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Normally Podcast: A Normal Inauguration Day Recap · Normally

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, we were back on Normally the show with
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  Speaker 1: normalish takes for when the news gets weird and it
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  Speaker 1: is a very cold Inauguration Day edition of Normally. I'm
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  Speaker 1: here with as always.
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  Speaker 2: Carol Marko. It's nice to talk to you, MK. Can't
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  Speaker 2: wait to hear your impressions of Inauguration Day.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I was a little skeptical of moving
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  Speaker 1: in inside, even though I know there's precedent for that
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  Speaker 1: when it's very cold, and I'm a woosen the cold,
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  Speaker 1: so you'd think I would support it, But I was
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  Speaker 1: worried about sort.
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  Speaker 2: Of the same girl name.
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  Speaker 1: I was worried about the sort of majesty. I was
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  Speaker 1: worried about people not getting to see what they had
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  Speaker 1: traveled to see, many from very far away, and many
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  Speaker 1: people who had spent a long time supporting the president. However,
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  Speaker 1: it was bone chilling outside. It was really nasty, definitely.
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  Speaker 1: It actually snowed yesterday while we were on air at
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  Speaker 1: various times in sleated, and it was icy, and it
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  Speaker 1: was like a wind chill of twelve and so I
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  Speaker 1: think everybody had had a fun time inside restaurants and
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  Speaker 1: parties and made the best of the weekend and the
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  Speaker 1: Rotunda experience was really beautiful. I of course was not
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  Speaker 1: among the six hundred invited inside the rotunda, but it
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  Speaker 1: was beautiful watching it on TV and covering it.
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  Speaker 2: Love it. But I saw you were at some parties.
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  Speaker 2: I saw you met. Who did you meet?
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  Speaker 1: I met Connor McGregor.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Connor McGregor was great celebrity spotting. I would get
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  Speaker 2: my picture taken with him. I know who he is.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, well, that's you know, he's really famous because he's
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  Speaker 1: a he's the fighter that everyone knows, right. He's like
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  Speaker 1: our he's our generations Mike Tyson level, well known. And
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  Speaker 1: it was funny. I was talking to at It was
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  Speaker 1: at the Free Press party the night before the inauguration,
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  Speaker 1: and I was talking to an Atlantic reporter who was like,
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  Speaker 1: my husband says, there's some famous fighter around here. And
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  Speaker 1: so my husband and I, who are both UFC fans,
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  Speaker 1: are looking around trying to see, like, oh, there's probably
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  Speaker 1: a medium famous UFC fighter here. It's like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: but with more cusswords. Is that kind of Regrettiger? And
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  Speaker 1: here's the fun part, Carol, someone who works in his team,
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  Speaker 1: This is a great lesson about like being nice to
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  Speaker 1: folks throughout your career, no matter which job they have. YEA,
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  Speaker 1: someone on his team says Connor, I want you to
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  Speaker 1: meet Mary Catherine Ham. Amazing, And I go what because
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  Speaker 1: we were just trying to sneak over and get a selfie, right,
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  Speaker 1: And it turns out it was a young man who
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  Speaker 1: interreed at the Hugh Hewitt Show for several years and
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  Speaker 1: we used to work with each other over the phone
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  Speaker 1: doing radio in like twenty eleven, and so we did
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  Speaker 1: need to meet him and it was fantastic. So I
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  Speaker 1: was excited about that. I was excited about the other
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  Speaker 1: celebrity siding I had, which was Jillian Michaels and I
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  Speaker 1: love to talk.
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  Speaker 2: She's amazing, she was a blast. I knew you guys
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  Speaker 2: would be friends. When I met her, I was like,
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  Speaker 2: you have to meet my co host Mary Catherine Ham,
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  Speaker 2: and I just I knew that would be a loved connection.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. I could definitely hang out with her
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  Speaker 1: in the gym or not, and she would definitely beat
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  Speaker 1: me in the gym, but I could do my best.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, so a little a couple of celebrity sightings
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  Speaker 1: and then mostly work other than that one party.
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  Speaker 2: Right, well, it sounds like a really good time. The
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  Speaker 2: only thing I remember about Connor McGregor I feel like
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  Speaker 2: we were watching this together, but it must have been
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  Speaker 2: like via like the Internet together when he broke someone's
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  Speaker 2: nose with his shoulder. Do you remember that fight? I
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  Speaker 2: just remember talking about it to you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's funny. I'm sure I'm at the end of
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  Speaker 1: this weekend blanking on something that I definitely should remember.
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  Speaker 2: Something. Yeah, he like just knocked his shoulder into someone's nose.
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  Speaker 2: Is impressive, really.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and there is something that's actually a good segue
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  Speaker 1: to the like the differentiation between the Trump celebrations and
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  Speaker 1: the actual Rotunda inauguration, because man, like the the rally
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  Speaker 1: before the day before the inauguration, uh, you got it
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  Speaker 1: swerves from Girls Gone Bible giving a prayer to Kid
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  Speaker 1: Rock doing bah with Deba to uh to the Hulkster
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  Speaker 1: and two first time Puerto Rican Pennsylvania voters. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's just like and then of course ends with the
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  Speaker 1: village people dancing with Trump and then you know the
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  Speaker 1: Connor mcgregors of the world and this like very interesting
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  Speaker 1: new coalition. It's kind of wild. And then you get
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  Speaker 1: to the Rotunda where it's just like this really beautiful
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  Speaker 1: traditional ceremony.
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  Speaker 2: It's actually amazing how really normal and traditional and stayed.
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  Speaker 2: Trump's speech was. I thought it was calm, collected. You know,
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  Speaker 2: look during in twenty sixteen when he gave his speech
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  Speaker 2: and George W. Bush said, that's some weird shipman, like
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  Speaker 2: that was some weird shipman.
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  Speaker 1: It was, it was, and this was not.
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  Speaker 2: This was not weird shit. This was really really normal
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  Speaker 2: and I appreciated that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought that his speech had sort of two halves.
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  Speaker 1: One was that it was a pretty explicit indictment of
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  Speaker 1: the current administration and the complaints that Americans have with
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  Speaker 1: the problems that leftists have given them. Yeah, and I
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  Speaker 1: think it was deserved. Right. There are some I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: who are like, oh, he shouldn't have done that to
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  Speaker 1: his face or what have you, but they the discontent
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  Speaker 1: with what the Biden administration gave Americans is what created
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  Speaker 1: this moment, and it was exemplified by Biden. Will get
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  Speaker 1: into this the details of it, but it was exemplified
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  Speaker 1: by Biden pardoning his entire family as he was arriving
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  Speaker 1: for this August ceremony. That's right, just disgraceful. Ignominious behavior
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  Speaker 1: to the end, and I don't even know if he
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  Speaker 1: knows that he's signing it, have.
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  Speaker 2: No ideas, and so we'll seg into the you know,
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  Speaker 2: into more about the pardons in Biden's last day. But
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned to my fourteen year old daughter that Biden
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  Speaker 2: pardoned his family and she was like, maybe he thinks
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  Speaker 2: it did something wrong and he just doesn't know, because
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's Biden, Like, who knows what do he knows?
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  Speaker 2: Fourteen years old knows this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess. So then you did the first half
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  Speaker 1: of the speech and it's all about, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: people feeling like they can't get basic services. I deeply
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  Speaker 1: appreciated his mentioning of North Carolina. He's just done it
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  Speaker 1: twice in two days, so I am very happy that
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  Speaker 1: North Carolina will not be forgotten. La has mentioned repeatedly
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  Speaker 1: as well that this lack of trust in institutions has
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  Speaker 1: been driven by those who wanted to take him out.
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  Speaker 1: These are all fair things to point out. I think
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  Speaker 1: one of my favorite lines of the speech was when
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  Speaker 1: he was like he made a promise not to politicize
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  Speaker 1: the Justice Department and go after enemies, and he said
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  Speaker 1: it's something I know a little bit about that was
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  Speaker 1: in mind. Yeah, like a fairly subtle way to do that.
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  Speaker 1: And then there was the like we're America impossible is
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  Speaker 1: what we do best half of the speech and I enjoyed, loveday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was just great. I look, it's
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  Speaker 2: an optimistic moment. It's a moment that we really need
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  Speaker 2: someone to bring us a little bit closer together. That
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  Speaker 2: that person is Donenald Trump is a surprise to me
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  Speaker 2: as much as it is to anyone, but it is.
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  Speaker 2: It is Donald Trump, but somehow it's Donald Trump yanking
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  Speaker 2: the country together.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and he's explicitly thanked the new minority voters that
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  Speaker 1: he earned during this time. I thought it was interesting
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  Speaker 1: on that front and the sort of the cultural vibe
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  Speaker 1: shift that Soldier boy. A couple people went after him
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  Speaker 1: for performing at the Crypto Ball before the inauguration, and
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  Speaker 1: he did a video and just said, look, made it
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  Speaker 1: very simple. Obama didn't put money in my pocket. Kamala
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  Speaker 1: didn't put money in my pocket. Biden didn't. Trump did.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's important.
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  Speaker 1: The idea that people will say that out loud. Who
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  Speaker 1: are prominent people who are getting flack from their Peers.
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  Speaker 1: Is a real difference.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, some might call it a vibe shift.
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  Speaker 1: Did we talk about that. Oscar de la Renta is
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  Speaker 1: is advertising that they have dressed Usha Vance and Evanka
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  Speaker 1: Trump this time around. It's amazing the fashion houses are
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  Speaker 1: definitely having a change of heart.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. I think that that's a really
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  Speaker 2: good sign. And look, I mean obviously these you know,
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  Speaker 2: last time around there were people who were dressing Milania,
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  Speaker 2: but they would get such a barrage of hate and
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  Speaker 2: attempted cancelation that they would tone it down and not
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  Speaker 2: talk about it. He's not doing that. And he's my
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  Speaker 2: favorite designer honestly, him and Carolina Herrera. If I could
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  Speaker 2: just wear two designers, and if I had a zillion dollars,
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  Speaker 2: that's who I would wear all the time.
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  Speaker 1: I also love Oscar de la Rena and by the way,
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  Speaker 1: Usha off the charts. Look I empathize with or I sympathize.
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  Speaker 1: I can't empathize because I can never dress this well,
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  Speaker 1: but I sympathize with Usha having to be next to
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  Speaker 1: mala Ania and Evanka. Right, these are two women who
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of experience dressing in this way frequently
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  Speaker 1: over many years. Defining their own style, all that kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff, and Usha just knocked it out of the part.
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  Speaker 2: She was breathtaking.
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  Speaker 1: She really was incredible.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, I thought one of my I was surprised,
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  Speaker 3: you know, even even me, the old cynic I got
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  Speaker 3: a little teary watching jd Vance get sworn in because
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  Speaker 3: it is a generational change, yep.
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  Speaker 1: It is something that frankly, we've been hoping for that
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  Speaker 1: there would be a new generation of leaders. We've been
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  Speaker 1: watching the boomers fight each other for a while. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And to see and to see Usha, who I really admire,
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  Speaker 1: with her two year old, which is a real high
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  Speaker 1: difficulty mom moved two year old at a formal, like bold,
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  Speaker 1: high stakes event like that. Mine would not stay quiet
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  Speaker 1: during that swearing in.
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  Speaker 4: But if you get the band aids, she had three
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  Speaker 4: band aids on her hand, which of course we all
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  Speaker 4: know if you're a parent, every parent is because she
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  Speaker 4: just wanted band aids and someone was like, we got
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  Speaker 4: to give her the band aids she needs.
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  Speaker 1: She needs her Barbie band aids or whatever it is.
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  Speaker 1: But to see her carrying her kiddo up there and
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  Speaker 1: proud of her husband and watch him after having come
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  Speaker 1: from his upbringing, which just a really it's a really
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  Speaker 1: nice moment.
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  Speaker 2: It really was, and it was so relatable. They're just
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  Speaker 2: a very relatable couple. I saw you tweet about whether
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  Speaker 2: or not he was getting to watch the football game
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  Speaker 2: he went to Notre Dame or he went to Ohio.
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  Speaker 1: He went to it. He went, let me help you,
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  Speaker 1: he went to.
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  Speaker 2: Help me, help me please. The thing is the fact
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  Speaker 2: that I even know who's playing. You really just yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because I have friends who are into Notre Dame and
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  Speaker 2: they were talking about it, and that's the only reason
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  Speaker 2: Night was playing tonight.
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  Speaker 1: You knew that there was a football game, and you
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  Speaker 1: knew at least part of the name of each school.
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  Speaker 2: It's amazing, so tried, Yeah, that makes sense. He went
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  Speaker 2: to Ohio because I was from.
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  Speaker 1: Style, right, he went to They actually referred to it
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  Speaker 1: as the Ohio State University. And yes, I do hope
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  Speaker 1: that he's I don't when you hear this will know
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  Speaker 1: who won. But I do hope that he's able to
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  Speaker 1: watch that football game because as the most normal dude
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  Speaker 1: who's run for president may or run for vice president
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  Speaker 1: in my lifetime. George W. Bush being the other most
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  Speaker 1: normal dude of recent memory. He should he should be
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  Speaker 1: able to watch his game. Really, I hope so. Right.
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  Speaker 2: You know what's really funny when you think back to
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  Speaker 2: they tried to pin that he was weird. I know
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  Speaker 2: that was how they ran against him, Like, I know
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  Speaker 2: what a terrible campaign message that did not resonate at all.
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  Speaker 2: Jd Vance is weird, that's weird.
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  Speaker 1: I mean he's actually just a He's a lethal combination
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  Speaker 1: of normal seeming and exceptionally smart, brilliant. Right, that's a
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  Speaker 1: killer combo.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, personable, all of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I also wanted to applaud Carrie Underwood, who you know,
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  Speaker 1: the music dropped out. It was clear that they couldn't
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  Speaker 1: cue the music backing and it wasn't unclear to me
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  Speaker 1: whether it was a track or it was a band
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  Speaker 1: that was playing or what have you. But I loved
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  Speaker 1: when she she's very calm. Obviously she's a total pro,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just getting to the point where people are
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  Speaker 1: awkward enough, and you know, the TV people are like,
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  Speaker 1: are we going to have to stall for time? And
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  Speaker 1: she says she looks at the guy trying to troubleshoot
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  Speaker 1: and she just says, I can just sing it, and
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  Speaker 1: like of course she can. It's the clean version of
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  Speaker 1: our Riley's effort. Let's do it live and and she
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  Speaker 1: then says, if you know, the words helped me out,
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  Speaker 1: And it was a really it turned into a much
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  Speaker 1: more beautiful probably moment because everybody was singing with her,
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  Speaker 1: so that was cool.
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  Speaker 2: It was cool, and Biden was right next to her,
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  Speaker 2: And when she said that, I was like, oh, no,
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  Speaker 2: he does not know the words, and then he kind
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  Speaker 2: of knew the words, so there you go.
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  Speaker 1: It all worked out. No, So it was it was
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  Speaker 1: It's always interesting to watch to witness history. I remember
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  Speaker 1: covering the being on set for the first Trump inauguration
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  Speaker 1: and people already sort of losing their minds a little
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  Speaker 1: bit on set, and my sort of saying like, hey, hey,
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  Speaker 1: some of these are just normal personnel changes that every
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  Speaker 1: administration makes. I don't think we need to make such
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  Speaker 1: huge deal about each of them. And there's an interesting
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  Speaker 1: to me Counterhi history about had they treated him normally, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: in his first term, he probably would have been a
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  Speaker 1: moderate ish Republican who made some deals with Democrats. He's
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  Speaker 1: very ideologically flexible. They wouldn't have created a situation where
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  Speaker 1: Biden ends up becoming president and just thrashing the brand
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  Speaker 1: and the party for four years, and they probably wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have ended up. They might not have ended up with
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  Speaker 1: at least this type of second term for Donald Trump right.
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  Speaker 2: Right where everybody's super excited to see him.
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  Speaker 1: Right, they would have if there was a second term,
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  Speaker 1: it would have been it would have been mid mid
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  Speaker 1: COVID and people would have been like, like kind of
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  Speaker 1: bumming out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I treated him normally, very realistic, alternative history.
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  Speaker 2: I really could see it happening. We'll be right back
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  Speaker 2: on normally. So Biden went out with a bank A
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  Speaker 2: lot of it was expected and still super gross. Like
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  Speaker 2: earlier in the day, John Pittortz tweeted, like, is he
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  Speaker 2: going to wait to give his brother the pardon till
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  Speaker 2: like eleven forty five, And at like eleven thirty five,
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  Speaker 2: he was like, Okay, now's the time, and he did.
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  Speaker 2: He pardoned his brother and other members of his family.
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  Speaker 2: He also pardoned Anthony Fauci. That is one that particularly
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  Speaker 2: I feel kind of strongly about. I also don't think
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  Speaker 2: that that one matches the other pardons really and it's
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  Speaker 2: very curious to me, and it makes me want to
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  Speaker 2: know what exactly he thought he was stardening Fauci for
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  Speaker 2: or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: It is, no stacking interesting. I feel like each of
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  Speaker 1: these pardons gives you a window and to when someone
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  Speaker 1: started committing crimes. It's like, it's like we're first two,
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  Speaker 1: thy fourteen.
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  Speaker 2: And you for letting us know when to start that search.
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  Speaker 1: I do think it's I'm also upset about the Fauci pardon,
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  Speaker 1: And of course the Biden administration wants to have it
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  Speaker 1: both ways, so they they say that, you know, these
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  Speaker 1: guys accepting these pardons, by no way is an admission
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  Speaker 1: of guilt on their behalf. But they also had their
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  Speaker 1: DOJ announce and assert to J six folks that if
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  Speaker 1: they accept pardons, that would be an admission of repence.
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  Speaker 1: So they're really they really want to have it both
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  Speaker 1: ways here and and you really can't. But yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: these guys, you know, Milli and Fauci are like happily
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  Speaker 1: accepting the pardons. I feel like if it was me,
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  Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, man, thing wrong right right? But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm curious when he's curious when he started
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  Speaker 1: his crimes. I do I do think all of the
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  Speaker 1: things that lefties overreach on and that Biden does end
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  Speaker 1: up coming back to haunt them. And I don't mean
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  Speaker 1: that just in the precedent for Trump doing things. What
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  Speaker 1: I mean is that, although yes, we can get into that,
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  Speaker 1: I don't just mean that. What I mean is that
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  Speaker 1: when you've pardoned Fauci, he can't play the fifth anymore
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  Speaker 1: because he's immune from anything, and people still want to
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  Speaker 1: get to the bottom of this. So you might actually
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  Speaker 1: be able to question him without Trump, without the risk
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  Speaker 1: of Trump leaning into the temptation to go to vengeful
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  Speaker 1: on him.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, And look, you know, the thing is, I have
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  Speaker 2: a very strong opinion on Bauci. I think he did
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  Speaker 2: a lot wrong. I think he was a political agent
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  Speaker 2: in a time where we really really needed a scientist
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  Speaker 2: to explain things to us and to be factual and
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  Speaker 2: truthful and not affected by like Randy Weingarten's wants and needs,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera. But none of that is a crime. So
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  Speaker 2: what is he being pardoned for here? And the thing is,
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  Speaker 2: of course, what is his connection to the Wuhan research Lab?
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  Speaker 2: What is the idea here behind what the bidendministration was
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  Speaker 2: thinking when they pardoned him. They didn't pardon him for
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  Speaker 2: going on TV and saying that you don't need a mask,
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  Speaker 2: and then saying you need two masks, and then saying
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: you need a mask outside, and then saying you don't
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: need a mask outside. Right, none of that's none of
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: that's criminal. So it really does make you think, what
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: did this man do? What do they know? And how
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: do we find out? I'm fine with us finding out,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: and fine he doesn't get criminally charged for it because
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: of this pardon, but I want to know what he did.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I hope we get to the bottom of this.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. He mentioned, also in classic Fauci fashion,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: as he's accepting this pardon, that he has to accept
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: it because you know, the hypothetical things that Trump could
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: do that he's not doing. It's always a hypothetical risk.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: The hypothetical risk is so great that it could it
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: would cause intolerable distress to him and his family. And
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: I'm like, sure, you know, for sure everyone who waved
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: goodbye to their dying gramdma from the street and couldn't
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: hold a funeral or go to church or school, they'd
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: like a word about distress. Anthony Fauci, yep.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: And none of that is criminal, right, It's all all
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: kind of the wrong thing to do and incompetent and
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: his job and a jerk face. Sure, but none of
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: that's none of that is criminal. So I really do
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: think that, and you know, I have just the Rand
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Paul to get to the bottom of this. I hope
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: that Rand Paul runs with this.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I also looked up kind of the history of Trump
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: and Fauci, and for a long time they actually had
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: a very good working relationship and they complimented each other
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: and all of that. Their real main point of disagreement
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: and animosity is who gets the credit for getting the
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: vaccine rolled out quickly. That's not what Fauci haters don't
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: like about him.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: They're not like, you're not.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Giving the appropriate credit to Trump for the vaccine rollout.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: It's so, again, what is this really about?
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, perhaps we shall find out. Did you see also
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: that he pardoned he pardoned someone who killed murdered two
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: FBI agents. Yeah, I mean, and didn't at one point
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: all the things he said he wasn't going to do,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: he's done. He said he wasn't going to do violent offenders.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: He said he wasn't going to pardon his son. He
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: said it wasn't going to part of his partner, his family.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: He said he wasn't going to do a blanket preemptive pardons.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: In fact, when the hypothetical threat that one Donald Trump
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: would pardon his family came about in twenty twenty, is
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: that right? Yet in twenty twenty that when they made
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: a big deal over that, they asked Biden about this prospect,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: this very scary prospect of the norms being destroyed by
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump, which were later destroyed by Biden, and Biden said,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: you know, that would really make me worry. I'm paraphrasing,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: that would really make me worried about what the nation
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: and what the world would see about how justice works
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: in this country. And I'd be very concerned about that.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: And you would not see that kind of thing in
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: my administration. Every single promise he made about this, that's right, and.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: All the people who defended him as this is a
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: good man, this is a man who would never do
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: these kind of kinds of things, and then, of course,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: you know, then he did. The guy he released is
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Leonard Peltier from federal prison. He killed two FBI agents,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Jack Kohler and Ronald Williams at the Pine Ridge, Indian
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: reservation in South Dakota in nineteen seventy five. He was
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: serving two life sentences and now will be on home confinement.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: So a cop killer goes free.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Amazing stuff.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: KEUI agents not like being called cops, am I I
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: think their law enforcement.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: I just think over and over again, the left and
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: by himself end up being the threat. They say that
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Trump will be right, and it just happens over and
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: over and over again. And although I think some of
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Trump's behavior oversteps or is bad, even occasionally egregious, the
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: constitutional threat posed by the cover up of Biden's mental
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: state is something that goes beyond I think anything I've
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: ever seen in my lifetime as a as a scandal
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: of epic proportions in a presidency. Not that it's covered
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: that way, but it's just right.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: And the fact you know that all of this follows
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: that that he is handing out pardons to who knows
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: who and who knows why, He's making policies who knows why,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: and who knows who's putting it in front of him.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: All of that is just the scan to end all scandals.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: We're going to take a short break and come right
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: back with.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Normally, should we go into a little bit of Trump's
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: actions today. Yeah, because stuff started right away. The CBP
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: one app disappeared today. It got tiktoked, it got bricked.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: This is the app that allowed illegal immigrants to claim
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: asylum just automatically, and hundreds of thousands of people did
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: it through an app. We gave them an app for
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: this with no sort of vetting of the actual claims,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: and so that went dark. Like second one, a bunch
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: of other immigration executive actions are on the list. He's
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: really flooding the zone. And I a thing they've got
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: going for them is that they have much better prepped
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: than they were last time he came in the house.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Different administration, I mean in every way.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And so they have these vetted executive orders that
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: they're trying to get through. I think the Birthright CITIZENSHI
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: one is going to have some trouble. There's certainly going
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: to be ones that go to court, but a lot
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: of them are just very common sense, getting the Biden
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: administration's nonsense off the books, getting the federal government out
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: of things that shouldn't be doing and into the things
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: it should be. And so it's been an active day
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: and it ended with some pardons.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, he pardoned almost all of the January sixth participants,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: and he commuted is it three sentences.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: It's a handful. It's like between three and six. I've
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: been seeing different numbers. But he shortened the prison terms
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: for rioters convicted of violence against police and issued sweeping
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: pardons for scores of other defendants who participated in the
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: January sixth siege on the Capitol. Is what NPR calls it.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I do think not the violent ones, right, Like, I'm
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: fine with reassessing these cases. I think a lot of
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: people's civil liberties were abused. I think that even Enrique Tario,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: who's the Proud Boys chairman, got twenty two years because
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: he wouldn't take a plea deal that was like six
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: years or something, right, So he was punished for going
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: to trial, which I don't think should happen. A bunch
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: of people's info was dragneted so that they could find
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: the thousands of people who were within the vicinity of
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: the Capitol. They did a bunch of stuff they shouldn't
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: have done to get these people, and they've put insane
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: amounts of resources in time that would have been otherwise
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: used by the way for like actual violent criminals elsewhere.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: So I think, like I would have been very comfortable
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: with reassessing the nonviolent ones and not the violent ones, right,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: And the thing is is that this conversation would have
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: been a very different conversation if Joe Biden didn't exit,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: you know, pardoning everybody who's ever met for crimes that
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: they may or may not have done over the course
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: of decades. So I think that the left really did
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: shoot themselves in the foot with this, because it's very
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: hard for them to make this argument that oh, this
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: is wrong and that, you know, he shouldn't have blanket pardened.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel like much the same like you.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I'm obviously, you know, very much pro law enforcement and
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: anti violence, and I think that a lot of these
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: people's rights got trampled on. And I'm largely okay with
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: the blanket parden except for the violent ones.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think he misssteps there, and like, look,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: we're going to disagree with the moves he makes sometimes frankly,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: today I'll like it like it's on the margins right
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: where I'm like, okay, I like some of this and
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: not other parts of it. Like today he does the
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: inaugural speech, and I'm like, oh, that was that was good.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: And then he refuses to stick the landing and goes
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: next door and does this like rambling long speech to
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: his to his homers, to his you know, his fans.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: It's fan service. It never seems to hurt him very
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: badly though, So but yeah, in this case, I think
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I think that's that's the wrong use of this power.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Right. And Enrique Tario, just as a side note, was
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: not in the capitol that day. He had, you know,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: put together a group to march to the capitol, but
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: he himself wasn't even there.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, if you start looking into the details
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: of these cases, you go, wait, wait, wait, wait, this
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: doesn't seem like what I was told. Like Mema was
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Mema was parading inside, and there were That's the thing
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: about January sixth. There were very violent and scary moments,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: and then there were other moments that really were just
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: people walking through an open door.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they should differently, they should have been treated differently.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess we're just doing We're just trading pardons
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: all the way down now.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Right right, who even I don't even know what Congress
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: is doing anymore, is just going to be executive orders, right.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: I think that's what what what the Democrats have signed
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: up for after the last few years.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Well, on a bright note, I will say that the
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Senate joined together on the day of inauguration in the evening,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: maybe doing some of that drunk voting that Mark Mark
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Queen Mullendog's about to approve Senator Market Radio as Secretary
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: of State ninety nine zero. So look at that.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: We did. The unity. Incredible. I've never seen anything like it.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: We did the unity. It's so good. Oh man. By
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: the way, if I have decided that, yes, you shouldn't
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: wear shorts and a hoodie to inauguration, obviously, Senator John Fetterman. However,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I am on a sliding scale with this now because
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: if I have to trade his the decorum of his
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: outfit for his common sense stances, I think that's a
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: trade I'm willing to make.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And he just you know, there's a group, some
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: class of man that always wear shorts, and he's just
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: in that class, and there's nothing we could do about it.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: I think that I think that he should take a
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: page out of Malania's book, go to Carhart and ask
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: them to custom design him some formal wear.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: I love Carhart. If Carhart wants to designed me some
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: formal wear, I'm.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: In, well you needed it the in DC today, My goodness.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Yes, So wrapping this up okay, so you know we
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: have our yes I'm still mad bro segment and we
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: have the in case you missed it segment. I think
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: we could easily have a Nazi scandal segment.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: And if we drank every time someone in the Trump
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: administration is going to be accused of being a Nazi
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: in the next four years, I think we will be
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: drunk for many of these episodes. But the winner of
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: today's episode is Elon Musk and he gave a speech.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: He was very excitable, bouncing around the stage, which I
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: actually love to see. I love when he acts like
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: a little kid. It's super excited to be there. And
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: he put his hand on his heart and I don't
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: remember the exact words. He said something like my heart
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: goes out to you or yeah yeah, and he moved
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: his hand up towards the crowd in what people decided
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: was a Nazi salute and it's bananas. It's so crazy.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: I mean you know, and I hate, I actually hate
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: all the arguments of like, he's not a Nazi, like
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: he went to Israel, he's pro Jewish, I mean whatever,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Like that's not the point. The point is you can
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: move your hand in a certain way and not be
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: a Nazi, and like stop being crazy about it and
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: the really impressive thing. Sorry, go ahead, yeah, no, no,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: you go. Well, I was going to say that there's
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: the Anti Defamation League, which is a Jewish organization that
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: is extremely touchy and often gets really crazy about Oh
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: this is anti semitic, this is antismitic, which I really
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: think is a bad thing because plenty of things are
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: antismitic and we don't need to make things up. Yes,
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: and they tweeted this is a delicate moment. It's a
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: new day, and yet so many are on edge. Our
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: politics are inflamed, and social media only adds to the anxiety.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: It seems that Elon Musk made an awkward gesture in
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: a moment of enthusiasm, not a Nazi salute. But again,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: we appreciate that people are on edge. In this moment,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: all sides should give one another a bit of grace,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: perhaps even the benefit of doubt, and take a breath.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: This is a new beginning. That's hope. We're healing and
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: work towards unity in the months and years ahead. This
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: is such a shocker. This is like the most shocking
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: thing the ADL's ever done. They took a breath and
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: weren't crazy.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I love it. No, it's the right thing. They said
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: it eloquently. Many made eloquent arguments on Elon's behalf. I
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: just tweeted, I shouldn't cuss, but F you were not
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: doing this anymore. We're not doing this anymore.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: You don't and you don't curse, you really don't.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I try not to do the the really bad words
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: on the X, but I did tonight because that really
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: it ticked me off. And we have to just draw
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: a hardline with these people now, Like it's just like
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: we're not that's it and doing this. We all know
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: that that's not what he was doing. We all know
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: you're pretending. And I'm done pretending exactly whether it's on
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: men and women and not non binary, whatever it is.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I'm done pretending, whether the president's non compassments, We're done pretending.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: By the way, a few adds and ends before we
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: finish the pardons also included some of these pro life,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: nonviolent pro life protesters who have been thrown in prison
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: first up to three years, one of these women for
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: being outside an abortion clinic and having conflict with other
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: counter protesters. So that's nice to see. And then lastly,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: the reason that Fox News will continue to soar in
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: the ratings. Trump does a Q and A from the
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Resolute desk in his Oval office. Oh yeah, this is
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: so good, with a gaggle, and Doucy yells out a question.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: He says, do you have a letter from Biden in
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: your desk? Because you know they get the transition letter? Yeah,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: for each other, right, And Trump goes, oh, I haven't
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: checked yet, should we check? And I was like, this
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: is the most amazing TV, Like, this is the Trump superpower.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: And so he pulls it out and he's like, I
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: bet you'd like to read it together. Let me read
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: it first, and I'll fit. It's it's this insane back
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: and forth that is history playing out before your eyes.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: And that's that's why both Trump and Peter Deucy will
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: continue to succeed.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, they're just so natural, and I love it. I
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: love that Trump isn't you know a lifelong politician who
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: always watched everything he said and doesn't know how to
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: be normal in front of other people. I really enjoy
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: that about him. I think we're also going to enjoy
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: the transparency he kind of says what's on his mind. Yes,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: he's fantastic, but we'll take it after who knows what
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: was going on in the last four years did we
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: even have.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: A president exactly? That's one thing you can always say
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: for Trump is that he's doing the things pretty much
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: out in the open, and he's telling you what he's
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: going to do.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Yep, Well here we are. You know, this is the
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: first episode of the new Trump administration. Looking forward to
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: four years of talking about this.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: There's gonna be as if today is any example, there's
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: going to be a lot of news broken a lot
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: of the time, all day long.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, and we'll be there for all of it.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on Normally. Normally airs Tuesdays and Thursdays,
• 35:39
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• 35:43
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• 35:45
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• 35:48
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