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Furness Show 7-13: Mollywhop Monday, Pete Von Reicbauer · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: We're you get to sale here in a second, Mariners quickly.
• 0:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. I chuck this morning
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  Speaker 1: called for a managerial change. The guys did it two
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: weeks ago on this show. I'm going to be very
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  Speaker 1: honest with you. I just I don't feel comfortable enough
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: saying one way or the other, keep him or let
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  Speaker 1: him go, because frankly, I just don't know. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how culpable he is. I think sometimes we make
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: sometimes moves are made in sports just to make a move. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and if that's the case and you think something needs
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  Speaker 1: to be shaken up and what have you, then fire away.
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: This is a So it's a really I think it's
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  Speaker 1: a complicated and a layered situation with the baseball team
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: because the same group that put together this, for the
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  Speaker 1: most part, really good pitching staff at least starting rotation,
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: is also the same group that you know has given
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  Speaker 1: you over the years Tommy Listella, Colton, Longper Hummel, Cooper Hummel,
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  Speaker 1: aj Pollock, Rob Refsnyder, et cetera. And the inability to
• 1:08
  Speaker 1: find guys that can play corner outfield on a daily
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  Speaker 1: basis at a high level. And yes, Randy can hit,
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  Speaker 1: he just can't field. And we all know what happened
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  Speaker 1: this weekend. If you missed it, he basically lollygag on
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: a fly ball. Luis Castillo was pissed.
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  Speaker 2: Off, probably cost him two runs.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe the game. Yeah, and that you know what
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  Speaker 1: Randy does for at the plate, he is their most
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  Speaker 1: important offensive player right now, He's been their best offensive player.
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  Speaker 1: But in the field, it's an absolute disaster, and you
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  Speaker 1: don't have an option. The accountability, Like I guess, the
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  Speaker 1: one thing from a manager standpoint, I would say is
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  Speaker 1: that if there is more accountability, more of a feeling
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  Speaker 1: of like I got to do things the right way,
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  Speaker 1: then that doesn't happen. And maybe he just feels comfortable
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  Speaker 1: doing that. There was a play last week. I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to think what was the last show I did, because
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  Speaker 1: we have soccer Thursday and Fridaydnesday, Wednesday, there was a
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  Speaker 1: game earlier in the week. I don't know, might have
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  Speaker 1: been Tuesday that he also kind of just took it
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  Speaker 1: easy on a ball in the corner. I think it was.
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  Speaker 2: He's done it a lot more recently.
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  Speaker 1: And my wife who just just were kind of eating
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  Speaker 1: dinner and just I'm watching but she's casually and she's
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  Speaker 1: like Randy. She likes Randy because he wears fifty six.
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  Speaker 1: My kid wore fifty six in high school college that
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  Speaker 1: so that's so she got himself from Randy rose Rain
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  Speaker 1: his shirt last year when she went to a game
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  Speaker 1: because he's fifty six.
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  Speaker 2: You are annoyed by that.
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you no, I don't care. I just
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  Speaker 1: it's funny house. That's the person she and she's like, Randy,
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  Speaker 1: what do you like? She saw how lazy you was?
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  Speaker 1: It's just bad. But is that because of the manager
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  Speaker 1: and he doesn't have the same juice that maybe a
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  Speaker 1: John Schneider would have or and I'm talking about the
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  Speaker 1: manager in Toronto, not the GM here or in Dune Aaron,
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  Speaker 1: but whoever, Right, there's no accountability. Maybe, so if you
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  Speaker 1: want to go down that road. But we'll talk about
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  Speaker 1: it with the boys coming up at one o'clock today,
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  Speaker 1: we'll get into that because that's a bad week. I
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  Speaker 1: know you're playing better competition, but I think what we
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  Speaker 1: have seen this year a lot of times when you
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  Speaker 1: are playing better competition, you're not good enough, right, simple
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  Speaker 1: as that. A lot of baseball have to be played still,
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  Speaker 1: probably the most talented team, the best team in the
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  Speaker 1: AO West. But you do have to win games to
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  Speaker 1: get in the playoffs. You can't just kind of sneak through.
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  Speaker 1: They're not just this isn't there's nothing arbitrary about this,
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  Speaker 1: nothing subjective about this. Is this in the college football
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  Speaker 1: playoff or March madness, where you know what, North Carolina
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  Speaker 1: kind of screwed around. And yeah, they've had a couple
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  Speaker 1: of injuries and their best players hurt, but they're still
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  Speaker 1: going to get a four seed. That's not how it works. Like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: the Marrions have a bunch of injuries, they got these things,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, there's still gonna be a four seed.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe got a waltz to an AO West championship.
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  Speaker 1: Right, That's not how it works. You gotta win games,
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  Speaker 1: and they have not done a good enough job of
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  Speaker 1: winning games. And so we'll get in all that coming
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  Speaker 1: up at one o'clock today. The Seahawks sale is obviously
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  Speaker 1: kind of the headline. I'm very curious the thoughts and
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  Speaker 1: the emotions, if there are any for sports fans. I
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  Speaker 1: did a hit this morning with my buddies down in Portland,
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  Speaker 1: Dirt and Sprague on their morning show on the fan
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  Speaker 1: down there, my old station I used to work at,
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  Speaker 1: and you know that, Hey, what's the what's the thoughts
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  Speaker 1: up there? You know what are people saying with the feelings.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, I've been on the area yet,
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea, like honestly, and it was not
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  Speaker 1: for me, not. I didn't didn't feel like it was
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  Speaker 1: a big topic of conversation.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it is for me.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, And that's good. That's a good place to start. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I I there's this, there's this unknown. But is there
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  Speaker 1: a fear of the unknown or is there like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: it's the Super Bowl champions, They've got everything in place.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing going on here like the sale of the Blazers.
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  Speaker 1: I think because it's so close and the proximity, the geographic,
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  Speaker 1: you know, proximity of it, the fact that Blazers right
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  Speaker 1: down the road. They they they the NBA allowed a
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  Speaker 1: sale to a guy that frankly has no business owning
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  Speaker 1: a second team. In fact, some would say no business
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  Speaker 1: winning a first Yes, he won the Stanley Cup. He
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  Speaker 1: didn't do Jack and the Stanley Cup people.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't win it.
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  Speaker 1: He he hired some good people, but a lot of
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  Speaker 1: those people already in place before he bought the team,
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  Speaker 1: so let's not get too carried away. He's also the
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  Speaker 1: cheapest son of a gun in the history of hockey,
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  Speaker 1: and as it turns out, the NBA as well. So
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  Speaker 1: I understand the consternation and the stress because of dund
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  Speaker 1: and buying the Blazers. Are they going to move the Blazers?
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  Speaker 1: And you know what changes with the organization? Well, there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of differences. One would be this, the Modus
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  Speaker 1: Center needs a lot of work. It's not key arena
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  Speaker 1: level yet. But that building was built in the mid nineties.
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  Speaker 1: Lumenfield was built nine years later, so there's a difference there.
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  Speaker 1: Lumenfield isn't the whistles and bells Jerry's World, Sofi Stadium
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  Speaker 1: the new stadiums in Minnesota in places like that. It's
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  Speaker 1: not or Atlanta. It's not that, but it's fine, and
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  Speaker 1: it's actually a great NFL stadium. Just again, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: say this, I've been outside of buff Buffalo is the
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  Speaker 1: only stadium I didn't go to in the sixteen years
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  Speaker 1: I was with those guys. Every week Buffalo has a
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  Speaker 1: new stadium, So it's kind of a moot point lumin
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  Speaker 1: Field to me right kind of in the middle.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree in terms of for the outside lookings,
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  Speaker 3: I haven't been Yeah, just.
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  Speaker 1: In terms of the infrastructure inside, the ability to get
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  Speaker 1: other shows in there and all those things, the amount
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  Speaker 1: of luxury suites, how they are, how they're structured. They've
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  Speaker 1: already done a lot of work. I mean they cut
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  Speaker 1: the press box in half a couple of years ago,
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  Speaker 1: added a couple luxury suites on that level, they changed
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  Speaker 1: the end zone, lounge area. It's fine, It's absolutely fine.
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  Speaker 1: And so I don't worry about Loomanfield the least and
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  Speaker 1: all that twenty thirty. I don't worry about that. I
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  Speaker 1: so moving. So it's not the same with the Blazers
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  Speaker 1: because Modus Center has massive issues and somewhere internal, like
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  Speaker 1: like we had Dwight Jane's on a couple weeks ago.
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  Speaker 1: He's like like plumbing, electricity, Like there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: infrastructure stuff that just needs to be changed out and
• 6:58
  Speaker 1: that costs a lot of money. You won't see it,
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  Speaker 1: maybe not, I mean notice as a fan, like if
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  Speaker 1: you've gone to a game with the Motor Center, if
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  Speaker 1: you ever gone to a Blazer game, or they've had
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  Speaker 1: tournament games down there and stuff like that. You're like, really,
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  Speaker 1: does it really need it? Honestly, it's a good building.
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  Speaker 1: Having worked there for a lot of years, I was
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  Speaker 1: there when they had a huge renovation in the early
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  Speaker 1: two thousands and they changed the club level, the sweet level,
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  Speaker 1: and they did some different things and it was fine.
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  Speaker 1: They also changed downstairs. It's that building's fine, but it
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  Speaker 1: has some other infrastructure issues that need to be fixed,
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  Speaker 1: among others. So the biggest and here's the other thing.
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  Speaker 1: There are options for the Blazers, whether they be Nashville
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  Speaker 1: or Kansas City. There's options. People want to bring up
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  Speaker 1: Austin all the time now for some reason. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you could go on and on. So there are options
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  Speaker 1: for this team to move. That's not the case with
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  Speaker 1: Like I would just say where would you move the Seahawks.
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  Speaker 1: That would be my first question if you're concerned about that,
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  Speaker 1: my first where would you move them? Like, tell me
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  Speaker 1: the market that needs an NFL team that doesn't have one?
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  Speaker 1: There isn't one. Some might say salt Lake. They don't
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  Speaker 1: have a stadium for that, right, cycles is not an
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  Speaker 1: NFL stadium, not even close. So no, it's it's not.
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  Speaker 1: There's And I'm gonna be honest with the Salt Lake
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  Speaker 1: if you're listening, I know some of you guys listen
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  Speaker 1: still on the iHeart radio app. You ain't putting a
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  Speaker 1: game a team that plays the majority of the games
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  Speaker 1: on a Sunday in Salt Lake City. Sorry, it ain't
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  Speaker 1: gonna happen. Just is not gonna happen.
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  Speaker 2: Why is that?
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  Speaker 1: I because they don't want to work on Sundays. B
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  Speaker 1: YU doesn't play on Sundays. The Jazz do whatever they can,
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  Speaker 1: never to schedule a home game on a Sundays that
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: the Mammoth try to do the same thing. You're not
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  Speaker 1: doing that. But they don't have they don't have a facility.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, the loom and where would you build
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  Speaker 1: a new stadium would be my next question. There, there's nonsense.
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  Speaker 1: You're not building it somewhere.
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  Speaker 3: Else, absolutely not. And you own that stadium. It's not
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  Speaker 3: like the Sounders where they're trying to get a new building. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: when you operate, you operate. Yeah, you manage it. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: sorry yeah with first and goal. But they but but
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  Speaker 3: we just had the World Cup here looked pretty damn good.
• 8:57
  Speaker 3: Did it not look pretty damn good. I think it
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  Speaker 3: was fine.
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  Speaker 2: Atmosphere was fantastic, So.
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  Speaker 1: I guess my question would be, like, what would your
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  Speaker 1: you know if you are thinking about the Seahawks sale,
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  Speaker 1: which again I might be wrong, and four nine four
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  Speaker 1: to five one on the Tacoma Dodge text line four
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  Speaker 1: on four to five one. Like I this group chats
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  Speaker 1: friends others that you know they'll complain about. I've got
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: group chats where people complain about the fact that the
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: Kraken just resigned a four string goalie, like uh like
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: or or the Mariners you know, are last in baseball
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: and runners in scoring position, things like that, which can
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  Speaker 1: change and turn around. Like I'd see those texts all
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: the time from friends over the weekend. I didn't see
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  Speaker 1: one thing from anybody to hear one thing. Again, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just saying in general from people going, oh my god,
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: this sex got sold, and well we all we knew
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  Speaker 1: they were going to get sold, and and b you've
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  Speaker 1: had owners here forever, the Allen family. They just worked
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes. It wasn't like you had somebody up
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  Speaker 1: front and facing the crowd. Jody her involvement on a
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: day to day basis, well, I believe was greater than
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: many people gave her credit for. She just let people
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: run the show. She let the football people run the football.
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  Speaker 1: She let Chuck in the business side run the business side,
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: and they rant it really well. You have a group
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: coming in that I do like this, So this is
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  Speaker 1: my favorite part. Nine point six one two billion dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Those flast two numbers are the ones. I don't care
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  Speaker 1: about the nine billion. It was going to be that anyway.
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  Speaker 1: So just under ten billion six wait for it, one
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  Speaker 1: to two, twelve's twelve billion.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. Do you think they purposely got one
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  Speaker 2: hundred percent?
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  Speaker 4: Like?
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  Speaker 1: Does it matter? You're talking about billions of dollars? Is
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: the final one hundred and twenty thousand matter? Does it?
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  Speaker 5: Really?
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: That's a lot of us Ian It would to you
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  Speaker 2: and me.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it mattered to them, probably not. So
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: that was I thought that was a nice little Someone
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: had had a chuckle and a wink over that one
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: along the way. But this family, the coastal family that
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: bought it very successful. You know, dad immigrated here what
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  Speaker 1: in the seventies, mom, I think in the in eighty
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: or something like that built themselves an empire, went to Stamford,
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  Speaker 1: and got involved with the ownership of the of the
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  Speaker 1: forty nine ers on a very small basis three percent
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: to kind of get in maybe a foot in the
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: door with the club, so to speak, the club being
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: NFL owners and here they are the the ones the
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: NFL picks and has to approve and all that. And
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: they'll put a bunch of money into Paul Allen's philanthropies,
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: which is really cool. That's what's gonna happen all along.
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  Speaker 1: I would just my only thing is, there's really to
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  Speaker 1: me nothing to mess with. Like I was telling Greg
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  Speaker 1: a moment ago, you look at who who runs this
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  Speaker 1: or what these people did to build it up. They
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  Speaker 1: didn't win the damn power ball. They can get rich
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: by winning the powerball. They earned it. They know what
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: the hell they're doing business wise.
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  Speaker 2: And they do a lot of like really good work
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  Speaker 2: as well.
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  Speaker 1: Really good work, especially the one foundation that use AI
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  Speaker 1: for books for underprivileged kids and things like that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so they're they're doing what football wise, there's nothing to
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  Speaker 1: mess with. The biggest decision foot wise, when you think
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: about it, was a couple of years ago, and maybe
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: we give Jody and Bert Cold some credit there. I
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  Speaker 1: mentioned this this morning. I really believe that the end
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: was And we talked about it on that Monday after
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  Speaker 1: the final game in twenty twenty three, or it was
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: January twenty four. Actually we didn't. I wasn't on the
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: air that day because with the National Championship game with
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: you dub the next day. We talked about it and
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: I said, there's something wrong. I told you guys all year,
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: there's something wrong. Greg probably said the same thing when
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: he was on the air, there's something wrong with that
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: locker room was It just wasn't right. Burt Cold was
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: in the locker room after every game home and away,
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: and he was there in Arizona when guys are smoking cigars. No,
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: they were not celebrating Julian Love's kids being born. That
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: was not what the celebration was. I watched it. They
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: were celebrating, Hey, we got through, some of us are
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: healthy and end of the year and no, no, no, we're
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: never going to be together again as a team. And
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: then the had guys sitting around going we didn't make
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. What are we celebrating. I mean, it was
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: broken and they had to make a tough decision. Bert
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: had to go to Jody Jody had to go to Burton.
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: They had to say what's going on. And then at
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  Speaker 1: some point they made the decision to get rid of
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  Speaker 1: a guy that won a Super Bowl as a coach.
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  Speaker 4: Here.
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  Speaker 1: That's some heavy ass lifting that Jody Allen had to do.
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  Speaker 1: That's a big decision, and she did it and it's
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: worked out unbelievably well. They decided we're going to I mean, really,
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  Speaker 1: it probably came down to keep John and and get
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: rid of Pete, or keep Pete and get rid of
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: John one or the other. And they kept John, they
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: hired Mike McDonald and last I checked, there was a
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: second Longmarty Trophy and the trophy case out there at
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: the Virginia Mason Athletic Center.
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: I'd argue they made two right decisions in the last
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: four or five years, one to trading Russ instead of
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: getting rid of Pete.
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  Speaker 1: And I was going to get to that. Yeah, I
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: mentioned those. I mentioned that to the guys in Portland today.
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: I said, you know, like Jody didn't get herself involved.
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: She did there. Yeah, she did there, And that was
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: part of it was Russ did it himself. I mean,
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: from my all indications, he was going to her saying
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: we need to get rid of John and Pete and
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: we need to bring in my own people.
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  Speaker 2: Forced her hand or he forced her.
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  Speaker 1: Hand, Well, she may have, because she may not have
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: been russ. It might have been the other half of
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: the family that but but yeah, that was that was
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: so she stayed out of it. Hopefully these guys do too.
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  Speaker 1: The business side, I've I think it's a really interesting
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: dynamic that they have their Virginia based athletics center. Culture
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  Speaker 1: means everything. I don't know if I can say this's
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: a straight face sitting here today. Culture in a business
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: and a company and for a corporation means everything. Would
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: you agree, don't don't say anything. I gotta be careful here.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: Who you work for makes a world of difference in
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: terms of how happy you are and are you always
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: looking for another job? You always looking for a way out.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: A lot of folks are, A lot of folks are
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: and a lot of businesses for a lot of companies.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: The Seahawks people that work there work there forever.
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  Speaker 4: Like I have.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: I know a guy that I used to be involved
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: with some new sports stuff with on a couple of boards.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: He's been a ticket account executive eight k. He sells
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: the tickets, deals with season ticket holders and accounts and
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: all that, and he might have a title of senior
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: ticket executive. I don't know selles tickets, but he sells
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: tickets great. I mean selling tickets for the Seahawks. That's
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: probably pretty good gig. Good gig, but there's upward mobility
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: or there's not, or maybe you could find a better
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: job making more money. I don't even know. He's been
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: there for like twenty five thirty years. He's one example.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: The PR staff has been there collectively for decades. I
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: think Chris is the guy the shortest tenure. He's been
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: there for probably ten years now. Everyone else is twenty
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: years plus. Corporate partnerships, the people that sell the luxury
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: suites and the advertising and all that sponsorships. I know
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: that Amy and her crew they've been there forever. They
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: don't leave. The culture that was created by Todd light Wickie,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Peter McLaughlin and now Chuck Carnold is one that A
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: is obviously successful financially. They just sold for nine point
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: six billion dollars in media market twelve, so obviously what
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: they're doing off the field is very successful. They're very
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: good at what they do, and at the same time
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: they don't leave. That tells you all you need to
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: know about a copany this. And yes, the NFL does
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: a pension for even people that work in the front office.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: But you get that after five years, you could bail,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: still have your pension later on and go find another gig.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: You don't do it. They stay there. And I'm going
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: to tell you right now, working in sports for an
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: I've worked for one, two, three, four different sports teams
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: and organizations minor league level and the top levels. It's hard.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: The demands are intense. The goals that they're set for sale,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: for sales and things like that, they're intense. It's not easy.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Your hours suck, you don't get weekends off, you don't
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: get nights off, and they're still there. The really the
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: thing at the end of the day is these guys
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: don't need they should not need to make any changes anywhere.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: This should be turnkey and go. But are you concerned
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: at all about the ownership situation with the Seahawks four
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: nine four or five to one. I just think it's
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: kind of a nothing burger. I just I someone's gonna
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: buy it. These guys seem great, they got a financial
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: wherewithal The only question do they still do things first class?
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: You and I don't have to deal with that, true, right,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: you know I don't have to deal with that.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: There's been a lot of sentiment on the text line
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: when we talked about Cracking doing things first class, where
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: people were like, I don't care.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: I just want to see them win.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: I want to win. And guess what. Guess what team
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: wins in this town. Weren't anybody else at the highest level,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: It's them. P von Reichbauer's evolved in the last sale
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: of the Seahawks in nineteen ninety seven Council Memorking County
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Council Memory. He'll join us next.
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: Now back to Ian Furness on your Home for the Huskies,
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: Cracking and the Twelfth Man, brought to you by Seattle's
• 17:55
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• 17:59
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• 18:03
  Speaker 1: All right, our next guest is a busy gentleman. He's
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: doing things way more important than talking on sports radio
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: here in Seattle. But I'm guessing back in about ninety
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: six ninety seven, those years he probably was on with
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Gross Gas and whoever else back then, because he was
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: a big reason why we still have the Seattle Seahawks.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: King County Council Member Pete von Reichbauer joins us right
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: now on the Beacon Plumbing hotline. Pete, I appreciate you
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: umping on too. I know you're busy. Thank you for
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: doing this.
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: So thank you Ian.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: It's great to have you. Great to have you on.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: Let's get to there's a lot of and I just
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: got a text from a friend of mine and I
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: was saying this, I don't feel like there's a lot
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: of stress involved with this Seahawks sale compared to Norstrom,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: to Bearing and then Bearing is he going to give
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: it to somebody here local ended up being Paul Allen.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: You were heavily involved in that. Can you take us
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: back to that time in the nineties we needed a stadium.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Ken Baring had done some things here and there's all
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: kinds of issues. How different do you believe this sale
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: is compared to that sale? And should fans be concerned?
• 19:01
  Speaker 7: This is a no Ken Baring or David Baring zone.
• 19:06
  Speaker 7: Baring looked at the Seahawks as a toy. The family
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: that purchased in the process of purchasing the Seahawks. Look
• 19:13
  Speaker 7: upon this as a fan decision and a financial decision.
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: When you look back on what Ken Barring paid for
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: the Seahawks, it was eighty million dollars. In today's world,
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: that'd be about two hundred and twenty million. These folks
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: just paid nine point six million dollar commitment to buy
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: the Seahawks. They're not just fans. They're making a financial
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: commitment to this team and to this region.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: One of the things, Pete, that I hear too is
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: that there's a little disappointment from some fans in regards
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: to not having quote local ownership. How would you address those.
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: I talked to somebody who was actually directly involved, and
• 19:54
  Speaker 7: his comment to me was when it came to local
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: owners all.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: They heard were.
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: We always talk about how important it is to have
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: local ownership, but when you talk about billions of dollars,
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: you limit the doors that are going to be open
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: to you. And so many of the folks that are
• 20:14
  Speaker 7: capable of buying this team, and have demonstrated their capability
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: by buying a team out of state, for example, Steve Bomber.
• 20:24
  Speaker 7: When you buy a team in your own backyard, you're
• 20:26
  Speaker 7: going to get a lot of controversy anytime a decision
• 20:29
  Speaker 7: is made. When I talked to when we passed Referendum
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: forty eight, I talked to Paul on that day and
• 20:37
  Speaker 7: I said, from now on, you have no privacy. And
• 20:40
  Speaker 7: that's the hardest part. You paid a lot of money
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: back then, one hundred and ninety four million, but he
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: lost his privacy because when he had the Trail Blazers,
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: he would fly down from Boingfield to Portland watch a game,
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: and no matter what happened, he came home and no
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: one stopped him at QFC on Mercer Island and said, hey,
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: what happens to the team. That when you own a
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: team in your own backyard, you're going to get involved
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: in every single contro pursue, whether it's players or coaches.
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: And so it's very difficult to get someone who has
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: a billion dollars to buy a team here in this region.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Ken Kenny Kelse, remember Pee von Raichbauer for a couple
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: more moments joining us here on the Beacon Plumbing hotline. Yeah,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I mean I think you look in our town. It's
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: pretty right now. The two major teams not named the Seahawks,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the Kraken Samantha Halloway is not from here. John Stanton
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: and his group buying large Chris Hansen or not Chris Hans,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Chris Larson rather are from here, two different places they
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: come from. I would argue that, and I'm biased, but
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I think sam does a hell of a job. She's
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: there every day and never once has it crossed my
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: mind that, Wow, she's not here, she's not from one
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: of us, she's not one of us. She's very much
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: one of us now has relocated and everything else. Stanton, meanwhile,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: has been here you just mentioned. I think John Stanton's
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: the best example. Everyone knows his name, and anytime things
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: are going wrong with the Mariners a one and five
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: week we hear his name brought up. Right, So does
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: a local ownership really matter in the long run in
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: the eyes of you and others that have to deal
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: with leases and stadiums and things like.
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: That, the financial commitment, it doesn't matter. But sure is
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: nice to know that we do have local owners like
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: John Stanton, Chris Larsen and the folks that were directly involved.
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: The Mariners have one of the longest history of ownerships
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: in Major League Baseball. They get a bad rap, but
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: you think about when they first put together the package
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: with mister Yamauchi having sixty percent control and the team
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: and the minority members he brought together. You know, he
• 22:37
  Speaker 7: truly committed himself to this region. And John Stanton and
• 22:42
  Speaker 7: his teammates, his colleagues have carried on that tradition. Baseball
• 22:47
  Speaker 7: has been unique in his commitment to our local region. Seahawks.
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: Paul Allen stood up when no one else wanted to.
• 22:55
  Speaker 7: There is nobody in our region. John Norstrom went out
• 22:59
  Speaker 7: of his way to join me in trying to find
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: new owners because he was so disappointed with his decision
• 23:06
  Speaker 7: to sell to Ken Bearing and the after effects of
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: Bearing and John Norstrom. We went from Oregon, Washington, every
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: place in this region to try to find somebody who
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: would write a check in this case for eighty million dollars,
• 23:20
  Speaker 7: and no one was available and we had to go
• 23:24
  Speaker 7: to Ken Bearing. So Paul Allen stood up and made
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: the decision in ninety seven that he was going to
• 23:30
  Speaker 7: keep the team here, and we're all the beneficiaries of
• 23:34
  Speaker 7: his decision.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Pete, let me wrap it up with this, knowing that
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: the lease runs through was a twenty thirty. There's options
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: on the lease as well, and again for folks that
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: are not referend in forty eight that Pete mentioned was
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: the public Stating authority one that basically helped build what
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: is now Lumenfield we can call it Lumfield against FIFA's
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: gone Luminfield, and Pete, that got done under your watch.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: You are a huge part of that. Is there any
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: concern on your part that at some point in the
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: next couple three years we're going to hear, wow, Leumanfield
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: isn't good enough. We need to maybe think about something
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: else and the threats that we I think you know
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Pete. We have PTSD because of the sonics,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: and so that's why I understand where fans would have
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: some trepidation knowing what the lease is and the stadium
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: that you helped get built. Is should there be any
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: concern for Seahawk fans.
• 24:23
  Speaker 7: I'm concerned every day, to be honest with it, not
• 24:25
  Speaker 7: because of this ownership, but we have to recognize that
• 24:28
  Speaker 7: they're changing tides within the NFL, and ironically in Loomenfield,
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: which I think is absolutely at the top one percent
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: of franchises in the NFL. You know, some people think
• 24:45
  Speaker 7: that there's some changes that.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: Need to be made there.
• 24:47
  Speaker 7: I just think we finally brought in an ownership team
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: in terms of this family that brings support for football
• 24:55
  Speaker 7: as well as financial strengths that we have not had
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: necessarily in the past. And they're committed to winning. Anybody
• 25:02
  Speaker 7: who has dealt with these folks in Solicon Valley so
• 25:05
  Speaker 7: one thing, the one word that they constantly use about
• 25:09
  Speaker 7: the entire family winning. They bought this team not as
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: a toy, not just as fans, but as a great
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: financial investment in football, and we're going to be at
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: the beneficiaries of their.
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: Commitment to winning.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Pete, I really appreciate council Member Pete von reich Bauer
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: joining us. Busy man, I appreciate you jumping on with
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: us for a few minutes today. By the way, it
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: has many text me a moment Ago said to remind
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Council Member of Van Reichbauer that they are very appreciative
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: of your work keeping our green space also known as
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Druids Glenn Golf Course open. So people want me to
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: pass that along to you, that they appreciate your work
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: and to support on that as well. So thank you, sir,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: came on it.
• 25:46
  Speaker 7: Thank you, I thank you for all you do.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: I appreciate getting good talking to you. That's a council member,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Pete von Reichbauer, King County council member who is a
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: part of it for a while. Yeah, you know, I
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: got a text from somebody and as I mentioned it
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: to council Member von reichber the non local ownership angle,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: there was nobody here in ninety seven and ninety six
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: ninety seven. There's nobody here this time that had that
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: kind of money that wanted to step forward. The one
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: person that if you want to consider her local that
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I guess would would be Milinda Frenchgates. And she just
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: tied her moored up next to the good ship Crack
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: and Slash One roof Entertainment, which by the way, will
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: be the ones that get the Sonics back here at
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: some point as well. So you can't do it all,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: she can't do it all. But you know, we'll see
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: what happens. I'm the only thing that surprises me is
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: looking at this sale, is now they can bring in
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: some investors. It's been interesting to me that they haven't
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: mentioned at all Jody being still part of it, and
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I bring that up For this reason, I thought, maybe,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: just maybe, and maybe she will be because I think they're
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: going to still need some minority investors and stuff in it.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Not they don't need it necessarily. They've got the financial
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: wordth All to write a check for the whole money.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: I think he's worth fourteen billion or something like that.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna do that. You're not gonna leverage, you
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: know all. But even when we're talking billions, you're not
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: gonna do that. You're gonna have other investors. So maybe
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Jody is involved a little bit. Maybe that would make
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: people feel better if Jody would had like a minority
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: interest in the team, right you know, maybe, which is
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: weird to say, because when things weren't going well, people
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: want nobody wanted Jody. Then Jody gets Schneider over Carrol
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: and they hire McDonald win a Super Bowl. Jody looks good.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: If I asked that, you know, what would be fun question?
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I should have done this with his knuckleheads down in
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Portland today. Would you rather have Jody and Burt or
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: would you rather have Tom Dundan Because right now they
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: probably want to see down there. They don't like the Allens.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: They don't like Allen's. Yeah, well, they liked Paul enough.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Paul was in every game, big fan invested. It just
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: didn't work right, like things didn't work. I mean it's
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: they have their struggles on the floor. That's also a
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: hard league to win in, especially in a smaller market. Yes,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I know what Olahoma City did. I get it, but
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: you guys get I mean, they don't draw. They've never
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: drawn a free agent there ever.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: No you know, so trade everything they get for draft picks.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Right, sound familiar?
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Uh, hard to get players to go to some markets.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: But you know, Paul was a baseball or a basketball guy.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Jody wasn't as invested and wasn't involved day to day.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: But she probably looks pretty good right now compared to
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: the guy that put the kid's name on the Stanley
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Cup as opposed was player and longtime equipment manager. Anyway,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I digress. We'll take a break, come back, ninety three
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: point three KTERFM. So now back Dean Furness on your
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: home for the Huskies Cracking and the Twelfth Man, brought
• 28:29
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• 28:33
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• 28:39
  Speaker 8: It's crazy thinking about the money involved here, right, like,
• 28:43
  Speaker 8: just it is insane, I know, right, we knew it
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: would be large. Ken Bearing ken Hoffman were the co owners.
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: We always kind of forget about ken Hoffman, but it
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: was because mostly Bearing was the guy in front.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Very similar to John Staton Chris Larson sort of thing.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Bearing bought it from the Norse from family
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty eight for eighty million dollars the Seahawks
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: for eighty million dollars. What god, I don't even think.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Then he sold it for one hundred and ninety six
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: million to Paul Allen one hundred ninety four. I guess
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: what's a WNBA franchise or an MLS franchise worth these days?
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: I wonder I'd say just maybe just under a billion, Yeah,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: I would say probably.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: It's funny because like all the money that the Kraken
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: paid six years as well, it'd be eight years ago
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: now right for the expansion for it was it was
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: like six fifty I think six hundred and fifty million
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: something like that and people, and that was a lot
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: a massive amount. Yeah, I mean, hell, we've had any
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: NFL franchises, you know, the last few have sold, you know,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: like Charlotte or Carolina sold like two billion. I mean,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: it's just it's the greatest investment if you have billions
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: of dollars to make. Right is a sports franchise because
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: the appreciation goes up every single year. But see, my
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: thing is and I understand the trepidation. I understand the stress.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I understand people. I think there's this big fear of
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: the unknown. Now we've never you know, I guess you
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: would have to talk to people that worked in high
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: levels with the COSLA Coastal Do we not pronounce it coastlin? Right?
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Is it Coasla?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I think?
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: So?
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, family, the you know that have worked for them,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Like do they let you do your thing? Are they?
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I mean there's such a weird deal dynamic of hands
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: on hands off. Right. If your hands on it can
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: be a great thing. If your hands off, then you
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: get criticized as well. I think Pete von Reichbauer had
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: a great point about that. You know, if you're local
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: and really people really know who you are, it seems
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: like it's easier to hammer a local owner and criticize
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: them than it is around right. Well, or just you've
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: known them for years, right, you know stands and name
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: has been out there for years. Jody and Paul and
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: that group. People have known them for years. You know.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: The krack and don't have local ownership necessarily, they do,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: They've got local investors. But the face is Samantha Hallway.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: She's not from here. It's and the funny thing is
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: she's there every day, involved, you know, in stuff every
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: day on the business side. She's not down telling bots
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: what to do, right. I mean people would say maybe
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: she should, but she's not so. But she's involved. The
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: bearing thing, there was no doubt that he wanted to
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: move this team to Anaheim, and that didn't really take
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: that long. I mean it took like what four or
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: five years ninety five season they moved. They tried to move. Now,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: the Kingdome was not good enough. That was one of
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: those stadiums that have been dated.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: We saw it with the Mariners as well, saw it.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: With the Mariners. Kingdome at that point was eighteen years old.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: But when you just think, and I we love our Kingdome,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: us old people. We like our Kingdome back in the day.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: But the Kingdome was for being honest, it was just
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: wasn't good.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: It was a dump, but it was our dump.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: It was our dump, and they needed a new stadium.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Getting people to pay for it is hard Anaheim. It's
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: not like they had a great stadium situation at that
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: point anyway. The Big A' is not a great football
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: stadium ever was Yeah, and they never had supported football
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: down there, so a lot of things going on.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Would say they still don't. I do have a question
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: for you regarding the new ownership.
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: Ye.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think the most consistent concern I should
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: say amongst people is the fact that not that they
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: just aren't just local, but the fact that they had
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: a stake in the forty nine ers beforehand. Not that
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: there would be any sort of conflict of interest, because
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: guys look into it, they have to sell their stake
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: to the forty nine ers before they make this purchase
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: for the Seattle Seahawks if it goes through, right, So
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: it's not like they could own a little bit of
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: both and have that whole thing. But just the thought
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: that maybe they're not true full on Seahawks fans, they're
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: just kind of NFL fans looking for a steak.
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I think if you look to around all of professional sports.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm just gonna guess here, there can't be
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: more than fifty percent, probably far less than that of
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: local owners for any team, whether it be MLB, NBA,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: ATFL whatever. I just don't think that there's there's a
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: lot of local I mean just we're pretty pretty successful
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: and this area is anything but poor in terms of fortune.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Five hundred companies in terms of obviously, with Microsoft and
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Amazon being more or less based here, Boeing more or
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: less based here, and other tech companies and so forth,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of money here in Seattle. We didn't
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: have people ready to step up in nineteen eighty eight,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six, or in twenty and twenty six. So
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: if we didn't, I think you could look around and say,
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: there's some families that owned teams, the Roonies and the
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Browns in the NFL. Obviously, the Packers are community owned.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: That will never happen again. But I think buy and large.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: You see, Steve Balmer's not inn La guy, but he
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: about the Clippers, right right, So I mean it's just
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not worried about that. The fear of the unknown,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: I understand. I think the timing is perfect in the
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: sense that they won a Super Bowl.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, Okay, we don't want to screw something
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: that works, obviously, right, And.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: I haven't talked to anybody in the front office, so
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I'm sure there's probably some concern,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: but I mean that does you know if they make
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: decisions on the business side that really doesn't affect probably
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: you as a fan, right all I like for me,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I hope that they leave it intact because I know
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of people that work on the business side.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I like a lot of those people. Great respect for
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: the work that everybody does well, do a good job,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: corporate partnerships, tickets, sales, pr community outreach, Mario and his
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: group and then all that. I have great respect for them.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I think they do a great job. I think the
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: gold standard in town, period, end of story. And so
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: I don't want anything to happen to any of those people.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: That'd be my concern, But it wouldn't affect you sitting
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: in the South End zone going bananas like it would
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: affect you. And if you're sitting there now, they've already
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: raised ticket prices. They won a Super Bowl. By the way,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: you got to point that out. They won a Super Bowl,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: but they raised ticket prices right for the new seats
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: in the Hawk's nest. I think people were going crazy
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: over that. Whatever, but that's the old ownership. By and large,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: we're just concerned about the football side of things. And
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: I guess here's the one part. When Ken Barring bought
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: the team, we had Chuck Knox and Mike McCormick were
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: the football people. Chuck Knock was the coach. Mike McCormick
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: was a GM. Mike McCormick's a Hall of famer, Chuck
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: was a borderline Hall of Famer. And when they took over.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: When Chuck took over McCormick, they fired Peter McCormick, cooked
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: coach a couple of games, end up being the GM,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: and then hired Chuck Knox. That gave this team legitimacy,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: gave them kind of took them from being the fun
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: little They were this fun little expansion team that on
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Monday Night football every now and then, Jim's orn had
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: run around, the kicker would throw a pass effro her Era.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: They were, That's what they did. They were just kind
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: of a cute. They became legitimate when they hired Chuck Knox,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: and he took them to the playoffs. Mike McCormick was
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: a terrific GM by all accounts. When they got rid
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: of those guys and they brought in Tom Flores. This
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: is why I just tell you Tom Flores being in
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame over Mike Hongrean is just an
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: absolute embarrassment. Guy was so far over his skis from
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: day one. When we're interviewing the guy, it was just like, man,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: this guy is clueless. The first GM he hired was
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Mike Blatt, the guy before he stepped foot into the
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: GM's office, was convicted of, accused of, and later convicted
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: of a murder for hier plot with a rival real
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: estate agent. He was a former agent himself, but he
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: was also a real estate guy, and he got He
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: hired two football players to shoot a cross bow through
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: this guy's chest and then bury his Body's who they
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: That's how Ken Burring heired is a GM. So yeah,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I can understand over Mike McCormick and Chuck Knox, So
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I understand that. I think what Pete von Reichbier said
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: is worth noting. It's a different time, a different era.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: And a whole different level of finances. But I'm concerned
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: to hear what you guys say as well. We'll get
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: to those coming up later on. Talkbacks are welcome as well. Well.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: We come back local ownership mariners. How's that going? We'll
• 37:09
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• 37:28
  Speaker 1: agreement that ownership group led by the Coastala family that
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: will be approved more than likely by the NFL owners
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: later on this summer, late August. We are thinking NBA
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Commissioner Adam Silver is expected to speak to the media tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: why it's in New York. Actually all know why it's
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: in New York as well. Let's see Marriner's gonna win yesterday,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: but that just gives them a one to five week,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: which I think is something we need to talk about
• 38:26
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• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Jim Bob ghost Keep, all right, go ahead explain. I
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: don't know what that means.
• 39:42
  Speaker 9: Bob Ghostkeeper was a real hockey prospect. I think he's
• 39:46
  Speaker 9: out of hockey now. But I just know him because
• 39:48
  Speaker 9: he won Dead Spends Name of the Year in twenty eighteen,
• 39:52
  Speaker 9: and it is a name. This is me retiring the bit.
• 39:55
  Speaker 9: Jimbob Ghostkeeper is as good as it gets.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I thought there's been some good ones. There have been
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: some good ones along the way. All right, well we'll
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: see what we'll see. We'll see what the so called
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: second half of the season brings us maybe some baseball
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: names or some soccer names, who knows. We'll see what
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: that is. That's Chris Craftford, that's Nathan Bishop. So what
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: a difference a week makes, Fellas, What a difference a
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: week makes? One week ago we were sitting here as
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: a five and one week for the Mariners. Things are
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: going along swimmingly, couldn't be better. We're all excited, happy,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: all right, here we go. Look, get this baseball team.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: It's cruising along. The only thing we can really bitch
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: and complain about is what they're doing with the six
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: man rotation. And maybe we're going to have a piggyback
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: maybe or not. And I believe if I'm not mistaken,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: not if I'm correct. Here Andrews fact checked me on this.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Since we last spoke, they've kind of put the piggyback
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: thing to bed, right we still the piggyback was still alive.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: At least it was on life support as of last Monday.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: That's now gone. Also gone are the good vibes only
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: with wins. After a one and five week as well,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: they go to the All Star Break which starts today. Obviously,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: home run Derby all that stuff tonight and then the
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: game tomorrow. They are a game and a half behind
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: the Texas Rangers in the American League West, and if
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: you're wondering about the wild card, they are wild card three,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: sort of tied with the Minnesota Twins. Boston is a
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: half game back, Houston's right on their tails as well,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: one and a half back. So what do we make
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: of this? Let's up, before we get to the manager
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: and Randy and all the other specifics, let's get some
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: general thoughts from the week. Nathan Bishop, Well.
• 41:27
  Speaker 8: I think we said last week it was going to
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: be a tough road trip, and lo and behold, it
• 41:32
  Speaker 8: was a one in five road trip. I was just
• 41:34
  Speaker 8: I just kind of trying to think through because I
• 41:36
  Speaker 8: think we're at is it ninety five games or it's
• 41:39
  Speaker 8: ninety seven games excuse me before the break here, so
• 41:41
  Speaker 8: we've got sixty five games to go, and I was
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: just looking at it, and I'm just trying to figure out, like,
• 41:46
  Speaker 8: because I think I had mentioned a couple of weeks
• 41:47
  Speaker 8: ago that this felt like this had all been a
• 41:49
  Speaker 8: waste to this point, just a wasted season. I'm just
• 41:52
  Speaker 8: trying to think of the things that have happened that
• 41:54
  Speaker 8: are worth talking about, and I'm just looking at it,
• 41:56
  Speaker 8: and the Mariners have the seventeenth best record in Major
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: League based Ball. They have the seventeenth ranked payroll in
• 42:03
  Speaker 8: Major League Baseball, they have the fifteenth ranked offense in
• 42:06
  Speaker 8: Major League Baseball, the twenty second ranked overall positional group,
• 42:10
  Speaker 8: because they are the most god awful defensive team I
• 42:12
  Speaker 8: think I've ever seen in franchise history. The pitching is okay,
• 42:16
  Speaker 8: the starting rotation has been pretty good to pretty excellent
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: for a majority of the time, and the bullpen has
• 42:21
  Speaker 8: been precariously thin, managed by a man who has absolutely
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: no idea how to manage a bullpen. So we're I
• 42:28
  Speaker 8: don't know, sixty percent or so of the way through
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: the season, maybe a little bit more, and I'm still
• 42:33
  Speaker 8: just struck here thinking, like had what has been the
• 42:36
  Speaker 8: point of all of this?
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: What has stood out? What storylines?
• 42:39
  Speaker 8: Last year, even when the team was struggling, and they
• 42:41
  Speaker 8: were struggling till they I think they won seventeen of
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: eighteen games in September, we always had Dumper. Last year,
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: we had something fun, and that's a great thing that
• 42:48
  Speaker 8: baseball can do. Was regardless of wins and losses. The players,
• 42:52
  Speaker 8: individual players, groups of players, moments have ways of capturing
• 42:56
  Speaker 8: your attention that override whether the team ends up having
• 42:59
  Speaker 8: a great season or not.
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: To the collective.
• 43:02
  Speaker 8: That's the vast majority of the Mariner fan experience is
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: finding these individual performances and experiences to make the season worthwhile.
• 43:12
  Speaker 8: What has happened this year to make it worthwhile?
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: You guys?
• 43:15
  Speaker 8: At this point, I honestly can't remember a season that
• 43:18
  Speaker 8: felt this pointless, directionless, like a waste of time, Like
• 43:24
  Speaker 8: I we're we're locked in here, We're not going anywhere.
• 43:27
  Speaker 8: I know I'm not going to be here a week
• 43:28
  Speaker 8: from today. But there's no reason really that I can
• 43:31
  Speaker 8: sell on the average fan to pay attention to the
• 43:35
  Speaker 8: twenty twenty six Mariners. They're just a really uninteresting product
• 43:40
  Speaker 8: to watch day in and day out. And it sucks, man,
• 43:42
  Speaker 8: I don't like saying it, but that's just the way
• 43:44
  Speaker 8: that it is.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Mile. Why how do we how we do over the
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: last seven days?
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Sir?
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: Bad? Really really bad?
• 43:52
  Speaker 9: And you know it's funny because Nathan said, of course,
• 43:55
  Speaker 9: because we are both brilliant mind something similar to what
• 43:58
  Speaker 9: I want to said. So go back to I think
• 44:01
  Speaker 9: our first official molliwat Monday, I mentioned that I only
• 44:06
  Speaker 9: cared about the destination and that I didn't care about
• 44:09
  Speaker 9: the journey. Well, that was dumb, because this journey has sucked.
• 44:13
  Speaker 9: It has been an awful, awful journey, and if the
• 44:16
  Speaker 9: Mariners reached their ultimate destination, it's going to be like
• 44:20
  Speaker 9: Clark taking the family to Wallyworld. Like this has just
• 44:23
  Speaker 9: not been a very fun ninety seven or whatever many
• 44:27
  Speaker 9: games it's.
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: Been, and you should be.
• 44:31
  Speaker 9: You should have more fun through a first half than
• 44:35
  Speaker 9: you the Mariners have had, and it's funny. Fun is
• 44:38
  Speaker 9: such an interesting term because I was watching the game Sunday,
• 44:41
  Speaker 9: and then I rewatched the game Sunday to kind of
• 44:43
  Speaker 9: confirm my biases. Even when they were up eight nothing
• 44:48
  Speaker 9: or seven nothing, excuse me, this team still didn't look
• 44:51
  Speaker 9: like it was having any fun at all. It didn't
• 44:53
  Speaker 9: look interested, it didn't look like you didn't see any
• 44:56
  Speaker 9: energy in the dugout. And to be fair, I think
• 44:59
  Speaker 9: if they would been rob Rossis Boomba that game, people
• 45:02
  Speaker 9: would have been like, what the hell are you celebrating?
• 45:04
  Speaker 9: You just won one game out of six. But at
• 45:07
  Speaker 9: the same time, baseball's a sport where their energy is
• 45:11
  Speaker 9: really important, and I just don't see it, and I
• 45:13
  Speaker 9: haven't seen it all freaking year. And there's time for
• 45:17
  Speaker 9: things to change. There's still plenty of time, and it's
• 45:20
  Speaker 9: mostly because those other four teams in the division much
• 45:23
  Speaker 9: more so than what the Seattle Mariners have done, much much,
• 45:26
  Speaker 9: much more. So there's still time. There's still time for
• 45:29
  Speaker 9: this all to work out. But this first half is
• 45:32
  Speaker 9: the most disappointing and uninspiring first half that I have
• 45:36
  Speaker 9: seen from this team since Bill Plumber was managing.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm old, this is no fun.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety two Bill Plumber managing the Marriers. It was
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: an absolute disaster. One hundred lust win last year, came
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: on the heels of the fever, having the best year
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: ever in the history of the franchise, and they turf
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: him and again, in fairness, that's like three ownership groups ago.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: But nevertheless, yeah, that the ninety two Bill Plumber led
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: team was that was something. Oh my god. They are
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: eight games different in a negative sense than they were
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: at the same number of games played last season. They
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: were seven above five hundred at this point last year.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: They're one below five hundred at this point last year,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: the difference being the division is awful more or less,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: although Texas might argue with you, they're whopping five and
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: five in their last ten and now they have a
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: game and a half lead in the division zone. But
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: they haven't gone away, and neither has Houston. And so
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: the fact that I mentioned this in the first part
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: of the show today, guys, this isn't like, this isn't
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament, this isn't March madness. We're gonna say,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: you know what, Yeah, you lost a couple of good players,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: but your name is North Carolina, so you're still going
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: to be a four seed. You're You're fine, right, You're okay,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: You're a four seed. That's not how it works in
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: pro sports. You have to win games, and if you
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: don't win enough games, then after game one sixty two,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: they see I'll see they say, I'll see you next
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: year at spring training. So let's get to the other
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: part of it. You guys brought it up two weeks ago,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: kind of unsolicited. You brought it up organically two weeks
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: ago about the manager and maybe needing a change. It's
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: an interesting world we live in. Not always do the
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Molly Whoppers and that's usually what I had our golf
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: tournament Friday. What do you and the game was on
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: before right, we're getting ready to go, they're already down.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: And the questions I always get, what are the Molly
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Whoppers going to say on Monday if they lose again today?
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: And what are the Molly Whoppers? Well, here you are
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: not always the Mullywhoppers are on the same page with
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: our morning show host Chuck Powell. But here's what you say.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: But here's here's what he had to say this morning.
• 47:43
  Speaker 10: The manager's not getting the most out of the team.
• 47:46
  Speaker 10: And this is too important of a season. There's too
• 47:48
  Speaker 10: much at stake. It's the fiftieth annivers We've never made
• 47:51
  Speaker 10: the World Series. We may have a lockout next year.
• 47:54
  Speaker 10: We can't let it end by missing the playoffs in
• 47:57
  Speaker 10: a year in which the American League is down like
• 48:00
  Speaker 10: never before. So I endorse a managerial change this morning. Officially,
• 48:08
  Speaker 10: I don't think they'll do it, but that's my statement
• 48:11
  Speaker 10: on a Monday morning.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: This is the fire Dan.
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: Wilson Show on Chuck and Buck.
• 48:16
  Speaker 10: And again I don't take that lightly, but I think
• 48:19
  Speaker 10: it's time. This team needs a new boss, a new
• 48:22
  Speaker 10: voice and they need a shakeup. They need to be reminded.
• 48:26
  Speaker 10: You just can't play like garbage and not expect bad
• 48:30
  Speaker 10: things to happen. And I'd like to see it happen
• 48:33
  Speaker 10: before we play another game. Chris will let you react first.
• 48:37
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I agree with everything he said. I
• 48:40
  Speaker 9: mean it's entirely correct. And I didn't even think about
• 48:43
  Speaker 9: the lockout thing that we could be talking about if
• 48:47
  Speaker 9: the Mariners don't make the postseason, that they were not
• 48:49
  Speaker 9: going to see Mariner baseball for a long time, and
• 48:52
  Speaker 9: we're going to have just the most bitter taste in
• 48:54
  Speaker 9: our mouth as well. But he's right, it's so justifiable,
• 48:59
  Speaker 9: it is so justify viable to watch what is happening
• 49:02
  Speaker 9: with this team.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what.
• 49:04
  Speaker 9: If there is a photo that you wanted to put
• 49:08
  Speaker 9: next to why the Mariners should make that move, it's
• 49:12
  Speaker 9: Dan Wilson's face after Logan Gilbert talks him in to
• 49:15
  Speaker 9: stay in the game. It is Dan Wilson's face when
• 49:18
  Speaker 9: that happens, because that is the look of a man
• 49:21
  Speaker 9: who just doesn't know what's going on. And I don't
• 49:24
  Speaker 9: have any ill will to wish to Dan Wilson. I've
• 49:26
  Speaker 9: mentioned this on the show A couple of times. I
• 49:28
  Speaker 9: told anyone who would listen to me. I only had
• 49:30
  Speaker 9: like four friends, but anyone who would listen to me
• 49:32
  Speaker 9: that I wanted Dan Wilson to someday be the manager
• 49:36
  Speaker 9: of the Mariners.
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: But hashtag not.
• 49:39
  Speaker 9: Like this because this is just not how this was
• 49:43
  Speaker 9: supposed to happen, and it's not going to It can't work.
• 49:48
  Speaker 9: It can't possibly work. And I hope that this gets
• 49:51
  Speaker 9: played over and over again when he wins the World
• 49:54
  Speaker 9: Series and sprays the locker room with will Cox farm milk,
• 49:58
  Speaker 9: because I hope it all works out just great. But
• 50:02
  Speaker 9: everything we have seen now suggests that Dan Wilson is
• 50:05
  Speaker 9: not ready to do this. Dan Wilson cannot manage the
• 50:09
  Speaker 9: Seattle Mariners. It's like Chuck also said, no way in Haites,
• 50:13
  Speaker 9: they're going to make the move. I hope I'm wrong
• 50:15
  Speaker 9: there too. They're not going to make that move. They're
• 50:18
  Speaker 9: not going to fire a Mariner Hall of Famer in
• 50:20
  Speaker 9: the fiftieth season. They're not going to remove Edgar Martinez
• 50:23
  Speaker 9: during the fiftiest season. The Mariners care too much about optics.
• 50:27
  Speaker 9: Prove me wrong. But everything Chuck said is entirely right.
• 50:31
  Speaker 9: It's time for a managerial change, and to be honest,
• 50:34
  Speaker 9: the managerial change that they created, the move that they made,
• 50:38
  Speaker 9: should have never happened in the first place.
• 50:40
  Speaker 8: Jason, I think that's the key point, and that's the
• 50:43
  Speaker 8: thing that I keep coming back to. And maybe it's
• 50:45
  Speaker 8: just me obsessing over the past and I need to
• 50:47
  Speaker 8: just let it go. But every single conversation we have
• 50:50
  Speaker 8: about Dan Wilson is a tragedy to me, because this
• 50:53
  Speaker 8: is one of the most popular, beloved Mariners of all time.
• 50:58
  Speaker 8: And I know that there are still people that probably
• 51:00
  Speaker 8: really loved Dan and really respect him, and they should because,
• 51:03
  Speaker 8: as Chris has said repeatedly, and as everyone in the
• 51:06
  Speaker 8: game says, he's a really, really quality human being. And
• 51:10
  Speaker 8: that's a reputation that he's garnered over a lifetime, and
• 51:13
  Speaker 8: that doesn't happen by accident. And it's a shame that
• 51:16
  Speaker 8: as a product of what I can only term an
• 51:20
  Speaker 8: utterly broken process through which they made a decision organizationally
• 51:25
  Speaker 8: to relieve Scott's service of his duties and not only
• 51:28
  Speaker 8: bring Dan Wilson in as the manager as an interim
• 51:31
  Speaker 8: guy to just play out a last season immediately and
• 51:34
  Speaker 8: unequivocably announced him as the full time manager moving forward.
• 51:38
  Speaker 8: That is a broken process. And yes, it worked out
• 51:41
  Speaker 8: okay last year because cal Rawly hit sixty home runs.
• 51:44
  Speaker 8: That tends to really cancel out a lot of.
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: Things for you.
• 51:48
  Speaker 8: Everything else other than cal Ralely hitting sixty home runs
• 51:51
  Speaker 8: tells me that this was a disastrous higher from the
• 51:54
  Speaker 8: day that it happened, and it has continued to be
• 51:56
  Speaker 8: a disaster. This team is not playing up to its
• 51:59
  Speaker 8: talent level. I have you know how much it frustrates
• 52:01
  Speaker 8: me that I can't just come on here in Lambass
• 52:03
  Speaker 8: the front office for putting together a half assed rostrated
• 52:05
  Speaker 8: That's all I want to do every Monday. It's come
• 52:07
  Speaker 8: on here and make fun of Jerry Depoto, and I
• 52:09
  Speaker 8: can't do it because his manager, who he I don't
• 52:12
  Speaker 8: think he had any part in hiring, is coming out
• 52:15
  Speaker 8: here and making three plus three equal four and a
• 52:17
  Speaker 8: half every single day. And it just has to change.
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 52:22
  Speaker 8: This is a tragedy and they're absolutely right. They have
• 52:24
  Speaker 8: their fiftieth anniversary celebration August seventh through ninth. Can you
• 52:27
  Speaker 8: imagine if they fired Dan Wilson before then and then
• 52:30
  Speaker 8: trotted him back out onto the field as a part
• 52:32
  Speaker 8: of that celebration. It's absolutely not going to happen in
• 52:36
  Speaker 8: any circumstance, in any reality. But you know, we talk
• 52:39
  Speaker 8: a lot about how you get to certain places over
• 52:42
  Speaker 8: time and why you have the reputations that you have
• 52:45
  Speaker 8: and why you get the results that you have. And
• 52:46
  Speaker 8: the Mariners are in their fiftieth season, the least successful
• 52:50
  Speaker 8: franchise in the sports history, and there is a reason
• 52:54
  Speaker 8: for that. And it's the kinds of decisions that lead
• 52:56
  Speaker 8: to you installing Dan Wilson as your manager. And that's so.
• 53:00
  Speaker 8: And now his reputation is tarnished, probably forever in the
• 53:04
  Speaker 8: eyes of some Mariner fans. And he doesn't deserve that,
• 53:06
  Speaker 8: and we don't deserve that. We should get to love
• 53:08
  Speaker 8: our heroes, especially the ones that are as good a
• 53:10
  Speaker 8: people as Dan Wilson, because he isn't actually a heroically
• 53:13
  Speaker 8: good man. He's just a terrible major league manager.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I I mean, I don't I don't think
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: anybody's comfortable with this, you know, like I this is
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: you know, sports radio is an interesting thing. I know,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: you know, Justin brought up Hollander brought it up couple
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: weeks ago. And you know the lunatic fringe comment with fans,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: and then you know sports radio hopefully he's still coming
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: out with Chris later this week on sports radio. We
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: also know it wasn't our station, it was another station
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: and happened to be a show of this in the morning.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: But but I understand, I think we all understand. This
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: is an interesting thing. If we were talking about firing
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: any other coach in any other sport, and it's different, right,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: It just kind of you can kind of you can
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: kind of cut the emotional ties off and not worry
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: about Dave Hackstall was fired, whatever, dann By also fired. Whatever,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: you don't care. Pete was a hard one. Pete was
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: really hard. But I think upon reflection, and I think
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: people that have covered the team and did cover the team,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: we all were able to kind of articulate, yeah, that
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: was time, right, it was time. This is so different
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: and unique because when Nathan and Chris poul said it,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: he's brought on, and we all weren't. We at still
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Qualmy that day. We're still call me Casino. I think
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we were up there doing a show
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: or we had you guys on. Maybe it's just I
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: just remember being up there and maybe we just had
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: you guys on an emergency show and we're like, well
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: this is interrom right, and one of Chris go no, no,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: this is the release just came out. It's permanent. I'm like,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: whoa hot what They put him in a possible position.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: That's the problem. They put him in an impossible position.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: I'm going to take a quick break on an early
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: break here, Andrews because I want to come back and
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: I everyone has that same like, I don't want to
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: say it. You guys did it a couple of weeks ago.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: He just reiterated again, chucked it in, said it this morning.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Nobody wants to say fire Dan Wilson. But I do
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: believe that there's a reason, and we saw that reason
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: this weekend and it Baby's basically just was kind of
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: if you're going to write up the cliff notes version
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: of why there wasn't there was something that happened on
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: this road trip that shows exactly why. We'll talk about that.
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  Speaker 1: sales I got going on. So, by every measure, this
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: team is below average their bottom third and average on
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: base percentage, slugging ops their last right now, and average
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: with runners in scoring position. Offensively, it's been a challenge
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: you always ask I think I asked you guys this
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: couple weeks going. Can the manager make that kind of
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: difference offensively? Is it his fault that the guys that
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: dumpers had this massive step backwards? Is it is it
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: his fault that they can't get a base knock with
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: runners in scoring position? Hell, they had the basis load.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: I think it was a Saturday right with nobody out
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: and couldn't get it across, just it all the way through.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: But then when you talk about managerial issues and should
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: there be a change, you guys both said so A
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: couple weeks ago reiterated that. Now Chuck munching on our
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: morning show today, others have too. Chris, does the Randia
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: Rose arena just Lasi Fair, Laise Fair. I don't really care.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to get to that ball stopping running,
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: blaming us sore hamstring, whatever he was doing. Does that
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: kind of reiterate the issues that are happening with the
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: guy running the show?
• 56:57
  Speaker 9: They certainly don't help. And you know, there were two
• 57:00
  Speaker 9: of them like that. The lack of effort on that
• 57:03
  Speaker 9: triple the day before was just pathetic. And I love
• 57:08
  Speaker 9: Randy Rose Arena, and I think that he is a
• 57:11
  Speaker 9: major reason why the Mariners are still in this position,
• 57:14
  Speaker 9: So I want to keep that clear. But there is
• 57:16
  Speaker 9: no excuse for a lack of effort. And if you
• 57:18
  Speaker 9: are so hurt that you can't help make your team better,
• 57:21
  Speaker 9: then you shouldn't be in the lineup.
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: And you know, it's.
• 57:24
  Speaker 9: Interesting because it's an interesting juxtaposition with cal Rawly, and
• 57:29
  Speaker 9: this is something I've been thinking about a little bit.
• 57:31
  Speaker 9: Some of the blame for cal Rawly's struggles, I think
• 57:34
  Speaker 9: go to Dan Wilson for putting him in the lineup
• 57:37
  Speaker 9: as often as he did. Last year and it was
• 57:39
  Speaker 9: worth sixty home runs. But it certainly has hurt him
• 57:43
  Speaker 9: because he just looks tired. He looks tired. But back
• 57:47
  Speaker 9: to Randy Man to not bench him after that, it
• 57:51
  Speaker 9: kind of tells you that this doesn't really What is
• 57:58
  Speaker 9: the nicest way to put this, I can't think of one.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: It sucks. It absolutely sucks. He he just doesn't have
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: the feel.
• 58:07
  Speaker 9: And you know, some of it is maybe just optics,
• 58:09
  Speaker 9: maybe it's just hey, us as fans, we really want
• 58:12
  Speaker 9: to see the guy get all fired up. The best
• 58:16
  Speaker 9: manager in Mariner history is Lupanella, and we loved watching
• 58:19
  Speaker 9: him kickbases all over the place and all of that stuff.
• 58:22
  Speaker 9: But Lou had flaws, Lou overused, believers, all of that stuff.
• 58:25
  Speaker 9: But the optics were that this guy really really cared.
• 58:28
  Speaker 9: And the optic, I think to John Q baseball fan,
• 58:32
  Speaker 9: is Dan Wilson is apathetic to what is going on
• 58:36
  Speaker 9: right now. And if they were playing well, you would
• 58:39
  Speaker 9: call it stoicism, you would call it grit. But when
• 58:41
  Speaker 9: you watch it now, it just looks like Dan Wilson
• 58:45
  Speaker 9: isn't all that interested in the results. Whether that's true
• 58:48
  Speaker 9: or not. And I would guess it's not. I bet
• 58:49
  Speaker 9: you Dan Wilson cares a lot, but there just seems
• 58:52
  Speaker 9: to be a malaise to this baseball team.
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: That is unacceptable to.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Me, Nathan. It's baseball different than other sports, but I
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: think a lack of hustle, lack of effort for a
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: guy that's already a subpar outfielder, to me, Randy's playing
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: the outfield. It underscores a fact there's no accountability. And
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: I think if, if, maybe, if there's one thing the
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: manager has to have, he's got to hold his he's
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: got to hold twenty six guys accountable. Like you're gonna
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: have bad days, You're gonna have bad at bats, you're
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: gonna have swings and missus, you're gonna have Oh man,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: I left that thing middle middle and it got hit.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: You know, he got molly wopped into next week. That's
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: gonna happen. You can live with that. You can't live
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: with lack of effort and that there's no ramifications. Nathan.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: That to me when I saw that the first thing,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: and Castile's reaction, Nathan, like Castile's reaction, like there has
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: to be some sort of there has to be some
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: sort of accountability, there has to be some sort of
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: ramifications from that, and Nathan, there wasn't.
• 59:48
  Speaker 8: Well and I you said that the baseball is different
• 59:51
  Speaker 8: than a lot of other sports, and it is, but
• 59:52
  Speaker 8: there are things about leadership and about most sports that
• 59:55
  Speaker 8: I think do cross into baseball, and you really hit
• 59:58
  Speaker 8: on it there, Ian with the idea of account ability.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 8: I mean, you hear so much every time there's a draft,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 8: or a rookie is having a great year, or a
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 8: guy breaks into the big league team, what whatever sport
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 8: it is in what are the themes that you hear.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 8: They need to be taught to be a pro whatever
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 8: that means. You know, they have to be a professional,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 8: and they have to learn how to show up every
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 8: single day and put in their work. And when that
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 8: doesn't happen, there needs to be some sort of mechanism
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 8: in place that gets them aligned back into it. Now,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 8: when we talk about what accountability is, Chris said, as fans,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 8: we want to have the easy thing. We want to
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 8: see an immediate guide doesn't put forth to day plus
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 8: effort immediately gets benched for us. That's the satisfying thing
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 8: that we can see. Maybe there is accountability going on
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 8: behind the scenes that we can't see. But in the
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 8: example that we're siding here with Randy, who again fantastic player,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 8: fantastic trade. He had an amazing first half. He is
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 8: the Mariner's best player through ninety seven games.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Offensive player, offense, best position player, probably overall.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 8: You can, you can, you can split hairs if you want, Yeah,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 8: but he's been really great. And the fact that this
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 8: happened twice within a week, that's the thing that's the
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 8: really makes me raise my eyebrows, like, maybe it happens
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 8: one time, and that tripled down the line that he
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 8: kind of dogged it going after that ended up costing
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 8: him a couple of runs, and Dan has him in
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 8: the clubhouse after the game. We don't see that, but
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 8: they get course corrected and the accountability happens.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: And then they move forward.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 8: But then that it happens again a couple days later,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 8: and you're visibly to your point, Ian seeing his teammates
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 8: on camera reacting negatively in real time.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: That's not a good thing, man.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 8: That all perception is reality, and a lot of this
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 8: stuff and it starts to add up, especially in a
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 8: world where a camera is on every player's face all
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 8: the time, every single game we know how these guys
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 8: feel about these things. So it's just more fuel to
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 8: the fire that you know, who's running the show for
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 8: the Seattlo Marinis clubhouse. Is it Dan Wilson or is
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 8: he just kind of there as like a totem? Is
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 8: he like a good luck charm that they kind of
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 8: rub his head before they run out of the field
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 8: and hope something happens. If so, I bet they stopped
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 8: rubbing his head a long time ago because the good
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 8: luck has run out. And Chris already brought it up.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 8: The interaction that he had with Logan Gilbert on Saturday
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 8: was just I was just not a there's not a
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 8: professional respect there going on in that interaction.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna go to that for a second because
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: this is also how bad it's got.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: Chris.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up because I thought that
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: was an interesting dynamic we used to applaud and celebrate
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: back in the day with whatever of the eighteen managers
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: that Felix had over his career with the Mariners, right,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: because that dude would he he'd just asson fight the manager.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: I'm coming out like like Felix ain't come, he ain't
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: coming out and we love that about Felix. And I'm
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: sure there were a handful of times when he won
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: the argument. I'm sure there were right over the years
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: with whoever it was, Lloyd McLennon, listen, whoever it might
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: have been. They but in that case, Logan wins the argument,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: so to speak, and then the team pays a pretty
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: heavy price afterwards, so then it looks bad for Dan.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: I think that's the unfortunate thing there, like that, that
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: was one of those things like maybe he was doing
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: the right thing, but maybe as the manager, he needed
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: to stick to his what he knew was the right
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Like he went out there to take him out right,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: didn't make the initial move, didn't point to his arm,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: but that was what he did. I just think the
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: Randy thing is just kind of a it's a micro
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: coll It just it shows exactly what where this team is.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: I'm with you, though, Chris, I'll wrap it up with this.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to make a move. I
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: think it's just that August eighth weekend, seventh through ninth
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: weekend is so big, and you know, fifty years and
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: the celebrations, and it's going to be one of the
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: coolest things we see all year in sports, be awesome.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Don't think you can get rid of a Hall of
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: Fame or marin Er Hall of Fame or that before
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: that happens.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 9: Well, and here's the other thing too, the other option.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 9: And this is not meant as a massive insult to
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 9: anybody on the coaching staff, but I don't think there's
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 9: an obvious replacement for him either.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Like Maniacta, not Maniacta.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 9: Here's the thing with Maniacta. And you know, he's a really,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 9: really good dude, and I think he's one of the
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 9: better bench coaches. He's lost two clubhouses in his managerial
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 9: extint he lost the Washington Clubhouse. He lost the Cleveland Cubhouse.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 9: You're really going to take that chance? That seems pretty
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 9: risky to me in such an important season. I think
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 9: if there was like a really obvious answer, if like,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 9: you know, hey, maybe you want to ask Scotty if
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 9: he wants to come on back. No, if there was
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 9: a really obvious answer, all due respect to Acta, I
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 9: think it might be a little bit easier. But when
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 9: you add in the pomp and circumstance that is so
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 9: important to this organization and the fact that I don't
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 9: think there is a great option on the coaching staff
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 9: to replace him. It equals Dan Wilson managing through at
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 9: least the rest of twenty twenty six.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: What's wrong with Dumper? He's got his slugging percentage Chris
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: in the last month is it three twenty erastory two
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: ninety six is a slugging percentage one eight, five six
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: and twenty oh ps. He has all of two home
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: runs since coming back off the injured list as well.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: It doesn't have one in the last ten days. There's
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: just I know, maybe the fatigue, but he had a
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: whole damn offseason. I don't know if I want to buy,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: I get maybe there's bigger issues. You guys, Nathan pointed
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: it out, but what there's just something not right there.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 9: He just it's warning track power right now, which is
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 9: really weird to see from somebody who has shown eighty
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 9: grade power for the last two and a half seasons.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 9: There are and you know what, the bats still look
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 9: good like. He's drawing walks and that does matter. At
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 9: least he's getting on base at a decent clip. Again,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 9: not a good enough clip, but since coming back, the
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 9: on base percentage is good enough. He just doesn't look right.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 9: He doesn't look right, and I do think he looks tired.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 9: I think that we are not seeing these spry.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: Big dumfer that's a weird thing to say.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 9: We are not seeing the energy that we saw from
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 9: cal Rawley last year. We are not seeing and maybe
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 9: it's a lot easier to have energy when you were
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 9: hitting forty home runs in the first half, which is
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 9: what he did last year. I just see a worn
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 9: out dumper. I can't help it. I just see right
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 9: now a guy who was worn out.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: He's striking out Nathan since coming back off the injured list,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: he's striking out at a forty one percent clip oo.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 8: I was just noticing that his strikeout rate is significantly
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 8: higher as overall on the season than it has been
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 8: even in his primers. He's always been a fairly high
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 8: strikeout guy, but it's gotten to another level. To Chris's point,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 8: he's still drawing walks, but man, it feels like he's
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 8: swinging a bat with no sweet spot. Like when you
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 8: watch him hit. It just feels like everything it's like
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 8: me golfing. It's either off the heel or it's off
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 8: the toe and there's just no carry to anything it hits.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 8: It's like watching Justin Smoke out there all over again,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 8: to be honest with you, and it's just it's brutal
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 8: to watch because I do think not only hitting sixty
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 8: home runs, but when he was at his best, and
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 8: when he is at his best, Dumper is such a
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 8: center point of that clubhouse's whole deal, the chemistry, the
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 8: rhythm through which it runs. He I think he helps
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 8: set that accountability tone and that's a lot harder to
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 8: do when you're not producing, and he's not producing, and
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 8: I think that there's a cascading effect there. He helped
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 8: overcome a lot of Dan's shortcomings last year, not just
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 8: by hitting, but by providing great leadership and great accountability
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 8: and setting the tone in that locker room day in
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 8: and day out. And you just can't do that when
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 8: you're hitting one sixty nine and slugging three ten. Man like,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 8: that's just not going to fly the same way. So
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 8: they need him to get right, but they needed him
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 8: to get right all season long. It's not fair if
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 8: you've built the roster where like one guy having an
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 8: offseason is leading to what we've been watching for the
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 8: last three months. Then that's not a very well constructed roster.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 8: So it's really unfortunate. I bet nobody hates this more
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 8: than cal Rawly, and all you can hope is that
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 8: he gets the rest he needs over the breaking, comes
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 8: back looks more like himself.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna take you quick, baks.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you guys a question to wrap it
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: up next. And here's the question, so I'll give you
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: some time to think about it. What's this team's biggest problem?
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: It's the old softy You can only have one. Is
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: it the manager? Is it rot? This is a Nathan
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: roster construction? Is it the offense? Is it the shorthanded bullpen?
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: What is the number one thing that is wrong with
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: this team that we had such high expectations for and
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: they can still reach all those expectations. Let's point that out.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: That can still happen. But what's the number one problem,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: the number one thing that needs to be dressed? Is
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: it manager? Is it? Roster? What is it? And can
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: they address that after the All Star break to hit
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: where they need to hit on this year fifty of
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: the year, We'll ask the boys that text to wrap
• 1:08:45
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  Speaker 5: Okay, let's get to it.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: Wrapping up, we go a little extra segment today with
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: the boys. But I just I just kind of want
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: to put a rap on things heading the All Star
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: break and Nathan's not here next week, so heading into
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: the All Star break as we go down, and this
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: team again a game buble of five hundred, very much
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: in the mix still for the playoffs, and I mean
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: everything's still on the table in that regard, but so
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: far kind of uninspiring and a disappointing season thus far
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: through the ninety seven games. Chris, what is the biggest
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: issue with this team, manager, offense, whatever it is? Pick
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: it out and is it fixable?
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 9: No, because the biggest issue is where they built the
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 9: stadium on that indigenous barre of ground.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: It's pretty obvious that just think you're just not going
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: to fix that.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 9: I know that the new owner of the Seahawks has
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 9: a lot of money, so maybe they can. By the way,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 9: it'll be onbably be sun Micro sit chips Field pretty soon.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 9: I would imagine something like that's about to happen, but it.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Could be the case. Yeah.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 9: The biggest issue with this team is, yes, like there
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 9: are the starting pitching has not been consistent enough. The
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 9: lineup doesn't ever get it done. And I know that's
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 9: slightly hyperbolic, but not really ever get it done in
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 9: the clutch situations, Like, think about how many clutch hits
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 9: that I know Josh Naylor was only here for a
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 9: third of a season. Think of how many clutch hits
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 9: that dude had in that one third of a season.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 9: Think about how many clutch hits Big Dumper came up with.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 9: Think about the ever so underrated in the clutch in
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 9: my opinion, Julio Rodriguez. Think about how many clutch hits
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 9: he's had, and he's had a couple of moments here.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: They don't get it done.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 9: The bullpen, the back end of this bullpen sucks out
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 9: loud guys like Michael Rucker and Nick Devila, who pitched
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 9: really well yesterday.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: By the way, in fact, how.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 9: Can address that is behind a pathetic like they have
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 9: to go fix that. The lineup doesn't show the consistency
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 9: that we want. There's just so many issues.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 9: There are reasons to believe that things can get better
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 9: in all of those things. But it's asking a lot.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 9: It's asking a lot to become a World Series contender.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 9: And you know I talked about it before where I
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 9: said I regret my Journey destination comment. I don't regret
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 9: saying that I demand this team goes to the World
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 9: Series at all. And I still demand that this team
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 9: goes to the World Series. I still will say anything
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 9: but a trip to the World Series for this year
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 9: will be a massive disappointment. But there's nothing I've seen
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 9: over these ninety seven games that suggest they're ready to go.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 9: So my answer to your question is what is wrong?
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 9: My answer is yes, Nathan.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 8: I'll give it more specific answer because it's driving me
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 8: up the freaking wall. It hasn't driven me up the
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 8: wall all year long. This team has a great pitching staff. Specifically,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 8: the starters are great. They're fundamentally great because they don't
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 8: allow free passes. They have the best walk rate in
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 8: all of baseball. Kudos to them. That's starters and relievers combined,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 8: they allow the fewest number of walks per nine inteans
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 8: of any group. They don't strike out a lot of guys.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 8: They don't strike out nobody, but they're right around league
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 8: average at I think thirteenth and strikeout right. That means
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 8: there's a lot of balls in play, and that means
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 8: that there's a lot of guys who have to both
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 8: in succession, get to the ball, successfully field it, and
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 8: then throw it to the right base accurately. And that's
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 8: the part of this roster that I find unforgivable. This
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 8: is the worst defensive Mariners team I have ever seen
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 8: in my entire life, and I cannot handle watching them
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 8: do it for another game. We're not talking about like
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 8: really hard plays. We're talking about the most routine plays
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 8: you've ever seen in your life, and they screw them
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 8: up day after day after day, play after play after play.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 8: I don't know how you fix it, because none of
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 8: them are any good at defense. But it is the
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 8: thing about this team that drives me the most.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: Insane one if that drives the pitchers insane as well, energy.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: Because for those I mean, no one can see our
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: zoom here, but the funniest thing about Nathan explaining that
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: is Chris being so mad at himself that he forgot
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: to mention the defense bad.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: What are you doing?
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: I was so worried he was gonna take my answer.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 5: Oh so, Chrissy, I owe you one so much.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: It's so bad.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 9: And that's one of the things too, is like, you know,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 9: you see them not having a lot of fun out there,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 9: and you think, oh, this is a gritty, fundamental team,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 9: and then you see this team's fundamental suck ass.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: They're terrible fundamentally.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 9: Did you see what Weston freaking Wilson did at the
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 9: end of that game in extra innings, just taking off
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 9: for third base because why the f not I got
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 9: somewhere to go? I guess like that's not a well
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 9: coached team. This team doesn't like play up because of
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 9: the coaching from this baseball team. There's no justification for
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 9: any of this being good enough.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 5: There's just none.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 9: I don't care about the injuries, and I don't care
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 9: about all of the excuses people want to make. This
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 9: team just isn't very good, and the fun fundamentals of
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 9: this team the thing you think would be well, that's
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 9: why we're keeping them on because he's just they're coaching
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 9: them up. And Perry Hill, he's just a God's gift
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 9: to coaching infielders. If Peace God's gift to infielders, then
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 9: these guys must just be unbelievably terrible. And I don't
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 9: believe they're unbelievably terrible. I just believe they're terrible. This
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 9: team sucks. I'm so mad. Now, can I go home?
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 6: No?
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: Wow, the frustration I'm forgetting. The defense is fantastic.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 5: Air.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: What a perfect way, a perfect way to do this.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: And yet I'm as I sit here and all this,
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: and I still think I would not I'm telling you
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: guys right now, what is the day to day, July thirteenth,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. I still would not be surprised if
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: this team ends up playing in the World Series this
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: year for the first time at all.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: Not at all.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm really I really think, yeah, I really
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: think that could happen. I mean, I really do think
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: that this is I think there's there's a part of
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: me that are going through these things on Mondays and
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: the rest of the week when I'm just talking about
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: them and I'm thinking, yeah, this is frustrating, or this is,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, this will be the year we're gonna
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: go back and go God, can you believe what we
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: were saying back? But it was true. Everything nothing that
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: has been said is untrue. But it also doesn't mean
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: it can't flip and they can't all of a sudden
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: get going. They if they're just okay after the All
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: Star break, they're probably still going to be a playoff team, right,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: and then you don't have to worry about the back
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: end because then you do use two of your starters
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: as leverage. Guys, Right, it does help you out a
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: little bit in that regard, because that is the problem
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: right now. No bat Matt Brash is an issue. I
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: know injuries can't be an excuse, but that is an issue.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: But it's the six man rotation is an issue, the
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: piggyback thing, whatever we're doing it. And as good as
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: the starting pitching is, Guys, there's an All Star Game
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: being played in Philadelphia tomorrow and they don't have a
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: picture on that staff. Yeah, and I know that's not
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: the be all to end all, but that does say something.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: No one's had that year. No, none of those starters
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: have had the year that you would I mean, in theory,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: you should have two probably starters on that all star roster.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: Whether they could pitch or not depending on the days,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. They have none, right, and Muno certainly isn't
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: hasn't been an All Star this year. But that doesn't
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: mean they can't turn it around. Although that, you know,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: the defense I'm not sure is going to get better, right,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: that's not going to change.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: Now, That's something that we knew coming into the season.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: If you if we go back to OURMULLI want Monday
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: on opening Day, I'm yes, can tell you that this
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: was a concern going into.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: That was probably a conversation that we had. All Right, Nathan,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: you get next week off, Chris, you do not. We'll
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: find somebody to play the role of Nathan Bishop again,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: probably be Anderson Hurst who played the role filling in
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: earlier as the role of Nathan Bishop. By the way,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: how was Wazu wazoo visit this weekend?
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 5: H Yeah it was. We had a great time.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, getting getting the oldest ready for getting the oldest
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 8: ready for college is going to be a wild experience. Yeah,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 8: Chris has given us the thumbs down. It's fine. Can
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 8: I just really quick I know, we gotta go. I
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 8: just wanted to point out something really quick for everybody
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 8: to keep in mind since I have to leave for
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 8: a week that if they don't go for and to
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 8: and better on this upcoming homestand I think they're royally
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 8: screwed because after that they played Texas Dodgers, Minnesota, Detroit, Tampa, Bay,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 8: New York, Houston, Milwaukee, Chicago, Cubs, Philadelphia and Toronto and
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 8: Boston before September first, I don't know if they've got
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 8: it in the tank. If they don't have a good
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 8: home stand coming out of the break, they better get
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 8: it together quickly.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: Well, you're playing the Giants, I mean you should get
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: it well, I guess saying.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 8: Don't don't don't do it Just the most disgustingly toxic
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 8: matchup you could possibly imagine.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: The two teams that hate each other the most right
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 5: out of the All Star break have fun.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: Oh goodness, all right, Chris Mile, why are you doing
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: anything this week? Are you're taking a few days off?
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: You and Dumper?
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 9: Uh So, I just posted by the way, shock no
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 9: MLB draft questions. Boy, just it's really disappointed.
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  Speaker 1: That might be next week. I'm sure. Well, I mean
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. If you don't, I don't know if
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: you know they went one and five last week. Sir.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, okay, yeah, I think I did figure that out.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 9: But I just posted my mile Wi video recapping the
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 9: draft talking about the first ten selections and then a
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 9: couple other guys who could potentially help them, and then
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 9: I'll probably just sob in a couple other videos before
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 9: I have to do something else on Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: Is there a chance Who's who's the quickest path to
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  Speaker 1: the mL to Major League Baseball for this on the draft?
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  Speaker 6: Uh?
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  Speaker 9: Probably Ace Reese their first round pick, plus plus power
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  Speaker 9: if you just ignore the defense and you want to
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 9: make him a DH or left fielder.
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  Speaker 2: I think that he's excellent help them.
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  Speaker 5: We just doesn't. So that's good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very funny.
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  Speaker 9: They did draft a couple of good defensive players in
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 9: this draft, but they did draft a couple of guys
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 9: who they.
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  Speaker 4: Strike out quite a bit, and they're not the greatest
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 4: defensive players as well. So they have a photos for
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 4: the Mariners for just rubbing it in.
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  Speaker 1: That's Chris, that's Nathan. We'll be back with us simply
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  Speaker 1: We'll take a break, come back, recap the Seahawks sale
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  Speaker 1: nausey with the Moiwap guys. And now we have all
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• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: a good point about the schedule after the next six games.
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  Speaker 1: Not easy. We have World Cup semi finals tomorrow, Yeah
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: we do. Is it the final tomorrow?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 1: A lot of criticism I saw online for the last
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  Speaker 1: couple of days about the semi finals being played midweek
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  Speaker 1: at noon Pacific three Eastern time.
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  Speaker 3: Guys, Remember, the US is not the only team, to
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  Speaker 3: be right, and I.
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  Speaker 1: Do understand that only country. I do understand that I
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  Speaker 1: would I would be interesting to see when they've been played,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: when the game has been played elsewhere where they played
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  Speaker 1: at night, because I don't think like the Olympics are
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: never staged, so the countries that are doing well can
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: see them at an opportune time, right, But I wonder
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: if it was there an anticipation the US wasn't gonna
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: be there, so we don't care. Stadiums will be full,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: it'll be fine. TV numbers will drop dramatically and they
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  Speaker 1: have anyway since since he has got Aliminade here here.
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  Speaker 2: But the FIFA's not worried about doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: Care about Yeah, don't care about here when you get back.
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  Speaker 1: It was a great story in the athletic Today, I
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: want to do a little bit deeper dive on the
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: whole Soccer is too expensive. Crap, I'm so sick of this.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: It's just the Instead of looking inherently at problems like coaching,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: player development and things like that, we're just going to
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: call the cost the dumbest thing you're going to hear.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't ask you to play this. Worry
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  Speaker 1: about it? Wait, do you have it?
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  Speaker 3: Might just a second, I'm looking. I thought I had
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  Speaker 3: it there.
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  Speaker 1: It is fire away.
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  Speaker 6: here today.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: Really, it's really the dumbest thing we've heard for the
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: last month. To be honest with you, the best athletes
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: aren't playing soccer in the US, all right, I. The
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: best athlete isn't necessarily going to be the best player
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: in the next two semi final rounds either. There's great
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: athletes playing soccer. The best athlete, like the best athlete,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily Messi is not the best athlete.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: Aleticism is not the US men's national team's problem.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: And nor is it a concern for anybody else. You
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: don't pick a team going boy that he's the most
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: athletic person out here, like you. Messi is not an
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: athletic dude.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 3: No, he's a five to six tiny guy who is
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: just skilled.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: The unbelief Harry Kane is a great finisher, correct, and
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: they have the best passing stats in the World Cup,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: does England. That doesn't necessarily mean that the best athletes
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: to get to the semi finals. It's just but when
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: you get back, I'm gone for the rest of this week.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: You're gone the next week. Yeah, we get back, We're
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: gonna a little deeper dive because you've coached, Yes, and
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: like I saw a great thing today, Like it costs
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: too much? Well, who's we just have pe von reichbrowner
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: On I could have asked him. I mean he's there,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: he's working hard right now to make sure drewids Glenn
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: doesn't go away. Green space and stuff like that. But
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: here's the thing. If it's a public green space park,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: what have you. Someone has to maintain that. Someone has
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: to pay for that, Like it comes into coaches have
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: to be paid. Yes, they do as much time as
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: they put into it. This isn't you soccer where you're
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: just gonna go out there once a week, twice a
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: week for a practice soccer. Yeah, yeah, that's not the case.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, you want to make sure
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: you have the right people around your kids. There's background
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: checks and other things. You're trying to get the best
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: around them. Like it's just but well, the best athletes
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: aren't playing The best athletes aren't playing baseball right now,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: we're really good in baseball. The best athletes are definitely
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: not playing hockey. We just want to flip and gold
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: medal in hockey. It's not about the best athlete. Well,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: we'll get to that later on. Just every time I
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: hear that, I just want to put my hand feet all.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: I'm like, God, what are we talking about?
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: Before I get back to Mariners and some Seahawks stuff,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: our buddy Tim Booth did write a story. Feels like
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: I've heard this before, Wondering tomorrow when Adam Silver meets
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: with the media ahead of all the Summer League stuff
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: in Vegas. Doesn't sound like we're going to get any
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: kind of tangible update for Seattle. But as Tim wrote,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: where does Seattle sit at this point with the situation?
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: That seems straightforward compared to the traffic jam of potential
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: suitors in Vegas. While Silver has replease set expects to
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: see multiple bidders in each market, Seattle has remained a
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: one bid city wall Vegas. That is not the case.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: Did we not talk about this last week? I think
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: we did.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, we did.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: I do believe so. Tim's a smart man. Not that
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: he's listening to me, although he did text something about
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: writing this story because he was listening to us and
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: not because we said it. But he says, Hey, we're
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: on the same page. I'm writing a story. He was
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: already And that's the case. The muddied waters in Vegas.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: Tomorrow will be interesting. Will we get something tangible from
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: Adam Silver about the about the expansion timeline. We're not
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: going to expect to hear, Hey, Seattle got a team,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: it's Melinda French Gates one roof and Samantha Hallway. But
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: also Vegas has a team and it's either the Clangoles
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: or Bill Fult. We're not gonna hear that tomorrow. Doesn't
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: sound like. Let something goes crazy and we hear Seattle
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: gets a bit and we're waiting on Vegas. I just
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: can't see that being the case. It would be sped
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: up that way. But I know Tim's down there covering it,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: so we'll see what he gets down there in Vegas
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: if you can get off of Fremont Street. Okay, So
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: that's that's the one thing happening that kind of keep
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: an eye on, But I don't expect much there. Seahawks
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: got sold. Did you think about this though? For a second.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: Let's assume because the Seahawks sale, the wife is going
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: to be the front and center. I guess the controlling owner, right,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: So that Addsamantle Halloway and more than likely move Li
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: into French Gates.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: Three of our four major pro sports franchises would be.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: Run by women, run by women.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: Kind of cool.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really cool.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: Very Seattle, but very cool. I mean, hey, you know what,
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: take all three of them. I don't careful. I mean,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: we don't know much about the Seahawks, right, we don't
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: know anything about that yet. But to me, it just
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It's all about having the right person period
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: that percent, and we'll see what goes on. We did
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: ask the question earlier about the Seahawks. We'll get to
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: those coming up at the bottom of the four nine,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: four or five to one. What concerns you, if anything,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: about the Seahawks sale? Are you okay with it? Are
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: you just this was so inevitable was going to happen. Yes,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: and we all knew it was going to happen and
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 1: we were going down that road. I I find myself
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: a little less concerned with it, other than hoping that
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: they keep everybody on the business side of the football side.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine you mess with it we've gone through.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: But there is there is despite the money, there is
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: that history of Ken bearing. There is that thought that
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: other owners do come in and they buy teams and
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: they want to put their own stamp on things. They
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: want to do their own thing. This thing's humming along, yeah,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: on and off the field. So you would hope that
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: they would be smart enough to just to let the
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: people do their thing. They buy it. It's an investment.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: Pe von Reichbauer was on with this earlier. Can Count
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: of Council member said's an investment. You know it's a business,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: but it's an investment. Here's the thing with the business.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: You have certain revenue streams which you kind of cap out,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: depending on how your building's build, how many suitets you have,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: what kind of corporate partnerships you can have, how many
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: are exclusives you have Pepsi or Coke ab or Miller Likete,
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah, all those things. Alaska is your airlines,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: not Delta or Delta's airlines on Alaska, whatever it is,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: you have those exclusives. So you do cap it in
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: some spots. But the big money comes in from the media,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: right steal It's almost five hundred million dollars per team.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: That's where you get the big money. Right, So this
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: is more of an investment. You're not like, God, we're
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: not hitting budget, We're not hitting budget this year with
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: the NFL team, We're not we're not hitting budget. I
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: mean that four fifty only goes so far. I mean,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know how we can make it work.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: If only we had grass fields. Man, you were gonna
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: ask something. Oh yeah, I just think for.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: The most likely place that this get this situation gets
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: muddied is with the stadium. So I'm just wondering, do
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 3: you have any sort of worry whatsoever with with the stadium.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: And we just saw Chicago they moved, not like actually
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: moved location or like to it.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: Well, they're trying to move to Indiana.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: Still in the Chicago Ish metro area.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: Right the Soldier Field when they re when they renovated
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: Soldier Field, it was done so poorly right that it's
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: it's you feel like anybody if you see our fans
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: have been too a game there. You know, you feel
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: like you're cramped, you feel like you're just kind of
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: shoved together. They it's like we kind of talked about,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: it's like they put a spaceship inside of the old
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: Soldier Field, brick out of facade outside. That's kind of
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: what it looks like. It was just a poorly it's
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: in some ways, it's very key arena like outside of
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: Soldier Field was iconic and historic and the Sales Center
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: Coliseum was a former pavilion for a World's Fair. But
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: it's you get the point. It was just done on
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: the cheap. It just wasn't done well. And there's other
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: opportunities for land and things like that that makes sense.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: I don't think we don't have any land in Seattle.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: And somebody wrote about that this morning. It might have
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: been condoted or somebody in the Times wrote about It's
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: not like we have an option in the city to
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: build a new stadium unless you want to just have
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: a two year process where season ends, demolished, lumin Field,
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: rebuild it, play at Husky Stadium for two years. I mean,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: I guess if someone wants and they would have to
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: finance it themselves, that's a billion plus dollars a couple
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: billion probably to redo it.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: After just spending nine plus right.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, even if you were to do and
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: build a building on the east side somewhere right, which
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: has been talked about with the NBA, if a different
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: group came in and on it. When they build a building, yeah,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: but they still have to play two years probably in
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: Kean in climate Plagerina just doesn't make sense. And I'll see,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: And there's no obvious market that the NFL needs and
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: wants to go to that you would move Seattle. It's
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: a very successful franchise. Like, none of the warning signs
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: that we had with the Sonics necessarily exist with the
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: Seahawks and the sale.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: Or right now with Portland or with Portland.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like there are you know. I was talking with
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: guys today, I mean you know, I know Chad Doing
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: was on with Softy a couple of weeks ago and
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: he's like, Oh, there's no problem, blah blah blah. I'm
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: like these guys I was talking today in Portland. They're like, yeah, man,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: this is a big concern. We're not sure if the
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: county is going to go ahead and pass the money.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: There's a big pushback on it from a lot of
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: citizens in the area. Nobody wants to spend money on it.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: We don't have those issues here. None of the red
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: flags for the Sonics, Blazers, what have you really exist
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: outside of it's a new ownership group. New ownership group
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: for the Sonics was a guy that was out of state,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: but he had a building ready to go and had
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: a team that he could move there. And oh, by
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: the way, they had hosted the NBA for the previous
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: year because of Hurricane and Katrina. We don't just find
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: a dot to connect there aren't. Yeah, they're just arnity.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: And you know, loom and Field just was on full
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: display for the world to see with the FIFA World Cup.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: And I know it's a different sport, but you know what,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: it seemed to work just fine for the biggest, the
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: biggest sporting event that the world has every four years,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: and that would be the World Cup. It seemed to
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: work just fine. I think for eight to ten NFL
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: games a year, it's still just fine.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you said it best in our interview
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: earlier today. It's just PTSD amongst fans.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: And totally understandable. Yeah, it's completely understanding. If I'm like,
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: very understandable if you're a fan. Yeah, right, Like if
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: like you're sitting here in Seattle's like, damn, Like we're
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: eighteen years ago, two weeks ago, eighteen years ago, we lost.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: We lost the Sonics on that day in July second,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. We that's that is one hundred
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: very understandable. I just don't see any of those things.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: And keeping in mind too, I'm sure during the process
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: of the purchase of the Seahawks, was you plan on
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: keeping the team here, we don't want you to move it. Yes,
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: that's what the plan is. We're not moving it. Whereas
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: when when Howard sold the Sonics to Clayton Bennett, there
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: were no secrets like he was going to try to
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: move the team to Oklahoma City. That was not like,
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: that was never God, I remember, I've told this story
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: a million times. I remember sitting here. I was down
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: in Portland, still working for the fan down of Portland,
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: and I was listening online that day because it was like, Yeah,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: this is the most significant. This is huge Sonics getting
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: sold to a guy that just basically got into the
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: good graces with the NBA for doing a doing them
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: a favor and hosting the New Orleans franchise for a
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: year in Oklahoma City. There's a massive problem with Key Arena.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: We all know that. And I remember listening to Groz
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: specifically that day. The Groz was on and Groz said
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: from this like his open his show, saying, this is
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: the end of the Sonics in Seattle. I'm paraphrasing, but
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: that's what he said, and I'm thinking, no, Groz, no way.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: But yeah, he was right. That's not the case here.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: That that is that is just not the case.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: There's none of that same sentiment.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's any I don't think that's any
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: kind of a problem here all right now. I know
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: I understand people wish there was local ownership. I thought
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: Pete did a good job as saying, hey, there wasn't.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: There wasn't local ownership, wasn't available for that price, wasn't available. Yeah,
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: it just wasn't there. Mariners. Just to wrap things up,
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: the boys were on one today. I want to play
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: this again. I think this is powerful stuff. You know,
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: Chuck is you know, we always got Chucks our baseball guy. Yeah, Chuck.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: Chuck is a baseball savant. The guy watches every game,
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: knows every roster.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: He is.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: He has a passion for the sport that's expert. And
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: I think he's got a passion for the sport that
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: is matched on our station only by Hugh Millen's passion
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: for football.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 2: I agree right like you to the.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: Point of I'm going to do a deep dive on
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: the most little small things in the world, because I
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: have this great passion for the game, which is makes
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: him great on the air. I'm talking about Hugh makes
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: Chuck great on the air for us with baseball because
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: he cares and he studies it, He's into it, and
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: I know that these are the things you do not
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: take lightly as a host, especially someone a host that
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: goes down to spring training every year is in you know,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: with those guys. It's something that you have to be
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: very careful if you're going to say what Chuck said
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: this morning.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 10: The manager's not getting the most out of the team.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 10: And this is too important of a season. There's too
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 10: much at stake. It's the fiftieth anniversary. We've never made
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 10: the World Series. We may have a lockout next year.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 10: We can't let it end by missing the playoffs in
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 10: a year in which the American League is down like
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 10: never before. So I endorse a managerial change this morning. Officially,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 10: I don't think they'll do it, but that's my statement
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 10: on a Monday morning.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: This is the fire Dan Wilson Show on Chuck and Buck.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 10: And again I don't take that lightly, but I think
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 10: it's time. This team needs a new boss a new voice,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 10: and they need a shakeup. They need to be reminded.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 10: You just can't play like garbage and not expect.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: Bad things to happen. And I'd like to see it
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: happen before we play another game. Yeah, I think you know,
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: Dan Wilson's strength is, you know, from what we understand
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: is the clubhouse, right, yes, and the relationships, and that
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: was the difference between him and Scott's service. If those
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: guys really cared about Dan Wilson, Randy and others, they'd
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: start playing like it. I don't think it'll happen. I
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: think we all agree upon that. I just think that
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: the optics of it during August.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: It would really go a long way if they did.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: For showing the Mariners their show, Mariners showing their fans
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: that they don't care about the ceremonial aspect of this stuff,
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: which a lot of people think they care more about
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: that than well.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: I think I think multiple things can be true, right, Like,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: you can really celebrate your history of fifty years and
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: I know they haven't been in the World Series, but
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: damn it, We've got an major League Baseball team for
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: fifty years, and I've worked I've said this before. I've
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: worked in two markets that didn't Salt in Portland, and
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: it sucks not having a major League baseball team in
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: the summer months. It's awesome. And our team, yes, we'd
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: like them to be better one hundred percent like them
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: to be better. And they've been better lately under Jerry
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: Dipodal fifty four percent. Jokes aside, they have been better.
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: They get to the playoffs the last Cup two of
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: the last three years. Like they're they're they're making their
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: inroads and they're having winning records. I don't care about
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: winning records much. They care about the playoffs, but they're
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: getting there. You can celebrate fifty years. I mean, I
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: have so many great memories growing up as a kid
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: of going to games in the Kingdome and watching Harold
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: Reynolds and Alvin Davis and guys like that, watching a
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: young Ken Griffy junior hell going back even further than that,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: and Jimmy Leafiever getting a first ever winning season for
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: this franchise. That was massive. Listening to Dave Niehause, the
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: greatest to ever call a game on baseball, sorry, Vincecully,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: Dave was unbelievable and he was ours. It's why he's
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. We can celebrate all of
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: that at the same time, we can also expect them
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: to be a team, as Chucks said, in a year
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: in which you really don't want to miss this year
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: because if you're in So I told those guys earlier,
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: would not show, would it would? We will all be
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: shocked if they got to the World Series? No, no, no,
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: of course not. But this is they're in a tough situation.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: I think that's the other part of it. They created
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: the situation. So I'm not getting them one hundred percent out,
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: but they're in a tough situation. If you didn't have
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: August seventh through ninth weekend, that that celebration coming up,
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: if you didn't have that, didn't have all the hoop
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: looscile rounding your fifty years and all that, would the
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: decision be easier. I don't know if it would. I
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: Firing Scott's service is one thing, Firing Dan Wilson's another. Yeah.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 3: I just I just if you're serious about taking the
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 3: next step, which we were told multiple times.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: I wish I wish we could all look into Crystal
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: Ball and understand and know would it really get you
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: to the next step.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: Here's my take.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: It cal all of a sudden, the start hitting because
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: you have taken the next step unless he decides he
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: wants to hit well.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: And I like how Chuck distinguished. They need a leadership
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: change and they need to shake up. Those are two
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: different things. Yes, having a different guy to be the
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 3: to be your manager, plus telling the players that this
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: isn't good enough, It does two different things, right, That's
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: kind of what happened with Philadelphia earlier this year. But
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 3: the other thing, and you you asked the question during
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: molliwob is he the biggest issue. I don't think he's
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 3: the biggest issue, but I think he's the first thing
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: that needs to happen to get these guys on the
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: right page.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: Well, if it happens, let me know. I'll be tuned
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: out for a little while. Yes, four nine four five one.
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• 1:38:43
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• 1:39:15
  Speaker 11: Kind of taking await and see approached with this new ownership.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 11: It's sad that there wasn't local ownership.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 4: That's okay. I'm not really tripping about that.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 11: I'll never say never when it comes to a possible move.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 11: You know, there's there's always stuff that they find with
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 11: these stadiums that there's some kind of issue with or whatever,
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 11: and they could try to move into Mexico City.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 4: Would like to go there.
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 11: But more I'm more concerned about culture, and I'm concerned
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 11: about ownership, A cheap ownership. That's That's really all I'm
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 11: concerned about.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah, I tend to agree with most of what
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: you said. Firelight.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 12: Hey you guys chip here, I have somehow managed to
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 12: remain sober today despite listening If people talk about.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 9: The Mariners, I think we forget as human beings that
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 9: sometimes we can just say things, just say the truth.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 12: And I wish Dan Wilson would just come out and say,
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 12: you know what, I don't know what the.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 4: Hell Randy's doing out there.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 9: We need his bat in the lineup, but we're not
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 9: gonna win a World Series or even make one with
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 9: him playing defense like that.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 4: And he knows that, so go ask him.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 5: Just say it, AKA, put your plums on the table.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 9: Otherwise this season funnels back to the same three words
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 9: they always do.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 4: Not this year.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: I like the ed Zel reference put the plums on
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: the table? Uh four two five. Jerry isn't firing his
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: sock puppets, so Dan is here to say stay. Chris
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: brought this up before. A lot of people feel like
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: it wasn't necessarily Jerry's higher I don't know. I don't
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: know if it was or wasn't.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 3: There is a lot of sentiment that the Mariners slash
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 3: Jerry Depoto hired Dan Wilson because he was a guest man.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 3: I pushed back on that quite a bit because service
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 3: was Jerry's guy. That's that's if you really want to say, hey,
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 3: he's this is the guy. He really wants to have
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 3: in charge that with service, and I think this is
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 3: more of an ownership higher than anything else, kind of
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: knowing that Dan Wilson had a lot of ties obviously
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: with the team and former catcher, and it was an
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: easy fix for a lot of people, but may not
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 3: be as involved on the baseball side of things as
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: as someone like carry to Poto obviously.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: Back to the Seahawks two five three, my concern with
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: the Seahawks new ownership is not the parents, it's the son.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: I think he might try to flex his political muscle
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: force out some very good people. Maybe not right away,
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: but down the road. I think you're just i'll be
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: honest with you're just guessing there, Like I don't we
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: don't know that. Yeah, I mean, guys that would I
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: guess that would be a concern. Yeah, right, sure, Yeah,
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: that's what I mean. Somebody else mentioned to salary cap league.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: I don't care about the ownership group, No, you just
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: want to see him do their things right way, Like
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: some of the things they do the right way. I'll
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: just use this for example. They two years ago. I
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: think it was one of those raise that the Players
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: Union does or NFLPA or like the athletic had published
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: published there was they ranked bottom third in facilities. Not
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: so much locker room, but it was just like the
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: training room, the rehab areas, you know, hot tubs and whatever.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: They're doing that stuff at YEP. And if you remember
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: last year, they did this massive renovation on that bottom
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: floor that's on the southwest corner of the Virginia Mason
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: Athletics Center to upgrade all those things to the cost
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: of a lot of money. Right, So they do listen,
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: and they also do spend if need be on something
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: that has you know, it needs to get done right,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: But you could certainly get away with not doing it.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that would, right, a lot
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 3: of voters that would. Yeah, I think we have may
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 3: have to play our dumbest thing open again because of
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 3: this text file.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: Oh what is it?
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: Two five three? Why would anyone in America play soccer?
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 3: There's no money, no fame, and girls do not care
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 3: about soccer. How often do kids in America go play
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 3: pick up soccer? There's a lot better sports in America
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 3: to play that are more fun.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: How often do people play pick up football's? And the
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: answer is never real football?
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and pickup soccer is extremely popular.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: Well, i'll give you one. One's lost to me. Saw
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: somebody playing pick up baseball baseball, not softball, not slow
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: pitch beer league, right baseball, Right, it never happens pick
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: up basketball hundred percent. You might That might be La
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: Fitness guy texted in right there. I know I know
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: La Fitness Guy because I live with one of them.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: I live with La Fitness Guy. Yeah, you know, try
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: to relive the glory days of the North Peach of
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: Sound League, you know, going against Camp Litter or something.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: But it's it's like, but so you play pickup hoops
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: and you play pickup soccer. I got buddies that play pickups.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: The guy that's one friend that plays every Friday night.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, I can stop it.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 8: Stop it.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: Somebody's mad at me about blanking on Utah so much.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: Get over the Mormon religion, dude, you haven't lived here
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: in a long time. Things have changed here in Utah.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: Mayor mv is bitter for not reason, for a state
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: that was founded on religion.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 6: We get it.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: You hate Mormons. I don't hate Mormons, but I have
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: a lot of friends in their Mormons. I think your
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: religion is a cult. But I don't hate Mormons. I
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: don't hate somebody just because of what religion they're in.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: I was fascinated by the religion when I live there,
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you, like morbidly fascinated by it.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: Right, It's almost like kind of a research project.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: I followed by there's a couple of instagrams I follow
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: with people that are, like, you know, Mormon influencers. I'm
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: fascinated by it. I also don't believe in anything that
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: they have to filling for them. And you can't hear
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: what you're mad because I said that they're not going
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: to have the NFL probably would never go to Utah
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: because they don't want to play on Sundays. There's nothing wrong,
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: that's a fact.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: It is a fact.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: Your your big school b why you refuses to play
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: on Sundays so everyone has to cater to your damn
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: needs in the NCAA tournament every year. I don't hate
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: I don't hate Mormons. I think your religion is weird.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: That's just I'm not sure it was a religion. Okay,
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: that's all. Relax, Relax, I have I need to go
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: back there and work. I need to just I need
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: to quit and go back there and get a job.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: And I mean I could be hated here a little
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: bit new rivalry, but I could really be hated there.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: I could really be hated there.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 12: I do have another talkback all right far away, Hey,
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 12: Dan Wilson here, tough road trip, you know. Analytics tell
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 12: me that not just that, but the one in five
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 12: record put Rutger in the first game of the tenth
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 12: for no apparent reason, you know, and had a tough
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 12: break there. He fought hard, fought hard with the analytics
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 12: that I put in and didn't work out for us.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 12: But you know, the guys continue to fight hard, you know.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 12: And I have no feel for the game. Much like
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 12: our current president on inflation. We're going to continue to
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 12: fight hard, you know, and just keep sticking to the analytics,
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 12: you know, and just wait for Refstatter to return.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: Wait for wait, when is Robbie back?
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: God, be back after the break?
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 7: Uh?
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 5: By the.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: Somebody was texting or tweeting or something. That's this weekend.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: I feel bad for Dan, like do you? He says
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  Speaker 1: every every loss, tough one tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Tough one tonight.
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  Speaker 1: It's tough one today.
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  Speaker 3: We need like we need to find the recordings of
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  Speaker 3: every single one of his lost press conferences and play.
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  Speaker 2: It back to back and see how different they sound.
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  Speaker 1: If the Maritors the two of six, if the Marias
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  Speaker 1: were a hockey team with Dan, Dan still have his job. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not in this town.
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  Speaker 2: Probably not.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like, I don't know if you know this.
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  Speaker 1: The guys at Northgate they don't mind firing coaches. It's
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  Speaker 1: not working. You're done, You're done, You're out. Thanks for coming.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see. I think that's about it. We are missing
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  Speaker 1: an explosive big dumper in our lineup, Yes we are.
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  Speaker 1: Will leave it at that. We'll come back and check
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  Speaker 1: in with Faine next. All right, Softy off again this week.
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  Speaker 1: Faanal join us in just a couple of seconds. I've
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  Speaker 1: had the MLB network up all day. Anders okay, gaate
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  Speaker 1: raayed workout day for the All Star Game.
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  Speaker 2: Oh there you go.
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  Speaker 1: Ihead of the home run derby later tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Nice. But you got home on You got some juice
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  Speaker 2: on it.
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  Speaker 1: I got no juice on it. I do believe this
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  Speaker 1: is and I don't like All Star games anyway. This
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  Speaker 1: might be the least enthusiastic I've ever been for this event.
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  Speaker 3: Well, considering we just trashed our one participant in it
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  Speaker 3: for an entire hour.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's sound about right.
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  Speaker 1: At some point two, doesn't the player have to be responsible? Yes? Like,
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  Speaker 1: I know, we spent a lot of time. I know
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  Speaker 1: Chuck this morning was on Dan. We played that a
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  Speaker 1: couple of times, wanting to change. Talked about the mole
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  Speaker 1: loogue guys at some point too. Don't you have to
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  Speaker 1: We've used this term before on the golf course. Play better? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: play better? Just play better? Like maybe you as a
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: player need to be better. Maybe I don't know, you
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: as the dumper need to be better, Randy, maybe hustle better. Whatever,
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, this All Star game whatever. Dick fan is here,
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  Speaker 1: he's here.
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  Speaker 13: Oh yes, I heard the whole mallywop hour am I
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  Speaker 13: drive from High Seedars golf course.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, a tournament today, So it was It was interesting
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  Speaker 1: And I heard you agree or not? Or and yeah
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  Speaker 1: you heard Chuck right? I heard Chucks.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Really.
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  Speaker 13: The only thing that jumped down to me that I
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  Speaker 13: would disagree with is this is not the most unfunn
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 13: year since Bill Plumber. Do we remember twenty ten when
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 13: they literally couldn't score a run the entire slide. I
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  Speaker 13: remember twenty eleven. In twenty twelve like basically the whole first.
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  Speaker 2: Time we had the perfect game that year.
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  Speaker 13: I mean, holy smokes, that team scored like one point
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  Speaker 13: runs a game.
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  Speaker 1: God, actually, now that now you're gonna make me look
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  Speaker 1: this up there? Hey on, God, hang on, hang on
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  Speaker 1: standby Baseball Reference teams, Seattle Mariners, Franchise Encyclopedia.
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  Speaker 13: It was truly like historically bad offense for like three years.
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  Speaker 3: I think Nathan's point in saying that because I know
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 3: the quote I expect e expectations are hard to expectations.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, I don't know. I enjoyed the two
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: thousand and eight season myself. I knew that was the
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  Speaker 1: year because that was what a great year in sports.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, two thousand and eight, that was the sixty
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  Speaker 1: one and one oh one year.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 13: How about twenty nineteen, that was the rebuild year. That
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 13: was fun too, knew this. Sixty eight and ninety four, Yeah,
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 13: that was bad. That was really bad.
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  Speaker 1: Runs four seven fifty eight runs against eight ninety three?
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  Speaker 1: Is that bad? I think? So that's bad.
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  Speaker 13: That's yes, in comparison to expectations, this is one of
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 13: the if they go I mean, if they finished the
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 13: season exactly how they are now and they win like
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 13: seventy nine eighty games. Yeah, oh my god, I mean
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 13: it's top four or five. I actually was looking up.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 13: I was chatting with AI over the weekend. Was that
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 13: disappointing seasons in Seattle sports history?
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: Using the new Seahawks owners software.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 13: I don't know which ones they were kids, but I
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 13: probably was me too. But yeah, I mean, this will
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  Speaker 13: this will be right up there. But you know, fortunately
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  Speaker 13: we still have three more months of baseball to play.
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  Speaker 1: Hey that so what's it going to take to win
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  Speaker 1: the division? Eighty seven or eighty seventy eighty.
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  Speaker 2: Five five something like that.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: I'm just being safe. I mean, they're all eighty seven safe.
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  Speaker 3: I don't I don't think Texas is going to go away.
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  Speaker 3: He's so literally playing on the back of the al MVP.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're on pace for eighty wins, right, Yes,
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: they're on pace for eighty wins. So eighty and eighty
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  Speaker 1: two is what they're on pace for.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, but they've been on pace there many times before,
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 13: right July.
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  Speaker 1: And then they've they've hit hit that hot streak a
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 1: lot way.
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  Speaker 3: It is about as late as it's been of this
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 3: bad of baseball in the Depoto era that I would
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 3: agree with.
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  Speaker 13: See, there's a difference between the record and the bad basement.
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  Speaker 13: They've had under five hundred records in July and still
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 13: made the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: Yea.
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  Speaker 13: I took a look at that the other day, like
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 13: what the latest date was. There was a day there
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 13: was I think it was twenty twenty two. They had
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 13: five hundred records in August. So but I never felt
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 13: like they were playing this poor, frustrating a baseball as.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: They are, And I think that was I think that
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: was the guy's point today. It's it's and that's probably
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: what it prompted Chuck to say they want he wants
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: see a change the manager because there's it's like no
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: sense of urgency there a year, you know, like the
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: I think Randy just epitomized the micro just you know,
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: and it's it can't be. Hey, you're really good offensively,
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 1: so it's okay, it's not okay like like that those
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: kind of effort plays are lack thereof First of all,
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: he's already just not a good defensive player.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 2: Right tries.
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 1: Even if he tries, he's not a very good defensive player. So, like,
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: it's one thing if you're trying hard and you're not
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: very good, but at least you're giving everything. Right, if
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: you're not giving everything and you're already not good at something,
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: you're probably going to be really bad. And that's what
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: he is in the field right now. But yeah, you
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 1: got you Giants, Cincinnati Men, Texas, Dodgers, Minnesota, Detroit, Tampa
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: Bay Yankees.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 13: See other than the Dodgers and the Yankees in that
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 13: entire list, I don't think there's any team more talented
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 13: than the Seattle in that entire list.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 8: Talented maybe, but better playing playing better about every team,
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 8: but playing better.
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  Speaker 2: In early July does not play.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: That's how weird it is.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 13: That's how weird baseball is. But that's the seven and
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 13: one and then they go one and seven. I mean,
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 13: so you don't know what those teams are gonna be
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 13: playing like when you face that.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: That's the frustration, is that you look at this team
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: and say, you just should be better, Like you should
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: have a better record, you should be a better baseball team.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 1: I brought this up early as just mentioned that like
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: the All Star Game, and that All Star Game is
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: far from a great barometer, but it maybe sometimes it
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: can be. Case in point, even your starting pitching hasn't
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: been as great as you would explain, Like are you
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: telling me with all what fifteen how many starters they
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: have now seventeen eighteen or something like thatthing like that,
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  Speaker 1: none of those guys are an All Star? Yeah, none
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: of those guys aren't.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't think and I don't think you make
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 3: an argument anybody minus maybe Bryce Miller. But the only
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 3: reason he isn't is because he hasn't pitched enough.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 3: But you can't like say, oh, he is an egregious
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 3: miss in this one.
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  Speaker 2: You can't say that.
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  Speaker 1: There's none of those guys. You can say, I can't
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: believe they didn't tink, right, Like if you just if
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: you took the road starts away from Brian Wu, then
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: you go, god, how's he not an All Start? But
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: then you go, wait a second, we have to include
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: all the games. And if you include all the games,
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: those include games not played a team, mobile parks and sorry,
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: Joe Shean, they don't look good. He's a bad picture
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: on the road. Is what do you think of the manager.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: I don't want to take a show away from doing
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: it today, but it's.
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  Speaker 13: Just like, yeah, i'll do it today, but i'll do
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 13: with you. I mean, what do I think of the manager?
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 13: I think he never should have been hired in the
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 13: first places, Crawford. So it's hard for me to say
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 13: fire Dan Wilson when I've been sitting here on the
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 13: air for two years saying why was he given the
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 13: managerial job?
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: Like I've literally said, Softie and I.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 13: Were at you mentioned you were still call me Casino,
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 13: and I remember vividly we were at the QFC in
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 13: I think it is the last time we've done a
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 13: show at the QFC at QFC in u Village for
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 13: San Juan Seltzer and we got the word and the
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 13: first thought was my first words on my mouth was Eh,
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 13: it makes sense. He's gonna manage for thirty games. Yeah,
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 13: he's the mister Mariner guy. It's the most Mariner.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: Move, perfect indiom coach to be honest, Yes, yeah, And.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 13: I was like it's fine, no big deal. And then
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 13: an hour later we get the word that no, no, no, no,
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 13: this is permanent. This is permanent, and we were both
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 13: just like what in God's Earth are these guys doing?
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: And here we are two years.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 13: Later, And did they win last year because of Dan Wilson.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 13: We were sitting here last year while they were ten
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 13: games over.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: SAand they're not winning because of Dan Wilson.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 13: They're winning because they're really talented.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 3: So I might argue they didn't go to the World
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 3: Series because of Dan Wilson.
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 1: That's the problem. And you know, here's the unfortunate thing.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: Unless they win it this year, that's always going to
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: be there.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 2: Yep, just like Service bringing in Robbie Ray for yard on.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: Alvres's right, Just just like goal line super Bowl forty nine.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: There's things that I mean, Pete won a Super Bowl.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: Pete's never been forgiven for that, whether it was his, Darryl's, Russ's,
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: whoever's fault. Let the people like a football play. Isn't
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: one person that's right. But that's that's part of Pete's legacy.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: Always will be. Same with Russ, always will be. And unfortunately,
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: Dan Wilson, maybe you went back to back World Series.
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: We might forget about Toronto last year. I kind of
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: didn't doubt it. We don't forget about stuff here in
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: this town. We do not forget about things. What you
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: got coming up? Greg Bell's going to join us at
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: three thirty min as. We'll put him on another show today.
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 13: Why not, because you know it's things are going on
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 13: with the Seattle Seahawks and that ownership group. We'll talk
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 13: to Greg Hugh Millan at four o'clock from More at
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 13: four Millan millres MILLI you know Millan never heard of them?
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: Quarterback?
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 7: Oh?
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: Pretty good? Okay, pretty good? Yeah, he went to a
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: won a pretty big Bowl game.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: Krueger.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 13: At five o'clock, we'll ask Bill Kruger if Dan Wilson
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 13: should be fired, Well, maybe we'll play the Chuck Pell.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: Rant like that. I like that idea. I would be
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: tuning in at five o'clock for that action. I don't
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: want to know.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 13: Jackson's gonna tell us that five forty five. Jackson's gonna
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 13: tell us if you're correct, Jackson's gonna tell us why
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 13: the World Cup final is tomorrow?
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 2: Correct?
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: Anders not?
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: But that's what Jackson's gonna tell us, right.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: Furious Felts on the World Cup. I love it.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 13: I see you for the mild mannered and marginally objectionable
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 13: in forness.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: This is paddle day, saying so long everyone,