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🥂 RHOP Recap: Reasonably Honest & Baby’s Breath + 🏰 Traitors Ep 7: Victor’s Crusade & Tomica’s Gameplay · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Hello, everybody. Welcome back into Drama Darling.
• 0:22
  Speaker 2: We have a doubleheader for you today, The Real Housewives
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  Speaker 2: of Potomac recap and Traders recap, I believe, Traders episode seven.
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  Speaker 2: And one of my favorites so far that will be
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  Speaker 2: discussed later, Emily Duresis is joining me. Emily, welcome in
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: off the heels of our spectacular Halloween event last night.
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: How are you feeling today?
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  Speaker 3: Festive.
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  Speaker 2: I got to tell you, yesterday we had the first
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  Speaker 2: annual Drama Darling Booze and Bravo Halloween event on Zoom
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  Speaker 2: and it was a costume party. And listen, I got
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  Speaker 2: to tell you, you know, people showed up and they
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  Speaker 2: showed out. They dressed up and they showed their wares
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  Speaker 2: and awards were won and fun was had. And I
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  Speaker 2: got to give a shout out to everybody who showed
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  Speaker 2: up on Zoom. Even if you were like off camera
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  Speaker 2: and just a spectator enjoying the event, that's exactly what
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to make clear that when we have these
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  Speaker 2: Zoom events, you don't necessarily have to participate in the
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  Speaker 2: action of it in terms of like if we're calling
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  Speaker 2: for cooking, like if it's a cook-along, you don't have
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  Speaker 2: to cook. We still hang out and do fun things
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  Speaker 2: and talk. And this was a costume party and you
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  Speaker 2: didn't have to dress up. And I love that people
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  Speaker 2: are like, well, I'm not dressing up. I don't have
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  Speaker 2: the time. It's not the time and it's not the place.
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  Speaker 2: But I am going to show up and I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to have some fun. And so for that, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: When you don't show up, it grieves Amy's spirit.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Emily.
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  Speaker 3: As Tia's mother would say. It grieves my spirit.
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  Speaker 2: She's amazing. A little delusional, but that's okay. We'll get
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  Speaker 2: into that. But before we... I do want to just
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  Speaker 2: give some special announcements about the event and just give
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  Speaker 2: you guys a little peek into what it was as
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  Speaker 2: far as costumes because it was really, really fun. First
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  Speaker 2: of all, Emily, let's tell everybody who we were when
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  Speaker 2: we dressed up, okay? Let me go first because yours
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  Speaker 2: sort of is better than mine. Oh, I don't think so. Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 3: But you go first.
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  Speaker 2: All right. So I was Carol's Jeep. Pause for laughter. No.
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  Speaker 3: Pause, pause, pause. Pause.
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  Speaker 2: So that entailed basically wearing like a red hooded sweatshirt,
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  Speaker 2: a orange traffic cone on my head, a license plate
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  Speaker 2: that said Carol's Jeep. Brett made me a gorgeous Jeep
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  Speaker 2: Wrangler grill jacket. not for my teeth, but for my chest.
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  Speaker 2: I just taped it right on and he made me
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  Speaker 2: some headlights. And then we had some parking violation tickets
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  Speaker 2: that I printed out and I just shoved them all
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  Speaker 2: over my car, my person. And I had a no
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  Speaker 2: parking sign that I was holding up. And my background
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  Speaker 2: green screen thing was a street sweeper behind me. So
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  Speaker 2: it was, that was the whole thing. Thank you so much,
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  Speaker 2: you guys. I really had some fun. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't have to do a lot of makeup. It
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  Speaker 2: was great. You know, pretty light-handed with that. Emily, what
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  Speaker 2: were you?
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  Speaker 3: I was one of two. I couldn't make myself into
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  Speaker 3: two people, or I would have. Drainage tubes from Brittany
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  Speaker 3: Cartwright's surgery that became an added cast member this season, including...
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  Speaker 3: The digested shellfish she ate the night before her surgery
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  Speaker 3: were floating around inside of me.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. When I saw you as my drainage team,
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  Speaker 2: I could not believe it. I said, get over here.
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  Speaker 2: Get back on me. I'll miss you. I'll miss you.
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  Speaker 3: Also, inside of me was a white claw, and Brittany
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  Speaker 3: doesn't drink white claw, so we know Danny had snuck
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  Speaker 3: into one of her tubes and was having a white claw.
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  Speaker 2: He was hiding in her tubes because you got to
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  Speaker 2: hide from the cameras.
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  Speaker 3: You got to go where you can get it.
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  Speaker 2: I have to give you so many props, Emily. Your
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  Speaker 2: darling Emily here, my God, she had— this was an operation—
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  Speaker 2: of which like a science experiment, a science, I would
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  Speaker 2: say that you would win the science fair.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: You had a plastic baggie around your neck with liquid that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, was meant to look like blood. It was
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  Speaker 2: living liquid moving around on your chest, the entire zoom. Well,
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  Speaker 2: actually you did take it off.
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  Speaker 3: I did take it off. Yeah. But we'll post pictures
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  Speaker 3: too on the Instagram with everything too.
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  Speaker 2: That's the Drama Darling show over on Instagram. Please check
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  Speaker 2: that out.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, and let's talk about our winners. We did have
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  Speaker 2: a costume contest. And though so many people showed up
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  Speaker 2: with wonderful things, we did have three winners. Okay. So
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  Speaker 2: let's start with the most original costume that went to Matt.
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  Speaker 2: And that one was Schadenfreude.
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  Speaker 3: From Potomac.
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  Speaker 2: From Potomac. And he was like, okay, guys, this is
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  Speaker 2: very random. And I just want to see– I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to give you a hint. And then, like, he gave
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  Speaker 2: us the hint, but we couldn't get it. So he
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  Speaker 2: was dressed in, like– he had sort of a black hat,
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  Speaker 2: black gloves, almost like falcon gloves, the type of gloves
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  Speaker 2: that you'd wear if you were like, oh, I need.
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  Speaker 3: To hold this falcon. Yeah, he was dressed.
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  Speaker 2: Like a falconer.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's– You're right. Was that obvious to everybody?
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah. And then he did a quote from Tia
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  Speaker 2: and people still weren't getting it. And then we were like,
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  Speaker 2: he's like, I'm schadenfreude. He said it perfectly. I still
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  Speaker 2: have problems saying it. But we're like, oh, it was amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Like just how you would think that that would look.
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  Speaker 2: He embodied it. So creative. Most original. Matt, congratulations. Now
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  Speaker 2: we had best character go to And you know this one.
• 6:29
  Speaker 2: Martini Mike is the character given to us by Steven. Now,
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  Speaker 2: this is a character that was originally a background character
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  Speaker 2: in Roni when they went on a cast trip to
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  Speaker 2: Rhode Island. And he was the guy in the background
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  Speaker 2: with a sweater wrapped around his neck and he was
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  Speaker 2: drinking a martini and he had this shocked look on
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  Speaker 2: his face. If he were to say, oh, like that's
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  Speaker 2: what he looked like the whole time. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: And then this is like, you know, Martini Mike has
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  Speaker 2: played the long game and has now since in 2026
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  Speaker 2: has graced our screens again on the Real Housewives of
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  Speaker 2: Rhode Island.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the boat. He's on the boat.
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  Speaker 2: He's on the boat. And he does have a sweater
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  Speaker 2: wrapped around him and he's still on the martini and
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  Speaker 2: he's leaning into his, you know, his namesake, which is
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  Speaker 2: Martini Mike. And he is on Instagram at Which I'm
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  Speaker 2: realizing now, at Real Martini Mike. It's amazing. So good
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  Speaker 2: on him for making these incredible cameos and good on
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  Speaker 2: Stephen for coming through with this incredible outfit and the
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  Speaker 2: expression to boot.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Our third winner was Best Deep Cut Housewife. Now this
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  Speaker 2: is given to Tara. Tara showed up and her description
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  Speaker 2: of her housewife is Robin. But this is Robin in
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  Speaker 2: confusing stripes and patterns at a Wizards game. It was
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  Speaker 2: very specific. It was very on point. And again, really
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  Speaker 2: blew the wind back on all of us. So congratulations
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  Speaker 2: to all of them. And honorable mentions to all. Mike Bish,
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  Speaker 2: graphic designer. Heath showed up as fresh of breath air
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  Speaker 2: with like i can't even explain it we will post
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  Speaker 2: pictures but what you have to know is that it
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  Speaker 2: was like a headpiece it was tool and he had
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  Speaker 2: like a big a beyonce fan on him at all
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  Speaker 2: times so when you when you look up to his
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  Speaker 2: corner and where he was in his window of the
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  Speaker 2: zoom he would just it would be blowing just blowing
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  Speaker 2: in the air and he'd just be like yeah you
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  Speaker 2: guys saw this and that and just it was hilarious
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  Speaker 2: the visual of it the movement it was amazing It was.
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  Speaker 3: Actually 10 Fange fans of Atlanta. Angie's fans.
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  Speaker 2: Fange. By the way, speaking of, Tara, who was one
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  Speaker 2: of our winners, was at Bravo Fan Fest. She took
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  Speaker 2: a picture with Angela. And guess what I spotted in
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  Speaker 2: that picture? I think you'll guess.
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  Speaker 3: A fan?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, a fan.
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  Speaker 3: And that fan was Tara. She's a big fan of Atlanta. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: As a matter of fact, yeah, you're right.
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  Speaker 2: There were two fans in that picture.
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  Speaker 3: That's why Angie was there. She's like, oh, good, a
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  Speaker 3: fan festival. There will be lots of other fan sellers here.
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  Speaker 3: I'll learn something.
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  Speaker 2: Thank God there probably weren't. So she didn't have any competition.
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  Speaker 2: Also that joined us on our wonderful Zoom was Bish,
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  Speaker 2: your Bish therapist. And She actually was involved in the
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: big production that we did. Now, this was the maiden
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  Speaker 2: voyage of. an original drama darling piece that was cast.
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  Speaker 2: And basically, it was called Purgatory Paws, Bluestone Manor Horror Story.
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  Speaker 2: And yes, I did write this. But, you know, words
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  Speaker 2: don't come to life unless I have excellent performers. And
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  Speaker 2: those performers were Mike, Bish graphic designer, myself. Oh, Mike
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  Speaker 2: was Andy Cohen. I was Dorinda Medley. Emily was Jill Zarin.
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  Speaker 2: Angela Quintana played Margaret Josephs with a gorgeous, incredible wig.
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  Speaker 2: And Melissa Reich, your Bish therapist, played Alexis Bellino. I'm
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  Speaker 2: just pausing for dramatics. And it was just a blast.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it was about, we were not celebrating all of
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  Speaker 3: those gals, just for the record. We were not celebrating
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  Speaker 3: Jill or Alexis. It was a nod to the council.
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  Speaker 2: I was celebrating Dorinda and Andy.
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  Speaker 3: Dorinda and Andy, of course.
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  Speaker 2: Dorinda and Andy were celebrated, yeah. But yes, so it
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  Speaker 2: all took place at Bluestone Manor, of course, and it
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  Speaker 2: was a horror story. There were ghosts. You know, it
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  Speaker 2: got crazy, guys. So we had a real good time.
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  Speaker 2: We really did.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. The best.
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  Speaker 2: Simply the best.
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  Speaker 1: Ray?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Ray. Okay, baby, have fun.
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  Speaker 2: See you in 10 days. All right, guys, let's get
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  Speaker 2: into Potomac.
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  Speaker 3: Ray?
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: Ray? Ray? That's Ray leaving to this music. He's like, shit,
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: she's coming for me. Out he goes. I mean, to
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  Speaker 2: have that at the beginning, too, was really tough. You know, like,
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: you know, Ray's hiding in the house because you just
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: hear like a disembodied voice, like echoing throughout. And she's right.
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: I'm not here.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, OK, baby. I was like, well, what baby? Oh.
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  Speaker 2: He's been saying that for years, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know what that means. Someone's dissociated and disembodied.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't even help her with her suitcase, which is
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  Speaker 3: crazy for that couple because he's always like, she's having
• 12:22
  Speaker 3: him do the heavy lifting, literally. Literally. And she was
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  Speaker 3: on her own. And she's going away for days.
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  Speaker 2: Days.
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  Speaker 3: And he couldn't even be bothered.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. She was like, I'm going to go
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  Speaker 2: to the therapist. And I'm like, okay, that's fine. And
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: she's like, and then to Suri? Okay. And then to Miami.
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: She said Sari. She kept calling it Sari, Kim. Sari.
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: It's her veneers. She can't get her. Going to Sari?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Going to Sari? I'm going to survive?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I trust how she's saying it. I just
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  Speaker 3: had not heard it that way. And I'm like, have
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  Speaker 3: I been saying it wrong this whole time?
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  Speaker 2: No, you haven't.
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  Speaker 3: But it's been Sari, right? Yes. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, it is spelled S-U-R-R-Y. What are you going
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  Speaker 2: to Get out of that. Unless it's like, I guess
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: that's how Luann says sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Ray, I'm going to Luann.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry. Okay, baby. Bye.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to Europe. I'm going to Denmark.
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  Speaker 3: Bye, baby.
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: I'm going to start drinking again.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm here.
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  Speaker 2: What's that? Oh, come on now. You know it's coming.
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  Speaker 2: We saw it. We saw it coming up ahead. All right.
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  Speaker 2: So that's interesting. And you know, Karen, she just, she
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  Speaker 2: wants to keep some things to herself. Selves.
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  Speaker 3: I love it.
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  Speaker 2: And so she should.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. No therapist on camera. I'm fine with that. Thank God.
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  Speaker 2: We know it's a real therapist.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't love those scenes anyway because I'm so...
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  Speaker 3: skeptical of that that whole thing on camera when somebody
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  Speaker 3: goes to their therapist the only reason I'm kind of
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  Speaker 3: like okay with it is because maybe it'll help a
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  Speaker 3: viewer see the process and be okay about going to
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  Speaker 3: therapy on their own yeah but we we don't need
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  Speaker 3: like I don't need Tamara at therapy scenes oh disgusting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you know I I do appreciate that And then
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  Speaker 2: I was like, but you can keep the therapist private,
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  Speaker 2: but I want to see what you're doing to the
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: guest house. Don't keep that private.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Are we going to have scenes there? Are they
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: filming there? I don't know. I don't know. I think
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  Speaker 3: we would know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I feel like we would have gotten. So she
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  Speaker 2: went to it unless she's, you know, she went to
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  Speaker 2: the event. So she went to the therapist. She went
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  Speaker 2: to the event and then what? Headed down to Surrey
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  Speaker 2: at that point. The timeline's a little off, you know? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, well, whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever.
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  Speaker 2: OK, so why don't we talk about Robin and Giselle
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  Speaker 2: and Ashley? OK, I mentioned this last week about Ashley
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: having like kind of a permanent duck face, like kind
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: of like the selfie duck face that you give when
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: you're taking pictures. Oh, I think she's had a lip flip.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. Okay.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: And some filler in the bottom lip. I'm pretty positive.
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  Speaker 2: She looks totally different, you guys. I can't not see it.
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  Speaker 2: You guys, right? Am I crazy?
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: No, I think you're right. I think you're right.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think it's just overlining the lip. I think
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: she had something done. But in her confessional, it looks better.
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  Speaker 2: So I feel like maybe it settled down a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that could also be makeup too. I mean, it
• 15:49
  Speaker 3: could be both. You know what I mean? Like it
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: could be like trying to figure out the new landscape.
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  Speaker 2: Right, right, right, right. So here we have Robin that's
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: basically come on to this show this season and it's like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be going up against Giselle. That's what
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be doing, which is a wild choice.
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  Speaker 3: I think that she's not wanting to do that, but. Again,
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  Speaker 3: like she to Karen's point, like Robin isn't as desperate
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  Speaker 3: for Giselle or anybody else on this show. And Robin
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: is kind of like she's been desensitized to like how
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: you operate on the show and is legit like you
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: don't do that shit in real life. You idiot. Like,
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  Speaker 3: why are you treating people like this? Because I think
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: she's kind of like the fresh breath there coming in.
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  Speaker 3: You don't do that.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder what Giselle and Robin's conversations are after this,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: because like twice in this episode, she's basically kind of
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: throwing Giselle under the bus, which is, I mean, it's
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: fine by me. It's just, it completely is not at
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  Speaker 2: all like how Robin used to be. Robin, old Robin
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  Speaker 2: never would have said anything. She would have either co-signed
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: or stayed silent and, you know, marched to the beat
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  Speaker 2: of the same drum. But now she's basically calling her
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  Speaker 2: out and, It's just an interesting thing to see. And
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Karen in her confession was like, who's Giselle's besties? Ashley
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  Speaker 2: took Robin's spot because Robin's back. And now what's going
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: to happen? And like, honestly, I'm wondering that too. Until
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: the end of the episode when Ashley completely stabbed Giselle
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  Speaker 2: in the back.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like, it's like she, she, Ashley is
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  Speaker 3: so messy. And I think like when Robin left, Giselle
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  Speaker 3: needed an ally on the show and her and Ashley
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  Speaker 3: got genuinely close in this world. But in the real world,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what that is. Yeah. But they have
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  Speaker 3: had each other's back so hard on the show for
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: the last. Two seasons? Three seasons?
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, they've had an allyship, and it's going
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: to be interesting seeing Robin come in here, and now
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: they're sort of vying for position with Giselle, but at
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: the same time, they're both not afraid to throw Giselle
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: under the bus. They're kind of competing for Giselle's loyalty,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: and then also competing for which one can be disloyal
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  Speaker 2: to Giselle the most.
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  Speaker 3: At the end, when.
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  Speaker 2: Ashley was like, oh, my gosh, Robin, you are so messy.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: And I'm just like, you've got to be kidding me, Ashley.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: I don't know who Ashley thinks she's fooling. Like no
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: one at the table and no one in the audience.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, Josh, Josh, Alexi, Alexi's French friends. Wendy
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: at that dinner was like, Ashley, I heard you threw
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Giselle under the bus. And then Ashley's like, well, I'm
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: surprised that Robin would even bring it up to the group,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: which is a fair point. Like here, Robin comes in
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: originally and says, oh, Giselle brought up how, you know,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: this dating site and how that can happen. And you'll
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: find out in six months on the podcast. And I
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: edited it out. That was that was messy.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: It wasn't though, because that was at the lunch with
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: her and Ashley. It was Giselle, Ashley and Robin. And
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Robin is telling both of them, you guys are not
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: good friends to Tia for how you all are handling this.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: And Giselle says, what do you mean? And she's like,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: you can talk about it on the show. I edited
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: it out, but you brought it up on the show.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: And that's just the three of them. And she almost
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: had to say it because Giselle was like, I've never
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: said anything. And Robin's like, hold on. You absolutely did say,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: and if it weren't for me, it would still be
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: out there, but it was just the three of them.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But now the whole world's going to see it.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: And now they would come out at the reunion, no
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: matter what. And the fact that like, Giselle really had
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: a hard time owning that because then when she was
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: called out, she was like, I didn't say your names,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: but she really, she said everything. But, and that's what
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Giselle has got to own up to is that like,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: she's so messy.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: She was almost out. She was almost safe. And then
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Robin came in and said the truth of what happened.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: And she said, and then you were like in six months,
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: everybody's going to know. And then at that point, Giselle's
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: just laughing with Karen, like, Oh shit.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And we are busted. But Robin didn't have to
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: do that. Like she, for real, threw her under the bus.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: She did not have to say that information. She could
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: have just let Giselle apologize for the little amount that
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Tia knew about and not even like, and just kind
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: of had her back.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Because she walked in late. She walked in late and
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: acting like, they're acting like the whole story's been told.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: And Robin was just, casually mentioning. And then, you know,
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: and she said six months later. And so then like
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I edited it and they're all like, you said six
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: months later, you did. You were just saying it was
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: this vague thing. I don't know unless Robin got a
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: text ahead of time, which is possible to be like,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: tell her exactly. You better say exactly what Giselle said.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: She just still did not need to say exactly what
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: she said, but she did say it earlier in the scene.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: and then again in front of Tia. So if there
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: was ever a chance to have any tiny shred of
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Giselle's back, she could have had it, and she chose
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: not to.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: I also think it's like Robin doesn't have the shorthand
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: for filming that Ashley and Giselle have together, where they
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: know what to say and not to say with one look.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: And Robin's like, Do you have something in your eye? Anyway,
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: six months. We'll hear it on the show. They're both like,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: don't say it. You know what I mean?
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: I think you're giving Robin a lot of ignorant credit.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: She knows exactly how housewives work. She knows exactly how
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: this is run. And to me, I see it as
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: this is a new Robin. She has a spine. She's
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: speaking for herself and only herself. She is not Giselle's
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: sidekick any longer. she may be doing her podcast, but
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: she is going to walk on her own and she's
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: going to abide by her own ethics and morals and
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: she's going to speak her truth. I don't think that
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: she's just accidentally tripping into the scene and being like,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: but you said this, like some sort of person who's unfamiliar.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: I don't think that, but I do think Giselle and
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Ashley have an understanding and they're quick and in terms
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: of their muscles are ready for this, whereas Robin's kind
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: of like, I don't have the whatever you guys are
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: doing over.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: This is the truth.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: This is what happened. I do think it's fucked up. Like,
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: I think Robin's not playing the game the way they
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: play the game. And she also doesn't have anything to lose.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: But I also don't think that Robin realized it was
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: going to blow up in her face the way it
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: did for Giselle. Because I think she was just like,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: be a better person, period. And leaving it like that
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: and citing the reasons why and citing the reasons why.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: was like too many details.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. That's what I'm saying. I mean, we have
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: different views of Robin at this point. I think that
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: she is not necessarily premeditated, but she has a goal,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: and that is to stand apart from Giselle. And she
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: is going to tear the walls down and not hold
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: back about anything multiple times. And so in a way...
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: When Ashley said, well, I'm surprised that you would bring
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: that up to the group, you know, Robin, you're the
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: one who actually brought this up. I am too. I mean,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I was honestly shocked because this is not the Robin
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: that we're used to. She would have never done that
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: in the past.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And with Ashley, though, I have a hard time
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: with Ashley. To me, she's kind of Whitney. She's like
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: the Whitney of Potomac. Oh, 100%. Where I'm just like,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: what's real here? Like you, I don't know where we're
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: going with this.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: She just is always playing. She's always playing, you know,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: and it's never really coming from a place of organic
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: responses because she's always going to throw out the messy thing.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: She's always going to try and tee up somebody to
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: get it going. She's always going to pull someone aside.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, what business did she have going to Tia
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: and then throwing Giselle under the bus and telling her?
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: It's just, there was no, it's crazy to me. Cause
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: it's like, no one is off limits when it comes
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: to Ashley.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: Even though was, it was nice to have Giselle because
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: it actually, in that time, because Giselle had Ashley's back
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: so hard, it gave, it made me like, Oh, think like, okay,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: this is genuine. But now that we're back to this,
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I don't, I don't think I know
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Ashley very well after all this time. Still. I just,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: To your point, like she's just playing games.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: She will always play games if she doesn't have a
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: crisis going on in her life that she's like working
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: from and dealing with. So she can if she has
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: a crisis going on in her life, she can kind
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: of sit in that and then just respond because that's
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: being shown. But on seasons when she doesn't and there
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: are a lot of seasons that she doesn't, especially over
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: the last like five years, you know, ever since Michael's gone.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: She is just somebody who shows up, you know, puts
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: the ball in play and is just like, let's go. She's,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: she's an excellent housewife when it comes to that. You
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: will never need more. She'll always do what needs to
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: be done to kind of stir things up.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I guess other people I think are better at it. Like,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: I think Giselle can do that too, but I don't,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: it's done with such finesse that I don't, it doesn't
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: bother me. Whereas with Ashley, I'm like, whatever.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Giselle and Ashley actually do have a
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: lot in common, come to think of it. Yeah. Because
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: when their lives are like cool, you know, they have
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: nothing to really give. So they give of others and
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: their mess. And that's tough.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But I think where it's also bothering me, too,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: with Ashley right now is like that speaking on that panel,
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: the way she did about Tia not on the show.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: That's when I'm like, that wasn't even on the show, Ashley. Like,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: why did you have to do that? You know what
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: I mean? Like, that's not cool.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a perfect example, right? Whitney did that
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: whole thing against Meredith and Lisa. Yes, exactly. It's like
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: a parallel.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Yes. You know what, Whitney and Ashley, you should have
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: a podcast. Yeah, they should. Actually, I would listen to
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: that because they will tell us everything.
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  Speaker 2: Let's talk about Tia and her mom coming to visit
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• 36:42
  Speaker 3: dad and her mom. So I guess....
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't change. You know, her mom clearly
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: was found out her husband had a whole other life.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: And instead of, you know, handling it with Tia being like,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: you know, I've seen this before. I went through it.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: And this is like, do you want to do this?
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, I hope they have that conversation. Yeah.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I keep going back to what if Tia and
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Rob are the couple that can continue to raise their
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: kids in a co-parenting way under the same roof. And
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: they might be able to do it. They might be
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: the couple to do it. But then seeing Tia's mom
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: have Rob's back equally, it feels like from what we saw,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: I was like, No, I don't want that anymore, selfishly.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: I'm like, get away from them, Tia. Not counting the
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: kids need Rob and all that. Just like, break the cycle, Tia.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Do it. Get out. Well, I mean, I think she should.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's really, I think it's weird.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: I guess we don't know about their marriage, but he
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: had stepped out before and now it's happening again.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Before they had kids.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Right. And now it's happening again. So it's like, He,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: when the going gets tough, it seems like he gets
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: on a dating site. So.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I would love to know the research if it's
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: got to exist. Like, what is the age where it's like,
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: if you get divorced, your kids are, they grow up
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: in it and they're fine. And then what's the age
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: where like you get divorced and it's like, it's not good.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like that's where I keep,
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: because I feel like sometimes when the kids are about
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: that age, it's hard. My, My parents divorced when I
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: was a senior in high school, literally moving out. And
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: so I was kind of that was OK for me
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: because it was like literally that time.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: Other folks in my family was not OK. And they
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: were younger. They were like high school, too. They had it.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: My brother had a totally different experience.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: So it's like I don't know what that is. And
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: then I have other family that have had divorces when
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: their kids are really little and everything's great because that's
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: all they know.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Right. I know. It's almost like either got to catch
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: it at the very, very, very beginning before kids are aware. Yeah.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Or at the very end when they're like turning 18.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: And it also depends on the couple.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: But anything in between, it's going to be devastating. It's
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: going to, you know, life altering, life shifting. And certainly,
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: you know, kids are resilient in the moment and can
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: handle things. It's just that later on in life, everything
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: catches up with you. And then you kind of have
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: to deal with that later.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: So, um, and even when, you know, you're older, say
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: like you, and then you're like, okay, but where do
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: I go back for a holiday? This is weird. Now
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: my family's like, yeah, together. Did you have that experience?
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: That has been weird.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I had guilt because of my brother. That
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: was really where it was. Like, I felt really bad about, like, oh,
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: I moved out. Like, everything changed.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Right at once.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: So that's when I, like, so I actually ended up
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: transferring back and going to school much closer to home,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: which was good for me to do. But I think, like,
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: I guess what I'm saying is I was less affected
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: than a lot of kids are that go through divorce.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: But it still affected me.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Sure, of course, yeah.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: But I guess like when I'm looking at Tia and
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Rob's kids, I'm like, they're right at that age where
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: they might not, they might think, oh, our kids are
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: old enough now. They get it. And then they, and
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: because Tia and Rob get along enough, I'm just like,
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: could they figure this out just for like three years?
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: You know, that's where I'm at. Like, I'm like, it
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: might affect these kids and they, in a way they
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: don't even realize could yet.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, I mean, yeah, I completely agree. And just,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: You know, you could always just pull a Ralph and,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: you know, go into the basement.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, man. Ralph's a different story. It's a couple. It
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: is the couple.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: It is the couple. But you know what? In all fairness, though,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: we do not know Rob. Like we saw all of Ralph. True.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: That is very true.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: All of his, you know, imperfections were front and center.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: And Rob, he's not leaning over the kitchen island on
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: his phone. like on a dating app while he's on camera. No,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I'm kidding.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: But no, I, so we don't really know. And that's
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: what's tough about it.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: Like I wanted Joe and Teresa to split up. I
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: didn't give a shit about anything. I was like, get
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: him away from her.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: But we did know him a lot better than we know. Yeah.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: For all we know, it just seems like the kids
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: really like Rob. Rob seems to be like really in
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: the mix of the day to day. So I just thought,
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: That to me is presenting as some, like a dad
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: that's really available in there for the kids.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Maybe not a great husband.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: I don't see everything you're seeing, but I mean. Well,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: all we.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Know about Rob is he's great at carpooling. We do
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: know that. That has been shown to us.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Hey, that's not nothing. You know what I mean?
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: That is not nothing, baby. But when you're waiting, you know,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: when you're a pickup, you're a drop off. And you're
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: bored and, you know, scrolling TikTok isn't doing it for you,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: you got to get on those dating apps. You know
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying?
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: I do. And so does Rob. All right.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: So, oh, my God. Stacey was proposed to by Timo.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Timo. Timo. I can't.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Teemo.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Teemo. Not Teemo.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: And the dog. Why not the daughter? Why not Arabella?
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Why didn't he get Arabella to be there? Why was
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: it the dog that was flown in? You know, I was.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Kind of okay with it. But now that you're saying it,
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: I wasn't.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Until I remembered they have a child.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: But I don't think they should drag her into this mess.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: No, you're right. I agree. I agree. The dog is
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: in the window of time, and the dog is of
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: the age where it won't remember and it doesn't know.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: So it's fine.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Yes. Because, like, I do think they need to have
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: a conversation with her. I do think she's been kind
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: of pulled around without an explanation and now lights up cameras,
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: and we're getting married again.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. It's like, wait, what? That was so awkward.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: The whole thing was, like, one of the most awkward
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: proposals or re-proposals ever. I think we've ever seen. She
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: was looking at the woman who brought over the dog like,
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: what are you doing here, lady?
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: It was like, it felt like everything was in slow motion.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: And then he sat right back down and was like,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: all right, maybe wedding happened, maybe not, we'll see. And
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: she was like, ha, ha, ha.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, in the beginning I was laughing because it starts
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: off like every scene so far this season with them
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: where they're like wow we are alone together isn't this
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: romantic wow much needed for us to be together hey
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: let's are we're practically having sex on this table wow
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: sexy time oh.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: No stacy It's like she could literally sell me an
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: ass to neck turtleneck. A full turtleneck all the way around.
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: Leg turtleneck. I'm buying it. She cannot sell me on
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: a romantic relationship. She has yet to sell me on
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: one romantic relationship.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: She can't do it. She cannot.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: No, I'm not buying this.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: I am sitting across. Is it because she's handling the
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: situation like she would handle an ass to neck turtleneck?
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: No, because then I'd buy it.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I am sitting across from a very romantic situation. His
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: name is Timo and we are having a very sexy dinner.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: In the light of day.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm interested. How many are left?
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: They are going fast. Let me tell you. We have
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: them in several different colors. Champagne, ivory, peach, and off-white.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow. Such a range.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: They all have glasses. And they all have some sort
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: of Norwegian accent. I can't remember where he's from. I
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: always forget.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Stacy, we're sold out. We're sold out. You need to
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: move on to the next item.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Okay. We are selling a gorgeous dog. This dog comes
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: complete with a bow, will be delivered to you in
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: the most unexpected places at the most unexpected times.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Sold. Sold out. See? It's great. Done. Done.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: He did get on his knees. That was nice.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's just something. I mean, I know this is
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: nothing new with Stacey. I don't know why she has
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: these romantic scenes. They never work.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: We shouldn't see them. We shouldn't have seen that proposal.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: We shouldn't have seen it. We shouldn't have seen it. No.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Wish we could take it back. All of it.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: There's no returns. Sorry. No returns. The return window is...
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: close put on.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Ebay okay to like be talking about their deal deal
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: breakers and then she's giving him props she's like i
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: have to say you are really pulling your weight with
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: being a decent human being and really meeting me where
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: it matters what is this dog what is happening Are
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: you kidding me right? You guys, even just recounting it
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: right now, I'm feeling so uncomfortable and awkward.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: It feels like I can't remember the guy's name, the
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: guy that was drinking ectoplasm out of the wine glass
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: and cutting a pizza on the countertop without a cutting board.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: It's it's all that all over again. Yes. Timo's a
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: little bit more involved, but not much.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: He's also like he seems to have a way out.
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: He's looking at the exit door, the emergency exit, just
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: in case.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Is that why he's not making eye contact with Stacy?
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: He's looking for the closest exit.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he really isn't. He's like, this is delicious bass.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: Okay. Oh, yeah. He was eating the whole time. Yeah.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: And he was doing that in the kitchen in the
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: last scene.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Guys, it's so weird.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: It's weird. And then also he's like, we have deal
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: breakers be more responsible fiscally. Ha ha ha. You mean
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: with money? Funny times. And then it's like she doesn't
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: want to tell us that, like, what is this that
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: you're hiding, Stacey? Are we having, what are you doing?
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: You're spending all your money on QVC? Like, what's up?
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's, he's robbing to her. He's just telling, hey,
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: I'm just being truthful on camera. I don't know what
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: you're winking at me for.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you're doing.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm gonna, are they going to, are we
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: getting a wedding this season? Or is it going to
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: be next season? Hmm. What if she's paying him for
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: the wedding?
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Well, when he's like, we have these
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: deal breakers, he's like, you know what they are. And
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, is it not paying men to
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: be her partners on camera?
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: Well, contracts. I wonder if they have a contract. I mean,
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: I was... Yeah. I mean, I don't want to go
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: down that rabbit hole again. But, like, maybe... Deal breaker
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: was the wrong thing to say on Timo's behalf. Because
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: now I am like, well, okay. There's written understandings.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Arabella has a contract. The dog has a contract. Arlo.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Is that the dog? Yeah. That dog is cute.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really cute. That dog showed up, you know?
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: That dog was... Yeah, it was breathing.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, good point.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, Timo was living. And by living, I mean
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: just showing up. You know what I mean? Not delivering,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: just living. Yeah, he was also breathing.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: A lot of people were breathing in that scene. And animals.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: And speaking of breathing, we're at the GNA event where
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: there was breathing and yoga and Robin... Sorry, three times
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: she called out Giselle in this episode. Once in the beginning,
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: once at the GNA event, like, what is this? Is
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: this even an event? What is this? Are we at
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: an event?
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: And I appreciated that.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I did too. That was so funny. I was like, damn,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: we're coming for her GNA events that don't make sense.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I think what was happening, I was like,
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: then call it. For Giselle's here to raise money for
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: the Brain Society, or I forget the name of the charity.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Brain Tumor, yeah.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: But when you put GNA on it and you're talking
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: about sweat crotch spandex on the side with Ashley, I'm
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: still like, what is GNA?
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: I thought we learned from last season and the season before. Yeah,
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: I know. I thought we learned that they can't do
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: that and that it confuses everybody and it doesn't make sense.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: And the people who showed up at the events thought
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: it was confusing. It was brought up, I think, at
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: the reunion. It was brought up on social media how
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: it does not come together. And yet she did it again.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: And it's not to say I don't have respect for
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: the charity, but take GNA out of it? Oh, I
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: wonder if it has to be under the umbrella of
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: that business for tax reasons. That that's why they have
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: to call it that.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, because it's like a non-for-profit.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: Maybe.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: But that's weird, though, because that's, whatever.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: Maybe there's a reason.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: G & A' s not not-for-profit.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: It's for-profit.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: So it wouldn't make sense that they would be under
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: the same umbrella unless they're trying to.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: Maybe they need a company that has a loss.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly where I was going. That's exactly what
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: it is. You know what pisses me off? If this
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: is the truth and Giselle isn't being, you know, transparent
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: about this, that's what's going to piss me off because
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: she'll be the first person to go off, go after
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: anybody who has an issue with their restaurant or their
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: business or whatever. But if this has to do with
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: repositioning the finances of a failed leisure wear company and
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: pivoting it into and funneling the money into a charity,
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: which is probably a genius thing because she probably has
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: a great tax person and they figured out some loopholes.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: If this is the case, allegedly, and this is just
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: my opinion and we're just shooting the shit, if that's
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: what she's doing and she's not going to tell us
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: at some point, that's bullshit.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't think she's pivoting it to a charity
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: because then she'd have to have a board if she
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: was going to pivot into a non-for-profit but it could
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: just be like this is my business that's taking a
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: loss this year and I've had to support it with
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: other means and so that's a write-off I don't know
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: but yeah it would be.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: Hypocrisy and bullshit but I think that like she is
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: smart to not mention it but somebody should Someone should
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: get messy about it.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: Ashley will get to the bottom. She better.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: Oh, there she is. She did it. Now, who's coming?
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Ashley's going to throw her own company under the bus.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Here she comes.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, Ashley.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, it's also like we just haven't seen a
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: housewife have a wife's. Have a product that doesn't quite
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: work and then they keep mentioning it. It's usually like
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: that didn't work and we never talk about it again.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: You're right. And now we're having like launch after launch.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Events after events.
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, God, that's funny.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: So we're going to ask.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: We're just asking.
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: We're asking. It was in the public. We brought it
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: up on the podcast.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: That's what we do. You know what? Someone has got
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: to ask her. Wendy and Giselle going to lunch. Wendy
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: donated to Giselle's Brain Tumor Foundation. And that was a
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: smart move because it kind of got Giselle off your
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: ass for a little while by calling you a scammer.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: But with what money?
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what I'm wondering. And if Giselle was, I
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: don't know, I'm surprised she actually backed down. I'm surprised
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: she wasn't like calling her out.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: It's never too late. I think that Giselle's going to
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: do it at the reunion. Because Wendy will probably bring up,
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, I donated to your charity event. And she's
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: going to be like, with what money? I will gladly
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: give it back to you if you can pay your bills.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: I bet you that that's going to happen.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's weird that at this point, Giselle is
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: still saying scammer. By the way, reminder, last week on
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: Watch What Happens, she really regretted saying it that time.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: And I got the impression that was just a one-time blip.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: Then we get to the next episode and she cannot
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: stop saying it. But if I'm Giselle and I really
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: believe that Wendy's a scammer, I'm going to feel really
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: uncomfortable and say that, that I'm benefiting from this scam
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: because this charity that I care about is getting... But
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: so I don't know what Giselle really believes on that.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: And also it's like, I know that Wendy, allegedly, it's
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: an insurance company. But the way Giselle is putting it
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: out there, it sounds like it's a habitual thing that
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: Wendy is guilty of. And I don't like that. No.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: Because that's not what's happening that we know of.
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to accept the money. And I'm wondering
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: how much she donated. Like, if she donated $ 200, that's fine.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: But I don't know if Giselle ever even saw the money.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like, it was probably made
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: out to that foundation in Giselle's dad's name. And then
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: Giselle gets a letter about it or saw it. But
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: it's probably not made out to Giselle. Right. But Wendy
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: had to keep telling Giselle she did it, right? Giselle
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: was like, I was really glad that Wendy really spelled
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: it out that she donated.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: Wendy doing that, you're trying to buy her loyalty so
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: she doesn't come after you anymore. I mean, like, it
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: seems so obvious to me. She called you a scammer.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Why are you going to give to her foundation?
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was off, the whole thing.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: And now Giselle's like, I'm going to Congress. I need
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: your help. It's like, you don't need her help. All
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: you have to do is Google what you need to
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: do to go to Congress. I'm sure there's a million
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: videos online. That can tell you what Wendy would tell you.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that you need to like get her expertise.
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: And then in the next thing, she's like, wow, Wendy
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: really gave me some great advice. I was like, Giselle,
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: you are not a good actor. Okay. I don't know
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: what is happening, but that's not flying with me.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: Well, I hope it all in the end works out
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: and Giselle gets a package.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: I hope so. I think she will. I think she will.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: So lastly, at the Alexi party, we had Cynthia Bailey
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: show up.
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: Yes. Oh, and Monique. Oh, yeah. Monique.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: That was fun to see Monique.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I really thought she would be back this season.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: I am surprised that she's not.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: I'm shocked.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: Shocked.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, I just love that Cynthia basically can show
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: up to any city at any time. Yes. And it
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: always makes sense.
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: I know. Oh, Cynthia's here.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: It's like, oh, yeah, of course. You know, you don't
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: bat an eye. You're like, I've been waiting for you.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: And I love that Courtney was like to her like bestie.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: She's like, I'm going to need you to move to
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: put Cynthia here. And honestly, I was kind of like, yeah,
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: that was the smart move because they were all over there.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: That table was so big, you know.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: How about Ashley just breaking the fourth wall in her
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: interview to be like, when you all had Cynthia walk
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: in right then. Yeah.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: When you all. Yeah. It's like, okay, now we're bringing
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: the producers into it, Ashley.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: Well, they kept it in. They kept in the line
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: of her saying that. So I was like, all right. They,
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: it did. I was like, they, I, they must, maybe
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: Cynthia was about to walk in and Stacy, they were like,
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: wait a second. Stacy's in there yelling about something. Hold on.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, it's about wedding planning? Oh, hold on, Cynthia.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, that was funny. Courtney, well, Stacy, I don't think
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: that she meant to insult Courtney when she was like,
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: I have a reputable planner who's credible, who's background checked.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: You know, she was listing these things off. I think
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: that she was just trying to say like, oh, yeah,
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: I've done the research and like I just got you know,
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: a person that I wanted to get. It's just that
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: her tone of voice sounds so condescending because I was like, oh, Stacy.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: She wasn't yelling. She was, yeah, exactly what you're saying.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: It's just like pausing weirdly and saying things like, better
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: wedding planner. It's like, what?
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Because that's what you're reading between the lines. I took
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: it that way. I totally took it that way.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: It's totally, you can see everything. It's totally Elizabeth Holmes
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: to Nathan Fielder.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: Totally.
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: You could be a wedding planner that would be hired.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Nodding head, yes. Nodding head, yes.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: Right, right. You could be that person that I called
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: and I can call you. Right. So that is not
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: what I said.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: But you said that I hold on. Are you saying
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: are you for real right now?
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: Are you for real?
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: Are you are you being for real right now? I'm
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: a wedding planner. No, but I'm a wedding. You called
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: me and then you started asking me about being a
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: wedding planner. Did you not?
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: I said that we were wedding planners and that this
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: could be a wedding.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: That you're a wedding planner too? See, I did not
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: catch that. Are you for real right now? Yeah.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: I'm losing my mind. Are you guys seeing this? Alexi,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: are you seeing this, French people?
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: Are you seeing this? Who's on first?
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: Do you see what she's doing? Who's on first? Courtney
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: and wedding planner. I did love that she planned Cynthia's wedding.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: That was great that we saw her before. I always
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: love that.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: I also, I agree. And I didn't understand the whole
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: room set up and where everyone was on a Wednesday night.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Where is everybody? You mean at Cynthia's wedding?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: No, at this party.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: Oh.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: For the birthday party.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: You know, to be honest with you, after everyone finally arrived,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: every seat was pretty much accounted for. I don't know
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: how they were planning on fitting the husbands in there.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: They had two other tables in there full of baby's
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: breath and candles.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, so that's where all the other people were supposed
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: to go.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: I guess.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: Ray?
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: Ray? He's gone.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: He's in D.C. now. He just, yeah, he checked into
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: the Radisson Inn.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It was a confusing set up. Yeah, the baby's
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: breath was... I mean, when Stacey said that, I was like.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: Balloons and baby's breath. I was like, okay, well, you
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: have a point.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: I mean... Yeah, I agree. There's something so nostalgic about
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: baby's breath when I see it. I'm like, aww. I know.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: Aw, 80s. It's just so 80s, right?
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and 70s. No. And 60s.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: No, I'm just kidding. No. No.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: But it really hit its stride in the 80s.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: I just became aware of it in the 80s, you know?
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: Well, it's a gorgeous piece, and you keep using it.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: That house is full of babies everywhere.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Emily, stop it. Don't spread rumors.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: Can't spread the truth.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: Next Booze and Bravo event, I'm dressing up as Baby's
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Breath from Courtney's Party.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: A breath of baby's fresh air.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: I'll be balloons in baby's breath. That was our prom theme.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Baby's breath is like the best name, though, for a flower.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: It's a dried flower, right? It's dried.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: You can have it fresh. No, Emily.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: Don't argue with me.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: You like it dried or artificial. Okay, Robin.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: You've always said that.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay, Robin.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: Don't grab that hat. I guess Robin showed up to
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: this podcast today and wanted to stand right up to me.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm just saying what I saw. I'm just saying
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: what I know and what you said. And you said,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: keep it coming, the baby's breath, back a truck up.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: I love it. I swim in it.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: But for real, though, it's such a dried flower, but
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: does it grow like that? Does it grow like a
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: dried flower?
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: Yes. No, it grows.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: It's like a soft. I've seen it fresh. Oh, okay.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: Fresh baby's breath air. I've seen it.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Because there was so much potpourri in the 80s, too.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: In early 90s, I feel like. And you just would
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: throw baby's breath in there for shits and giggles. Yep.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: To cover up the smell of shit and giggles.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: Dried shits and giggles.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: Anywho.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. If you walk up to me
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: and hand me baby's breath, I'm going to be like,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: this is a murder in plain sight. But I'm going
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: to know. That's how I'm going to know. Okay.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: So, traitors. Episode 7, traitors. Are you ready?
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm ready. I'm so ready.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Okay. I loved this episode. I loved it. I loved it.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: I loved it. It was one of my favorite episodes
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: of traitors.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: That's how I felt about last week, and I liked
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: this week. Oh.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: I liked last week too. Yeah.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: You know, this season's kind of getting flack online and
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's real. I know. I really
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: like this season.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: I'm shocked to hear you say that.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: I think it's great. I think people are frustrated with
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: the faithfuls and I think they need to, like, maybe
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: that's where it's coming from. I don't know.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: I think they're, okay. I, you know, this is such
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: a rollercoaster ride with these faithfuls and murderers and like,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: I think the faithfuls are doing a good job. I
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: don't like that they're not listening to Victor. Obviously, I'm
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: very pro-Victor. I feel like, unfortunately, luck is not on
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: his side. He is not a reliable or convincing person
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: to them because they just feel like he's just unhinged.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it would be like to be
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: in the castle with Victor acting like that if I
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: would believe him or not. But obviously on this side,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you guys, he's so convincing that he just
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: keeps banging that gong when he is at breakfast. Oh,
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: my God. And he is calling out Tamika as a
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: traitor to her face. It's one of the greatest things
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: I've ever seen. And I wish they would do that more.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: Like he is so convinced and I'm so impressed. And
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: I love that he's going to die on this hill.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: But I also totally understand why they're not believing him.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: I get why Abby L thinks it's Wyatt. I could
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: understand her reasoning behind that. I can also understand the
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: reasoning why Christy thinks it's Abby L. Like, I could
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: actually be convinced in the castle by either one of
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: those people for either one of those, you know, faithfuls. So,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: and there is the point that the traitors are doing such...
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: a great job. Tamika is a gosh darn star. The
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: way that she has kept it together and handled herself
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: in the face of Victor calling her a traitor to
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: her face is remarkable. It's remarkable.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that Victor normally would have been banished
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: much earlier because people do not like to be forced
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: into decisions. And he seems to be doing a lot
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: of like, no, you got to do this. You have
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: to do this. This is what I'm saying. Yeah. And
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: he's so forceful that him coming up for banishment made
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: so much sense to me because I'm like, I don't
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: know how he stayed this long. I guess Jay is
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: silent now because we never hear from him, but he
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: would have been banished for that. And now he's like
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: still around. But I do think that like, we have
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: to remember that nobody knows these people. There's no preconceived notion.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: This isn't celebrity traitors where it's like, we all kind
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: of know something about somebody before we go in. Nobody
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: knows anything about each other. So we do think it's
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: taking longer because you're having like a blank slate of
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: trust and also nervous and making friends and trying to
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: like fit into this crazy thing. And it's, I do
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: think it's harder.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: Oh my God, it is harder. And then we've got
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: Clyde saying specifically to Tamika, like, even if people are
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: saying it's you, I'm not going to do that because
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: he's like, I don't believe it. And like, you're my
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: only last person that I am like friends with. So
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: I would never do that to you. She's like, right.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: Oh my God. Right. I mean, it's just, it is
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: wild how she is doing this. I mean, it's incredible.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: She and Joe are have literally dug themselves out of
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: the fruit gate almost perfectly. The fact that Joe is
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: sitting with these guys and he's trying to convince Wyatt
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: that it's Victor, because Wyatt is like the only guy
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: who actually has Victor's back and is believing Victor and
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: is kind of onto Tamika. So by the way, Wyatt
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: is a darling son. Okay.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: Son of a darling.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: Son of a darlin'. And man, is he playing a
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: good game because he actually he's getting it and he
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: sees what the truth is. And the fact that he
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: wasn't persuaded by Joe, even though Joe was like, what
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: do we got to do to like, you know, you know,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: convince you that it's Victor. And I'm like, holy shit.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: Joe is putting it out there so hard.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: It's amazing.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a. theory online. I saw a clip of
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: some people talking about it, too, on the debrief. Brittany
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: Geneva was saying, like, look, I think the producers are
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: in such a bind that they want Victor to stay.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: So they didn't put money marks on the bag. So
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: we don't know who actually won. And the cast doesn't
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: know who won that challenge. So when they get the
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: part in, they can give it to whoever's going to
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: save Victor. the producers can decide, oh, randomly you won
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: and you can say Victor in the pardon. And then
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: a lot of people are like, the producers do not
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: want Victor to leave because he is the one that
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: knows and he's the only one that knows and we
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: can't keep getting Faithfuls out because then we don't have
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: a show. But I don't agree with that. I think
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: that that's not accurate because I watched it twice. And
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: I think, I do think the producers are getting involved
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: in that they didn't tell anybody what the secret power
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: was going to be until the end of the round table.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: And depending who was in that circle at the end,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: I do think it would have been a different secret power.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: Whether it would be that dinner thing that they've done
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: before to reveal a traitor or whatever. I do think,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: because it could have gone any way. It didn't have
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: to be Victor in that circle at the end of
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: the episode. It could have been Tamika.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: So I am, I do think that Just in producing
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: the show, I do think that now I'm realizing, oh, yeah,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: sometimes like the producers are. There's like a choose your
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: own adventure thing happening, I think, behind the scenes.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: That could be very possible. I mean, it would like,
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: for example, like with The Bachelor, The Bachelorette. I mean,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: they have to make calls. right then and there, what
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: they're going to do and how they're going to do
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: it and who's going to go on what date with,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: you know, it does seem plausible that producers would make
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: some game time decisions, but I don't think that they
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: would plant something necessarily. I, I guess, you know, I
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: haven't really heard, you know, broad strokes about, you know,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: rumors within reality shows where they really plant things on
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: competition shows. I just, But I'm not really dialed into
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: that universe necessarily. It just doesn't seem like right.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah. The only thing that makes me think like they
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: really needed to, they really wanted control of whatever this was.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: Like there was no money on the bags. Usually you
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: know how much amount you're putting into your barrel. Right.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: You can see how much, oh, this is a 300 pound,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: I've got a 300 pound bag of whatever. Yeah. Or-
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: You know the amount, you know who won at the
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: end of a challenge. And this challenge, they were just
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: grabbing bags and throwing them into barrels. And then there
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: were black hearts.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: Also, I wonder if they don't want to leave any
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: money on the table for them if they don't rack
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: up enough money. That too. Oh man, that challenge was
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: really frustrating because it was true that people were getting
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: others out because they didn't want the competition. And I
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: understand that. But at the same time, you've got to
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: make money or else you won't have much to win.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: And so when Victor is so upset about being tagged
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: out when he was one of the people that was
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: like getting a lot of money, that really should prove
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: to people that he is a serious faithful. Like he's
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: done a lot to prove that he's a faithful. That's
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: why I don't understand why more people aren't getting that
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: vibe from Victor. But again, I'm on the other side.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: I can't judge from what they're seeing. But to me...
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: He really seems like he has it together. And like Wyatt,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: I think he was the one that said, look, we've,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: we voted on emotions. We voted on facts. We voted
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: on vibes and we're wrong on all of them. So
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: why don't we go in a different direction? And that's
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: when Joe was like, yeah, it's Victor. You know, what
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: can I do to get you to do the Victor?
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: Because I think that like, if Wyatt is someone who's
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: starting to branch off into the same area as Victor
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: and he's very level-headed, it can go one or two
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: ways where people are going to actually think like Abby L,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: Wyatt is a traitor and they're going to think Victor's
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: a traitor and then they're traitors together, you know?
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I, I am like to your point though, if
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: I'm in that castle, every single one of them has
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: a solid reason that so-and-so is a traitor.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: Victor's makes the least sense. If I'm in the castle
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: and he's going off this fruit gate thing, To me,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: it just reeks of conspiracy that doesn't make any sense.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: And it's already been days and I'm forgetting things. I'd
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: be like, dude, what? I can't disregard Victor fast enough
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: if I'm in that castle.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: I'm shocked to hear you say that. Because you as
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: a player, like if you were playing this game, you
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: would know more than anybody that these murder in plain
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: sight happen with the most bizarre of things. Handing someone
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: a book. having them drink out of a chalice. You know,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: having somebody accept fruit from you makes so much sense.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know why no one is getting that.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: Because there's so much happening. Victor moving Abby's hair off
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: her face was so weird to me. Jay coming around
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: and being like, I'm a hugger. I'm hugging. That was
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: weird to me. Also, I know this from... They knew
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: this in the castle that one of the cast has
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: a fruit allergy. That would play in my head big time.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: Why would the producers have us eat fruit if somebody
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: has a fruit allergy?
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: Who has a fruit allergy?
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Ben, Barrel Rolling Ben has talked about it.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: He is like, look, we knew somebody in the cast
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: had a fruit allergy. And I don't know if that's...
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen it being mentioned yet.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: Wait, who said this where?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: Barrel Ben... now post traders had said that they, that
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: they knew someone in the cast had a fruit allergy
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: and they were all dealing with that too. So to
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: that point, I'm like, I don't know what I'm not seeing,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: but I would be, everything would be weird to me
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: except for if they did a Congo line that when
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: it happened, I thought it was fucking weird as shit
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: seasons ago and celebrity traders. But there has been really
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: weird stuff. Jay with the hug was weird because in
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: my mind, it's physical contact that, or a drink. Yeah.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: It's not, I wouldn't have clocked the, and because the
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: message is coming from Victor and it's so wild, Victor
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 3: is so crazy making about it. I would disregard it.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: I would.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And especially if everybody else is supporting the idea
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: to disregard it. It's such a social game like that,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: where it's like, And psychological. I, I, I wish I,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: I wish I would be clear thinking enough to see it,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: but I, I just don't believe that I would be.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, I, I, I doubt my ability there.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: Well, uh, again, Tamika, just the way that she is
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: just like, I didn't even eat the fruit. Like I didn't,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: she is so convincing. It's, it's incredible work. And when
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: she's sitting with Clyde, uh, I got to hand it
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: to her. She is so solid as a rock. And
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: but and yet you can see in her eyes a
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: little bit of like, yeah, I have to put this on. Like,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: I've got to put on my game face right now
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: as much as it hurts. Like he that had to
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: hurt her a little bit to be talking to Clyde
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: and him being like, I know that these rumors about you,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: but I'm not going to go for it. And she's like, yeah.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: And then also she. she's just so good with other
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: people and making them think it's their idea. And that
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: is just the mark of a really good player. I
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: think Ben observing Katie was amazing. Like he is on
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: to Katie and the fact that when he voted at
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: the round table, And I think he did this on
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: purpose where he was like, I mean, I don't even know.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know anymore, you guys. I just said Katie.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I don't even know anymore. I don't know.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: And I think he did that on purpose so to
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: not show his hand because I think he's going to
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: try to convince people hard.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: We showed his hand pretty hard when he threw the
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: black heart in her barrel in the game. Because he's
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: the one that snuffed out her scarecrow at the game.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: What?
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, that face was amazing. Was that me? There were
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: so many great moments. And then like when they were
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: outside trying to after like before the game and stuff
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: like that, trying to figure things out. And Jay, who
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: is like barely to be seen.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: He's pointing to Victor about it. And he just kind
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: of reminded me of a Christopher guest character. Cause he's like,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, someday we're just going to find out about,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: you know, everything that he's doing right now. And I'm just,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just saying, huh? And he like points
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: is I was just like, this guy is such a character.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: It's amazing.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: It's so great. So anyway, the, the scarecrow grant game
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: was kind of bananas. And I really was concerned for Joe,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: like seriously.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: God, when he collapsed at the end, I, I was like,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: get a medic. Whoa. I'm sure that they cut that out,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: but there was somebody had to run over there and
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: check on him. I know he was like doing a bit,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: but I was also like, can we please be ready?
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah um because it was like.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 3: A lot of uphill like the scarecrows were kind of
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: downhill and it was just like sprinting back and forth
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: which is also like why i'm like why did you
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: guys murder Mark? I know. Like they murdered so many challenges. Yeah.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: There was a lot that didn't make sense with the
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: choices there, but yeah. Um, yeah.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: Do you think Tamika genuinely fucked up the name Christie
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: and Katie, or do you think she really didn't mean
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: to say Katie to Victor, which then gets outed at
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: the round table?
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't know. Yeah. I don't, I, I don't
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: know because she is really good. So it's like I
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: could see it going both ways. I could see her
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: being so smart to think, oh, Christy, Katie, two K names,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: you know, like everyone's kind of blending together here and
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: names can be hard, whatever. And she's like, I'm not
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: good at names. I could totally see her making that mistake. However,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: I could see her pivoting and totally playing that off.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: And I can't tell. What do you think?
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is why maybe she's a great traitor,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: because I don't know. I could totally have Tamika's back.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: She just screwed up. But when I watched it again,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: I was like, she goes for Katie. Hard. And she
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: doesn't say it twice, but I'm just like, you say Katie.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: And that came out pretty quick. And I don't know.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: So I... Could see it either way. Yeah.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: God, that was that. When she said Katie, I was like, oh,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: my God, this game is getting good.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: And then Katie voted for Tamika. So if she can
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: clear it up in the turret in a way that
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: makes Katie. But now maybe the wheels are going to
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: come off a little bit.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, I love that Katie voted for Tamika. And I
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, my God, you guys, this is getting
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: so good.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, man.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: It's such a great show. I love the episode. Can't
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: wait till next week. And, you know, that's our recap
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: for Traders. You know, kind of short and sweet, but
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: we love it. Thank you guys so much for listening.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: And thanks again to everybody who showed up at the
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: Booze and Bravo Halloween Drama Darling event last night. We
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: loved it. So bye for now. Bye, Ems.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: Bye.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: Bye.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: Drama Darling.
• 1:21:15
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