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Apocalypse Now… and Also Tomorrow · Journey to the Fringe

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From the unexplained to the mundane, come join
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us on a journey to the fringe. Hello and welcome
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to Journey to the Fringe. Now apparently, like,
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Orca focused for their listening, hopefully.
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I don't know. We think. Somebody just put a speaker
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in the ocean, okay? Yeah, our scientists say
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so. You know what we say. At least 12 more speakers
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need to be in the ocean by the end of the day
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or we're quitting this podcast. I say that all
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the time. I just scream it out loud when I'm
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bored. We just said that before we started recording.
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We're always saying it. That's how we sync our
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audio streams. It's so weird. This finally came
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up on the podcast. Yeah, I don't know how we
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restrained ourselves for so long. Anyhow, we
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are your podcast hosts and not orcas, just fans.
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And hopefully they are fans of us, Taylor and
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Chelsea, here today doing a Chelsea episode.
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And all I know is that Chelsea had a change of
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heart in her script. I don't know what it was
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to or from, but I think she's got an episode.
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I had many change of hearts, as I always do.
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It's part of the process and you got to trust
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it. We have so many like 40 % scripts. Yep. Do
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I ever have an asshole episode for you? when
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the orc is this week we are hot off the asshole
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ranking episodes and also project looking glass
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and i think we were all inspired to look at yet
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another asshole and i'm reaching way back on
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this one even though this man is still going
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today a man who i've greatly confused with steven
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greer today i will be covering steven quail have
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you heard of this man taylor The name is somewhat
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familiar. I know he's been on Coast to Coast.
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Yeah. Because I can distinctly remember the name
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Quail coming up. Yeah, and I have consistently
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confused him with Stephen Greer, so I'm pretty
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sure you'll get some of the ideas that I threw
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out there going through this. Okay. Because for
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a while there, I was convinced that Stephen Greer
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was this guy. They're two totally different people,
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as I have come to learn. And somehow he has no
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Wikipedia page, so I couldn't really go to that
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for information, and I did find that a little
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strange, being how ingrained he is. is into this
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community. But here is what I was able to put
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together of his early life and background. He
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was born in the U .S. in 1956, so it's fairly
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vague. He grew up fascinated by history, archaeology,
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biblical prophecy, and esoteric mystery. Oh no,
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he's not a Nephilim guy, is he? Oh, is he ever.
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Okay. He is the guy. He had an early career in
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engineering and business before pivoting into
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full -time friendship. Why is it What was business
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people? I don't know. Maybe they know how to
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talk to people. And he was influenced by Cold
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War paranoia, religious prophecy, culture, and
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early prepper movements. And of course, what
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bio isn't complete without a Coast to Coast AM
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bio? So here we go. Steve Quayle is a researcher
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and author of over a dozen books dealing with
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advanced ancient technology and civilizations.
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His documentary film production company Gen 6
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Productions Films that quote true legends the
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series all over the world in search of the lost
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cities and the giants of history who were the
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builders of great ancient megalithic structures.
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Steve is a former talk radio host who has been
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warning against genetic Armageddon and the end
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of the human race for decades. He claims transhumanism
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and the hybrid age is the most dangerous advancement
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in the technological war against humanity in
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history. Man, he... I'm on Gen 6 Productions'
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website. Yeah. And they are really pushing the
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fear. Oh, yeah. Just you wait. There's a needle
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front and center, an atomic bomb, a drought,
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a tank, and a blurry alien walking towards you.
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It all checks out. And something called Earth
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in the crosshairs. Is Gen 6 like a play on Genesis?
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I feel like it is, but I don't know for sure.
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It probably is, knowing this guy. And that is
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the most on brand I think I've seen for any person
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in this community. It's that you instantly got
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that feeling looking at that. His actual website
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bio was garbage. I would not even call it a bio.
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It's just a huge list of the books that he's
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done and a huge buy now button. For what? I'm
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pretty sure it's the books, but I don't know.
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I didn't click on it. I don't want to buy anything
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from him. Oh, no. He has a podcast called Q Files.
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Yeah, he does. Okay. Okay. He also has this on
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his bio on his website. It's just... It says,
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The following are some of the more dramatic events
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Quayle identified long before mainstream news
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even had a clue. Followed by many bullet points
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I did not want to read because you listening
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to this episode and what he talks about is going
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to be enough on the brain. Being all of that
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all taken in together for his bios, I... We just
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really find that suspicious about him. We don't
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know his background. It is weird that you can
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write 12 books and have nothing known about you.
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I feel like if you've written that many books,
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you should have a Wikipedia page at least. I
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know. And he's been on so... We're going to talk
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about what he's done. He has a production company.
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He's fairly ingrained into the community. He's
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a regular guest on most podcasts, including the
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guy that we brought up and we talked about on
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the last one, whoever... was. I can't remember
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his name. Yeah, I don't know his name either.
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He's crazy though. I gathered as much. His co
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-host is an AI. Oh, yeah. I remember that being
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a part of it. And he was like, they check things
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with him sometimes. Oh, yeah. They do banter.
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Yeah. So, I don't know. I find it a little suspicious.
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He often works alongside other fringe researchers
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such as Timothy Alberino, L .A. Marzulli, and
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the late Tom Horn. Yes, L .A. Marzulli. The other
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Giants guy. Yeah. Not that big of an asshole,
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we've learned. Comparatively. Oh, no. Yeah, we
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definitely, not even that long ago. Go back and
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listen. It's fine. He has been on the Alex Jones
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show, and in an interview I listened to with
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him, he did say Alex Jones didn't want him back
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on the show. It's actually on that one that we
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were just talking about, the guy. Knowledge Fight?
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Oh, yeah. No, sorry, with that. I just closed
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it, too. Whatever it's called. That's okay. I
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just played it. One sec. The Geisinger, unfiltered.
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That's it. Yeah, so that's where he shared that
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Alex Jones didn't want him back on his show.
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But you honestly never know with these guys what's
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true and what's not. No, they're all playing,
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like, what they think will get the most out of
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them. Exactly. I mean, Alex Jones isn't exactly
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known for telling the truth about things. I did
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listen to a few clips between Alex Jones and
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Steve Quayle and they actually compliment each
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other really nice. Not compliment, but they go
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together nicely. No, seeing his website, I see
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that like it makes a lot of sense that they would
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work well together. Yeah. Steve does seem to
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outdo Alex Jones on the fear mongering though.
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And he's a little bit more biblical than Alex
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Jones. It's pretty crazy to listen to them together
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because there's a lot of, I totally agree that.
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what I've been saying sentiments type of things
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and they'll each play off each other because
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they talk about the same shit and Alex Jones
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also so kindly pointed out another difference
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in a clip I watched here's the difference Steve
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has secret sources and Alex just goes off of
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what they admit to And by that, I think it means
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that he just Googles shit. So I thought it'd
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just be fun to have a little listen here. I should
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say Alex Jones does have his secret sources.
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It's a lot of the times it's just the people
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that call into his show and spit things off him.
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And then like a week later, it'll be a secret
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source told him that. and the hilarious thing
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is he cannot have actual secret sources because
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if he actually has somebody tell him something
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he has to chase the clout of being associated
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with somebody who's a big deal so he has to say
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who told him We're just going to take a little.
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Oh, good harp. We did a good episode. Yeah, that's
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why I chose this one. Oh, it's a young little.
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I know it is young Alex. For the next 10 minutes,
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you've got the floor, other key areas, other
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things that listeners need to know about from
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all of your research as all of this appears to
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come to a head as the enemy openly announces.
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what their plans are for society, for all of
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us. I mean, when they come out and say, we wear
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black uniforms to intimidate you, as they announce
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that, I mean, I'm just going to show people on
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the document cam some of the news that I have
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here in front of me. Here's making sure Osama
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does not hijack bass boats. That's associated
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press there for everybody, just right out in
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the open. Here's another one. U .S. Air Force
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calls for mission to combat climate change by
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spraying the atmosphere. And just as we always
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said, by adding stuff to jet fuel, town hall
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snoopers hijack terror. He's just laying down
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papers. Yeah, he has a camera over top of the
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table and just puts down things he printed off.
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He's actually put print screens of YouTube videos
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on that before. They actually pasteurize it so
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they can feed you milk full of cow dung and blood
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and pus. And I've worked in dairies. I've worked
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around them. I've visited them. I've worked on
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ranches that had dairies, and I've been made
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to work in them. Maybe a week or two out of three
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years I worked on ranches, but I know a little
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bit about them. It's really serious. Men are
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not arrested. Sheriff's candidate believes crime
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is terrorism. I mean, it just goes on and on.
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Steve, your take on that? Well, I think that
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everything is happening concurrently. You know,
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I think people fail when they look at the world
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in a linear way, first and foremost, because
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they don't see how it's all turned loose at once.
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For instance, the genetically modified food,
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Alex, the situation with the xenoestrogens in
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bottled water, men's sperm count being so low.
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I mean, literally all of the issues that genetically
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we were designed so wonderfully and so beautifully.
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come to know him are more numerous than the sand
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of the sea, so God really has our best interest
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at heart. But the thing is, is that people don't
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recognize that right now, the vaccination, here's
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what I was told, the most pressing bit of information
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I can tell everyone, is that the vaccination,
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look, all they have to do, Alex, is present four
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dead bodies, give it mass media hype and hysteria,
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and tell you that if you don't go, and by the
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way, they'll mutilate the bodies and say, look
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what this horrible disease has done, and if you
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don't take vaccination, you'll be placed into
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a camp for your safety, for the safety of those
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around you. Well, they have said they'll use
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biological attacks, real or promulgated, as a
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pretext for control. They've built 36... By the
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way, I saw a YouTube comment last week. I was
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talking about 36 Level 4 bioweapons labs and
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part of the program BioShield, which Mainstream
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News, Baltimore, and others have reported. Alex
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just seems so much more on top of his game than
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he does now. Oh, yeah. Well, and, like, everything
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he's talking about now is, like, Trump is doing
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it. And he has to defend this. Like, he's talking
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about how the other side wears black just to
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make the other side feel intimidated. And you're
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like, huh, I've seen those ICE protests. There.
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Oh, listen, listen. This is my favorite. is we're
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not making any of this up, Steve. No, and the
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bottom line is, remember, those who always say
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that on the air, like when I'm on Coast to Coast,
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I mean, these guys are government shills. They
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are actually paid. to come on and say, where's
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the proof? Get off your lazy teacher and go Google
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it. That's what I tell them now. Absolutely.
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Well, I'm going to put on the document, Cam,
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the Associated Press. There we go. That's enough.
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I thought that would just be a nice little introduction
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to Steve Quayle. They did go well together. They
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basically both would go... If you gave them both
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the same starting word, I feel like they'd both
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come up with vaguely the same rant. I don't know
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that they get to the same place, but I feel like
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they play not like they were like yeah and it's
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almost like they had a really good improv yeah
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exactly that's what it is exactly so I thought
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that would be a nice little we get a little Alex
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Jones like young Alex Jones we get to hear Steve
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Quayle talk and then I just like where that ends
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there where they're like yeah we don't have to
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prove shit That is great. I know. Because only
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the government would ask for proof. Exactly.
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Only the government would ask for proof. And
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if you don't know, go Google it like they did.
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Anyhow, that's my introduction. Let's take a
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closer look at his works and what he's known
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for. So Taylor already went and was investigating
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the Gen 6 website. So he works a lot in giants
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and he wrote a book called Genesis 6. He is the
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giant guy. So I find it funny that he never came
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up on the Giants of Kandahar episode. Maybe he
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doesn't talk about the Giants of Kandahar. Maybe
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I didn't. I don't know. Maybe I did something
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wrong on my episode. I don't know. I don't have
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the answers for that at this time. So he is the
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author of Genesis 6, Giants and Longwalkers.
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This is his most prominent work of fiction. Nonfiction.
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I don't know. These are books claiming ancient
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civilizations were ruled by literal giants. This
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is his most famous research, which focuses on
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the biblical Nephilim. Yeah, doesn't he basically
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say like, look, David beat Goliath and Goliath
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was the king. So all the kings were giants. up
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until David. Pretty much, yeah. He argues that
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ancient giants were historical realities and
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that their corrupted genetics are key to understanding
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both history and future global events. A lot
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of biblical tie -ins, David and Goliath, stuff
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like that. He talks about red -haired giants
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and the giants are the children of the fallen
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angels who had kids with humans. There's a lot
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of stuff. He has a lot of terms for them. Book
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the one they always point back to yeah apparently
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quail has talked about the giant of kandahar
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specifically on november 7 2005 on coast to coast
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am oh interesting and i don't think he came up
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on the giant account maybe he did i don't know
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yeah maybe we thought it was stephen greer and
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we're like no that's wrong yeah yeah i very well
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could have done that i'm pretty sure even on
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the stephen greer episode i threw out some stephen
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quail stuff He claims modern institutions are
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covering up evidence of these beings. The Smithsonian
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also an episode. Governments, academia. This
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book could be yours for a mere $633 .80 Canadian
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on Amazon .ca. I'm going to read a couple reviews
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because that's what we do. A Elder gave it two
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out of five stars. Title, some interesting informational
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tidbits, but mirrored in fundamentalist commentary.
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This could have been a four or five star book
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if the author had reframed from frequently interjecting
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his Christian fundamentalist opinion. Those looking
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for historical facts will have to sift through
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the dogmatic fluff, which can be annoying at
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times. Phileas Svog gave two out of five stars.
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Waste of money. badly researched and written
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full of mistakes and seriously lacking in evidence
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to support the author's conclusions he also like
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goes around with all he has all these like crazy
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giant pictures from somewhere that he likes to
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show at talks that he does and i think you'll
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see them if you just google steve quayle giants
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there's a bunch of giant pictures that come up
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in relation to him he's also published breathe
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no evil a tactical guide focused on surviving
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biological and chemical terrorism, Empire Beneath
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the Ice, an exploration of theories regarding
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Nazi occultism and secret bases in Antarctica,
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True Legends documentary series, a series of
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films investigating forbidden history in places
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like Peru, Sardinia, and the American Southwest.
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I think you're probably getting the feeling that
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he has his hand in a lot of different conspiracies,
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not just giants. Yeah, I think the needle on
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the front, like front and center on Gen 6 was
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my first hint. Yeah, on the website that nobody
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else could see, but you explained very well.
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He also has his hand in... a great deal of conspiracy
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broadcasting. In his early career, he served
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as the editor and publisher of two influential
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survivalist newsletters, Survival Quest and Security
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and Survival Chronicles. He's a prepper too,
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from what I gather. Yeah. Oh, just wait. We're
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just getting started. He is a staple in alternative
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talk radio. He hosts his own program, The Q Files,
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like Taylor has already investigated, and has
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been a frequent long -term guest on Coast to
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Coast AM, The Jim Baker Show, and The Alex Jones
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Show. You've probably heard him on Coast to Coast
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AM. I for sure heard him on Coast to Coast. And
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the voice sounds so familiar, right? And it's
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just one of those people that actually just fades
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into the background for me. me because he's so
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generic about what he talks about he grabs onto
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like all these conspiracies and it could be anyone
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because you know people usually have a niche
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he talks about all of it but again he could be
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anyone just because it's just those topics that
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all conspiracy theorists do. Yeah like even in
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the title of the Alex Jones thing they're talking
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about chemtrails and harp. Yeah so pretty much
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He can comment on anything. He's a longtime radio
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host on Survive to Thrive, and he presents himself
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as a whistleblower on government conspiracies,
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ancient technologies, end times prophecy, hidden
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civilizations. I'm not sure how he's presenting
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himself as a whistleblower on all of these topics,
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but you know, he has a guy who told him all of
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this stuff, like all of them do. Now, moving
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on to Gen 6 Productions, where Taylor was as
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well. Taylor, He's done very good research so
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far. Gen 6 is a media company that he heads,
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producing documentaries on giants, fallen angels,
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forbidden archaeology, as well as hosts conferences
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such as the True Legends series. A lot of talk
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about Gobekli Tepe, ancient Egypt, all of those
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very popular ancient civilization topics. And
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his film includes true legends, holocaust of
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giants, and the lies of men and gods focused
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on archaeological mysteries and biblical prophecy.
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Did you find anything else interesting? Well,
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I clicked on stevequayle .com at the bottom.
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That is a busy website. Oh yeah, it's a stereotypical
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UFO website, definitely. I feel like he added
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much more ads than I've ever seen on one of these
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pages. Really? You think he does? I think he
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did. And it's hard to tell which ones are ads
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and which ones aren't because a lot of them are
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gold -oriented, and I feel like he also talks
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probably a lot about gold. Oh, you know it. That's
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one of the conspiracy things. Yeah. Continuing
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on with the theme, he's a prominent voice in
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the survivalist prepper community since before
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Y2K, but oh boy, is he ever still going. There's
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a million ways in which the world is going to
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end immediately, according to Quayle. And I'm
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sure he was talking about Y2K ending the world
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at that time. And he's still going. He still
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goes. It's just the world is now ending the next
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tomorrow. The important thing is with this community,
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because you're trying to sell things that are
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for the end of the world, is the... End of the
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world has to be coming like immediately. It's
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always immediate with him is the thing. And it's
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more immediate than most people feel comfortable
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doing. He promotes prepping for societal collapse.
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economic disaster, and spiritual warfare, and
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as well as focusing on biological, chemical,
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and nuclear threats. So it's all very nice things
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to be talking about, listening to, being around,
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something like that. It's quite heavy. He does
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say that he is one of the original preppers that
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had the platform for a bigger audience. Now,
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I unfortunately spent one entire day listening
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to this man. I've listened to him on and off
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in preparation. this but i did on a day off put
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on stephen quayle for the day and holy i've had
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enough of stephen quayle i just have to share
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some of my observations that i had for that day
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with you first and foremost holy this man can
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talk there's a reason he is a staple on all of
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these talk shows he'll get asked a question and
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not only will he not answer the question he was
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just not enough time to actually get back to
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it He will jump from topic to topic to topic
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of just headline conspiracies in one single breath.
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It's absolutely breathtaking. He has a skill.
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It's a verbal diarrhea skill and it just keeps
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going and going. It's just like, you know, he
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says that one thing that relates to another thing
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and then it's another thing and then it's another
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thing. And then by that, you've totally lost
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the plot. I made notes on the topics visited
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in a single random 15 minute interview. The interview
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was in 15 minutes. This was one single interview,
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15 minutes of talking. And I just need to share
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with you what he touched on in that 15 minutes.
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William Cooper, vaccinations, Majestic 12 and
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magic clearance within the government, Hyperborea,
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Camelot in the last continents, Alien in Las
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Vegas, Alien in Miami. Men in Black, Three -Eyed
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Atlas, UFOs Entering Volcanoes, Stop Market Crash,
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and the AI bubble ending the world as we know
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it. He's a proud Trump supporter and lots and
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lots of Bible quotes thrown in there. 15 minutes.
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That's... Yeah, and... I mean, it doesn't sound
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like it should go for 15 minutes from that. Like,
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it shouldn't... You shouldn't be able to naturally
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go between that many things or those things in
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particular. It's crazy. There was not one interview
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where he didn't talk like that, but that's someone
23:46
who's skilled in talking, right? They kind of
23:49
take you from topic to topic and then they come
23:51
back around to it and you're like, oh yeah, that's
23:54
how you draw people in. Yeah, they're salespeople.
23:56
They know how to avoid topics they don't want
23:58
to talk about and they know how to bring it back
23:59
to what they're trying to sell, which is why
24:01
it's weirdly talking about the economic downturn
24:04
in AI, I bet. Because again, he's got a gold
24:06
guy. I shouldn't say again. He's got a gold guy
24:09
that he gets a cut from for selling gold. Oh,
24:12
absolutely. Everything that's on that website
24:14
too. And everything that he's selling. He has
24:16
a book. He has, you know, all these podcasts
24:19
and everything that he appears on. So it's just
24:23
insane when you're listening to him talk. I didn't
24:26
enjoy listening to him talk, but I will say he
24:29
has a skill as far as bringing people in. And
24:33
having a knack for talking, I guess. You know
24:37
those people that just have a skill at talking.
24:40
Oh, yeah. It's kind of like we hate David Wilcock.
24:42
And he's actually actually really bad at talking.
24:45
But I'll listen to him no matter what he's talking
24:49
about. Because he's so bad at it. I just have
24:54
to add at this point, and I think you're going
24:56
to really enjoy this, that I have finally listened
24:59
to somebody on a podcast that has about the same,
25:02
if not worse, pronunciation than we have on this
25:05
podcast, which is Steve Quayle. And I fucking
25:09
love that so much. But just the way he talks
25:12
is so funny because he just steamrolls through
25:16
it. Because he so confidently fucks it up. But
25:21
then he goes back and he'll say Nasa. N -A -S
25:25
-A. He started spelling it after that. N -A -S
25:28
-A. He's saying it wrong. And then he talks about
25:31
how one of his friends says that you don't say
25:33
it Nasa. You say it Nasa. And he doesn't know
25:35
that there's so many ways you could pronounce
25:37
it. And he just talks and talks and talks about
25:40
how he's pronouncing it wrong. That part was
25:43
actually so funny to me. But he just kept fucking
25:46
upwards. Left and right. He was saying things
25:49
in different languages and he was just butchering
25:51
it, but he just steamrolls through it with confidence.
25:54
And he also kept referring to L .A. Marzulli
25:57
as Lynn Marzulli. I had no idea his first name
26:02
was Lynn. That's beautiful. I don't know that
26:05
it is, to be honest with you. I honestly think
26:08
he was getting it wrong, but I don't know. I
26:11
can't talk on that. I just wanted to share that
26:14
kind of experience with you of listening to him.
26:17
He's on so many coast to coast. I can definitely,
26:21
definitely see why they have him repeatedly back
26:25
as a guest on Coast to Coast AM. Well, and George
26:28
has three hours, five days a week to fill. Yeah.
26:31
If he can. I wonder if we could get on this.
26:34
Get somebody who just like fill an hour of it
26:36
and he hasn't had to do anything. Oh, very little
26:38
work. You'll do it. Yeah. Incredible. this someone
26:42
like this thrives I was just taken aback at how
26:47
he doesn't stumble on anything and how like yeah
26:50
he fucks up the words but does he have a list
26:53
he knows his stuff it's crazy the way he just
26:57
goes off and it's not tangents it's just this
27:00
topic this topic it's all different stuff all
27:03
together he does talk about different themes
27:06
other than giants it's probably everything conspiracy
27:10
themed he has a heavy heavy reliance on biblical
27:14
literalism especially genesis 6 but also in literally
27:19
every single thing he talks about all comes back
27:23
to the bible fallen angels and the humans they
27:26
had sex with made giants he blends ancient astronaut
27:30
theory apocalyptic christianity conspiracy culture,
27:34
alternative archaeology, and he uses a tone of
27:38
urgency. The truth is being hidden. Time is running
27:41
out. The elites know. I listened to a recent
27:44
interview and it was all doom and gloom for AI,
27:47
which I can get behind, but I just love how it
27:50
was presented. First, it started off with the
27:53
AI bubble and how everyone's money is invested
27:56
into AI right now when it's going to create an
27:58
economic collapse, and somehow it turned into
28:01
Google running tests and experiments. experimenting
28:03
with AI and they're stumbling into other dimensions
28:06
and paranormal entities and giants. And it just
28:09
gets so unhinged without any examples to be heard
28:13
of or like, where is it coming from? But I guess
28:16
he doesn't have to prove any of that. No, that's
28:19
the beautiful thing. Nor can he. He's not an
28:21
archaeologist either. So he's not like going
28:23
out there looking for anything. It just got so
28:26
crazy. Like, how did it turn into that? transhumanism,
28:30
and genetic engineering. A significant portion
28:32
of his modern work warns against the dangers
28:35
of AI, robotics, and CRISPR technology, which
28:38
he views as a resurgence of the fallen angel
28:41
interference mentioned to the Bible. On that
28:44
topic, another interview that I was listening
28:46
to today, he's talking about DNA and cloning.
28:49
They have copies of Hitler, Genghis Khan, Attila
28:52
the Hun. DNA they aren't afraid to use and to
28:56
reanimate. I, I just, yeah. Advanced ancient
29:03
civilizations. He posits that ancient ruins,
29:06
megaliths, were built by these giants and that
29:08
modern science is actively suppressing evidence
29:11
of their existence. He did talk about the Bosnian
29:14
pyramids in one of the podcasts I listened to.
29:18
Geopolitics and weather warfare. He frequently
29:20
discusses black ops projects, claiming that certain
29:23
natural disasters are actually the result of
29:26
man -made weather modification or secret technology.
29:30
Oh man, Chelsea. You just made me realize that
29:32
we should have probably included that Bosnian
29:34
Pyramid guy as an asshole. Oh, no. I forgot about
29:39
him entirely. Put him on the list for next year.
29:43
Yeah. He talked about Hollow Earth. He talked
29:47
about Admiral Byrd. He talks about not... There's,
29:51
I don't think, anything under the conspiracy
29:53
umbrella that he wouldn't touch. And this list
29:56
probably doesn't include it all. He talks about
29:58
Gilgamesh. Was a giant that was found in Iraq.
30:02
That's another episode probably. Is that not
30:05
the Kandahar giant by chance? I don't think so.
30:07
I really don't think it is. Maybe it was. I don't
30:11
know. Hard to say. We can't figure it out now.
30:13
It's too late. It's already in the episode. I
30:16
think you can tell from all of this that the
30:19
narrative style of Stephen Quayle is dramatic,
30:22
prophetic, absolutist. He presents speculation
30:26
as revelation and often uses anecdotal or unverifiable
30:31
sources. As he said, get off your keister and
30:34
Google it. Or else you're the government. He
30:37
is very, and this is probably the term that you
30:40
heard me use with Stephen Greer because I was
30:43
confusing him with Stephen Greer. that he's a
30:46
fear monger. And I always used to say that about
30:49
Stephen. To be fair, Stephen Greer is also a
30:51
fear monger. Not as bad as Stephen Quayle. Stephen
30:54
Quayle is literally in every sentence, we are
30:56
going to die like tomorrow. By gold. Yeah, exactly.
31:00
And it is very dramatic. It is, it could, I could
31:05
see it being alarming for some people to listen
31:07
to just for how much fear mongering he puts into
31:11
this stuff. For people probably to have that
31:14
reaction. to go and buy his gold or his prepper
31:17
stuff of whatever he's selling. And I'd be interested
31:20
to actually look at how much he makes off that.
31:23
I didn't actually look to see if I could find
31:26
that. He's helped popularize the modern giant
31:29
subgenre in fringe media, probably even more
31:33
than L .A. Marzulli. This is, I think, giants
31:36
are his major claim to fame. Not that he doesn't
31:39
talk about everything. And he's influenced prepper
31:42
culture and alternatives. christian prophecy
31:44
circles as with any he has a whole lack of evidence
31:49
his claims about giants suppressed archaeology
31:53
and ancient tech lack verifiable sources Critics
31:57
argue he relies on circular citations and unverifiable
32:00
anecdotes. He is accused of exaggerating threats
32:05
of economic collapse, global conspiracies. I
32:08
mean, that's all part of the game to sell books,
32:10
DVDs, and survival gear. Critics note his messaging
32:14
often uses fear to drive engagement and purchases.
32:18
It's a huge theme in every single interview.
32:22
It's just a part of his shtick. He's a fear monger.
32:25
One of his interviews from back in 2015, he literally
32:28
said, today is Sunday. Tomorrow, Monday is a
32:33
holiday and the entire banking system is going
32:36
to collapse tomorrow. They're going to say to
32:39
be patient with it. The bank is going to come
32:41
back online, but it will never come back online.
32:43
This is literally something still out there from
32:46
2015. He literally said tomorrow this is going
32:49
to happen. You got to love that these guys, because
32:51
they're fear mongering so much. Yeah. Like they
32:54
don't get punished for being wrong. I know. Because
32:57
they're speaking to the like a weird agreed to.
33:00
fear of everybody who's listening to them. So
33:03
even if they're wrong, it's still justified.
33:05
Yeah, and you know what? They're in a community
33:07
that, as far as I'm concerned at this point,
33:11
where being wrong doesn't really matter. It doesn't
33:16
impact you, no, so long as you just don't address
33:18
it. Exactly. And you'll still get asked back
33:21
on shows just because people in the conspiracy
33:25
community just want to... They want confirmation
33:28
and, well, they want two things. They want confirmation
33:30
and they want somebody who will fill time for
33:33
their show. That's true, because some of these
33:36
shows, I mean, there's only so many guests they
33:39
can get on. Yeah, so the community's weird. His
33:43
prediction was literally the next day, and here
33:46
I am in 2026. It didn't age well, obviously,
33:49
but yet he's still doing interviews, probably
33:52
saying the same thing to this day, that the world's
33:55
going to end tomorrow. His documentaries and
33:57
books present speculation as fact, making it
34:00
difficult for his audiences to distinguish entertainment
34:03
from audience. evidence which is basically most
34:07
things in this community again his work is often
34:10
cited with fringe communities as proof creating
34:13
a self -reinforcement belief loop again something
34:17
very common in this community why does he matter
34:21
at all i mean he's definitely serving an audience
34:27
that just consumes the stuff and wants more of
34:32
it. He's a bridge figure between Christian prophecy,
34:36
ancient mysteries, conspiracy culture, survivalism.
34:39
He helped shape the modern giants mythos. If
34:43
Quayle wasn't so heavy into the fear mongering,
34:46
I would say that he is the stereotypical conspiracy
34:50
dude who just spews out all of the buzzwords
34:52
and the conspiracy theory and fringe community
34:55
love to hear. So that's Stephen Quayle. What
34:59
do you think? I mean, he's nothing special. No,
35:03
he's really not. It's really just a, not quite,
35:07
but almost an Alex Jones who didn't have his
35:11
own radio show. Yeah. And had to rely on other
35:14
people's shows. He does have it now. He does,
35:17
but it's still not as big. So he would still
35:19
have to rely on going on other people's shows.
35:20
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's exactly it. I think
35:23
the biggest thing that sets him apart as far
35:27
as... being an asshole is concerned is the fear
35:31
mongering and that to me i just don't like i
35:35
find it gross that that's a part of his sales
35:40
drive yeah his tactics and that's that whole
35:43
thing like you gold isn't sold by stability gold
35:48
is sold through fear and changes like significant
35:51
changes Yeah, so I mean, I find that contributes
35:55
a lot to the asshole factor about him, but...
35:59
Yeah, I mean, he's kind of a little bit unremarkable
36:02
other than that. Yeah, I don't know. He's very
36:06
clearly like meshed at the very right time. Christianity
36:10
with conspiracy and prepping. Yeah, I think it's
36:14
funny. It just seems like it was the perfect
36:15
timing for that. I think the Christianity works
36:18
the best for him. Not in my opinion. I just mean
36:21
like towards what he's doing with giants. But
36:25
he kind of brings it into anything. And that's
36:27
also really off. thing about him as well yeah
36:30
oh man yeah I'm sure you didn't come across it
36:34
but I think I should just check did he have anything
36:36
to say about the Smithsonian nothing that I actually
36:40
listened to or looked into actually goes anywhere
36:43
it's just like he'll say the Smithsonian he'll
36:47
mention it'll come up but it's never more than
36:50
surface level And maybe if you buy his DVDs or
36:55
something, maybe he goes into more detail, but
36:57
nothing ever goes very deep with what he's saying.
37:00
He just, that's all it is. Nothing is ever research
37:03
or anything. Or nothing goes past the surface
37:06
level either from that. Yeah. And it's funny
37:09
how somebody who's cynical can get away with
37:11
that a little better and still sound smart. If
37:13
you're on the positive side of things, unless
37:15
you're belittling the other side, you have to
37:17
be able to go at least a little further. yeah
37:20
wow okay so yeah i did want to share something
37:24
to take us out this is a recording from coast
37:29
to coast am an interview with george nori i just
37:33
think it's a perfect way to go out so let me
37:35
oh i'm still sharing my screen with you yes okay
37:39
so i'm just gonna play it it's titled okay no
37:42
i'm not gonna share the title just listen okay
37:45
so the reason it's had red hair. This is important.
37:48
The giants worldwide seem to have red hair. And
37:50
I want to make a clarification, George, because
37:52
I'm getting some emails. It's not the giants
37:54
that had sex with earth women producing giants.
37:58
It was the fallen angels who could, if you will,
38:00
shapeshift. The giants were the offspring, right?
38:03
The giants were the offspring. So people are
38:05
saying, well, they'd split the women open. Well,
38:07
that's what happened when many of the women gave
38:11
birth to the giants. They died in childbirth.
38:13
And the thing that's important is it's the fallen
38:15
angels who can change their size and i'm not
38:19
just talking about the reproductive size i'm
38:21
talking about their literal physical size because
38:23
they seduced the women and obviously most women
38:27
aren't going to run up to a giant that's going
38:29
to split them open if they have all right steve
38:31
let's let's pass on that stuff you got okay A
38:35
little bit too graphic for us. Joe in Monterey,
38:39
California. Go ahead, Joe. Great pushback, George.
38:43
Yeah. You always know what to do. He always knows
38:46
what to do. Anyhow, that's my Stephen Quayle
38:50
episode. Awesome. And with that, I have been
38:54
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