the finale of Powering Your Comics in
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: their eight year run, So it's gonna be a lot
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: of fun talk to the guys about that. But also
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: I have teamed up with some of the guys over
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: at geek Verse and we play this game called Full Snap.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: It's a mobile game, it's a PC game. It's a
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: game that I spend way too much time on, but
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: it's a really it's a lot of fun. It's a
• 1:18:10
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• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: what is now known as an alliance on that game.
• 1:18:18
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• 1:18:21
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• 1:18:27
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• 1:18:31
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• 1:18:34
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• 1:18:35
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• 1:18:38
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• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: Awesome. Well, y'all, you can find me on most social
• 1:18:44
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• 1:19:00
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• 1:19:06
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• 1:19:11
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• 1:19:14
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• 1:19:17
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• 1:19:18
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