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I Am All In…Again: Paris is Burning (Season 3 E16 “The Big One”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in again.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, let's just do h.
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  Speaker 1: I am all in again with Scott Patterson in iHeartRadio Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I'm all in Podcast. One of
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  Speaker 1: them productions. iHeartRadio Media. iHeart Podcast. Another recap here seeing
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  Speaker 1: three episodes sixteen and we have the Big One. That
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  Speaker 1: is the name of the episode air date February twenty fifth,
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and three. We're joined by Justin Urik. It's
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  Speaker 1: an actor in multiple worlds, big name TV shows the
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  Speaker 1: late nineties, early two thousands, er West Wing, Once and Again, CSI,
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  Speaker 1: and one episode of Gilmour Girls as Dean's friend in
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  Speaker 1: his bachelor party. He owns multiple restaurants in southern California,
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  Speaker 1: one called Mama Said Yes and the other Naluvida. Justin
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 2: God, thank you very much for having me. I'm thrilled
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  Speaker 2: to be here today.
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  Speaker 3: And unfortunately I was only in one episode of gilmore
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  Speaker 3: Girls because I had a fantastic time on set.
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  Speaker 2: But it is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: That is one more episode than most people on the planet.
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  Speaker 3: I still it's funny, even from that one a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of an episode. I still get fan mail from
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  Speaker 3: time to time for Gilmore Girls, which I find amazing.
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  Speaker 1: And from all of the residual checks, you saved up
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  Speaker 1: and bought a couple of restaurants, build up a restaurant.
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  Speaker 3: It's funny that you say residual check because I think
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  Speaker 3: I just got one last week from the Gillmore Girls,
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  Speaker 3: and I think eleven cents.
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  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, sometimes there are eleven cents. Yes, this is true.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Here's a synopsis for this episode. It's a big Rory
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  Speaker 1: in Paris episode. If you're fans of Rory and powers us.
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  Speaker 1: They compete for a big speech but end up having
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  Speaker 1: to work together, and Paris spills the big news about
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  Speaker 1: her personal life on c SPAN. Lareli runs into Max
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  Speaker 1: Medina and Suki and Jackson are pregnant. Directed by Jamie Babbitt,
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  Speaker 1: Written by Amy Shern Palladino. Overall, what do you think
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  Speaker 1: of this episode?
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  Speaker 2: Justin you know, it's funny.
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  Speaker 3: Rewatching it, it gave me a lot of anxiety. I've
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  Speaker 3: got I've got kids. I've got a five year old,
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  Speaker 3: I've got a nine year old and an eleven year old.
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  Speaker 3: They're all boys, so a little bit different, but seeing
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  Speaker 3: the angst that occurred with kids and teenagers and you know,
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  Speaker 3: what is important in their life versus what's important their parents' life,
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  Speaker 3: and all the pressure that they.
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  Speaker 2: Had on them.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it was it was a little uncomfortable to
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  Speaker 3: watch because being a father and like if I'm projecting
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  Speaker 3: things on my parents, because clearly, you know, she had
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  Speaker 3: a she had a full on breakdown, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: at the beginning of the episode, you see that she's
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  Speaker 3: been so cruel to her and there's there's always a
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  Speaker 3: reason why kids are cruel, and we find out at
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  Speaker 3: the end is because I mean, it's it's unfortunate.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, she exposed herself on c Span.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm when you're talking about Paris not getting into
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  Speaker 1: Harvard and ye and uh over overreacting. Yeah, uh, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, I'm right there with you. I was stressed
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  Speaker 1: out watching this episode a little bit. It was a
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  Speaker 1: bit of an uncomfortable watch for me.
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  Speaker 2: Scott. Do you have kids, Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 1: Have a son. I have an eleven year old son. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so so so Yeah. It all fed into that too,
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  Speaker 1: and it was just like, yeah, it may.
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  Speaker 3: It made me rethink of, uh, you know, what is
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  Speaker 3: important and you know, not projecting too many of my
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  Speaker 3: my goals, onto my onto.
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  Speaker 2: My kids, because I was sure I never want them
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  Speaker 2: to have a breakdown like that. Right.
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  Speaker 3: You know, with social media today and in a public forum,
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  Speaker 3: things can be released a heck of a lot faster.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta let them find their own talent, their
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  Speaker 1: own thing. You know, they'll they'll find it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you get you give him the space and they'll find it.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's got something, and you know I got lucky. Nick
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  Speaker 1: found his very early in life. And he's he's just
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  Speaker 1: full steam ahead.
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  Speaker 2: Man is baseball?
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, oh no, I'm just seeing a lot of
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  Speaker 3: baseball pictures in the background here.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, that that was my past. That's
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  Speaker 1: not going to be his future. No. He's robotics. He's
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  Speaker 1: full on robotics. He's like a competitive robotics I mean
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  Speaker 1: globally competitive robotics.
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  Speaker 2: Really awesome.
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  Speaker 1: He's kind of he's kind of a star in his
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  Speaker 1: age group. By the way, he's kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Known bragging bragging about the sun.
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  Speaker 1: You got a couple of days. I'll talk about him
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  Speaker 1: for a couple of days. I'm very we're very proud of,
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  Speaker 1: very very proud of. Anyway, back to the show speech, contest.
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  Speaker 1: Paris wants to win very badly, even though it's not
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  Speaker 1: going to affect any admissions considerations from Harvard Yale Princeton,
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  Speaker 1: and she wants already ren Rory to enter as well
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  Speaker 1: so she can beat her. And the winner is going
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  Speaker 1: to be on c Span. Uh, and Paris is kind
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  Speaker 1: of running everybody down, trying to psych everybody out in
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  Speaker 1: her usual Paris style, even Brad who is back from Broadway. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And Headmister Charleston is ultimately impressed with with both essays.
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  Speaker 1: Uh and because it was an essay contest about the
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  Speaker 1: bi centennial.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, I love that he that he forced them
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  Speaker 3: to do it together and and and made them recognize
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  Speaker 3: that they were both equally talented and to see how
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  Speaker 3: they they work together as a team.
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  Speaker 1: I found it interesting that the you know, the actor
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  Speaker 1: portraying Headminister Charleston, knew that it was obviously a train
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  Speaker 1: wreck to put those two together, but he couldn't act
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  Speaker 1: that way. Well. So anyways, he calls them both. They
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  Speaker 1: both win, and he wants them to combine their speech
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  Speaker 1: and give it in front of these she Span cameras
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  Speaker 1: that are coming to the school to set up so
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  Speaker 1: Paris comes over to work with Rory and then they
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  Speaker 1: have a heart to heart about boys and she apologizes
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  Speaker 1: for mistreating everybody. And then Lorela I overhears the conversation
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  Speaker 1: these two are having that that Rory indeed is kept
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  Speaker 1: her virginity.
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  Speaker 2: She was very proud.
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  Speaker 1: She was very proud mom, you know, justin there's so
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  Speaker 1: much hostility with Paris in the past few episodes, but
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  Speaker 1: we we finally get to see a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a softer side.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we're getting we're getting to.
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  Speaker 1: The root finally, right, Yeah, the stress of why she
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  Speaker 1: is this way? How do you think Rory handled it?
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  Speaker 1: What Pas told.
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  Speaker 2: Her and extremely maturely.
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  Speaker 3: I do too, and and you know, and and being honest,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it falls it falls under the honesty is
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  Speaker 3: the best policy. And she's just very pure and a
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  Speaker 3: great response. And uh, I think that that is where
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  Speaker 3: it opened up their relationship.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm hmm.
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  Speaker 3: You saw the little the blossoming and it just felt like, uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I can trust you with this, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: Paris obviously couldn't trust that with with anyone.
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  Speaker 1: So obviously Laurel I is very relieved that her daughter
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  Speaker 1: isn't getting into any trouble like she did when she
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  Speaker 1: was her age. Uh, so we're not going to have
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  Speaker 1: a repeat. Did you think Laurel I was being too
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  Speaker 1: judgmental towards Paris with that kind of reaction.
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  Speaker 3: I mean maybe it may be a little bit m hm,
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  Speaker 3: but you know, it's it's hard when you when you
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  Speaker 3: have when you're trying to protect someone.
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  Speaker 2: And you, I don't know, parents are rough.
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  Speaker 3: Again, going back to what I'm saying, it's like, I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to be judgmental on my parents, because when
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  Speaker 3: you're when you're being overly judgmental, things occur like what
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  Speaker 3: happened in this episode.
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  Speaker 1: Right well to Laura, l I and Rory, nobody is
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  Speaker 1: not a target for their sense of humor and right wit.
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  Speaker 1: And that takes us into the diner. Luke has printed
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  Speaker 1: new menus, and boy do they take their shots at
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  Speaker 1: him for that. They have a lot of fun together.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they spare no one, no feelings. Just there's
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  Speaker 1: a big discussion about the money. Cristo that's no longer
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  Speaker 1: on the menu. You're a restaurant guy, what'd you think
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  Speaker 1: of this scene?
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  Speaker 3: I you know, I thought it to be very close
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  Speaker 3: to home. You know, I have a lot of both both.
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  Speaker 3: My place has been open for a little bit and
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  Speaker 3: I have a lot of regulars that come in. And
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  Speaker 3: the second that you alter something that you didn't realize
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  Speaker 3: was a fan favorite.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: You you hear, you hear about it.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, and then sometimes you gotta make it just like
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  Speaker 3: just like Luke did right right.
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  Speaker 2: One of it's funny too. It's it's bringing up this
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  Speaker 2: scene specifically.
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  Speaker 3: It it Uh, it's something that I noticed about this.
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  Speaker 2: This also has to just do with the time.
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  Speaker 3: Framing of when Uh, like I say, in the in
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  Speaker 3: the early two thousands, is the way that things were
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  Speaker 3: written and how quickly people spoke. There was there was
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  Speaker 3: a certain cadence and that's so intriguing to to revisit
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  Speaker 3: because everyone was talking.
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  Speaker 2: Boom boom boom, boom, boom boom and.
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  Speaker 3: Taking so many jabs at Luke and the menu. And
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  Speaker 3: I mean it was I could relate to it. It was
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  Speaker 3: very funny.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Kirk is now mail carrier, another job. He's horrible
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  Speaker 1: at it, shocking. He takes for ever and ever separates
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  Speaker 1: the mail. He even takes too long. When Laurel and
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  Speaker 1: Roy are anxiously awaiting her college acceptance letters, or rejections,
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  Speaker 1: whatever they may be. I thought this was a tour
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  Speaker 1: de force for Kirk. He had that great scene and
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  Speaker 1: on the floor of Dosie's groceries he starts, you know,
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  Speaker 1: everybody's kind of bugging them about getting their mail, and
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  Speaker 1: he starts screaming at people. I really enjoyed that stuff,
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  Speaker 1: very funny.
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  Speaker 2: And I feel like it's also within this episode.
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  Speaker 3: He was giving them back what they were giving Luke's
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  Speaker 3: character at the diner as well, So it worked very
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  Speaker 3: well in parallel.
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  Speaker 2: Be careful, be careful what you get because you're going
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  Speaker 2: to receive it, That's right.
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  Speaker 1: So Laurel I runs into Max at the drug store.
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  Speaker 1: Just happened to be at the drug store. Max has
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  Speaker 1: been in Stanford, California and teaching a class at the university,
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  Speaker 1: and he's back in town for the Chiltern By Centennial.
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  Speaker 1: H They run into each other at the bi centennial
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  Speaker 1: as well. She's a little taken aback because he just
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  Speaker 1: seems to have moved on and she seems not to have.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, she runs into him again at the bi
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  Speaker 1: centennial and again more the same. He explains to her
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  Speaker 1: that he's over it and he's had a lot of
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  Speaker 1: time to think, and he's good, he's happy, he's over it.
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  Speaker 1: And then they.
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  Speaker 3: Starting always what well you can't have right right right beckon,
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  Speaker 3: she couldn't have him anymore?
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  Speaker 1: Uh huh uh. And then they run into each other
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  Speaker 1: in the coatroom after the speech and they just start
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  Speaker 1: macking on each other and she says, apparently I'm not
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  Speaker 1: over it, or he says, he says, apparently I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: They broke up. Fans never got closure about why Loralai
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  Speaker 1: called off the wedding. Does this close or open another door?
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  Speaker 3: I think this opens up a whole can of worms,
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  Speaker 3: whole can of worms, a lot of explaining to do.
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  Speaker 1: Max Worms on discount, get your can now, all supplies last?
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  Speaker 2: Uh all three?
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  Speaker 3: But guess what there's gonna have to be a cleanup
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  Speaker 3: and al three if they keep going.
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  Speaker 1: Male worms, all kinds of things on the floor. And
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  Speaker 1: Max shows up for one more episode in nineteen. I
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  Speaker 1: guess episode nineteen that's I guess that's the last we
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  Speaker 1: see a Max anyway, good stuff all the way around.
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  Speaker 1: Sukie's pregnant. She's set because someone set back four dishes
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  Speaker 1: of food and she's freaking out.
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  Speaker 2: It upset me as.
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  Speaker 1: Well yeah, were you Yeah, well yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well being a restaurant owner now, and obviously there was something.
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  Speaker 3: There was something off with her, And of course my
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  Speaker 3: mind went straight to COVID, like.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, she's got COVID. Oh no, we didn't have.
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  Speaker 3: COVID back then, so her taster should be fine. But
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  Speaker 3: obviously her taster was completely off from being pregnant.
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  Speaker 1: I was just hoping she wasn't going to dump yet
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  Speaker 1: another meal in the garbage. You know the episode prior
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  Speaker 1: she was preparing all kinds of food for a golf
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  Speaker 1: themed celebration and then the guy changed his mind last minute.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't want to do golf anymore. So she had
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  Speaker 1: this big golf ball cake and she just dumped it
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  Speaker 1: in the garbage. Looked really tasty. You know. That stressed
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  Speaker 1: me out. It's like good food just getting dumped. No,
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  Speaker 1: don't do that. Share it with the employees, right right. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: she can't taste the food. The food keeps getting sent
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  Speaker 1: back her primo dishes that she's famous for and lauded for,
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  Speaker 1: and she doesn't understand. Then Laurel I goes back to
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  Speaker 1: the end, figures it out. She goes back to her computer,
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  Speaker 1: punches something and it hits her, you're pregnant, there, Suki,
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  Speaker 1: and then Jackson is having a field day with the calculator,
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  Speaker 1: calculating what it's going to cost to have a child.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was a little depressing.
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  Speaker 3: Instead of having the joy of hey, we're prevent we're
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  Speaker 3: excited about this, over calculating mathematic this is what it's
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  Speaker 3: going to cost us, instead of like feeling the joy
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  Speaker 3: of the moments, it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was mighty depressing at the time.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of agree with that.
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  Speaker 2: He comes around though, well, Laurel.
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  Speaker 1: I comes over to see Suki and he's Jackson just
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  Speaker 1: going overboard the stuff. He wants to sell, the truck
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  Speaker 1: he wants to add out of the house, and he
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  Speaker 1: won't drive past like three miles an hour in the
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  Speaker 1: car if he goes, there's a speed but driving her
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  Speaker 1: very crazy look. It's I do not think that this
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  Speaker 1: displayed Melissa's comedy acting the way other episodes have. But
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  Speaker 1: it was pretty good and it's always great to see her.
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  Speaker 1: But I also agree with you, Jackson's reaction was odd.
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  Speaker 1: It was hard to grasp onto for me.
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  Speaker 3: But every everyone is different, you know. I have friends
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  Speaker 3: that are super analytical I'm more.
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  Speaker 2: On the creative side.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, for every one of our pregnancies, it
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  Speaker 3: was just overwhelming joy constantly.
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  Speaker 2: That's why you know.
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  Speaker 3: This episode, this part of the episode made me feel
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  Speaker 3: uncomfortable because that wouldn't have been my reaction. I can,
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  Speaker 3: and obviously Melissa's character, she was very upset about it.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, listen, if he's like this, now, what's
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  Speaker 1: he going to be like when the baby's born, what's
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  Speaker 1: he going to be like when the baby's a year too?
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  Speaker 2: Bubble wrap everywhere in that?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know anyway? All right, So now
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  Speaker 1: we have Now we have Asuki and Jackson going to bed,
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  Speaker 1: and Jackson finally tells her how happy he is about
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  Speaker 1: the pregnancy. Not that you could really tell stupid better
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  Speaker 1: better late than never, right, you know, the winded past.
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  Speaker 1: Get your sale up sooner, pal uh Rory and Larele
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  Speaker 1: I are trying to figure out what Laurel I is
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  Speaker 1: going to do about Max because she doesn't know. What
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  Speaker 1: do you think is gonna happen with Laurel I and Max? Justin?
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  Speaker 1: Because I know this keeps you up at night?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, my I'm assuming that it's just not
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  Speaker 3: gonna last, you know, just a little bit of flicker,
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  Speaker 3: a little flame. You know, it's always fun to rekindle
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  Speaker 3: some some past actions and heartfelt moments, and then then
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  Speaker 3: it falls to the waiside again.
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  Speaker 1: I really like Richard shows up, uh for the event
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  Speaker 1: of the c SPAN presentation. He gives Laurel I a
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  Speaker 1: check to give to Rory. I mean, he's stand up right,
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  Speaker 1: He's he's showing up. He's proud grandpa doing exactly what
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  Speaker 1: he should be doing. I really like seeing that. That
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  Speaker 1: was actually my favorite part of the episode was was
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  Speaker 1: Richard love it? When they show up right? Uh? Then
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  Speaker 1: they walked to the mailbox. They walked to the mailbox
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  Speaker 1: justin could you cut the tension with a knife?
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  Speaker 2: Oh gosh? And he just you know, but they picked
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  Speaker 2: out the big one.
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  Speaker 1: She got the big one in this three she got.
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  Speaker 1: So what do you think the third one was? Because
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  Speaker 1: he got Harvard Yale? What else? What do you think
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  Speaker 1: the third one was? Is it Princeton Cornell? Cornell? I
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  Speaker 1: don't know anybody that knows. If you guys know, tell
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  Speaker 1: us all right, So Paris was like all the map
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  Speaker 1: on this one. We really now we've discussed it. What
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  Speaker 1: did you really think of this episode? Was? Was? Have
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  Speaker 1: you seen all the episodes?
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  Speaker 2: I have not seen all the episodes you've done.
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  Speaker 1: What did you think of this episode now that we've
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  Speaker 1: now that we've discussed it, well.
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  Speaker 3: It was it was uncomfortable to watch and also at
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  Speaker 3: the same time, you know, but I also look at
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  Speaker 3: it in a different manner.
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  Speaker 2: I look at it as as an actor, as an artist,
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  Speaker 2: remembering when I when I was doing.
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  Speaker 3: Television and knowing that you know, the one thing about
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  Speaker 3: the Gilmore Girls, it was one of those shows that
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  Speaker 3: was such a well oiled machine and you could tell
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  Speaker 3: with every shot that was set up. Again when I'm
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  Speaker 3: talking about h the the cadence of how everyone spoke
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  Speaker 3: a lot faster back back in the in the early
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  Speaker 3: two thousands when they were filming.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: But overall the episode itself was it gave me a
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: lot of anxiety.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: I did enjoy I watched it with my wife. We
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: we we enjoyed it together, and then at the end
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: of it we looked, We're like.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Let's just make sure not we're putting that additional pressure
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: on our kids, because I don't want to end up
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: having one of my kids saying that they had sex
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: on c span and.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: They didn't Harvor, right, that would not be good. Okay,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: now it tells us Harvard, Yale, Princeton. So you got
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: into all three, which, justin would you have chosen where
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: you go? You got accepted all three? Where are you going?
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I have to pick one?
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta pick. Well, you can't go to two universities.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, ken you maybe you could. Maybe you
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: can do a couple, you know, semesters in one and
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: then go over to the other.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: That would be very like like do night classes at
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Yale and go to Harvard.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Or I don't know, you know what I think. I
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: think that I would have to go to Harvard.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: You'd go to the Crimson.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Why is that?
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Well?
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Because I I I did a film called how High
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: years ago, a universal picture with method man of Redman,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: and I got to portray that I was a Harvard student.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Oh you were? Did you get to go to Harvard
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: or did you film it out here?
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: No?
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: We cheated in Los Angeles. We cheated USC as Harvard.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: So I guess I would have to pick Harvard because
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: I pretended to go to it, and you know, it'd
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: be fun to do it in real life.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Okay, you're at Harvard.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: You choose Harvard, Harvard Business. Obviously you get an.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: MBA Harvard Business. Yeah, all right, let's talk about you
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Enough about the show. Let's talk about
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: justin just in time.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Now, I'm not that exciting.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: You're very exciting. We're talking about you. Let's go here.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: No, I'm super excited. Well, where would you like me
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: to just tell you a little bit about myself? You've
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: got specific questions.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I got a whole list of questions.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: I want to give them to me, the whole.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: It's like a real show with questions.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: You worked a lot in the nineties to the early
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: two thousand. Tell us about that time in your life.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: What was that like?
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: It was great.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: Actually, I graduated from Hollywood High School and I was
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: going to go to Culinary Institute, and I was in
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: a little acting class.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: At the time. I grew up doing musical theater in
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: New York. I'm from. My father was on Broadway and
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: my mother was off Broadway.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: When we moved to Los Angeles, I got into a
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: little acting class and my very first audition was Er
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: and I booked a guest spot on Er and at
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: that point, I was like, oh, why go to Colion Institute.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to act.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: So I had a lot of fun throughout the late
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: nineties early two thousands, booked a lot of different TV shows,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: made a lot of great friends and relationships. In fact,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Milo vent Emilia, who was on The Gilmore Girls, he
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: and I were roommates for about four years. It's when
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: we were starting our acting career. And I remember when
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: he booked The Gilmore Girls. We were living in our
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: little apartment in Venice.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute, did you just say that you were
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: roommates with Milo for Yeah?
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Milo and I Yeah, dear friends.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, good.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: And we did a couple of television shows together. We
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: were on a couple of pilots together, did a film,
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: two films together, and.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: He kept going. I jumped into post production a little.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: Bit after my acting career, and then after post production,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: I went into hospitality.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: Right and in the hospitality you really did You've got
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: some restaurants?
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: I owned two restaurants, one in Venice Beach called Nalu Vita.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Nalu is Awaiian for wave, Vida is life, so it's
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: a tropical inspired beach bar.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I'm actually at it right now. You see that's a
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: little bit of that.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: And then my place in Torrance is a live music
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: venue called Mom said Yes New York Style Pizza, a
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: little nod to my New York life and you know,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: live music, entertainment line, dancing, karaoke, all that fun stuff.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: And I also founded a little tequila brand called Casa
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Rica Tequila that I've been working on for seven years.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: So do it doing a lot of a lot of
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: things in that space, and uh, continue to grow as
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: an entrepreneur and uh, you know, grow with my family.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Nice. How'd you get the role of Dean's friends on
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls? Jeff? To audition for it?
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: Was?
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: It was yeah, Yeah, I definitely auditioned and I forgot
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: who you were. Who was the casting director.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: At the time, Mark Casey and Jamie Real Mark Casey.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: So Mark Casey, she had already hired me for some
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: some things previously. I came in and had an audition
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: and got got thrown onto the onto the fire.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Oh nice. So what do you remember about your time
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: on set? How many days did you have on set?
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: I was only I was there two days. I was
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: there two days and it was very I remember it
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: being very pleasant and like I said before, a well
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: oiled machine. It was not a whole lot of sitting around.
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, you've been doing this for years, you know
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: how it can be on set. I remember that that
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: set in particular, was so fast paced that they just
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: had it all dialed in and I'd come in make
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: up for thirty minutes, maybe sit for another thirty and
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: then you film.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a lot to do with had you
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: cram a lot of stuff and a lot of dialogue.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it moved very quickly.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: I appreciated that because it's like I felt like, you know,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: I'd have twelve fourteen hour days on some sets, and
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: this one was two and a half three hours at most.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Right, So you've left the industry, and it's funny.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: And when I say I've left the industry, I got
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: tired of auditioning and the auditioning process. Luckily enough, I
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: still have friends that are in the industry and they'll
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: send me a script once in a while they say
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: would you be interested in doing this?
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: And I'll say yay or nay.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: I still do some voiceovers from time to time, have
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: my little setup and home I got auditions, and my
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: last one that I did was for Nissan Innovation.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: That excites. So still dabbling a little bit, but my main.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Focus is absolutely my my my restaurants and my growth
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: of my businesses.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you just you do get tired of auditioning.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I did it.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: You know everything's on tape. Now, you get a self
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: tape now. So I did a little audition last night.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Took me about five seconds. I held up my phone,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: I said two lines and I sent it in. That
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: was it. That's the audition.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: And you have an awesome look now much different than
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: it used to be.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Like I want to buy some narcotics from you, or
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: I want to be next to you on a horse.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: You know I can. I can arrange for all of that.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: This is what I could like all at the same time.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I get you the narcotics, you could be on a
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: horse same day.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, you look great. I love I love I
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: love about that.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: This is I was in the hospital, so this is
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: like this is a hospital beard.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, well then I take it back. You don't
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: look good.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: That's where I got the drug. I have so much
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: hydro it's not even funny. Do you miss acting at all.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: I, you know what I absolutely do, and but I
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: get to I get to get a little bit of
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: my fill because I am in charge of most of
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: my social media at one of my places, Mom said yes,
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: and Torrence, I do all of the social media for that,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: so I get some of my creativity of that.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: And it's not just a standard, you know.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: I definitely ham it up and the neighborhood and the
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: people come in, You're the guy Instagram like yeah, yeah.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: From time to time I get people saying, hey, you're
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: the guy from how High?
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I'm like, how do you know that? That was?
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: You know, over twenty years ago and I have no
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: more hair. But when you have people that are are
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: true fans to call classics, you know, they call you out,
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: which is you know, I find that fun. And then
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: if they do that in front of one of my kids,
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: they're like, what are they talking about?
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I said, I can't show you.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: My kids always want to watch my shows and ninety
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: nine percent of what I've done is not appropriate for
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: any of my children. I showed them an episode I
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: didn't I was on Secret World of Alex Mack. I
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: was able to show them that, and I showed them
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: I had a recurrent role on Third Rock from the Sun.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: So I was able to show them those because those.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Were you know, toned down. But everything else is you know,
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: just not appropriate.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: So how's Instagram helping your business? Because it's a good platform.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you use that right, it can really help.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you use it correctly.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: And it's funny because I've you know, I went from
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: when Instagram first started to you know, I hired influencers
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: and I have found that I've spent a lot more
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: money on.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Geting people to do it where I haven't seen the
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: ROI versus if I do it myself. And you know,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: when you when you.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Dig into the little algorithms, it can be very very useful.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: But again, it's just like anything. It's just like TV film.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: It's all about connection and that's what all of us
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: want and that it goes the same with you know,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: this day and I don't use Instagram for myself to
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: choose a place to go and dine or to go
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: to watch, but everyone else in my demographic hunder is
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: yeah if they if I can connect with them on
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: any of my socials uh and cross traffic, uh, you
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: know which it does.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I'm very blessed for that. So, uh yeah, I think
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: it's a great platform. I'm not a TikToker.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: Uh, Instagram is pretty much as far as far as
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: I go, but it is it has been very very useful,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: especially over the last two years.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an interesting platform, all right. So mama said yes.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: And Bay and Dangers, yeah, could could be Yeah. Uh,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Mama said yes in South Bay yep, Torrents uh not
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: in Torrance, uh nalu vida in Venice, Venice Beach, Uh
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: tell us, tell us what the big nights are in there?
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Wow?
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, Venice Beach, I would I would absolutely come
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: down here on on one of our weekend days because
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: on the weekends, on second Saturdays, we have a live entertainment.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: It's community gathering, so we put a stage out and
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: we have local.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Performers and oh that's cool.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: We're local artists too, so we have art installations in
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: the restaurant as well. Uh.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: So you get you get some of that that beautiful.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: Grit that Venice has always been super popular for over
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: the years, through the art, through the entertainment, and we are,
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: you know, two steps away.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: From the sand. So you know, any any day or
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: night is fun at NA Luvida.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Just depending on if you you're coming down for dining
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: or if you're coming down for entertainment.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: All right, everybody, get on down there, whether you live here,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: you're coming on vacation, you're visiting Venice Beach, get down
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: to if you're in Torrance, Yeah, Mom South and Mama
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: said yes, go hello.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: If you want to do some line dancing, you know,
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Mom said yes on Thursday nights. That's the way to
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: do it.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: That's the way to do it, all right, justin thank
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: you so much for joining us, and good luck with
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: the restaurants, and I wish you all the best.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much too.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: I hope you feel better, and I hope to see
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: you on set someday with us, you know, doing something
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: with horses.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Doing something, doing something. Man, I'll get on set someday.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: It's just you know, more and more auditions in my future.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: But anyways, best fans on the planet. Thanks for your downloads. Everybody,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Remember where you lead, we will follow.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: Stay safe, everybody, and don't forget.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at I Am all In podcast
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.