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The DiCecco Daily: Eagles Try To Push Forward After Cowboys Implosion · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: It's Andrew DiCecco, Eagles beat reporter for InsideTheBirds.com. And today
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  Speaker 1: kicks off another week. It's a short week and the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles face the Washington Commanders in primetime Sunday night in
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  Speaker 1: Landover at Northwest Stadium. But before that happens, we have
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  Speaker 1: a week of preparation to cover. And today was the first.
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  Speaker 2: Day of that.
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  Speaker 1: And we heard from Nick Sirianni earlier in the day.
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  Speaker 1: And we also heard from defensive coordinator Vic Fangio. We
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  Speaker 1: heard from Jalen Carter in the locker room. We heard
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  Speaker 1: from Reek Wolin. I had a chance to catch up
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  Speaker 1: with running back Elijah Mitchell, who's on the practice squad.
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  Speaker 1: But as the injury situation continues to develop here with
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles, he may be factoring relatively prominently in the
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  Speaker 1: backfield on Sunday night.
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  Speaker 2: But we'll get to all of that.
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  Speaker 1: I want to remind everybody to continue to check out
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  Speaker 1: the Birds podcast, Birds Weekly, and all the great shows
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  Speaker 1: that we have inside the data, all the great stuff
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  Speaker 1: that we have on the platform. And right before we
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  Speaker 1: got into the locker room and before Vic Fangio spoke,
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles made some roster moves and they placed running
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  Speaker 1: back Damian Pierce on injured reserve. He injured himself in
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  Speaker 1: the game. I think that was in the third or
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  Speaker 1: fourth quarter. It's an undisclosed injury because it happened so
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  Speaker 1: late in the game it wasn't disclosed. But Jaden Blue
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  Speaker 1: is now back on the active roster. Elijah Mitchell is
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  Speaker 1: on the practice squad. He reverted back to the practice
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  Speaker 1: squad after the game. He was elevated for Monday Night Football.
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  Speaker 1: And then on the practice squad, the Eagles signed guard
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  Speaker 1: Evan Bernston, wide receiver Quentin Skinner, and defensive back Sean Wade.
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  Speaker 1: So let's look at the running back situation, and then
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  Speaker 1: we'll get to the practice report and some of the
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  Speaker 1: things that Vic Fangio had to say. The running back
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  Speaker 1: situation is a little shaky right now. And when you
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  Speaker 1: consider the fact that Saquon Barkley battled to go out
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  Speaker 1: there and do whatever he could for the team, but
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  Speaker 1: he has the hamstring and the back injury, and Saquon
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  Speaker 1: you have to wonder that version of Saquon Barkley, he
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  Speaker 1: was still dominant, but sometimes you have to.
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  Speaker 2: Protect the player from themself.
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  Speaker 1: And in this case, maybe you want to give him
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more time to get healthy. And even
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  Speaker 1: if he does play, I have to imagine that the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles would have him on a pretty significant pitch count,
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  Speaker 1: just given the nature of his injury.
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  Speaker 2: And you're not going to make it any better by
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  Speaker 2: being out there.
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  Speaker 1: You need a healthy Saquon Barkley or close to healthy
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  Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley in order to really try to get this
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  Speaker 1: thing rolling. And maybe this week, on a short week
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  Speaker 1: no less... you would think that maybe it would be
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  Speaker 1: pretty questionable that he would be out there. Now, Saquon
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  Speaker 1: seemed to think that he was going to be able to,
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  Speaker 1: he seemed pretty optimistic after the game. But then again,
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  Speaker 1: you have to let this week play out in practice.
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  Speaker 1: But if he doesn't go, and even if he does,
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  Speaker 1: the number two running back in that case, if Saquon
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  Speaker 1: does go, would be Elijah Mitchell. And he's a sixth-year veteran.
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  Speaker 1: He was drafted out of Louisiana, Lafayette, Louisiana. And I
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  Speaker 1: remember watching him play. I covered the Sun Belt. for
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  Speaker 1: a different outlet back then, years and years ago, and
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  Speaker 1: that was a player that I highlighted. I think that
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  Speaker 1: there's still stories that I've written about him as a
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  Speaker 1: player to watch at one point, and they had a
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  Speaker 1: three-headed rushing attack at Louisiana Lafayette, and I thought that
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  Speaker 1: he was the most impressive, and he's hung around.
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  Speaker 2: He jumped in.
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  Speaker 1: I talked to him today, and he mentioned that when
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  Speaker 1: his opportunity first came, it was because Raheem Mostert, a
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  Speaker 1: former Eagles running back, got injured, and Kyle Shanahan ghosted
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  Speaker 1: him and said, are you ready to go? And he
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  Speaker 1: jumped in there, and he was a really good fit
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  Speaker 1: for the outside zone and some of those stretch runs
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  Speaker 1: that they were doing and they implemented there.
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  Speaker 2: And he liked what he saw in Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 1: For the brief time that he was there in training camp.
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  Speaker 1: And he mentioned that if there was an opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: come back, that's where.
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  Speaker 2: He wanted to be.
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  Speaker 1: And talked about the connection that he has with Nick Sirianni.
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  Speaker 1: He really seems to like the organization, even though he
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  Speaker 1: hasn't had a ton of time.
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  Speaker 2: He felt the brotherhood.
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  Speaker 1: He felt just the overall warm reception that he got.
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  Speaker 2: And he ends up coming back.
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  Speaker 1: He mentioned that when he did get hurt and waived,
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  Speaker 1: he was working in Dallas, working out at Sports Academy.
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  Speaker 2: And he hadn't really played a ton of special teams yet.
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  Speaker 1: But he was out there on special teams for the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles on Monday night. By the end of the game,
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  Speaker 1: he was getting carries because they shut down Saquon and
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  Speaker 1: Damian Pierce left the game injured. So you could see
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  Speaker 1: a lot of Elijah Mitchell on Sunday night. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: you're likely to, regardless of what happens one way or another.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm curious to see what he can do. And
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  Speaker 1: if you think about this. Think about all of the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles running backs who have taken snaps this season. Saquon Barkley,
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  Speaker 1: Tank Bigsby, Will Shipley, Damian Pierce, Carson Steele, Elijah Mitchell,
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  Speaker 1: maybe Jaden Blue this week as well. And then the
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  Speaker 1: running backs who are on injured reserve. Tank Bigsby, Will Shipley,
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  Speaker 1: Damian Pierce, Carson Steele. And I mean, that is just
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  Speaker 1: one of those seasons that you just can't make sense of.
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  Speaker 1: That position has just been injury riddled. And you could
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  Speaker 1: see as many as seven players through the first eight
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  Speaker 1: weeks of the.
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  Speaker 2: Season get backfield, get carries out of the backfield.
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  Speaker 1: It's just unheard of. And I just wanted to kind
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  Speaker 1: of summarize the running back situation right now as the
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  Speaker 1: week begins. So let's get to the practice report because
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday's practice was a walkthrough, a closed walkthrough, and the
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  Speaker 1: report is an estimation. So not practicing for the Eagles,
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  Speaker 1: had they practiced, would be running back Saquon Barkley, hamstring back,
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  Speaker 1: linebacker Jahad Campbell, hamstring quad, wide receiver Britton Covey, knee,
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  Speaker 1: cornerback Jonathan Jones, hamstring back. Wide receiver, Devontae Smith, hamstring.
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  Speaker 1: Wide receiver, Dontavian Wicks, ankle.
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  Speaker 2: Limited.
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  Speaker 1: Defensive back, Michael Carter, abdomen. Outside linebacker, Jonathan Grenard, ankle.
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  Speaker 1: Outside linebacker, J. Lux Hunt, knee, ankle. Linebacker, Smile Mondin, knee.
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  Speaker 1: Defensive tackle, Mauro Jomo, neck. Outside linebacker, Nolan Smith, concussion.
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  Speaker 1: Good news there that Nolan Smith would have worked. had
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  Speaker 1: the Eagles practiced, and he's returning from the concussion, as
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned, and that's a very encouraging sign there. Full
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  Speaker 1: participants would have been linebacker Zach Vaughn, shoulder, cornerback Ja'Corian Bennett, knee,
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  Speaker 1: guard Landon Dickerson, pectoral, outside linebacker Arnold Abacate, shoulder, tight
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  Speaker 1: end Dallas Goddard, knee, center Drew Kendall, knee, guard Tyler Steen, shoulder.
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  Speaker 2: Great news there with regard.
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  Speaker 1: To especially Landon Dickerson, shoulder, Dallas Goddard who returned from
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  Speaker 1: that game, Drew Kendall who returned for that game, that
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  Speaker 1: they left that game healthy and that is certainly encouraging
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  Speaker 1: because the Eagles needless to say need all of the
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  Speaker 1: help that they can get as they are considerably undermanned
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  Speaker 1: as it is to be able to go into Washington
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  Speaker 1: and put their best foot forward. So I'll be obviously
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  Speaker 1: keeping an eye on Saquon Barkley this week along with
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  Speaker 1: You know, Jihad Campbell, who now has the hamstring and quad.
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  Speaker 1: Wicks and Smith, of course, I'll be keeping an eye on.
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  Speaker 1: Smith with the hamstring, I don't know. That's a tricky situation.
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  Speaker 1: I've talked a lot this season about how fickle.
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  Speaker 2: Those injuries are.
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  Speaker 1: You might need to shut him down for another game,
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  Speaker 1: maybe another week after that, just to ensure that it's
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  Speaker 1: fully healed and recovered, because otherwise it's going to continue
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  Speaker 1: to be an ongoing issue. This is something that he
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  Speaker 1: first sustained August 4th in training camp, and it's certainly
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  Speaker 1: not going to get any better by playing. I know
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  Speaker 1: Devontae has tried to play through it at certain points,
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  Speaker 1: but you risk setback, and that's really what's happening right now.
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  Speaker 1: Wicks with the ankle, we'll have to wait and see there.
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  Speaker 1: But We also heard from Jalen Carter today. And Jalen
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  Speaker 1: Carter mentioned that he's probably not going to be 100%
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  Speaker 1: this year. But he mentioned that the wrist is getting,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the cast on his wrist is getting smaller.
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  Speaker 1: And he said he's feeling better. It's probably not going
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  Speaker 1: to be 100% this season, but he's feeling better. He's
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  Speaker 1: getting better. And the cast is getting smaller. He said,
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  Speaker 1: I think last week was my last week. But to
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  Speaker 1: be safe, I might just do a soft cast, leave
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  Speaker 1: it at that, and then maybe next week after.
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  Speaker 2: No cast.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, that's probably contributing to the disappointing start to
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  Speaker 1: the season for him. He obviously keeps his expectations very high.
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  Speaker 1: No one's going to keep them higher than the player themselves.
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  Speaker 1: So I understand that while there's a lot of frustration
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  Speaker 1: on the outside, just understand that all of these players
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of pride. And they don't want to
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  Speaker 1: put something on tape that's not their best. And that's
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  Speaker 1: something that they're, you know, you have to wear that.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to have to wear what happened on Monday
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  Speaker 1: night this week.
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  Speaker 2: And they.
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  Speaker 1: Have taken accountability for it. Jalen Carter spoke today, as
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned. And he said, when asked about the defense
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  Speaker 1: being considered a strength going into the season, why do
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  Speaker 1: you think it hasn't in recent weeks performed to the
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  Speaker 1: levels that many expected? And he said, you know, people's
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  Speaker 1: standards are bigger than what ours are coming through the season.
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  Speaker 2: We all know it's a fresh new season. It's a
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  Speaker 2: fresh restart.
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  Speaker 1: No matter what we did last year, the last three years,
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  Speaker 1: four years, don't matter. It's a whole new season. It's
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  Speaker 1: a whole new group, new faces, new chemistry in the
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  Speaker 1: locker room. So obviously we have to, you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: a restart for us. We don't look at it like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: we got, obviously we know we got good players, but
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  Speaker 1: we don't go out there saying just because we got
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  Speaker 1: good players, we're going to do this on the field.
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  Speaker 1: It's not showing right now. So obviously we just got
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  Speaker 1: to work together. One of our traits is, together detail toughness.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what we're going to be working on this
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  Speaker 2: week and.
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  Speaker 1: At the end there he mentioned how would you when
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  Speaker 1: asked about how would you assess your play this last
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  Speaker 1: year and the year before and i give the same
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  Speaker 1: answer so trash not to my expectations and i guess
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  Speaker 1: not to what the fans.
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  Speaker 2: Want and it really don't matter what they want so.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's sometimes, you know, when you have your
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  Speaker 1: own self expectations, nothing is more, nothing weighs heavier than
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  Speaker 1: your own expectations. So while the fans expectations are extremely
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  Speaker 1: high for Jalen Carter and rightfully so you've seen him
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  Speaker 1: at his best, he holds himself to a higher standard. And, Look,
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  Speaker 1: I thought he had some pointed responses there. It was
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  Speaker 1: good to hear from him after the game. Reek Wolin
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  Speaker 1: also spoke and had some good things to say as well.
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  Speaker 1: And we also heard from defensive coordinator Vic Fangio. And
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  Speaker 1: I thought Vic was short and he was very concise
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  Speaker 1: with his messaging there. But I don't know that I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Know what I expected.
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  Speaker 1: I thought maybe you would get a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: of a fiery Vic Fangio coming off that game, and
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  Speaker 1: we didn't necessarily get that. He was to the point,
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  Speaker 1: but he mentioned that Jalen Carter, with regard to how
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  Speaker 1: do you get him more consistent, he said he has
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  Speaker 1: to have the mindset to be more consistent. And Vic
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  Speaker 1: was accountable. He said he didn't do a good job
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  Speaker 1: coaching on Monday night. And with Jalen Carter, the quote was,
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  Speaker 1: he just needs to get the mindset to be consistent.
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  Speaker 1: And Vic, with his accountability piece, mentioned that I did
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  Speaker 1: not do a good job getting them ready in terms
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  Speaker 1: of stopping the run. he's not going to make any excuses.
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  Speaker 1: He's not going to pull any punches. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you're not going to get him, you know, flipping tables
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  Speaker 1: over or anything, pounding on the podium or anything like that.
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  Speaker 1: But you can, you can tell that he wasn't, he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't pleased with that. And he has a certain standard
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  Speaker 1: that's expected to be met. And that also starts with him.
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  Speaker 1: He mentioned that he didn't do a good job coaching
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  Speaker 1: that game. The players out on the field need to
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  Speaker 1: do a better job executing it. That's me saying that. And,
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  Speaker 1: I just think that when you consider all of that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what version of this Eagles
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  Speaker 1: defense you're realistically going to get on Sunday against the Commanders,
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  Speaker 1: but I have to think that it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a point of pride. And if you're looking at this season,
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  Speaker 1: one week this year, you can say that that was
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  Speaker 1: really bad and probably the worst that Vic Fangio has
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  Speaker 1: coached and probably the worst that a Vic Fangio defense
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  Speaker 1: has played. That being said, from an accountability, from a
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  Speaker 1: pride standpoint and everything else, it's hard for me to
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  Speaker 1: imagine that they're not going to come out raring to
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  Speaker 1: go and trying to sort of, uh, reestablish themselves there
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  Speaker 1: and make things happen defensively because they do have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of talent on that group.
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  Speaker 2: They need to be more consistent.
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  Speaker 1: I don't necessarily, um, I'm not leaning into the fact
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  Speaker 1: that they have played a lot of snaps this year.
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  Speaker 1: I don't necessarily buy that, and they never have said that,
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  Speaker 1: to be clear. But it's easy to draw a correlation
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  Speaker 1: because they have been on the field for an extraordinarily.
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  Speaker 2: High number of snaps, I guess, this year.
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  Speaker 1: And the offense did their part, largely, on Monday night,
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  Speaker 1: and the defense didn't do theirs. They didn't play well.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't look fundamentally sound. They... looked a little disjointed
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  Speaker 1: on the back end. And, you know, you need more
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  Speaker 1: from your pass rush. There's just a lot of things
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  Speaker 1: that we've been talking about at different points of the
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  Speaker 1: season that all sort of culminated into the defensive collapse
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  Speaker 1: that you saw on Monday night. So not exactly the
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  Speaker 1: best showing from that group. It happened in prime time.
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  Speaker 1: That was not their best effort. So again, I think
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  Speaker 1: when having another opportunity to play in prime time, you're
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  Speaker 1: going to see them play a little bit better. Now
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  Speaker 1: the commander's offense is not as good as the Dallas offense.
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  Speaker 2: Their offensive line is not as good as Dallas's.
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  Speaker 1: So all of those things factor into my belief that
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  Speaker 1: you're going to see a better version of the Eagles
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  Speaker 1: defense on Sunday night. So we touched on a lot
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  Speaker 1: of different topics. We're just getting started. The week is
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  Speaker 1: just unfolding right now.
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  Speaker 2: And so.
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  Speaker 1: There's going to be plenty more on the DeCecco Daily Podcast,
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  Speaker 1: plenty more on the Inside the Birds platform this week
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  Speaker 1: as we get you ready for Week 8, Eagles Commanders.
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  Speaker 3: with plenty of free parking. You'll be in and out fast.
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  Speaker 3: No hassle, no waiting. And they don't just care about convenience.
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  Speaker 3: Camden Apothecary is all about the guest experience. Their staff
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  Speaker 3: makes sure you feel taken care of every time you
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  Speaker 3: walk in. Plus, they carry only the best quality cannabis
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  Speaker 3: at the fairest price. So whether you're stocking up for
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  Speaker 3: the tailgate, the watch party, or celebrating a big win,
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  Speaker 3: you know you're getting the good stuff without overpaying. They
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  Speaker 3: even show love to the community with specials for fans, students,
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  Speaker 3: service members, and healthcare pros. Camden Apothecary, top quality cannabis,
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  Speaker 3: great prices, and an experience made for Philly fans 21
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  Speaker 3: and up.
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  Speaker 1: And it's going to be here before you know it.
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  Speaker 1: But with that, that's going to do it for this
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  Speaker 1: episode of the Checo Daily. I'm Andrew DiCecco, and I'll
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  Speaker 1: catch you all on the next one.