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Episode 162: 14 Clippers Fans vs Pablo Torre · Play 4 Keeps Podcast

• Jax: they fined Steve Ballmer 30 million dollars. Steve Ballmer is suspended from all league and team activities for one year. President of basketball operations, Lawrence Frank, has been suspended six months without pay. Gillian Zucker, who is another employee of the Clippers, She was suspended without pay for one year. And the Clippers will also be under a monitoring program overseen by the league for five years. Greg: Mm. He's done miracles on me. Welcome back to another episode of the Play for Keys podcast. The only podcast where we do something different every single day. Not an hour, not an episode. This is a daily thing. The gunshots is back, my nigga. Jax: Mm-hmm. Greg: Whole lot of Do you think it's wise for you to keep talking? Whole lot of. Correct. Come on now. We we got we got it all. Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: Whole lot of whole whole lot of come on. Come on. I don't even know what else I got on here. Whole lot of come on now. He's pushing all the buttons, getting this shit all out the way. this is the podcast for casuals. If you are a casual, this is the show for you, Jax. We have a lot to talk about today. And I feel Jax: Okay. Greg: like it all happened today. I feel like like Jax: Honestly like when like the past few days, bro Greg: I feel like 85% of the stuff we're talking about happened today. Report. Another report. Another thing. I said, shit, more topics. We Jax: Yeah. Greg: out here editing the shit at the same time. Like, whoa. It's a lot of things. It's a lot. Hold on. so before we get into those things, you know we have to do the drill. Donations. Donations. Here comes the money. Tap in with us. Dana be saying some shit like fifteen cent a day, five dollars. Some you be saying some shit. Jax: But it's hard. It's low key hard. I don't know. Greg: It is hard. I'm not gonna steal it. damn. That's the I forgot I forgot to add that sound. My my four Dana. I forgot to put the life changer back on here. It's gonna it give me give me give me another pod. Give me give me get give me another pod. I got you. I got you. That's a little too exciting. Man, but let's go ahead and just start with the we do not care. We do not cares that didn't make our final list, but it's something notable. to talk about first things first. College football is finally back. we had two games in particular, Colorado versus Georgia Tech. We'll start with that one just briefly. I ain't gonna lie to you. just it that game gave me that urge. I'm not even gonna s I'm not even gonna say that these niggas was gonna be like a good team or Jax: They won't. Greg: like a great team or like whatever. But I do find myself having random days where I will be staying up to watch the end of that game. Throughout that season, I feel like it's not gonna be the same as like the Shadur thing. But I'm entertained a little bit more than I was last year for sure. I will say that we we will be watching more. Jax: I'm gonna just throw a game. If it's on and I ain't got nothing else to watch. I was just putting that's the type of time. 'Cause that's what I did with the last game. It was it ended well. Greg: Them niggas on the West Coast. Yeah, it's on the West Coast. Their games Jax: Yeah. Greg: are gonna be the last ones to play most of the time. You know what I mean? These are my Denver Nuggets. They will just be thrown on just because I miss football. But all I'm saying is, all it's gonna take is two back-to-back wins in a row for me to say, hey, I'm gonna watch y'all some more. I'm gonna watch. Do I believe? Fuck no. I'm here for vibes though. Also, Julian, Juju Lewis. Tighten up, nigga. Tighten up, my nigga. I'ma give him grace. I feel like he just turned he I I didn't know he I didn't know he just turned eighteen. I'm like, damn, this nigga been here for a little minute. So he was on the choir when he was seventeen? These niggas starting Jax: What who was wasn't there two quarterbacks that was or was that just last season? Like that I don't I don't even give you no color. Greg: Last sea last season last season there was some kid named Salter, but he was like a fifth year senior. So he's up out Jax: Okay, okay. Greg: of there. but I think at that time, Ju Juju, which I didn't know at the time, the nigga was 17. I was like, you 17? Okay, well this this makes a lot more sense. You're like a true 18 year old now. I'll give him Jax: I I'll give I'll give him grace two, I guess. Only eighteen. He Greg: grace, but goddamn, hold on to the fucking ball. God damn. God bless America. the other one, Rutgers versus UMass. after that game, Newsflash UMass tore them niggas up. Allegedly. Didn't even watch the game. I just heard bad things about it. There's too many Jax: That was that was their first win in two years. The snap like Greg: Yes. Jax: a sixteen game losing streak. Greg: Mind you, Rutgers in the Big Ten. Ruckers Rutgers plays in the Big Ten. And on top of that, that was like a money game. They paid they paid you Maz like 1.4 million dollars to play this game. They took 1.4 from you and beat y'all. Jax: And they had a fireworks celebration after it. Cause I I think like the city, I think wherever Rutgers is, I think the city had just planned a fireworks celebration at that time. So it just so happened to go off as UMass was winning that game. So they just really like embarrassed. They took money from y'all, beat y'all, celebrated on y'all home court or home field, like tighten up. Tighten up Rutgers. Greg: I do I do wish college relegated teams more often. I wish that was like a a a thing that was a little bit more frequent. Jax: It's that sh it should be, but it's it's too much it's too much money behind all that. It's too much. Greg: Well, yeah, and plus NCAA ain't got their shit together enough to even add more shit to their play. Of course, we'll have more Jax: Yeah, bro. Greg: to talk about with that, but college football is back, but let's move on to the next thing. Amen Thompson signed five year two hundred and eight million dollars. I guess it's an extension, a rookie rookie extension or whatever the Jax: Yeah. Greg: case may be. Before I say what I'm about to say, a whole lot of outrage. A whole lot of people saying, What the fuck? I saw it all on my TL. my God. Y'all ca y'all gotta be fucking me. We're not. We're not at all. But Jack's your reaction. Jax: Initially I thought it said two hundred and eighty million dollars and I was like, Whoa, that's crazy. But you corrected me and said, Greg: Also Jax: it's only two hundred and eight. And I still said, Whoa, that's crazy. Yes, Ahmed Thompson is good. He's athletic all that. He can dunk. He can, you know, jump from half court to the to the free throw. I don't know, but like he can't shoot, bro. And that's real like that's real like he is very good. It's just the shooting holds him back so much. It just gives me a little pause when I see he's making two hundred million dollars. But I mean I can't I'm not gonna hate on him. I ain't got no problem with that man, but like Whoa, that's a lot of money for men Thompson. Maybe, hopefully for him and for you know you Rockets fan, he outplays his contract, but we we'll see. We'll see. Greg: I think this shit's a fucking steal. I Jax: Oui. Greg: think, I think, I think I I said the same thing when it came to Dylan Brooks' contract when niggas used to fake like they gave a fuck about how much money Dylan Brooks would be making. my god, four years, 80 mil? Overpay. You don't even care, nigga. Why did you even why were you outraged? And second of all, Jax: I mean it's still it's still it's still that does just because he doesn't care doesn't mean he can't call it an overpay. Don't mean he can't say something about it, even though he don't care. Greg: News flash wasn't. It wasn't. Nigga definitely outperformed. Definitely definitely outperformed Jax: yeah, no, it wasn't it wasn't. 'Cause he he played very well. He played very well. Greg: his contract. But I say all this to say this, man. I think people still have a 2016 lens of what NBA contracts are and what and how different they are from an NFL contract. I need people to start looking at, okay. How much percentage, like what's what's the cap percentage? How much percentage is Jax: Yes, maybe. Greg: this cap, nigga, bro? I keep saying, I don't know what's, I don't know what what what what's this outrage of like just looking at a cap percentage? Nigga take up like eight, eighteen percent. Jax: See you getting in the cat you you getting in the cat percentages, man. We do not care, bro. We do not you get in the cat percentages in the mathematics and the empirical data and the come on. Greg: Bro, I'm saying for y'all to n for niggas, for niggas, it's not data. Nigga, it's just, hey, this nigga's like 18% of the cap. Okay, bet. Like, that's not as that's not as bad. Jax: Near it. Greg: Like y'all niggas out here tripping, like, okay, like, and then these are also the same niggas that won't give me an answer when I say, okay, how much do you make? I don't know. That's not my job. Well, okay. Jax: It's not my job. The what? Greg: But I feel like people I feel like for niggas to say it's a overpay, they do have something in their mind that says, Hey, okay, well this seems a little bit more reasonable, but niggas don't want to put a number on it. And that's fine. That's that's fine. Jax: It's just it's just it just feels like seeing that two hundred million dollar buy somebody who you don't think is as good as they should be or as good as like just seeing that two hundred million dollars buy somebody's name, it's like it it feels like there should be like a standard to that. And it's just I don't know. He doesn't fit that in my Greg: Mm-hmm. Jax: eyes. But like I said, hopefully he outplays that contract. You know, I don't he's good, so we'll Greg: For sure. I think, Jax: see. Greg: I think if niggas don't want to go, even though I don't even think it's analytical, if niggas don't want to go miracle, spherical, analytical, diddle, I'll say it like this. By the time this nigga contract kicks in, he'll be anywhere between the 45th and 50th highest paid players in the league. To me, that don't sound groundbreaking to me. You the 50th, the 50th highest. You would top 50, I guess. The way niggas look at 200 mil, they think it's probably a top 10 contract. That nigga don't even sniff top 10. Jason Tatum is making 313 mil. All right. SGA is making about to be making 71 yearly. yes, those niggas are 30 and 40 mil a year higher. And better players than the man Thompson. There there are there are gaps. There are levels. I think people just kind of forget what the highs of the highs look like. Because now this mid tier, you know, now now this like all star level is looking kind of egregious. I get it though. I'm just I'm just here to say it it's not as bad as y'all niggas. Dang it, that's okay. We do not care. Jax: Amen. I'm just you sound you sound like somebody that cared. That's all I gotta say about that. You sound like you sounded like you cared. Greg: I don't care but I guess for me, I care about how outraged niggas was about it. I didn't think niggas was gonna care like this. I didn't know niggas was like, my God, what the fuck? I thought it was like, okay, this this seems like pretty in line with everything else. I didn't think I didn't know. I didn't know. But I I like I get it. Is is you look at that number and nigga we haven't adjusted our eyes to it. I get it. I get it. You you got Deshaun Watson making two hundred and thirty guaranteed. I get it. I get the fears. Next, we do not care. Ben Simmons is back in the NBA. Vetman, three point five mil. Jack's your reaction. Jax: mean, he got picked up by the Kings. The Kings if it like I'm not even I'm not even joking when I say this, but it sounds like the King needed somebody to fill in that Russell Westbrook spot. And they're like, okay, let's get a Ben Simmons 'cause, you know, he's gonna or the idea of Ben Simmons at least, you know, he can get rebounds, assists, handle the ball, push the ball to the court, things like that. Like the the Russell Westbrook thing. Although he's obviously not as good as Russell Westbrook, but like still that's what that's what it feels like they did. It's a Kings so it won't work 'cause like I said, it's the Kings. But hey, shout out to Ben Simmons. He's trying to get that what tenth year of service so he can get his benefits in the NBA. Like I'm not mad at it. Not mad at it at all. Greg: You know, he just won a a a fishing contest, I think, last year. Jax: They're making bread from those too. Pro not NBA Greg: Yeah, you'd be Jax: bread, of course, 'cause but Ben Timmins don't need NBA bread. He made like probably made like two hundred million his career maybe. Cause he signed some crazy transactions. Yeah. Greg: Shit. If not if not more, yeah, probably. Who knows? So yeah, I mean, I hope Ben Simmons is rejuvenated. I hope he's healthy, rejuvenated. Jax: I hope he's healthy. Yeah. Greg: I know back injuries suck. I still think about Michael Porter Jr. and how much that nigga was robbed, even though he's still hooping. But like, if that nigga just came in perfectly help, Jax: He could have been that much better. Greg: yeah, you could have been the face of the league the way that nigga was coming out here. But Jax: No, he talked to us for that. He he talked to us for Greg: I mean we say the same thing about Anthony Edwards. We pick and choose who we like. Jax: But it doesn't say as much as Michael Ant doesn't say as much as Michael Board Jane. Michael Board has a podcast. Anthony or his comments just get clipped up randomly. Like when he pops up and says something, it just happens to get clipped up. But Michael Board, he's he's talking weekly and saying terrible things weekly. And then also going on live stream with these people and saying even worse things. So Greg: It's not even worse. It's not what you say. It's how you say it. It's delivery. We respect Jax: Yeah. Greg: his delivery more. That nigga said send the video and queer ass niggas. He right he neck and neck with some of these niggas. We it's just it's just a Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: diff it's just a different delivery. Jax: That's fair. Greg: And and and you know, light skinned niggas, they just tend to be a little bit more cringe to begin with. They just tend to be a little bit more cringe, and we still don't fuck with Jonte. There's some more, there's some more outer things. There's there's there's layers to that nigga MPJ. But that's okay. Because we don't give a fuck. Next thing up Mark Sanchez pleads guilty. after a stabbing incident that happened I think I think it was la last year. Jax: Yeah. Greg: Not like a full calendar year, but like it w we were in the football season when this happened because that nigga was supposed to be like Jax: Okay, okay. Greg: commentator or something. Maybe it was during the playoffs. Maybe it was during the playoffs from the yeah. Jax: Yeah, I think it might have been no, no, you was right. It was October of last year. Dang, almost a Greg: Okay. Okay bet. Jax: year for real. Greg: Shit. Sh fuck. Okay. So yeah, that happened. for people that don't rem Jax: He hasn't been sentenced just yet, but yeah, what are you gonna say, my fault? Greg: yeah yeah. I would say for those that don't know or need a refresher, he got into he was drunk, inebriated, whatever, walking the streets, was harassing a a a truck worker that was in his late sixties. They got the tussling. I think he beat that nigga up. and Jax: Yeah. The dude pepper sprayed him, then Mark Sante started beating him up. Then the guy stabbed him. Greg: Yeah, beating them up and then the guy stabbed him and then he ran off Jax: Yeah. Greg: 'cause he was like, Yo, I'm I'm I'm about to die. This is this is a a crazy wound. So yeah. You're gonna have to that nigga was gonna have to pay for hospital bills. He was gonna have to do a a a lot of things. And nigga, you made Jax: I've been seeing. Greg: that sandwich, gang. I don't know what the fuck to tell you. Don't feel bad. this was Hey, and we have you on video walking crazy. Jax: Yeah, so yeah. Greg: You gonha you was gonna have to plead guilty, my nigga. That it it it was looking crazy. So Jax: I still wanna know like what what was he on, like literally, like what drugs, what substances was was he on? Because I think that was like before he had to call a game too, like like Greg: Yeah. Jax: the night before. So I don't even know, man. It's insane. But he pled guilty. Greg: That was bad. Jax: So he hasn't like I said, he hasn't been sentenced yet, so we don't know how long he'll be in prison if he does do prison time, if he gets probation. We don't know. We'll see. But yeah, crazy. Greg: Yeah. He ain't gonna he ain't gonna he ain't gonna do too much. He ain't gonna do too if he's pleading guilty, like voluntarily and not fighting it, yeah, he i it's not gonna be as long as it probably need to be. I'll tell you that much. do you th you think you think he's like done? Like done done? Like w we never gonna see that nigga on on television again? Jax: Depends on how long he's in prison for. Greg: Fairs. You get that, right? There's always it's always opportunities at Barstool, unfortunately. We do not care. Speaking of bar stools, Diana Rossini just signed with them. I'll keep it pushing after that, but just Jax: Of course. Greg: wanted to put that out there. Fall from grace. We do not care. Last but certainly not least, Jacob Fields from TCU, or formerly TCU, finally turned himself in to the police after an assault charge with another TCU player. I'm not gonna fuck up his name. I actually forgot his name. but to that young man, that victim. apparently, based off of his accords too, ain't really have nothing to do with no spit. no spitting was involved, unfortunately. when they asked him, basically he had texted I there was text messages exchanged afterwards to the victim basically saying, Yo, like, you know, you know, this was you know, this is my fault. I I you know, I'm very remorseful. I'm I'm grateful with it, you know. You was getting the best of me in practice. I was like, well, hold on, bitch. All this because you got he got the he got the best Jax: Yeah. Greg: of you in practice. nigga, you might be done. We was trying. We was trying to defend you, nigga. I'm I ain't gonna lie. Jax: I don't know, like if there should be it feels like there should be more. Like just you do all that just because he's whooping you in practice, that I don't know, bro. It just feels Greg: Like Jax: like there should be more. I mean like if we wasn't there, we don't know, maybe there isn't more, but it just Greg: Amen. Jax: feels like like come on. Greg: Yeah. One thing and one thing we have confirm also one thing we have confirmed, definitely did get snuck. Definitely was not a face up fight. everybody from all the courts will say, Hey, you know, niggas was just on their phone and all of a sudden we just saw that nigga swing on them one time. Whoa. A swing and a kick Jax: Swing on him and then start kicking him in the head. Greg: and kicked him in the head. I was like, oof, it's not looking good for you, young man. I'm not gonna Jax: Yeah. Greg: lie to you. This is not this is not good, brother. Not at all. in the midst of this, TCU at first, I think, banned the credentials from Star Telegram, which was like the the the star, whatever, like I guess like the pre Jax: That's the new that's the newspaper. There's a local newspaper in the area. And it which was Greg: Yeah, that Jax: and it was founded by a TCU grad. I I think TCU Stadium Greg: Absolutely. And Jax: is named after the founder of Star Telegram, I believe. Greg: Yeah, and everybody anybody that's, you know, done anything remotely journalistic in Dallas has gone through Star Telegram at one point. I think Clarence Hill, who does like Cowboys work, there's plenty of people that do it. It's is it's a notable and reputable you know, thing. This like no dead spin type shit. This is a real thing. all because they felt like in that initial report, They were, I guess, quote unquote antagonizing the victim. Those were one of the first articles that came out that mentioned some bullying happening in between there. I don't know if they brought up Spit, but I know they brought up bullying and and the coaching staff didn't do anything about it or whatever the case may be, kind of trying to give you a buildup. And not to say the, you know, sources are incorrect or whatever the case may be, but then they made a follow up article about you know, a little bit more in detail. But I think in the Star Telegram's defense, I think their defense was, hey, we didn't name anybody in our article. We didn't name the victim in the article. He just came out on his own socials and said it, and nigga just put two and two together. He didn't have to do that. at, you know, we we tried to protect his identity. He stepped out. So, you know, he kind of made some of that sandwich too, even though nobody should be getting harassed. Nobody should be getting harassed in this situation. So they finally figured it out and now they have their credentials back, like as of today, which is kind of weird. This whole situation's weird. The leadership and everything at TCU, everything's kinda looking funny in the light. but like I said, we really just don't care. And this won't be the last that we see about this 'cause this nigga has court dates. when shit like this happens, i just being dismissed from the team is not enough. We're gonna see more of this as the time goes by, but Jax, how how how we feeling? Jax: Terrible hot I I don't well like I said, we was not there. We don't know exactly everything that happened. I just feel I don't know, man. Pressing charges feels crazy. I'm sorry. I don't care. Press charges feels crazy. It's a hot take. Probably a horrible hot take. But I don't know. Press in charge for a locker room fight feels crazy. Even though that nigga allegedly like snuck him and also kicked him in the head and like that's horrible. But I don't know, bro. It feels pressing charges feels like a lot. But This is why I'm not a college football coach. Greg: God. You're evil. Get him out of here. You you know better than them niggas we talk about. Hey, Jax: Alright. Greg: you hey you the you hey you the reason the shit escalated. Coach he's bullying me. Fight back. Probably Jack's. Jax: Like if it came like if he had walked to the coach but hey this nigga bully me, I would have told him to fight. Like not not sneaking, but just like hey y'all two handle it. Like settle it. Like settle it, bro, so we can move on. It's not that deep, bro. Greg: Somebody hand he handled it. He listened to you. He handled it. He for sure took care of it. This is crazy. These niggas not good enough to be doing stupid shit like this, bro. It's crazy. But now that we got all that stuff out the way, let's go ahead and get into some WNBA basketball before we get into crazier topics. Let's let's start at a at a low heat. WNBA commissioner Kathy Engelberg says she will retire/slash resign at the end of this season. Everybody is saying praise God. Jax: yeah, everybody hates her, so Greg: this is ver it fe it seems very polite. I think it's like the equivalent of of Bill Belichick stepping down. you know, just just a polite way to fire somebody. we I we I think a lot of people, for the most part, saw the writing on the wall that she needed to get the fuck up out of there, but didn't want to you know, fuck with her reputation. In the midst of this, like, you know, do it on your own accord, type shit. I'm not buying that she's doing this on her own accord, but maybe she is. Still don't care. I'm just happy with happening. Jax: Maybe she's maybe she's tired of dealing with everybody. That could also like I don't know. That could also be a thing. Which I mean, hey, if that is, then more power to her. Because no like I said, everybody hated her. Like players did Greg: Yeah. Jax: everybody except Adam Silver, I think, hated her. Greg: If she if she's tired, what what would what do you think was what was what was her breaking point? Jax: All this all this like culture war stuff going on in WNBA. You got Enus Cand. I Enos Cand is actually like trying to sue the sky or whatever because they kicked him out the game Greg: yeah. Jax: and like just I think it's really just stuff like that, bro. I like if I was a commission, I'd I would have gotten tired of all that. Like I'm not I'm not a commission, I'm tired of all of it. So imagine how she feels. Imagine how the players feel as well. So like I said. Good written seconds. Greg: Yeah, you losing your you you damn. Jax: That that was a little harsh. That was little harsh. That was a little harsh. But still, like, you know. Greg: Yeah, she losing years off her life over niggas that don't give a fuck about it for real. She's probably close to retirement age anyway. I'm pretty sure you got kids and a family. You got bread. Live your life live live your life out, man. That's okay. I wonder who I wonder who would be like the next person. Jax: There was like literally when I was pulling up Twitter to like find us or whatever, they they had like the betting odds for the next WNBA commissioner. The number Greg: wow. Jax: one leader in betting odds. What get guess a name. Just guess. Greg: probably a WNBA player like Anekka or some shit like that. Jax: They said Michelle Obama. She's the betting favorite. Greg: Dare I say I'm not mad? Jax: I am 'cause what the Greg: I'm not mad at that. Jax: f like, I like like I like what the Kanye said, I Lady Gaga. What what the fuck does she know about K I like Michelle Obama. What the fuck does she know about the WNBA? Like Greg: What the fuck does Kathy know about the WNBA? Obviously. Exactly. Jax: Nothing. So putting just 'cause Michelle Obama's black doesn't make it better. Like Greg: Who s who said anything about black? Jax: 'Cause people would like people you that's why people like me sell up. Greg: What what it make it right about what it makes it about race? You Jax: All right, bro. All right, bro. Greg: know how the white people be like, here y'all go with the race card. Y'all. Jax: It just be like if she doesn't know if you say Kathy didn't know anything and you say Michelle didn't know anything, it'd just be putting a black version of Kathy Engelberg. Just people be nice to her 'cause they like Michelle Obama more. Greg: That's disrespectful to Michelle Obama. Jax: I'm just saying. I don't know her acumen as far as WMBA commit commissioning, so. Greg: Her husband Hooper her husband was a hooper, man. I saw that jump shot. Jax: Okay. Alright, bro. Man, let's let's talk. Greg: Okay, w well okay, well like who like who was second though? Like was there like anybody but Jax: I d I I think I don't know who was second, but I remember I don't like I said I didn't have it pulled up all the way. So I know one of the names they're talking about was Swin Cash and there were like other retired players as well that was in there. But like I said, I don't remember off Swin Cash is the only name I can think of seeing on there, but there was other retired players. I just don't know who they were. Or I don't remember. Greg: Yeah, I'm not I'm not mad at sh look, I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm not mad at Michelle, bro. That shit sound it go hard. Jax: Alright, let's let's get let's get to some real news. Greg: I did that was real news, I ain't gonna lie. We've been we've been praying for that one. but let's go ahead and get into some basketball. I almost said something crazy. My bad. My fault. I can't say that. They're gonna attack me. Yeah, let's go ahead and get some to some men's basketball. N B A. Jax: Adam Silver finally did it, Greg. He he dropped his nuts. He he he did a good job finally. Greg: We bullied him. Jax: Success bo bo hashtag bullying works. That is a message Greg: That's where the jiggle feels. Jax: in all this. Now, if you do not know or you have been living under a rock, we've talked about this Kawhi situation at length. And now officially the NBA has ruled that the Clippers circumvented the salary cap involving Kawhi Leonard. And because of that, they've gave the franchise, I guess, the largest punishment outside of like taking a team, the largest punishment of any sports owner. in like American history and so the full the full list of things they did. The Clippers now have to forfeit five first round picks in twenty twenty nine, twenty thirty, twenty thirty one, twenty thirty two, and twenty twenty three. They've been fined thirty million dollars, which is the largest fine any owners had to pay for the NBA. I think the the most recent Large fine I could think of was Donald Sterling not Donald wasn't it Donald Sterling with the clip or also with the clip Donald Sterling, right? Yeah. Greg: Yeah, it was it was Don it was Don's Donna. Mm-hmm. Jax: He got fined two and a half million dollars. And they took the team, but that was like the last biggest fine. So like I said, they fined Steve Ballmer 30 million dollars. Steve Ballmer is suspended from all league and team activities for one year. President of basketball operations, Lawrence Frank, has been suspended six months without pay. Gillian Zucker, who is another employee of the Clippers, I don't remember her title exactly. She was suspended without pay for one year. Kawhi was fined seven hundred thousand dollars. The largest fine that's normally allowed under the CBA is three hundred fifty thousand dollars. So he got double that. Dennis Robertson Kawhi's uncle and also former agent. He's been banned from all NBA teams and activities and affiliates for the next five years. And the Clippers will also be under a monitoring program overseen by the league for five years. Damn, to say the least. Greg: Damn. Damn. Mm. He's done miracles on me. Now I was trying to gather my words because I was stuttered in my mind about what I was about to say. But let me first say what I when I got this report at first, I called Jack say BD, I FaceTime this nigga. And I normally don't FaceTime this nigga often, but when I do, nigga, he ain't answered. I think, you know, and I know why afterwards, but he called me back. I say, damn, bro. We gotta put something on the grill. They finally got my nigga, bro. The first thing that nigga said, Jax: Ha ha Greg: hey, they got Mitch. I say, no, that's not that. Wait, wait, wait, nigga. Wait. Nigga here talking about Mitch McConnell. No. Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: We still, we still waiting, unfortunately. But as far as this punishment, this shit feels like What's that what's that Atlanta Hawke what the Atlanta Falcons defensive player, Pierce? Jax: Jan Pierce. Greg: I feel, especially as I ma allowed this stuff to marinate, I feel the exact same way that I felt about James Pierce's punishment. Very surprised that we got this kind of punishment. Me personally would have gave him more. Me personally, what he said, what? Jax: Okay, what would you have what what do what do what were you thinking as far as more? What do you think? Greg: Like even more for Balmer. Jax: a bigger fine. Greg: Nah, like even like a like a more more suspension. I wouldn't say I wouldn't go as far as like selling the team or nothing like that. But he need to really like not to say that he's not gonna really feel this. He really needs to feel this because he's playing in my fucking face. Like he he not Jax: He did. Greg: even like he trying, he loop even to this day, right now, he trying to loophole some shit. He still like Jax: Actually let's let's get it let's get into that a little bit more because we talk or Greg: Yeah. Jax: I just laid out all the penalties, but like this whole thing was an investigation by the NBA. They had a independent or quote unquote independent law firm come in and do all the research and they found that one like what's his name? Steve Barmer, he tried to act like, this was just I got scammed with this whole aspiration thing and I didn't know about this, yada yada yada. Anyway, the investigation which The NBA tried to have it be like a softball investigation. They tried to do, they were really trying to do them a favor, but they just found so much stuff that the Greg: On guard. That was bad. Jax: Clippers were doing against the rules. And they found out that, yes, the Clippers did this and they knew about it 100% the entire time. And they were just lying completely the whole time. There were deals with Aspiration, which we talked about. Daktronics, which was the scoreboard company that we talked about. also Buengo Wireless, who happens to be the wireless provider of the Clippers Arena. and then also a a law firm, I believe, what's it called? Lock Locked In? I have it right. Yeah, Locked In or not Lock, but an insurance company, Locked Insurance. So they found deals with all of those companies. And in fact, Kawhi was actually getting close to and maybe more than 66 million dollars off of the books. Greg: Absolutely. Jax: So he was making that much money, and still Steve Bomber was like, No, this is all wrong. This is I'm telling the truth. And they ended up finding out that Zucker, her name, Jillian Zucker, she was another like as an employee of the Clippers. And she was one of the people who was sort of impeding that investigation. She was lying to the investigators Greg: Yes. Jax: involved. That's why she ended up also getting a year's suspension. And Lawrence Frank, he only got a six month suspension because he snitched. Greg: Mm, real the real Pablo Torre, nigga. Jax: Yeah, he sniffed. They they they pulled up on him. He was like, You know what? I got everything and I also got written down for you 'cause he was taking notes about this whole thing. So he had he he handed the investigators over, like literally handed them the books for all of this. So that's why he only got to spend it six months. Greg: Yeah, I it with everything, because the way we thought about it, Jax: Excuse me. Greg: I think this would have been an appropriate punishment if it was just aspirations. If you're telling me that aspirations was the only thing or the only deal that y'all were circumventing from, I think, okay, the five first round picks, the heavy ass fine, X, Y, and Z, and for Balma to be suspended one year, okay, bet, cool. But the fact that I found out that you were circumventing the cat back in twenty fifteen with DeAndre Jordan and you got a verbal warning about that. And then in twenty nineteen they had to investigate your ass just in case because shit was getting a little fishy again. You've already shown me low key that you've been a repeat offender. And instead of learning from you know the you know Jax: And you show me that you know the rules. You know you cannot do this. Greg: the rules. Jax: And we've told you not to we've explicitly told you explicitly to not do this. We say you do not do this. Greg: You because you bought the team or you acquired the team in 2014. In 2015, you was already on bullshit. You didn't wait, you didn't Jax: Instantly almost. Greg: wait a calendar year. And we let your ass slide. Jax: He didn't think about a rule at all. Greg: And Adam Silver probably gave you some fucking sympathy because nigga, I just got done banning the last clippers owner. You're Jax: Yeah. Greg: the new one, and it would look crazy for me. To go crazy on you one year into your tenure. So I'ma let you rock, just say, hey, don't let it happen again. Instead, what you decide to do was try to be a more creative criminal. Jax, we talk about it all the time. There's no such thing as a good billionaire. There's no such thing as a good billionaire, nigga. They always gonna it takes a lot of of stuff beyond just hard work to get to a billion dollars, my nigga. So The fact that you did not only one company, four companies, in my mind, I'm like, yeah, aspirate whatever you whatever the punishment is, times four for me. Two, three, four. Per Jax: No, that's crazy. Greg: like, yo, and if you need to be suspen one year, one year's not enough for the suspension. Give me give me three years. Give me four years, nigga. It's either Jax: That's crazy. Greg: that either that or like I said, I don't I don't wanna give you I don't want to have to sell the team. No. nah, that's not No. Nah, that that's to me. Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's too far. But I need Jax: Yeah, I don't think I don't think he should he should have to give away the team. I only think you should give away the team if you like do something like actually faculty like racist or homophobic or like any like crazy allegation like that. That's the only way you should sell the team. Greg: Yeah, but I need niggas to feel this. I I I need motherfuckers to feel this besides just the organization. Because in my mind, I still feel like Balmer didn't really get a full Like real, like he not gonna feel this punishment the way I need that nigga to feel the punishment. He might feel it. Jax: I think he will though. Balmer, like we've talked about this. Like Balmer, he's a diehard sports Greg: You don't know how I feel. Jax: fan. That's why he was doing this. I feel like this will being banned for the year. That's going, I think that's gonna piss like that'll piss me off. Cause like nigga, this is my building. I can't even go in. Like that'll piss me off. Greg: Yeah. Jax: So there's that. So like that would p but I think the five first-round draft pick, that's gonna cause him more pain. I feel like because just like, damn, we suck, we have no real pathway to winning, we don't got no stars. We drafted Keen Waggler, who maybe he did. We don't really know for real. He wasn't he was a eye in Greg: That's helpful. Jax: the summer league. And then we also have five years. We can't get nothing. I think they were talk I think they said like the the player they'd be able to draft in I think twenty thirty-four, I believe they said, he's only like he'd be like eleven years old or something like that right now. So it's just Greg: Right. Now I I will and I and I'll say another thing. I think the reason why this punishment is probably still good enough for me, although I would like I said, like I I don't want people I don't want people to get misconstrued. I fuck with the punishment. I'm just telling you what I would have per this why I can't be no fucking commissioner. Jax: Commission. Greg: Cause I I'd go crazy. But I'm okay with what they did because I'm surprised they did this much. But when it comes to when when when it comes to like the Steve Balmer of it all and stuff, I think the main reason why I still feel good about this is the fact that these niggas sucked regardless of the salary circumvention or not. Just bad luck has been happening ever since. And they still didn't sniff a championship. So it's like, okay, like. You suffered through the you you would think the karma was Kawhi getting injured all these years trying to do illegal shit. You would have thought, okay, that's the karma. The karma is just getting started with losing these five first-round picks in the future. Now, I will say, they like to compare it to the Timberwolves situation that happened like ear in the early 2000s, which ultimately led to Kevin Garnett leaving. Because they just, you know, they was in purgatory for a hot little minute. They lost for Jax: Yeah. Greg: five first round picks. And I think, you know, David Stern ended up giving two of those picks back. But the the Clippers, technically, if if if they got a smart GM, they can figure it out. They're supposed to get two first round picks with the Kawhi trade. If that Kawhi trade still goes through, we'll see how, you know. Jax: I believe it will. I think so. Greg: Barring that it goes well. Okay, you're gonna get two first round picks from there. you should be able to use those wisely. And yeah, you d y they don't start losing first round picks until twenty twenty nine or whatever the case may be. So you can you can fit you can figure it out. Y'all smart, y'all got enough money. Jax: But one thing, cause I do want to get to the Kawhi of it all real fast. But before we get to that, Steve Ballmer, after this whole ruling came out, he made third, I'm going to we're gonna not take this laying down, we're gonna fight this and blah blah blah. But because Greg: That's just Jax: the CBA, the only way that Ballmer can fight back would be if the NBA Players Association had pursued arbitration, meaning if Kawhi had an issue with this and he wanted to like pursue some arbitration. But Kawhi and the Players Association, they're like, you what, we'll just take this, we'll take this L, I'll pay this seven hundred thousand and we'll move on. So because of that, the only legal recourse that Balmer has to fight this is by suing like lit suing the literal MBA. And he's Greg: Crazy. Jax: he's probably I he's not gonna do that 'cause it's when he'd lose cause he's in the wrong in this situation, but and also that's just very time consuming and just way more hassle than it would be to Greg: Well, he he gonna have plenty of time to fight it. He can't do nothing else. He can't he can't be with the Jax: But yeah, I'm he Greg: with the league. Jax: but yeah, he he not gonna do that. But I like I said I want to get to Kawhi at all cause Kawhi, he low-key he won. He just got like 700,000 is a lot of money. But Kawhi has made 375 million dollars on the court in his NBA career. That's not even counting the sixty-six million doll was getting off the court, and also like the shoe deals and all this other stuff he had, all his other endorsements. Greg: Yeah, new balance, all that shit, yeah. Jax: But so he low-key he won in this situation. But Like who should hate Kawhi more? Should it be like Clippers fans or ca or should it be Spurs fans? Cause I know some Spurs fans still hate Kawhi. Really Brandon still hates Kawhi. That's what made me think about this. That's what made me think Greg: Sound like who who hates Jax: about this question. Greg: who in San Antonio still hate that nigga? First of all, if you a Spurs fan, suck it the fuck up, nigga. He won a champ, Jax: Yeah, you have Wimby now. Greg: he won a championship with you any one finals MVP there. The Clippers fans wish they could get that version of fucking Kawhi, Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: my nigga. All that bitch and moaning and complaining, y'all niggas doing. Y'all need to give it Jax: Yeah. Greg: up. And y'all niggas got generational talent now. This is this is exact way I feel when I still see OKC niggas boot KD, even though I don't see it as much anymore. Jax: Yeah, like bro yeah, you you have to get over that. You have to get over that. That was like ten years ago. Greg: You get like come on, bro. Like you have to get over it, nigga. You have SGA, bro. Get the fuck Jax: Yeah. Greg: over it, nigga. Stand up. I don't give a fuck. with Clippers fans, honest, I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't think either or I don't think either or should really be mad at Kawhi. There's plenty of Jax: I mean this whole thing is Kawhi's fault, cause he pulled up on him and like, hey, I'll come sign with y'all if Greg: Man, hell no, it's not. Jax: y'all pay me this extra money. And Steve Balmer was like, Greg: Hell no it's not. Jax: it c no, cause Kawhi and his uncle, he they asked the raptor to do the same shit. They asked the Lego to do the same shit. They both said no. Steve Bomber was the only one stupid enough to say yes. Greg: Yeah. Exactly. Which means it's not I that that's not look, somebody gotta say yes to it. You know what I mean? Somebody if if if Jax: That's fair. Greg: I have if I have a kid and that nigga say some some foul shit on some can can I can I jump off this bridge? And my dumb ass say, Fuck it, why not? Sure, go ahead. Nick and Granted, this nigga's two or three or w three or four, whatever the fuck may be. Look, and I and I open the door to to help that nigga go through, they gonna look at who opened the door? He can say all this other shit. He can say he he wanna do X, Y, and Z. It is still up to B to say yes or no. So the Clippers organization and Steve, y'all should hate them niggas. Cause they should have a backbone to say, hey nigga, who the fuck do you think we are? Now it helps It don't help that the Clippers have always kind of been like this poverty franchise. So y'all was moving like poverty. You know what I mean? Y'all was moving like some fucking losers. Like, okay, we this what we gotta do, cause it it it's hard for us to get this crazy talent. You know what I mean? We gotta do this X, Y, and Z versus I guess like the Lakers. Genie be like, bitch, we the Lakers, nigga. We can get LeBron off the strength. Allegedly. Cause we don't know everybody else's books. But you know what we're talking about. It's like, all right, bro, like, like Come come on, like I understand that people want to say it's Kawhi's fault or whatever the case may be. And I'm and me not saying that it's not Kawhi's fault doesn't mean that I'm saying Kawhi didn't know what the fuck he was doing. Kawhi knew exactly what the fuck he was doing. He knew just written to Pablo Pablo's gonna let me know. So yeah, Jax: he w he knew everything. There there's like literal proof he knew. He there was his name his name's on signatures and all the like w he knew about this whole thing. Like Greg: but I don't put the blame on Kawhi because at the end of the day, somebody has to Put pen to paper and say, okay, yes, you could do that. Kawhi can't do that on his own. same, Jax: And then what? Greg: same with Uncle Dennis. people talk about Uncle Dennis. The Uncle Dennis part of it to me. at the end of the day, when you say Uncle Dennis, the word uncle comes first. That nigga is an uncle through and through. That that nigga sounds like a nigga that says, Hey, I'ma take the brunt of this charge, I'ma take the brunt of Jax: Sound like a real nigga to me. Sound like a real nigga to me. Greg: this charge to protect the brand. And I know you still gonna you know take care of me on the back end, on the backside. They Jax: Just so Greg: was literally in fucking China wherever I forgot what overseas country they was. Uncle Den is still there. Jax: Uncle De U Ban banning Uncle Dennis from NBA games, that that means nothing to him, honestly. Greg: Uncle Uncle Den Uncle Denis still with Kawhi right now, traveling. he had no idea. If I had no idea a nigga was doing some funny shit behind my back, we wouldn't be traveling. I don't give a fuck if it's family or not. Some niggas know. Come on now. Jax: Yes. But then one one more question real quick before we move on, because it is like we said, there's a lot of stuff we gotta get to. But what Greg: Absolutely. Jax: team will Kawhi be remembered by? Like is he gonna be remembered as a Spurs? Is he gonna be remembered as a Clipper? Is he gonna be remembered as a Raptor? Like his nice memories is with the Raptors. And you say who? Greg: All three. All three. All three. Jax: You think any besides Toronto, any of them retiring as Jersey? Greg: Shit. If I'm being totally honest, I don't see why the Spurs wouldn't. That's a finals MVP Jax: Would not Greg: nigga. I don't see why they wouldn't, would not. I don't know. I don't know a finals MVP that's never gotten their jersey retired where they got the finals MVP. That's just me. Jax: I don't see I see who the Spurs jer well I'm I don't care too much. I don't care that much. I'll look it up later. But I wonder who who exactly the Spurs have retired jerseys of. Like I'm assuming, you know, Tim, Manu, Tony, but I wonder who else. And also they won multiple fr they won multiple championships, Greg: Probably George probably George Gervin. Jax: so Greg: Okay. Yeah, they they got Iceman. I don't know. Iceman Iceman didn't Iceman didn't win, did he? I don't think he did. Jax: You can get retired 'cause he was just a cold nigga. But Greg: He was a cold, cold ass nigga. But I mean, like the like when it comes to the Spurs, I think once Pop, once Pop and Kawhi kind like dapped it up, like the Spurs, like the Spurs organization is not the same as the Spurs fans. The Spurs organization still fucks with Kawhi. They still have a good relationship. they kind of let bygones be bygones or whatever the case may be. Jax: As they should, as they should. Greg: As he should. he won't be like the most remembered Spur because th there's just a whole bunch of all time greats there. But he he gonna be like in that top ten, top seven of like you remember Kawhi, even though he didn't talk as much. But most of them niggas didn't talk like that. Jax: Spurs will a Spurs gonna have a crazy like top 10 all-time franchises. Like as far as like players, Spurs is crazy. Yeah. But Greg: Jesus Christ. Yeah. Players? Yeah, for sure. Jax: let's go ahead. Let's step into college football. Cause college football, college football, college football mess, bro. Like, golly, but let's start with the most because we're gonna get to LSU, but that's just an ongoing, perpetual mess. So let's start with UNC. Despite the fact that they won their first game against TCU, shout out to them. Shout out to Bill Belichick. Mike Lombardi, who is their general manager, he just got he didn't get he was suspended without pay. He's been suspended without pay since July. But now he's officially resigned. And we talked about this briefly, that at least that he was suspended. But now it comes out that they were investigating this whole time and there's just allegations on allegations. let's see. I have a where is it? There we go. lawyers they were hired to conduct an investigation, and they're questioning people about whether defensive coordinator Steve Belichick, which yes, he is Bill's son, was on drugs while on the job or also provided drugs to a player. There's questions about whether a member of the recruiting staff was having sexual relations with the player, there if there were sexual relationships between assistant coaches and recruiting staff, just a whole bunch of a whole bunch of everything going on. All that's under Mike Lombardi and subsequently Bill Belichick. Greg: These niggas is Jax: And like Greg: free balls. Jax: I just wanna know what Jordan Hudson has to say about this. I wanna know what her thoughts are on this. Greg: You the first in my bloodline to say some shit like that. I thought I would never see the day when you said some shit like that. As much as you've been talking about this woman. wow. How the how the how the how the turns tables. You know what I mean? yeah. I too will like to hear from Jordan Hudson. This is crazy. Which is honestly, I wanna hear from Jax: I want to hear from Bill Belichick. And I know he like he's one he's 100% going to get asked questions probably whenever I I mean I'm assuming they play tomorrow. So probably after in the pressure after that game, he'll probably get a whole lot of questions about that. But it's just like and also Steve Greg: Actually I don't. Jax: Belichick, like I said, he's been he had he's on he's been on paid leave since I think June, I wanna say, but he was he was take he took a medical absence in June rather. So he hasn't been with Greg: Merquarts. Jax: the team for a minute. But like I said, he's still fighting whatever demons he may allegedly be fighting. So it like it's a lot going on. And for for a coach who was, you know, like the pinnacle of professionalism when he was in the NFL, outside of, you know, his two cheating scandals, but like the pinnacle of like professionalism and championship football and working hard and blah, blah, blah. And now we just UNC has just become like, for lack of a better term, a shit show under his watch. Like, I don't know how to reconcile this. Like, I just just I'm just very surprised the Bill Belichick ran, it's not the franchise, but I'm still gonna call the Bill Belichick ran franchise just this bad, you know? Greg: what I've learned post the New England run, Bill Belichick don't run no straight program. That's that's very clear. Jax: It actually I said that and now let me stop and think about it. Because I should have expected Bill Beheld Jack franchise to run like this. This nigga was caught cheating twice. This nigga Greg: Yes. Jax: had a serial killer on his team. Greg: Absolutely. Jax: Tom Brady, I don't know what Tom Brady did, but there's he just don't seem right to me. I can't I can't call it. But there's something about Tom Brady when I look in his face, it's just something feels a little bit off. I don't know what it is, but something about that. So I I I guess maybe I should have expected. Greg: And that nigga and that nigga came and that nigga came from the Cleveland Browns, nigga. Signs were there. Okay. Yeah. Jax: Yeah. Greg: The the only reason why niggas didn't look too hard at Bill Belichick was because his owner was a freak bull and garnered more attention when it came to You know what Jax: Freaks of a feather flock together, bro. Greg: I mean? Like he was able he he he's like a he's not very out loud with with with his shit, you know what I mean? He's very quiet. He don't talk, whatever. And they they t they treated that as stoic. Says, no, this nigga is still on some other shit. I actually I don't want to hear from Bill Belichick. I want to hear from Hulu. I want them video footages that they that they got. I know they ain't delete them footages. I know they I I know like, and I'm not saying that there's a correlation between them cutting the cameras off. Or like cutting the documentary Jax: Yeah. Greg: off and w I'm not saying that there's a correlation. But y'all not finna sit here and tell they ain't got nothing on them goddamn videotapes. If everything is what y'all Jax: Okay, yeah. Greg: telling me it is, somebody got something, nigga. Yah yah I mean, like and y and and it was the four K shit. You know what I mean? Eight K now. Jax: all we know is that more will 100% be revealed in this whole situation. And I for Greg: Absolutely. Jax: one cannot wait. But Greg: for sure. Jax: let's go ahead. I mentioned it earlier. Let's get to the LSU thing, cause Lane Kiffin is still Lane Kiffening, even though college football like their first game is, I believe, tomorrow. Greg: It is tomorrow. Jax: But an injunction has been granted by Judge William Jordan, paving the way for the NCAA and SEC eligibility for more than 40 athletes. That group includes Daquan Wright and Xavier Harris, who were two players who I know Daquan was with the Browns. I cannot remember what team Harris was with. Might have been the Jets, but I could be very wrong when I say that. But they came back from the NFL to play in college, play with Lane Kiffing. And I guess, man, like This whole shit needs to stop, bro. But I'm not surprised that this ruling happened because this was a Louisiana judge and of course the Louisiana judge is going to side with LSU because duh. And because of this whole thing happening, where is I had Greg: I'm about to say this was this is what you gonna show me because of LSG? Jax: No, I had pressed forward, but Okay, there we go. Because of this ruling, the SEC has now filed a lawsuit against LSU and Lane Kiffin, meaning, yes, they are in fact suing Lane Kiffen. But and they're saying that LSU and Kiffin had like a deliberate and coordinated campaign to actually like recruit these players to hey come back and play for LSU. So this whole thing is going on while college football sees like their first game is tomorrow. Like all this is going on. And their first game is against Clemson. And this Clemson did this, which really pissed me off. They notified LSU. They said that they said, hey, LSU, playing these former pros in this game against us may breach the game contract between these schools. But they're not gonna do anything about it. Like Clemson, they're not Clemson isn't gonna seek there's Clemson still planning on playing the game. They aren't gonna seek any financial damages or anything. They just they just went and like issued like a statement saying, Hey, LSU, you can't do this. Greg: I mean, what else could they do? You want them niggas to shut up? Clifford can't do shit about it. If the if the NCAA can do it. Jax: Do s do something about it, Clemson. Like Clemson, like No, but I'm s no they no I'm saying like Clemson, they just released a statement and said, Hey, LSU, no, you can't do that. But they're also not like s they're not trying to seek any like financial get back or whatever. They're just, you know, bringing up it's just I don't know, it's just just saying shit for no reason, like Greg: There's there's nothing that they were gonna be able to do that was gonna get it resolved in two weeks. Whatever they were gonna do, if they really wanted to get some financial whatever, it was gonna take all season long to recoup that shit and I think it they might Jax: But at least say like at least say like, hey, y'all niggas better pay us back or something. Like you you doing this, you you let them play. Y'all are gonna face some type of punishment. They're not even pretending to say there's gonna be a punishment. They're just saying, Hey, no, you can't do this. Like I don't I don't like when people Greg: Yeah. Jax: just say stuff and then don't do nothing about it. Like nigga, do something. Fight that nigga. Greg: Wow. Jax: But Greg: As a as a as a nigga as a nigga that hates doing stuff above my pay grade, I understand. There's supposed to be somebody higher that should be doing my fucking job, nigga. Why am I doing Jax: Yeah, that's that that's very fair. Greg: more than the NCAA, nigga? Jax: It's 'cause like the NCAA, it's just they have no because all this NIO, since that whole thing happened, like the NCAA, they just don't have any more power for anything anymore. And that's why all these players and all these teams are going around and getting these courts to rule, like, hey, no, say these players can play, and of course the judge is gonna rule because they like their alma mater or they like their state school. It's just I don't even like I don't think anybody could have seen this coming from like yes, we understand that Lane Kiffin has a reputation he has and he's a wild boy and he does all this crazy stuff, but I don't think anybody saw like this happening, like Lane Kiffin just like ripping a hole in college football and just Sort of destroy not destroying it, but like it's one hundred percent like on the path to destruction. Like if it's if it's a bomb, the fuse has been lit already and it's slowly, slowly getting closer to the actual bomb where it explodes, I feel like. Greg: Yeah, I think Lane Kiffin. Lane Kiffin is Am I tripping if I call that nigga a weapon of mass destruction? But Jax: No. Greg: he was a weapon of mass destruction, and that nigga saw a match in the woods. He saw a singular match in the woods that he could pour light of food on and make a fire. And that match, I feel like, was Shamar Stewart last season. I feel like that gave that nigga some ideas. Jax: What do you mean? What what do you mean by that? Greg: When whenever that Shamar Stewart thing was happening and he was like withholding stuff because of the contract was whatever, and you had those speculations of niggas saying, he he he can go back to college or whatever. And niggas were trying to niggas was trying to niggas Jax: okay. I didn't even I didn't even make that connection. Greg: was trying to shut it down. And of course niggas were gonna shut it down and whatever. And everybody said it was preposterous. He signed a contract or whatever. But I feel like somebody that is a weapon of mass destruction, I feel like niggas picked up on that. A nigga like Lane Kiffin pondered on that. He probably didn't think he was gonna have an opportunity. I Jax: Mm. I didn't even I didn't even think about that. That's yeah. Greg: I don't think he had I don't think he thought he was gonna have an opportunity to do some shit like that, especially not soon. But Jax: Yeah. Greg: I feel like that that was a match that people are kind of a little overlooking, like, damn, like not that we saw it coming, but I can see the tracks of like, okay, like that happened last season. Jax: Yeah, I c I can see how you could jump from that to that. Like I see like like that meme with the like the domino, like the little one that ended up the big I think like yeah, I can see how Greg: Yeah. Jax: that. Greg: I can see it. And nobody knew it was gonna be successful and nobody thought it was gonna happen like this fast, but I think about that. Like the more this shit plays out, the more I think about that Shamar Stewart thing. Even though like it wasn't even like his overall plan to do that. He genuinely just wanted a better contract. But he was flirting with the idea and he would go back to Texas AM and visit or whatever, do that Aaron Donald shit, which we'll talk about later. But it's just like y you know, you flirt with the idea. and plus that's an SEC school too, so yeah. It it's it i it's the the two-paced in the tube scenario that you talk about all the time. It's like, hey man, at some point, some of this stuff, you know, it starts oozing out by accident. Like some of this stuff is just it's kinda hard to To do it, but like I like we always say, this is the NCAA's fault. Get it right. Jax: I just wanna know like well there's not gonna be a smooth resolution, but I just do want to know what the exact resolution will be. But it's probably gonna like Greg: I mean the I think the I think the resolution should should have been to just either put twenty twenty two as part of the new NIL initiative for the class of twenty twenty three on up or give them niggas the COVID year that twenty twenty one and twenty on down got. Like you intentionally isolated one draft, one one senior class that doesn't have a a fifth year thing. And I feel like the NCAA would have had a better argument if they were saying, Hey, no more fifth year, you know, exceptions after 2021. So like the new NIL stuff, they're not getting fifth year shits either, real lumping y'all with y'all would have a better argument. But the fact that you gave the niggas before them fifth years and the new contract and the new NIL deal and agreements, they have a fifth year too. That was stupid. Why didn't you just put them niggas in one? Why did you isolate them niggas, bro? There was no reason to isolate them niggas. You did this on purpose. Like you, like there was, you could have avoided all of this shit. Nobody had a meeting. Nobody said, hey, what's a what we gonna do with 2022? Y'all just shrugged your shoulders and said, hey, fuck it. What they gonna do about it? They showed you what they was gonna do about it. Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: They showed you, bitch. We're not gonna allow you to just. Make a shut up and dribble, nigga. That was so dumb. That was stupid. That was avoidable. Jax: Everything about this has been avoidable. And that's just that's like the most frustrating. All of this has been avo honestly, for every single Greg: Like we could be mad we can be mad, hey we can be mad at them niggas for doing all that shit, but Jax: for literally every single like quote unquote issue we've talked about this episode, all of these are the most avoidable. Greg: So avoidable. Jax: Everything is so avoidable. Everything has been so avoidable. Greg: So avoidable and nobody's safe. I haven't said you're so safe in the long time. Nobody's safe. Niggas haven't been safe in a month. Jax: my gosh. So avoidable. But let's go to the let's go to the NFL. Greg: For sure. Jax: real fast, real quick, the Pro Football Hall of Fame, they've dropped some new rules. They're switching stuff up. And let me tell y'all about it. Now they made these changes. Amongst the biggest changes, the selection committee has been reduced from 50 members to 28. Not really relevant to us, we don't care. modern era players and the senior players are no longer in separate categories, so it's all eligible players in one big pool after they reach that, you five-year mandatory retirement period. the finalist group changes from it used to be 15 modern era players, three senior era players, a coach. In the contributor, but now it just switched to 13 players total, one coach and one contributor. And that's like for the final for the finalist list. like we said, there's no more seniors or there's no more senior class, so that whole thing has been eliminated. candidates who reach the final seven will no longer automatically carry over as finalist the following year. I'm low key, not entirely mad at that, to be completely honest. And then also contributor eligibility will now consider a candidate's entire football resume, including playing, coaching, and other contributions. I don't know what they included before necessarily, but still. Greg: No, I think they I think they they like separated their stuff so like if you were a contributor then you were contri like we're only viewing you based off your contributor accolades. If you were like a coach, like like for like Herm Edwards, like if they wanted to do Herm Jax: Mm-hmm. Greg: Edwards, we're only looking at the coaching resume of Herm Edwards. We're not bringing in the the player aspect. But now in Jax: okay, okay. Greg: this new one, we can combine accolades the whole body of work of what you contributed to the to the to football in general or to the NFL. I'm not mad at that. Jax: yeah, I I met at that at all. I met at that at all. Greg: I'm not mad. I granted, I didn't even know they separated it like that, but more you know, Jax: Very true. Greg: but yeah, I'm I'm not mad at that. and I think Jax: Yeah, so Greg: they did did you say that they decreased the like decreased the number Jax: The final the finalist class. Greg: but like the voters. Jax: yeah, they went it went from fifty voted to twenty eight, right? Yeah, fifty to twenty eight, yeah. Greg: Yeah, because I think each each home state or like each home state of a team had at least like one voter or whatever. So they cut that out. And I think they cut it down to like fifteen on top of 'cause I think somebody I I forgot who the CEO of all this bullshit is, but he was basically saying like getting it getting it away from that concept erases or feels like He said it would feel like it would minimize like the biasness of certain people or certain regions not fucking with this region or Jax: Yeah. Greg: whatever the fuck it may be. And now we b basically the the Bill Belichick bullshit. And on top of that, this will be the first year. They're bringing it back in person. They haven't been voting in person, or at least for the final voting, since COVID. So now people are now coming in person, like flying out in person. I don't know if they're doing it in Canton or I don't know where the fuck they're doing it. But now these voters are all gonna come together. Y'all gonna see each other face to face on some bullshit. You're not finna just computerize your vote and just throw it and close your laptop, you know what I mean? Like a like Jax: I like that. I like the in person. I th I thought it's it's always been in person. I didn't know they took that away, but I like this coming back in person. Greg: It's yeah, it's always in person. They just kind of like it's kinda how like niggas Jax: The pandem the pandemic will run everything. Greg: it's kind it's kinda how like niggas did like work from home post COVID and they just kinda Jax: Yeah. Greg: kept it up like I actually we don't need the field. Jax: I no we need you back in the office. Come on. Give get back in here. Greg: And for the first time, all right, yeah got me. You know what I mean? They do need to be back in office, nigga. Like they don't need to be working from home, bitch ass nigga. Fuck no. Nah, this is way too important. Fuck no. Jax: Yeah. Greg: but honestly, there's a lot of people that's kinda complaining about certain things like this. I think people are like they view the minimite, like the reducing from fifty to twenty-eight as like somebody saying, like is now it's gonna be harder, even harder to get in. And I don't really view I don't really view it that way because they need a eighty per they need eighty percent to To get into the hall, I think. I think you need an eighty percent vote or whatever the fuck it may be. And I feel like I'm looking at it more on the standpoint of that's just less people that have to say yes for me to get in. Like I don't think it's tougher to get in because of the reduced voters. Jax: Think it I I think it's tougher to get in, but I don't think it's because of reduced voters. I think it's tougher to get in because they like they took out they they now lump everybody in together with the whole modern era and the senior era. Like I think that's what makes it tougher. And also the whole the where was it? I just read it. The final seven no longer carrying over. I think that also makes it tougher to get in. But like I said, I'm not even entirely mad at the final seven no longer automatically carrying over. Because Greg: I'm not I'm not bad. Jax: sometimes like It'd be it'd be new niggas who ret who finally reached that five years and be yeah, no, we need to get him in because he's the first ballot type. So I ain't mad at that at all. Greg: For sure. I'm not mad either. Jax: But that was us talking about the Hall of Fame, you know, the Hall of Fame class and everything. But let's talk about another Hall of Fame player who, Lord Jesus, he came back. Greg: Well. Jax: if y'all did not know, Aaron Donald is back, employed with the Los Angeles Rams. he came out of retirement. I think he's been retired for three years. I think he retired at 32 when he's 35. two seasons away, my fault. But he was running the Rams. It's felt like longer. It's felt like longer. Greg: I swear it felt like Damn, this nigga impact is crazy. What the fuck? Jax: But listen, listen. Greg: God damn. Jax: But he's coming back on a one year, $20 million deal with incentives that could be that could reach up to $30 million. like I said, he's 35 now, so he's a little bit older. But the thing that sort of like makes me feel like maybe it does not matter is because Aaron Donald literally never fell off. He was never bad. He never had he was an all pro until the day literal all pro until the day he retired. He was a first team all pro his last season before he retired. Like he he never fell off. He never fell off. And he's still big and strong and so. Like we see his workout. He's still in NFL shape. And they're saying that he might set out this first game so he can like, you know, get his whole everything right. But truth be told, I don't think he well, actually no. He probably will set out this first game because that's they're traveling to Australia. So that's a whole look, that's a whole thing. So he might set Greg: Yeah, no. Jax: out the first game. But that second game, he's gonna be there. And it's gonna get wicked, bro. Him and Miles Gary. It's gonna get wicked. Greg: Yeah, man, I'm not gonna lie to you. when that first happened, or when they had the speculations of like, he might come back, I was like, I ain't really scared of this shit. Like, you know what I mean? Like at the end of the day, these niggas gotta be healthy. You know what I Jax: I didn't think he was gonna do it. Cause I'm like, he Greg: mean? Jax: he retired off on a ring. He like he won on a good note. Like I thought he's you know, he's a lot of people view him as one of the greatest defensive players. Greg: Yeah, I thought he was cool too, but even in like in my mind, like the hypothetical of him coming back didn't like that in in my mind it really didn't phase me 'cause I'm like, I remember what it was when niggas was gassing up the Packers last year and all this other shit. Now, before you say anything, I d I do understand that nigga Michael Parsons is not d Aaron Donald. Okay, we I get it. All right. But I just said it from a standpoint of like, okay, like, you know what I mean? Like This is still a older team. Matthew Stafford gotta stay healthy. Aaron Donald gotta stay healthy, whatever. Once this shit actually was pinned to paper, yeah, I'm starting to feel it now. I'm like, Yeah, y'all, y'all might yeah, Jax: Yeah, and the thing with that is Greg: yeah, it might be all right. Jax: And like the thing with that is though like I'm starting to feel like cause I'm starting to feel a little bit too 'cause just like dang like he's really back. And this is a D line with him, Miles Garrett, Brayden Fisk. there's two I cannot remember. I cannot remember. I knew their name before I pressed, before I hopped into this call. I cannot remember their names right now. But Byron Young is one of them, and I cannot remember the other one. But they're all dogs. They're literally Greg: yeah. Jax: all dogs. Like Byron Young, I believe he had eight sack last season, and they wasn't even like crazy. Like, now you just take that and combine that with Aaron Donald and combine that with Miles Garrett. Like, what are we talking about? But Then I still do believe that. I don't think super teams really win in the first year. So I don't although this team is a very frightening team, defensive wise and offense as well, if you Greg: And offensive Leo. Jax: if Matthew Stafford's back holds up, of course, which you know maybe will, maybe won't, we don't Greg: Yeah. Jax: know. But like I just I don't really think super teams win in the first year for real. I don't think they do. Greg: Yeah, I mean for me like there's there's still I don't I don't see a team like the Rams just walking away with it where it's just like seven Patriots type shit. Jax: 'Cause they're still in a tough cause the Seahawks just won. And Seahawks are still a good team. the forty Greg: Good team, bro. Jax: niners, if they're all alive still they're gonna be a good team. We don't we don't know. They keep they keep dying. And Dejaon Love's not coming around that corner no time soon, so Greg: Or Kyle Shanahan, bro. People keep talking like people are not talking about enough about Kyle Shanahan. Jax: I I think he is I think he is coaching. I think he is coaching. Greg: I thought they I thought they were saying the first game or two, like that nigga's like not gonna be coaching. That's why Forrester stepped up. Jax: No, I he did, but I think I think Shanahan coached that last preseason game, if I'm not mistaken. I could Greg: okay. Jax: like I could be very mistaken. I don't know, but I if I'm not mistaken. Let me see. Greg: Okay, yeah. But they they regardless, they've been going through shit all off season. Like it's been nonstop with these niggas. derogatory, so Jax: yeah, Kyle Shanahan will be he will be coaching. Greg: Okay, bet. All right. That's good. That's good. Jax: But we still on the NFL. You know, season really finna start. So it is actually about that time for us to do some division standings. Who we think is gonna win each division, etc. So let me go ahead. You can see my screen right now, Greg. Greg: Yeah, I can see it. Jax: Let's go ahead and start with the AFC East. Who do you think winning this division? Greg: the team I'm about to pick, I'm picking out a spike. 'Cause I'm tired of how they talk about this other nigga. I got the Patriots winning this division again. I'm tired Jax: Okay. Greg: of how they talk about Josh Allen. They always do this little sympathy PR shit, like, my God, my god, he finna Jax: They do, they do. Greg: It's like, bro, I'm tired. I'm tired of this white white man tier. Normally white woman tears, but y'all do this white boy tier on on the internet. I'm tired of it. If he's that nigga, he can do it. I don't got the Patriots. Jax: It that being said, I I do I agree with you wholeheartedly, but I also I'm I'm still going with the Bills as far as winning the division. I think the Patriots are gonna have a tougher schedule this season. 'Cause like normally when you win the Super Bowl, you you get like or not win, but normally you get to the Super Bowl. The further you get in the previous season, it increases your strength to schedule. So I'm pretty sure the Patriots have a tougher schedule. Greg: Yeah, 'cause they had the commanders in hell last year, so I get it. Jax: Yeah, so I'm I'm going with the Bills. Who you think will be last Greg: It's Jax: in the division? I like, man, bro. I I don't want it to be the Jets because I Greg: for for for Aaron Glenn for Aaron Glenn's sake, it better be the Dolphins, nigga. Jax: But I want Malik because I want Malik Willis to succeed too. But I also want Aaron Glenn. It's so I don't know. Greg: I mean, you're gonna have to figure out who you want to succeed more 'cause they both can't succeed simultaneously. Jax: Honestly, in a perfect world, the Jets win the division and the Dolphins get second. Greg: yeah. Jax: But that ain't never gonna happen. Greg: I feel like that new Jets fan would be and a nigga be and a nigga be lit. Jax: Maybe that's maybe he's maybe he's the missing piece for them. All right. Greg: Maybe. Maybe it's a good luck jar. Jax: But let's go to the AFC North. Who you got winning this division? Greg: this division pisses me off because every time it I like I'm sp like I know who's supposed to win a division, but it's always a toss up with this bullshit. Jax: Correct. Correct. Greg: for Baltimore's sake, they better win it. because bad things gonna happen if if they if they underperform this year. Jax: Yeah. Greg: I'm not a believer I'm not a believer in the Steelers with Mike McCarthy and Aaron. Rogers. the Browns don't even know who they wanna want at quarterback. And Joe Burrow just gonna have to prove it to me that he can stay healthy enough to even be in these conversations, in my opinion, about winning a goddamn division. The nigga gets injured every year. And every time them niggas start an O and two, niggas get on my ass and be like, Why would you say they're not gonna bait the playoffs? Cause these niggas are hurt. but I got the Ravens. Jax: I got the Ravens as well for this reason. And I'm looking at the I'm looking at the Bengals first two games real fast. They play the Bucks and the Texans. Greg: They're losing both of those games. I'm so sorry. Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: my God. Every time these niggas go they always start either one and two or and two. Every time. Crazy. Jax: All right, let's let's take it to the AFC South. Who you got winning this division? Greg: They're gonna call me a hater for this. I got the Jaguars. Jax: Whoa, that's crazy. I got the Texans, but what makes you take the Jaguars? I do think Jaguars are a good team. I'll say that much. Greg: I I think I I think they I think they took a positive step last year. nobody Jax: Okay. Greg: nobody had them niggas doing nothing crazy. I I I like Lean Leon Cohen. am I a believer of like Trevor Lawrence? No, I don't really know how good or how bad that nigga is, but at the same time I could say the same thing for CJ Stroud too. So I don't know. And on top of that, you know, I'm hoping Travis Hunter has a better year this year than he did last year. I know he had some injuries. He was fighting through some shit. maybe two way might not may not be the move for that nick. I don't know. Jax: I hope they stopped that shit, bro. I hope like it was cool Greg: I don't know. Jax: in college. Cool a little bit for the first thing, but let's let's be for real now, guys. Let's be for real. Greg: Yeah, so I got the Jags winning. And I'm not gonna lie, this is this is not this is not a walk a walkthrough division. the Colts are they'll fuck some shit up too. I'm not saying they're gonna win it. But them niggas went seven and when nobody said w they went seven and with Daniel Jones, nigga. I look, that that that's a that that's a strength. Jax: But then Daniel Jones, he's coming off a tour in Achilles though. So that's why I'm like I ain't Greg: What the fuck that mean? Jax: too worried about the Colts for real. Greg: Them niggas got Jonathan Taylor. I'll be all right though. Jax: And then the Titans I just hope I just hope Cam Ward does well. That's it. That's all I can say about the Titans, bro. Greg: We we ask. Jax: AFC w this I don't even know this division, but who do you got in this division? The AFC West. Greg: shit. Jesus Christ. Okay. Jax: Like I know it's not the Raiders, but all the other team I cause like the Broncos, I don't believe in Bowniks. I'm sorry, it's not gonna happen. Chiefs, they're the Chiefs, but they also still have no weapons for real. And Patrick Mahomes is coming off of ACL injury. Which I mean, he's still Patrick Mahomes, but just he just coming off of ACL injury. And then the Chargers, they got all the talent in the world, but they're also the Chargers, so Greg: I'm not buying that bullshit, bro. I don't know. If man, you I don't give a fuck about if man, nigga. I'ma go ahead and say Broncos because I feel like that's the healthiest out of all these teams. I don't say it I'm not saying that that's the best team in the division. I just feel like they'll be able to win enough games like they did last year to win regular season games. And I I I think Bo Nick's should be healthy and ready to go by that time. I think he broke his foot and all that other shit. So he should he should be good. Jax: Yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty sure about it. Greg: He'll be all right. So yeah, I got Bo Nick's. and of course the Raiders will probably be like the weakest team on here, but Jax: Of course. Greg: that's not saying shit for real. They're a young team. Jax: Me, I don't I don't feel good about it, but I'm taking the charges. But like I said, I don't feel good about it at all. Yeah, like I said, I don't feel good about it. Greg: my God. Putting your putting your faith putting your faith in if man? Jax: Ain't my fate, should we but let's go to the NFC. Starting with the NFC East, all right? Who do you got winning this division? Greg: You know what this is. Jax: No don't do not good do not say it like that. You know what happens when you say it like that. You know what happens when you say it like Greg: I didn't say I didn't say it. I didn't say I was saying it in a sense of like even though even though the Eagles broke the curse last year and finally they had back to back things, like normally it's a different Jax: I wanted to start again because I actually I I really did like that. I thought it was cool. Greg: It's like a different team literally a different team every season or whatever, it's not the same one. Jax: I thought I thought that was so cool, bro. I wanted to start getting I thought it was cool. Greg: Yeah, let well let's let's start it back over again and it and it's gonna be the Cowboys. It's for sure gonna be the Cowboys. how about you? Jax: I also do think as a Cowboys, I don't wanna come off of like a crazy delusional Cowboys fan, but I really do like a lot of the Greg: It feels different. Jax: moves they make. Their offense is still going to be good if everybody's health or as long as Dak is healthy, the offense is gonna be good. like I I liked a lot of the moves their defense makes. They added like real deal players, like and then the Eagles, they just always got some shit going on. So that's why I can't really pick them. Like their Eagles are still like the monsters, but they just always got something going on, bro. Like so. And then the Giants and the C Giants are going to be the worst team in division. Then the Commanders Greg: I disagree. Jax: using the Commanders? Greg: Yeah. Jax: Well Greg: I think I think that their offensive line is bad and Lermy tonsil with them. this nigga this that nigga Jaden Daniels has also come in off of an injury, off of having like a very good rookie year and like a subpar sophomore year or whatever. at least with the Giants, not saying that Jim Harbaugh is like some magical potion or whatever. And I'm not even saying that them niggas is is nice like that for real. I'm just saying I count more weapons over there offensively. Little de defensively, they kind of slack back. I think they lost Dexter Lawrence, but Jax: No, but the Giants de the Giants defense they still got that D line is crazy 'cause they just drafted Arville Reese and then they got Brian Burns. They got Abdural, Greg: You got Brian Burns. Yeah. Abdul Carter. Jax: Kayvon Tim. So I think their D line is gonna be crazy, at least. But I just Greg: Yeah, so I I just think because it's it's a new vibe and a new energy there, I I think they'll be better than the commanders. Now, does that mean one is six and seven and one is five and eight? Yeah, sure. Like maybe maybe they're just one game better. But yeah, I I I just don't see it this year. I don't see it as them being the worst in the division. Jax: I just I had the Giants being worse 'cause I just one hundred percent do not believe in Jackson Darr as a quarterback at all. And I don't think Cam Scadabell is good either. So there's that. Greg: I mean, I don't believe in in Jackson Dart as a man, but you know, facts is facts Jax: All Greg: is facts. Jax: right. Let's go to the NFC North. Who you got winning this division? Greg: Man, this is very tough for me, I'm not gonna lie to you. You know, 'cause my heart my heart says, Give that shit to Chicago. That's what my heart's telling me. Jax: Okay. Greg: I'm gonna go out on a limb, just respect just respect my decision, keep pushing. I think the Vikings gonna do it. Jax: I was gonna say that too. I do think the I think the Viking, because like, see, the thing is the Lions, I believe, if I'm not mistaken, I believe they have a really tough schedule this upcoming season. Let me look this up real fast. Let me, but going to the Packers, though. The Packers, their defense will be bad because Micah's out for okay, the Lions looked to have a relatively easy schedule. So never mind. But like I said, I'm still going with the Vikings. Greg: They play be they they play they play hella dome games too. Yeah with indoor games. Lions. You know. Jax: That's true. And that's good for Jared Goff. But La Packers, what I was saying, Micah, he's gonna be out 'cause he has this I'm is it back or ace? I'm not sure what injury he has, but he's gonna be out for, you know, the first part of the season. That defense really has no other players besides him. that offense, I do think the offense is still relatively good, but you know, Josh Jacobs being possibly suspended, we don't know because he got like a whole court case going on right now. So I think the Packers Greg: Yeah, it's getting better. Jax: will take a little bit of step back. The Bears I feel like they got lucky a lot last season and their defense still not good for real. And then like the Vikings, like they were literally just a qu they just all they needed last year was a serviceable quarterback. Their defense is still amazing, just because that's what Brian Flores does. Justin Jefferson is Justin Jefferson, so he's going to cook as far as receiving core. They have like a good one with Jordan Addison still there. Greg: Yeah, and they and they lost and they lost and they lost DJ Moore. Jax: Who? the Bears, yeah. But DJ Martin really Greg: Bear. Yeah, they lost DJ be more. Jax: liked it there for real. So like I said, I'm I'm with you though, I do think the Vikings win this division. Greg: Yeah, bro. I just feel like those r the cause they all they've always had quality receivers. I know Matt was Add Jordan Addison like Jax: Yeah. Greg: missed a couple games and you know they had nine over there. I just feel like if they had somebody competent to throwing the ball, respectfully not to compare them to another team or whatever. Like they're their their wide receiver and core would be right up there with C D and and Pickens or AJ Brown and Devontae Smith. Like when we talk about like the Jamar Chase and T. Higgins, like Jax: Yeah. Greg: they got that wide receiver core that can be dangerous if they have a dynamic player out there that can throw them the ball. And on top of that, Kyler Murray got legs. Not that McCarthy didn't have legs. That's just all that nigga had. You know what I mean? So Jax: Yeah. And Kyle Murray's legs are probably better than JJ. Not even probably they are better than JJ McCarthy. And that's Greg: Sure. Jax: not respect to J. McCarthy. This is Kyle Murray's a crazy athlete. Greg: No, that's all disrespect to that nigga. I ain't gonna lie. Jax: Right. All right. To the to the NFC South. Who you got winning dude? Greg: Okay. Now this one is gonna be a little bit more competitive than I would like it to be, you know, for like four years straight. You know, for Jax: It always is. It always is. Greg: for four years straight, I've been saying the Buccadeers will win this division. it went from nigga, are you crazy to this is just the gold standard, like of course it's gonna be this nigga. man. I gotta go I still gotta go to Bucks. I still gotta go to Bucks, but it's gonna be so much more closer than I would like it to be. Jax: I'm Greg: between the Panthers and the Bucks for me. Jax: I'm going with the Bucks as well. And that's just off the strength of contract year Baker. 'Cause he didn't Greg: For sure. Jax: he said he didn't get he didn't get signed this off season. He was like, Hey, if y'all don't sign me this offseason, I ain't even finna we ain't even finna play about negotiating this season. Y'all don't sign me by preseason week one, it's cool. We'll pick this up later. I'm finna ball out. And that Baker, every time he's in the contract year, he goes crazy. So that's Greg: In the Jax: why. That's why I'm taking the Bucks, I think. Low key No, I'm not finna say it 'cause I got I have a crazy tape, but I'm not finna say that. I don't wanna I don't wanna jinx nothing. But all right, the last division we got is the NFC South, who you have winning this division. Greg: I mean NLC West. Jax: yeah, NFC West, my fault. N of C West. Greg: Okay, but well let's go ahead and get the most important thing out the way. The Cardinals gonna be the worst team on this division. That's that's that's pretty simple. I'm gonna be honest with you, Jax. I still got them Seahawks, bro. Jax: You still got Seahawks. Greg: I still got the Seahawks winning that bitch. That doesn't mean that come playoff time, the Rams beat the Seahawks or whatever the case may be. I'm not saying that it's like a neck and neck thing. But I think the Seahawks and the Rams are going to have similar wins and losses. And I think. Jax: It's gonna be it's gonna be close between them. Greg: Yeah, it's going to be neck and neck. And I think they will have a better head-to-head or like a better. division like record, a better division record that, you know, kind of edges them out. I can see them tying for the same kind of wins. That that happened last year, I think. They both some two people in it was the Rams and the Seahawks. Jax: It was something, yeah. Greg: They both had 13 wins and one, I forgot which one it was. Yeah. Jax: Had like a tiebreaker on somebody, yeah. Greg: So I think it's gonna be similar. Jax: Okay, yeah. Greg: I I I think it's gonna be similar because the they haven't They they haven't shown me that there's gonna be like some crazy regression on the Seahawk side. It's just the fact that hey, the Rams fucking reloaded and added some extra pieces and shit. So we'll see how it goes. But I still got to see how it goes. Jax: Yeah. Yeah, me I'll take I'll take the Rams in this division. Like I said it's gonna be close between them and the Seahawks and then I the Cardinals are gonna be the worst. I just don't think the forty niners can really hang. They be getting hurt a lot too. And like I said, Dejon Love is not coming to save them, so Greg: Dejaan L deja Love, please save us. Jax: But Greg, Greg: Yeah no. Jax: I think it's that time. Not that time, but it's that time for the old that time. Greg: Damn. A nigga was not prepared for that song. I'ma I'ma do it in post edit. I'ma add it in post edit, my guy. But NFL is back. We got some picks. Jax: All right, that's the bad. But we got Yeah. We got two games a Wednesday night game, and that Wednesday night game is the opening game of the season, then the Thursday night game. for that Wednesday night, the first match of the season, first game of the season rather. We got a Super Bowl rematch. The Patriots at the Seahawks. Who you taking? Greg: Seahawks dog walking. Jax: Dog walking. Greg: Dog walking like shit, bro. This is Australia, right? Jax: They are the they are favored doing you say what? Greg: This is in Australia, right? Jax: No, the Niners Rams game is in Australia. Greg: my phone, my phone, my phone. Okay. Never mind. But yeah, they still dog walking. Jax: Yeah, no. I g I also have the Seahawks winning this game. Dog Walk, I'm not entirely sure, but I think the Seahawks win this game. And then the Thursday night game. Greg: Like they w they went in by they went in by at least like two two touchdowns, two or three touchdowns. Jax: Okay, you said it. But this September this rather this Thursday game in Australia, it's gonna be forty niners against the Rams. Greg: Rams dog walking. Brock Purdy don't know what the fuck to do with that shit, bro. wait, you say you said Aaron Donald's not playing, right? Jax: I'm taking Yeah, I'm taking the Rams. I don't think the Yeah, he might not be playing. Or he's not gonna play 'cause it's all the way in Australia and he just got here for real. Greg: Okay, I I'll let me decrease it. A proper walking. It won't be a dog walk. It'll just be like a regular walking pace, but y'all gonna y'all gonna lose. The Rams winning that. Jax: Yeah, I too got the Rams because the nine everybody in the Niners is like passing away, bro. So that's why I got Yeah. Greg: Like literally Jesus, bro, like it's it's bad. Jax: But now, Greg, it's that time. Greg: And I'm prepared for that one. Jax: I did. Greg: Jax, what is your hot take of the week? Jax: All right, short and sweet. I'ma just say it. I don't care what nobody say. Think Rob Waves can sing better than Chris Brown. I don't think Chris Brown can sing anymore. That's it, that's the take. I don't think Chris Brown can sing anymore. I think Raw Wave sings better than Chris Brown. I'm not even the I'm not even the biggest Rail Wave fan. I just I listened to his new album. It was cool. Like I said, I'm not the biggest Railway fan, but I was just listening. I'm like, you know what, man? He can because I people think Raw Wave is a rapper. I don't think he's a rapper. He's really a singer to me. And I was just listening to it. I'm like, you know what, man? He sort of got like church choir vocals. Chris Brown, he can't sing no more. I don't know why Chris Brown popped in my after that, but it's just like, because I was just thinking about male RB singers. There's not that many who can really sing for real. And people talk about Chris Brown, they're like, I just I don't think he can no more. He always do that weird auto tune stuff on his voice no more to sort of hide it. And Chris Brown at point in his career he could sing for sure. But I don't know if it was like drugs or the lifestyle or age or whatever, but his voice is sorta cheeks now. He used the auto tune to help him all the time. So I think Raw Wade can sing better than Chris Brown. Greg: That's cool and all, but that nigga Rod Wave can't backflip to March Madness. Okay. Jax: You ain't never you ain't seen Raw Wave jump off the when he was Jump Greg: He Jax: off the whatever I can't remember what he was when he jumped off that thing. Greg: Nigga, nigga was scared. That was probably the most depressing shit I've ever seen. my God. Yeah, I I and I think I would tend to lean more towards what she's saying. Unfortunately, just like you don't listen to Chris Brown like that. I don't I don't listen to Rod Wave like that. Nigga Jax: that's fair, yeah. Greg: too sad for me. You know, I'd be in an uplifting mood sometimes. Listen to Rod way before going to work. Jax: His music not even sad no more for real. It's just he just he just be on sad beats. Greg: Yeah, I can't. It's but you know, I I'll I'll give it a listen or whatever the case may be. Jax: No, you don't have to trust you have it's not that. Like it's I was like Greg: good, 'cause I wasn't I was lying right now. I'm not. Jax: it's if you like if you like Rail Wave it's fine. But like I said, I'm not even the biggest Railway fan. Like it was it was I like your life won't change if you don't listen to it. If you listen to it or not, your life won't change. Greg: Okay, but I'm not I'm not mad at that tape. I'm not mad at that tape. Stop giving great stop giving so much grace to brand based influencers. niggas niggas need to know what they're getting themselves into whenever they're supporting a brand, whether they're doing brand type of content, no matter the case. And on top of that, where you're going to promote said brand or influence, whatever. I say all this to say the US open is happening. We didn't really talk about it or whatever the case may be, but US opening is happening. In New York. Jax: Shout out Taylor Townsend. Greg: Shout out to her. Real one. Real one. And every year, because I used to work I used to work it or I used to like be a little bit more involved in it. Every year it's getting more popular and popular. And that's good for the sport or whatever. But now we're Jax: Yes. Greg: getting to this point in time where like niggas it's getting so popular that niggas are starting to lose the etiquette. Niggas is like talking loud. During like the actual like niggas are s it's a game, a match actually playing. They out here having full blown Jax: Yeah, you 'cause you're not you're not supposed be talking when they You're not supposed to be talking that swing and all that. Greg: conversations. Niggas having ring light cameras out as they're doing their influency type of shit. And it's just like, whoa, like respect the etiquette, respect the craft. And it's not anti. Jax: And so so so they can't go they can't go to the US open and start bending? They can't do that? Greg: Not saying that you can't, but like, bitches, match point. What the fuck? Jax: Ha ha ha. Greg: Can we just wait? Can we wait for the match point, my nigga? Y'all I hear flashing. You got flash going on and Coco Golf, like, hey, can y'all can y'all chill with that flash? It's actually fucking with me right now. The the the lady that's over the top, she telling people to be, you know, to be quiet. You know Jax: Yeah. Greg: what I mean? And it's just like. It's not anti-black to just follow certain etiquette. So certain etiquette is not rooted in anti-blackness. I I promise you. I I would be annoyed if white niggas was doing the same thing. even when we doing like, you know, even in golf, there's times when you cheer once the ball swings, or like once it hits the floor, and they're like, yeah, go, go, go, yeah. They doing all that stuff. But before the swing, niggas shutting the fuck up. It don't matter what kind of brand of bastard you are, whatever the case may be, and some people like to say, my God, well, like, you know, they've never been to that environment before, or they don't know no, hey man, look. Jax: Act like you've been there before. Even if you ain't been, act like you've been there before. Greg: Act like nigga, adapt to the environment, bitch ass nigga. It's not crazy. I see other people be quiet, I shut the fuck up. When niggas cheer, I get loud. Like this is really not that big of a deal. So I I said all that to say, hey, yo, like when when we start seeing tomfoolery on the TL or whatever the case may be, Jax: Ha ha. Greg: yo, hold them niggas accountable and say, nah, like. That ain't it. And stop trying to be, my God, give them grace. Fuck that. I'm tired of grace. Only grace I'm giving is before I bless my food. Nigga, like that's the only type of grace I'm going this 2026. I'm tired of niggas just getting grace for any and everything. my God. Cause then y'all start turning into weaponized and competence. Nigga, I don't give a fuck about bro. You know. Jax: Yeah. Greg: You know, nigga, like come on, like yeah, some of y'all cog y'all got it, bro. Y'all are degreed. Some of y'all niggas is degrees, nigga. I'm not trying to hear that. so that's that's my that's my hot take. And Jax: I I I I agree with your I'd say. I I like it. Greg: continue to watch tennis is is is fun. You know what I mean? Once you get past the other bullshit, it's it's fun, you know? Women the women's is better. The women's is better. Jax: I agree. I agree. Greg: But Jackson, your last words. Jax: none except we we made it. We made it through the off season. It's over. We made it through Greg: Man. Man. Jax: the offseason. Football right around corner or football is here now. basketball finna be right around the corner. We made it, great. That's all I gotta say. We we made it. Greg: Man, it's been it's been it's it's been a long two months, bro. It's been a long two Jax: Yeah. Greg: months. July, July and August. We really stood to test us out, bro. Man, what? Jax: Hey, shout out to shout out to Pablo Torre for keeping giving us context today during during all this time. Greg: Nah, dead ass, bro. Like that nigga changed my fuck ass life, bro. Nigga say nigga saved my goddamn life. Jax: Yeah. Greg: as far as me, man. Yeah, Jax, we're back, bro. We're we're so back. We're I I can't I can't wait for the rest of NFL season, basketball season. more stuff to to look forward to. Shit, even WNBA shit. Like the playoffs is is basically here. Even though these niggas playing like team USA games right now. Just in the middle of the season. Jax: Yeah. Greg: Didn't know that was a thing. I shout out to the FIBA. Jax: guess but shout out to them. They was hooping, they hooping earlier, they was going crazy earlier. So Greg: On God they was. They was. I saw Andrees block a seven foot three shot. I'm like, wow. I was I was getting creative. But make sure y'all like, comment, subscribe. more stuff on the way. Be on the lookout. And we'll catch y'all niggas next week.