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Life and Death of Pets with Dr. Greer of Checkout Vet · Ask The Experts

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Speaker 1: That's check out vet dot com. An amazingly convenient clinic
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Speaker 1: that's great for you, great for your pets, and of
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Speaker 1: course easy to get to. Right at twenty seven to
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Speaker 1: ten Prairie Lakes Drive in sun Prairie Rite off the interstate,
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Speaker 1: right off the highway near the inner State There, don't
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Speaker 1: forget checkout Veterinary that first visit. It is free. That
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Speaker 1: exam is free. You can learn all about it online
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Speaker 1: the website checkout vets dot com. That's checkout vet dot com.
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Speaker 1: Join this morning by doctor Marty Greer, recognized as Veterinarian
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Speaker 1: of the Year from the Westminster Kennel Club.
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Speaker 2: Doctor Greer, great to have you back in studio.
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Speaker 3: Thanks, it's great to be here.
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Speaker 1: You are a busy, busy doctor, you get to I
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Speaker 1: know you love what you do, and one of the
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Speaker 1: things you love doing is getting more knowledge and sharing
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Speaker 1: knowledge as well. So I know you've been out talking
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Speaker 1: with people and attending some conferences, so it's.
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Speaker 2: Great to have you back in studio.
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Speaker 1: This week, we're going to talk about life in the
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Speaker 1: Facts of Life, the truth for everybody. Birth, you know,
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Speaker 1: and then ultimately death is part of life. We're going
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Speaker 1: to talk about how that is all those aspects are
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Speaker 1: handled in pet healthcare. But real quick before we get
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Speaker 1: started on this week's conversation, I know you've got a
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Speaker 1: big event coming up Sunday, May fourth, and at the clinic,
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Speaker 1: and for folks that haven't had a chance to check
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Speaker 1: it out, you're opening the doors and saying come on in.
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Speaker 3: Let's let's meet exactly from three to five on Sunday afternoon,
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Speaker 3: May the fourth, Like May the fourth be with you,
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Speaker 3: you are welcome to come over and visit us. We're
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Speaker 3: going to have a little open house. We're going to
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Speaker 3: do this again, but this is going to be our
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Speaker 3: first in a very long time.
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Speaker 2: We started doing this.
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Speaker 3: Before COVID, and then well there was COVID, so we
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Speaker 3: didn't do it for a while. So we'll have an
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Speaker 3: opportunity for you to come in and if you want
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Speaker 3: to bring your pet, great, but we're not doing any
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Speaker 3: exams or any vaccines or anything during that three to
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Speaker 3: five o'clock two hour period, so you could just come
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Speaker 3: in see the facility, meet the staff, meet the doctor,
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Speaker 3: have a chance to talk to me, you know, just
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Speaker 3: come in and say hi and look around and kind
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Speaker 3: of get an idea of what it feels like to
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Speaker 3: come to this because it's a whole different experience than
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Speaker 3: what you've ever had before for a vet clinic.
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Speaker 1: It's a really great design and it's a really great
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Speaker 1: opportunity as well. Again, that's going to be coming up
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Speaker 1: May fourth, Sunday, May fourth, from three until five. Of course,
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Speaker 1: you get all the details so well online at checkout
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Speaker 1: vet dot com.
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Speaker 2: That's checkout vet dot com. Speaking of the uniqueness of.
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Speaker 1: The clinic, I know the website does a really good
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Speaker 1: job explaining how it works, but nothing beats just kind
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Speaker 1: of stopping and I know, I know folks would love
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Speaker 1: to love to see you as well.
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Speaker 3: You got to see it, you got to feel it.
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Speaker 3: I mean, drive in and let your dog walk around.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Cats, you know, when we did our reindeer event, we
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Speaker 3: actually had somebody that bought some cats. I was kind
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Speaker 3: of surprised by that. If your cat wants to go
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Speaker 3: for a ride, that's fine, but you know, cats don't
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Speaker 3: like the car quite the same as dogs.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little bit.
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Speaker 1: I had one cat that loved riding and then every
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Speaker 1: other cat I've ever owned, it's a it's.
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Speaker 2: A struggle for the time. Yeah, really good perspective. Don't
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Speaker 2: forget us.
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Speaker 1: I mentioned the website checkout vet dot com. They're telephone
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Speaker 1: number six oh eight three one eight sixty seven hundred.
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Speaker 1: That's six eight three one eight sixty seven hundred. Great
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Speaker 1: day to start that relationship at checkout veterinary and doctor.
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Speaker 2: I know.
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Speaker 1: One of the great things that you get to do
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Speaker 1: is get to see new new pets come into this world.
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Speaker 2: And uh, that's such a that's such a really really.
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Speaker 1: Got to be a fantastic experience, and you know, all
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Speaker 1: the all the happiness and hope of that for for
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Speaker 1: little puppies and little kiddies. What's kind of that that
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Speaker 1: first we kind of work through life stage is that
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Speaker 1: first VET appointment, that first visit.
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Speaker 2: It's a really really important one, isn't it.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And we can make or break the experience
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Speaker 3: at that first visit. So we do a lot in
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Speaker 3: our practice to offer the kittens and the puppies, not
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Speaker 3: just the puppies, but the kittens too, an opportunity to
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Speaker 3: feel comfortable in the environment with them, come out of
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Speaker 3: their carrier, with them, wander around the room. If we
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Speaker 3: have them in the garage, they can wander the whole space.
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Speaker 3: We just keep the doors down so that they don't
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Speaker 3: wander away, and we offer chicken baby food or squeeze
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Speaker 3: cheese or marshmallow cream or you know, whatever their preferences.
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Speaker 3: If you know that they like something that we're not
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Speaker 3: going to have bring it along because we want them
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Speaker 3: to have a really fun time. And we try to
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Speaker 3: do the vaccines, the microchip, the exam, so I'm not
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Speaker 3: sure exactly what we're to use, but so carefully that
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Speaker 3: we don't really startle them or let them know that
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Speaker 3: we wanted to think they're at a restaurant the whole time. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: like you just came to a restaurant. Oh, we do
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Speaker 3: happen to get vaccines, but you might not notice because
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Speaker 3: you're busy eating chicken baby food or peanut butter, and
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Speaker 3: you don't really notice that we just vaccinated.
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Speaker 2: A stealth like manner and maybe the way Ninja doctor. Yes,
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Speaker 2: And that's a.
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Speaker 1: Real skill and creating that environment, and I know with
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Speaker 1: the clinic itself, that was an important part of the design.
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Speaker 1: I mean, for folks that don't know, check out. Veterinarting
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Speaker 1: was designed from the ground up. This is not a repurpose.
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Speaker 1: This was not previously a Culver's This is you sat
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Speaker 1: down and worked with an architect and worked really hard
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Speaker 1: to put this together.
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Speaker 3: To make that all, we worked for years with a
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Speaker 3: couple of architects because the architect I was originally using
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Speaker 3: move to Australia, so we jumped ship and said, well,
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Speaker 3: we'll use the local guy who I do at my
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Speaker 3: first building with back in eighty eight. So I've worked
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Speaker 3: with this architect for many many years.
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Speaker 2: Oh that is great.
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Speaker 1: And as we are working many many years, I know,
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Speaker 1: getting the opportunity to see pets grow and see them
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Speaker 1: kind of you know, find their perfect family and for
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Speaker 1: perfect life. So obviously the initial employment, as you point out,
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Speaker 1: is a super important one, establishing the comfort that the
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Speaker 1: pet knows and as you point out, you want them
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Speaker 1: to feel like they're at that a fine restaurant getting
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Speaker 1: all their favorite foods, and to tell them, yes, exactly
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Speaker 1: keep the secret. And then and then like the first
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Speaker 1: few years too, and I know you've talked about this before,
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Speaker 1: and especially with cats, like people are pretty good the
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Speaker 1: first few years, and then things kind of drop off,
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Speaker 1: don't they.
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Speaker 2: It shouldn't be that way.
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Speaker 3: No cats should come in once a year at least
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Speaker 3: sometimes when they become seniors, they need to come twice
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Speaker 3: a year so that we can keep them up to
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Speaker 3: date on all the care that they need. That maybe
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Speaker 3: dental cleaning, set, may be doing routine blood work. And
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Speaker 3: we see three very common diseases in older cats. We
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Speaker 3: see older cats with hyperthyridism so rid works too much,
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Speaker 3: they lose weight. We see cats with kidney disease. And
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Speaker 3: a cat with kidney disease diagnosed and treated correctly may
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Speaker 3: live three years or more with it, but if you
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Speaker 3: ignore it, it's going to advance more quickly. And then
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Speaker 3: of course diabetes not as common, and cancer is always
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Speaker 3: listed on the list, but we don't see nearly as
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Speaker 3: much cancer as we do by red disease and kidney failure.
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Speaker 1: So with those kind of like that that middle area
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Speaker 1: through that people I know, you know, whant to think of,
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Speaker 1: like dogs, for example, is you know, I think people
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Speaker 1: are really should be and I think most people I've
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Speaker 1: ever met are very diligent about getting their dog in
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Speaker 1: for their annual exam and getting those you know, getting
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Speaker 1: their heartworm preventative and flee and tick again and and
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Speaker 1: and when those go on, it's also a great opportunity
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Speaker 1: I know, for for you as a vet, to to
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Speaker 1: explore maybe other things. Maybe sometimes obviously people say, oh,
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Speaker 1: well maybe here she's been eating a little or drinking
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Speaker 1: a little bit more or not eating as much, or
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Speaker 1: oh I noticed I was. I was rubbing his belly
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Speaker 1: the other day and there's there's like a little lump there.
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Speaker 1: Those having that regular annual physical in that checkup, it's
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Speaker 1: a great place and great time that those things come
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Speaker 1: out in conversation, don't they.
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Speaker 3: Right, We can address lumps when they are still small
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Speaker 3: enough to be removed, and a lot of people say, well,
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Speaker 3: it's just a lump. I'm going to watch it. Well,
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Speaker 3: I can tell you what it's going to do. When
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Speaker 3: you watch it, it's going to get bigger, and sometimes
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Speaker 3: it gets big enough to cause some really serious health problems.
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Speaker 3: So take them off when they're small, do your dental
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Speaker 3: care when the pets are still healthy, when they still
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Speaker 3: can keep all their teeth, when they still have good
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Speaker 3: heart function, good kidney function, because advanced dental disease not
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Speaker 3: only causes a loss of teeth, but it causes the
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Speaker 3: loss of other health as well. Just for us as
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Speaker 3: the same you know your kidneys, your heart, they're not
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Speaker 3: going to be benefited by the bacterial shower that happens
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Speaker 3: every time you chew. If there's an early sign of
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Speaker 3: kidney disease, we can address that. If there's early liver disease,
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Speaker 3: all those things can be addressed much more effectively if
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Speaker 3: we can catch it early. Sometimes it's just managing their weight,
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Speaker 3: or it's managing their arthritis. And a lot of people
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Speaker 3: don't identify the arthritis that their pets have, especially cats,
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Speaker 3: but dogs too. They're like, well, he doesn't cry, so
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Speaker 3: I don't think he's in any pain. Oh no, no, no, no,
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Speaker 3: they don't cry unless they've slipped a disc or they've
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Speaker 3: had some really serious trauma. Minor things that you may
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Speaker 3: think are minor but are advancing. Arthritis can just lead
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Speaker 3: a very gradual change in your pet's activity. They may
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Speaker 3: just not get up and run around with the other
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Speaker 3: dogs like they used to, or the cat may not
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Speaker 3: go up the stairs anymore, and you're like, oh, he's
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Speaker 3: just old. No, age is not a disease.
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Speaker 2: And evolutionarily that was. That's for reasons.
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Speaker 1: Obviously, if you're an injured cat or an injured dog,
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Speaker 1: you know, historically there wasn't a person there to take
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Speaker 1: him into the clinic. That was it was you're going
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Speaker 1: to become part of that, Yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. So we have a lot of options that we
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Speaker 3: can give clients for daily pain medication. We have injectables
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Speaker 3: that are given once a month that are monoclonal a
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Speaker 3: anibody that controls ourthritis pain. There's some really tremendous breakthroughs
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Speaker 3: that have happened. Are allergy medications. Oh my gosh, we've
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Speaker 3: come so far with those. There's so many things we
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Speaker 3: can do now. So if you haven't really been engaged
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Speaker 3: in your pets care, this is an opportunity to jump
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Speaker 3: in and say, Okay, what can we do to improve
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Speaker 3: his or her quality of life?
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Speaker 1: What are some of the things that people start as
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Speaker 1: we talked this morning with doctor Marty Greer of check
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Speaker 1: Out Veterinary, what are some of the things that do
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Speaker 1: get people to start bringing their pets in more routinely,
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Speaker 1: obviously as the slower things. Confusion?
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Speaker 2: What are some of the things that you see often
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Speaker 2: that people are saying starting to bring their pets in
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Speaker 2: a little bit more frequently.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Confusion is really interesting because dogs do have and
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Speaker 3: now we're starting to identify in cats as well, some dementia.
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Speaker 3: It's not quite the same as Alzheimer's, but it certainly
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Speaker 3: is a concern. A lot of times people don't even
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Speaker 3: think to mention anything. They come in for their annual
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Speaker 3: visit and they're like, oh, by the way, and you
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Speaker 3: realize that there's something really significant that's happening, and that
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Speaker 3: was an opportunity. So if we don't see your cat
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Speaker 3: from the time they are a year old until they're seventeen,
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Speaker 3: we've missed sixteen opportunities to improve your cat's quality of life,
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Speaker 3: length of life, health, all those things. Dogs we tend
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Speaker 3: to see once a year because they need their heart tests,
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Speaker 3: they need their vaccines, so people are a little more diligent.
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Speaker 3: But their cat doesn't go outside, so their perception is
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Speaker 3: that they don't need vaccines, and their perception is they
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Speaker 3: don't need veterinary careen. That's a huge mistake on the
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Speaker 3: part of the owners, not because they mean to, but
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Speaker 3: they just don't really understand what we can offer the
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Speaker 3: old what's.
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Speaker 1: The screak, squeaky wheel gets the grease kind of thing.
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Speaker 1: Got to teach the cats to speak up.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't.
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Speaker 1: No, no pet owners, Yeah, it's such an important thing.
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Speaker 1: As we talked this morning with doctor Marty Greer of
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Speaker 1: Checkout Veterinary. The website check out vet dot com. That's
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Speaker 1: all one word, checkout vet dot com.
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Speaker 2: Wepe.
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Speaker 1: You have a chance to check it out. You can
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Speaker 1: schedule an appointment online. You can also learn more about
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Speaker 1: how Checkout Veterinary works, and of course about the clinic
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Speaker 1: of course, open nine am until five pm Monday through
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Speaker 1: Wednesday and Friday through Sunday. Of course they've got you
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Speaker 1: covered on Thursday. Saying what about thursdays. Oh, they've got
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Speaker 1: the check in Vet and soon to be checkout Vet
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Speaker 1: as well, open seven days week, but they're open on
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Speaker 1: weekends and seven days a week between the two clinks.
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Speaker 1: And with that too, is just real quick. I was
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Speaker 1: going to ask you, and I think we mentioned the
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Speaker 1: other week you do have more doctors coming on board
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Speaker 1: and you're about to go seven days a week at
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Speaker 1: checkout Bett as well too.
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Speaker 3: We have doctor Ingelbert who worked for us before in
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Speaker 3: Lamira and she's back. We're very happy to have her back.
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Speaker 3: She's a great surgeon, does a super job with the
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Speaker 3: client education. We have doctor Denny who's a newer graduate
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Speaker 3: she's been with us since January. Doctor Dave has been
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Speaker 3: in the field for forty years and so we're pleased
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Speaker 3: to have him. And doctor Johnson has moved over to
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Speaker 3: Marshall with doctor Mayaki, and of course doctor Maybe and
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Speaker 3: doctor Larson are still at check out and check in,
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Speaker 3: but doctor Johnson's over at Marshall, so don't forget. We
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Speaker 3: have a location in Marshall Monday through Friday as well.
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Speaker 1: Great clinic there and that was a great story and
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Speaker 1: if folks want to listen, I know there's a podcast
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Speaker 1: we've got up talking about that at WIBA dot com.
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Speaker 1: That's a great, great thing to keep those clinics in
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Speaker 1: the communities as well. We're going to see you work
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Speaker 1: conversation with doctor Reyer. We'll get to the conversation of
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Speaker 1: as pets get older, just like people, there is eventually
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Speaker 1: a time where life passes, and we'll talk a little
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Speaker 1: bit about as the as. I think the term they
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Speaker 1: use now is the rainbow bridge, planning, how that, how
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Speaker 1: that happens, and really getting I also want to kind
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Speaker 1: of get it from a vet's perspective as well, what
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Speaker 1: that what that is like. We'll talk with doctor Greer
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Speaker 1: about that and so much more than meantime you've been
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Speaker 1: to the website yet, head on over to check out
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Speaker 1: vet dot com. That's checkout vet dot com. More of
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Speaker 1: our conversation with doctor Marty Greer next as ask the
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Speaker 1: experts with Checkout Veterinary continues right here.
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Speaker 2: Thirteen ten wiv.
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Speaker 1: A eight fifty five asked the experts with check Out
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Speaker 1: Veterinary and clinic and studio with doctor.
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Speaker 2: Marty Greer of Checkout Veterinary. Come to the clinic.
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Speaker 1: We should do the show from the I'll come, we
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Speaker 1: should come in and just do the show.
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Speaker 2: One of these I would love to.
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Speaker 1: Let's I'm going to jot that down because that would
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Speaker 1: be so much fun to do do a show right
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Speaker 1: from the right from the clinic and talk about the
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Speaker 1: clinic too, very convenient. Twenty seven to ten Prairie Lakes
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Speaker 1: Drive in sun Prairie. I'll have a great opportunity also
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Speaker 1: have if you haven't had a chance yet to check
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Speaker 1: out Checkout Veterinary.
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Speaker 2: They've got a great event coming up. Meet the Vet
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Speaker 2: event May.
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Speaker 1: The four That Sunday, May the fourth, from three until
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Speaker 1: five at the clinic right in sun Prairie. So great
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Speaker 1: opportunity there for you and if you want to bring
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Speaker 1: your pet along, show them around, let them see the
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Speaker 1: see the see the place. A great, great day to
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Speaker 1: do that again. You can start a relationship now at
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Speaker 1: check out vet, I gotta pick up pone game to
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Speaker 1: call six O eight three one eight sixty seven hundred.
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Speaker 1: That's six eight three one eight sixty seven hundred and doctor.
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Speaker 1: It's inevitable part of life as as we age, we
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Speaker 1: get closer and closer to death. And pets we you know,
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Speaker 1: we love them. They are members of our family. And
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Speaker 1: there's a decision that often has to be made about
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Speaker 1: when do when When is it, you know, we don't
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Speaker 1: want the pet and pain we're reaching that that stage
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Speaker 1: of life. It's a hard decision, but if done right,
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Speaker 1: it can really make make everything better for the pet.
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Speaker 1: And and I sometimes think we forget that is you
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Speaker 1: know really about that is is taking the time to care.
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Speaker 1: I've had I've had a number of pets that we
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Speaker 1: you know that that I've had had to be put down, to.
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Speaker 2: Put down, put to sleep.
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Speaker 1: Is there a I almost feel like put down is like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: like an art word.
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Speaker 3: It is. And if you stay put to sleep sometimes
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Speaker 3: that confuses children. So we try to use the word
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Speaker 3: euthanasia just because it's really clear. Put to sleep, maybe
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Speaker 3: inn anesthesia. You know, there's some things that can be
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Speaker 3: confusing in the vernacular, so we want to be really clear.
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Speaker 3: So Yes, and Laura and I Laura Reeves and I
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Speaker 3: on the Marty and Laura Show did an entire segment
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Speaker 3: on this, So if anybody's looking, that's a good place
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Speaker 3: to go for another podcast. Because we spent a little
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Speaker 3: bit of time with a grief counselor that on that
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Speaker 3: program as well. We try really hard at our practice
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Speaker 3: to start introducing that to people when it becomes clear
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Speaker 3: that that's the trajectory that their pet is on, so
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Speaker 3: that you have the support of your veterinary team to
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Speaker 3: help you make those decisions. A lot of people feel
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Speaker 3: like they're quote unquote playing God, or they may just
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Speaker 3: want to come home and find that their pet fell
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Speaker 3: asleep one day and didn't ever wake up. For me,
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Speaker 3: that's not my preference. I would like to be there
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Speaker 3: for my pet and not just find them, because I
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Speaker 3: won't know how it was for them at the end.
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Speaker 3: We do have a book called Promises to My Pet.
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Speaker 3: It's written by a grief counselor. It's a very good
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Speaker 3: book to help you through the process. We've also got
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Speaker 3: some books Your Pet has Cancer, so it can walk
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Speaker 3: you through some of those things. There's some really good
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Speaker 3: resources out there. There's children's books as well. Mister Rogers
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Speaker 3: has one One is a Tenth Good Thing, The Tenth
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Speaker 3: Good Thing about Barney. There's some good books out there,
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Speaker 3: so use those resources. Grief counselors can be very helpful
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Speaker 3: if you're in a position that you're really struggling emotionally,
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Speaker 3: so don't hesitate to reach out to people that can
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Speaker 3: give you those help that help.
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Speaker 1: It's interesting we talk about I think sometimes we externally
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Speaker 1: obviously if it's our pet, we think, you know, we
15:40
Speaker 1: know their importance, but sometimes we forget, like you have
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Speaker 1: friends or co workers that lose a pet as.
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Speaker 2: Well, and being supportive of it.
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Speaker 1: That's that's a hard I still remember one of my
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Speaker 1: pets that I lost, and you walk that first aid,
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Speaker 1: like walk in the house and like you're expecting it's like,
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Speaker 1: it's very very difficult.
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Speaker 2: What is it for? Doc?
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Speaker 1: And I know as doctors it's it can be very
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Speaker 1: hard as well as of course you've spent years and
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Speaker 1: years oftentimes with these pets seeing them regularly, you know
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Speaker 1: the family. It's not easy on doctors either, is.
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Speaker 3: No, it's not. Last Saturday, I euthanized a seventeen year
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Speaker 3: old dog that I was the only veterinarian she ever saw,
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Speaker 3: and I saw her at least twice a year for
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Speaker 3: her seventeen years. And the client lived in Milwaukee and
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Speaker 3: would drive to Lamira. So we had a long investment
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Speaker 3: emotionally together with this pet. So I think it's important
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Speaker 3: that you realize that the veterinary team is there to
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Speaker 3: help you. That the veterinary team may also feel a
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Speaker 3: loss because you've worked really hard, and a lot of
16:38
Speaker 3: times the people that have the greatest loss of the
16:39
Speaker 3: ones that have invested a lot of time and effort
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Speaker 3: in keeping that pet going for as long as possible.
16:44
Speaker 3: And then it does completely change your routine because you've
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Speaker 3: structured your whole life around getting up in the night
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Speaker 3: and giving medication four times a day and all the
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Speaker 3: things that may go with it. So it can be
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Speaker 3: a really difficult challenge. So please reach out to people
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Speaker 3: if you need help, and if you are helping somebody
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Speaker 3: through this. The words to never say are it's just
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Speaker 3: a cat. Yeah, no, no, that it's pretty insensitive. You
17:05
Speaker 3: can get another one. No, those aren't the things to say.
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Speaker 3: You know, you need to say, I understand how you feel,
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Speaker 3: let me you know, let me be there for you.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes you just have to quietly listen to them. But
17:16
Speaker 3: be supportive of friends that have lost. And it might
17:18
Speaker 3: be a jurabile, but it's still an emotional attachment, So
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Speaker 3: don't disregard the importance of that.
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Speaker 1: And one final thing I was going to ask too,
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Speaker 1: is with with the clinic. They and we were talking
17:29
Speaker 1: earlier about the you know, the fun and like and
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Speaker 1: like making it a lower stress I've got a guess
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Speaker 1: for pets that that have been to the clinic and
17:37
Speaker 1: have been there for years, when it comes to that point,
17:39
Speaker 1: you certainly don't want their you know, their their final
17:42
Speaker 1: moments being stressful and those type of things. It's really
17:45
Speaker 1: conducive to Again, it's it's there's there's nothing great about
17:49
Speaker 1: what's going on, but making it as comfortable and as
17:52
Speaker 1: as as overall I don't say overall positive, but overall
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Speaker 1: an experience, you know, not a sad experience. Having that
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Speaker 1: comfort level has got to be very important as well.
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Speaker 3: Right, And being able to do it in the drive through. Oftentimes,
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Speaker 3: the bigger dogs that have mobility issues, we don't have
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Speaker 3: to get them out of the car and jostle them
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Speaker 3: around one more time. They can have the euthanasia done
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Speaker 3: right where they are, so I think that's an important thing.
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Speaker 3: There are some house call services that do this as well.
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Speaker 3: We don't provide that, but there are house called services.
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Speaker 3: So there's a lot of things we can do to
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Speaker 3: ease this. We can sedate them. There's many options that
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Speaker 3: you have, and this needs to be just like anything else,
18:27
Speaker 3: needs to be your experience, so that you tell us
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Speaker 3: how you need it to go, so that we can
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Speaker 3: make it as comfortable as possible. The biggest thank you
18:34
Speaker 3: is we ever get from clients are for euthanasias, not
18:37
Speaker 3: for great surgeries and great life saving things that we do,
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Speaker 3: but for letting their pet and quietly leave this world comfortably.
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