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#165 Living Vertically (1 - Aligning with God's Perspective) · The OneCry Podcast

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  Look up, as you're living here, you're living horizontally, you're living on
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  this planet, you can't just detach, but live from a vertical perspective.
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  Welcome to the One Cry Podcast, a nationwide call for spiritual awakening.
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  The goal, accelerating the movement of God through sharing revival truth, stories, and reports.
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  Welcome to the OneCry podcast. We are so glad that you're joining us today.
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  And you may be in a car or in your home or walking down the road.
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  I don't know what it is, but we're just glad that you chose to listen to OneCry.
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  And we pray that, by the way, you'll make that a regular listen on your weekly routine.
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  And I'm Bill Eliff. and joining me today is Dr.
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  Reverend Kyle Reno III, Esquire. Esquire.
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  Just keep adding, bro. Keep adding. I'm just, I'm putting enough of those things
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  on there that maybe one of those will stick. Yeah, that would be true.
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  Kyle, the next few weeks, we're starting on something so critical because where
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  our eyes are set, that where we look really determines our direction, doesn't it?
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  I mean, you know that as a baseball player, where you're aiming is where that ball is going.
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  And we've got a real problem about that right now, don't we? We sure do.
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  Yeah, I think about coaching and being coached, I should say,
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  is when we're learning sprint work and things like that, The coach is always
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  trying to give you a point that you're running to. Because if not, we're directionless.
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  And even if you don't feel like it, you just get off course so easily.
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  And I think so many things are vying for our eyes and through our eyes,
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  our attention, our affections.
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  And we live in a world right now that's just loud, very, very loud and screaming
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  all the time. And I know, Bill, you pastoring for decades, this war is ever-changing, right? Right. Right.
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  And if we don't learn how to rightly gain perspective, we find ourself a people that's way off course.
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  So, yeah, I'm excited about this series really about how do you live vertically.
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  And, you know, there are certain seasons, you know, as we're taping this,
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  we're in a political season.
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  You may not be listening during that same time.
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  But during political seasons, the noise and the images and the pictures are just,
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  they're crying out for our attention and trying to demand.
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  They don't have to demand, but trying to demand their attention.
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  And I think of the psalmist who said, I will set no worthless thing before my eyes.
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  I'm not going to look there. And that's a determined decision that somebody's got to make.
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  But Kyle, talk to us a little bit about where do you look?
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  I mean, where should you look? And what direction should we be focusing our attention?
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  Yeah. Yeah, I want to encourage our listener. What I want to do,
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  Lord willing, in the next couple of weeks, Bill and I, is to help us just freshly
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  align and look to God in a way that's going to empower our praying.
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  Because if you see him, you pray different.
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  It will empower our living and our leadership.
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  And here's the truth. Idols are always elevated.
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  I mean, like that's a physical reality. You look at the Old Testament,
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  like it's trying to block our view.
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  And so idolatry plays out a million different ways in our hearts and lives.
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  And and even good things, even good things can become a distraction from the
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  ultimate one and the ultimate aspect of our life. And so let me tell you where
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  I like. Here's my confession.
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  You're off the bat that where did this start? This thought started.
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  I was a bill. You've been a good tired in ministry before.
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  Like you know that there's different kinds of tired but
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  there's a good tired so a couple weeks ago i
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  was a good tired and i had monday meetings
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  we had just celebrated 50 years as a faith family in our church man it was a
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  we threw a pot hey i mean it was 50 years so yeah right i mean 50 years of god's
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  faithfulness on this corner in the lives of this people called crossgates it was fantastic.
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  And so we threw a big party, but it's called for a lot of leadership to look through that.
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  And then the next week we we stopped and we had a visionary moment for our church
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  that we said, hey, this in light of 50 years of God's faithfulness,
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  looking into the future.
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  Here's where we're going. Right. And man, it was fantastic.
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  I mean, just get the momentum of the spirits where people's bought in. And awesome.
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  I get out of my Monday morning meetings and I looked and I didn't have a lunch
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  and I was like, glory to God, I'm tired.
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  And so I got out of the office and went to the gym and was working out,
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  spent some time just being quiet with the Lord and the spirit of God as clear as I can hear him.
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  Just framed up where I've been. And he said, Kyle, it is so right for you to
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  spend the time looking back.
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  And that was what we did with the 50 years.
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  And it's in my heart, this is what I sense the Spirit saying,
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  and it is right to look forward into the future.
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  And I'm telling you, just a moment, me and Lord, and this was the subtle,
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  just don't forget to look up.
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  And and i and i went just to
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  pause in my life in leadership going yeah
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  you can get caught in the past or you can steamroll the
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  future but the only chance we have
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  as followers of christ for sure leaders in local churches and ministry is that
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  we live vertically because that's where everything flows from it flows from
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  this this pursuit of god knowing his presence and so i in this You had those moments.
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  I wrote this sermon in 30 minutes on my phone, and that God's just bringing scripture to mine.
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  And it realigned me in just a fresh way, just a fresh way.
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  So let me help you right now, wherever you are for a moment,
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  and Bill will banter back and forth.
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  If you want to live vertically, you got to start where it starts.
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  Here it is. One, remember this. our God is the creator.
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  Our God is the creator. Genesis 1, 1 says, in the beginning,
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  God created the heavens and the earth. Come on.
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  Meaning nothing you've ever seen are all the things that are still unseen or
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  all created by one who is ultimately the creator.
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  Bill, I love this thought. Nobody's ever stood at the edge of the Grand Canyon
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  and thought about how great they are.
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  Nobody, nobody, even, even the
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  unbeliever that I've had the privilege of being in the Andes mountains,
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  sit on the, on a boat on the Amazon river where at the mouth is 110 miles wide,
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  stood in the savannas of Africa,
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  bringing a little more local, been in the harbors and bay areas of San Diego, Smoky Mountains,
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  and on a walk most days as the sun's setting, looking west with my wife.
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  And all that should for us as followers of Christ is help remind us,
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  not look here horizontally, but look here vertically as I pray, as I seek His face.
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  And remember, my God made everything.
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  He made everything. We got a mantra around our house. I'm raising five kiddos,
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  and I'll often ask this question if we're on a hunting trip or if we're watching
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  the sunrise or if we're at the beach.
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  I'll just ask my kids, who made that?
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  And my, and Reno's have, have learned this. God made that.
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  God made that. And so I just want to stop for a moment and help us remember
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  that everything we've seen and all the things that are unseen was made by one
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  creator, God of the universe.
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  It starts where it starts. It starts with him.
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  I love what Psalm 19 says, the heavens declare the glory of God and the sky
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  above proclaims his handiwork.
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  It's shouting, man. Rivers are clapping.
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  Wind's coming over the mountain this morning, and it is declaring a creator, God of the universe.
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  And by the way, Jesus doesn't show up in the New Testament. He's co-equal in creation.
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  So this Christ that we worship as a crucified, risen king was there when it began.
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  Colossians 1.16, for by him all things were created in heaven Heaven and on
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  earth, visible and invisible,
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  where the thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities, all things were created
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  through him and for him, which should make us, Revelation 4, 11.
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  I want to say with all of heaven, worthy are you, our Lord and God,
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  to receive glory and honor and power.
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  So people of God listening to a podcast, I want to ask, when's the last time
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  you looked up and just worshiped this creator God?
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  And you talk about put things in perspective, like the one that holds the sun
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  and moon, this cosmos and the world that is spinning and the whole solar system
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  is underneath his sovereign, sustaining control.
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  That's our God. That's our God. The second thing, if you want to live vertically,
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  remember this, not only is our God creator, our God is in control.
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  He's in control. I love what Proverbs 19, 21 says, many are the plans in a person's
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  heart, but it is the Lord's purpose that prevails.
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  Right now, in this chaos, few things will help you be settled,
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  anchored in this crazy world than remembering this, our God is on his throne,
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  that he is in control, that man has plans. God's got a purpose.
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  Man's got plans. God has a purpose that he will fulfill in this moment,
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  in this chaos, to look up.
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  You want to live vertically, man, as you're praying, walk into the throne room
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  of grace and mercy and declare, hey, God, I know you're in control.
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  Psalm 2, it just came to my spirit as I was thinking about this principle of the kingdom of God.
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  Psalm 2, 1 through 4 says, Why do the nations rage and peoples plot in vain?
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  The kings of the earth set themselves and the rulers take counsel together against
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  the Lord and against His anointed, saying, Let us burst their bonds apart and
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  cast their cords from us.
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  Do you not feel that right now? More so than ever, I do, man.
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  It seems like the nation and the nations are raging, And what we're trying to
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  do, humanity, is we're trying to burst the bonds,
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  the things that God has put in place, the boundaries of life and design and
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  all the things that God ultimately attended.
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  And humanity is railing against God, railing against Christ and what he intended in creation.
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  And I think in this subtle part of humanity, we think we can actually win.
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  I want to remind us, our God is in control.
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  And this is what it says, verse 4. He who sits in heaven, in heavens, laughs.
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  God's not looking down from his throne going, I wonder if I'll win.
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  God's looking down going, no, no, no, no. Your plans ultimately just play into my purpose.
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  And I am going to glorify my name, advance my kingdom.
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  I'm going to win in the end. and the Lord holds them in derision.
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  To those that are listening today, maybe all of life feels out of control.
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  Bill and I have been there. Man, moments when your personal pain,
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  it's hard to see God's purpose.
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  That you're walking through a season of hardship, suffering.
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  And that's just a part of living in this broken world.
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  Well, Romans 8, 28 reminds us of how good God is in His sovereign control. role.
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  And we know that God causes everything to work together for good of those who
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  love God and are called according to His purpose for them.
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  So people of God, listening to a podcast, lift your eyes.
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  Look up as you're living here. If you're living horizontally,
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  you're living on this planet.
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  You can't just detach, but live from a vertical perspective that our God,
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  our God, the God of the Bible is the creator, and he's in control,
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  and that should give us a confidence.
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  And then the last thing, and then Bill and I are going to talk about this for
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  a moment, that I want us to think about in this moment is the God that is creator
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  and the God that is in control.
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  And if you ask me right now, which aspects of God or attributes of God are forgotten
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  and I would say are vital to living in a vertical perspective is this.
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  Our God, by the way, is holy.
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  He is holy. Exodus 15, 11 says, who is like you, O Lord, among the gods? Little g.
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  Who is like you? Who's set apart like you? Who is like you? I love this.
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  Majestic in holiness.
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  Awesome and glorious deeds doing wonders.
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  Now, I studied for us, what does holiness even mean?
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  And there's There's several ways to describe it, but simply,
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  it means set apart, separate.
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  And here's what is true about our God.
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  He is totally other. That there is none that is holy, holy, holy like him,
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  meaning he is perfect in every way, all the time.
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  Everything that he does, everything that our God says is perfect.
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  So right response, living vertically, is to come Psalm 96, verse 9,
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  worship the Lord in the splendor of His holiness.
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  Tremble before Him, all of the earth. And here's the heart-to-heart moment.
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  In the church of the Lord Jesus Christ, right now in our nation,
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  and God is at work in miraculous ways.
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  But if we want revival, a part of revival is an all of God returning to the people of God.
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  And so I just ask, listen, this is where God, when's the last time that you came into His presence?
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  And not in a way that makes you want to run away, but in a way that makes you want to run to.
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  Do you rightly tremble at His holiness?
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  That in light of being broken man, broken woman, that you came into the presence
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  of a holy God, and you remembered He is totally perfect, and I am an imperfect
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  person. And yet he beckons me come.
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  And it makes me tremble before him.
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  I remember hearing a sermon by a guy named Dave Busby decades ago now.
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  And he said something that is stuck in my spirit. He said, we often sing, show us your glory.
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  And that's been true. Hymn writers to Common Day.
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  And he goes, I wonder if we really know what we're singing.
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  Because if the glory of God is made manifest among us, we have our Isaiah 6
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  moment, where it's, Lord, please depart from me. I'm a man of unclean lips.
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  I am from a people that are radically imperfect, yet God doesn't listen to me,
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  want us to run away. He wants us to embrace His holiness.
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  So, Bill, maybe just for a moment to just talk here. As we strive to live vertically,
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  to be a people that know his presence, that changes how we interact,
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  how we respond in the horizontal.
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  Isn't it good to know that our God is creator, our God is in control, and our God is holy?
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  How that would change how we pray, how we lead, how we believe.
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  Everything, just change Absolutely everything And you know I was thinking as you were.
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  As you were talking, Richard Owen Roberts once said, I can give a one-word definition of revival.
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  And I kind of leaned in. I thought, well, what is that?
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  And he said, God, God. It's just God in his rightful place.
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  God in our vision. God obeyed. God loved.
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  God adored.
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  You know, God worshiped. So there's, but you know what? We just don't think about God.
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  We go through, you think about the average person, the average believer even,
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  and how little of their week is consumed with thoughts of God.
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  And Kyle, I mean, everything you said, I'm just sitting here,
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  my heart just rejoicing. I'm just saying, oh, my goodness, yes, yes, he is creator.
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  And when you see that, you realize he's the creator. You're the creature.
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  Yes, right. And the great problem of Romans 1 is we get that twisted around,
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  and we think we're the creator.
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  And that he's in control and that he's totally different.
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  He's so holy. But Kyle, let's talk just a minute about, for our listeners,
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  what are the steps that we take to maintain this vertical look all day long? Yeah.
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  Because I think that's the great problem. I think there's some of our listeners
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  that, as you're speaking, it's lifting their eyes.
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  Yeah, sure. Sure. And they're turning vertical. And guess what?
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  Guess what immediately happens? We repent.
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  We we get happy. We you know, everything good that we need to do happens when
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  we turn our eyes upon Jesus and look full in his wonderful face.
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  Yeah. We just don't do it much. Well, you know, if you, a lot of times you'll
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  go to a doctor and you think you've got this issue,
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  but the doctor says, no, there's a greater issue of alignment.
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  You know, like you have, you're feeling that, but the truth is your posture matters.
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  You know, you remember your mom saying sit up straight, you know,
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  like that. What she knows is that as we slump.
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  And as we are conformed and as the pressure builds,
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  and the truth is everything in this, the world, the devil and our flesh wants
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  to willingly cooperate with is ultimately to defeat us, to get us into this feeble posture.
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  I'm just going to talk candidly for a second.
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  If you live under the news stream of this nation right now continually,
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  you are being conformed by it.
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  Yeah. And it's not for your good. It is changing your posture.
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  So for me, a practical, I got to choose to position myself every day before God.
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  And i i have to it's that i gotta
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  make sure that i stand up and then
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  i i walk with him like it's for me and katie
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  i'm gonna give you a practical that we go uh
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  on a walk i would say six five
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  six out of seven days right and we get the kids that moment and that's why i
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  say walking toward the we'd walk a loop and we end up walking toward the sun
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  setting in our neighborhood you know and that's we go vertical together we talk
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  we talk on our way out about life,
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  we talk to god on our way back toward the house about our
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  week about our day and we take it vertical well what does that do for me for
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  her and i it aligns us it aligns it aligns us to the lord so does tomorrow morning
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  with the lord when i come into his presence yeah and just tell him i'm I'm grateful to be here.
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  I think, you know, I've been thinking, as you know, I'm writing this study on
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  the presence-centered life. We've talked about it here on the podcast.
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  But I'm seeing these six practices or ways of a man who's a presence-centered man.
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  And one of those is this drawing near and then secondly, communing.
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  And if you don't have a morning and evening prayer, and when I say prayer,
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  I'm talking about the word of God and prayer.
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  I don't know how you survive.
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  I don't know how you, because if you don't have, you're going to get bowed down.
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  You're going to get pulled down. You're going to get, Satan is going to see
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  to it that he throws a thousand things at you to distract you,
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  to just pull you away and turn your vision like Martha.
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  And you become worried and bothered about so many things.
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  But if you don't have at least.
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  At one point, and we'll talk about all day long,
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  but at least at one determined time to sit down in the quiet and listen to the Lord like Mary,
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  seated at his feet, listening to the Lord.
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  I don't see how you survive in this world.
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  You won't. You won't. You can make it through.
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  True but you won't you won't walk through rejoicing
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  you won't walk through with god's perspective you
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  won't walk through in faith and and joy
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  because that comes when you get with him and you realize he's the creator he's
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  in control and he's holy and he's this and he's that and by going vertical yeah
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  and i i think well here's and i'll end with this and we can pray it in.
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  But and here's i just asked this question that the spirit of god is asking me you know that,
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  is in light of him being creator in control which
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  i'm just there's such comfort and knowing that my god is in control he's king
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  of the universe he he loves me and i'm gonna talk don't miss don't just listen
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  to this one miss the next part because we're gonna it's gonna land uh in ways
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  that impact you horizontally by looking vertically.
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  But here's a, I just, man, when's the last time personally, listener, um,
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  that you just got into God's presence and you are overwhelmed by his holiness.
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  Like I'm, man, we're missing too many of the I am. It's like, man, my God is pure.
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  My God has no fault line.
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  He has no fault in him. And he is whose eyes shine like the sun.
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  And and i'm gonna say it again like that's not
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  shouldn't scare us to run from god but
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  a right fear of god should make us run
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  to him and be in all i can
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  come before him and just go lord you are majestic in your holiness like you
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  are and the scripture is telling us that from front to finish and to not and
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  to not know god that way is because we're not we're not living vertically because
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  he is that way. He is that.
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  And think of this verse. It's repeated over and over in Proverbs.
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  The fear of the Lord, which comes from going vertical, seeing him,
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  is the beginning of wisdom.
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  You want to be wise? You can't. The beginning of that is to go vertical,
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  see the holiness of God, and have a proper reverence, awe, respect, and fear for him.
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  It all begins there.
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  And I want to say one more thing before we pray. I know we're kind of going
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  on about this, but it's at the heart of it.
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  You know, as an older man, I'm not – something could change this tomorrow,
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  but I've just been thinking about it a lot, like in the last year.
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  I don't worry as much about things.
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  And I realize that part of that is the cumulative effect of coming to know God. Amen. And that's...
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  You know, just years of looking at him.
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  Amen. When I was under stress, when I was in hard, hard situations.
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  And seeing his faithfulness and his holiness and that he really is in control,
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  and finally, lo and behold, you start to get it.
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  You know, you say, man, I don't need to worry about this on the front end. He's got it.
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  Amen. He's shown me for 72 years that he's got it.
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  And so you start, you know, being kind of ridding yourself of some of that. But it is cumulative.
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  That's right. It's day by day, week by week, year by year, getting aligned and looking up.
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  Amen. So, Kyle, we always, the name of this podcast is One Cry.
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  That's right. And we always want to cry out to the Lord about these things,
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  about our lives, about our nation.
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  And so we want to invite our listeners to pray with us.
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  Don't just listen, but pray with us right now.
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  You may even, as we're praying, you may get to one spot where you just need
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  to turn off the podcast and just get on your face and spend your own time with
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  the Lord. But we're going to leave this here for just a moment.
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  Kyle, why don't you begin, and then I'll close this prayer.
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  So why don't we do this? Just enter in.
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  If you're a follower of Christ, we enter through a veil that has been torn because
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  blood has been shed into the presence of a creator God.
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  And let's just thank him.
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  Thank Him for being the reason why there is a sun and a moon,
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  earth that we walk on, air that we breathe.
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  Let's thank Him that He's in control, that He's not stressed out.
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  He's in control of the nations and the narrative of our one story.
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  Take a moment and recognize his holiness,
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  so father I know that's not near enough time but we just say thank you thank
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  you that we can look up into the face of a God that made all things holds all
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  things together and is absolutely holy.
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  So we love you. I pray for Bill and I and for every listener that you would help us.
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  Holy Spirit, would you help lift our eyes that we might live vertically and
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  that would change everything about us and that you might be rightly glorified.
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  Lord, we think of that verse that says that they looked to him and their faces were not disappointed.
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  Lord, when we take time to see you, we are never disappointed.
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  We always see more than we can imagine.
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  It creates awe in our heart that you're always bigger. You're always more.
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  You're always right. You're always, Lord, you always give us the course correction that we need.
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  And father we spend so much of
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  our time just looking at this sin-wrecked
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  world and lord we know we have to deal with
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  it we know we have to we have to live here but we think of lord paul who said
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  set your mind on things above where christ is seated at the right hand of god
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  Because we have died and our life is hidden with Christ in God.
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  So, Lord, I pray that that you would help us develop the practices to just regularly, daily,
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  hourly look up, just look up, just align ourselves with you and show us how to do that.
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  I pray for every listener on this podcast that, Lord, they would forever think
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  about this, that it would bear that kind of fruit, Lord, in their heart.
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  Lord, the problem is usually when we're worried and bothered and frustrated
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  and upset is not the stuff we're dealing with. It's just we've lost sight of you.
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  And so, Lord, I pray that you would let it become a regular rhythm of our life, Lord, to look up.
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  And we pray that for your glory and in your precious name.
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  Amen. We do want to say to our listeners, thanks so much.
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  And would you do something for us? Would you tell somebody about the One Craft Podcast?
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  Just tell them today. day and uh not we
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  we're not we don't get any money yeah be
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  nice but we we don't and there's no monetary incentive and there's no we're
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  not interested in the any glory or fame because we make enough mistakes that
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  that that you know brings that down real quick we want you to be
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  walking in personal revival every day, and we want other people to.
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  So tell them about the podcast and see if it can help them along the way,
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  and together that we can experience God and His presence.
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  Well, thanks for joining us, and we'll pick this up next time,
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  so don't miss next week as we...
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  Music.