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Twenty Seconds to ISS · Made of Stars

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Warning. The following podcast contains an entertaining look at astronomy, physics, and
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space news throughout the known universe. Listeners have been known to learn about astronomical
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phenomenon, the scientific method, and expanded vocabulary to include terms like quasar asterism
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and uranus. Listen, that's your own risk. Go ahead. When made
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of stars, made them stars, mad sizes? When made of stars,
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you could be from high they would new Mexicomas. Where are stars? When
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we are made of stars? I'm Wes Carol, joined by my good friend
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doctor Sean Cruising from Columbus State Universities Coca Cola Space Science Center. Morning,
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Shawn, Well, that's good to be here, all right. We had
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it was going to be a busy day for the National Space Station with two
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launches that were headed for the ISS. As of right now, one of
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them had to abort this morning. The other is still scheduled to launch later
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today. Let's start with Ross Cosmos. Yeah, so, the first of
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the two launches on the same day to the International Space Station was slated for
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the afternoon hours. If you're in the time zone in Biken or but here
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in the United States on the Eastern time zone, it was at nine to
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twenty one this morning. And you know, my friend Scott Norman here at
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Space Science, our space estorian and lead educator. He and I watch a
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launch, a lot of these launches together, and it just feels like every
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time we either watch a launch or we watched some vehicle that's trying to land
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on the surface of the boon, anytime we're watching it in the same room,
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we just have a j and we just kill it. I don't know
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why. We've just seen so many things go wrong. And I even mentioned
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to him this morning that perhaps we shouldn't watch this launch together, but he
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said, no, no, come on, in this is This is not
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a landing on the Moon. It's just a launch of a rocket. And
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yet trouble hit so exactly, the very reliable Soy used vehicle, which normally
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launches with nary a problem this morning, just twenty seconds before liftoff, had
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an automatic abort and the mission was scrubbed for today. The investigation is still
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ongoing as to what was the cause of the abort. But this is that
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system that is monitoring the vehicle itself and all of the fuel and the engines
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and all the vital systems that can shut a launch down quicker than human beings
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can. If parameters get out of alignment and they and they see that they
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are out of spec of the computers just are able to shut the launch down
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to maintain the safety of the astronauts. So that's what happened today. And
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I say astronauts. This was actually a mission that had one NASA astronaut,
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a named Tracy Dyson, and two people from well the former Soviet Union cosmonaut
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Olegg Navitski who was the Russian cosmonaut, and then from Belarus Marina Basilovskaya and
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Marina Vasilovskaya was listed as a spaceflight participant. Now, you and I have
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had discussions on this show about commercial astronauts and whether they should be called astronauts,
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and what the astronauts think about calling commercial spaceflight participants astronauts and things like
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that. Marina Bellisovskaya was chosen to go on this flight by an organization called
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the Belarusian Women in Space Program, and it is a program in Belarus to
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encourage females to go into technical careers, into stem fields, that kind of
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thing, and they wanted to do so by inspiring women by allowing them to
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see a female what amounts to cosmonaut coming from Belarus and flying to space.
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So they did a selection program. Marina the Silvskaia is a flight attendant.
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She's also a flight instructor for Belarus Airlines, so she is a not just
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you know, serving coffee and maintaining safety. She also knows how to fly
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the aircraft itself and trains other people to do so. So this was part
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of why she won her bid to be chosen as the Belarusian woman in space,
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the first of these spaceflight participants chosen from this program. But she would
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also become the first female to fly in space from Belarus, so there was
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you know, there's a lot on the line today, but the scrub but
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anyway, and it's okay. It's better to scrub a vehicle that potentially have
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a safety problem if they can get things sorted out. Their next earliest launch
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window to go from the bike in our cosmodrome up to the International Space Station
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will be Saturday. That's March if you're listening anyway, So if they launch
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on that day, they will arrive and dock with the International Space Station on
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Monday, March twenty five, Okay, so we talk about the training and
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the preparation and how astronauts are just built differently mentally, how it's just it's
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a different sort of human being that does this. They get on board,
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they face difficulties and complications a different way than most people. They're trained for
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it. It's a lot of training that they go through to be ready for
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just about anything, whether it's Neil Armstrong's adjustment on the fly to land on
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the Moon or you know, the whole Apollo thirteen mission. So many things
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that they are all prepared for, just at a different level than everyone else.
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All Right, And we talk about this idea of spaceflight participant versus astronaut
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or cosmonaut. In this case, I would imagine that Tracy Dyson and Oleg
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Novitski approaching this from the very well trained mindset versus a spaceflight participant who is
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sitting there with twenty seconds to go, excited anticipating this launch. And it
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was probably a very different reaction for her at the want while point at twenty
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seconds to go. I'm just trying to imagine what the adrenaline drop off and
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disappointment must have been. I mean, you know, it has to be
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right, because even eager, if you are among the highly trained of astronauts,
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if it's your first flight to space. I've just heard enough interviews and
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discussions among astronauts, but I know that that first flight to space means something
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right, and it's it's it's a little bit more of a should we say,
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uncertain time for you as compared to a veteran astronaut who's been a space
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This particular flight this would have been the fourth trip to iss for Nibitski,
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the third trip for Dyson, but the very first trip for obviously our space
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flight participant from uh Kaya. So so you can imagine, like, you
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know, the looking around the inside of this capsule, going, is this
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supposed to happen? But where's the kaboom? It was supposed to be an
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earth shattering kaboom? Why why doesn't that come? And and I don't know
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if you have ever been on a flight that was coming in for a landing
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and then suddenly pulled back up rapidly, It just that makes me think,
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WHOA what happened? Again? I start looking out the window, right,
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So, so it's like we just did something that was unexpected. Well,
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so imagine that so yeah, I imagine that there was a little uncertainty and
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a little anxiety. It'll be in to see in the media, uh,
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if they allow her to comment on that, and and we'll see what she
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has to say about that kind of an experience. You would think too,
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that maybe the others might have picked up on a few things that were being
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discussed as they're talking about and they're doing the checklist down, maybe some things
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they might have recognized as we might have a problem here that maybe she wouldn't
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have picked up on. But either way, it had to be a big
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disappointment for her, and now she gets to begin the whole process all over
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again. So that's another part of this that that begins again as they get
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ready for this next opportunity. So that one was a no go, and
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now SpaceX gets ready to give their sh a being what would have been the
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second launch that would have been heading to the ISS, so now it will
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be first, assuming that it launches today at about five o'clock Eastern time.
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Yeah, that's exactly right. One last thought on the other is simply that
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you know, there's gonna be some anxiety just because there wasn't the first time.
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Right now, she has to get back on that vehicle knowing that it
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aborded the last time, right, So I imagine that there's some added anxieties
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there, although, as you say, people who are selected for space are
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selected for a reason, and even these space flight participants, this is not
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someone who's paying her own way, actually had to go through a vetting process
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and she's been training, so there's a fair amount of training anyway, and
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so I would imagine that, you know, there's a fair amount of confidence
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in a person like that, but it still has to be in the back
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of your mind, shall we say, as you board that rocket for a
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second time, knowing that the last time had some sort of fuel or engine
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of sequence kicking in the last twenty seve ready to go to space. Well
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that's a little unnerving, sure, And like you pointed out, I mean
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being on a plane that's about to land and then pulls back up again.
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It's eventually got to land again, and you kind of in the back of
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your mind are thinking, wait a minute, why didn't we land the last
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time? Was there a problem with the windshield? Like what what's the because
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that's always what I think. Was there an issue with the landing gear?
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Is it gonna come down this time? All of those things run through your
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mind. That's the one that gets me is like, did the wheels come
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down or did they lock in place? Are we okay with our wheels?
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Was the wing flopping just a little bit too much? Like maybe a bolt
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came out and they wanted to check that before they came back around? Okay,
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all of those things. Yes, always a concern when you have that
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in the back of your mind. Plus, you know, now she goes
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through the hole, like, well, all right, let's let's rebegin this
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process of mentally getting ready to go do this again. Yeah, exactly.
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Well, I can tell you who doesn't have to do that. It's all
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the it's all twinkies and cupcakes that are aboard a cargo mission up to the
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International Space Station. They have very little to reconsider because after all, their
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twinkies and cupcakes, you know, so they're not really thinking about their whether
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it's the first like the space or not, you know that kind of thing.
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They're just twinkies and cupcakes. And so there's a whole cargo they loaded
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aboard a Dragon to spacecraft down at the it's near the Kennedy Space Center.
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But it's not the Kennedy Space Center. It's the Space Forces keep Canaveral launch
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Pad forty or the thirtieth cargo mission to the Space Station or SpaceX is about
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ready to go. So this is all important stuff. There's about six thousand
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pounds of twinkies and cupcakes, you know, a loaded aboard that vehicle,
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ready to go up to the International Space Station. There probably is a science
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or experiment or two in there somewhere. You know, there's probably some important
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science y kind of things on board, but mostly twinkies and cupcakes. I
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would guess that's what astronauts about that for all. So so anyway, so
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that is slated to be the second flight today, and as you pointed out
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moments ago, now it'll be the first flight today if it goes it.
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Launchtime is at four fifty five pm Eastern time, and so we'll see later
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on today if this is going to go up again. If you're listening in
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the future, you already know this. So congratulations you are in my friends.
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But it is splated if it launches on time to dock with the International
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Space Station's Harmony module on Saturday morning at about seven thirty am. So that'll
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be the dock time, and it'll be guided in by Laurel O'Hara and Michael
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Barrett, who are NASA astronauts up there aboard the International Space Station. They'll
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be overseeing the docking process. They will be likely the first ones to open
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the doors and access the twinkies and peptics, and you know, if they
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tuck a few away to you know, protect money from the other astronauts.
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I don't really know how that works, but you know they'll they'll have first
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crack at the twinkies and cupcakes, and you know as well, they absolutely
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should have a first crack at them if they're going to be the ones that
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are overseeing the docking process. I mean that seems like a natural perk of
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the job, right I think so, if you're the one actually, you
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know, berthing the vehicle and docking it and making sure it's safe, you
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get to be the first one to open the doors and there's that box of
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you know, space twinkies right there, just ready to go. I mean,
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you've got first crack. You have earned the right. In my opinion,
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I don't make space policy, but in my opinion that that's the way
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it should work all right. So space exis Starship we know has had its
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varying levels of successes along the way from getting off the ground to having a
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slightly better takeoff to a better takeoff. It actually, you know, touched
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space. So now they're in this phase of getting ready to fly again and
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hopefully have one better. They want to have those improvements as they go along.
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So Starship's getting ready to fly again, maybe even sooner than we expected.
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Yeah, So announcement at a conference called the Satellite twenty twenty four conference
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in Washington, BC a couple of days ago. As we're recording this podcast
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March nineteenth, Gwinn Shotwell, who was the president and chief operating officer of
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SpaceX, had a few quotes. And by the way, this is pause
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for a moment. I know that he Elon Musk tends to be, at
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least in terms of the view for the media, tends to be a fairly
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hands on owner of SpaceX, kind of like Jerry Jones with some professional football
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team that we know about. Seems to be a little bit hands on.
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But I will tell you that Gwinn Shotwell, the president and CEO of the
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COO rather of SpaceX, is a really important figure in how SpaceX operates,
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their planning, their success along the way, and so I think maybe in
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terms of just the way SpaceX is perceived, perhaps Gwinn Shotwell rarely gets enough
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credit for the various successes that SpaceX has, So we don't want to do
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that on our podcast. So I'm going to just say, by the way,
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Gwenn, we know you were playing a vital role and an important leadership
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function in how SpaceX performs and the amazing successes that they have, So let's
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just throw it out, throw that out really quickly. So anyway, gwyn
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Shotwell was at this conference in Satellite twenty twenty four in DC a couple of
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days ago and said this The company was still reviewing the data from the vehicle's
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third integrated launch on March fourteenth, but expected to be ready to fly again
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soon. Quote. We're still going through the data, she said, when
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asked about the analysis from the flight. And the next quote is quote,
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it was an incredibly successful flight. We hit exactly where we wanted to go.
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Unquote. I think that's really important because that opens the curtain that we've
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discussed many times on the show about the way that SpaceX does their engineering,
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which is the agile development process. And so you said moments ago, they've
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had vurying levels of success. I agree with that, but their variations have
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been systematic in the sense that each flight is better. Right, It's not
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like, oh, we had a good flight and we had a bad flight,
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and we had another good flights another bad flight. No. No,
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each time their capabilities have grown. And that's the way they do engineering at
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spaces. They will fly a vehicle, they will analyze what happened, what
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went wrong, they will repair those things, fly again and have better success.
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Then they will analyze what went wrong, fly again and have even betterits.
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And that's what's happened on the three flights SpaceX Starship. So there's no
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reason to really suspect that that wouldn't happen again on the fourth flight of SpaceX
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Starship. Now it's always unknown, you don't know until it flies, all
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those kinds of things. But the fact that they think they can fix the
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problems that happened on the first flight, turn those problems around, be ready
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to fly again in six weeks, which is what Gwen Shotwell said at the
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conference that possibly hopefully ready to fly in about six weeks. That makes that
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early May. It's astounding. No other rocket system in the history of humanity
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has had the kind of engineering turnarounds and improvements on the duty cycle that we
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see from SpaceX. It just hasn't ever been done before. And so,
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you know, during during that recent flight, yeah, the vehicle broke apart
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about sixty five kilometers in altitude, which is get up close to that one
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hundred kilometer uh you know limit for space. The super heavy booster also exploded
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during the final stages of the scent. It didn't make it back down,
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you know, to to where they to where they thought it could possibly land,
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right, and they were going to bring it in under controlled landing,
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but they were going to bring it down the Gulf of Mexico anyway and let
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it splash down. They just wanted to see if they could achieve the speeds
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or slowing it down and possibly landing it vertically in the future. So really
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they pretty much hit their their milestones, which was to get the starship vehicle
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at the speed where it could attain orbit and slow the main booster down to
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the speed where it could possibly do a ground based landing. Even though neither
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of those things were planned for this flight. That's the important thing to keep
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reminding everyone. They didn't plan to do either of those things. So so
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successes all the way around. And again going back to the quote from gwyn
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shotwell, we hit exactly where we wanted to go and they're going to be
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ready to go again six weeks, which is absolutely remarkable. So NASA has
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some budget concerns. They're planning to now shut down one of the great observatories
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because they've got to save some money. Yeah, this is this is actually
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a very sad story. And you just don't ever want to hear of some
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really expensive, properly functioning space telescope type instrument lose its serviceability because well,
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we just want to pay for it anymore. About what you want to hear.
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It takes a lot of time and effort and engineering and the dangers of
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space travel to deploy these very expensive scientific instruments in the orbit the first place,
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or into the various places where they operate, and so once they're there,
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you really just want them to work for as long as they work,
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and the space environment causes them to break down. Okay, we understand that
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every everything has some kind of limited time where it can operate in these hostile
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environments. But to know that the Chanter a observer function and NASA is now
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considering shutting it down just because they don't have enough budget because the United States
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government didn't grant the NASA base agency the money they requested. So it's actually
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a decrease in funding by about two billion dollars, which is a lot for
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NASA. That's a pretty large fraction of their budgets, more than ten percent.
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And so when you look at that kind of a funding shortfall, and
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then the agency has to look around and say, well, we're gonna have
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to make some difficult decisions here. Why don't we just go ahead and kill
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the Chanter X ray observatory. I mean, they have to do something.
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I get it, I understand, but these these long term decisions have consequences
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because it disables a whole function of our astronomical ability. And once again,
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I just hate shutting down working vehicles when they're in orbit. When it took
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so much planning, engineering, construction time money to carry all that out.
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Astronauts flying aboard space shuttles actually deployed the observatory, risking their own lives to
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get it up there in the first place, and we just stay, ah,
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we don't want to fund it anymore. Me personally, I know this
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is a tad editorial. I try to just stay news for the podcast,
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but I just don't like to see this happen. I don't think anyone really
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does. Coming up, after a quick break, we'll talk about the eclipse,
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and of course the start of spring. We'll do that right after this.
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Before we talk about the spring starting officially and the upcoming eclipse. Quickly,
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let's talk about Mars. This is a pretty cool story. Yeah,
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it's a really interesting story. There's a study done by an international team of
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astronomers and planetary scientists, and this study was presented at the fifty fifth Annual
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Lunar and Planetary Conference in Texas a couple of days ago. And basically the
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study is this, they are looking at a very large impact crater up on
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Mars. And because Mars just has less water, wind rain, it has
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no plate tectonics, it has fewer mechanisms to kind of erase the history of
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objects impacting its surface. It's a good place to study to see what happens
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when big objects hit other objects. Right, Because we want to know if
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a big asteroid hits the Earth, what kind of effect that will have on
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us. Well, this is a new study that's leading to a new piece
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of data that says there was a very large asteroid impact on Mars about two
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and a half billion years ago, which is not that long in the history
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of planets, right, compared to the overall age of the planets, which
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is about five billion years two and a half million years ago, just like
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last week anyway, So this is a somewhat recent impact on Mars. And
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the study has shown that that one large asteroid impact threw enough material up into
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the air on Mars that it then resulted in over two billion other smaller impact
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craters from all that material falling back down to the surface of the planet.
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And some of these pieces of what they call ejecta or material thrown off the
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surface landed as much as thirteen hundred miles away. So and again, Martian
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gravity is a little different, the Martian atmosphere is a little different than here
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on Earth, so those wouldn't quite be the same that we would expect on
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Earth with an impact. But listen, friends, from this study, it
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shows us clearly that there will be one area highly affected by an asteroid impacting
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the surface of Earth, but there will be a much much broader area affected
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and directly impacted by all of the debris thrown into the air during the collision
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that comes back down and makes its own set of impact craters and impact events.
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So it's kind of like a one two punch. You have the asteroid
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itself impacting the surface, causing mass destruction, but then you have all the
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material that was once on the surface that was thrown into the air, also
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coming back down at high rates of speed, making again on Mars, two
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billion more impacts from this event billions, a big number, by the way,
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friends, it's more than thousands, it's more than millions. It's two
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billion more impacts. That's just an indicator of the kinds of mass destruction that
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could potentially occur here on Earth. Right, So why if we do these
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studies. We do these studies to understand our own environment a little bit better
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and to understand what could happen in cases anything that we could possibly do.
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By the way, a story we didn't talk about this week, which we
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might talk about next week is the fact that our Dart spacecraft, which is
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a test of a planetary defender. If we can find an asteroid far enough
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out that looks like it's going to come and hit the Earth, we can
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send a space vehicle up there and punch it in the eye. Well that's
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basically what the Dark spacecraft did. We just found out a study that it
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actually changed the shape of the asteroid that it impacted. So I had a
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far greater impact on the asteroid than what we were thought. So why are
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we doing those kinds of studies. Well, it's because of this kind of
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study, right, So we do studies on how we can divert asteroids because
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we keep learning more and more about how potentially devastating an asteroid impact could be
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to the surface of the Earth. So that's the story about the two billion
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secondary craters around the Martian impact crater in the Elysium Plenetia up there on the
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service of Parts. And if you don't think you can do a lot of
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damage, just ask the dinosaurs. Oh wait, all right, let's talk
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about the official start of spring, because, and we've discussed this before on
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the show, we have sort of this calendar look at the seasons. So
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by that standard, spring started at the beginning of March right. I mean,
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that's just kind of the way it works. But when we get to
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the official point where you get the day where it's an even amount of light
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and all that, the vernal equinox, which also has happens in autumn as
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well, but that's now officially come and gone, and it happened, I
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guess because of the placement of it this year. It happened on the nineteenth
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instead of normally on the twentieth, but it was late at night on the
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nineteenth. Yeah, here's whe're recording the show. It's just a little bit
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more than twenty four hours ago. But it's important to say, you know,
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the meteorologists love to say, well, that's the astronomical definition for the
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first day of spring. We meteorologists have a different set of dates that we
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described our seasons, both beginning and ending. YadA, YadA, YadA.
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Okay, let me just say from the astronomical point of view, it's not
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really the first day of spring. Friends, I don't know who tag that.
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It's the point where the sun crosses a celestial equator. That's what's actually
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happening. Okay, So the vernal equinox. Equinox literally means equi night.
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In other words, equal hours of daylight and darkness. So that's what happens
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at the vernal equinox. Vernal beans green and that was nicknamed after the fact
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that plants are starting to green up here in the northern hemisphere when this occurs,
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and so it got the name vernal equinox know a long time ago.
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So so equinox literally means equi nite equal hours of daylight and darkness. It's
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the day where the sun crosses the celestial equator moving nord, which means we're
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gonna get more and more sunlight until the summer salstice. The word salstice means
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sun standing still. That's the day where the sun quits traveling north at least
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in our selectial cordin system, and starts to head back south again. And
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so here on Earth, these are observer related events. This is how we
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see the sky operating, and so equinox again, we call it the first
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day of spring. Merologists have been arguing about while their calendar, and actually
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I kind of agree with them. Really it's almost like the middle of spring.
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I get it, okay, But really, from an astronomical point of
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view, it's the day the sun makes a very important crossing of a coordinate
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on the sky called the solution. All right, don't I don't know that
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I've ever thought about this before. But you you talk about this, and
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you're describing this for the northern hemisphere. So is it is it flip flopped
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in the southern hemisphere? Do they refer to our autumnal equinox as they're vernal
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or do they just use the same terms that we do? So so,
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typically what happens is these things get named from antiquity, and names stick with
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things even when they don't make sense anymore. Gotcha. So this name is
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probably older than you know, the western presence in the continent of Australia in
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the first place, right, Ye, probably trampled with them, And they
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probably use the same terms down south that we use here because of antiquity,
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not because they make sense. I mean, I have people I could ask.
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I just thought I would ask you because I wasn't sure. And you
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talk about things that get named even when they don't make sense anymore, like
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calling the Cowboys the America's team. You know, sometimes things just don't make
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sense anymore. Just to circle back to that Jerry Jones thing, Hey,
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let's talk about the eclipse, cause it's coming up, and I know you're
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gonna have a front row seat for this thing. Yeah, oddly enough,
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it's gonna be in Texas. I wonder if I can get a jersey.
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I don't know. Perhaps, Thank goodness, it's not a Derrick Henry jersey
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that they're going to be selling there. That's all I'm saying. I mean,
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if I could get a Derrick Henry Dallas Cowboys jersey, I would do
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that right now. I would buy that. Yeah, I would keep it
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around for a few years and sell it on eBay. Yeah, maybe I
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would have the only one. I don't know anyway, so I'm not sure.
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I'm not sure. If there's a team called the Waco Cowboys, I
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don't really know. But that's where I'm going to be. I'm going to
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Waco, friends, because I'm going to get in the path of totality for
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the April eighth Eclipse, the Great American Eclipse, the second one of those,
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by the way, and just very short time. The last one occurred
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back in the year twenty seventeen. Now Here we are in twenty twenty four,
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just just seven years later, and we're going to have another eclipse transversing
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the continent of North America, and I intend to be right in the path
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of that totality in Waco, Texas, and I will be you talking a
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lot about that, probably on podcasts before and after the eclipse. But the
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important part is, no matter where you are, make sure that if you're
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going to view the total eclipse or a partial portion of the eclipse, that
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you do so with the proper safety techniques. You still have time right now
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as of the recording of this podcast to order the proper safety glasses online.
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Make sure they have the proper verified ISO ratings making them safe. You don't
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want to buy cheap knockoffs that potentially don't protect your eyes. Look for that
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ISO rating. You know, there's there's a lot of good vendors out there
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that are selling those glasses. But again, the ISO rating will be printed
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right on the glasses. Assure yourself that you have the proper glasses if you're
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using those or There are a variety of other techniques by which serve the eclipse.
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One of those is a pinhole projection system. That's the easiest, cheapest
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way to do that. Another one is to take a pair of binoculars but
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do not look through the binoculars. Let the light from the eclipse shine through
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the binoculars and project onto a wall or a piece of poster board. And
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that's another pretty good way to do it because you can just look at the
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projection. But again, if you have small children around, just make sure
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they can't accidentally get their eyes into that light path through the binoculars. Yeah.
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So anyway, research online these various techniques for observing the eclipse safely and
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make sure that you take part of that. I know, the Cocola Space
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Science Center. You guys have another music under the Dome coming up that first
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Tuesday of April, April the second. It's a new music under the Dome
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and it's new not just because it's different musicians and artists, but also because
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we have a brand new planetarium. Projections are on the Spear Theater. It
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was just installed last week. This week as we're recording this podcast on the
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twenty first of March here on a Thursday, we are in our first week
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of operation and are so far our audiences are loving the new planetarium projection system
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in our on Spear Theater from the sub Corporation. It's a digit Star seven,
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which doesn't mean a lot to a lot of people, but we once
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we used to have a DIGITSAR four, so the upgrade came from a DIGITSAR
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four system with twenty five year old projectors to now a digit Star seven system
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with five week old so we have moved into the current millennium. We're happy
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to do that and I'm very excited to show audiences the new images up on
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our atmosphere. Theater don't so if you haven't had a chance to come down
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to see the atmosphere, you won't know how much it is. So let
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me just tell you you'll get this really cool show inside the offmosphere. To
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check it out. If you want to know the showtimes, visit our website
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www dot cc s SC dot org. And yes, Music under the Dome
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is currently a sold out concert for April second, but we do allow some
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tickets to be sold night of the concert at the door. You can check
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out the information for Music under the Dome, which will feature our new planetarium
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projection system. Check it all out of the website. Once again, visit
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www dot cc SSC dot org. Charlie Charlie SamSam Charlie dot org and that
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