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Credlin | 4 September · Credlin

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  Speaker 1: Peter Kreedland Live on Sky News Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up
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  Speaker 2: on a busy show. To that on Credline, Daniel Andrews, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: he was at the rally yesterday, the military parade and
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  Speaker 2: it looked bad.
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  Speaker 3: It says, they look shocking.
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  Speaker 2: But to tell you what's worse the un ability of
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  Speaker 2: the Prime Minister to condemn what he did, not to
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  Speaker 2: mention the shameful statement from his successor just into Alan.
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  Speaker 2: I'll show you that at a moment, but also just
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  Speaker 2: laid into our news room. Dictator Dan has issued his
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  Speaker 2: own statement today. As crime spirals out of control of Victoria,
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  Speaker 2: perhaps now the Allen government will be forced into action
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  Speaker 2: after af legend Mick Maltouse bravely thought I've armed invaders
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  Speaker 2: in his own home. I've got Mick on the show
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  Speaker 2: live to tell this exactly what happened and what he
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  Speaker 2: thinks must change.
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  Speaker 3: Plus two and a half billion dollars.
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  Speaker 2: That's the astronomical sum of your money the government's going
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  Speaker 2: to hand out to NARU.
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  Speaker 3: Over the next thirty years.
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  Speaker 2: As big questions remain about these deportations and the PM
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  Speaker 2: stands accused of misleading the Parliament over a secret plan
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  Speaker 2: to repatriate those Islamic State women and children. Albernezi says
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  Speaker 2: nothing to see here, but even the New South Wales
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  Speaker 2: Police have said there are discussions underway. This is a
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  Speaker 2: massive security concern and you deserve to know the truth.
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  Speaker 4: Deputy Commissioner Dave Hudson had confirmed New South Wales Police
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  Speaker 4: were quote working through that issue with the Commonwealth. Can
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  Speaker 4: the Prime Minister explain this contradiction.
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  Speaker 5: There is no contradiction between my Auntie yesterday was absolutely correct.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be coming back to that in a moment. The first,
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  Speaker 2: Australia's massive economic relationship with China should not mean that
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  Speaker 2: we appease it's communist leadership or approve its imperial ambitions.
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  Speaker 2: Over the past twenty four hours a succession of labor figures,
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  Speaker 2: but only those out of the Parliament. I should add
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  Speaker 2: have condemned the presidence a former Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews
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  Speaker 2: and yesterday's massive military parade in Beijing and his participation
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  Speaker 2: in that shocking family photo of the dictators of China, Russia,
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  Speaker 2: Iran and North Korea, all alongside the Victorian, All dictatorships
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  Speaker 2: that are now right now challenging the peace and prosperity
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  Speaker 2: that we have been blessed to enjoy since the end
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  Speaker 2: of the Second World War. Now that's not to deny
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  Speaker 2: that there's been conflict during that time. It's just that
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  Speaker 2: in historical terms, we have been the lucky generations. Spare
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  Speaker 2: the carnage seen by our parents and our grandparents of
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  Speaker 2: Andrew's willingness to stand shoulder to shoulder with war criminals
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  Speaker 2: and despots. The former Queensland Labor Premier Atastasia Palichet said
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  Speaker 2: it was a bridge too far.
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  Speaker 6: There's a difference between trade and going along to a
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  Speaker 6: military parade, So if it was me, it'd be a
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  Speaker 6: definitely no. I would not be attending that. It just
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  Speaker 6: is the next level. It's a bridge too far.
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  Speaker 3: Good on her.
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  Speaker 2: Former Federal Labor emp Michael Dany said it was disgusting.
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  Speaker 2: Other labor figures are even more outspoken. Overnight, one federal
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  Speaker 2: labor and per reportedly called the former Victorian premier a
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  Speaker 2: traitor for standing on a podium with Murder's dictators. The
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  Speaker 2: one person, though, who was not out there with criticism
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  Speaker 2: was the Prime Minister, who insists that he is a
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  Speaker 2: form of flatmate and recent election advisor, was simply there
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  Speaker 2: as a private citizen.
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  Speaker 5: Well that they are deludelves to speaker, I am not
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  Speaker 5: responsible or what every Australian citizen does. None of my
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  Speaker 5: team would have sat in that position as simple as that.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Please, since when does simple private citizens get to
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  Speaker 2: have a handshake there and stand on the red carpet
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  Speaker 2: with the red emperor and stand there too, on full
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  Speaker 2: view with a whole lot of national leaders and watch
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  Speaker 2: that show of communist military might. Dan Andrews was there
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  Speaker 2: as a political accessory. He was there to play homage
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  Speaker 2: to j He was there to pay tribute to the
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  Speaker 2: man who's dead set on taking Taiwan by force if
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  Speaker 2: necessary and replacing the United States is the world's top
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  Speaker 2: power and pre eminent global currency. Dan Andrews was there
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  Speaker 2: in place of the Australian ambassador so that the PM
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  Speaker 2: could walk both sides of the street, so he could
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  Speaker 2: pretend to the Americans and to the Australian people that
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  Speaker 2: we remain a strong security partner, because as our top
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  Speaker 2: diplomat stayed away at the same time, Kaw tawmington Beijing
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  Speaker 2: by sending his best mate to Bowen's scrape for the Chinese.
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  Speaker 2: They had Andrews there for only one reason, so that
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  Speaker 2: the world would think that Australia's on China's side and
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  Speaker 2: Russia's and Iran's and North Koreas. Even though the former
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  Speaker 2: premier has founded two companies which describe themselves as China
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  Speaker 2: focused business ventures, and is working closely with Twiggy Forest
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  Speaker 2: Fortescue Medals to sell so called green iron into China,
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  Speaker 2: And even though it's impossible to do business in China
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  Speaker 2: without a close relationship with the Communist Party, Dan Andrews
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  Speaker 2: has not registered as a foreign agent.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: If you look at the government's official website. Others are there,
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Rudd, Malcolm Turnbull, Alexander Downer, not apparently Dictator Dan
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  Speaker 2: Back a couple of years ago, when Tony Abbott accepted
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  Speaker 2: an unpaid role on the UK Board of Trade, he
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  Speaker 2: was forced to register as a foreign agent, even though
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  Speaker 2: he didn't earn a dollar from that role. And even
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  Speaker 2: though Britain is our oldest ally, so is it fair
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  Speaker 2: that Daniel Andrews seeks lucrative business deals in China and
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  Speaker 2: appears at that sort of propaganda event as we saw
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  Speaker 2: this week with and for the Chinese government, but not
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  Speaker 2: declare himself as an agent of foreign influence something the
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  Speaker 2: Opposition smartly pursued during question time.
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  Speaker 7: Is a Prime Minister aware that Daniel Andrews has not
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  Speaker 7: disclosed his engagement on the Foreign Influence Transparency Scheme register?
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  Speaker 7: And will the Prime Minister immediately write to his close
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  Speaker 7: personal friend and former flatmate seeking his immediate compliance with
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  Speaker 7: the register.
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  Speaker 8: Speak of the.
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  Speaker 9: Question has been framed in a way that it's not
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  Speaker 9: with respect to what the Prime Ministry is officially connected with,
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  Speaker 9: that which has then led to imputation after imputation in
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  Speaker 9: the way that that question has been.
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  Speaker 2: Trained PM not connected with the PM and his government's
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  Speaker 2: own official register. Come on, you at home, can get
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  Speaker 2: on the computer and have a look for Yourselfie is
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  Speaker 2: not there? Former premier's business partner too, Mardy Mai, described
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  Speaker 2: as a rising star of Australian Chinese political community. A
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  Speaker 2: labor networker par excellent so as the Andrews staffer negotiated
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  Speaker 2: Victoria's entry into China's Belton wrote initiative something of course,
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  Speaker 2: Dan today was out there saying he.
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  Speaker 3: Was very proud of.
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  Speaker 2: Andrews is now in business with his staffer reportedly, they're
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  Speaker 2: making millions Very interesting, isn't it. There's also questions here
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  Speaker 2: too for former Newsweld's Premier Foreign Minister, former Foreign Minister
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  Speaker 2: of course, Bob Carr.
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  Speaker 3: Again look at the website.
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  Speaker 2: It would also appear that Carr, like Andrews, has not
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  Speaker 2: registered as a foreign agent. Previously, Carr was the director
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  Speaker 2: of the Australia China Relations Institute. This was founded by
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  Speaker 2: Huang Zumo, who you'll recall was stripped of his Australian
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  Speaker 2: residency because Azio regarded him as an agent of the
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  Speaker 2: Chinese government.
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  Speaker 3: But at least Car had.
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  Speaker 2: The decency to absent himself from the propaganda's stunt. Yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: despite earlier praising the Chinese Communists for their wartime role,
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  Speaker 2: Carr made it known he was too busy hosting an
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  Speaker 2: afternoon tea to attend and this afternoon. Late this afternoon,
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  Speaker 2: Car has issued a statement that it says he had
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  Speaker 2: emphatic and decisive advice from UTS lawyers that he was
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  Speaker 2: not required to sign the register and the interpretation was upheld,
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  Speaker 2: he says, by the AG's Department, which has never required
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  Speaker 2: him to register as a result.
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  Speaker 3: But back to Dictator.
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  Speaker 2: Dan because his Chinese push doesn't end with his front
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  Speaker 2: row spot at G's big parade. Today, more emerged about
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  Speaker 2: the former Victorian premier's boosterism for the Chinese communist dictatorship.
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  Speaker 2: Here's Andrews on Chinese TV claiming that China was leading
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  Speaker 2: the world in renewable energy transitions even though it is
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  Speaker 2: opening two new coal five power stations almost every single week.
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  Speaker 10: If you look at China's record, massive investments and a
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  Speaker 10: big switch, a very big switch, one that I don't
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  Speaker 10: think China quite gets the international credit and acclaim for
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  Speaker 10: that it should should get.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but if he's involved in any of
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  Speaker 2: those industry is, if he's involved in renewables between China
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  Speaker 2: and Australia, I would hope the former premier makes it
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  Speaker 2: publicly and transparently known that it is declared.
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  Speaker 3: The Prime Minister can say all he likes.
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  Speaker 2: That China's military parade was not attended by any quote
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  Speaker 2: government representatives.
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  Speaker 5: My position is very very clear, which is we did
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  Speaker 5: not send any government representative because it wouldn't have been appropriate.
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  Speaker 5: None of my team would have sat in that position.
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  Speaker 5: As simple as.
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  Speaker 2: That, no government representatives. That is empty rehetoric he didn't
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  Speaker 2: need to send the government representative because present was the
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  Speaker 2: person who everybody knows, including the Chinese, that that's the
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  Speaker 2: PM's best mate in politics. Dan Andrews might have issued
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  Speaker 2: that statement like the same afternoon, he's put one out,
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  Speaker 2: cars put one out. But the Andrews statement, well, it's weak.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't even address the issue of the foreign register. Now,
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  Speaker 2: what a shocking look for a former premier. But I'll
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  Speaker 2: tell you what, what a terrible look for our country
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  Speaker 2: that always used to fight for freedom now looks like
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  Speaker 2: it's absolutely driven.
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  Speaker 3: By the Chinese dime.
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  Speaker 2: All right, last sitting day today, last sitting day for
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  Speaker 2: a while. Actually, I think there's a five week holiday
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  Speaker 2: for the polos. I suspect the PM might get married
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  Speaker 2: during this period. I don't know, but looks and feels
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  Speaker 2: like that. Joining me in our senior political reporter Trundy Macintosh.
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  Speaker 2: I'll get to the PM and that possible wedding bells
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  Speaker 2: in a moment. But the whole issue of the Islamic
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  Speaker 2: State women, I don't want to call them brides. I
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  Speaker 2: think they're far more combatants than bride's bride sounds naive
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  Speaker 2: and I don't think they're pretty naive. The opposition pretty
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  Speaker 2: hard on this today. They took the PM to task
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  Speaker 2: over the return of these women. How did it play
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  Speaker 2: out and how have you been able to find out more?
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  Speaker 2: Because a lot of questions here.
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  Speaker 3: Not a lot of detail.
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  Speaker 11: Not a lot of detail coming from the federal level
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  Speaker 11: at least is there, Peter, I think the keyword today
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  Speaker 11: from the Prime Minister was no assistance. So in essence,
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  Speaker 11: the federal government's making it clear that they're not going
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  Speaker 11: to help with officials on the ground getting them out
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  Speaker 11: of the Syrian camp and coming home. But that's not
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  Speaker 11: to say there isn't planning underway federal police, federal authorities
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  Speaker 11: coordinating with the states here in terms of what happens
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  Speaker 11: when these women and children and young boys come home.
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  Speaker 11: We got much more out of the New South Wales
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  Speaker 11: Police Deputy Commissioner last night at this hearing. He was
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  Speaker 11: willing to provide much more detail about that coordination and
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  Speaker 11: crucially what potential charges could be laid against these women
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  Speaker 11: when they get home.
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  Speaker 3: Have a look at a part of that.
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  Speaker 12: I don't think the repatriation is imminent. I think we
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  Speaker 12: have a little bit of time before it's proposed of
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  Speaker 12: bearing it's an offense to being a conflict zone in Syria,
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  Speaker 12: where many of these individuals have been. Whether that's proven
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  Speaker 12: or not, whether we can't prove that, whether we can
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  Speaker 12: prove that they have previously been members of a terrorist
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  Speaker 12: organization or are currently members of a terrorist organization, I
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  Speaker 12: don't know.
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  Speaker 8: We need to work through all that.
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  Speaker 2: And look, Trudy, don't call bs do use the pem's
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  Speaker 2: favorite phrase there on some of the things he said
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  Speaker 2: today in question time. Because Australia at a federal level
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  Speaker 2: will be heavily involved with the return of these women,
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  Speaker 2: the comments they are made by the Deputy Commissioner. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: if there are charges, criminal charges, they won't just be
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  Speaker 2: in the state realm. There'll be federal breaches if there
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  Speaker 2: are charges of a whole range of intelligence legislation. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: if they come back to Australia, they require visas that
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  Speaker 2: require entry. I don't suspect they've got their passports or
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  Speaker 2: that the passports that they might have are even still
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  Speaker 2: in date. Just because a child is born overseas to
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  Speaker 2: someone who purports to be an Australian under our law,
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  Speaker 2: that does not automatically make the child an Australian, so
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  Speaker 2: there'll be some question mark over the citizenship standing of
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  Speaker 2: any dependence. And I think the government, the federal government,
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  Speaker 2: despite what the PM says, will be absolutely up to
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  Speaker 2: their eyeballs in this.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, and it's a very complicated matter, isn't it. As
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  Speaker 11: you just outlined there the steps that need to be
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  Speaker 11: walked through before these women and children can come back home.
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  Speaker 11: I think the best approach here, probably if we're putting
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  Speaker 11: our analyst hats on, would be to be a bit
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  Speaker 11: little more upfront. You have to bring the Australian people
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  Speaker 11: with you. This is inevitably going to happen. We've seen
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  Speaker 11: it with previous cohorts in the past. The new South
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  Speaker 11: of US Police were pretty upfront in answering those questions yesterday.
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  Speaker 11: The PM's approach yesterday essentially to stonewall today a little
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  Speaker 11: more information, but they just don't want to get into
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  Speaker 11: a public back and forth about the details of these cases.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go to Narukas.
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  Speaker 2: I know you've watched that inquiry last night very closely.
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  Speaker 11: What can you tell us, Yeah, we've got finally after
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  Speaker 11: we went off for ESA Peter, the bigger price tag.
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  Speaker 11: We've been waiting for and that is that over a
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  Speaker 11: thirty year deal. Home Affairs are saying that this could
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  Speaker 11: be costing tax payers around two point five billion dollars
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  Speaker 11: to rehouse around three hundred and fifty of these detainees.
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  Speaker 11: And don't forget that big point we talked about yesterday.
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  Speaker 11: NAVRU does not have to accept anyone in terms of
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  Speaker 11: what happened in Parliament today, though the Coalition satisfied enough
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  Speaker 11: with what they heard last night to vote this through
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  Speaker 11: the Senate. So the legislation that actually can curtail some
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  Speaker 11: of the procedural fairness issues that the Government had flagged.
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  Speaker 11: That's now past the Parliament. So there's essentially no reason
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  Speaker 11: why Home Affairs can't get on with it now and
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  Speaker 11: try and speed up these visas to get people to.
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  Speaker 2: Naru and five weeks break. The PM said his wedding
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  Speaker 2: date was not far away. What do you reckon it
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  Speaker 2: might be a September October wedding.
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  Speaker 11: Well, the only complicating factor to that, Peter was he's
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  Speaker 11: got a lot of trips coming up overseas. I think
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  Speaker 11: there's a potential of six more trips before the end
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  Speaker 11: of the year. The UN General Assembly trip is coming
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  Speaker 11: up in the middle of this month is also expected,
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  Speaker 11: I think to go to the UK. That was reported
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  Speaker 11: today in the nine newspapers off the back of the
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  Speaker 11: New York trips. So unless they're planning a New York wedding,
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  Speaker 11: which I don't think they are. I think I've always
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  Speaker 11: thought my money was on a Christmas break wedding.
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  Speaker 3: But let's see, we will see.
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  Speaker 2: You might be getting there honeymoon thrown in on the
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  Speaker 2: taxpayer as well, who knows, Trudy. I'll leave it there
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  Speaker 2: all right, lots of other issues to get across and
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  Speaker 2: joinment now journalist at the Daily Telegraph, James Willis, the
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  Speaker 2: Sky News contributor Carroll, the CAATs and Barnas, Let's go
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  Speaker 2: straight to Darue because I think that's extraordinary.
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  Speaker 3: We've now seen the quantum.
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  Speaker 2: Truty makes a point that i'd have to take one
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  Speaker 2: person before the money starts to flow. And over a
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  Speaker 2: thirty year period, James, it's two point five billion dollars
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  Speaker 2: to mop up a miss of Labour's own making.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, and Peter, welcome back Mats was never my strong point,
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  Speaker 13: but I think about seven million dollars for every one
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  Speaker 13: of these criminals that were released into the community when
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  Speaker 13: labor basically got caught short when the High Court ruled
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  Speaker 13: that they should be released immediately, and suddenly you had
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  Speaker 13: all these violent offenders into the community at once. You
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  Speaker 13: had state authorities trying to respond, you had people go missing,
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  Speaker 13: you had people reoffend, and all largely off the back
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  Speaker 13: of you know, someone that wasn't up to the job
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  Speaker 13: as minister as the time in both O'Neil and Giles
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  Speaker 13: who have since been moved on to other roles. But
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  Speaker 13: it's a crazy amount of money. And if the caveat
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  Speaker 13: is that NARU never has to actually take anyone, well
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  Speaker 13: then what are we actually paying the money for. If
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  Speaker 13: it's for a treaty, I'll tell you what, it's a
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  Speaker 13: one way treaty. He doesn't sound like value for money
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  Speaker 13: to meet.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go back to Dan Andrews CAROLEI, because you and
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  Speaker 2: I both listened to a lot of radio in the
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  Speaker 2: morning throughout the day, and it wasn't just Victorians who
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  Speaker 2: were screaming into the fire and into Talk Bake. It
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  Speaker 2: was across the country people really just not just angry
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  Speaker 2: but just dismayed to see a former politician out a
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  Speaker 2: military parade like that. There was a statement put out
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  Speaker 2: by just Cinter Allen saying she thought it was very
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  Speaker 2: good for Victoria that Daniel Andrews is held in such
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  Speaker 2: high regard by the Chinese.
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  Speaker 3: She said it was very good.
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  Speaker 2: Of course she's about to head off to China herself.
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  Speaker 2: I can't see that she would criticize it. But to
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  Speaker 2: give me your taken all of this, he's a bit
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  Speaker 2: of a useful idiot for Beijing.
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  Speaker 3: Is mine.
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  Speaker 14: Definitely, Peter, welcome back. Good to see on great shows
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  Speaker 14: this week as always. Look, you're quite right, I mean,
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  Speaker 14: just to Allan has said that, but you've got you know,
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  Speaker 14: former Victorian Premier Dan Andrews standing up on the world
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  Speaker 14: stage on the dias overlooking all those missiles and the
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  Speaker 14: image is just not good.
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  Speaker 3: Everyone has said.
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  Speaker 14: What on earth was in his mind?
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  Speaker 3: As well?
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  Speaker 14: Also it puts it very very difficult that he's up
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  Speaker 14: there with some of the world's most evil leaders in
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  Speaker 14: justinto Alan's mind, What on earth can she think actually
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  Speaker 14: looks good with this? You know? And I know that
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  Speaker 14: I guess Alban easy and Justina Allen being able to
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  Speaker 14: criticize Dan Andrews is a little bit like Jijing Pin
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  Speaker 14: criticizing Mantzi Doung it isn't going to happen. But you've
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  Speaker 14: rightly pointed out all this week the Belt and Road
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  Speaker 14: Initiative that the album that the Morrison government had to
• 19:20
  Speaker 14: actually rip up. What I will say is that the
• 19:23
  Speaker 14: Belt and Road Initiative may be ripped up. We've got
• 19:26
  Speaker 14: the suburban rail loop happening in Victoria at the moment,
• 19:29
  Speaker 14: the loop to nowhere thirty five billion dollars needed for
• 19:32
  Speaker 14: this small bit of rail line. Is it going out
• 19:35
  Speaker 14: too far to say maybe it'll be the Belt and
• 19:38
  Speaker 14: Rail initiative because where are the billions going to actually
• 19:41
  Speaker 14: come from? And the whole suburban rail loops estimated a
• 19:45
  Speaker 14: cost about one hundred and twenty billion dollars over the
• 19:48
  Speaker 14: next fifty years. You know, Dan Andrews, if he as
• 19:51
  Speaker 14: a private citizen, why does he give these interviews saying
• 19:54
  Speaker 14: we who's he actually representing? The other thing is he's
• 19:58
  Speaker 14: up there on that stage missiles going by. They may
• 20:02
  Speaker 14: well be fired at Australia or America one day. And
• 20:05
  Speaker 14: as you say, he's shown his true colors. It is
• 20:08
  Speaker 14: wrong in so many ways. And I alwayso think of
• 20:12
  Speaker 14: you know, the Ukrainian a Ukraine is an ally of ours.
• 20:15
  Speaker 14: We're actually on the side of trying to help a
• 20:17
  Speaker 14: democratic country, and yet he's up there with a mixed
• 20:21
  Speaker 14: message as well with North Korea and Russia.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: The lines are all blurred.
• 20:25
  Speaker 14: What about the Victorian and the Australian families thirty eight
• 20:28
  Speaker 14: Australians killed with MH seventeen does he think of that?
• 20:32
  Speaker 14: And I find it really offensive that Albert that you know,
• 20:35
  Speaker 14: the Prime Minister is said or ten years ago the
• 20:37
  Speaker 14: Coalition Center representative, as you rightly pointed out today, the
• 20:41
  Speaker 14: world was very different in twenty fifteen, incredibly different, different optics.
• 20:45
  Speaker 14: But this is just disgraceful and Dictator Dan shown as
• 20:49
  Speaker 14: true colours.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I don't, you know, expect him to be honest.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: You never was when he was around, and we live
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: through those lockdowns in Victoria as we all remember. I
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: got to tell you what the Prime Minister's line that
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: he's got this deniability because he's a private citizen.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: I don't bother it at all.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: And I'll come back to that with Tony Abbit a
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: bit later on James, A shocking story in your paper today.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: There's been an order.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: Done the watchdog that was set up to protect everybody
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: in and around the ndis not least of all poor
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: old taxpayers. Well, it's forced to admit that it's only
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: looking at around six percent of the market, or less
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: than ten percent of providers, meaning that ninety percent of
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: them out there, they're not all cowboys. But the watchdog's
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: got no idea, no eyes on that ninety percent.
• 21:36
  Speaker 13: Yeah, Peter, it's crazy. A couple of years ago, someone
• 21:39
  Speaker 13: in the NDS, a very reputable company, the CEO came
• 21:42
  Speaker 13: in and said, Man, I want to show you this.
• 21:44
  Speaker 13: These companies are not breaking the rules, ninety five percent
• 21:47
  Speaker 13: of them because there are no rules. And what you've
• 21:50
  Speaker 13: had is this class war where you've had people that
• 21:52
  Speaker 13: have been required to register to actually show that they're
• 21:55
  Speaker 13: empowering the lives of people with disabilities. They've been audited,
• 21:59
  Speaker 13: they've shown that they're compliant with the scheme, and then
• 22:02
  Speaker 13: you've allowed everyone else to basically run off the books
• 22:05
  Speaker 13: as unregistered providers. Now, some of them, as you say,
• 22:08
  Speaker 13: are very good operators, but some of them literally could
• 22:11
  Speaker 13: be a practice where you and I and CAROLEE get
• 22:14
  Speaker 13: a van tomorrow and say we're going to go to
• 22:16
  Speaker 13: the movies and take kids on the NDIS to the movies.
• 22:19
  Speaker 13: We don't need to show that we're getting results. We
• 22:21
  Speaker 13: don't need to show our books, we don't even need
• 22:23
  Speaker 13: to show that our workers are compliant with a sort
• 22:26
  Speaker 13: of safety checks and all those sort of things. And
• 22:28
  Speaker 13: the NDIS has allowed this to grow to about one
• 22:31
  Speaker 13: hundred and fifty thousand unregistered providers, which is people mowing lawns,
• 22:36
  Speaker 13: doing lego therapy, people taking bushwalks, caravaning, skiing, And you
• 22:41
  Speaker 13: start to realize why this scheme is blown out so much,
• 22:44
  Speaker 13: but critically without that oversight and allowing people to opt
• 22:48
  Speaker 13: in or opt out if they want to register or
• 22:50
  Speaker 13: unregister in the scheme, well, then a lot of people
• 22:53
  Speaker 13: have just had free rein. And when you add all
• 22:55
  Speaker 13: that up, plus also some of the inconsistencies with packages,
• 22:59
  Speaker 13: it's not means tested as well. And also the scheme
• 23:03
  Speaker 13: was designed Peter to ultimately empower people with disabilities to
• 23:08
  Speaker 13: get back into the workforce, to contribute as much as
• 23:10
  Speaker 13: possible to society and effectively move off government benefits long term.
• 23:15
  Speaker 13: That hasn't happened either. So you start to add all
• 23:17
  Speaker 13: these things up and you realize why this is costing.
• 23:20
  Speaker 13: It is the greatest cost of the budget in terms
• 23:22
  Speaker 13: of growth over the last few years.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Keep your eyes on it, James. I just want to
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: touch on quickly before we go, just Enterprise still fighting
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: hard about the flag, certainly not backing down today, But
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: earlier this morning, my colleague Pete Stepanovic he actually pointed
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: out that Sarah Hanson Young has form here given her
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: history of using props.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Now he put this to her, Let's listen, there we go, folks.
• 23:49
  Speaker 11: Sarah, did you take any issue with Jasinda's display of
• 23:52
  Speaker 11: our national flag on Flag Day?
• 23:55
  Speaker 15: Well, look, Pete, I love a prop as much as
• 23:58
  Speaker 15: the next person or the next MP or senator. You know,
• 24:02
  Speaker 15: I'm a big you know I understand the power of
• 24:06
  Speaker 15: using a prop. They are, however, against the standing orders.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: Interesting Karli.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: She condemned people who were marching who have held up
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: the Australian flag in a march for a cause that
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: she doesn't agree with. But then Pete put it to her, well,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: what about people the Palestinian marches burning the Australian flag
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: or having other flags that are offensive? She wouldn't go
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: there and condemn that either. So one rule for the
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Greens and one rule for everyone else.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Definitely and certainly not good.
• 24:38
  Speaker 14: And she's quite happy to take the salary, isn't she
• 24:40
  Speaker 14: meant to be an Australian Member of Parliament representing everybody
• 24:44
  Speaker 14: double standards as always by the Greens.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: All right, we'll leave it there, thank you both. Let's
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: go now.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: I'm back to the Daniel Anders issue because it's running
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: right through the Labor Party like wildfire. Not just that
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: he was there at a military parade. Now was she
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: with trade a butt a military parade? But it's who
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: he stood next to, the Russian and the North Korean dictators,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: amongst others, joined me in Our former Labor MP Michael Danby, Well, mate,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: you have been a labor man your entire life. Give
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: me your take on what you saw this week.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: This is the lowest point of any labor figure in
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: international politics. I can't think of anything will disgraceful and
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: just stand there next to the blood soak Vladimir Putin,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: next to Kim Jong un, who jails even grandchildren of
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: people he incarcerates, and of course to stand there at
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: a missile parade like you're at the Dais in Moscow
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: at the height of Stalin of these huge new missiles
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: that Greeg Sheridan pointed out in the Australian are at
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the size of busses, carrier busters, how could this be
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: good for Australia. No wonder he got bagged even by
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: the left wing Age on its front page. And Peter,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: what's going on when the Age describes him as dictated Dan?
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I mean this is this is a terrible thing for him,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: but mostly it's a terrible thing for Australia, and cars
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: not much better. He just was smart enough not to
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: get him so photographed with g.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Well, whye enders a prime minister stand up and question
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: time and insult our intelligence and say he's there as
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: a private citizen because you and I know when he
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: can send the ambassador away, which which presumably the Australian
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: government did. And that's the deniability. But when the best mate,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: former flatmate, a campaign insider, and he was in the
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: recent election campaign, is there, you basically got better than
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: an ambassador. You're almost got a minister, a deputy prime
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: minister if I can call it that, certainly a big
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: time labor heavyweight there. So you know the PMS god
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: is cake and eating it too.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: The Chinese communists would be very aware of how close
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: the two of them are, and in fact, when the
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: long history of Australia has written, those two are responsible
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: for the socialist left taking over the Labor Party from
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: the beginning of COVID when people's rights to vote as
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Labor members in pre selections was abolished at the beginning
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen, with the Elbow acting as an enforcer
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: from the National Executive. So it's a terrible look. It
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: shows you how far the debate has gone on Australia.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: It's nice for the seven point thirty report to run
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: a mildly critical question of Bob Carr, but it just
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: shows you how far things have drifted. And the main
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: thing is to understand what that military parade was. That
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: was an assertion by China with every dictator it could
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: gather and some dupes like car and Andrews, to show
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: that it is the military power in the world and
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: more powerful than the United States. It's not true, but
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: they are very dangerous and what Australia needs to be
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: very wise in order to avoid will you have to
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: be properly defended, and we need to increase our defense
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: budget to three percent.
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: That's the best answer to that.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Parade, and the best answer to ignoring Bob Carr and
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Dan Andrews is by the mainstream Australian people getting up
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: and doing something about it, including forcing our elbow to
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: increase our defense expenditures.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: So where we go with that?
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Michael Danby All right after the Ratmore and
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: the alleged cover up over the planned repatriation of those
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: is Lamic State women with Tony Abbott, you know as
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: a favorite about Islamic State, plus a bit later on
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: AFL Premiership coach the wonderful and the warrior Mick malt
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: House who took on some thugs who tried to break
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: into his home. Welcome back, still the carmeaf allegend Mick
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: mault House on that shocking home invasion. He fought back
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: and he's going to tell us what needs to change
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: in Victoria, not at least the government. The first joining
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: me in our former Prime Minister Tony Abbott.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Tony, but welcome to the program. Great to have you
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: on the show.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I want to get in obviously to a whole lot
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: of foreign issues, predominantly, but I want to start with
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Islamic State. You dealt with them when you were the
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: PM so you're the best person in the country to
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: tell us whether or not we should be concerned about
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: the return of these women.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: I hate the term isis brides.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: You and I both know around the world many of
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: these women were combatants. There's children now involved. We're not
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: sure if they're Australian. I think the law's pretty gray.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: The PM has denied that Australia is assisting with the return,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: but New South Wales Police have said that planning is underway.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Tell us your concerns.
• 29:56
  Speaker 16: Well, Peter, thanks for having me. Obviously, the these people
• 30:00
  Speaker 16: who left Australia to join Islamic State, a gruesome, barbarous
• 30:06
  Speaker 16: terrorist group, have effectively rejected our country, its values and
• 30:12
  Speaker 16: our citizenship, and I don't believe they have any moral
• 30:17
  Speaker 16: right to come back now. Plainly, the Prime Minister is
• 30:22
  Speaker 16: being cute with the truth here. He's tried to say
• 30:25
  Speaker 16: that it's not the Australian government bringing them back, but
• 30:29
  Speaker 16: obviously the Australian government is making preparations to have them back,
• 30:34
  Speaker 16: because otherwise there would not be the talks that we
• 30:38
  Speaker 16: were told about today between the Australian Federal Police and
• 30:42
  Speaker 16: New South Wales Police to receive these people.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: If you were back in the Prime Minister's chair, what
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: would you do?
• 30:52
  Speaker 16: They wouldn't be coming back. People who have rejected our
• 30:58
  Speaker 16: country and its value have effectively surrendered their citizenship. And
• 31:05
  Speaker 16: I think you might have made this suggestion last night, Peter.
• 31:08
  Speaker 16: If the Opposition wants to do something constructive in this situation,
• 31:14
  Speaker 16: it could well bring into Parliament private members legislation to
• 31:19
  Speaker 16: strip Australian citizenship and to strip the right of residency
• 31:24
  Speaker 16: from anyone who leaves this country to join a declared
• 31:29
  Speaker 16: terrorist organization such as Islamic State.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: See a lot of the media have been running around
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: saying we have to take them back because these children
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: are Australians and children in nothing wrong.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: They're not Australians.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: We don't have citizenship by dissent in a way that
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: some countries do, do we And of course they've been
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: out of the country, many of them for a decade
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: or more. They could be young, or young adults or
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: late teenagers. God knows how they have been because we
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: haven't got officials on the ground.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: Have we.
• 32:05
  Speaker 16: Exactly right?
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: Exactly right?
• 32:07
  Speaker 16: Look, people should only be coming into our country if
• 32:13
  Speaker 16: it serves Australia's national interest. And I don't see how
• 32:18
  Speaker 16: it can possibly serve Australia's national interest to bring into
• 32:23
  Speaker 16: this country people who have demonstrated by their life, by
• 32:27
  Speaker 16: their action, that they completely reject Australian values, and when
• 32:31
  Speaker 16: there's not the slightest bit of art evidence that they've
• 32:34
  Speaker 16: recandid any of the apocalyptic Islamist beliefs that took them
• 32:40
  Speaker 16: to join this murderous death cult in the first place.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: I'll get to Daniel Andras in a minute. I want
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: to go specific comment from you about the Foreign Register
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: of Influence, but broadly step back the scale of that parade,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: the hardware on display. The commentary from this was less
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: about China's honoring of the Second World War victory, not
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: that it was their victory, and I'm sure you'll.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Say that, but but more about.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: The message they're trying to send the rest of the world,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Wasn't it.
• 33:17
  Speaker 8: Correct?
• 33:18
  Speaker 16: This parade is not about the past, It's about the
• 33:21
  Speaker 16: present and the future. It's an attempt to buy the
• 33:24
  Speaker 16: Chinese communist regime to intimidate.
• 33:28
  Speaker 8: The wider world.
• 33:28
  Speaker 16: And let's make no mistake, Peter, A communist China is
• 33:32
  Speaker 16: set on global domination and a world dominated by China
• 33:39
  Speaker 16: will resemble China. It'll be a much different and much
• 33:44
  Speaker 16: harsher world than the world we've enjoyed for the last
• 33:47
  Speaker 16: seventy years, which has been dominated by the United States. Now,
• 33:51
  Speaker 16: whatever the United States faults, it's a free and democratic
• 33:56
  Speaker 16: society and that's why under the long as Americana, the
• 34:02
  Speaker 16: whole world has got better. That certainly won't be the
• 34:05
  Speaker 16: case if we ever have a Chinese dominated world.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: How to look at the Register of Foreign Interests, I
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: know that you're on it when you were doing free
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: work for the UK government on trade.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: I was surprised to see.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Daniel Andrews, who reportedly is making millions of the China relationship,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: he's not on the register.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Does that strike you as bizarre?
• 34:31
  Speaker 16: Well, I really wonder what's the point of this register
• 34:34
  Speaker 16: if it doesn't capture people of significance and influence who
• 34:40
  Speaker 16: are effectively working for our challenges and competitors. And if
• 34:46
  Speaker 16: Australia does have a strategic competitor right now, the biggest
• 34:51
  Speaker 16: and the most serious is undeniably the People's Republic of China.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: John Howard is issued to join statement with former Foreign
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Minister Alexander Downer accusing Labor of betraying international law putting
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: for a Palestinian state to be recognized at the UN
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: in the next few weeks. I mean, give me your
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: take on that, Tony.
• 35:15
  Speaker 17: Well.
• 35:15
  Speaker 16: Plainly, John Howard and Alexander Downer would only have issued
• 35:19
  Speaker 16: this statement if they thought the situation was very serious.
• 35:24
  Speaker 16: Equally plainly, under the current government, Australia is quite drastically
• 35:29
  Speaker 16: changing the position that we have historically had under both
• 35:34
  Speaker 16: Coalition and Labor governments. It was Bob Hawk, after all,
• 35:38
  Speaker 16: who said, if the bell tolls for Israel, it doesn't
• 35:41
  Speaker 16: just toll for Israel, it tolls for all mankind. It
• 35:46
  Speaker 16: was Bob Hawk who was a very staunch supporter of
• 35:50
  Speaker 16: the US Alliance. Under the current Labor government, we are
• 35:55
  Speaker 16: essentially adopting a position of neutrality between China and the
• 36:00
  Speaker 16: United States, or that's certainly how it looks right now,
• 36:04
  Speaker 16: and we're certainly tilting very much towards Palestine and against
• 36:09
  Speaker 16: the only liberal democracy in the Middle East. I think
• 36:13
  Speaker 16: people need to be aware of just how much our
• 36:16
  Speaker 16: global stance is changing and changing I think for the
• 36:20
  Speaker 16: worse under this current government.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: I'll come back and talk to you next week.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: I think about the flag and these freedom rallies because
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're going away, and I'm pleased to
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: see behind you on the shelf you've got a nassy
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: flag and just one flag, but I'll leave it there,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Tony Abbott, thank you now after the breaker spray at
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: authorities today from an AFL coaching legend who bought off attackers,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: armed attackers trying to break into his home overnight.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Mc moultouse.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: This as Victorians are sick to the back teeth of crime.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Carmel Cross life to London. The
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: government there ramps up its crackdown on free speech, which
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: is headed to Australia for first Every day Victorians are
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: being impacted by the state's crime crisis. Well, one of
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: the latest people to be subjected to an alleged home
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: invasion is a face that almost every Australian will recognize,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: and that's the AFL legend Mick Bulltouse. Mcmulltouse, the warrior
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: I'll get to at the moment, joins me. Now, Well,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: they tried to break into your home, Mick. They were armed,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: you fought back, you won.
• 37:32
  Speaker 17: Tell us what happened, hello, pleete if I did win.
• 37:39
  Speaker 17: I just I guess there's small wins, and one is
• 37:42
  Speaker 17: they didn't get in the house. That was the main thing.
• 37:45
  Speaker 17: A little lesson for people at my age. I'll throw
• 37:48
  Speaker 17: this in if you haven't had your shingles vaccination, have it,
• 37:52
  Speaker 17: because that I was awake this in the seventh week,
• 37:56
  Speaker 17: so therefore it wasn't sleeping, and probably we sleep pretty well,
• 38:00
  Speaker 17: so I may not have heard them coming, but so
• 38:03
  Speaker 17: the noise was enough to just make me a little
• 38:07
  Speaker 17: bit suspicious that someone was trying to break in, and.
• 38:12
  Speaker 8: They were, so we.
• 38:14
  Speaker 17: Sort of confronted each other at the door that led
• 38:17
  Speaker 17: into our house and into our apartment and a little
• 38:21
  Speaker 17: running battle from there.
• 38:22
  Speaker 8: But down the stairs.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: And how many people we're talking about here?
• 38:30
  Speaker 8: There was three young bokes.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: And could you see any weapons?
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: If you've got any sort of ability to identify, then
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: what's the police had to say?
• 38:44
  Speaker 17: Well, the police for a start off were absolutely outstanding.
• 38:47
  Speaker 17: They were just amazing, not only getting there, and we
• 38:53
  Speaker 17: spent some time together and the next morning and even
• 38:57
  Speaker 17: towards lunchtime today. So the police are outstanding, undermanned, but terrific.
• 39:03
  Speaker 17: I knew there was a well I thought it's too
• 39:07
  Speaker 17: late the night, but it was the cleaner there, and
• 39:10
  Speaker 17: so I saw something raised above this guy's head and
• 39:15
  Speaker 17: I didn't realize at the time it was a crowbar.
• 39:17
  Speaker 17: I thought it might have been a mop. Then I
• 39:18
  Speaker 17: realized it certainly wasn't the cleaner, because he clunked it
• 39:21
  Speaker 17: down on my arm, and then we had I called
• 39:27
  Speaker 17: for Danet to make sure she rang the police, and
• 39:30
  Speaker 17: by that stage they were starting to move down into
• 39:33
  Speaker 17: another area, and then we had our little confrontation to,
• 39:38
  Speaker 17: you know, try to get him out of the joint,
• 39:40
  Speaker 17: which successfully we did. I did, and it would have
• 39:47
  Speaker 17: been handed to have another couple there, but I think
• 39:50
  Speaker 17: in the end they were more keen to get out, and.
• 39:52
  Speaker 8: So it sort of it met my criteria of getting
• 39:55
  Speaker 8: them out.
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  Speaker 2: You prettybody understand and think there's three of them, but
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: they're young. They had a crowbar. I mean, how are
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: you doing? I mean, I imagine you and they're shaken up.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: You said you got to work with the crowbar.
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: How are you doing.
• 40:13
  Speaker 17: On there?
• 40:14
  Speaker 8: It's very upset. She was really quite affected her badly.
• 40:20
  Speaker 8: I guess the adrenaline was public. Look, the one had
• 40:22
  Speaker 8: a screwdriver. He jabbed it into my chest.
• 40:25
  Speaker 17: Not deep enough to deep enough to cook a bit
• 40:27
  Speaker 17: of blood, but outside of that, it wasn't deep enough
• 40:29
  Speaker 17: to go too deep. So he was one I had
• 40:32
  Speaker 17: to look at, and the other bloke with the crowbar,
• 40:35
  Speaker 17: and the third bloke was sort of he was on
• 40:38
  Speaker 17: the peripheral, so it was more just trying to get
• 40:42
  Speaker 17: which I managed to be able to get the crowbar
• 40:44
  Speaker 17: off one of them, and so once I had two weapons,
• 40:49
  Speaker 17: I'd think that was sort.
• 40:50
  Speaker 8: Of I'll see you later, and they bolted. I didn't.
• 40:53
  Speaker 17: I made a big miscillon. You didn't put shoes on,
• 40:55
  Speaker 17: so I couldn't very well chase him down the street.
• 40:58
  Speaker 17: But the fact was then I something in each hand,
• 41:01
  Speaker 17: and I think that was probably enough for them just quickly.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, the police are often telling us that they're
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: young people, their gangs, but they've got accomplices outside with
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: cars that are dropping them off in streets and they
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: just sort of raid houses one after another. Could you
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: see that there are other people involved? Did they leave
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: in a vehicle or do they run off and foot?
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: What can you tell us?
• 41:24
  Speaker 17: No, No, I can't. It's still a policing inquiry, so
• 41:29
  Speaker 17: there's a few things that I can't say. And won't
• 41:31
  Speaker 17: say so, but put this way, there was I didn't
• 41:35
  Speaker 17: see another car. Yeah, and it was very difficult to
• 41:40
  Speaker 17: see who they were because they had had hoodies on
• 41:43
  Speaker 17: and they had face masks and hooks and just over
• 41:47
  Speaker 17: their face, so it was a bit hard.
• 41:49
  Speaker 8: All like the see was really their eyes. So they're
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: well hidden. I'm thinking they had gloves.
• 41:55
  Speaker 17: I'm pretty sure they had gloves and they are so
• 41:58
  Speaker 17: they seem to ignore those things except my door. So
• 42:02
  Speaker 17: I've got a feeling that they they knew what they
• 42:05
  Speaker 17: were going to tell me.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: What's your message to the government, because.
• 42:09
  Speaker 8: That wasn't so scary, then.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: What's your message to.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: The government, because you're now part of Victoria's horrific statistic tally.
• 42:20
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 42:21
  Speaker 17: Look, I've always said, regardless of what it is in life,
• 42:26
  Speaker 17: if you let the small things go, the big things grow.
• 42:29
  Speaker 8: And that's what's happening right now.
• 42:31
  Speaker 17: We've seen the small things ignored and people get away
• 42:35
  Speaker 17: with it, and they're out on a street. Then they
• 42:38
  Speaker 17: commit a bigger crime and they seem to not last
• 42:40
  Speaker 17: too long than another crime and we and all of
• 42:43
  Speaker 17: a sudden, our standards go from what we expected get
• 42:47
  Speaker 17: lower and lower. We're a bit like the frog in
• 42:49
  Speaker 17: the water. In the hot water, you boil it up.
• 42:52
  Speaker 17: We're just we're accepting far too many things now at
• 42:56
  Speaker 17: crisis point, and a police I feel so sorry for
• 42:59
  Speaker 17: the police.
• 43:00
  Speaker 8: They do the arresting.
• 43:01
  Speaker 17: And they look around the corner and the same people
• 43:04
  Speaker 17: are out there the next day.
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: We need good.
• 43:08
  Speaker 17: Laws, we need a judiciary that's actually up with what
• 43:12
  Speaker 17: the public need, and we need a government to govern correctly.
• 43:16
  Speaker 17: At the moment, they're wopeful and they're allowing these things
• 43:21
  Speaker 17: to take place because we just don't have the methods
• 43:26
  Speaker 17: in front of us that can do something about these people.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I'm listening to you, McK maltause and hoping and praying
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: you might be considering a tilted politics. Can we interest
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: you in running and fixing the mess that is Victoria?
• 43:44
  Speaker 8: Well, I've put on seventy two.
• 43:46
  Speaker 17: I'm not sure I've got many good years left that
• 43:49
  Speaker 17: I can contribute to.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Put it that way, I don't believe you're pretty handy
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: with a crowbar beating off three assailants.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: But we'll leave it there.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: I'll see if I can tempt you over coffee one day.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining me. All the best
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: to Annette, and I hope you can at least get
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: some sleep. And I know it won't be easy though,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: to worry the hell out of me too. Thanks Mick.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: All Right, after the break, the Robbert hits the road
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: in the UK, controversial disinformation laws, some high profile arrests,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: there's a bit clammed down on free speech that's headed
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: to Australia.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Welcome back.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Now let's get into the Mountain free speech controversy which
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: is playing out in the UK. Who better just to
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: discuss it than our Sky News contributor news Core European
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: correspondent Sophie Ellsworth. So welcome to the program. Last night
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: I spoke to Toby Young, who as you know, is
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Lord Young is in the House of Lords now but
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: he's on his way to Australia. He is a huge
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: advocate for free speech. He took many of us through
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: the misinformation disinformation laws and how they're playing out there.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: But you've had a high profile arrest father tiered a
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: comedian over comments on social media about transgender issues.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: This is worrying. What can you tell us, well.
• 45:09
  Speaker 18: It is indeed worrying, Peter.
• 45:10
  Speaker 19: I'm outside Westminston Magistrate's Court where the Irish comedian is
• 45:14
  Speaker 19: today before the court room on another matter relating over
• 45:19
  Speaker 19: social media tweets he made about a transgender woman. But
• 45:24
  Speaker 19: the father, Ted comedian was arrested at he Throw airport
• 45:27
  Speaker 19: earlier this week but several tweets that he made Peter
• 45:31
  Speaker 19: way back in Afully.
• 45:33
  Speaker 18: He was arrested by five police at he Throw Airport.
• 45:37
  Speaker 19: The headlines here every day in the UK are very
• 45:41
  Speaker 19: concerning over this what appears to be targeting free speech
• 45:46
  Speaker 19: and we've seen this several.
• 45:48
  Speaker 18: Times where there's been high profile arrests here in the UK.
• 45:51
  Speaker 19: There was also another mother, Lucy Connelly, who was arrested
• 45:55
  Speaker 19: over tweets she made in relation to the Southport murders
• 45:58
  Speaker 19: last Year's spant months behind jails. So this seems to
• 46:02
  Speaker 19: be an attack on free speech, Peter, and something that's
• 46:06
  Speaker 19: incredibly concerning for many people in Britain right now.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: What are BRIT's making of this, because I mean everyone
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: I know in London has lost a phone in recent
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: weeks and months. You know, knife crime is huge. Sure
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: that there's better things for the police to be wasting
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: their time or spending their time on that arresting someone
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: over comments they make on social media, Peter.
• 46:32
  Speaker 18: It is concerning because it appears in London.
• 46:35
  Speaker 19: A lot of the commentary here is that there is
• 46:38
  Speaker 19: not enough police. They're not focusing on the real crime
• 46:41
  Speaker 19: that is impacting the population. The theft here is unbelievable.
• 46:46
  Speaker 19: Phone crime in London is soaring. There's tens of thousands
• 46:50
  Speaker 19: of phone crimes every year. Knife crime here.
• 46:53
  Speaker 18: Is also huge.
• 46:55
  Speaker 19: There's definitely a sense of uneasy when you're in London,
• 47:00
  Speaker 19: moment going to get robbed. We hear these stories day
• 47:03
  Speaker 19: in day out, So seems to me that the police
• 47:08
  Speaker 19: are focusing their resources on what people are writing on
• 47:11
  Speaker 19: social media as opposed to focusing on the prime that
• 47:15
  Speaker 19: is happening on the streets here in London, Peter. Just
• 47:18
  Speaker 19: a few days ago I witnessed a bag snatch.
• 47:21
  Speaker 18: Right before my eyes. Someone just walked into a restaurant,
• 47:24
  Speaker 18: snatched the bag and walked out.
• 47:26
  Speaker 19: It's just happening here, day in day out, and you'd
• 47:29
  Speaker 19: be very unusual if you hadn't seen that happen before
• 47:32
  Speaker 19: your own eyes here in the UK.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: And of course what the police do is what the
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: government directs them to do. And you've got your Deputy
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Prime Minister there, Angela Rayner.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Just she is in hot water. What's happened there?
• 47:47
  Speaker 18: She absolutely is, Peter.
• 47:49
  Speaker 19: I mean she's pinned to be possibly the replacement when
• 47:52
  Speaker 19: Kiirs Starmer eventually is tossed out. She's been seems not
• 47:58
  Speaker 19: paying the right stamp duty when she just a new
• 48:00
  Speaker 19: property south of London in Hoes, and now she has
• 48:04
  Speaker 19: referred herself to the ethics investigator here in the UK.
• 48:09
  Speaker 19: This is extremely damaging for the Labor Party. Her career
• 48:13
  Speaker 19: is in turmoil and this is just what Sakia Starma
• 48:17
  Speaker 19: does not need right now, Peter, particularly when Reform UK
• 48:21
  Speaker 19: are absolutely dominating in the polls. Nigel Faraj has all
• 48:25
  Speaker 19: the momentum and Labor and the Conservatives are no doubt
• 48:29
  Speaker 19: falling behind Reform UK. Who's continuing the parties continuing to
• 48:34
  Speaker 19: gain popularity here in the UK.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: Well as bad Asda Marie is.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: I think Rayna would be absolutely diabolically worse. So I
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: think that's probably a small mercy for everyone concerned. We'll
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: see what happens. So if I'll catch up with you
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: again soon, that's it for me.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: First week back. Great to be back.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: I've loved your company. Up next to James McPherson with
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: the Bolt Report