Latest / THE DAILY BRIEF / Stellantis discusses building Chinese EVs at Ont. plant
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Reports say automaker Stilantis is looking at building Chinese electric
- 0:04Speaker 1: vehicles at a Brampton plant. The idea is getting criticism
- 0:08Speaker 1: from Ontario Premier Doug Ford and the union president Greg
- 0:11Speaker 1: Ross has more.
- 0:14Speaker 2: This assembly plant in Brampton is currently vacant. It's owned
- 0:17Speaker 2: by the Stalantis Corporation. As first reported by Bloomberg, the
- 0:21Speaker 2: company is discussing options with a partner in China to
- 0:24Speaker 2: start assembling Chinese leap motor evs here.
- 0:27Speaker 3: It's completely unacceptable for our plant.
- 0:29Speaker 4: That's not the answer.
- 0:30Speaker 2: Bido Biato is the president of Unifour Local twelve eighty five,
- 0:34Speaker 2: which represents thousands of autoworkers at this plant who are
- 0:37Speaker 2: currently out of a job. He says the option Stilantis
- 0:41Speaker 2: is reportedly considering would essentially mean bringing parts and vehicles,
- 0:45Speaker 2: mostly manufactured in China here to this plant to be completed.
- 0:49Speaker 4: It's a small.
- 0:50Speaker 3: Fraction of what we normally do. It's a small fraction
- 0:53Speaker 3: of what our on the auto industry has done for
- 0:55Speaker 3: over one hundred years.
- 0:56Speaker 2: He says. Thousands of workers would permanently be out of
- 0:59Speaker 2: a job. The union says it wouldn't only be the
- 1:02Speaker 2: thousands of workers that they represent here at this plant
- 1:05Speaker 2: in Brampton that would be impacted by an agreement like this.
- 1:09Speaker 3: We're talking about a parts supplier base that would be decimated.
- 1:13Speaker 3: We're talking about no paint shop. We're talking about no
- 1:15Speaker 3: body shop, We're talking about no trades.
- 1:17Speaker 2: The federal government gave Stilantis hundreds of millions of dollars
- 1:20Speaker 2: to retool this building with plans to start assembling Chrysler's
- 1:23Speaker 2: Jeep Compass here. That plan changed when the US government
- 1:27Speaker 2: began imposing tariffs on Canadian made vehicles last year. Stilantis
- 1:32Speaker 2: has since moved the assembly of the Jeep Compass to
- 1:34Speaker 2: a plant in Illinois. We have a commitment with the company.
- 1:37Speaker 3: We got a negotiated deal with the company that we
- 1:40Speaker 3: both agreed upon, and that's what we're going to continue
- 1:43Speaker 3: to push. And they have the same commitments with the
- 1:44Speaker 3: provincial federal government. This proposal or this plan is a
- 1:49Speaker 3: far cry from that.
- 1:50Speaker 2: In an agreement with the federal government, Stilantis is obligated
- 1:53Speaker 2: to keep the assembly plant in Brampton open until twenty
- 1:56Speaker 2: thirty five. A representative from the automaker told CBC they
- 2:00Speaker 2: are actively evaluating future programs for Brampton, with the objective
- 2:04Speaker 2: to ensure that any investment decision is sustainable and a
- 2:08Speaker 2: long term commitment that supports workers and suppliers. Greg Ross,
- 2:13Speaker 2: CBC News, Brampton.
- 2:16Speaker 1: Let's get some reaction now from someone who works at
- 2:19Speaker 1: the plant. Veto Biato is president of Unifour Local one
- 2:24Speaker 1: two eighty five. That's the plant that represents workers at
- 2:28Speaker 1: the Stillantes factory in Brampton. Veto, good to have you
- 2:31Speaker 1: on the show.
- 2:33Speaker 4: Thank you very much, happy to be here. Thank you.
- 2:36Speaker 1: So when you when you read these headlines and you
- 2:39Speaker 1: heard Premier Ford talking about this and he's upset, your
- 2:43Speaker 1: union is calling this grave concern or at least you
- 2:46Speaker 1: have grave concerns.
- 2:47Speaker 3: Why so when you look at this article and this
- 2:53Speaker 3: Kating proposal that everyone's talking about, it doesn't add up
- 2:58Speaker 3: to what we're used to doing. Our Brampton Assembi plant
- 3:02Speaker 3: has three thousand members and thousands of more in the
- 3:04Speaker 3: parts supplier base. This Kating proposal would only employ two
- 3:09Speaker 3: three hundred people. And at the same time, when you
- 3:12Speaker 3: look at what we do as far as our auto
- 3:14Speaker 3: industry concerned and our Brampton as Sembi plant, there would
- 3:17Speaker 3: be no body shop there would be no stamping facility.
- 3:20Speaker 3: We wouldn't be painting anything, we wouldn't be welding anything.
- 3:24Speaker 3: There would be no trades, the parts, the flier base
- 3:26Speaker 3: would be gone, even the dealerships would be affected. So
- 3:29Speaker 3: this would decimate our auto industry and estimate how we
- 3:32Speaker 3: do business out of the Brampton semiplant. And that's not
- 3:35Speaker 3: a good thing. It's unacceptable and definitely have grave concern.
- 3:38Speaker 3: This is not something that any government should be looking
- 3:41Speaker 3: at or approving or thinking that it's a good idea.
- 3:45Speaker 1: YEA important to say this is based on an articles.
- 3:49Speaker 1: The details are not fleshed out in any way at
- 3:51Speaker 1: this point though, as I point out, you know it
- 3:53Speaker 1: is already getting political reactions, So you and others are
- 3:57Speaker 1: taking very seriously the idea that this is even a
- 3:59Speaker 1: conversation that is happening. You talk about you would anticipate
- 4:03Speaker 1: based on what you've read this employing only two to
- 4:06Speaker 1: three hundred people. Talk to me about how many people
- 4:09Speaker 1: are waiting to get back to work.
- 4:12Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I said, our Brampton is semiplan employees three
- 4:15Speaker 3: thousand people. We've been idle since the end of twenty
- 4:20Speaker 3: twenty three. We have been very successful in our time
- 4:24Speaker 3: at Brampton. We are the bedrock of that community. Every
- 4:27Speaker 3: model that we've built has done well. We finished off
- 4:31Speaker 3: building our muscle cars the Challenger Charger in three hundred
- 4:35Speaker 3: and for the past twenty nine months now, we've been
- 4:38Speaker 3: waiting to get back to work. Our members are concerned,
- 4:41Speaker 3: our members are worried. Our members want to get back
- 4:44Speaker 3: to work and do what we do best in build cars.
- 4:47Speaker 3: And that's three thousand members and we're ready to go.
- 4:50Speaker 3: I mean, we've been idle for this long. Our plants
- 4:53Speaker 3: has been retooling for the Jeep Compass and that's what
- 4:55Speaker 3: we're going to push the company to get us back
- 4:58Speaker 3: to because that's what we negotiate it not only with
- 5:01Speaker 3: us the union, but also with the provincial and federal governments.
- 5:04Speaker 4: So we're ready to go. We've got robots to stamp
- 5:07Speaker 4: for the ground.
- 5:08Speaker 3: We got the stuff ready and when we talk about
- 5:11Speaker 3: building cars, that's what we want to do and know how.
- 5:12Speaker 4: We do that and we do it well.
- 5:14Speaker 3: So if we want to build cars, we can do
- 5:16Speaker 3: it right now and we should get to do that
- 5:19Speaker 3: and never mind this kidding stuff.
- 5:22Speaker 1: Yeah, so plan kit assembly. I just want to make
- 5:25Speaker 1: sure that that is well defined here we're talking about
- 5:27Speaker 1: parts being made elsewhere, comes in like a kit, and
- 5:31Speaker 1: someone in Canada is then if this were to be
- 5:34Speaker 1: the case, just puts it together. From your standpoint, and
- 5:38Speaker 1: I think I know the answer here. But quality wise,
- 5:42Speaker 1: do you feel like a car can be built at
- 5:46Speaker 1: a high quality level if it is done that way?
- 5:50Speaker 3: Listen, we can build high quality cars the way you've
- 5:52Speaker 3: been doing it for over one hundred years and the
- 5:54Speaker 3: way Brampton's been doing it. This proposal, in this system
- 5:58Speaker 3: destimates our industry estimates, our supplier base estimates, our members
- 6:02Speaker 3: in the plant, won't allow us the stamp cars, won't
- 6:05Speaker 3: allow us to paint cars, wealth cars, you name it.
- 6:07Speaker 4: Our skill trades.
- 6:09Speaker 3: It takes away from workers, and it takes away what
- 6:12Speaker 3: we do best, and that's built cars. This proposal doesn't
- 6:15Speaker 3: do any of that. Yeah, it only imports two threaded members.
- 6:18Speaker 3: And it's like an Ikea system where you know, you
- 6:20Speaker 3: get a box and you put stuff together like a table.
- 6:22Speaker 3: That's what the system is all about. And we can't
- 6:25Speaker 3: do that. It's unacceptable, right and so.
- 6:27Speaker 1: But on consumer point of view, what I'm asking is
- 6:31Speaker 1: is the car of equal quality I.
- 6:36Speaker 3: Would say that if it's built here, it would be
- 6:38Speaker 3: of good quality when it comes from you know, overseas.
- 6:42Speaker 4: There's definitely some questions there.
- 6:43Speaker 3: But when you look at you know, what we want
- 6:46Speaker 3: to do here and what we've been doing here. I mean,
- 6:47Speaker 3: the government's got some work to do when you look
- 6:50Speaker 3: at their auto strategy. We want to make sure that
- 6:53Speaker 3: if we sell here, you build here, and we want
- 6:55Speaker 3: to make sure that the governments are looking at you know,
- 6:58Speaker 3: stilanthus a, GM, Honda, Toyota. These are the companies that
- 7:04Speaker 3: build here and sell here, and we need government to
- 7:07Speaker 3: protect those companies because when they protect those companies, they're
- 7:09Speaker 3: protecting us workers and making sure that we do what
- 7:12Speaker 3: we do best in build the cars. And that's what's
- 7:14Speaker 3: got to be at the forefront of this auto strategy
- 7:16Speaker 3: is workers and the easy slogan of if you sell here,
- 7:20Speaker 3: you got to build here.
- 7:22Speaker 1: Right. Take your point, What would you say to someone
- 7:25Speaker 1: who says this is how things are going. Solantis is
- 7:29Speaker 1: a company that is looking to profit and if they
- 7:33Speaker 1: feel like this is the less the more profitable way
- 7:36Speaker 1: for them to go, that that's how industry works. What's
- 7:41Speaker 1: your response to that.
- 7:43Speaker 3: My response to that would be this when we were
- 7:45Speaker 3: building cars in Brampton, and we stop building cars at
- 7:48Speaker 3: the end of twenty twenty three.
- 7:50Speaker 4: The company was doing.
- 7:51Speaker 3: Very well, very very well, and making some good money,
- 7:54Speaker 3: has some good market share and profits for coming out
- 7:57Speaker 3: of the Brampton a semi plint like you wouldn't believe.
- 8:00Speaker 3: And now since then and since our Brampton, Brampton semi
- 8:03Speaker 3: plant hasn't been building cars, the company is taking a hit.
- 8:06Speaker 4: The company the market share is taking a hit, their
- 8:08Speaker 4: stock is taking hits.
- 8:09Speaker 3: So I would say, we can build quality and we
- 8:12Speaker 3: can make money for the company if we just get
- 8:14Speaker 3: back to work and do what we do best and
- 8:16Speaker 3: build cars.
- 8:18Speaker 1: Fido Biato is president of Unifor Local one two eight five.
- 8:21Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you very much.