Latest / Becker’s Payer Issues Podcast / Addressing Food Insecurity through Innovative Programs: Dr. Crystal Clark, the CMO for the Community Health Choices Program at UPMC Health Plan
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- 0:00Hello everyone. This is Jacob Emerson with the
- 0:02Becker's Pay Your Issues Podcast. Thrilled today to
- 0:04be joined by a very special guest. Doctor.
- 0:07Crystal Clark is the Chief Medical Officer for
- 0:09the Community Health Choices Program at UPMC
- 0:12Health Plan. Doctor Clark, thank you so much
- 0:15for taking the time to be with me
- 0:16on the podcast today.
- 0:18Oh, thank you, Jacob. I'm happy to be
- 0:20here.
- 0:21So doctor Clark, tell us a little bit
- 0:23about yourself. What's your background in terms of,
- 0:26your career background in health care, and what
- 0:29it is that you're doing today at UPMC?
- 0:33Sure. I I'm a internal medicine physician by
- 0:36training,
- 0:37and I've been
- 0:39a physician executive. So leadership roles in health
- 0:42plans and hospital systems
- 0:45and in some government agencies for the last
- 0:4815 years, but I started off as a
- 0:50internal medicine physician taking care of adults in
- 0:53the community and in the hospital,
- 0:55mostly in urban settings
- 0:58and transitioned into more executive roles after I
- 1:01realized that while I enjoy taking care of
- 1:04patients,
- 1:05I was really interested in the things that
- 1:08drive,
- 1:09healthy
- 1:10outcomes, and,
- 1:12chronic disease
- 1:13was one of the issues that really kept
- 1:15me up at night. How do we improve
- 1:17that? How do we decrease
- 1:18the rates of chronic disease in so many
- 1:20of our patients and and Americans? And so
- 1:24I transitioned into more leadership roles, more training
- 1:27and quality,
- 1:28information technology,
- 1:31health equity,
- 1:32and,
- 1:34transitioned then to UPMC,
- 1:37in a role for a specific type of
- 1:39insurance program
- 1:41called Community Health Choices,
- 1:43which doesn't just provide
- 1:45traditional health insurance for medical things like appointments
- 1:49and prescriptions and things like that. We also
- 1:51provide for a good portion of this particular
- 1:55contingent of Pennsylvanians.
- 1:57We also provide in home support, so personal
- 2:00attendants,
- 2:01medically tailored meals, transportation, things of that nature,
- 2:04because
- 2:05we realize that some,
- 2:08folks need
- 2:09social supports as well as traditional medicine
- 2:12to get well or or try and get
- 2:14to live their best life. So
- 2:17that is,
- 2:18the role I'm in now,
- 2:19with UPMC.
- 2:20It
- 2:21it actually is,
- 2:23I think, a perfect fit for me,
- 2:25from my journey
- 2:27in in trying to achieve equity for for
- 2:29all people.
- 2:30Absolutely. It sounds like it. And it really
- 2:32sounds like you're providing wraparound
- 2:35health care to to those populations that you
- 2:37serve.
- 2:39In that vein, Crystal, I wanna talk with
- 2:41you, about an issue that we hear about
- 2:44so often nowadays from health plans, from health
- 2:46systems,
- 2:47a social determinants that they are constantly looking
- 2:50for new ways to address, and that is
- 2:53food insecurity.
- 2:54I know this isn't an issue very familiar
- 2:56to you in terms of the work that
- 2:58you do. So
- 2:59let's level set for a second, and if
- 3:02you wouldn't mind explaining to our audience,
- 3:05what is food insecurity in terms of what
- 3:07does it look like on the ground,
- 3:10among the population that you serve, and and
- 3:12just how pervasive of an issue is it
- 3:14today?
- 3:16Well, it's a it's it's a really big
- 3:18issue, Jacob. Let me just first define it.
- 3:21So
- 3:22food insecurity
- 3:23is defined as the lack of consistent and
- 3:26dependable
- 3:27access to nutritious foods
- 3:29that are necessary
- 3:31to maintain optimal health.
- 3:33So
- 3:34consistent and dependable
- 3:36access to the foods you need to stay
- 3:39healthy.
- 3:40The term food insecurity
- 3:41is
- 3:42relatively new, 1995
- 3:44or so, started by the, USDA,
- 3:47but it it's been an issue for as
- 3:49long as we can remember.
- 3:51You know, you can remember hearing peep people
- 3:54talk about,
- 3:55chicken soup when you're sick or making sure
- 3:58that you eat well to help you recover.
- 4:00So we've we've known the relationship between good
- 4:03food and good health for quite some time,
- 4:05but the federal government got in the into
- 4:08this to really take us to the next
- 4:11level,
- 4:12define it,
- 4:13fund it, monitor it, pull together partnerships
- 4:17because it's become such a a big issue.
- 4:19So so let's talk about the size of
- 4:21it.
- 4:22About one out of every 8
- 4:25American adults experience some type of food insecurity.
- 4:29So at some point in their months,
- 4:32they either have,
- 4:34inadequate food or significantly
- 4:36inadequate food to last the entire month.
- 4:39And when we looked at this data
- 4:41in a survey done by the, Census Bureau,
- 4:44it was a specific household study done in
- 4:472023,
- 4:48they found that,
- 4:50about 12%
- 4:52of Americans
- 4:54in this survey
- 4:55sometimes or often did not have enough to
- 4:58eat in the preceding week.
- 5:00So you say, well, 12%,
- 5:02that's not great, but that means 88%
- 5:04of Americans
- 5:06do. They do have enough food.
- 5:08Well, 12% in the US represents about 28,000,000
- 5:12people.
- 5:13So the percentage is small, but the impact
- 5:15is huge.
- 5:17So it's it's a really, really important issue.
- 5:20The last thing I would say, Jacob,
- 5:23is when we've looked at
- 5:25overall health and and I I think this
- 5:27is a really important point.
- 5:30Many times, we think a person's health is
- 5:32dependent
- 5:34on their access to high quality health care.
- 5:37And make no mistake. It is very important.
- 5:39At UPMC, we know
- 5:41that good medical care can make the difference.
- 5:43Our our our logo is life changing medicine.
- 5:47But the data also tells us when you
- 5:49look at a person's overall health and wellness,
- 5:53only 20%
- 5:55is determined
- 5:57by the access to good medical care. The
- 6:00other 80%
- 6:02is driven by
- 6:04their access to a health physical environment, their
- 6:07access to healthy food, their access to employment,
- 6:11their access to good education, what we call
- 6:13the social determinants of health.
- 6:15So
- 6:16if you are interested in life changing medicine
- 6:19like we are at UPMC,
- 6:21you have to continue to give, you know,
- 6:23world class care, which we do, which will
- 6:26be responsible for about 20% of our patients'
- 6:29overall health and wellness, but then you have
- 6:31to partner with other organizations
- 6:33to help address that other 80%
- 6:36that allows to drive the the rest of
- 6:38the goal home of of optimal health.
- 6:40Absolutely. And that's such a great way you've
- 6:43phrased that earlier,
- 6:44Crystal, in terms of 12% of Americans experiencing
- 6:48food insecurity or not having enough access to
- 6:50the food they need. But but to your
- 6:52point that that represents a very large amount
- 6:55of people, 28,000,000
- 6:56people. And and I assume a lot of
- 6:58those are in are in Pennsylvania as well.
- 7:01So so Crystal talk to us a little
- 7:03bit about, you know, we we've heard critics
- 7:05say to us before, it's not the role
- 7:07of health systems or health plans,
- 7:09to be addressing social determinants. That it's it's
- 7:12up to government policies or the private sector.
- 7:14So what would you how would you respond
- 7:16to that? Why is it such an important
- 7:17issue
- 7:18for UPMC
- 7:20specifically, to be addressing these social determinants?
- 7:24Well, I think it's
- 7:26you can come at this many different ways,
- 7:28Jacob.
- 7:29You know?
- 7:30I think that having access
- 7:32to the food that you need,
- 7:35to live a healthy life is a human
- 7:37right.
- 7:38In addition,
- 7:39we've looked at the the data. We look
- 7:42we we watch the televisions. We talk to
- 7:44people.
- 7:45When we don't help people achieve,
- 7:48optimal
- 7:49diet and
- 7:51feeling like they have what they need to
- 7:53be healthy, it manifests itself in other ways.
- 7:58So more chronic disease, for example,
- 8:01food insecurity, believe it or not, is tied
- 8:03to obesity. It is not the primary driver,
- 8:06but it is a factor. Because when you
- 8:09have
- 8:10small amounts of income and you're trying to
- 8:12preserve your ability to feed yourself and feed
- 8:15your family for months,
- 8:16you often pick low cost items that usually
- 8:19are not the healthiest calories.
- 8:22And so you tend to actually gain weight,
- 8:25unhealthy weight,
- 8:27because you're food insecure.
- 8:29We know that in children who don't have
- 8:31adequate nutrition,
- 8:32they can't concentrate in school, they're fatigued,
- 8:35so their educational
- 8:37progress is compromised.
- 8:39And we know that people who,
- 8:42are food insecure,
- 8:43you know, often can't maintain employment, again, because
- 8:47of fatigue and energy levels and concentration.
- 8:50So
- 8:52it's it it's the the evidence is out
- 8:54there that this is
- 8:56everybody's
- 8:57problem. And if we don't address it as
- 9:00a entire nation,
- 9:01we end up paying the price for it
- 9:04in some way or another.
- 9:06Absolutely.
- 9:07No.
- 9:08Amazing insights, Crystal, that this is just a
- 9:10trickle down effect if you do not address
- 9:12the root of the problem. And in that
- 9:14vein, what are some of the efforts that
- 9:16UPMC is doing to address the root of
- 9:19this issue, to to take on food insecurity
- 9:22in in your communities?
- 9:24So UPMC,
- 9:26has been
- 9:27in the food as, as medicine space for
- 9:30quite some time.
- 9:31We started years ago,
- 9:34with a
- 9:35prescription for wellness program
- 9:38where our primary care providers had the ability
- 9:41to actually write a prescription
- 9:44to patients saying exercise
- 9:46or eat healthy diet or use more fresh
- 9:48vegetables
- 9:49and fruits.
- 9:50And the literature has told
- 9:53us when that type of discussion comes from
- 9:55the physician,
- 9:56the uptake is better. So we have we've
- 9:59been doing programs like that for quite some
- 10:01time, but then in 2019,
- 10:04we launched something called the Center For Social
- 10:07Impact
- 10:07within UPMC,
- 10:09within our another center called the Center For
- 10:11High Value Health Care.
- 10:13And the point there was,
- 10:15why don't we find out and
- 10:18what it takes
- 10:19to do exactly what you asked me? How
- 10:22do we partner with organizations
- 10:24that serve our members
- 10:26with us
- 10:27and see if we pull together, can we
- 10:30really make a dent in some of these
- 10:33issues that are
- 10:35impacting our members. Because, again,
- 10:37we can give them world class medical care,
- 10:39but if we're not taking care of unemployment
- 10:42and food insecurity,
- 10:44those things will will overshadow
- 10:46and collapse
- 10:48all the good that we've done as far
- 10:50as helping folks access,
- 10:52good health care.
- 10:53We've tried to
- 10:55think about our our food
- 10:57program that we're thinking about,
- 11:00called Nourish
- 11:01in 3 major buckets,
- 11:04availability,
- 11:06accessibility,
- 11:07and adequacy.
- 11:09So let me just just talk about that
- 11:11for a minute.
- 11:12Availability.
- 11:13So the distribution
- 11:16and transportation
- 11:17of food. How do we make sure that,
- 11:20our members
- 11:21have the availability to get the food that
- 11:23they need?
- 11:25So accessibility.
- 11:26So reduce the cost burden
- 11:29and then adequacy that the food that they
- 11:31do have access to or we help them
- 11:33get access to
- 11:35is medically and culturally appropriate so they can
- 11:37actually
- 11:38use the food that they've been given.
- 11:41And
- 11:42in the in that vein, we've had some
- 11:45programs that I'd like to just highlight briefly.
- 11:48So for the availability
- 11:50in our, community health choices program, for example,
- 11:54we provide home delivered
- 11:56meals.
- 11:57So folks who have physical impairments, need personal
- 12:00attendants in the home, they often can't cook,
- 12:04or they may be able to manage with
- 12:07some supports,
- 12:08but around mealtime in the evenings or things
- 12:10like that, it's a problem. So we
- 12:12actually partner with, meal delivery,
- 12:15providers
- 12:16and provide home delivered meals for those members.
- 12:19And it it makes all the difference in
- 12:20the world, and we can ensure those deliveries
- 12:23are on a consistent time basis. So, again,
- 12:26the person now knows
- 12:28food is going to come on a certain
- 12:30day. I know how much food I will
- 12:31have. I know how to store it. It
- 12:34just requires me to heat it up. So
- 12:35you're taking away the anxiety
- 12:37and you make sure that they have access
- 12:39to nutrition.
- 12:41For the accessibility
- 12:42to reduce
- 12:43costs of accessing some of this food.
- 12:46We have, a healthy shop healthy card that
- 12:49we give for our special needs members,
- 12:52which is a a $500
- 12:54annual allowance to
- 12:56use for healthy food and over the counter
- 12:59products that might support,
- 13:01health and nutrition.
- 13:02We have a UPMC neighborhood
- 13:05center,
- 13:06which is a,
- 13:08an actual physical location that we opened up
- 13:10in East East Liberty section of the city,
- 13:14that it's for the entire,
- 13:16neighborhood.
- 13:17It serves our members, but it also serves
- 13:19all members of the community.
- 13:20And that is a one stop shop for
- 13:23all things,
- 13:24that impact on the social determinants of health.
- 13:27So within that building, we have a food
- 13:29pantry,
- 13:30and people can come and get actually get
- 13:32food bags of food and leave.
- 13:34We have,
- 13:35folks that can help register people or enroll
- 13:39people in the supplemental
- 13:41nutrition assistance program or SNAP. Used to be
- 13:43called food stamps. So we have individuals there
- 13:46every day that can help people enroll and
- 13:49things like that. So that's another example of
- 13:52how we're trying to improve accessibility.
- 13:54And we also partner with community based organizations
- 13:58that provide community health workers that actually go
- 14:02out into the community. So everybody doesn't have
- 14:04to come to us.
- 14:06We actually go out into the community and
- 14:08help talk to people about
- 14:10SNAP and things like that and help them
- 14:12enroll so they can get these additional dollars
- 14:15each month. It's not a huge sum, but
- 14:17it's it's really important it can make a
- 14:19difference or make a bridge in adequate food
- 14:22for a month. And then for the adequacy
- 14:25so, again, this is making sure that
- 14:28the food that you get is appropriate for
- 14:30your health conditions, is appropriate culturally.
- 14:33We do something called medically tailored meals. We
- 14:36have organizations,
- 14:38food vendors
- 14:39that have nutritionists on board, design healthy meals
- 14:42that can be delivered,
- 14:44across the entire country if necessary,
- 14:47or
- 14:48our members who have food sensitive conditions. So
- 14:51some with kidney disease or some with heart
- 14:54failure where salt and,
- 14:56sugar and and and electrolytes have to be
- 14:59monitored carefully to keep people in, in in
- 15:02the best control that we can.
- 15:04We have and we have many more programs,
- 15:06Jacob, but that's just an example
- 15:09of some of the types of programs and
- 15:11and where we're trying to target our efforts
- 15:15to meet the needs, of food as medicine,
- 15:18for our members.
- 15:20Wow. I mean, clearly so much innovative and
- 15:23impactful
- 15:24work going on across the UPMC enterprise. So
- 15:27I really do appreciate you giving us an
- 15:29overview of that, Crystal.
- 15:30Before we go, what else are we missing?
- 15:33Any final thoughts you wanna offer or bits
- 15:35of advice you'd like to share while you
- 15:38have the attention of a lot of health
- 15:39plan leaders from all over the country?
- 15:42Well, we're really excited, Jacob,
- 15:44because our governor and our secretary of health,
- 15:48doctor Valerie Arcush,
- 15:50were trying to
- 15:51kick off additional
- 15:53services,
- 15:54through state funding
- 15:56to do things like help people reenter when
- 15:59they've been incarcerated,
- 16:01to expand the coverage of children continuously until
- 16:05the age of 6, insurance coverage,
- 16:08but also in this new group of offerings
- 16:11that the governor and the secretary are trying
- 16:14to get off the ground
- 16:16is medically tailored meals for for folks who
- 16:18have serious medical serious mental illness.
- 16:22That's a huge, huge thing.
- 16:25We know,
- 16:26that in addition to housing and medical care,
- 16:29again,
- 16:30helping people with serious mental illness
- 16:33maintain adequate nutrition, some stability there
- 16:37can really make a difference in their recovery
- 16:39or at least their sustained,
- 16:41recovery. So we're pretty excited that Pennsylvania
- 16:45and our leaders are really pushing forward with
- 16:48important projects like this.
- 16:50Absolutely. It sounds like a lot of really
- 16:52amazing
- 16:53things on the horizon.
- 16:54Doctor Clark, thank you so much for taking
- 16:57the time to be with us and for
- 16:59sharing your insights and impactful work with our
- 17:02listeners. We truly appreciate it. Thank you, Jacob.
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