Latest / Becker’s Healthcare - Clinical Leadership Podcast / Kirsten Provart, Patient Care Supervisor of the Lactation Program at Children's Minnesota
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- 0:33This is Christos with the Becker's Healthcare Podcast.
- 0:36I'm thrilled today to be joined by Kirsten Probar,
- 0:38patient care supervisor of lactation program at Children's Minnesota.
- 0:42We connected with her to discuss the health system's effort to provide mothers
- 0:45with breast pumps. Kirsten, thank you so much for joining us today.
- 0:49Thank you for having me. I'm thrilled to be here.
- 0:53Excellent.
- 0:53Could you please introduce yourself and tell us about your background?
- 0:56Yes, absolutely. So I am Kirsten Prova, as Chris said,
- 1:00I am currently the patient care supervisor of one of our nurseries here at
- 1:04Children Minnesota, as well as our lactation program.
- 1:08Prior to my supervisor role,
- 1:10I worked on our neonatal float team here at Children's for a few years.
- 1:13I started at Children's as a brand new, new grad rn,
- 1:16and so this has been my career at Children's.
- 1:18I am very honored to be an employee here.
- 1:22Kirsten, as I mentioned,
- 1:24children's Minnesota has a program to provide mothers with breast pumps.
- 1:28It's all part of your health equity efforts over at Children's Minnesota,
- 1:31something that many hospitals health systems speak about and want to get
- 1:35rolling. Uh,
- 1:36could you tell me how did the idea to loan breast pumps to mothers involve,
- 1:40evolve,
- 1:41and what personal personnel rather and resources have been needed to implement
- 1:45it?
- 1:46Absolutely, yes.
- 1:47Children's has a commitment to our patient families to provide more equitable
- 1:52care. And so in that we now own 20 portable hospital grade breast
- 1:57pumps that are available to moms free of charge while their child is here in our
- 2:02hospital at Children's Minnesota. While in the hospital,
- 2:04many of our newborns aren't able to breastfeed immediately after delivery,
- 2:08which leaves their moms dependent on a pump to initiate and ma maintain that
- 2:13milk supply.
- 2:14And most breast pumps we realize are designed to support an already existing
- 2:18milk supply,
- 2:19but it often takes that hospital grade pump to really successfully start that
- 2:23milk supply if the newborn is not at the breast.
- 2:26So our lactation consultants know this and saw a gap where many of our
- 2:31patient mothers were unable to obtain that hospital grade breast pump and were
- 2:35therefore struggling to make the milk that they needed to feed their baby.
- 2:40So they saw that came up with the solution,
- 2:43and then you asked what personnel and resources.
- 2:45It was one of these programs that many,
- 2:48many people around the org touched in order to get it from conception to launch.
- 2:52Um, our lactation team worked very closely with our compliance team,
- 2:57our team from legal and finance,
- 2:58all to really make this program become what it is today. Breast,
- 3:03a breast pump company will run a rental program from themselves.
- 3:09Um, and we had looked into doing that, but then really realized,
- 3:13wouldn't it be cool if we could just run, like,
- 3:15if we could just purchase these pumps outright and run the program ourselves so
- 3:19we're not dealing with an outside vendor. So that's,
- 3:22we pioneered the hospital owning the project, um,
- 3:26and really having this fleet at our disposal versus going through
- 3:31an outside party.
- 3:33Kirsten,
- 3:34how many people have availed themselves of the program so far and what's the
- 3:38feedback that been like?
- 3:39Yes, so we went live on March 1st of this year, and since GoLive,
- 3:44we have completed 23 loan agreements where the pump was loaned out,
- 3:48used and returned back to us,
- 3:50and those 23 pumps supported 29 neonates, which is so exciting.
- 3:56Um, on an average day,
- 3:57we would say between 75 to 85% of our 20 pumps are loaned out,
- 4:02and the feedback has been overwhelmingly positive. Um,
- 4:06we have had mothers who have unexpectedly delivered early whose pump was not
- 4:10scheduled to be delivered for a few more weeks.
- 4:12We've seen mothers who were using a pump that was causing pain with pumping.
- 4:17Um, we were able to help a mom who is here unexpectedly from out of town who
- 4:21delivered unexpectedly who did not have access to the pump that she had back
- 4:25home.
- 4:25And all of those moms have just been so thankful for the ability to use the pump
- 4:29and that it's helped with their effective feeding,
- 4:32which has in turn created a good milk supply for them to give their babies.
- 4:37Uh, as you said,
- 4:37it's only been about a couple of months since you've had this program,
- 4:40but what have you learned about the need to be flexible?
- 4:43Certainly you touched on that a little bit, but yeah.
- 4:45What have you learned about what you need to do with this program moving
- 4:49forward?
- 4:50Yes, absolutely. Since the program is brand new, um,
- 4:55we are learning every day with the needs that our moms have and how to meet
- 4:58them. And so each day that when we come to work and work with these mothers,
- 5:02we are figuring out the needs that they have and how we can best support them
- 5:06and make sure that this pump program is helping them first and foremost.
- 5:10And so if that is bending to, um,
- 5:13the needs of when and where they need to return the pump or how they need to
- 5:16pick the pump up, we are just trying to make sure that it is, um,
- 5:20fair and equitable to all of the mothers who have our pumps. And that really,
- 5:24at the end of the day, it is benefiting their milk supply,
- 5:27which in turn is benefiting our patients here at Children's Minnesota.
- 5:32How do you make sure that everything is fair and equitable with the program?
- 5:36Yeah, absolutely. We,
- 5:38I think the biggest thing with learning about being fair and equitable is that
- 5:43not every situation will look the same because not every mother's situation is
- 5:47the same. And so really with that health equity,
- 5:51it's not that every single person that comes in will see these exact same,
- 5:55you know, step one, step two,
- 5:57step three because if we're being equitable to them,
- 5:59we realize those steps may not work for them. And so I think it's,
- 6:03it's been a learning opportunity for all of us to know we design a program,
- 6:08you write out every single detail and then you grow along the way.
- 6:12When you realize to meet these needs,
- 6:14they might not be returned in the patient's room as we stated on the sheet.
- 6:18You know,
- 6:18it might be meeting the mom at their next follow up appointment because she
- 6:23didn't have a ride to bring it in earlier than that. And so knowing that, hey,
- 6:27we're gonna meet her where she is at and we're still gonna get the pump back,
- 6:30and she still had the opportunity to use it,
- 6:32but it is fair and equitable than to all involved.
- 6:36That makes sense to me. Certainly.
- 6:39Were you able to draw from other programs that are similar or as far as you
- 6:43know, were you starting this all from scratch?
- 6:46We really started the pump rental program from str, um, scratch,
- 6:51but we were able to draw from our,
- 6:53our compliance and legal team really helped us with the outline of the program
- 6:58with other programs in the org when it just came to generally, you know,
- 7:03how do you get a program from conception to launch?
- 7:05They really were able to walk us through step-by-step,
- 7:08here's what a loan agreement should look like. And so in that regard,
- 7:12we definitely pulled from many different areas of children's,
- 7:16but in regards to having a pump loaner program,
- 7:19we really created it from the ground up here at Children's.
- 7:25On the subject of healthcare equity.
- 7:27Do you know of any other programs at Children's Minnesota now that you have the
- 7:30lactation program off the ground that might be able to follow in its footsteps?
- 7:36Yes, absolutely. Children's Minnesota.
- 7:39We remain committed to health equity and looking at this issue from all facets
- 7:43of care. Um, as the kid experts,
- 7:46that's what we call ourselves here we are on a mission to champion these health
- 7:50needs of all of the children and families in our community.
- 7:53One of another program that we have is our neonatal virtual care,
- 7:58um, which is a program that provides on demand care
- 8:03management for newborns that need that immediate and acute stabilization and
- 8:07resuscitation.
- 8:09It allows for regional and rural hospitals to
- 8:13electronically connect with our neonatologists and neonatal nurse practitioners
- 8:18here at Children's to immediately have that connection to see and hear what is
- 8:23happening in their delivery rooms and operating rooms to help in
- 8:28the moment.
- 8:28And that program launched in 2018 and has had great success and we're really
- 8:32hoping to continue with that and help grow that program to reach any other
- 8:37area hospital, be that in Minnesota or Wisconsin,
- 8:40to provide that equitable care to ensure that all of our neonates are getting
- 8:44that critical acute life-saving care that they need right at delivery.
- 8:49Kirsten is certainly important to speak about healthcare equity.
- 8:52As I mentioned before, it's a subject that needs a spotlight.
- 8:57How has it become as big as it is within Children's Minnesota?
- 9:01How has the awareness grown and why is it so important?
- 9:05Yeah, absolutely. I do think, as you said, it is, uh,
- 9:09an issue that deserves the brightest spotlight.
- 9:11I think we are all realizing that we all have areas that we can grow and do
- 9:15better as we learn about people.
- 9:17And Children's really puts that as the forefront is as we learn about each
- 9:21individual patient and family who walks through our doors,
- 9:24children's makes an effort to meet them where they are and make sure that they
- 9:29are receiving the best care possible. And so I just think we are,
- 9:33we're excited to be pioneers in this work.
- 9:36We're excited to have this be a forefront.
- 9:37We're excited about the ability to be able to be highlighted here,
- 9:40to speak about the many efforts and programs that we have that really help us
- 9:45meet our patient and family where they're at.
- 9:50Ki thank you so much for your time and insights today.
- 9:53If we look forward to connecting with you soon.
- 9:56Thank you so much for having me.