Latest / The Living Waters Podcast / Ep. 172 - How Living Waters Made History at King Charles’ Coronation
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- 1:04Emeal Zwayne: So okay, then let's, let's jump into it.
- 1:06Emeal Zwayne: So, Mark, you guys get to London.
- 1:08Emeal Zwayne: I mean, throw in whatever you want as well.
- 1:10Emeal Zwayne: But my main question is what was the atmosphere like?
- 1:13Emeal Zwayne: I mean, was was the place buzzing people?
- 1:16Mark Spence: Okay, well, i need to back up a little bit because I feel like I need to and I don't want to get emotional.
- 1:22Mark Spence: But I have to apologize to Ray, because I remember being in Daniel's office telling Ray that this is not gonna work and this is the most amazing thing that I've ever been a part of.
- 1:41Emeal Zwayne: Welcome to the Ben Stein dad joke challenge, where an Arab tells a dad joke and a Ben Stein voice, and the challenge is that none of us hosts on the Living Waters podcast laughs.
- 1:51Emeal Zwayne: This includes the Arab guy who's telling the dad joke.
- 1:54Emeal Zwayne: I really believe that we can definitely get through this without any of us laughing.
- 2:01Ben Stein (voice) - EZ: Why do fathers take an extra pair of socks when they go golfing In case they get a hole in one?
- 2:09Ray Comfort: Sorry, we're not supposed to laugh.
- 2:13Ray Comfort: Yeah, that was actually good.
- 2:14Ben Stein (voice) - EZ: I like that easy dear man, are you left?
- 2:16Ben Stein (voice) - EZ: Dear math, grow up and solve your own.
- 2:22Ben Stein (voice) - EZ: This isn't going so well.
- 2:29Oscar Navarro: That was hilarious.
- 2:30Ben Stein (voice) - EZ: What did the janitor say when he jumped out of the closet supplies?
- 2:36Ben Stein (voice) - EZ: Why do?
- 2:40Ben Stein (voice) - EZ: why do seagulls fly over the ocean?
- 2:45Ben Stein (voice) - EZ: Because if they flew over the bay, we'd call them bagels.
- 2:50Ben Stein (voice) - EZ: Oh.
- 2:59Emeal Zwayne: Okay, I'm done Because I thought we would make it and I thought I got to get a lot because we probably won't crack.
- 3:07Emeal Zwayne: Oh, oh, what tears my eyes guys, what is it about Ben Stein?
- 3:12Emeal Zwayne: I mean seriously wait, do we?
- 3:17Ray Comfort: Everybody knows who Ben.
- 3:20Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, we did, we did, it was out of.
- 3:24Oscar Navarro: Somewhere expelled that's right Oh.
- 3:28Emeal Zwayne: Like a documentary yeah, but he was famous for advertisements before you were born and always Fairs day.
- 3:34Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I'm more you know in a movie too.
- 3:37Ray Comfort: What is it?
- 3:41Emeal Zwayne: But I do want to listen to him.
- 3:42Emeal Zwayne: As soon as I hear his voice, it's the most boring.
- 3:45Oscar Navarro: do you remember winning Ben Stein's money?
- 3:46Oscar Navarro: It was a TV show, Oh yeah, yeah, seriously.
- 3:49Ray Comfort: So you knew all about who Ben Stein.
- 3:51Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, yeah, of course.
- 3:52Emeal Zwayne: Is that a comedy, or it?
- 3:53Oscar Navarro: was.
- 3:54Oscar Navarro: It was like a trivia game.
- 3:55Oscar Navarro: He was the host and you would win Ben Stein's money if you got the question.
- 4:00Mark Spence: I bet it was more the executive producer's money or the well, yeah, unless he was the executive producer.
- 4:05Emeal Zwayne: No, but man, he had something about this.
- 4:07Emeal Zwayne: The Stein that's.
- 4:11Oscar Navarro: Clear eyes, yeah ah.
- 4:13Emeal Zwayne: But it Yeah yeah, I mean he made basically he.
- 4:19Emeal Zwayne: He became famous and made a living off of being Monotone voice.
- 4:25Ray Comfort: Like us, it's a caricature of anything makes you laugh.
- 4:28Ray Comfort: You know, when you someone's drawn with massive ears that you never noticed They had before and a caricature, it just makes you smile, yeah.
- 4:35Mark Spence: Oscar, he's a lawyer, did you know that?
- 4:37Mark Spence: Is that what he was?
- 4:38Emeal Zwayne: by trade, by trade, yeah yeah, ray, did you send him some stuff or something?
- 4:43Emeal Zwayne: Yeah we saw him at that event.
- 4:44Ray Comfort: You got his contact info, i think he gave me his home address, which is very nice.
- 4:47Emeal Zwayne: Did he respond.
- 4:48Emeal Zwayne: Okay, so what is it I?
- 4:49Ray Comfort: can't remember.
- 4:52Emeal Zwayne: Speaking of a movie, what is it?
- 4:53Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, yeah, boring people and all that other good and funny, cute stuff perfect.
- 5:01Ray Comfort: What perfect, perfect.
- 5:02Ray Comfort: There are dead jokes and there are dad jokes.
- 5:04Ray Comfort: They were dad jokes, they good.
- 5:06Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, i got more, really good ones The sock one was pretty good in my life.
- 5:09Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, oscar, you blew it because you said a really good one before we came on.
- 5:13Ray Comfort: Wait, what was it About us memory improvement?
- 5:18Emeal Zwayne: Okay, we have a comment.
- 5:22Emeal Zwayne: This is from prodigal, son X.
- 5:24Emeal Zwayne: It only gets better.
- 5:28Mark Spence: Hang other people.
- 5:32Oscar Navarro: We haven't gotten there yet, but it will get better He meant to put the word can.
- 5:36Ray Comfort: I cannot get better.
- 5:38Oscar Navarro: Hey, that needs to be your next mug.
- 5:42Ben Stein (voice) - EZ: Oh yeah, that's a good idea.
- 5:45Emeal Zwayne: You know that's how this was birthed.
- 5:46Ray Comfort: I think, yeah, we have no idea what we're doing, all right, Hey, there could be a new closing, because we need one.
- 5:51Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, every single one of you are the best, and I truly enjoy Ray's accent, haha.
- 5:58Emeal Zwayne: Thank you, guys for bringing us such edifying content.
- 6:05Emeal Zwayne: Listening to you guys makes me feel like I'm right there with you.
- 6:08Ray Comfort: God bless you guys so a comment on our YouTube channel where it said I think was an atheist.
- 6:12Ray Comfort: He said Ray's accent is Putrid.
- 6:17Emeal Zwayne: Putein, yes, that's a good way to put it.
- 6:19Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, thank you, prodigal.
- 6:21Emeal Zwayne: Son X, you have returned.
- 6:24Emeal Zwayne: I Don't know where you went, but he's back.
- 6:28Emeal Zwayne: That's very encouraging.
- 6:29Emeal Zwayne: Oscar, we were talking about prodigal sons earlier.
- 6:34Oscar Navarro: Because we talked about my departure.
- 6:36Emeal Zwayne: Oh, oh, that's right.
- 6:37Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, friends, you don't know that.
- 6:38Emeal Zwayne: But Oscar, yeah, he was a traitor.
- 6:43Ray Comfort: That's not.
- 6:44Ray Comfort: Here's a turncoat.
- 6:48Oscar Navarro: You don't know, i had took a job and left the ministry, and it was only about 10 months, wasn't quite a year I was no longer at the ministry and then I repented.
- 6:56Oscar Navarro: I saw my wicked ways And I came back and since their fourth there on, they call me the prodigal son.
- 7:03Ray Comfort: Yeah, or Benedict Arnold, arnold, those people that you work for think they're the pigsty or not?
- 7:10Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, he has returned friends.
- 7:12Emeal Zwayne: All right, this podcast is brought to you know his podcast.
- 7:16Emeal Zwayne: By defender of the faith.
- 7:22Emeal Zwayne: Ten weird facts about the coronation and this is fitting because we're gonna be talking about that, ray 500 thousand in print half a million.
- 7:34Ray Comfort: Yes, no, no, no no 500,000.
- 7:35Emeal Zwayne: Yeah.
- 7:36Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, yes, you're right, what's not seriously, what sounds better?
- 7:38Emeal Zwayne: because I always, when I'm about to write something, i'm always wondering should I say 250 million, or should I say quarter of a billion?
- 7:45Emeal Zwayne: which sounds more impressive?
- 7:46Emeal Zwayne: I don't know It's weird, i was always stuck with that.
- 7:49Ray Comfort: It depends on you, on your perception of a million.
- 7:52Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, why are we trying to impress people anyway?
- 7:54Emeal Zwayne: defender of the faith.
- 7:55Emeal Zwayne: 500 thousand Ray, but be honest though, that's not really what you would have wanted to print.
- 8:02Ray Comfort: No, no, i'm gonna be honest, because I'm normally a liar.
- 8:05Ray Comfort: Very true, i wanted to go for a million.
- 8:09Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, hmm, so you compromised.
- 8:11Ray Comfort: I can't buy a nice guy.
- 8:14Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, friends, this is a great book, lots of good insights, and you'll hear more about all that kind of good stuff here and a little bit.
- 8:22Mark Spence: I thought we did not send those to England.
- 8:23Mark Spence: Did we send any of us?
- 8:24Ray Comfort: No, we didn't we were going to, but the logistics was insane.
- 8:27Mark Spence: But people were handing those out.
- 8:29Emeal Zwayne: Where did they get that?
- 8:29Emeal Zwayne: Wait what?
- 8:30Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, Where are they now?
- 8:32Ray Comfort: Yeah, oh, i know where they got them, because the 500,000 went out to people in the US.
- 8:35Mark Spence: They must have filled suitcases for them and took them with them.
- 8:38Mark Spence: I have some good video of them hanging out Really.
- 8:40Oscar Navarro: Oh, that's great.
- 8:40Oscar Navarro: I saw some.
- 8:41Oscar Navarro: I saw some of those books over there.
- 8:43Ray Comfort: Yeah, yeah, seriously.
- 8:44Ray Comfort: We tried to get a warehouse to put them in and we thought we've got this like I don't know how many pallets it was like 40 pallets a box And how did we put them?
- 8:52Ray Comfort: How do we store them, you know?
- 8:54Oscar Navarro: yeah, it was just a nightmare.
- 8:55Oscar Navarro: So to be clear, because not many people who listening may know we Clarifier we recently had a huge outreach for the coronation, which was in London, and because of that we Coronations that the coordination of King Chalet.
- 9:08Oscar Navarro: So Ray wrote a book called Defender of the Faith.
- 9:11Oscar Navarro: 10 weird facts about the coronation.
- 9:15Oscar Navarro: Thanks to you, i know Oscar we printed 500,000 of them and they were made freely available, right And with free shipping.
- 9:22Oscar Navarro: With free shipping, all 500,000 are out in the world somewhere and now, yes, all in the United States For for Christians to hand out to their non-believing friends.
- 9:31Oscar Navarro: I think it's a great book.
- 9:32Ray Comfort: I wouldn't suggest they hand them out.
- 9:33Ray Comfort: I would suggest they throw them out, like right?
- 9:37Emeal Zwayne: No, we like, we just did we did.
- 9:38Ray Comfort: We went around the local Neighborhood and toss them up.
- 9:41Ray Comfort: Drivers put a rubber band around them and an easy just had a ball, Oh that was fun, Although I had some pretty bad throws Yeah but you were stopping and people on the side of the running out and give them to them.
- 9:52Emeal Zwayne: It was just some people can get some wet books on their lawn, but I tried, arabs don't.
- 9:57Emeal Zwayne: They don't do baseball throws.
- 9:58Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, yeah, so oh, thanks for qualifying Oscar.
- 10:02Oscar Navarro: Yeah, and then there was a track And then yeah, yeah, well, we're gonna talk about that.
- 10:06Emeal Zwayne: We're gonna talk about that.
- 10:08Emeal Zwayne: Defender of the Faith.
- 10:09Emeal Zwayne: 10 weird facts.
- 10:11Emeal Zwayne: There are a lot of weird facts, right?
- 10:12Emeal Zwayne: Yes, really weird facts.
- 10:13Ray Comfort: Can you tell us one or two?
- 10:14Ray Comfort: The sub title was given to me by Oscar I didn't have that And it's more appealing.
- 10:20Ray Comfort: And they were weird things.
- 10:22Ray Comfort: The orb I mean Wendy, i'd never heard of an orb until I had seen one just floating around the neighborhood.
- 10:29Ray Comfort: There's an orb crap.
- 10:32Ray Comfort: There was a gold ball that was encrusted with hundreds of diamonds and pearls and sapphires that Charles holds there.
- 10:38Ray Comfort: I would love to sell it and give the money to the poor and use the rest of the gospel tracks.
- 10:42Ray Comfort: I wonder what it's worth that orb.
- 10:45Ray Comfort: It's a lot.
- 10:47Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, you know that's where we've talked about.
- 10:49Emeal Zwayne: Oh, we talked about it on the live stream, but the beef eaters Oh, i found out why they were called beef eaters.
- 10:57Ray Comfort: There's no reason.
- 10:57Ray Comfort: Are you just talking about people like you know?
- 10:59Ray Comfort: No, they were Henry VIII's guards.
- 11:01Ray Comfort: That's why they look really old fashioned, and they used to eat beef Love it.
- 11:05Ray Comfort: So he called them beef eaters, really.
- 11:06Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, that's where I know I saw a beef eater say that he doesn't know why they're called beef eaters.
- 11:10Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, that's just ignorant.
- 11:12Ray Comfort: We know everything Got a snipe.
- 11:13Ray Comfort: Yeah, exactly what I was thinking.
- 11:15Ray Comfort: That's nice, exactly what I was thinking.
- 11:17Emeal Zwayne: Those listeners that have been with us know exactly what that means.
- 11:20Emeal Zwayne: All right, yeah.
- 11:21Emeal Zwayne: So yeah, they guard those things in the tower.
- 11:24Ben Stein (voice) - EZ: I think of London, i got the beef, You go there they got piles of beef Leave my burger alone.
- 11:32Emeal Zwayne: Thank you, touch it.
- 11:32Emeal Zwayne: Beef eaters Yeah, they would have done well in those commercials back in the day.
- 11:36Emeal Zwayne: Remember those commercials?
- 11:36Emeal Zwayne: Where's the beef?
- 11:37Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, where's the beef Mark?
- 11:39Emeal Zwayne: do you remember those?
- 11:39Emeal Zwayne: I'll tell you what.
- 11:40Ray Comfort: They weren't actually called beef eaters.
- 11:41Ray Comfort: They were beef eaters because they had feet they walked around on.
- 11:46Ray Comfort: They just wanted to be feeders.
- 11:50Emeal Zwayne: Oh man, but Mark, remember a little grandma Where's the beef?
- 11:53Mark Spence: Yes, Oh yeah, of course.
- 11:55Emeal Zwayne: And then that was what you would call a viral campaign.
- 11:58Ray Comfort: It was iconic.
- 11:58Ray Comfort: Yeah, wendy's.
- 12:00Ray Comfort: What was the kind of Wendy's?
- 12:01Ray Comfort: Yeah?
- 12:02Emeal Zwayne: Members, you'd be driving around Where's the beef?
- 12:03Emeal Zwayne: And then they'd show this giant bun and it had like a tiny little piece of meat in the middle.
- 12:08Emeal Zwayne: Where's the beef?
- 12:08Emeal Zwayne: They're for glasses.
- 12:09Emeal Zwayne: You know, denny's is brilliant.
- 12:10Emeal Zwayne: They do the square patty.
- 12:13Emeal Zwayne: Why is that?
- 12:13Emeal Zwayne: I think so you eat Wait that's Wendy's, not Denny's.
- 12:17Ben Stein (voice) - EZ: I say Denny's, yeah, wendy's.
- 12:20Emeal Zwayne: So you get a bite from any side.
- 12:22Ray Comfort: You know, i wanted to produce a circle, i wanted to produce a square egg.
- 12:25Ray Comfort: A, what A square egg, so it doesn't roll around.
- 12:28Ray Comfort: Because when the eggs laid, the shell is apparently very soft.
- 12:31Ray Comfort: So if you could somehow strap a square box to a chicken so it laid it would lay it square.
- 12:38Ray Comfort: That would be great because it would sit it up on the table when you want to get it.
- 12:42Emeal Zwayne: You really did contemplate, though, how like a way to do that.
- 12:45Oscar Navarro: Of course, of course Now, the chicken wouldn't stay still.
- 12:48Ray Comfort: Wait weren't you looking at?
- 12:49Emeal Zwayne: when don't we see something about square?
- 12:51Ray Comfort: watermelon two years ago.
- 12:52Ray Comfort: They do have square watermelon.
- 12:53Ray Comfort: They contain them in a square thing, so watermelon grows in square.
- 12:57Emeal Zwayne: So it grows in square.
- 12:58Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, so it sit up instead of rolling around Yeah.
- 13:01Emeal Zwayne: All right friends, also, don't forget to check out the Living Waters podcast Mug.
- 13:06Emeal Zwayne: Notice, it's only in second place today I've kicked it down a little bit And the evidence study Bible at livingwaterscom.
- 13:13Emeal Zwayne: All right guys, no more delays, shenanigans.
- 13:16Emeal Zwayne: No more shenanigans and delays The London Outreach.
- 13:20Emeal Zwayne: Okay, you guys were there and I'm the one buzzing with excitement right now because, honestly, i haven't even hardly talked to you guys.
- 13:28Emeal Zwayne: I know I haven't seen you since getting back.
- 13:29Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, we just got back.
- 13:30Emeal Zwayne: This obviously is posted a little while after the coronation, but all I've heard from you guys is this was unbelievably amazing.
- 13:40Emeal Zwayne: I mean, mark, even this morning we were texting and you're just like yeah, so first of all before you get there.
- 13:50Emeal Zwayne: Let's start with how this was even conceived.
- 13:52Emeal Zwayne: So, Ray, do you even remember how this all came about?
- 13:56Ray Comfort: Yeah, absolutely.
- 13:56Ray Comfort: It started back in 1982 when I saw I think it was 82, diana and Charles get married worldwide on television.
- 14:03Ray Comfort: I sat and watched them And I watched the Archbishop of Canterbury say marriage is a type of Christ and the church And I thought, now preach it.
- 14:14Ben Stein (voice) - EZ: Now you can preach the gospel.
- 14:16Ray Comfort: You have a license to actually say Christ died for our sins.
- 14:18Ray Comfort: We're going to have everlasting life as a free gift of God, and that's what God's love was expressed in the cross, et cetera.
- 14:24Ray Comfort: I was going to say blah, blah.
- 14:26Ray Comfort: And I was so frustrated that he had a worldwide audience of literally hundreds of millions.
- 14:31Ray Comfort: He had a license to preach the gospel.
- 14:33Ray Comfort: He could have done it in two or three minutes, but he didn't.
- 14:36Ray Comfort: And so when this came up, i thought Charles is going to be crowned.
- 14:40Ray Comfort: And I studied what happened with Queen Elizabeth in 1953 and saw that she just did so many things which is so biblically based, symbolic of the Bible, laying a hand on the Bible, turning to uphold the biblical truths of salvation by grace, through faith, carrying the scepter, like David carried and like Solomon carried the orb, which is a picture of Christ having ruled over the whole earth.
- 14:58Ray Comfort: So many other things.
- 15:00Ray Comfort: The sword is a sort of mercy, speaking of the cross, the sort of justice, the sharp sword speaking of the judgment of God, and I thought wouldn't it be great to do a gospel track with Charles's picture on the front or the gospel on the back and give them away to the millions they're going to pack.
- 15:13Ray Comfort: London Made a video for you guys, sent it to you and straight after I sent it I received an email from a gentleman who said he just said what are you working on?
- 15:21Ray Comfort: And I sent him the video and he sent the ministry $200,000.
- 15:24Ray Comfort: Sent someone else the video, they sent $50,000, somebody else and they sent $100,000.
- 15:31Ray Comfort: So I thought I'd better send the video to as many people as I can.
- 15:34Ray Comfort: And then from there things just exploded, in the sense that we thought we were going to print 3 million tracks, which is a breathtaking amount.
- 15:42Ray Comfort: that ended up being 16 million.
- 15:43Ray Comfort: We thought we had something like 2,000 workers that were going to help us give out tracks in England and throughout the US ended up being 21,000.
- 15:50Ray Comfort: We sent our team from you guys and the camera crew to London to film it all, to give out tracks, to have a seminar, and it just went wonderful.
- 15:59Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, yeah.
- 16:00Emeal Zwayne: So that's 21,000 workers all across the globe in different countries that we're getting, because we had Australia, canada, australia I said Australia, New.
- 16:09Ben Stein (voice) - EZ: Zealand, both Australians, both.
- 16:11Emeal Zwayne: Northern and southern Australia.
- 16:12Emeal Zwayne: All over, right, yes, all over, probably the Commonwealth countries, 21,000 people.
- 16:18Oscar Navarro: Yeah, so the numbers we brought in about $530,000 in donations, the total amount.
- 16:23Ray Comfort: We didn't even have to go to our regular donors.
- 16:26Oscar Navarro: Yeah.
- 16:26Oscar Navarro: It was such a good amount Which helped cover the cost of 16 million tracks being printed, 500,000 books being printed hardcover books being printed, plus being able to host a conference for a couple hundred people in London right before the outreach.
- 16:42Oscar Navarro: And Did you say a couple hundred thousand?
- 16:44Oscar Navarro: Couple hundred thousand, what?
- 16:44Oscar Navarro: I thought you said a couple hundred people, oh, a couple hundred people Couple hundred people in London sort of an equipping I think there were about 400 almost there.
- 16:52Ray Comfort: I was going to correct them, but I didn't like them too publicly.
- 16:56Oscar Navarro: A couple hundred, a few hundred.
- 16:57Ray Comfort: Yeah, a few hundred, a few hundred.
- 16:58Ray Comfort: There were hundreds, there were millions.
- 17:01Oscar Navarro: And there were less than a billion people at that conference.
- 17:03Ray Comfort: That's often here we've got.
- 17:05Ray Comfort: This TV station has a potential audience of six billion people.
- 17:08Oscar Navarro: There's two listeners, there was potential.
- 17:10Ray Comfort: There's only three billion, six billion eyes, so we had that wonderful conference, or whatever you call it reception.
- 17:17Ray Comfort: Yeah, it was just a time of exhortation and encouragement which everybody loved.
- 17:22Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, i mean, let me just put this into perspective.
- 17:24Emeal Zwayne: Think of a local church with an evangelism team And, seriously, if five people come out, the leaders are like whoa, this is a revival.
- 17:34Emeal Zwayne: About 400 people came together, flying in from all over the world, 21,000 around the world, 400 together in London, coming in from all around the world to London.
- 17:45Oscar Navarro: And honestly, all around the world.
- 17:46Oscar Navarro: I mean, i met people from Australia, Finland, africa.
- 17:50Oscar Navarro: What was the country that that young lady was from?
- 17:53Oscar Navarro: New Zealand, it was just off of Madagascar somewhere.
- 17:55Oscar Navarro: Some small little island off the coast of Madagascar Loves listening to the podcast.
- 18:00Oscar Navarro: So sorry, i can't remember the name of the country.
- 18:02Oscar Navarro: All over the world, yeah.
- 18:05Emeal Zwayne: And that's in London, but just to have a team that size.
- 18:08Emeal Zwayne: And then you've got 21,000 all over the world.
- 18:11Emeal Zwayne: Given amount I mean this is set.
- 18:13Emeal Zwayne: This is like we're on fire already, but we're like a blazing inferno right now.
- 18:17Ray Comfort: We don't know how many came from Great Britain to London.
- 18:20Ray Comfort: We lost count.
- 18:21Ray Comfort: It was originally 1800 and the figures got messed up on our website So I couldn't find it.
- 18:26Ray Comfort: So there were literally thousands came from around the country, from churches, to give out those tracks.
- 18:31Oscar Navarro: Because we send out the tracks and the thousands And I'm telling you, on Coronation Day, every single street I turned and walked down, there were people handing out gospel tracks.
- 18:42Mark Spence: I love it, You know I cannot tell you how many people I bumped into that were all by themselves, yeah, and they loved the podcast and they had no idea about the reception.
- 18:56Ray Comfort: Yeah.
- 18:56Mark Spence: Which surprises me.
- 18:57Mark Spence: I think they would have come to that.
- 19:00Emeal Zwayne: I think, wait, you mean there were more there that didn't come.
- 19:03Oscar Navarro: There were so many people, i would say, about half the people I ran into on the streets were not at the reception.
- 19:08Oscar Navarro: What?
- 19:08Ray Comfort: Yeah, easy.
- 19:08Ray Comfort: Miguel said we had not too many people give our SVPs to the reception, so they kept the number at about 400.
- 19:15Ray Comfort: And so a lot of people couldn't get in A lot of people couldn't come because it was filled up.
- 19:20Ray Comfort: I didn't realize that.
- 19:20Ray Comfort: A lot more people than that.
- 19:23Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, so okay, then let's.
- 19:25Emeal Zwayne: Let's jump into it.
- 19:26Emeal Zwayne: So, mark, you guys get to London.
- 19:28Emeal Zwayne: I mean, throw in whatever you want as well.
- 19:30Emeal Zwayne: But my main question is what was the atmosphere like?
- 19:32Emeal Zwayne: I mean was was the place buzzing people?
- 19:35Mark Spence: Okay, well, i need to back up a little bit because I feel like I need to and I don't want to get emotional, but I have to apologize to Ray, because I remember being in Daniel's office telling Ray that this is not gonna work and this is the most amazing thing that I've ever been a part of, and I'm sorry, ray, for doing that.
- 20:00Ray Comfort: And Mark, when you sent that text to me, i actually wept because I remembered that You're saying this is the greatest experience in my life.
- 20:11Ray Comfort: I'll never forget it, to the moment I got to be with the Lord.
- 20:13Ray Comfort: I wept because it was so sweet to me after you saying this just isn't gonna work, hmm.
- 20:20Mark Spence: Yeah, well, boy, which we didn't have cameras going.
- 20:24Mark Spence: It was a surreal moment because I met people from all sorts of backgrounds and Christian denominations that came together to link arms to share the gospel with people, and People that have never done this before, well, that have never stepped out of the boat, and It was crazy, it was absolutely crazy.
- 20:56Mark Spence: People, the, the energy and the excitement that people had to share their, to share their faith.
- 21:03Mark Spence: For the first time I felt like I was a part of history.
- 21:06Mark Spence: I felt like God allowed me to go into the front lines and and experience and see something That was part of the early church, as they went into Their Jerusalem and Judea and Samaria and the uttermost parts of the earth and it people I talked to that They did not care that nobody came with them, that nobody went with them.
- 21:28Mark Spence: People that spent all the money they had to get a plane ticket and Sleep in wherever they could sleep, and that we had a host up there for the Romanian church that so kindly opened up their church.
- 21:42Mark Spence: That's Pastor George.
- 21:43Mark Spence: Is that Pastor George?
- 21:44Mark Spence: and Julia who organized the event?
- 21:47Mark Spence: I mean, i don't even know what to say that these people?
- 21:50Mark Spence: I was so encouraged, yeah, as I was out handing out the different tracks and seeing the books and people engaged in conversations And I saw somebody open air preach for the first time and they've never opened air preached before.
- 22:03Mark Spence: Yeah, it wasn't the best a message, you know, it was really kind of sloppy, but it so it provoked me, you know, within me, and I and I went up to a guy and I said, hey guys, listen to this episode.
- 22:16Mark Spence: Right now.
- 22:16Mark Spence: I'm like hey.
- 22:18Mark Spence: Can and can.
- 22:19Mark Spence: May I may I borrow your microphone?
- 22:21Mark Spence: He looked at me and he said he was wow that this is such an honor.
- 22:25Mark Spence: You know I love your podcast and and everything else.
- 22:28Mark Spence: So I then began to preach for an hour and a half and then finally a camera crew came by, like within the last 20 minutes, you know or so, and they got it on camera the last 20 minutes or so, but yeah, i rounded.
- 22:40Oscar Navarro: I rounded the corner again, walking around just people everywhere running in the to people handing out gospel tracks.
- 22:46Oscar Navarro: I'll get into some of the people that I got to meet, but I round just to pause.
- 22:50Oscar Navarro: But then I want you to pick up.
- 22:51Oscar Navarro: I round this corner and I hear somebody on a microphone and I'm like, well, i know that voice and I go over there and there's Mark, he's got this Persian guy, egyptian guy, Ferris he was Egyptian.
- 23:06Oscar Navarro: And then this tall English blok English guy He was his name.
- 23:09Mark Spence: Is Danny with easier hecklers, or?
- 23:11Oscar Navarro: they're my hecklers.
- 23:12Mark Spence: I invited them up and we shared a microphone, but I held on to the microphone.
- 23:15Mark Spence: Oh, and by the time I was done, they both were very antagonistic.
- 23:21Ray Comfort: They were really have it on, especially, especially when you say we have it on camera, that's for a television program.
- 23:26Emeal Zwayne: Yes, so mark real, real quick.
- 23:27Emeal Zwayne: Was this a local Group that was open air preaching, or were they a part of?
- 23:32Mark Spence: our out there.
- 23:32Mark Spence: It was a single guy that came by himself with a microphone and a speaker.
- 23:37Emeal Zwayne: Speaker, and he came from the US, or no?
- 23:39Emeal Zwayne: No, he was an Englishman.
- 23:42Oscar Navarro: I didn't hear him preach, i took over his microphone?
- 23:44Ray Comfort: I'm not sure, but somebody else had borrowed his microphone that preached for the first time Got it And then I grabbed ahold of it.
- 23:51Mark Spence: But Danny who came on up, he was so antagonistic, he was so angry, he was an atheist And I allowed him to speak into my microphone as I held it And then he was just going off and off and off.
- 23:59Mark Spence: I've never seen a man roll his eyes so fiercely.
- 24:03Oscar Navarro: Wow, danny would roll his eyes By the time we were done, he said.
- 24:06Oscar Navarro: I just want to say thank you.
- 24:09Mark Spence: I just want to say thank you Wow.
- 24:12Mark Spence: Because, I've never come across a Christian like you before.
- 24:15Mark Spence: Usually we come across people that are Christians, that are yelling at us but they're not ready and willing to engage in dialogue.
- 24:22Mark Spence: I've never encountered something like this before And I want to say what you're doing out here is a really good thing.
- 24:28Emeal Zwayne: Did they get that on camera?
- 24:29Emeal Zwayne: They're all on camera.
- 24:31Oscar Navarro: Well, and a moment that you didn't see.
- 24:33Oscar Navarro: If you remember, he kind of asked a question to you of like what kind of a God would blah, blah, blah, blah, blah?
- 24:40Oscar Navarro: And your response to him was by what standard are you judging God on?
- 24:46Oscar Navarro: And he took a moment and he sit.
- 24:49Oscar Navarro: His response back was like you know what?
- 24:51Oscar Navarro: I need a minute.
- 24:52Oscar Navarro: I need a minute to think about this, and so he pulls back and then the other guy steps forward and starts asking you questions And I watched him.
- 24:58Oscar Navarro: He was like on his phone.
- 25:00Oscar Navarro: I don't know what he was doing, but it looked like he was looking something up.
- 25:03Ray Comfort: Yeah, Richard, help me.
- 25:04Ray Comfort: No, what would Dawkins say?
- 25:07Oscar Navarro: We're looking some stuff up.
- 25:08Oscar Navarro: and then at one point he seemed to and again I don't know what he was doing on his phone, but it looked like he was curious about something.
- 25:13Oscar Navarro: And at some point he puts his phone away and he just kind of crosses arms and he sat there with his chin in his hand and just thinking and contemplating And then was like, looked at you and was like, okay, i'm going to go.
- 25:24Oscar Navarro: And then he said whatever you said to you and he left.
- 25:26Mark Spence: I'm going to gracefully back out of this conversation.
- 25:28Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, how cool would it be if one day, this guy gets saved and his testimony is a guy hit me with this question lovingly, gently, intelligently, and I just realized what am I doing?
- 25:40Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, what standard am I using?
- 25:42Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, i'm an atheist, i don't believe in any absolute standard, and yet I'm applying one to God.
- 25:47Emeal Zwayne: Where do I get?
- 25:49Oscar Navarro: on.
- 25:49Oscar Navarro: I remember his thing.
- 25:50Oscar Navarro: It was because you brought up Adam in the fall and he said what kind of a God would tempt a son and then accuse him afterwards of falling?
- 25:59Oscar Navarro: That was it.
- 25:59Oscar Navarro: And then your response was by what standard are you basing that?
- 26:02Oscar Navarro: by what standard are you judging God on?
- 26:04Mark Spence: Yeah, and he kept saying you know, there are so many kids that are suffering, so many kids that are suffering, they're suffering, they're suffering.
- 26:10Mark Spence: Where's God?
- 26:10Mark Spence: God was at the same place when his son was suffered, when his son died at the hands of cruel people.
- 26:17Mark Spence: But since you have such a heart for the children, how do you feel about abortion?
- 26:20Mark Spence: Wow.
- 26:21Mark Spence: And he said well, i think it's up to the woman to choose.
- 26:24Mark Spence: And I said so.
- 26:24Mark Spence: Let me get this straight.
- 26:25Mark Spence: Everybody can choose, but God by what standard?
- 26:29Mark Spence: So it was very, and it's very important for those of you that are listening if you are inclined to open your preach or to engage in some sort of an apologetical sword fight, to always get back to the gospel.
- 26:40Ben Stein (voice) - EZ: Yeah, they know it.
- 26:41Mark Spence: Because, before you know it, you're 30 minutes in you have a whole new crowd and nobody's heard the gospel.
- 26:45Mark Spence: All they see is you arguing, And if you're not arguing towards the cross, well then you're just arguing.
- 26:50Mark Spence: So I made it my aim to always pull away from our discussion, preach the law in the gospel and get back to the questions.
- 26:55Ray Comfort: That was learned from Santa Monica.
- 26:57Ray Comfort: We used to tap each other's ankle.
- 26:59Ben Stein (voice) - EZ: Yeah.
- 27:00Ray Comfort: It's a propensity to get caught into apologetical arguments, and if we saw a brother on the box doing that, we'd go past and just tap his ankle and say oh remember, we're here to preach the cross.
- 27:10Emeal Zwayne: Well, it's so key And one of the benefits of open air is the fact that multiple people are listening in And you've got people that are coming in and out, so you might have someone new who just walked in.
- 27:21Emeal Zwayne: So you always want to try to get back to the gospel.
- 27:23Emeal Zwayne: So, okay, mark, so you had that experience.
- 27:27Emeal Zwayne: I mean, i've known you for a very long time and we've served the Lord together for about 25 years, like in ministry, and I don't think I've ever seen you like this moved by something.
- 27:38Emeal Zwayne: God did something in you man.
- 27:40Mark Spence: Yeah, no, it was really special.
- 27:42Mark Spence: I wish that you guys could have been there to see it somehow be lifted up, experienced and come on back.
- 27:49Mark Spence: The travel itself can be very difficult.
- 27:51Mark Spence: It can be very hard, but the ministry was absolutely amazing.
- 27:56Mark Spence: Everywhere I turned around there were people.
- 27:58Mark Spence: It seemed like there was a road to Emmaus experience with everybody.
- 28:03Mark Spence: Everybody had a story And when given the opportunity, they wanted to share it, but they weren't interested in the fellowship as much as they were interested in sharing the gospel with other people.
- 28:12Mark Spence: People that were excited to meet us and to talk to us, but when given the opportunity to turn around and to hand out tracts, they wanted to be all a part of that.
- 28:22Emeal Zwayne: And what a fitting occasion.
- 28:24Emeal Zwayne: I mean right, ray?
- 28:25Emeal Zwayne: I mean you've talked about it and you've said basically the whole world was going to church and everyone's gathering to really wait outside of an event where something's happening, where the gospel is being talked about.
- 28:35Emeal Zwayne: I mean they quoted out of Colossians about who Christ is and his preeminence, and it was just, it was amazing.
- 28:46Mark Spence: I'm on my way back, coming back, i sat next to a lady who was invited to the coronation and she sat in Westminster Abbey.
- 28:54Mark Spence: She was in her early 80s, she's from England and she was coming out to the United States for something.
- 29:00Mark Spence: But she gave me her phone number to come visit her because I'm going back to England in two weeks for a couple of weeks.
- 29:06Mark Spence: But she gave me, allowed me to hold on to and I took a picture of every page.
- 29:09Mark Spence: It was the program for the coronation and I sent it to you, ray.
- 29:13Mark Spence: That's what those 50 pages are.
- 29:14Mark Spence: Listen to some of these words, if I may.
- 29:16Mark Spence: These words are the words.
- 29:18Mark Spence: Everything is scripted that day for the coronation.
- 29:21Mark Spence: The Archbishop of Thyatira in Great Britain says The Lord, protect you in all your ways and prosper all your work in his name.
- 29:29Mark Spence: The moderator of the free churches group says The Lord, give you hope and happiness that you may inspire all your people in the imitation of his unchanging love.
- 29:38Mark Spence: The General Secretary of England says The Lord, grant that wisdom and knowledge be the stability of your times and the fear of the Lord your treasure.
- 29:47Mark Spence: The Cardinal of Archbishop of Westminster says May God pour upon you the richness of his grace, bless you and keep you in his holy fear and prepare you for a happy eternity and receive you at the last, until a mortal glory, wow.
- 30:02Mark Spence: The Archbishop of Canterbury says And the blessing of God Almighty.
- 30:05Mark Spence: The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit be with you and remain with you always, amen.
- 30:09Mark Spence: And then it just goes on and on.
- 30:11Mark Spence: And this one part The Lord, grant the King a long life that his years may endure throughout all generations.
- 30:17Mark Spence: Let him dwell before thee forever.
- 30:19Mark Spence: Oh prepare thy loving mercy and faithfulness that they may preserve him.
- 30:23Mark Spence: So shall we always sing and praise thy name, amen.
- 30:26Mark Spence: Point the coronation, the entire coronation is pointed back upon the word of God, the person of Jesus Christ.
- 30:33Mark Spence: And I'm thinking to myself, as I was reading through this, like nowhere else in the world, are you going to see this and to hear these words?
- 30:42Mark Spence: Right?
- 30:43Mark Spence: And I, when I got grabbed ahold of the program and I was looking through all of the words written out, i was thinking what a treasure this item is.
- 30:51Mark Spence: And this woman says I can't stop reading through all the words that were spoken.
- 30:56Mark Spence: Wow, how did she get in there, mark?
- 30:59Mark Spence: I mean, she was invited.
- 31:00Mark Spence: She was invited in to, is she just?
- 31:02Emeal Zwayne: a commoner.
- 31:03Emeal Zwayne: I don't know, she was the Queen of Pompeo.
- 31:05Ben Stein (voice) - EZ: Yeah, Well, and.
- 31:07Emeal Zwayne: Yeah.
- 31:07Emeal Zwayne: Oscar you've been waiting.
- 31:09Emeal Zwayne: I want to hear what you got too.
- 31:12Oscar Navarro: Yeah, i mean I really don't have much to add to what Mark is saying, but my observations and some standout moments is kind of what he said.
- 31:19Oscar Navarro: It was less about us being there and more about seeing how many people answered the call.
- 31:26Oscar Navarro: Because of Ray, your vision not just your vision for London, but your vision for this ministry, your vision for the church to become more evangelistic that started 30, 40, 50, 180 years ago And all that you do and all that God is doing through the podcast, the TV show and the YouTube.
- 31:43Oscar Navarro: I mean I met a sweet family with teenage girls there from Ireland.
- 31:48Oscar Navarro: I met teenagers that backed packed from Finland.
- 31:52Oscar Navarro: By the way, that's the creatures, Yeah they knew you Shout out to the creatures.
- 31:58Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, they're our friends.
- 31:59Emeal Zwayne: That's their last name Creature.
- 32:01Emeal Zwayne: Creature, not creatures.
- 32:03Ray Comfort: Creatures, I was going to say the only one who preached the God of the creatures.
- 32:05Ray Comfort: I met a couple.
- 32:05Ray Comfort: They're the ones that picked us up.
- 32:07Emeal Zwayne: Remember it took us around Ireland.
- 32:09Ray Comfort: That's right.
- 32:10Ray Comfort: And he sent me a video of you and I.
- 32:12Ray Comfort: They've watched a dozen times.
- 32:13Ray Comfort: They can't stop looking at it.
- 32:14Ray Comfort: Oh yeah, I'll produce.
- 32:15Ray Comfort: I'm going to show you later.
- 32:16Ray Comfort: That's right, It's so funny.
- 32:19Oscar Navarro: He was from the US and I can't remember what country she's from, but they're engaged and they rarely get to see each other and they decided that this would be their trip, where they get to spend some time together, which is to go and to preach the gospel and to hand out tracks like that was how they're going to spend this trip together.
- 32:34Oscar Navarro: You know Over and over again.
- 32:36Oscar Navarro: Just met some incredible a guy from Greece who came by himself because he gave us a hard time.
- 32:42Oscar Navarro: He said every time we quote the Greek word on our podcast, he says we butcher it.
- 32:49Oscar Navarro: I apologize, perfectly.
- 32:53Ray Comfort: We should call him every time we want to call him.
- 32:54Ray Comfort: He said it's.
- 32:56Mark Spence: Augustine.
- 33:00Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, he's wrong.
- 33:01Oscar Navarro: It was amazing and, like I said, turning the corner.
- 33:04Oscar Navarro: Everywhere I went on the streets it was just one person after another with the million dollar bill pound tracks, handing them out to people, men and women near retirement age, in their middle age, young kids, high school, college, just every age group you know answered the call to preach the gospel.
- 33:24Oscar Navarro: And think about not only the tracks that were handing out, but think about how much prayer was poured over.
- 33:30Oscar Navarro: This trip was poured over.
- 33:32Oscar Navarro: Those tracks was poured over the people that were that the tracks were being handed to.
- 33:36Oscar Navarro: And to add to sort of what you were saying, mark, in regards to reading what the Church of England had prepared, i got to speak to you know, we're out there looking for interviews for the TV show and there's like this vicar, he's got his white thingamajig on and he's staring at the Abbey.
- 33:54Oscar Navarro: And I walk up to him and I'm like hey, would you want to do an interview?
- 33:57Oscar Navarro: And he said yes.
- 33:58Emeal Zwayne: Wow.
- 33:59Oscar Navarro: And so I got to do an interview with the vicar from the Church of England.
- 34:02Oscar Navarro: It was really interesting.
- 34:04Ray Comfort: It was a great accent.
- 34:05Oscar Navarro: He did have a great accent.
- 34:07Oscar Navarro: yeah, He knew very little about the gospel, though, which is crazy.
- 34:11Emeal Zwayne: This guy you know went to seminary.
- 34:13Oscar Navarro: He is a professional preacher, quote unquote in the Church of England.
- 34:18Oscar Navarro: And I ask him what is the gospel?
- 34:20Oscar Navarro: And he goes oh well, you know, the gospel is God's love for us, it's God's way of healing us, of empowering us, of offering us grace and power in this life and reconciliation with each other.
- 34:35Oscar Navarro: And he waxes on and on And at the end, when he's done, i go.
- 34:39Oscar Navarro: And what about our reconciliation to him?
- 34:41Oscar Navarro: And he's like oh well, yeah, you know, in a way That small thing Yeah.
- 34:46Oscar Navarro: And then I ask him you know about the substitutionary atonement?
- 34:49Oscar Navarro: And right at the end he says something like well, you know that makes me feel uncomfortable.
- 34:55Oscar Navarro: You know, god's wrath being poured out on his son makes me feel like he's a vindictive God And I got to go.
- 35:01Oscar Navarro: He left.
- 35:02Oscar Navarro: And he left the interview, which is really unfortunate, but it's also a great example on how the Church of England has lost a sense of the gospel.
- 35:16Ray Comfort: And how the God of this world is blinded to the minds of those that believe, not to the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God.
- 35:21Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and you know my prayer is for God to do a revival.
- 35:26Emeal Zwayne: You know you think about the fact that Wesley and Whitfield came out of the Church of England.
- 35:30Emeal Zwayne: You know, And man.
- 35:32Emeal Zwayne: May the Lord cause a revival.
- 35:34Emeal Zwayne: We had a good friend say as we were texting, ray and I were texting and they were like man, how wonderful would it be if the book and the tract got into the hands of King Charles and his family and they all came to Christ.
- 35:49Emeal Zwayne: Oh, it could be this morning and say he's reading the tract and I was like where's Ben when you need him, when we need him.
- 35:55Ray Comfort: Can I just say something about the tract?
- 35:57Ray Comfort: I think it's got an incredibly long life, and the reason for that is for the world, this was a tremendously heartwarming experience.
- 36:05Ray Comfort: This whole thing outside of what the Christian experienced was like a light and darkness, in the sense that the world is just so full of bad, bad news And this was good news.
- 36:14Ray Comfort: And it's like and I aged myself by saying this but if someone gave me a million dollar bill with the Beatles on it, it would take me back to the joy I had of the experience of hearing them for the first time.
- 36:27Ray Comfort: And so this tract has got a long, long life, and so Christians should still keep giving them out.
- 36:33Ray Comfort: Oh, i watched the coronation.
- 36:35Ray Comfort: Yeah, thanks for that.
- 36:37Emeal Zwayne: And again, the reason why I think it was such a brilliant idea is because who in the world is going to throw one of those away?
- 36:42Emeal Zwayne: I mean, this is, you know, people love mementos from certain places or, you know, from certain occasions, and it's not just that it's got King Charles picture on it and it's it looks like currency.
- 36:52Emeal Zwayne: It's really well done.
- 36:54Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, i mean, brad and Ashley did an extraordinary job.
- 36:58Emeal Zwayne: It's really quality, even the paper.
- 37:00Ray Comfort: People believe what a bread nicely is.
- 37:03Emeal Zwayne: But I'm not sleep, but I'm not sleep.
- 37:04Emeal Zwayne: Yeah a brat is our wonderful Oh Brett's are wonderful webmaster here and does so many other things.
- 37:13Emeal Zwayne: And then Esli is a brilliant graphic artist.
- 37:18Ray Comfort: I mean she's been doing stuff for Disney for a long time, yeah.
- 37:20Emeal Zwayne: I know that she's really good And she does the best caricatures I think I've ever seen, so, anyhow.
- 37:26Emeal Zwayne: So here's what I want to do.
- 37:27Emeal Zwayne: I want to.
- 37:28Emeal Zwayne: I want to get to the reception mark.
- 37:31Emeal Zwayne: I want you to talk a little bit about that and what happened there, and then I want to wrap up with talking about what we're going to do next, because, if you don't think, this affected us friends wow, now listen, why are we talking about all this?
- 37:43Emeal Zwayne: All of you are thinking, ok, this already happened.
- 37:45Emeal Zwayne: Who knows when you're and look at the date on this, because this may be years later.
- 37:48Emeal Zwayne: You're listening to this.
- 37:49Emeal Zwayne: We're doing this to stir your souls.
- 37:53Emeal Zwayne: If you weren't moved by Mark's reaction, you may not be a human being, because that was that was powerful, and we want you to catch a glimpse of what God can do when you decide to be an instrument in His hand.
- 38:09Emeal Zwayne: And guys, honestly think about it.
- 38:11Emeal Zwayne: What's being asked of us?
- 38:12Emeal Zwayne: Be an instrument?
- 38:13Emeal Zwayne: What's an instrument?
- 38:15Emeal Zwayne: It just sits there, you know, like ready to be picked up and used, and that's what we're talking about being used by the Lord.
- 38:22Emeal Zwayne: This doesn't have to happen during one big single occasion in another country.
- 38:27Emeal Zwayne: They are lost all around you all the time.
- 38:30Emeal Zwayne: There are enough special occasions in the US taking place where you can go, and so do it.
- 38:35Emeal Zwayne: All right, mark reception.
- 38:37Mark Spence: People literally had to take planes, trains and automobiles in order to get to this place that was in the middle of nowhere.
- 38:44Mark Spence: It really was, yeah, our outside of London.
- 38:47Emeal Zwayne: Really it was remote.
- 38:48Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, there's nothing near it.
- 38:52Mark Spence: Why did I think the?
- 38:52Emeal Zwayne: reception was like five minutes from like ground zero.
- 38:55Oscar Navarro: Well, when you look on a map, it's only a millimeter away from the end.
- 38:59Emeal Zwayne: That's what it was.
- 39:01Mark Spence: But seeing the people come, continually come and then fill up this room was so amazing.
- 39:07Ben Stein (voice) - EZ: It was standing room only.
- 39:09Emeal Zwayne: Speaking of Phillip.
- 39:10Emeal Zwayne: Phillip was there, wasn't he?
- 39:11Emeal Zwayne: Ray Ray's brother.
- 39:14Ray Comfort: Oh, my brother, Yeah, phillip, and his wife Shirley.
- 39:16Ray Comfort: He's had me mystified for a long time.
- 39:18Ray Comfort: He was the first ever to give away coronation tracks.
- 39:21Ray Comfort: Wow, he asked for the money when he was in Sydney.
- 39:23Ray Comfort: That's amazing And I didn't even know if he's a Christian, which is just weird.
- 39:26Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, amazing, awesome.
- 39:28Mark Spence: We showed our film What Is It?
- 39:29Mark Spence: and Phillip came up to me The last half of the film at least.
- 39:33Mark Spence: I stood there with Phillip and we watched it, and it was after he had said, oh, this is so well done, he's just excellent, just excellent, just really excellent, and he's so proud of you, ray right, yes, i mean, he wears a name tag that says Phillip Comfort on it.
- 39:47Mark Spence: He's self-made and he wore walking around and he wanted to address everybody and say a word, but we didn't dare give him a mic.
- 39:58Emeal Zwayne: So yeah, so it's in a remote place and people are just yeah.
- 40:02Mark Spence: Yeah, and then we all got up there, went after the next one, we began to talk and teach a little bit, we showed the film and Mark taught, I taught and then.
- 40:11Mark Spence: Miguel, head MC John Harris.
- 40:13Mark Spence: John Harris, yeah, he gave pointers on how to handle gospel tracks, how to engage in conversation, and we could have probably went on for another few hours.
- 40:21Emeal Zwayne: How long did it go?
- 40:22Mark Spence: It was at least three and a half hours.
- 40:24Mark Spence: What, yeah, it was long.
- 40:26Mark Spence: I didn't realize that It could have been a lot longer.
- 40:28Mark Spence: Wow, yeah, people were.
- 40:30Mark Spence: Was it too long?
- 40:30Mark Spence: It was not too long.
- 40:32Mark Spence: No, people wanted more People wanted to become a little bit.
- 40:34Oscar Navarro: That was a highlight.
- 40:35Emeal Zwayne: And so were you guys meeting a lot of people that love living waters.
- 40:38Emeal Zwayne: In the fall of the ministry, Yes, but not only that.
- 40:40Mark Spence: There were a lot of people that were really wanting to become equipped.
- 40:44Mark Spence: Yeah Right.
- 40:45Mark Spence: I had instead in my head thinking that all of these people are already equipped, they're already inspired, that's why they're there and they just want a fellowship.
- 40:52Mark Spence: No, when slides were going, john Harris was showing the different slides on how to handle tracks.
- 40:57Mark Spence: It was like every hand went up to take a picture of the different slides.
- 41:00Mark Spence: Wow, and then coming by and just going how do I get this material?
- 41:03Mark Spence: How do I get this material?
- 41:04Mark Spence: How do I become equipped?
- 41:05Oscar Navarro: Yeah, so I think that's a good thing.
- 41:07Oscar Navarro: On three things we can learn from the early church on evangelism, but I mentioned the beginning.
- 41:12Oscar Navarro: I actually have five, but I only have time for three.
- 41:14Oscar Navarro: I can't tell you how many people afterwards were coming up to me.
- 41:17Oscar Navarro: What were the other two?
- 41:19Ray Comfort: What were they with pin?
- 41:19Oscar Navarro: and paper.
- 41:20Emeal Zwayne: You were at the top of the top of the top of the top.
- 41:21Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, what were the other two?
- 41:21Emeal Zwayne: Very smart.
- 41:23Oscar Navarro: But to your point, yeah, they were so excited about being around living waters members and us And that was really encouraging.
- 41:31Oscar Navarro: But more than that, they were there to be equipped.
- 41:33Oscar Navarro: They were so excited for information download, which was awesome.
- 41:37Oscar Navarro: I love that They're hungry.
- 41:39Mark Spence: There was such a sacrifice for them to be there And therefore I think that that allotted each person to be like a sponge, that they were just holding on to everything that was being said Give me something.
- 41:48Mark Spence: And then, like I said, out on the streets, a lot of individual people, not with other people, not with a spouse, not with a friend, not with their child, they're just by themselves trying to handle tracks, handing them out.
- 41:59Mark Spence: And it wasn't like they were being timid about it either.
- 42:01Mark Spence: It was like no, here, take this, you've got to read this, you've got to read this.
- 42:05Oscar Navarro: Take this So many college students that just went by themselves.
- 42:09Oscar Navarro: Wow, They're like I just came by myself.
- 42:11Oscar Navarro: I'm just here to hand out tracks.
- 42:12Emeal Zwayne: Well, you know, when we got sent the video, i don't know who sent it, if it was Brad or one of our team members.
- 42:18Emeal Zwayne: If someone sent a video of our team being mobbed by people like wanting tracks and even one lady's like give me two, give me two.
- 42:26Emeal Zwayne: People just waiting.
- 42:27Emeal Zwayne: And I just started, i teared up because I thought, lord, all these people have the gospel in their hands.
- 42:34Emeal Zwayne: They're not going to throw this away.
- 42:35Emeal Zwayne: It's going to be sitting in their house for years.
- 42:37Emeal Zwayne: Other people are going to read it.
- 42:38Oscar Navarro: They're children and the grandchildren.
- 42:40Emeal Zwayne: And so it was so, so moving, and so you guys met a few podcast listeners.
- 42:46Mark Spence: Oh, so many people love the podcast.
- 42:47Mark Spence: Really, i can't believe it.
- 42:49Ben Stein (voice) - EZ: Even the dad jokes.
- 42:50Mark Spence: However, there was one guy that came up to me and he said I love everything about the podcast except for when Easy tells us jokes.
- 42:58Ben Stein (voice) - EZ: No, he's an anomaly, because everybody else wasn't here, everybody else loves the dad jokes and loves the camaraderie and jokes.
- 43:04Mark Spence: I am honestly shocked.
- 43:05Oscar Navarro: I'm honestly shocked on how, and so blessed because to me we get on here, we goof off, we have so much fun talking about the Lord.
- 43:13Oscar Navarro: I feel lifted up and encouraged.
- 43:15Oscar Navarro: And then I am so blown away when I get around other people and they are so lifted up and encouraged by the podcast And to see just them understand our inside jokes, tell us whether they're team Easy or team.
- 43:28Ray Comfort: Oscar when it comes to coffee.
- 43:31Oscar Navarro: You know.
- 43:31Oscar Navarro: For them to repeat back to us stories that we've told are like Hey, you know, you said this thing, i can relate, or I was in that moment before.
- 43:38Oscar Navarro: There's just like relational currency that's being built and listener for you, for you, listening man, we, we so appreciate you.
- 43:46Ray Comfort: We love you and we're so thankful for.
- 43:49Oscar Navarro: when we get to meet you face to face, it honestly means a ton.
- 43:51Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, it's crazy.
- 43:52Emeal Zwayne: I was at a church in another state and this lady walks up to me.
- 43:55Emeal Zwayne: Never seen her in my life.
- 43:56Emeal Zwayne: She goes Hey, tea kettle's Wayne.
- 43:57Emeal Zwayne: Oh boy, this thing's getting around.
- 44:00Emeal Zwayne: But yeah, mark, to serve that brother who doesn't like the jokes, i'm going to keep telling them because he needs sanctification, trial and tribulation.
- 44:08Emeal Zwayne: So Ray and I were here in the meantime doing the live stream.
- 44:12Emeal Zwayne: I got about an hour and a half of sleep that afternoon just to take a little nap, which was a big mistake because I was.
- 44:17Emeal Zwayne: I was exhausted, but we had so much fun.
- 44:21Emeal Zwayne: We had a great time.
- 44:22Ray Comfort: Little panic.
- 44:22Ray Comfort: just as we're beginning, We cut across to Ben and then we hear our tech guys say we've lost the tower.
- 44:29Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, like they lost the signal there.
- 44:31Ray Comfort: Yeah, there's no signal from London.
- 44:33Emeal Zwayne: Like they shut down all the towers and the signals And I thought, great, we've got four hours of me and easy.
- 44:38Ray Comfort: Yeah, but away without a Ben price or without.
- 44:40Ray Comfort: The guys come from London.
- 44:41Ray Comfort: But they got it back.
- 44:42Ray Comfort: I was just thrilled.
- 44:42Ray Comfort: And then, just as we're going to start, there was issues of copyright YouTube going to shut us down because there's music being played that they can hear and stuff like that.
- 44:51Ray Comfort: But it really worked out good.
- 44:53Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, I mean, Ben was just a breath of fresh air He is.
- 44:56Emeal Zwayne: He's just on, you know, like all of the impersonations He was doing, Trump and King Charles and Arnold, and yeah it was.
- 45:04Emeal Zwayne: it was really great.
- 45:06Oscar Navarro: I gotta say, out of all the guys I invited to work out with me while we were in London, ben was the only one that showed up.
- 45:10Oscar Navarro: Really, mark Brad Gale.
- 45:15Emeal Zwayne: All right, brown's time is a ticking and we've got to tell you about what we're going to do.
- 45:19Emeal Zwayne: Yes, 2024 will bring us the Olympics, and where a?
- 45:29Ray Comfort: In Paris I think Paris, i love London that Paris is the most wonderful city in the world.
- 45:33Ray Comfort: It's just wow.
- 45:34Ray Comfort: What about Belfast?
- 45:35Ray Comfort: It's all right.
- 45:37Oscar Navarro: It's just something about.
- 45:38Ray Comfort: Paris We've been there a number of times the, the multiculturalism, the, the The Lou, the Eiffel Tower, lou, the, all those things.
- 45:47Emeal Zwayne: Alan, we can't forget Alan, yeah it's just so, it's.
- 45:50Ray Comfort: It's so exciting that that so many people are gonna come three billion people watch the Olympics.
- 45:55Ray Comfort: Wow and so I am, i am.
- 45:57Ray Comfort: It's like London on steroids, because the Coronation of the King Charles was huge, but the whole world didn't follow it There are a lot of countries that just weren't interested, but with the Olympics the whole, yeah.
- 46:11Ray Comfort: Well it's when they say three billion people, they're not talking, kids don't watch it So that it's like almost the whole world of it.
- 46:17Oscar Navarro: I grew up watching the Olympics.
- 46:19Oscar Navarro: I grew up watching the.
- 46:20Emeal Zwayne: Olympics?
- 46:20Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, that was like a thing in our home and you didn't even have a TV.
- 46:22Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, we watched.
- 46:24Ray Comfort: Yeah, we would just draw pictures on those little magnetic things for that, Yeah and so we're going to create tracks that are going to be so exciting for people.
- 46:32Ray Comfort: They're gonna hold on to them, and I've got lots of little thoughts, like Just a little all your thoughts are a little, yeah, a little.
- 46:40Ray Comfort: Just that we're gonna print a card for Paris that this we haven't even talked about this.
- 46:44Ray Comfort: It just says free Olympic Collectibles or whatever free Olympics.
- 46:49Ray Comfort: I can't get the right word, but people are gonna be lining up for them because they're there for the Olympics and these, these are gonna be their heroes.
- 46:56Emeal Zwayne: So yeah, it's super.
- 46:57Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, that's what we're doing.
- 47:01Emeal Zwayne: So I mean, Mark, you took French for 40 years and don't even hardly know a word.
- 47:08Emeal Zwayne: I was the same too I.
- 47:09Emeal Zwayne: I took.
- 47:10Ray Comfort: French for three years.
- 47:11Ray Comfort: No and I and I see I did and I said something to a Frenchman and he learned turn around.
- 47:16Ray Comfort: This is like 30 years after, after the fact.
- 47:18Ray Comfort: But I, after three years of studying French, that teacher said, oh, this isn't the French, they speak in England.
- 47:24Ray Comfort: This is just learning.
- 47:28Oscar Navarro: Spanish in high school French with your New.
- 47:31Emeal Zwayne: Zealand.
- 47:32Ray Comfort: It's gonna be super exciting, Yeah, yeah we're very excited.
- 47:35Emeal Zwayne: So, again, make sure to check the date on when you're listening to this.
- 47:38Emeal Zwayne: This may be three, four years down the line, but this is gonna be in 2016 for the Olympics.
- 47:43Emeal Zwayne: We're so excited 2016.
- 47:45Ben Stein (voice) - EZ: Did I say?
- 47:48Oscar Navarro: In the world so we got a time machine, yeah, just like your outfit.
- 47:58Ray Comfort: Man, i missed it.
- 47:59Ray Comfort: I missed the outreach to Paris, but it's 2016.
- 48:02Emeal Zwayne: The thing is is, i said 2016, my brain I said no, no, no, 2024.
- 48:06Emeal Zwayne: And I said say 2024 and look at what.
- 48:08Ray Comfort: I sounds like you've got someone living in there, i think so All right, friends.
- 48:11Emeal Zwayne: Well, that does it for us.
- 48:12Emeal Zwayne: We're so excited, so people should subscribe to our newsletter.
- 48:15Ray Comfort: Yes living waters newsletter so we can update you when we've got things worked out.
- 48:19Oscar Navarro: That's how you do that you go to living waters calm and subscribe to the newsletter.
- 48:23Oscar Navarro: We will debt.
- 48:24Oscar Navarro: That will be the first place anybody hears about signing up and being a part of the outreach for Paris.
- 48:30Ray Comfort: Yeah, absolutely, we'll keep you posted and it's from July to August is 26 days of the Olympics.
- 48:37Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, and 2024 2024, 2016,.
- 48:41Oscar Navarro: Please don't go there in 2016, there'll be nothing there, but also call me if you have a time machine.
- 48:46Oscar Navarro: We need to talk.
- 48:47Emeal Zwayne: Yeah, let's travel.
- 48:48Emeal Zwayne: All right, friends, that does it for us.
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- 49:00Emeal Zwayne: Thank you for joining us.
- 49:01Emeal Zwayne: See you next time on the little podcast.
- 49:04Ray Comfort: Where we have no idea.
- 49:08Emeal Zwayne: Where we have no idea what we're doing.