Latest / My Third Place Pod / Episode 79 - Wrestling CSI: Sid Vicious and Arn Anderson Scissor Fight
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- 0:00All right, so it has come to my attention that not many people.
- 0:04Get the inside jokes on this show, and when I say inside
- 0:09jokes, I mean, they're not really funny.
- 0:12In particular. I just been a wrestling fan for
- 0:16such a long time. I just find a certain things
- 0:20hilarious. Like when someone says they're
- 0:24losing their smile, Nobody says that, but when someone says that
- 0:30my brain goes to Shawn Michaels and it's over dramatic speech
- 0:35about losing his smile. When someone says superkick
- 0:39party. I immediately think I'm a kicks
- 0:42because I've watched WrestleMania 9 so many times by
- 0:45now, my brain is usual words coming out of your brother's
- 0:49mouth. When describing a superkick, Jim
- 0:52Ross, world-renowned wrestling commentator, journalist The
- 0:57Legend and the wrestling business had won the many flubs
- 1:02and his first night on the job at his first WrestleMania,
- 1:11Moving on. When someone says step into my
- 1:14office, And that office ends up being the showers, my dark and
- 1:21twisted. Mind immediately wants to stop
- 1:25and yell. No, don't do it.
- 1:29Don't make a deal with the Devil.
- 1:32Yeah, that's a reference to the Bruiser, Brody thing that turned
- 1:38dark a little bit there. Okay, so not what I was going
- 1:43through. We'll look when the acclaimed
- 1:46are talking about scissoring, each other.
- 1:50My brain immediately goes to haha.
- 1:53Funny scissoring, get it straight to scissors.
- 1:58Hey scissors. You know who shouldn't be
- 2:02allowed near scissors. Sid Vicious.
- 2:09Oh shoot. This is going to turn into a
- 2:12dark episode. You're listening to Mama
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- 4:13listening. Welcome back podcasting,
- 4:27friends. I'm Ernie.
- 4:29I talk a lot mostly about wrestling.
- 4:31Sometimes the now mostly the then maybe possibly until
- 4:37forever, and if you're up for it, may be together.
- 4:45I tried, I'm here, you're there. But most importantly, I ain't
- 4:51coming to you from Other the apron and this, this is our last
- 4:58episode of the year. We have made it 20:22 is in our
- 5:04rearview mirror. It's time for the road to 2023.
- 5:10I am pointing at the 2023 sign, just like I would, if it was
- 5:14WrestleMania, don't worry, I'll soon be doing that as well.
- 5:21Hey, happy New Year, right? Right.
- 5:23Okay, so, for our last episode of the year, I think it's time,
- 5:28we finally talked about the elephant in the room.
- 5:34Okay, not maybe not the elf. No, not the elephant, the
- 5:38scissors in the room. I'm looking at one right now.
- 5:42The scissor, this is her in the room.
- 5:45Scissors in the room, the scissor incident in the room, I
- 5:51left a hint, a few hands. And maybe for what this episode
- 5:57could be about. I got mostly wrong answers.
- 6:02But the for hint I left on Twitter and Instagram where a
- 6:06picture of Justice you know Blind Justice Justice, okay?
- 6:14Never again a horse, the aw Tag Team Champions, the acclaimed
- 6:21and blood splatter Now what do these have in common?
- 6:27You ask what does one thing have to do with the other?
- 6:32I'm glad you asked let me just tell you the Justice picture was
- 6:36for wrestler Sid Justice and bigger.
- 6:43If I had used the actual Sid Vicious people would have gotten
- 6:47it right away. You know Sid Vicious from The
- 6:50Sex Pistols. Not actual Sid.
- 6:53Vicious from wrestling. Either way, either Sid Vicious
- 6:57would people would have been known then the next one was a
- 7:02horse, a horse, a horse yeah, horse yes, a horse man, a horse
- 7:12man, a Horseman, the best one of the best Horsemen, Arn Anderson.
- 7:20And by now, you probably figured out the acclaimed was a
- 7:23misdirect. And at the same time, it wasn't.
- 7:27What are the acclaimed known for?
- 7:30What are they known for tell me? Tommy Tommy, Tommy, they're
- 7:32known for scissoring. Yeah, doing this weird thing
- 7:37where I'm scissoring myself, oh goodness, I'm scissoring myself.
- 7:43Okay, that's can we get past this?
- 7:46All right. And the last thing, of course
- 7:50this the blood splatter as the final picture, it just means I'm
- 7:54going to be talking about the Sid Vicious and Arn Anderson
- 7:58scissor fight from almost 30 years ago.
- 8:03So with that being said, trigger warning before we begin, do you
- 8:10do a trigger warning? I've never done these kinds of
- 8:13True Crime, type episode Besties anybody that does True Crime,
- 8:23you guys do a trigger word like no, well, Mama Maria Pakistan.
- 8:29I don't think she's ever done it, trigger warning.
- 8:32Okay, so but either way, you know I the only one I've ever
- 8:38gone of these kinds of True Crime.
- 8:40Type episode was episode 31 and it was the wrestling matches
- 8:46that turn into Route should fight.
- 8:49I talked about energetic match in New, Japan Pro Wrestling
- 8:52involving Oscar, who is known as cannot time getting in a poodle
- 8:58altercation with Nori Suzuki. I eventually have a link in the
- 9:03show notes on where you can watch that match it now, that's
- 9:07trigger warning before you even start.
- 9:10All right, so but before I start, I want to wish everyone
- 9:16I'm a happy 2023, happy New Year everybody.
- 9:21We made it, happy holidays to everyone out there for these
- 9:26others. I thought I hinty.
- 9:29So the hint, a Gala espanol, a Puerto Rico, Venezuela,
- 9:35Nicaragua Mexico. Because that's the only
- 9:39language. I know how to speak other than
- 9:42English language that well either, but yes, but these are,
- 9:48that's all I can say, gracias, por could try to make your
- 9:51access port. Stop bolo, give me that man
- 9:54knows that is he I'm excited? Shout out to Selena.
- 10:04We love her but Yeah. Happy 23.
- 10:12Whoever listening be safe out there if you're out partying and
- 10:17stuff. Be cool.
- 10:19And can't wait to talk to you again and the new year.
- 10:24But going back to the holidays, I didn't get anything big, but I
- 10:30did get two small things and I wanted to share them with you
- 10:34all because it was an awesome gift.
- 10:37First one, was a hungry one podcast episode template book by
- 10:41David Hooper is such a book, great book.
- 10:46It's such a great book to read because I finished it it done, I
- 10:53could have finished it. Earlier because I was so
- 10:56freaking excited to read it but I decided.
- 11:00All right, let me chill for a moment because I realized I was
- 11:04almost like it's the same thing that I do with Netflix and
- 11:08binging shows like I'm watching don't realize that oh shoot a
- 11:13deficit. So same thing with books I read
- 11:16it until the last few chapters and I'm like alright pacing
- 11:21pacing pacing but it's Such an exciting book it.
- 11:26He's also such an exciting person.
- 11:29And let me tell you the boring part about him, as he puts it in
- 11:34the back of his book, He's a media marketing expert based in
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- 11:46Yeah, like I said, it's a fun book.
- 11:48Something that I would take into consideration from him, is
- 11:54making the show, my very own and having fun with it, you know,
- 11:57going against the grain. If the these podcasts are doing
- 12:01this thing, you go ahead and do that.
- 12:03Other thing you got to read it. It's all in the book and the
- 12:07other book, which I will be reading soon for those that
- 12:12don't know, I'm a big fan of the challenge.
- 12:16You know, real world versus Road Rules back in the day.
- 12:21Now, just know that the challenge, but I guess you
- 12:24already knew that by the bananas audio have inserted in some of
- 12:28these Banger mattress. But the book that was given to
- 12:32me for Christmas was how to win at the challenge and life.
- 12:36It Champions guide to eliminating obstacles, winning
- 12:38friends, and making that money by Sidney.
- 12:43Fox, bam, I skimmed through the book.
- 12:46Just for a taste. I look at the back and looks
- 12:48like former Champions are in the book for you of my favorite.
- 12:52Of course. Bananas, Ct West, Rachel
- 12:58Robinson. So I'm gonna have to crack this
- 13:01book when I get a chance, another reason I'm excited to
- 13:06share the news that I'm still being heard worldwide.
- 13:13I'll forever. Say like that, I don't care.
- 13:15I'm still Will being heard worldwide if you're new here, I
- 13:21kind of love to share these small accomplishments on here.
- 13:25I don't care if you've been listening for a while.
- 13:30You know how I feel about these moments.
- 13:33I feel like we've been through a whole year if you guys listening
- 13:35to me, ramble. And so I want to share with you
- 13:37all who these countries are a lot of countries.
- 13:42Hey, whoa. There's a lot of countries.
- 13:45Let me just tell you. You.
- 13:47I and they would actually take an insane person to actually
- 13:52sit. There list them all insane.
- 13:58Hey, maybe not insane. Insane is to of a work, I would
- 14:04say kind of like a maniac maniac.
- 14:08You don't Maniac. You don't think so.
- 14:12All right. What if I said?
- 14:15An animated maniac. You see where I'm going with
- 14:20this. Okay.
- 14:21More like an anime. Niak?
- 14:24Yes, he where? I get it.
- 14:25All right, hit it Yakko. United States, Canada, Mexico,
- 14:33Panama, Haiti, Jamaica, Peru Republic, Dominican Cuba
- 14:37Carribean, Greenland, El Salvador to Puerto Rico Columbia
- 14:40Venezuela, Honduras, Guyana, and still Guatemala Bolivia, then
- 14:44Argentina and Ecuador, Chile Brazil, Costa Rica Belize,
- 14:47Nicaragua Bermuda, Bahamas. Okay, I'm just exaggerating only
- 14:5940 countries. He didn't.
- 15:03He didn't name some of them but you know, but they're mostly
- 15:09from the Netherlands Spain. I didn't Tina and Mexico, I'll
- 15:16go through them another time. But right now, let's just start
- 15:20this show. Alright, so we have to go back
- 15:46to October 1983 in England. That was a rather different
- 15:51year. Here for rustling, especially in
- 15:54world championship wrestling WCW.
- 15:56At the time, the first night of the European tour for them at a
- 16:00house show. Now, I wasn't a fan of docility
- 16:04at the time I didn't know much about those W.
- 16:07I only knew WF existed so I didn't get into W until possibly
- 16:131994 when I made friends around my neighborhood and they told me
- 16:17that they were going to watch a pay-per-view.
- 16:19And my first instinct was, Definitely, I didn't know any
- 16:24better. But it was around that same time
- 16:29that Hogan was joining and all that.
- 16:32So that's probably why. So there was a card at this
- 16:40house show in England and it went like so the Hollywood
- 16:47blondes flying. Brian pillman and stunning Steve
- 16:51Austin defeated the team of 2 cold Scorpio and Anna Xander
- 16:56Bagwell who we all would know later years as buff is the stuff
- 17:03Bagwell from the end of the video.
- 17:07Ricky Steamboat defeated Max Payne, The Nasty Boys, defeated
- 17:13Arn, Anderson and Jenny, be bad Ric Flair defeated William Regal
- 17:18who held a w television championship and went by Lord
- 17:23Steven Regal in a non-title match.
- 17:25Duh, The road and sting defeated the tag team of Rick Rude and
- 17:29Sid Vicious. And in the main event, Big Van
- 17:33Vader, retain his WWE World Championship.
- 17:36When he cured himself against Davey Boy, Smith also known as
- 17:40The British Bulldog throughout the years.
- 17:45The story has changed on who started.
- 17:49You know, who was? We're at that moment?
- 17:52What actually happened. So this is going to be
- 17:55different. Current account from different
- 17:57people reliable and it's coming from different websites.
- 18:02You know, I just figured I put it into one whole thing and, you
- 18:06know, get it into some of it. What actually happens.
- 18:10Some of it is from that other person's point of view.
- 18:15I will post the site as well as a video footage of everyone's
- 18:18account. And Deputy president reaction in
- 18:23all of this in the show notes. So it starts off with according
- 18:29to Vader, you know, they were working nonstop for three weeks
- 18:34and then they had to board a plane and work for two more
- 18:37weeks in the European tour. He says they should just got off
- 18:44the plane, wrestled went to bed and then skip the day, know what
- 18:49I'm saying? Skip the day and stayed over
- 18:51there. We're talking about.
- 18:53There was beer, the food ran out and everybody was drinking by
- 18:58the time we get off, 10 hours later we're talking about an AR
- 19:02hour, plane ride, a two and a half hour trip fighting and a 10
- 19:06hour bus ride, the guys were frazzled, and And Warren another
- 19:12witness account, 2, cold Scorpio, who went on to say,
- 19:17quote, we go over there. Flying to Blackburn England, we
- 19:21drove three hours, good a show, just off the plane and did that
- 19:26show after the show. We had a three or four-hour
- 19:29drive. Maybe even five back to the
- 19:32hotel where we were staying out of Blackburn.
- 19:35Everyone was off the bus, taking a few pills, having a few
- 19:38drinks. And quote.
- 19:43Here's the situation a few people that were there.
- 19:48We're sitting in various different places.
- 19:51Evader was sitting with Steve Austin, having a few beers
- 19:55having a few laughs, he recalls seeing a fight.
- 19:58Break out between said and iron, he does nothing him and our
- 20:03Austin, him and Austin are too tired and want to enjoy their
- 20:07drink. So they just sit there and watch
- 20:10the argument unfold. They didn't think any Nothing of
- 20:13it. Of course, they're just saw it
- 20:14like, oh, they're just gonna blow off steam later on.
- 20:16It's all good, but according to 2, cold Scorpio who was sitting
- 20:21in front of them and saw the whole thing happened, but you
- 20:26also love to bring up the fact that he's not office.
- 20:30But he was the one who broke the fight up.
- 20:33He was the one who went to the hospital with them, he made the
- 20:37report, he was one of the people who married to report and he had
- 20:41to call the wives or something. Again, others of the wrestlers
- 20:45to tell them what was going on and what transpired at night.
- 20:49So what he remembers is he was having a few drinks with all the
- 20:54boys and Arn, Anderson questing as to what was wrong with their
- 20:58business. Why couldn't they draw Sid
- 21:03decided to chime in with you want to know what's wrong with
- 21:08our business? We have an old man and Ric Flair
- 21:12who. Needs to get the fuck out of the
- 21:14way. Yeah, basically saying they need
- 21:18to pave the way for the younger Talent, the hungry Talent they
- 21:22want to eat too. They are starving, you know, Ric
- 21:27Flair Arn Anderson. They're all eating from the
- 21:30buffet. These young cats want a shot at
- 21:33that. Buffet also they want to, they
- 21:38want to get these guys out of the way.
- 21:42Yogurt. So Anderson took offense to this
- 21:47because you know that's his best friend without Ric Flair Arn
- 21:53Anderson with just some guy jumping from a stable stable
- 21:58until Ric Flair. Came back to WWE from the we.
- 22:03So he really needed his best friend back and in doing so he
- 22:07stood up for him, he basically through A glass, a coke bottle,
- 22:17a bottle glass at, Sid, according to 2 cold, Scorpio.
- 22:24He recalled saying as soon as money was brought up and he was
- 22:28getting paid more than Who and the shutter Ric Flair, the beer
- 22:32bottles were flying all over the place.
- 22:36Mmm. Okay, so I'm going to stop right
- 22:39here because it's a good time to point out that this isn't Sid
- 22:45first fight with the WWE, boys. He is toxic.
- 22:50He is he is basically the problem here years prior in
- 23:03October of 91 Whilst it was working for the.
- 23:07We does Italy was in town and they were drinking beer at the
- 23:11more Mata Plaza, Atlanta airport hotel.
- 23:16So save showed up ran his mouth about how it's so much better to
- 23:20work into the UF and showing off in front of Brian pillman.
- 23:24And Mike Graham who told him to just shut up, you know like if
- 23:29you if your tongue basically if you hearing someone say like,
- 23:34yeah, my God. Bob is better because they pay
- 23:37this and that and this and that and you're shoving it in your
- 23:40face. You just want to tell him to
- 23:41shut up already. Dude.
- 23:43Come on. Go go somewhere else.
- 23:44Go! Go to your job.
- 23:46That's how he was problematic. That's house.
- 23:50It was he riled him up and all that stuff and then you know,
- 24:00Sid was an instigator, he was problematic, he Toxic.
- 24:07He began saying he's drawing more money than Graham has made
- 24:12an entire career. He then sets his sights on Brian
- 24:18pillman who earlier in the year at War Games, you know, the to
- 24:24cage thing but this one in those earlier you had AKA roof on the
- 24:32cage. So it was like as Tall as say it
- 24:37is like do to just have to like raise his hand up and he grabbed
- 24:42a cage and the guy is like, 69 610.
- 24:46He's, he's tall. You'd like he can grab it right
- 24:49there, but he intentionally injured pillman.
- 24:54He lifted him up for a powerbomb and he can't even lift him up
- 24:58all the way up because of the cage.
- 25:00So, to prove a point. He lifted him up for a powerbomb
- 25:03but released him and it landed. Added on his neck.
- 25:11It was a bad situation at the time but here at this time, both
- 25:18Graham and pillman got up to approach Sid who back down, but
- 25:24had an unnecessary eschews, that his bicep was torn and didn't
- 25:29want to injure it some more or else he fight.
- 25:33If you're going to instigate a fight and then back down,
- 25:36because you're currently, and you're don't instigate this damn
- 25:39fight. That was a, you know, goodness,
- 25:46that was a horrible thing to do. This was a case of fuck around
- 25:56and find out. So pillman and Graham both
- 26:01laughed at said, being injured and coming down to talk trash.
- 26:06That's is left, but came back with a weapon and challenge G
- 26:11and film into a fight. So G, grab that weapon from Sith
- 26:20and, you know, just took it away from him and it ended up being a
- 26:26squeegee. You know, the thing that you
- 26:30used to wipe your windshield, from all the bugs said went out
- 26:34to a parking lot and found himself a squeegee and said this
- 26:39will do is yeah, anything else that would have okay, like
- 26:46you're 69, these two guys are like probably shorter than you
- 26:51and you're going to try to fight them off with a squeegee.
- 26:55Bruce Prichard from the something to wrestle with
- 26:59podcast. Recalls, my G telling his side
- 27:03of the story and adding that as soon as he ripped the squeegee
- 27:06off of Sid, he told him he was going to shove that thing up is
- 27:11ass. If he didn't leave well he left
- 27:17and both. Graham and pillman were deemed
- 27:19Heroes for the situation. He wrote as in Two small guys
- 27:27you know backing up or you know, having the big guy, the 69 guy
- 27:33Retreat and you know go away because he was annoying as hell
- 27:37at the time like WF guy with you know, talking smack.
- 27:43So there was that later night night 3 said would come back and
- 27:51work, alongside both Mike Graham who is now Road agent and of
- 27:57course Brian pillman. So there's a story Kate and
- 28:04points. It has issues with people in the
- 28:06locker room, he gets into fight. You know, he's problematic, we
- 28:11all know that. So we fast forward to this
- 28:14moment right here. The fight gets broken up and
- 28:21they are told to go to the rooms aren't and is in his boys leave
- 28:25Beers in their hands and said, wait a while with Vader to go to
- 28:29his room. At the hotel city's trying to
- 28:33make it to the room. But in his way is Anderson, who
- 28:37is hanging out by his room with a few other people drinking.
- 28:43Anderson. See Sid had his way he breaks
- 28:46the bottle at Trenton's to cut. Sid, it doesn't happen.
- 28:52Of course, he lets it go to his room.
- 28:57It'll also a good thing to point out that their rooms.
- 29:01We're right across from each other, according to security,
- 29:08those silly security said, then recall saying in his head, You
- 29:13know, I wanted to go back to the bar but I actually went in my
- 29:17room eight, a part of my sandwich and said to myself,
- 29:21man, this motherfucker you don't, I have a bad temper, too.
- 29:27I said this effort through a beer in my face and now he's
- 29:32threatening me with a effing beer bottle, broken.
- 29:36You know, you have to draw a second line, right?
- 29:40So, He says there was a chair sitting right there so he broke
- 29:46the chair. The broke.
- 29:50He said there was a chair sitting right there so he broke
- 29:53the leg off of it and he was going to go Whack Him in his
- 29:57head a couple of times. So he leaves with the leg of the
- 30:04chair. Like it's a two by four over her
- 30:06shoulder. Remind you of anyone.
- 30:10Oh, Choose. What is his name?
- 30:17I forgot already Hacksaw Jim Duggan.
- 30:19All right cool, he went looking for a fight and was hoping, Arne
- 30:25was still a standing outside his hotel room but everyone was
- 30:29gone. So instead, Sid walks over
- 30:34knocks on the door and yells out, come on out here mf'er and
- 30:38bring your beer bottle. Some back and forth between them
- 30:44and it's at this time that said, realizes that what he's doing is
- 30:48wrong and stupid. So, he throws the leg away and
- 30:52starts walking away from the door.
- 30:55He starts heading up to the bar, but Anderson opens the door, sit
- 31:01turns around and are in his standing, there with a pair of
- 31:04scissors, said, tells him that this has gone too far and he
- 31:08tried to shake his hand, but Anderson rushed It with the
- 31:11scissors. According to Sid, he doesn't
- 31:15remember getting stabbed at first.
- 31:18He says, quote, there were two doors in the corridor there and
- 31:22he backed me up there and I had nowhere deaf and run when he
- 31:27came into me and got close to me.
- 31:30I think I hit him one time and he fell to him like at my feet.
- 31:34When he did, I looked at him and out of the corner of my eye, I
- 31:37saw the scissors fall. They're falling out of my My
- 31:40stomach, I have a scar right there so when I saw the scissors
- 31:45falling out, I realized I had been stabbed.
- 31:48I didn't feel it in my face or hands but he launched back for
- 31:51them a second time but my feet had got them first and then I
- 31:56don't know, it happened so fast. Oh boy.
- 32:01So the next person to see this 2 cold Scorpio his account he you
- 32:11know, he says he stopped the fight. but, 2 cold Scorpio says,
- 32:22he thought it was Vader getting into a fight with somebody
- 32:25because I was so loud, so he goes to Vader's room, first,
- 32:29knock on his door, to get him to calm down.
- 32:32He instead he hears snoring through the door.
- 32:36Too cold, recalls Vader. Snore can be hurt or two hotel
- 32:39rooms. This man was out cold but not
- 32:43for long. He kept knocking at the door
- 32:45nobody answered. So too cold continues to hear
- 32:49more commotion. So he continued to walk towards
- 32:53the yelling and screaming until he sees the blood.
- 32:58He says, quote Blood on the left, Blood on the right blood
- 33:03all down the effing hallway and It.
- 33:07I keep on walking and I'm in the effing hallway with a goddamn
- 33:12towel. I get down there and said,
- 33:16vicious and Arn Anderson are down there at your sprawling.
- 33:19They were covered enough and blood.
- 33:22This man saw a whole slasher movie, right before his very
- 33:25eyes, how do you come back from that?
- 33:30He goes on to say, Sid, Vicious got the effing scissors and got
- 33:35Arn, Anderson by the hair and he's putting him to f'ing face.
- 33:39Stabbing him with the scissors Every Which Way Arn Anderson got
- 33:43blood. Splitting spitting out of him
- 33:45like a horror movie and shit pan.
- 33:48I see sick kicking orange nose and it does a 180 turn straight
- 33:52the F up and shit. I'm like damn he continues.
- 33:59I jump in. Boom, push them apart.
- 34:02Art and shit. And I don't understand just kind
- 34:04of Falls against a wall from half-drunk and half lots of
- 34:08blood and shit and he just kind of stumble against the wall sit
- 34:12kind of stepped back and he looks at me and I step back into
- 34:15my stance and I'm like, damn what have to take you down?
- 34:21You know what I'm saying? But that shit got stopped.
- 34:24So just looked at my eyes, just looked at me Eyes Wide Open
- 34:28freaked out. So, Sid, realizes what he's
- 34:34doing. He comes to he snapped out of
- 34:37it, there's a reason they call him psycho, Sid, and WWE.
- 34:42And this is probably why one of the reasons shoot, man.
- 34:48Obviously, this man has the problem.
- 34:51He says he hurt Arn, say that he's killing him, and when he
- 34:55comes to sit drop, the scissors looks around and says he's Act,
- 35:00he dropped down. Your adrenaline has worn off.
- 35:04He realizes he's been stabbed and walks out of the hallway.
- 35:11Too cold is tending to Arn Anderson, he can't, he finally
- 35:15realized that that Sid has walked away but you know, you
- 35:20can't go after one person. While the other one is dying at
- 35:24your feet, so he let him go in the hallway.
- 35:30And back. We're going to go back to Vader
- 35:33who finally wakes up because he heard commotion.
- 35:37He walks out in his underwear, nothing but his tighty-whities.
- 35:42Hide your wives. There's a 400-pound Vader in his
- 35:46underwear. Just being Helen nosy.
- 35:51He says that some guy was walking towards him like a
- 35:54zombie, he's half asleep, but finally, wakes up to realize its
- 35:58ID with Blood all over his body Vader.
- 36:02Grabs ID, tackles him down on the floor, and saw that all the
- 36:07blood was rushing out acid stomach.
- 36:10Raider recall this moment on Hannibal TV saying that every
- 36:13time sits heartbeat about a nickel size of blood would come
- 36:18out. This look like a fountain.
- 36:21This man is going to die. Let's blood was coming out.
- 36:26He was dying. He says that the only thing that
- 36:28could stop the blood with from coming.
- 36:30Nowt was him pushing his thumb inside?
- 36:33Sid stomach? He told said not to move calls
- 36:38for help and more towels. 400-pound, man in his Whitey's
- 36:44now. They're soaked red.
- 36:46Now because there's blood is all over that man.
- 36:52I'm gonna get drunk. That's about half a cup of
- 36:56vodka. Drink drink drink.
- 36:59Wait. Are we live?
- 37:00Hi. I'm Jessica One.
- 37:02Professional skill that I would really like to learn is
- 37:05stripping I'm Sonya because like I'm okay with not being
- 37:09artistic, like I'm just like that's cool.
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- 37:16I'll make a tomato vodka soon. Also known as like a caesar once
- 37:23a week. We get together to drink and
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- 38:23Vader doesn't remember how long he held his finger in but the
- 38:26ambulance finally shows up 2 cold Scorpio.
- 38:30And one of the officers guys, Richard Steinberg, head to the
- 38:33hospital with them too. Cold says, they ends up staying
- 38:38over there. Filling out papers for iron and
- 38:40filling out papers for Sid. Real name, address the whole
- 38:44nine yards, and I'm over there doing the same filling out
- 38:47papers for Syd. I'm like, damn, you know what
- 38:50I'm saying? So Sid has to have exploratory
- 38:54surgery arms got to get patched up from head to toe damn near
- 38:59and shit with all his damn Cuts Richard Steinberg who was a w
- 39:05official on the store and was the director of marketing
- 39:08services on the entire tour. Got a phone call at 2:30 in the
- 39:12morning and was told to go to the lobby.
- 39:17He gets off the elevator and those are the crime scene
- 39:19because that's what it was. He passes by both Arne and Syd's
- 39:24room right across from each other.
- 39:27Lots of blood everywhere and smashed Furniture.
- 39:31He passes by the lobby and notices the entire front glass.
- 39:34Window is smashed out, says, on the floor Mater dying.
- 39:39So, he covers to other wounds with his hands until the
- 39:42ambulance gets there. He recalls, Sid crying all the
- 39:46way to the hospital. One moment saying that he wanted
- 39:49to want to die. And the next moment he's saying,
- 39:52he's fucked up and he's never going to be WWE world champion
- 39:57and man is dying in his, the only thing you can think about,
- 40:02oh, shoot. I'm never gonna be WWF Champion,
- 40:05which reminds me so much of Scream.
- 40:10And stew and he's getting eat talking to Sydney on the phone.
- 40:16This is like towards the end towards the climax and he like
- 40:22after all this stuff that's going on.
- 40:24After all the murders, he tell he asked, any did you really
- 40:28call the cops? And she said, yeah and then he
- 40:32says, my very good of you mad at me or something like that.
- 40:38I don't remember the exact quote, I Jesus life, love that
- 40:41up. Okay, but this is what protest
- 40:44reminded me of. I fucked up.
- 40:47I'm never gonna be no show me which a to get, but I'm dying
- 40:53for them. Think I'm dying man.
- 40:55Oh, scream was one of my favorite movies.
- 40:58Anyway, that's how scissors. Damn.
- 41:04So, He Steinberg tries to contact disability back in
- 41:10Atlanta but it's the middle of the night over there.
- 41:13They're out in England. He leaves a message to Eric
- 41:16Bischoff president. He stays up all night at the
- 41:20hospital in the WWE was head of security.
- 41:22Doug Dillinger shows up to relieve him and he gets some
- 41:27sleep when he wakes up he gets a call from Atlanta telling him to
- 41:31remain in Blackburn with stayed in Iron.
- 41:33While the tour continues to the next city.
- 41:35He's he says a day or two later. When the guys were stable enough
- 41:40to travel W told me to take the guys on different days, the
- 41:44different airports to get them back to the United States.
- 41:47I ultimately puts it in a taxi and send them on his way to the
- 41:50airport. The next day I did the same with
- 41:53iron but taxi to a different airport on the third day.
- 41:58I grabbed two trains and cut up with a tour in Birmingham
- 42:01England, I walked into the lobby of the hotel and probably sat
- 42:05down To breakfast with Rick Rude and Rick Rude is probably saying
- 42:10so how was your weekend? Oh man.
- 42:14That's crazy. Eric Bischoff on his 83, week's
- 42:22podcast with Conrad Thompson. He got the phone call from Doug
- 42:27Dillinger, he gave him a status report.
- 42:31On both said, in Iron, he also had opinions, he expressed those
- 42:36opinions and influence them, but the final decision was Bill Shah
- 42:41at the time. The only they ultimately had to
- 42:45look at the engine. In itself, the message that is
- 42:48sent the perception and reality of how well the management
- 42:53handle it. They heard the fight started
- 42:57because it was bragging. He got a hundred thousand
- 42:59dollars every year. Raise and aren't got a pay cut
- 43:04from Bill Watts. He's also spewing saying it's
- 43:10time for sting to step out into the Limelight and the old
- 43:15fuckers like Ric Flair and iron need to retire, they're holding
- 43:20the younger Talent back, be got into an argument Dillinger.
- 43:24Took our to his room, according to iron, Sid came in, with the
- 43:29leg of the chair. Hit aren't in the head knocked
- 43:32him out and when he came to sit was on top of him.
- 43:36So our and grabbed a pair of scissors nearby and started
- 43:38stabbing Sid with it. WWE criticized by WWE was
- 43:44criticized over the way they handled the situation half a
- 43:48dozen people giving different account of the same thing.
- 43:51There was no definitive story that Doug said he could believe.
- 43:54So they didn't get a clear picture and is the reason how it
- 43:59was handled Conrad Thompson says the original plan for start
- 44:04getting December was pervaded, the dropped the facility World
- 44:07Championship the Sid, but he was let go to his incident.
- 44:11Instead it became the W world champion Vader, dropping the
- 44:14belt, to that old man Ric Flair. Yeah, and July of 1994 said,
- 44:23shows up in Jerry, Lawler's promotion the uswa and in 1995,
- 44:27we all know he showed up in WF as Shawn Michaels new bodyguard
- 44:32dubbed Sycho, Sid. So, let's go back at the
- 44:38hospital and the aftermath of all this a few days after a
- 44:41fight broke out, say, is being questioned by the police and
- 44:45wanting to press charges against Anderson.
- 44:48Do the Stab Wound. He tells them quote.
- 44:52Nah, man, I'm not going to press charges against him.
- 44:55We both made mistakes. I don't know how bad he's really
- 44:58hurt. I really didn't and they're
- 45:01like, you know, your friend. He's got not one scratch on him.
- 45:05Here, I'm having a flirt Surgery already I guess dabs on my face
- 45:09and I said he's not got a scratch on him.
- 45:13I thought maybe as I say it happened so fast.
- 45:17I really don't remember it happening.
- 45:20I thought this mother of her so I was going to press charges on
- 45:23him later that night. The nurse came over to my room
- 45:27and said your friend is really messed up so he what he gets up
- 45:31walks over to Anderson room and he's messed up.
- 45:35The cops came back to next morning and told him he's not
- 45:38signing that, the aftermath Arn Anderson suffered 20 stab wounds
- 45:45to the chest and stomach. Well Sid was only stabbed four
- 45:49times W president Eric Bischoff fired said after several
- 45:54wrestlers threatened to walk out, if he was not terminated
- 45:58Anders and only got off with a suspension said, has since
- 46:01apologized to Anderson for the instant and the pair are on good
- 46:06terms together. Today.
- 46:09Alright, that is going to do it for us today.
- 46:12But before we go, let me know what you thought of this
- 46:15episode. Should I do more episodes like
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- 46:23Also, what should we call it? I know it was going on Twitter
- 46:27and Instagram, both of them with the hashtag wrestling CSI.
- 46:35And what you guys think of that? If I come up with another name
- 46:40for this, I'll probably do a pull and we'll see how that
- 46:44goes. But yeah, thank you for
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