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Great ExpecTayshia · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This has been and Ashley I almost Famous in Depth.
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  Speaker 1: Hello everyone, we are joined today by very special guests.
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  Speaker 1: One of my very favorite people in Bachelor Nation, Tasia Adams,
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  Speaker 1: is here for a special Many in Depth podcast. Welcome Tasia. Hi,
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  Speaker 1: how are you. I'm I'm okay. You know, I'm getting through.
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  Speaker 1: I was able. I was able to start these magic
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  Speaker 1: nausea pills this week, which is helping me. Um, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so we're getting through. But you are seriously like you've
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  Speaker 1: been I don't even know, like how busy you have
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  Speaker 1: been since you you ended up getting engaged to Zach,
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  Speaker 1: which I mind boggle that it's been a year, well
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  Speaker 1: it's been in years since I met him, and then
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  Speaker 1: when your engagement is next month, Yes, it's still like,
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  Speaker 1: that's crazy, guys. I have so many it's like weird.
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  Speaker 1: Jared and I did nothing when we were down there
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  Speaker 1: in Palm Springs except sitting in our hotel room for
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  Speaker 1: five days. But I have really fond memories of just
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  Speaker 1: sitting in the hotel room and like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: it's really whimsical. The Taylor Swift Um, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: folklore just come out so like folklore is like the
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  Speaker 1: soundtrack to that time for me anyway, So let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about you and Zach. How often are you able to
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  Speaker 1: see each other because you go back and forth. You
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  Speaker 1: still buy coastal by definition? By definition? Yes, um, so
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  Speaker 1: you know it's actually it's been a whirlwind, um, just
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  Speaker 1: because I did move to New York on Christmas. It
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  Speaker 1: was Christmas Day, um, yeah, and it was magical. However,
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  Speaker 1: it was still COVID times, so it was not really
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  Speaker 1: the New York that it is now. Um. But then
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  Speaker 1: I left to go film Katie Season and that um
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  Speaker 1: took some time away as well. But since I got
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  Speaker 1: back to Katie Season, I was actually in New York
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  Speaker 1: for a solid two months. I didn't even want to
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  Speaker 1: go home to Orange County, so I could really give
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  Speaker 1: it a shot, and I just fell in love with
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  Speaker 1: the city. Zack and I had a chance to actually
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  Speaker 1: date and um just create so many new memories and
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  Speaker 1: I feel like our relationship really started then, to be
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  Speaker 1: honest with you, um, because it was at that point
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  Speaker 1: that we were able to go out and I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: just go out in the middle of the night and
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  Speaker 1: go walk the park and just like do weird things
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  Speaker 1: that like we have been dying to do. So we
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  Speaker 1: do see each other. He was just here UM with
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  Speaker 1: me on my travel adventures if you want to, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, UM, but we see each other often. Do
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  Speaker 1: you feel like the missing is that the distance makes
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  Speaker 1: the heart grow fonder or are you like no, I'm
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  Speaker 1: like pretty ready to just live like normally with him
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  Speaker 1: on a day to day basis. You know what, Um,
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  Speaker 1: distance does make the heart grow fonder. But I'm like
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  Speaker 1: good with it for like two three weeks and then
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I'm like ready to bounce. Um. But
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  Speaker 1: the good thing is because I don't really see this
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  Speaker 1: being like I've been traveling quite a bit this year.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really see this being my life, you know,
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  Speaker 1: every year for the rest of my life. I think
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  Speaker 1: that this is just kind of like what's going to
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  Speaker 1: happen right now until I kind of set some boundaries
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  Speaker 1: and my foundation and what I want to do, and
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  Speaker 1: hopefully I can just live in New York full time.
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  Speaker 1: That's the plan. Nice. Yeah, So we like to, like
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  Speaker 1: with the In Depth podcast, go really deep back like
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  Speaker 1: to your childhood and talk about how like that kind
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  Speaker 1: of started shaping you. So you have a sister and
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  Speaker 1: a brother, am I missing one? Yes, two brothers and sister.
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  Speaker 1: Two brothers, one sister. And your parents are still together.
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  Speaker 1: They've been married for how long, like thirty two, thirty
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  Speaker 1: three years something like that, So even together since high school.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's so cute. So describe like what you're childhood
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  Speaker 1: was like in Orange County, um, and how your parents
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  Speaker 1: kind of served as relationship role models for you if
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  Speaker 1: they did. Yeah, so life in Orange County. Um, well,
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  Speaker 1: my parents were both very young. Um, obviously they had me.
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  Speaker 1: My dad was nineteen, my mom was one. So are
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  Speaker 1: you the oldest? Yeah, okay, yeah, So I will say
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  Speaker 1: that my upbringing was very different than my siblings. Um.
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  Speaker 1: My parents and I were and are very close, and
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  Speaker 1: I think that, you know, it kind of came with
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  Speaker 1: its disadvantages having my parents be so young at times,
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  Speaker 1: just because um they were growing up to and um
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  Speaker 1: my dad was very strict, um, and I couldn't really
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  Speaker 1: do too many things. I feel like I was always grounded,
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  Speaker 1: and I feel like, um, I don't know, just them
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  Speaker 1: working as many jobs they did, um to try to
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  Speaker 1: provide like the life that I had, you know, being
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  Speaker 1: in private school, it costs a lot and so I
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  Speaker 1: remember my dad when I was growing up, like I
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  Speaker 1: was working like two three jobs at a time. Um yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and so um with that with more and more siblings,
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  Speaker 1: Like I just remember like watching my siblings growing up
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  Speaker 1: and and um really just being like the caretaker of them,
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  Speaker 1: especially during the summer. And um, life was different. Life
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  Speaker 1: was really different. I will tell you my dad and
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  Speaker 1: my mom were way different parents to my little sister
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  Speaker 1: than they were to me. Like I was always the
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  Speaker 1: one getting in trouble and um, having to do all
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  Speaker 1: the chores around my house, Like my sister could do
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  Speaker 1: whatever the heck she wanted to do. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: this is not fair. Um, but I think it shaved
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  Speaker 1: me to be the woman that I am today and
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  Speaker 1: like be very independent but also a go getter. And um,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if your dad was strict, Like how
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  Speaker 1: was your high school life? How is dating in high school?
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  Speaker 1: Did you get any of that? No? I didn't, day
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  Speaker 1: I think my my first okay, so my first kiss
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  Speaker 1: was my senior of high school. That makes me feel
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  Speaker 1: better because mine was my freshman year of college. Okay. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so and that was so weird in itself, like I
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  Speaker 1: instigated it. I don't think anybody knows this story. But
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  Speaker 1: it was, um like a Sadie Hawkins dance, and but
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even get to go to the dance. I
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  Speaker 1: actually saw my friends after the fact. So I never
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  Speaker 1: went to any high school dances, but are way more
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  Speaker 1: dangerious the actual dance. Yeah. So I was supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be going to my girlfriend's house whatever, which I was,
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  Speaker 1: and then they all kind of came to my girlfriend's
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  Speaker 1: house and that's when I kind of like I got
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  Speaker 1: to hang out with people, but I did I talked
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  Speaker 1: to guys. No, I didn't. I was so shy. I
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  Speaker 1: went in all girls high school too, so that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: really help. But um, yeah, I was kind of, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, just kind of an introvert and kind of shy.
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  Speaker 1: So then you met your first husband when you were
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  Speaker 1: in college, right, correct, So yeah, sophomore year of college.
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  Speaker 1: Um again, I went to a small private school and um,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, I didn't really date anybody until him.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's the first person that I kind of
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  Speaker 1: like created a relationship with. I didn't introduce him to
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  Speaker 1: my parents until six months after dating him, and even then,
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  Speaker 1: when I introduced him to my dad and my dad
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  Speaker 1: didn't even look him in the face. He just kind
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  Speaker 1: of shook his hand and walked away. And it was rough.
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  Speaker 1: It was very wrong. Um. But luckily, you know, my
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  Speaker 1: parents obviously had a warm up to him. And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it just kind of that lasted for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: How long were you guys together, Um, six and a
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  Speaker 1: half years total? Wow? So do I remember this correctly?
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  Speaker 1: That you stayed a virgin until you were married? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you are right, You are correct. And what made you
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  Speaker 1: make that decision? Um? Probably my dad instilling the fear
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  Speaker 1: of God and to me, you know what I mean again,
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  Speaker 1: he was so strict that you should have really loved
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  Speaker 1: and appreciated that, you would think so. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: also I grew up, um, you know, in a religious household,
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  Speaker 1: and since kindergarten I've gone to private school. So I
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  Speaker 1: think that that was always kind of like taught to us.
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  Speaker 1: You know, sex is saved for marriage, and it's always
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  Speaker 1: been in the back of my mind, But it was
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  Speaker 1: more so for me getting into college. I think I
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  Speaker 1: was maybe I was scared. Yeah, same here, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: was definitely. It was like it was part like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I want to save this for myself and I'm a
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  Speaker 1: little scared. Yeah, yeah, and you and you want to
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  Speaker 1: always hold like that value for yourself, and like I
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  Speaker 1: feel like it was this weird feeling of like once
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  Speaker 1: you gave that away, like you would kind of feel
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  Speaker 1: like I don't know, Um, I get it like cherished
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  Speaker 1: or valuable, you know what I mean. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that that's what kind of like what private school kind
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  Speaker 1: of does and what ye did your did your husband
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  Speaker 1: was he cool with that? Like how was that wait
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  Speaker 1: for him? Um? Yes? And no, I think yes, he
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  Speaker 1: accepted me for who I was when I obviously he
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  Speaker 1: first met me, and that was a value that I
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  Speaker 1: held very dear to my heart and I think he
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  Speaker 1: loved me for that. Um. But I think it definitely
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  Speaker 1: was a challenge, um quite a bit, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: that relationship especially, but it made it kind of easier
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  Speaker 1: just because we were long distance two for three years,
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  Speaker 1: so in a way, um, holding back was was okay.
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  Speaker 1: So let's fast forward a little bit too, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you meeting Zach and it kind of comes full circle
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  Speaker 1: when you say young love is so much different than
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  Speaker 1: adult love because at the altar, you know, on The Bachelor,
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  Speaker 1: you say like this is like truly the first time
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  Speaker 1: I've really ever loved loved a person like this? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: can you can you make can you make a distinction
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  Speaker 1: between can you describe young love versus the adult love feeling? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I think it's funny like when you're when you have
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  Speaker 1: your first boyfriend, you're like, oh, I'm gonna marry him,
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  Speaker 1: like he's he's like everything. Like you kind of grow
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  Speaker 1: with that relationship, but also you become that relationship when
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  Speaker 1: it's when you're so young, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Like you grow together. You your identity is not you've
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  Speaker 1: been single for thirty years. You know what you want.
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  Speaker 1: Your career is this way, this, that, and that person
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  Speaker 1: is coming in to compliment you. Um. It's kind of
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  Speaker 1: more like you go together like as a tree and
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  Speaker 1: you create your own branches. I think when you're young. Um,
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  Speaker 1: And I think that that's kind of like what I
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  Speaker 1: was starting to suffer from was that in my past
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  Speaker 1: relationship was that that relationship was me, And even when
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  Speaker 1: I got a divorce, I didn't know what the heck
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  Speaker 1: I wanted anymore. I didn't even know who the heck
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  Speaker 1: I was. I didn't have anything to my own name,
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  Speaker 1: and so that really scared me and so when I
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  Speaker 1: did find Zach, it was really important to me, and
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  Speaker 1: that's why I told him since night wan like, I
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  Speaker 1: want a partnership. I want to build an empire. I
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  Speaker 1: want to be able to do my thing and you
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  Speaker 1: do yours and we kind of come together and lift
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  Speaker 1: each other up. Um. And it wasn't until then that
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  Speaker 1: I found someone that also had the ambition to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: create a life for himself, but wanted someone to compliment it.
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  Speaker 1: And so when I said that, it was like this
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  Speaker 1: love of um, really accepting a person for who they
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  Speaker 1: are and whatever they have going you have to kind
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  Speaker 1: of like, okay, I'm okay with that, not trying to
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  Speaker 1: conform and trying to change them, um, and with him
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  Speaker 1: like I was. Actually, it's so weird because I don't
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  Speaker 1: think people understand like how you can fall into love
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  Speaker 1: with someone so quickly and as hard as you do.
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  Speaker 1: But I was very scared to lose it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I was. I was like obsessed with watching you guys
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  Speaker 1: fall in love, So I mean I felt it all
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  Speaker 1: through the screen. You guys. On the first night you met,
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  Speaker 1: you made a wish into the wishing well and you
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  Speaker 1: just put coins back into it. A year later. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but you said that you were going to tell each
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  Speaker 1: other one day what you wished for initially? Is that correct? Yes? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so did you tell each other on the year anniversary.
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  Speaker 1: We actually talked about it, um, kind of when we
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  Speaker 1: came back together after me filming Katie's season, Like we
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  Speaker 1: kind of I think after that it was kind of
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  Speaker 1: like we needed, um, we need to remember why we
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  Speaker 1: were with each other. And I think that that's that's
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  Speaker 1: absolutely normal, and I think that that's it's hard to
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  Speaker 1: beat a new relationship and then kind of go away
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  Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, you know, I mean, um,
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  Speaker 1: And this is me being real and honest. I don't
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  Speaker 1: even think, you know, people don't need to know our story,
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  Speaker 1: but like, I think it's people need to know that
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  Speaker 1: even though when two people are like heavily in love,
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  Speaker 1: you still go through things like okay, we need to
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  Speaker 1: remember where we came from. Um, But we kind of
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  Speaker 1: reminisced and figured out why we gotten this in the
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  Speaker 1: first place. And I think that we kind of shared
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  Speaker 1: our story then with each other. And it's very cute
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  Speaker 1: because essentially I'm not going to say it because I
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  Speaker 1: think we kind of want to hold out on it.
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  Speaker 1: They were very similar that, yeah, it was. It was
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  Speaker 1: really it's ironic, like meant to be, you know, that's
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  Speaker 1: so cute. I also just like this is so random.
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  Speaker 1: I have a question that is associated with it. Really,
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  Speaker 1: but like I loved his family on on his on
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  Speaker 1: the show. There was just so much warmth from them,
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  Speaker 1: like it was it was a hometown that like, it's
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  Speaker 1: just so memorable because of the people on it. And
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you said that that was kind of
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  Speaker 1: when you fell in love with him, right, That's when
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  Speaker 1: you knew it was him. Was when you met the family. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean there were so many like reasons why that night,
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  Speaker 1: but it's just he was so excited to entr reduced
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  Speaker 1: me to his family, and I was so freaking nervous,
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  Speaker 1: and he's just like, they're gonna love you. It's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be fine, and um, he just started crying like once
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  Speaker 1: he saw his family, just because I think that in
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  Speaker 1: that moment, they both he knew that they knew that
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  Speaker 1: he was really happy because he came in like smiling,
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  Speaker 1: and I guess like that wasn't something he was doing
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  Speaker 1: very often before he had met me. So they had
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  Speaker 1: kept saying like something's different, and um, I think that's
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  Speaker 1: when he knew, like, okay, yeah, like this is a
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  Speaker 1: good relationship for me. But also I do remember Zach
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  Speaker 1: saying because he was gonna go talk to his mom
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  Speaker 1: I think or his dad, I don't remember who, and
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  Speaker 1: then I was going to talk to the other parent
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  Speaker 1: and then he just like yelled right before he went
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  Speaker 1: out the door, like you can tell her and ask
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  Speaker 1: her anything. She knows everything, like nothing's off limits. And
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  Speaker 1: so with that, I just was like that was so
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  Speaker 1: reassuring to me, Like he the person that he's telling
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  Speaker 1: me he is, and like I can actually pick his
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  Speaker 1: parents brain and like they shouldn't be hesitant to tell
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  Speaker 1: me anything. You know. That's great. That is such a
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  Speaker 1: good sign. And you guys, you actually said that night
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  Speaker 1: one you like didn't have this love at first sight feeling.
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  Speaker 1: Did you have a front runner on night one or
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  Speaker 1: a couple that you like weren't that? Yeah, that wasn't
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  Speaker 1: sack that you feel okay with like revealing I feel like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, I feel like okay. So Jared and
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  Speaker 1: I were the first group date, so you went out
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  Speaker 1: with Brendan and then we were like the second date
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  Speaker 1: that you had and the producers told us like mentioned
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  Speaker 1: so and so, and I think it was Ben and
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  Speaker 1: it may have been Zack. I think there were two
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  Speaker 1: like one syllable names, but yeah, to describe like who
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  Speaker 1: was who we were thinking of after night one? Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there were there were a couple of them. Um. I
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  Speaker 1: think obviously, like first impression wise, I gave my rose
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  Speaker 1: to Spencer and I think that's just because like he
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  Speaker 1: reminded me and probably if someone I dated in the
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  Speaker 1: past and like I got that, you have to remember,
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  Speaker 1: like I didn't get the whole limo things with everybody
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  Speaker 1: I walked into a room, and so he was the
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  Speaker 1: first person that actually came out of limo for me.
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  Speaker 1: And that's kind of when I was like, and I
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  Speaker 1: think maybe it was like the realization like oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: him the bachelor atte but also he was like very attractive,
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  Speaker 1: So that was someone I was like at first, I
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  Speaker 1: caught my eye more of a Cinderella moment, like kind
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  Speaker 1: of like you more so imagined your night one exactly
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  Speaker 1: and um, but yeah, you are right. Um, Ben was
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  Speaker 1: someone that kind of stuck out to me night one
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  Speaker 1: very easily. I don't know, Yeah, what it was, but
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  Speaker 1: he was definitely someone I was attracted to. Um, let's
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  Speaker 1: see who else was there, And I think Brendan was
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  Speaker 1: also someone that he was my first one on one,
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  Speaker 1: So obviously he was someone that like I was talking
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  Speaker 1: to and I felt like there was a lot of
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  Speaker 1: similarity in chemistry there. So that's why he got my
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  Speaker 1: first one on one. But I do remember talking to
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  Speaker 1: Zach obviously and having that wish with him. It was
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  Speaker 1: very special and it was different than what a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the guys because not really anybody had any like
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  Speaker 1: kind of gimmicks at night, and so it was just
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  Speaker 1: a quick, little simple thing that kind of just like
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  Speaker 1: made it fun. Yeah. Alright, so let's go from your
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  Speaker 1: experience as a bachelorette to you going from that to
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  Speaker 1: six months later guiding somebody else's journey through it. How
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  Speaker 1: did you feel? How how was that being a mentor
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  Speaker 1: and especially so soon after you went through it, Um,
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  Speaker 1: and you're gonna you're doing it again? Like and what? Yeah, Okay,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Well let's catcher that first and then I have a
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: follow up. Okay. Um, First of all, it was an
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: amazing phone call. Again, first I was like, you're sure
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: you're calling me right, Like I don't. I was really confused.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: That's like when they called you when you're there, like yeah,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Claire's leaving and you're like, uh what you know, Like
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I really need to stop answering you guys phone calls.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Like it's been it's like a running joke now that
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I really need to stop answering their phone calls. Um,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: because my life changes drastically after I get them. But um,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I just have to say, like I was so excited
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: to be there for Katie because I remember just like
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: the feelings that I had was like I just want
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: to talk to some like a girlfriend and as much
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: as you have that with like your producers and like,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: because they are kind of like my family at this point.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: It's it's so different talking to like a girlfriend so
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: freely and being like, oh my god, like I was
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: such a good kisser. But like also I hated the
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: way like pants fit and you know what I mean.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Like it's just like how girls talk a certain amount
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: of trust to like I think a moment where I
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: thought it was very important or like comforting that it
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: was you guys there and not you're a standard host
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: or a producer. Was this past Monday's episode when Caitlin
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: came and knocked on the door to talk about Greg's departure,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: and you just felt more like security there. You're like,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: you're not going to use my conversation right now to
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: be part of the show. Like I really think that
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: you care about me. Yeah, It's just there's there are
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: times where we're like, okay, screw the camera's like, tell
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: me how you are feeling right now. And I think
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: just with that, you're like, Okay, I am a real person.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: They are real people. I really am trying. You know.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: It just makes the the show of it all become
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: like more of a reality, you know, and takes away
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: what you think you have to be like. And I think, um,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Katy really needed that, and I think that all bachelors
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: really need that. It's it's such a weird situation, you
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, just because you always have people
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: looking at you, You're watching, You're having people watch you
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: make out, fall in love and and cry and go
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: through all of these waves of emotions to the point
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: where you almost kind of feel like you're kind of
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: going crazy, you know, like in the morning you're extremely happy,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: and then at night you're going through a breakup and
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: you're extremely depressed, and it's just kind of like you
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: get up on your horse and you do it the
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: next day. For me, I'm not gonna lie it because
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: it was so close to like my season. I feel
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: like I kind of was in my fields a lot
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: of the journey. Like I would even text back and
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: be like like, I'm thinking of us through this thing,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Like I'm thinking how you kind of stressed out, like
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: going on a date, or like how I was feeling.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: And it was tough for me. I was crying a lot. Interesting,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it brings back even when you're on set,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter whether like you're even relating to the storyline
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: going on, just like being around that energy and those
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: same people, it brings back a whole bunch of nostalgia. Yeah,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: it's it was difficult to get through, but I think that, Um,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I just knew that I would have wished I had
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: the same mentors. So I was just trying to be
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: there as much as I can, you know, for her, um,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: and I think it's an amazing thing to have for
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor. How would it have been if Caitlyn wasn't
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: there with you? Um? You know, it's It's so funny
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: because I feel like our experiences were Caitlyn and I
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: experiences were so different but also so similar. Like she
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: started with another girl as well in her season. Um, yeah,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I came out, Yeah, and I, you know, Claire is
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: there before me, and then I kind of walked into something. Um,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Caitlin and I, you know, I had kind of like
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: a rough batchel with our our first Bachelor's if you will,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: and like, I don't know, we just like really relate.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: And so even her and I were able to talk
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: about our experiences and try to figure out how we
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: can help you know, the bachelorrette. Um, I don't know,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: if I could, I don't know. Give, I don't know.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: I think we both compliment each other very well. She
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: went through a really emotional time on it, right because
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: she was reminiscing a lot about her passes. Yeah, and again,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think people understand that, yes, we are creating
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: a show, but it's very much so our life, Like
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: our our feelings aren't fake, Like there's no way they
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: can be. Like you're still living through it, You're still
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: you know, intimately involved with these human beings like you
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: obviously are giving a part of yourself like, so it's
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: very real and it's um, it's difficult. We only have
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: a few more minutes, but I got to talk about
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: the ending of this episode this week with Greg leaving, UM,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: we had a psychoy. We had a psychiatrist on the
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: podcast talking about what she thinks happened, and actually she
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: she emailed us today a very long explanation that she
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: had after watching it thoroughly through, which was different than
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: my initial impression, which was that it was I thought
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: he was gaslighting her, like crazy, what was your impression?
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's tough. I think that Greg was just
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: really hurt. I thought that he wasn't validated in some
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: of the ways that he was treating her, obviously, but
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I think he like genuinely really loved her and he
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: just wanted that validation. You are way more right, according
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: to our psychiatrist than I was. She said that a
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: lot of it has to do with the trauma that
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: he's gone through with his dad, and he kind of
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: had a moment of regression to just not being able
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: to be loved back the way that he expected to
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: be loved back. So I'll get We'll get into this
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: again on like our regular podcast on Monday. But I
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: just wanted to get your perspective on that, and then like,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: what the heck is going to happen with Monday's episode?
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Like my feel like you know, like you know, and
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I am sitting here with my best guess being that
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: she either goes after Greg tries to make that work,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: or just says like I'm truly leaving, like I'm actually
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: going to book my ticket home because I don't feel
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: like I can say yes to either two of two
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: of the moths that are left. Let's just say. I mean,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: as we've seen already, Katie is a very strong individual
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: and she knows what she wants and once she makes
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: up her mind, um like, she doesn't vulture on that.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: So you're seeing her really at her her lowest. Um. Honestly,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: the next episode, I die, I can't handle it. I
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: watched it back and I was like, you're breaking getting me,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Like I still can't believe it. Twist and did you
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: know everything that went down or were there things that
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: went down that you didn't even know? No, and no,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: like I actually wasn't. I don't even I don't think
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I was on property when this um when Caitlin was
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: with her um this past episode. So when I got
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: on and I like heard what happened, I was like,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry why, Like it took me a little bit
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: to actually figure out what was going on. And this girl,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: she's a strong one, but I'm telling you her her
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: strength as a very much. So that was a fantastic
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: tea Asia. So now that you're you're on your are
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: you on set of Michelle's season? Now? I don't know
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: if I can say that, but technically I can, so yeah. So, um,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: as far as what you learn from hosting mentoring Katie's season,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: what are you going to do differently? Anything you'll you'll
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: apply in a different way, I think, you know. I
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: think it's so funny. Caitlin and I were talking about this,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: like we were giving an advice to Michelle, and I'm like,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I feel like I've already said this, Like I feel
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: like I'm just repeating myself. But the thing is, we
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: are and we aren't. We all feel the same things
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: like going through this experience, um, which is why like
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: we're able to relate, you know what I mean? But
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: everybody is very different. I think Michelle is a very
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: different woman than Katie is, and so honestly, the twist
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: and turns that are gonna happen here are gonna be
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: very different from Katie, and so we just kind of
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: go at the flow. I don't know how it's going
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: to be different, but I'm telling you right now, it's already.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: And oh my gosh. So Tasha Adams, everyone, you're fantastic.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for taking time out of your
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: exhausting days and all the interviews you have to do
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: to be with us. You are the greatest. Thank you.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I'm so happy to see you, and honestly, like I
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: said before, I'm so freaking excited for you. Thank hell. Wait,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: one of our favorite memories from the day that we
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: announced was you and Caitlin calling us and you being
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: so emotional. That was just the sweetest thing. Like seriously,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: I had that screenshot a picture of you guys, and
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: it's the cutest thing. It makes me like very grateful
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: again for all the experiences and the people that we've
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: met through this process. We're all going through it in
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: a different way, but like it's we we have like this,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: we have this bond, so it's exciting. But yeah, glad
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: we were able to do this. I appreciate you. Appreciate you.
• 28:56
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