Latest / Markets with Megan: A Quick Financial Markets Update / IMPACT REPORT Oil, Inflation, & War: What Changes Now? | S3 E125 | 03-03-26
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- 0:00Megan Horneman: We're coming to you today with a special impact report as we're in the fourth day of the conflict that we're seeing in the Middle East.
- 0:07Megan Horneman: This is Markets with Megan, and it is Tuesday, March the 3rd.
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- 0:16Megan Horneman: But we want to break down after we gave a little bit of information yesterday with the first trading day after the war began.
- 0:23Megan Horneman: But now we're here into the second day, and it is quite a volatile day in the not only the equity markets, but the bond markets as well as the commodity markets.
- 0:32Megan Horneman: So let's talk a little bit about and the two main issues that are causing the volatility today.
- 0:38Megan Horneman: First of all, it is expensive the war has expanded beyond just the US and Israel.
- 0:43Megan Horneman: Trump has warned that it could take weeks before we see a resolution here.
- 0:47Megan Horneman: And then he didn't, he hasn't rolled out completely ground troops, U.S.
- 0:51Megan Horneman: ground troops.
- 0:52Megan Horneman: So this has caused a lot of fear and anxiety in the markets.
- 0:55Megan Horneman: Oil prices, which have skyrocketed here because of this turmoil, that also is disrupting the markets, and we'll talk about that in a second.
- 1:03Megan Horneman: And then what is going on in the Strait of Hormuz?
- 1:05Megan Horneman: Um, there is Iran has said that they would attack any container ships or shit or any kind of vessels that enter through there.
- 1:13Megan Horneman: So while it's not officially shut down, um, that cause of fear has people diverting away from the Strait of Hormuz.
- 1:20Megan Horneman: And this does have impacts from an economic standpoint and from an inflation standpoint.
- 1:24Megan Horneman: We've seen tanker activity both um west to east and east to west drop significantly in in recent days.
- 1:32Megan Horneman: And remember, the Strait of Hormuz is the second largest daily volume of moving petroleum.
- 1:36Megan Horneman: It moves about 20 million barrels of petroleum a day.
- 1:40Megan Horneman: The biggest destination of the oil that moves to the Strait of Hormuz is to China, because China gets 89% of its oil from Iran.
- 1:48Megan Horneman: Now let's just talk about the market perspective.
- 1:51Megan Horneman: Um as you know, we're filming this, it's been a pretty ugly day from the equity standpoint.
- 1:56Megan Horneman: The VIX has jumped, which is a volatility index, to the highest we've seen since Liberation Day, the SP 500s, and it's the worst day since October of last year.
- 2:05Megan Horneman: Small and mid-cap stocks, which have been really one of the favorite areas of the market, are taking the brunt of it today.
- 2:12Megan Horneman: And also international equities are underperforming the US because there is a lot of uncertainty what this disruption will do to some of the other developed economies, especially within Europe.
- 2:22Megan Horneman: Crude oil is at$77 a barrel.
- 2:24Megan Horneman: That's the highest we've seen since January of 25.
- 2:27Megan Horneman: All 11 sectors are lower in the SP 500.
- 2:31Megan Horneman: It's led by materials, industrials, and consumer discretionary.
- 2:35Megan Horneman: And energy, you know, as we when I came into this, it was slightly lower for the day, but very muted decline.
- 2:42Megan Horneman: The dollar is higher, and then treasuries are weaker as we're seeing inflation expectations increase.
- 2:48Megan Horneman: We've seen two-year inflation expectations rise to a 10-month high.
- 2:53Megan Horneman: The good news out of that is long-term inflation expectations have been relatively contained.
- 2:59Megan Horneman: Because of the concern here from an inflation standpoint, Fed funds futures contracts for year end coming into this at the end of last week, that was about 3%.
- 3:09Megan Horneman: So looking for a few more a couple more interest rate cuts, it's now at 320.
- 3:12Megan Horneman: So the market is pricing out some interest rate cuts for the year.
- 3:16Megan Horneman: So let's break this down from an economic standpoint.
- 3:19Megan Horneman: What does the higher oil prices mean for GDP and inflation?
- 3:23Megan Horneman: There are some estimates that a$10 increase per barrel of oil, if it's sustained, can cut GDP between 10 and 20 basis points.
- 3:33Megan Horneman: The headline inflation, um, that is a that's a little bit more concerning because you can see that that a$10 per barrel increase could increase headline inflation, remember that includes energy, by 20 basis points.
- 3:47Megan Horneman: And given that we've already seen a 10 per a$10 increase in um oil prices year to date, and this is before we the turmoil began, we do expect that this can have a bit of a bigger impact.
- 4:00Megan Horneman: And again, I want to stress if this continues for a prolonged period of time, now that can have an impact to GDP specifically through taking away spending power from the consumer.
- 4:11Megan Horneman: So there's a there's a rule of thumb that for every you know one cent increase or one dollar increase in in gas prices, it reduces annual spending power by um a billion dollars.
- 4:21Megan Horneman: So we're looking at you know tens of billions of dollars of reduced annual spending power.
- 4:26Megan Horneman: Again, this just depends on how long this goes on.
- 4:30Megan Horneman: So let's give a, you know, our our bottom line and our takeaway from this.
- 4:34Megan Horneman: This was not an unknown event would happen.
- 4:37Megan Horneman: The timing of it was a little uncertain, but it also isn't surprising given the activity and movement towards Iran in recent weeks.
- 4:46Megan Horneman: The one there's two things that that will really impact how these markets pan out with this.
- 4:51Megan Horneman: It's the duration of the conflict, which we know will go on for several weeks, and then how much of this disruption continues in the Strait of Hormuz.
- 4:59Megan Horneman: Um, because this is probably gonna last for weeks, we expect equity volatility to continue.
- 5:04Megan Horneman: Um, oil will probably remain high as well.
- 5:07Megan Horneman: We don't know exactly how high it can go.
- 5:10Megan Horneman: There's a couple positives here.
- 5:11Megan Horneman: Um, first of all, the U.S.
- 5:13Megan Horneman: is the largest producer of oil right now.
- 5:15Megan Horneman: We're also the largest exporter of liquid natural gas.
- 5:19Megan Horneman: Also, OPEC has already agreed to increase production starting in April, and this was before the war broke out.
- 5:26Megan Horneman: So they they even did debate increasing it more.
- 5:30Megan Horneman: So there's is still that on the table that we can have an increase from an oil supply perspective.
- 5:35Megan Horneman: That can take some of the pressure off that upward move in the price.
- 5:38Megan Horneman: Um, if this does become prolonged, then you will see some more increase in inflation expectations.
- 5:45Megan Horneman: And that is something we're keeping an eye on because of the fact that inflation was already starting to stir a little bit before this.
- 5:52Megan Horneman: So anything can um, you know, really disrupt that inflation, specifically at the headline level.
- 5:58Megan Horneman: The the impact to the core level, which is what the Fed looks at, may um be a little bit more delayed, but we do expect to see maybe some ugly inflation prints here in the near term.
- 6:08Megan Horneman: Again, we haven't expected a significant amount of rate cuts this year because inflation was starting to emerge again.
- 6:15Megan Horneman: Um, but we think now at this time you can really kind of price out rate rate cut expectations and maybe rate hikes may be on the table.
- 6:23Megan Horneman: Now, sounds like bad news, and it's really um watching the markets like we're seeing today, watching the consistent coverage on the news can be very, very um create a lot of anxiety and a lot of angst with investors.
- 6:35Megan Horneman: And we're here to tell you that we've looked at a lot of different geopolitical events.
- 6:39Megan Horneman: Um, we went all the way back to the early 80s, we've looked at many things that have impacted the Strait of Hormuz and we and and and what that has meant from an equity standpoint.
- 6:49Megan Horneman: And what we see is that typically these end up being buying opportunities.
- 6:53Megan Horneman: We don't think this is gonna have a long-term impact on growth because we don't think this is going to be a long-term event.
- 7:00Megan Horneman: A few weeks, maybe, yes, but Iran was already in such a difficult situation coming into this that we don't think they're really gonna have much legs to stand on.
- 7:11Megan Horneman: And they have um really angered a lot of other countries in that Middle East region.
- 7:15Megan Horneman: So they really, I don't think, have a good way out of this.
- 7:19Megan Horneman: Um, we do think that, like we mentioned, the volatility will be there, but historically it's presented good opportunities to buy.
- 7:26Megan Horneman: So we're looking at some how this shakes out, we're looking at some of the valuations in the market, and we won't be afraid to add to our equity exposure if we see some opportunities here.
- 7:37Megan Horneman: The other area that is likely to get hit from this will be on the credit side.
- 7:41Megan Horneman: High yield credit, we've avoided, and that's been because spreads did not give enough reward for the risk, but there may be some opportunity there to get some more yield in the portfolios.
- 7:53Megan Horneman: We were positioned coming into this with a short duration and fixed income.
- 7:58Megan Horneman: And remember, if inflation is a risk, you'll see yields higher.
- 8:01Megan Horneman: So we have seen a lot of weakness in long-term treasuries.
- 8:04Megan Horneman: So we've been in that short-term rage.
- 8:06Megan Horneman: That should help cushion some of this volatility from a return perspective.
- 8:10Megan Horneman: We had sold some equities in January, and we are now underweight global equities across all of our portfolios.
- 8:17Megan Horneman: And that's because Iran is just one of many risks that we saw were being underappreciated in the market.
- 8:23Megan Horneman: So we did come into this with an underweight global equity exposure.
- 8:27Megan Horneman: And as I mentioned, we'll continue to look at maybe opportunities.
- 8:30Megan Horneman: What history has shown us is in the one, three, six, and twelve month time period, equities are higher after these types of events.
- 8:39Megan Horneman: And actually, believe it or not, in the events that we looked at, there are six of them going back to the early 1980s, oil prices were lower.
- 8:48Megan Horneman: Um, so this may take some of that concern out of longer-term inflation, and that may be why we're not seeing long-term inflation expectations really tick up.
- 8:57Megan Horneman: From a consumer standpoint, there is the one big beautiful tax bill, which is offering a lot of relief to consumers for the first half of the year.
- 9:06Megan Horneman: So instead of, again, it's not great to see oil prices higher.
- 9:11Megan Horneman: We have seen um gasoline prices go up to$3.10.
- 9:15Megan Horneman: So they're up about 30 cents.
- 9:16Megan Horneman: But the there is some extra room here, wiggle room with consumers.
- 9:20Megan Horneman: It does not mean it won't they won't pull back in spending in some other areas, but at least it's a very timely offer here for consumers that can get the tax refunds, and we're seeing them pick up significantly as we get to the height of the tax filing season.
- 9:35Megan Horneman: Now that's all we have today.
- 9:36Megan Horneman: If you have any questions, please feel free to reach out to your financial advisors.
- 9:40Megan Horneman: We'll be back with more impact reports as this unfolds and if we see that there's um opportunities in the market to make you aware of.
- 9:47Megan Horneman: But again, remember this is a short we think this is a short-term geopolitical event, and historically these do present good buying opportunities for investors.
- 9:57Megan Horneman: Thank you, Mm.