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SEASON2 EPISODE_132_DA CREW PODCAST_HOST BLAQUE DIAMOND · DA CREW Podcast

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  Speaker 3: changed and some things stay the same. Well, tonight's guests
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  Speaker 3: have some things that have changed since the last time
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  Speaker 3: we spoke. That's right, she's back. Nicole S. Brown is
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  Speaker 3: back on basics, back after doc. So let us know
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  Speaker 3: what has changed.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome Nicole, Hi, how are you?
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  Speaker 3: I'm fine? How are you good?
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  Speaker 2: Now?
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  Speaker 3: You're looking good? And I love this.
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  Speaker 2: Wow? Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: Wow. So the last time we spoke, we talked about rumors, gossip,
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  Speaker 3: being an ex mistress, the housing situation, and employment. Just
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  Speaker 3: to mention a few of the things we spoke about.
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  Speaker 3: For those of you who haven't followed us or mister interview,
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  Speaker 3: shame on you. We had a three part mini series
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  Speaker 3: with Nicole and Boy was inspite I see. But before
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  Speaker 3: we get started, I want to ask you. I must
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  Speaker 3: ask you, how's my boy doing?
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  Speaker 4: He doing good?
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  Speaker 2: He's quiet and down now since his show us back one.
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  Speaker 3: So how's he handling some of the changes that have
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  Speaker 3: been made.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he's handling there pretty well. I didn't think that
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  Speaker 2: he was, but he's handling there pretty well.
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  Speaker 3: And what about you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm hanging in there day by day. I'm taking it
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  Speaker 2: one day at a time.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what you can do. Now from the last
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  Speaker 3: time we spoke with the mini series, let me ask you,
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  Speaker 3: what was your favorite episode of the mini series Part
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  Speaker 3: one or.
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  Speaker 2: Three, part three? Because I was able to explain it all.
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  Speaker 3: Wow. So have you been getting any feedback, party feedback
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  Speaker 3: from any of the episodes?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I have, Yes, a lot. I've gotten quite a
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  Speaker 2: few book sales behind it or book more, more five
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  Speaker 2: star book reviews that were international, and more people in
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  Speaker 2: my d ms Hello u Yama's four uh more people
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  Speaker 2: in my d ms giving me props about my books.
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  Speaker 2: People from all.
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  Speaker 3: Over the world. But that's but I'm so glad that
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  Speaker 3: we were able to you know, don't speak with you
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  Speaker 3: to be able to do that mini series, and it
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  Speaker 3: was the first for me, but I enjoyed it. I
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  Speaker 3: found out a lot of information that I hadn't expected
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  Speaker 3: to find out, and my heart went out to you.
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  Speaker 3: With many of the stories and a lot of your
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  Speaker 3: background that I don't think many people have known or
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  Speaker 3: have wanted to know, to give you a fair chance
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  Speaker 3: to be able to tell your part of the story,
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  Speaker 3: to let people know exactly what has happened, and to
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  Speaker 3: see you for who you really are, because I've gotten
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  Speaker 3: to know you, and I think that you're a very
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  Speaker 3: special young lady. So I'm very happy to have met you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very happy to have done the interview. I've heard
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  Speaker 3: a lot about the book What Dreams, and it was
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  Speaker 3: something that I definitely wanted to know more about. But
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  Speaker 3: then I see that you've written other books as well,
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  Speaker 3: So I said, you really just don't know where to start,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because it just seems like it just keeps
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  Speaker 3: going on and on and on. But I gathered from
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  Speaker 3: our commerce last night that a few things have changed.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me what has changed.
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  Speaker 2: Well, my housing situation has changed, my employment situation is
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  Speaker 2: still it is different. I don't have a job anymore
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  Speaker 2: at the time, and then I got some jobs, and
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  Speaker 2: then some numbers got switched around and they couldn't get
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  Speaker 2: me on. And then when I got on the Greyhound
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  Speaker 2: bus to come back to my hometown, then they wanted
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  Speaker 2: to hire me, but it was kind of too late.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm searching here in my hometown, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: chances are variously because the job market is not very
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  Speaker 2: good here. But I'm getting a lot of offers from
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  Speaker 2: people with promotions and such, and I'm thinking my books
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  Speaker 2: are gonna take off. I'm really believing that more than
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  Speaker 2: the more than the job situation. And because I went
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  Speaker 2: on a lot of job interviews and they were looking
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  Speaker 2: at me like I was overqualified. And I'm a teacher,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and I have certifications. I do have certifications
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  Speaker 2: out of the wazoo, and I do have my administrative license,
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  Speaker 2: and I do have books. But it doesn't mean that
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  Speaker 2: I don't need a job right right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm wishing in hope you with that. I'm pretty
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  Speaker 3: sure that something's gonna come through for you. You had
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  Speaker 3: mentioned that what I had mentioned to you, that a
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  Speaker 3: few things have changed. Do you think that people can change?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that people can change, and I just
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  Speaker 2: really thought, well, one particular person, I'm thinking that they
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  Speaker 2: are changing because but I really don't want to overjump
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  Speaker 2: before you even mentioned it. Particular individual.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, got a feeling. I know where that one is going.
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  Speaker 3: So we're gonna get into that one a little bit later.
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  Speaker 3: So do you believe that everything happens for a reason.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe that everything happens for a reason, and
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  Speaker 2: everything is a teachable moment and within our life.
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  Speaker 3: So what have you learned from from all of this
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  Speaker 3: so far?
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  Speaker 2: Not to judge a book by this cover. And everybody
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  Speaker 2: just everybody has some good in them, even though they
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  Speaker 2: may be have maybe bad may do bad things, everybody
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  Speaker 2: has some good in them.
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  Speaker 3: So you said you was back in your hometown. Are
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  Speaker 3: you back with family?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm staying with my mom and my sister.
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  Speaker 3: Oh wow, oh wow.
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  Speaker 5: So the relationship has changed then, Yeah, We're not at
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  Speaker 5: each other's backs, you know, at each other nick anymore.
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  Speaker 2: It was a bad situation when I left to go
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  Speaker 2: to Baton Rouge. Uh, I just packed my things up
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  Speaker 2: and just will because I was just tired of, you know,
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  Speaker 2: constant back biting. But it's better now. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: for how long? Keep my fingers crossed.
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  Speaker 3: No, we're gonna, We're gonna, we're gonna claim it. We're
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  Speaker 3: not gonna stay for how long. It's a permanent. Then
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  Speaker 3: you're back home with your family, and that's where you
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  Speaker 3: may need to be. You know, families, when you get
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  Speaker 3: into situations, sometimes they're ones that know you the best,
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  Speaker 3: and those are the ones that you may be able
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  Speaker 3: to lean on when certain things happen. You know. So
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  Speaker 3: I'm happy that you're you're back home. I see smile
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  Speaker 3: on your face that I hadn't seen before, So something's
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  Speaker 3: working in the atmosphere somewhere along the line. And then
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  Speaker 3: what's important to me, and I'm quite sure it's important
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  Speaker 3: to you, is that my little man is happy.
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  Speaker 2: So that makes he really is.
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  Speaker 3: So are you still writing? And it's so it is
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  Speaker 3: a sequel coming to what dreams? Something we should prepare for.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm still writing. I write a little bit every day.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes I take a little break and write every other day,
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  Speaker 2: but or sometimes I may take two or three days
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  Speaker 2: and don't write it all, and then you know, have
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  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of writing, you know, a big writing
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  Speaker 2: spurt in one day because one day. One time, I
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  Speaker 2: didn't go I went away. It went like three or
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  Speaker 2: four days without writing, and I wrote fifteen pages in
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  Speaker 2: one day. So it depends on how the day is.
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  Speaker 2: If you know we're writing, I am.
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  Speaker 3: That's again. How many books do you?
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  Speaker 2: I have fifteen now, but I'm working on a nutherling.
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  Speaker 2: I'm working on a sequel to Wet Dreams. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: working on a sequel, not a sequel. But I don't
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  Speaker 2: even know what to colleague because quadrupule. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: because this one would be like a fourth book in
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  Speaker 2: a series, and.
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  Speaker 3: Then that's what it will probably be. A series.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm working on whatever you want it to be. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm working on a fourth book in a series and
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  Speaker 2: another third book in a series. So I'm working on
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  Speaker 2: three books at one time. But I'm working on now
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  Speaker 2: with Dreams, the sequel to Wet Dreams, by no later
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  Speaker 2: than November, the end of November.
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  Speaker 3: Have you ever thought that you're saying that you're looking
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  Speaker 3: for work, but you may have already found your niche
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  Speaker 3: where writing could be your job. Some people say, well,
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  Speaker 3: I just want to write, and I'm going to be
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  Speaker 3: a famous writer, inspiring authors because he says, stay folks,
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  Speaker 3: just and learn how to love you more? Wow? Really
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  Speaker 3: nice love it. Have you ever thought that though, that
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  Speaker 3: that might be what you need to do? It just
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  Speaker 3: keeps pulling me back into it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I look at the money and I because,
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  Speaker 2: like I looked at the money today on my royalty account,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, at all these years I've been writing,
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  Speaker 2: only made this much.
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  Speaker 3: But like they say, ron wasn't just built in today. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and it may just take that one thing that that
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  Speaker 3: to the part. Have you even thought or considered using
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  Speaker 3: wet dreams and making it into a movie, doing some
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  Speaker 3: trailers and and things like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody talked to me about that. A guy in
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  Speaker 2: India talked to me about that. And speaking of India,
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  Speaker 2: I was chosen to be write an article about mental
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  Speaker 2: health in a journal this week and they made the
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  Speaker 2: They already made the flyer and everything. I showed my
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  Speaker 2: mom this morning and I haven't even written an article yet.
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  Speaker 3: Did you see what was written just now for you?
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  Speaker 3: It says build your brand, baby, you are your brand.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I see that.
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  Speaker 3: You're getting. I'm feeling these vibes that are just positive
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  Speaker 3: that's just coming into you, you know, you're telling me
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  Speaker 3: about some of the positive things that it's happened, and
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  Speaker 3: I just feel as though there's gonna be greatness coming
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  Speaker 3: your way. I just want you to be prepared for
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  Speaker 3: it when it comes, because I got a feeling that
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  Speaker 3: it's gonna come and it's gonna come strong. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I honestly feel that, and I'm feeling it in my guy.
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  Speaker 3: Outside of your writing, what are your hobbies?
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  Speaker 2: My hobbies are. I like to sing, I like to
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  Speaker 2: cook and bake. I like to put together outfits and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So I like fashion and I like going on, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: spending time with my kids. Interior decorating, like decorating for
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  Speaker 2: parties and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, from what I read. From what I read, that's
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  Speaker 3: how Kim Kardashi ain't got started. She was going into
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  Speaker 3: some people's closet and turning their closets around, fixing the
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  Speaker 3: closets up, and she wind up doing their styles in
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  Speaker 3: their closets. Turning around. You see some of these beautiful
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  Speaker 3: closets of a lot of these celebrities, and that's something
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  Speaker 3: that you're into. You you never know. You said you
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  Speaker 3: like to decorate, You never know. You may do some
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  Speaker 3: parties decorate halls for people's birthday parties or reunions or something.
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  Speaker 3: Put yourself out there. You have to because that's the
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  Speaker 3: only way people are gonna know who you are. If
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  Speaker 3: you need a coach. Coach Queen Angela is amazing, and
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  Speaker 3: yes she is, so I went check into Angela. She
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  Speaker 3: is amazing. She can coach you through that. She's coached
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  Speaker 3: several people through a lot. And I would I would
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  Speaker 3: take up on that. You got these offers coming in.
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  Speaker 3: You said it, you said you have office.
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  Speaker 2: A lot coming in. I do have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: offers coming in. And I wanted to piggyback on my
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  Speaker 2: write And I had never heard a guy from New
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  Speaker 2: York and said that had compared me to May Angelo,
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, wow, you know, I never thought
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  Speaker 2: that I could be compared to her because you know,
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  Speaker 2: she could write about anything, and I have a lot
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  Speaker 2: of writing about a lot of stuff too, And.
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  Speaker 3: That's a compliment in itself.
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  Speaker 2: And she's from the South.
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  Speaker 3: What what do you think sets you apart from other writers? Uh?
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  Speaker 2: I think because I can write about a lot of
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  Speaker 2: different topics, you know, I can. You know, somebody can
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  Speaker 2: give me a topic and I can write it, write
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  Speaker 2: it right. Then some people can't just write from a
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  Speaker 2: writing prompt. I can a lot quicker than some others,
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  Speaker 2: so you can.
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  Speaker 3: Go into different genres and without a problem.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: I believe it's why Hamas who says, don't give up,
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  Speaker 3: keep pushing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom even complimented on me on my writing
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  Speaker 2: for for for now, and I can't believe it. She
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  Speaker 2: said it to to somebody, somebody on the phone.
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  Speaker 3: You heard that, And it's in the cards for things
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  Speaker 3: to start changing for you. You know. I think people
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  Speaker 3: are seeing you for who you really are, but you
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  Speaker 3: need to see you for who you really are. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: And once that happens, it's gonna be no turning back.
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  Speaker 3: They're gonna just keep going forward and it's just gonna
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  Speaker 3: be such an amazing feeling. But to have your mom
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  Speaker 3: compliment your writing, I know that sent you over the moon.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because she don't read a lot about stuff. But
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  Speaker 2: it's one particular poem that the whole family liked and
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  Speaker 2: the whole church like that. I wrote for my dad
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  Speaker 2: when he passed away and how old to a true
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  Speaker 2: sportsman that they really wanted to put it on his headstone,
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  Speaker 2: but they couldn't put it on there because it was
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  Speaker 2: too long, but they is in my book, one of
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  Speaker 2: my books, More many more school days, holidays and all
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  Speaker 2: days a lot between and under the poem, I have
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  Speaker 2: you know who it was dedicated to.
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  Speaker 3: When you see you got, you got people that's backing you.
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  Speaker 3: I feel as though people who are starting to learn
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  Speaker 3: more of what has been going on in your life
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  Speaker 3: or starting to look at it for what it really is,
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  Speaker 3: and it's starting to understand you know, what happened because
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  Speaker 3: it was able to tell your truth, and that's important
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  Speaker 3: when people give you the opportunity to tell your truth
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  Speaker 3: about things that are going on in your life. And
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  Speaker 3: you just seem to be in a different headspace now,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm just really happy for you. You know, it's showing
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  Speaker 3: in your son because I hear him in the background
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  Speaker 3: at times when we're talking, and he just seems to
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  Speaker 3: be in a different space because I think he's pulling
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  Speaker 3: off of your and your energy is showing that you're
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  Speaker 3: a little happier than you were before. And it may
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  Speaker 3: have to do with you being back home with your
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  Speaker 3: family and and them again for them seeing you who
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  Speaker 3: you are and them knowing that that's when you are
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  Speaker 3: all along. It's just that you had to come to
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  Speaker 3: grit with who you are, not with who you think
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  Speaker 3: people think you are. If that makes sense. I hope
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  Speaker 3: that makes sense because it sounds anyway. So just keep it,
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  Speaker 3: Just keep embracing yourself. Just keep embracing yourself, because that's
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  Speaker 3: you're your number one cheerleader. And I know your family
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  Speaker 3: is there supporting you, and that's a wonderful thing. You
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  Speaker 3: mentioned your daughter, you mentioned your mom, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: and how happy and comfortable your son seems to be
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  Speaker 3: taken from there and it's baby steps.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, my family didn't know a lot of this still
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  Speaker 2: that was going on for a while, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: I had to seek help in this situation. And being
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  Speaker 2: that I sought help in a situation, I was able
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  Speaker 2: to be more verbal with my family about what had
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  Speaker 2: went on, and it's helping me in the yellow process.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, you just you just look like you're glowing. You know,
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  Speaker 3: you look like you're glowing because you just seem to
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  Speaker 3: be happier than I've ever seen you. And it's I've
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  Speaker 3: been knowing you for a little bit now, and it's
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  Speaker 3: just it's just shown in your eyes and it's showing
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  Speaker 3: and it just seems like you're more relaxed now. So
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  Speaker 3: whatever transition you went through, I ain't happy for you
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  Speaker 3: that you was able to go through that transition and
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  Speaker 3: be reunited with your family. So that's that's just simply amazing.
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  Speaker 3: What we're gonna do is we're gonna take a commercial
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  Speaker 3: break and when we come back, we're going to continue
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  Speaker 3: to talk with Nicole and we're going to just do
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  Speaker 3: a little girl talk. We're just gonna catch up with
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  Speaker 3: each other. Okay, Well we can keep it moving until
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  Speaker 3: they can pull a commercial together. I well just keep
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  Speaker 3: going through it. So during the mini series, you mentioned
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  Speaker 3: you've gotten a point to a point where you didn't
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  Speaker 3: recognize who you have become. How are you feeling about
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  Speaker 3: that statement now that you feel as though you didn't
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  Speaker 3: recognize who you've become, and then who are you now?
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  Speaker 2: Well? I didn't recognize who I had become because you know,
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  Speaker 2: well it just happened so quickly, and I wasn't planning
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  Speaker 2: on it for you know, to end up me to
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  Speaker 2: end up that way. And I see myself as different now.
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  Speaker 2: I see myself as a dibbeted a rough, you know,
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  Speaker 2: going from going up from a rough place ending up
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  Speaker 2: to being someone successful.
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  Speaker 3: I think that you're going to be very successful. I
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  Speaker 3: don't want you to keep doubt on inside. Oh and
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  Speaker 3: don't let nobody take your spirit from you, you know,
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  Speaker 3: no matter what, don't let anybody speak who you know
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  Speaker 3: you are, no matter what they say, no matter what
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  Speaker 3: they do. You know what direction you're going in, and
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  Speaker 3: you know what's ahead of you. You got these offers
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  Speaker 3: coming in now, you know, and it's probably getting to
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  Speaker 3: the point where you gonna have to decide which way
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  Speaker 3: you want to go.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: You may need like a PR person or some kind
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: of rep to to help you sort that out. And
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: you just had an offer with Coach Angela, So that
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: may be some direction. Because she's she's worldwide, she's all
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: over the place. And when I say that, I say
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: it in a good way that she has the connections
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: that you may need to get you into the direction
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: that you want to be in. So that might be
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: something that you may want to check out. You already
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: do your publishing. I think that you had spoken with
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: a couple of my co sisters and podcasters and been
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: on this show, and I sometimes I just click on
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: and I see your face just going across the screen
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: that you're on somebody else's show. So people are hearing
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: about you, they're hearing your story, they're reading your books,
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: and that's just that's a wonderful thing. I'm curious stuff.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: How do you start your day and what do you
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: do to relax and unwine.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: I get up and I listen to some music and
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: read a little bit from my Bible or devotional or
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: something or the verse of the day. And I have
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: me I don't drink coffee, so I have like some
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: juice or I know it's bad, but I have me
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: a coke or some water or something like that with lemon,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: and I read a little bit. I wind get my
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: son ready for school, and do some light cleaning, and
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: then after that I try to sit, sit and write
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: and if not, if I can't get that done, then
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I go for a walk. So I really been doing
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: a lot of walking lately. That's probably why you see
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: the glow, because I've lost forty pounds and walk twice
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: a day.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Anything, anybody, what do you admire most about yourself?
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: I like the writing because it's therapeutic and you know,
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I can really let myself go in the writing you know,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: I can really let loose.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: You admire that you can let loose with it. Now,
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: when when I hear writers saying that they let I
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: won't hear right and saying that they let loose. Does
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: that mean that you just go to another place with it?
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, wow.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: So's that's how wet Dreams came about, where you just.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Some of them some of them was real, and then
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: some of it, you know, was fantasy. And like I said, yeah, well.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna take you back there, and I'm not
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: gonna take these people. They're gonna have to look at
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: the mini series to see what was going on in
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: wet Treets were better than that. They need to buy
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: the book by the book, and then you know why
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: we're sitting here laughing, buy that book, O congratulations. See
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: they may not be the way you want them to
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: be moving.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: And he said in the in the book and and
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: the review that every line gave him a bodily sensation.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: And this is what dreams you talk about.
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: Uh huh, Bodily said, I bet you we did. I
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: hope you can feel thisself off. I swear I hope
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: you can feel hisself off the floor. I'm not sure
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: whether this gentleman is married or that, but.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Hey, they give him a second thought. That's wonderful that
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: you were. You're being appreciated, being acknowledged, and you're being recognized,
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: and it's your time. It's your time to know that
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: it's your time. Don't let nobody take that from you.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: You don't have to go stepping backwards. You know some
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: people say that they take two steps forward and then
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: they have to take one step back. You're not walking backwards.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: You're gonna keep walking forward. But you're gonna keep walking forward.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Question for you, have you heard from your exalk about
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: what dreams?
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: I haven't had.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: I take that as a yes.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: But there.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: They're going to try to go there. But now that
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: you're gonna open up Pandor in his box, you seen him?
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Have you guys had a conversation.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm mm hmmm.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Well stay focused, stay focused. And I think somebody else
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: had mentioned that tonight to stay focused. Things are working
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: out for you. Sometimes some people are miserable in their
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: own tracks and they haven't evolved yet, and then self
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: worth is not where they thought it could have been
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: or should be. And then some people like to drag
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: people down with them.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he's not doing as well as he was
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: when we were together.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Well, that's not your place to pick him up.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: You know, it's not your place to pick him up.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: And I don't know this, gentleman. I'm not gonna sit
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: there and say anything bad about him or what has
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: transpired between the two of you. But he may need
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: to soul search himself to get to where he wants
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: to be. So that's all I'm gonna say about him.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: But let me ask you this now. I ask you,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: have you heard from your ex? But are you still single?
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Are you dating? Is this somebody special that you're thinking about.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I'm single, but I have friends.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: I know what that means. But that's good.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah I have friends.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: And I'm glad to hear that, because he is at
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: a space one time where was looking a little uncomfortable
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: for you with people who you said were your so
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: called friends. But I think that they're starting to see
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: the truth. They're starting to understand that any one of us,
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: male or female, could have been caught in an entanglement,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: whether it was an intentional or not. Anybody can get
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: caught in an entanglement. The heart loves who the heart loves,
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: but we just have to learn to control some of
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: our emotions. And that was something that you will grow
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: from and hopefully this young man will grow from it
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: as well. And if he is married, I hope and
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: wish the best for him and in his family, just
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: like I wish the best for you and yours. So
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: what type of man you're interested in having a relationship with?
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, someone nice?
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: Watching someone nice, and mister Wright might be watching.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, someone good. Someone He don't have to be rich,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: but it won't hurt. A good provider, a good protector,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: a good advisor, somebody that's fun. He gotta be all
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: that good looking. He can be a little bit, you know.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: He ain't gotta be totally hands on, but it would
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: be nice if he was handsled.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: So okay, So who's your celebrity crush?
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Really? You want me to tell you Eldress?
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, look a nice looking man. And there's a
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: lot of women that feels the same way.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, a.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Lot of women that feel he may take it as
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: a compliment.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and my old my old school man crushes Al Green.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Okay, mm hmmm. As well, you know, people love people
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: for different reasons. There's a difference in the type of
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: man there, so that tells you where you're at. You know,
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: from al Green to Interest album, one is a singer
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: and one is an actor. I don't believe that interesting
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: thing he might be able to I'm not sure, but
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: that's a variety in between those two. So you know,
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: whatever makes you happy is what's important, and that's what's important.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Whatever makes you happy. What are you most excited about
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: right now?
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm excited about my son going back to school
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: so I could have a break so I can do
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: a little bit more write it. But no, to be honest,
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: I'm excited about all of these offers that I'm getting
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: because they're coming out the wazus and like I could
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: hardly keep up. I can barely keep up.
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: I like telling them not yet, not yet, not yet,
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: not yet, you know, or not at this time, or
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: let me research your your your.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Samples and all of it, because I just don't want
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: to jump into anything. And they may not have a
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: good rating from their people that they promote. So I
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: wanted to do. I want to it is.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Let's call it where there's some of them may not
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: be who they say they are. Yeah, you know, some
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: of them may want to get a hold of your
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: creation and make it there, So be mindful when you
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: are talking to some of these individuals. Get get an
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: attorney to read any forms and contracts, because once you
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: sign it, you could be and over everything that you
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: have and even future things. So you have to be
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: mindful of what you're doing. So it would probably be
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: best if you get somebody to coach you that's been
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: in the game for a period of time. I think
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Miss Angela has over one hundred books and she's been
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: added for a period of time, so I believe she's
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: somebody that definitely knows what she's talking about and she
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: can more than likely connect you with different people, you know,
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: So she's put herself out there to let you know
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: that she's willing to coach you. So that might be
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: somebody that you may want to take up on that offer.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: And that's another offer for you, you know, because sometimes
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: people when they're vulnerable and they try to go after them.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: So that's when they come in like sharks. I'm gonna
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: be honest. They come in like sharks, and then once
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: they have you, they have you. You sign a contract
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: with them, you can be indebt to them for the
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: next ten years and won't see a dime of royalty
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: they do you don't, so be mindful before you sign
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: any contracts, make any agreements. You're doing the right thing
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: by looking through things and following up, seeing who they are,
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: seeing what's about them. But they can doctor certain things
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: to make things look like something that it's not. Do
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: you have any regrets in life?
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: I kind of regret that I didn't that I didn't
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: stay in Baton Rouge when I left fourteen years ago,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: because so much has changed. But still I still remember
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: the place, and I really want to go back when
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: things get better from me because I like living there.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, something just like looking into just.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Yes he did, Yes he did?
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: That could be a place.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Did you write Inton, I wrote seven books when I
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: in one year when I was living there. I had
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: a lot of creative energy there. Mm hmm.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Did you feel as though that you were more at
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: peace while you.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Were there, Yeah, because I had a lot more to do.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: I had a lot more to do with my kids.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't like this place is small and
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: everybody knows everybody, and you know, it was just a
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: little bit more wide open, and it was closer to
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: New Orleans where I could do open mics and such.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: And see here there's not an opportunity to do many
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: open mics. And what I used to do when I
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: lived in bad Ruge was go to New Orleans to
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: to do my poetry and stuff like that. So and
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I was doing it a lot, and that's what inspired
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: me to write books.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Doing the open mics, you were able to walk it
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: yourself a little bit more there than you are in
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: the town that you're in now. Right, Is there any
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: day for you to continue with those connections that you
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: that you had there?
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Yes, with the Internet and Instagram, social media as such.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: What about travel, would you be able to travel?
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Probably not now, but pretty soon I probably will be.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: M I'm supposed to be to bad and Rouge for
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: a Labor Day weekend, and maybe me and my sister
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: will go to New Orleans for open NC nineteen.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: Has she ever had your family ever been to any
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: of your open mic nights?
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: No, they ain't never heard of none of my stuff.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Traveling with sister now to see you. Is she your
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: younger sister or older sister?
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: She's the older I'm the youngest, so she probably gonna
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: be like, oh wow, my sister. He'll say this.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: That should be if you guys take a trip.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And she's gonna be sitting.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: In there audience this as proud as she want to be,
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: her little sister sitting there. What do they call that spitting?
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Is that what they call it when it's open? Yes, Hey,
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: she's gonna see her baby sister up there in the
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: trip for both of you may just do you both well?
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Knowing her crazy self, she'll get up there and start singing.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: Well, didn't that You know what? That's a connection that
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: you and her will have together.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll both.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: And enjoy the trip, have something to laugh about, things
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: to talk about. That's the beginning for both of you.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: And I see that.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that she liked the most. Methane and money.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: None say it again.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: Methane and monkey nuts. I want a contest with that poem.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Now what does that mean?
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Methane it's the key component and flatulence and monkey nuts
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: is think about it.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to changing the subject. Now, I changed the
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: subject for all that you've been through. I asked, and
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: that's what I get. That's exactly what I get for
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: accent from all.
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: That you've been through, Look with a title like that,
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: I don't doubt that you.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't win that contest. I guess kudos to you for
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: coming up with that. Speaking of coming up, have you
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: come up with a name for your next book?
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I've narrowed down to three different titles, but I haven't
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: I haven't picked one yet, and I have a poll
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: on my Instagram and my LinkedIn pages for people to
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: help me choose. It's either wetter dreams more wet dreams
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: to come or wet dreams come true.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: Do your poll allow people to make suggestions? Okay, Okay,
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: so that's before you too. Wow, it was a great
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: idea from all that you've been through. What are the
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: three takeaways from your experiences?
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Always let people know how you feel about a person
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: you know, don't wait, don't hold it in you know,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: don't hold it in your feelings you know about situations,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: because it could really come back to do you a
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: lot of harm. And I did a lot of it.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I did a lot of internalize and how I felt
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: about different things, and I probably shouldn't have because it
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: ate me up in a long run. So that's one
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: thing I regret doing, and I not plan on not
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: doing it anymore because I'm the type of person that
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: don't really like conflict. I really never did, and I
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: kind of do anything to keep the peace, you know,
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: even if it hurt my feelings. I'll do anything to
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: keep the peace. And I learned better. I'm learning better
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: not to do that.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: From the time that I met you to now, I
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: see growth in you, I honestly do. I see that
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: you seem to be a little bit more relaxed, a
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: lot more patient with yourself, and a lot more forgiving
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: of yourself. And that's important. You have that right to
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: forgive yourself for anything that you want to be forgiven for.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: You don't have to wait for somebody else to forgive you.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: So I want you to remember that it's okay to
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: forgive yourself. You don't have to wait for somebody to say, oh,
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: you know, I'll think about whether I'm want to forgive
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: you for this that or the other who aid them. God,
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure what your faith is. I'm not pushing
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: my faith on you or anybody else. But you have
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: to deal with your decisions and your choices yourself and
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: forgiveness for what I'm seeing from what I'm hearing, for
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: you to have started forgiving yourself. You seem to be
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: in a better place. You seem to be a lot
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: calmer than what you were when we first met. I
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: can look back at the miniseries from the first second
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: to third one to now and I see somebody that
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: she seems like peace is just it's surrounding you. And
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know what you've been through to make this happen,
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: but just keep up the good work with it. You
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: just keep up doing what you're doing that makes you happy,
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: it makes your son happy. I want to thank you
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: to Cole for chatting with us tonight. I'm gonna continue
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: to follow you and bring you back once that sequel
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: is written. I also want to thank you viewers and
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: listeners for turning for tuning in tonight and every first
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: and third Friday of the month. Tune in on September
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: the sixth for a special episode of Relaxed, Relate and
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: the release of an incarcerated man of more than a
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: quarter of a century. He will be he lied in
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: my studio here on Basic Black after Dawn. Now, what
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: I hadn't thought about saying is who he is what
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Some people may have certain feelings of why I should
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: feel this way, but if you've gotten to know me,
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: I really don't care. This is my brother who is
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: coming home from incarceration. He served his time. I'm not
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: gonna hold anything else against him because he's done what
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: he was supposed to do and next to do the
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: time he was supposed to sern And yes, I am
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: very very happy to have him home. I'm gonna have
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: boxes of tissue. I'm gonna tell you that right now,
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: because I know I'm gonna probably be boring like crazy.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: We're gonna have a phone number for those of you
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: who remember my brother so you can call in. But
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: what I am going to say is that the phone
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: calls are going to be minded to. I understand people
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: have their own opinions. Now I'm the youngest of my family,
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: but that's my brother, and I'm gonna make sure that
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: we're gonna watch what people's gonna say. And you have
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: a right to your opinion, but this is my show
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  Speaker 3: and we're not gonna go get with him for that.
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  Speaker 3: He's given his time up already. And for those of
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  Speaker 3: you who know him, you know you know what type
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  Speaker 3: of person is, So I'm not gonna keep going on
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  Speaker 3: about him because I can sit here and talk all
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  Speaker 3: night about him, and I can't wait for you to
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  Speaker 3: be him, for you to get to know who he is,
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  Speaker 3: because you're going to see somebody that's because that's the
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  Speaker 3: way I feel about Nicole. Again, thank you, and the
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  Speaker 3: best of everything. We're gonna stay in touch like we
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  Speaker 3: do sometimes we have them late night talks and conversations
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  Speaker 3: and it's still okay to give me a call.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: One of my guests that I do not mind having
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  Speaker 3: my number and calling me because I definitely want to
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  Speaker 3: stay in touch with you because I believe in you,
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  Speaker 3: and I believe nothing but greatness for you. Thank you,
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  Speaker 3: good night, everybody. Thank you again for tuning in to
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  Speaker 3: Basic Black After eight, After Darn.
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  Speaker 4: Basic Black After Dawn, the all new podcast show with
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