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#707 - Earn Your Leisure on Investing, The Economy, Drake’s Impact, AI & The Future of Education · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: very legendary 2026 already. Earn Your Leisure Fest, or Invest Fest, rather,
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  Speaker 3: Appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, man. The Earn Your Leisure guys, Rashad and Choi,
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  Speaker 1: are in the building. Welcome back to the show. We back.
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  Speaker 1: We back. We back. What was your take? Obviously, you
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  Speaker 1: guys have thrown your own convention, if you will. We're
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  Speaker 1: out here for ComplexCon. I mean, ComplexCon is interesting because
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  Speaker 1: it feels like you're walking around inside of the internet.
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  Speaker 1: What was y'all's take on ComplexCon?
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  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I think that's a good way to
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  Speaker 3: summarize it. Felt like we were in Wreck-It Ralph.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, oh shit, that's that dude who... Yeah, that peak. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like I know, I've seen this guy's face. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: everyone's streaming on their galaxies.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we got caught in a few live streams.
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  Speaker 2: It was interesting.
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  Speaker 3: It's the first time I've seen the streaming culture in person.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And so many of them there at the same time
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  Speaker 3: doing it live. A lot of fashion. A lot of
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  Speaker 3: young people. A lot of young energy.
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  Speaker 1: For sure.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it has all the things, right?
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  Speaker 1: It has clothes.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously, it has food, sneakers, which is a big thing.
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  Speaker 3: But it's a lot of people. It's not easy to
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  Speaker 3: put on an event that size. And they managed to
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  Speaker 3: do it at a large scale, man. It was impressive
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  Speaker 3: to see.
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  Speaker 2: I think what it really highlights is we live in
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  Speaker 2: the multiverse. And what I mean by that is everybody's
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  Speaker 2: algorithm determines what world you actually live in. And we
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  Speaker 2: live in multiple parallel worlds simultaneously.
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  Speaker 1: All at the same time, man.
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  Speaker 2: There's some level of crossover, but there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: not crossover at all. I'm not tapped into that world
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  Speaker 2: too much. I've been to ComplexCon one time, but this
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  Speaker 2: is the first time I actually realized what ComplexCon was
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  Speaker 2: actually for. Street fashion. I didn't know what it was
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  Speaker 2: for before. I'd just seen it on Instagram. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: know what it was for. It's for fashion. Then they
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  Speaker 2: just infuse music into it. I say I have to say,
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  Speaker 2: like what we do, InvestFest, right? Huge event. 30,000 people.
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  Speaker 2: It's different as far as it's education-based. It's panels. This
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  Speaker 2: is more of a vendor marketplace as far as ComplexCon
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  Speaker 2: is concerned. It's like a trade show for fashion. But
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  Speaker 2: The people that's at ComplexCon, probably 85% of them are
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  Speaker 2: not in our ecosystem at all.
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  Speaker 3: For sure.
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  Speaker 2: And the people at our event, probably 80% of them
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  Speaker 2: are not in ComplexCon ecosystem at all. So this is
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  Speaker 2: really like shows you how come the world is so divided.
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  Speaker 2: Because previously you kind of had to see things like
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  Speaker 2: maybe just on television or in a newspaper. But now
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  Speaker 2: we're living in a world, we're living on our phones.
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  Speaker 2: So now the only thing, like if people come to InvestFest,
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  Speaker 2: they're in that ecosystem. And that's like primarily what they're
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  Speaker 2: focused on. People come to ComplexCon, they're in that ecosystem.
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  Speaker 2: That's primarily what they're focused on.
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  Speaker 1: Like the Venn diagram crosses, but it crosses a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit. You know what you see a
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  Speaker 3: lot of, and we kind of witnessed it yesterday, is
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  Speaker 3: that there's a lot of brands there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And there was at least five or six that were like,
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  Speaker 3: I started my business after I was watching your show.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: So they saw somebody come on. They saw somebody give pointers.
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  Speaker 3: They heard us talk about investing and they raised the
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  Speaker 3: capital to start some of these brands. And so there's
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  Speaker 3: that because business is at the.
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  Speaker 2: Root of it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like everybody's here trying to promote their business, trying
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  Speaker 3: to show what their business has going. And they're doing
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  Speaker 3: it to a specific demographic, which is it's pretty interesting
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  Speaker 3: to watch. But the thing is, like, how do we
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  Speaker 3: how do we blend that? We were having this conversation yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: How do we, you know, cross pollinate that?
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  Speaker 1: That young demographic. Just book Playboy Cartier.
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  Speaker 2: But it's also good to go to different, you got
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  Speaker 2: to visit different algorithms. Like you got to visit different,
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  Speaker 2: it's like going on vacation. You got to visit different,
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  Speaker 2: like you go on vacation, you see different things, it
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  Speaker 2: opens your horizon, right? Like when I went to China,
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  Speaker 2: I learned so much culturally. I learned about food. I
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  Speaker 2: learned about like, I would have never knew any of
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  Speaker 2: that if I didn't physically go there. And the same
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  Speaker 2: thing with Thailand, the same thing with Europe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like we're only, especially a place like China,
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  Speaker 1: you just kind of assume like whatever you're told. Until
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  Speaker 1: you go there. Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Or you don't even think about it at all.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I say that to say, we got to start actually
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  Speaker 2: visiting alternative algorithms.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Like in real life and on your phone too. You
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  Speaker 2: can actually do that on your phone. There's a way
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  Speaker 2: to go about that. But in real life, right, go
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  Speaker 2: to things that you have no idea about and experience
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  Speaker 2: different people and what is going on because it's going
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  Speaker 2: to give you a different perspective. It's going to give
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  Speaker 2: you ideas. It's going to motivate you. It's going to
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  Speaker 2: give you some some things that you're not thinking about
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  Speaker 2: because you're only in your world.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because, like, I just got into, kind
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  Speaker 1: of into sports cards. But now that I'm, like, kind
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  Speaker 1: of into sports cards.
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  Speaker 3: I'm into that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so now, like, my Instagram account, I'm, like, discovering
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  Speaker 1: all these, like, content creators who are in that world.
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  Speaker 2: That you would have never knew before.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: That has, like, 500,000 followers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and, like, I'm like, oh, shit, there's a YouTube channel, like.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And it's huge.
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  Speaker 2: Three million followers.
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  Speaker 1: And I didn't even know it existed up to, like,
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  Speaker 1: three months ago.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah crazy so you're you're in it i'm super in
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  Speaker 4: it so what's your prize uh oh so my prize
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  Speaker 4: prior to like i just i just recently got sports
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  Speaker 4: cards or sports okay no not although pokemon is pretty
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  Speaker 4: profitable um so i do nba i do uh nfl
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  Speaker 4: yeah uh i got a uh jayden daniels like uh
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  Speaker 4: prison like.
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  Speaker 1: A 10 and hope he stops getting fucking broken on this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah i just i was looking at i had a
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  Speaker 3: win beyond but um i actually sold it back to
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  Speaker 3: the store bad move i was trying to get a
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't rated at a 10 you know if it's
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  Speaker 3: not rated gen 10 then the value was in the
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  Speaker 3: team was like at a seven um but every every
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  Speaker 3: month i go to the card store in my neighborhood
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  Speaker 3: and i buy like six boxes oh so you're ripping
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  Speaker 3: oh yeah i'm ripping okay which is a Most people say.
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  Speaker 1: It's like you're playing your game.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so most people say you should just go after
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  Speaker 3: the card you want.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I like the suspense of trying to figure out if
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  Speaker 3: we're going to get something.
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  Speaker 2: It is fun.
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  Speaker 3: And then I buy kids, so when the kids see
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  Speaker 3: me coming in the store, they know that I buy
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  Speaker 3: them a box.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because people who I know have parked
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  Speaker 1: their money in certain cards.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And like you said, my boy is, I would say,
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  Speaker 1: a pretty high-end collector. So he's like, yo, the rip
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  Speaker 1: and pack shit is for the birds. He's like, identify
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  Speaker 1: the cards you want, and if you believe in them,
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  Speaker 1: you buy them, and you just hold them, like a stock. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I did that with, I got an Aaron Judge. This
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  Speaker 3: is crazy.
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  Speaker 1: For sure. Aaron Judge is a kind of guy who,
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  Speaker 1: in 20 years, you would think that card's, he's a Yankee.
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  Speaker 1: He's one of the greatest Yankees of all time, the
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  Speaker 1: face of the franchise for the last decade. Or if
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  Speaker 1: you were to buy a Weminyan, Cooper Cup just had
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  Speaker 1: a rookie card sell for $ 8 million. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Cooper Flack. Cooper Flack, yeah. Cooper Cup. I'm like, damn,
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  Speaker 3: you got that much? I was about to say, man,
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  Speaker 3: no one gives a fuck about you. I've never seen
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  Speaker 3: the card in person. It lives in my phone.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, it's in the vault? Yeah, it's in the vault. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know what that was. It's actually kind of cool. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Are you on Fanatics Collect or are you on PS?
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  Speaker 2: I'm on all.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, on all. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm thinking that they're going to ship it
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  Speaker 3: to me.
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  Speaker 1: You can get it shipped.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 3: I read the- It's kind of convenient. It just stays here, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Because it's easier if you're ever like, I want to
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  Speaker 1: sell this.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly, just go straight to it. Yeah, but it's a
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  Speaker 3: whole world. So, obviously, investing in the market, but trying
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  Speaker 3: to find other collectibles. Cards are something I was collecting
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  Speaker 3: when I was a kid. Well, as you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Know, during COVID, man, I feel like watches boomed. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Sports cards, poker, any of the tangible, finite things started
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  Speaker 1: to crack. Yeah. And, you know, I think watches came
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  Speaker 1: back down a little.
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  Speaker 2: Everything works in cycles.
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  Speaker 1: For sure.
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  Speaker 2: Comic books, cards.
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  Speaker 3: I think those magazines.
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  Speaker 2: Collectibles. Yeah. Like, everything works in cycles, but, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's one of these things, like, if you believe in it,
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  Speaker 2: just stay in a long time. I think people get
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  Speaker 2: hurt when they try to just come in just for
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  Speaker 2: the quick.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah, for the quick nut. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was like my boy was like, look, man, there's
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  Speaker 1: this kid on the Dodgers. He's in the farm system,
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  Speaker 1: but he's about to get called up, and he's got swag.
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  Speaker 1: He's from Brooklyn, this Dominican kid. So I bought, like,
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  Speaker 1: 30 grand worth of his cards, like, three months ago,
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  Speaker 1: and them shits have almost doubled. Yeah. He just made
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  Speaker 1: I do feel like we're in this like interesting space
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  Speaker 1: where We've seen, like, you guys have been talking about
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  Speaker 1: these tech stocks and NVIDIA and, you know, for years
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  Speaker 1: at this point. The war happens. We're in the middle
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: of this war. It feels like we're on the brink of, like,
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  Speaker 1: I think we are kind of in a financial crisis
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  Speaker 1: in terms of just, like, normal everyday things, groceries, gas,
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  Speaker 1: all of that stuff. But I want to say, was
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  Speaker 1: it two weeks ago that there was, like, an all-time
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  Speaker 1: high that just happened with the stock market? Every other week.
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  Speaker 2: Every other week. Every other week is an all-time honor.
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  Speaker 1: But for you guys, like, are you guys still able
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  Speaker 1: to kind of identify opportunities for people to get in? Like,
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  Speaker 1: even though, like, let's say, you know, an everyday person
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  Speaker 1: who's working two full-time jobs to support their kids, it's
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  Speaker 1: worse than ever right now. But there is, it still
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  Speaker 1: feels like there's so much opportunity in the market.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the rich is getting richer at rates.
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  Speaker 2: It's like one of these things, you know, it's the
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  Speaker 2: tale of two economies. At the bottom level, It's getting
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  Speaker 2: harder because college graduates, it's almost impossible to get a
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  Speaker 2: job straight out of college right now. If you have
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: a job, job security is not really there. The income
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  Speaker 2: rates are not going up, but inflation is going up,
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  Speaker 2: and the cost of everything from rent to houses to
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  Speaker 2: gas to groceries is going up dramatically. So it's difficult
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: for people, right? A lot of people. But at the
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  Speaker 2: highest level, stock market at all-time high, real estate is
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  Speaker 2: still booming. So people that have assets, people that have money,
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: and then, of course, the ultra-rich, like, it's unbelievable how
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  Speaker 2: much money is actually getting made in the economy right now.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: But it's concentrated at the top.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it feels like there's been, like, a pattern of, like,
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  Speaker 1: panic happening, shit goes down, some sort of tweet gets
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  Speaker 1: sent out Sunday night from the president, and then Monday
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  Speaker 1: it goes up, and then, like, repeat and rinse. Yeah,
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: so the idea is just... It's called the taco, right?
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  Speaker 1: Is that what they're calling it?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, taco, that one... So that was, you know, when
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  Speaker 3: he says something and, you know, the market actually does
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  Speaker 3: the opposite.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay.
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  Speaker 1: So, like, he'll say something.
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  Speaker 3: And when he used to do it, you saw an
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  Speaker 3: immediate effect. So he'll threaten a country and say, like,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to raise tariffs.
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  Speaker 1: You know what?
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  Speaker 3: Two days later, we're going to extend it. We're going
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  Speaker 3: to extend it out. And so every time that happens,
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  Speaker 3: the likelihood of people actually buying into that idea just means, like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it becomes less and less meaningful if he does
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  Speaker 1: it every day. Four days, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: And with him, you never know. 100%.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's opportunities. And that's the thing. If you're
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  Speaker 3: watching what's happening and AI is at the forefront of
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  Speaker 3: everybody's conversation, then we've got to look at companies inside
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  Speaker 3: of AI where there's opportunities to grow. So like you said,
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  Speaker 3: we talked about NVIDIA, and that's from a compute standpoint, right?
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  Speaker 3: Understanding how AI works, compute, memory, infrastructure. If we look
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  Speaker 3: inside those layers, like we used to– Jensen Wang talks
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  Speaker 3: about a five-layer cake.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 3: If you look at the companies inside those layers, then
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  Speaker 3: you'll see that there's some opportunities. Companies that are relatively priced,
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  Speaker 3: some are overpriced, but we have to see it as opportunity.
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: Most people, when they see fear and panic, they don't act.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: What's that saying? Be greedy when people are fearful and
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: be fearful when people are greedy, right? Absolutely. Absolutely.
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: So the more that there's panic, the more that you
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: hear interest rates are going up, the more that you
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: hear that oil could get to $ 100 a barrel, you
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: would think, I'm not investing money in this market. And
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: then you watch CNBC and you're like, wait, hit it
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: all time high again today. And it hit another all
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: time high again last week. And it kind of doesn't
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: make sense.
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: Like, it's like, there's like, like you kind of said,
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: we're all living in our different worlds. It's like, depending
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: on who you ask, how the economy is going, like,
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: or what you watch.
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: I would say there's the stock market and there's the economy, right?
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: There's the real world and the stock market, which is
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: kind of turned into like a video game, which I
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: kind of always been.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: But even people at the top, they understand like that,
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: you know, people are struggling, not stupid. So they, you know, they,
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: Even them, they understand that the economy is not strong
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: right now. They might be doing well, people making money,
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: but just because you make money doesn't mean that you're.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Blind to what's going on.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: Cautionary tale of this is not sustainable long term. People
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: know what's going on for sure, but like I said,
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: the rich is getting richer and the poor is getting poorer.
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: They talked about that idea. It used to be like
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: the price of eggs are going up. Now you don't
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: hear the price of eggs going up anymore. They've actually
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: come down, but the price of oil has gone up.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: So how many times, how much more does it cost
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: you to get gas than it did to get for
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: you to get eggs?
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: I was, uh, we were at the gas station yesterday
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: and diesel in LA, obviously. So it's relative to the
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: rest of the country, but it was like over eight,
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: it was like eight 50. Yeah, exactly. Mike, that's like a, like,
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: that's insane.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Right. If you're a truck driver, if you're driving to
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: work every day, let me ask you guys.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Cause like, uh, I want to say, is it anthropic?
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: That's IPOing soon. Yeah. They're going to IPO, uh, in
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: the next few months. Um, I think we always kind
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: of see these IPOs shoot up, and then they kind
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: of like, they end up coming down and kind of like,
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: you know, normalizing. But is there ever, like, do you
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: guys feel like getting in, like, first day of an
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: IPO is smart? Or, because I kind of look at
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: it like, if you wake up in the morning, hold
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: that bitch for like three hours, get out, and then
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: let it come back down.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Let it settle down.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let it settle because it happened with SpaceX. It
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: happens with everything. It always happens. Everything shoots through the
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: moon because it's, you know, Anthropic's such a big AI company. But,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: you know, people will get excited and maybe that's the
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: first time they invest.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: It's like a meal. You make a meal with this,
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: whatever you make, right? You cook straight out the oven.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: You can't.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: It's going to burn as soon as you eat it.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: You got to let it just cool off a little bit.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Let it cool off because when it's red hot like that,
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Usually what happens is that it's going to cool off.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: So obviously in the stock market, cooling off means that
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: it's going to come lower. So everybody's excited. Everybody's using
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: their emotion, and they're trying to have FOMO, fear of
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: missing out, and just pile their money in. There's no
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: real rhyme or reason behind it. They just want to
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: just say, I'm the first. I got it on the
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: first day. Then it goes up two days in a row,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: and then just more money keeps coming in. Then once
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: that initial thing kind of wears off and it cools.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Out, People got to realize that there's such a thing
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: as a lock-up period. And so when it IPOs, that
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: means that the average person, the retail investor, can now
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: participate in ownership. But there's people who have owned it
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: up until that point.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they've already been... So as soon as it goes public,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: they're eating. And they might take their shit.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: So that's the lock-up period part. And that's why we
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: always suggest if something IPOs, let's just give it 6
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: to 12 months to see where it's going to settle.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: Because the people who who had it when it was
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: a dollar, now it's in that 100, they've been waiting
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: to sell theirs, right? Maybe they'll say, hey, we'll hold
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: on to some shares, but we're going to let some go.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: So they'll usually put stipulations and you have to hold
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: it until six months. But when it hits six months,
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: let's see what it does. Does it go like 10% down, 20%
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: down when people are now taking profit, right? Or do
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: people say, hey, I believe in this company so much,
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: a la SpaceX, and it starts to ascend after six months.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Now you're like, all right, well, we're going to hold
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: on to this position. So you got to just be
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: mindful of that part.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: For you guys, you guys have been like, so many
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: people's entry point into financial literacy and, you know, building
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: EYL into this brand. And, you know, it's, it's such
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: a juggernaut now, but it's still, I feel like it's
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: still so dope that you guys are still doing market Mondays.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: And I don't feel like, like really anything's changed except
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: for you guys have just gotten a lot more successful
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: and like expanded the brand. But do you guys ever
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: kind of like, cause sometimes when we're living in success,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: you don't really take the time to like reflect or,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Do you guys ever smell the flowers a little bit
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: and be like, damn, we really did this and are
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: doing it?
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: I think for us, it's always been focusing on what's
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: in front of us but what's also ahead. The things
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: that we've done, yeah, it's amazing, but it's never like,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: oh my gosh.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Look at that.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Look what we created because we're very much involved on
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: a day-to-day. Like you said, nothing's really changed. We're still
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: doing that. We're still learning every day. We're still trying
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: to teach people what we've gathered and We're trying to
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: introduce people to new ideas, new ways to think, try
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: to unlearn some other ways. So it's never like a
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: rest on laurels, like, yeah, here's the trophy we did.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: It's like, all right, we did that. This was great.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Here's how we can get better. And so people see that,
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: and they've been on the journey from day one, which
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: makes it even better because there hasn't been a time
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: in history where you watch a company start at a
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: dining room and have this type of ascension and can
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: still see the growth from a domestic standpoint but also
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: from an international standpoint.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: I think, you know, when you look at the greats,
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: they never really had an opportunity to celebrate their wins
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: or get satisfied. That's what separates good people from great people.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I'm just looking at this photo that you got with
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: Kobe and Michael Jordan, and neither one of them, I
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: don't think those are the type of people that said,
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I made it. Did they have fun? Yeah, of course,
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: but they right back in the gym the next day.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: So I remember somebody told me a story about Michael
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Jordan when he was on the Wizards, and they were
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: saying that they were staying in a hotel, and in
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: that hotel, it was like a lifetime like you know
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: one of these gyms right so they had a basketball
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: court in the hotel and word got out that michael
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: jordan trains there in the morning time so the guy
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: was with his son obviously you know they big michael
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: jordan's fan so they like look if you get there
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: early enough you could actually see him or maybe see
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: him leave so He's like, I'm going to get there
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: first thing in the morning, like, you know, Michael Jordan.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: So he got to get there before anybody else gets there, obviously.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: So he was there at 7 o'clock in the morning.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: And he had waited. He had his son, and they
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: were just waiting. He was waiting and waiting and waiting.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: And then he.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Asked the security guy or the towel guy, he's like, look,
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: you know, we've been here for about an hour. It's
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: 8 o'clock now. We got here at 7. Did we
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: miss him? Is he still coming? He said, oh, you
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: came 60 minutes late.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: He was there at 435 o'clock.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: On the Wizards, by the way.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Wizards Jordan, who, by the way, still was- 20 a game?
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: 20 a game? Yeah.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: But it's like he didn't have nothing to prove at
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: that point. Right, for sure. He could have easily took
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: his foot off of the gas and just- He was
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: already Michael Jordan at that point.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: But even at that point in time, after winning five,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: six championships, he still was in the gym at 4.30 a.m.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: That goes- That's why he's Michael Jordan.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 100 percent.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: So when other people don't have that level of work
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: ethic or when other people just look at their success
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: and start to celebrate their success, like once you start
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: to celebrate your success or think about, you know, everything
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: that you've done and throw like, you know, grand parties
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: for yourself. I think that that's when the decline starts
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: to happen. So, you know, you never win in this game.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I don't think you never win or you never lose.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: It's just a constant battle every single day. A win
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: and a lose is only determined when the game is
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: actually over. So when it's done, when it's all said
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: and done, when there's no time left on the clock,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: that's when you can determine if you've actually won. Because
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: we've seen people in sports, right, that's up 35 points,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: 40 points and actually lose. They lose the game because
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: they took their foot off the gas. Or people might
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: have been a boxing round. They won every single round
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: and then they get knocked out in the 12th round.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Did you win? You had a hell of a fight.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: You won every single round.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Falcons blew 28-3 in the Super Bowl. That did happen.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: In business, I think you got to create anything. You
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: got to look at it the same way. Like, okay,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: we might be up on the scoreboard, but it's not
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: over yet. Like, it's not over until it's over.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: All right, week seven, NFL, man. I've been on a
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: run with my Cal Sheet picks. I think I've, like,
• 22:17
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• 22:20
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• 22:23
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• 22:27
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• 22:29
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• 22:34
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• 22:37
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  Speaker 1: the bio look this week man i'm loving the houston
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: texans to win by over nine and a half points
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: against the new york giants all right that's trading at
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: 51 right now on cal she this is how i
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: see it the texans are finally getting it together marvin
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: harrison just got traded there tankdale's healthy this week and
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: nico collins is there cj stroud has all his weapons
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: that defense is going to make life hell or Jameis Winston,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: or J.J. McCarthy, or whoever the Giants decide to start
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: a quarterback for Week 7. So that's what we like, man.
• 23:09
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• 23:12
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• 23:14
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• 23:17
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• 23:22
  Speaker 1: things as crazy as, like, the Oscars. Yeah, that's right.
• 23:24
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• 23:27
  Speaker 1: the Billboard chart. Um, I'm not going to lie when
• 23:30
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• 23:33
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• 23:37
  Speaker 1: The Odyssey is trading at 46% favorites, right? But this movie,
• 23:41
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• 23:44
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• 23:47
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• 23:55
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• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Get $ 55 for free. Let's get back to the podcast. Obviously, Troy,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: with your education background, I keep seeing like a narrative
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: more and more coming up that like school and or
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: college is like less useful and important than ever because
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: we have artificial intelligence there's youtube university information is at
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: our fingertips um what are your thoughts just on that
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: in terms of like because i do feel like we're
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: gonna start to kind of get to like this point
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: and it's already happening if you have a phone in
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: your pocket where you're kind of like an it's like
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: the world is in your pocket. And it's just going
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: to get crazier with AI, the wearable that Mark Zuckerberg
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: just dropped with the Muse AI agent.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: I was just telling him about that.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Around your neck. The Muse charm, yeah. What are your
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: thoughts on the importance of a traditional education, and is
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: it diminishing?
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think education is going to have to have reform.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Traditional education is going to not exist in the next
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: 10 to 15 years. It just can't, and it's not
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: sustainable anymore. if you look at, and we'll talk from
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: post-high school, but, you know, when you talk about the
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: amount that it costs, when you talk about how fast
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: we're getting information, we don't have time to get a
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: four-year degree.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and also, like you said, the cost is insane.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: It continues to rise. Less people will be able to
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: afford it, and if they can, they'll be in debt,
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: and that is a cycle that we can't see that's
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: going to be sustainable. But the information that they're actually receiving, right,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: when you talk about when you're going to school, what
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: are you actually getting a degree in? So if you
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: start breaking that down by how much it pays, you
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: start to see like this.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: The ROIs.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: It doesn't even make sense from a return on investment.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: So what can we do? Can we infuse artificial intelligence
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: and actual intelligence to create a skill set that can
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: actually benefit us? And that's what we're going to see.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: I think there are definitely places throughout the world where
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: artificial intelligence is being used in school at.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Very young ages, kindergarten on.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: And you see like New York City where we're at,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: where it's actually banned in some schools and You can't
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: even use your phone without, you know, having restrictions. It
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: might be an hour a day or it might be
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: one class that you can use it in. So the
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: more we restrict, the more that kids are going to
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: have to learn on their own, which is almost a
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: benefit at some point because when you restrict things from
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: young teens, they get creative and they actually use it more.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: And so what can they create? How can they use
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: it to their advantage? And the other part is after
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: they do that, how are they investing, number one, time,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: but investing in the infrastructure that's going.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: To be built out?
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: Because the idea of being in a school... with 30 kids,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: listening to one teacher, and that teacher trying to reach
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: 30 kids at that same level every day is just
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: not sustainable, and we've seen it.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: We all were a part of it.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: I was, as a student and as a teacher, but
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: what if we could have something that could expedite the
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: learning skill set, but also cater to the person that's
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: trying to learn? And so that tool is here. How
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: will they implement it? How will they.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Meaning AI. AI.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: How will they implement that on a school level, but
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: also How will you implement that outside of the school? Like,
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: every day I'm using AI because I'm trying to learn.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out how we use these two
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: things together, the actual intelligence and the artificial intelligence, to
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: create something to be better at it.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just, like, started to kind of, like, learn the, like,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: building an AI agent thing. Yeah. Which is kind of crazy. Like,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: you can, like, create, like, you can, like, download. Shout
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: out to 19 Keys because he put me on this shit. Yeah,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: shout out to the bro. But you could, like, have
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: a off- the grid AI agent on your computer that
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: isn't on the internet to do stuff for you, but
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: you could, like, have, like, five assistants doing different shit.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: What is, like, for each of you guys, what is,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I guess, more the practical ways that you guys, as businessmen,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: as podcasters, as just being the EYL guys, that you
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: guys are, like, using AI and integrating it into, like,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: what you guys do?
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I use it for research every day.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: So my agent is called Ace.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: My Ace agent is.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Did you name it Ace?
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so my muse agent is called Ace.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, so you got a muse. I got a muse. Okay,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: so you're getting the charm?
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: When it drops.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: When it drops, yeah, I'll get it.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: I'm into technology.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, I bought... I think it's cool as fuck.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: I bought the Apple glasses. Shout out to you, man.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: One of the very few.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I bought it. I'm into tech. I'm super
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: into tech. I have my Claude agent that's Ace. His
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: job is to go through the top 20 companies and
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: give me feedback based on my portfolio. So I'll tell
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: him these are the companies I'm investing in. Update me
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: every day. So 7.15 every morning, I go to my computer,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: open it up. It's giving me a breakdown on all
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: those companies, right? My agent with Muse, they're actually looking
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: for entry points as well into companies. Like, hey, I
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: remember you saying that this is an entry point that
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: you would like it. It's not here.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Here's how it's trending.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: From a business standpoint, you know, it comes through emails, right?
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: It tells me, you know, which ones were important, which
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: ones I missed. If there's an audio ad that's missing, hey,
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: app emailed you, you didn't respond yet. So it kind
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: of does that organizational piece. My wife, I had her
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: create her Muse. Her Muse's name is Sunny. The integration
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: to other apps is the best thing because now we
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: just did an Instacart. It was like, hey, you order
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: Aquafina every week. Would you like me to add.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: This to yours? Because it'll order it for you, right? Oh, absolutely. Yeah.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Because the integration's there. So we're incorporating it on a
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: daily basis. And I actually created my own agent that,
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: I haven't shown anybody yet, but it took me like
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: two months. Every day I was just trying to add
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: something to it. I want you to look at companies
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: based on this. I want you to find this metric.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: I want you to look at if it has a 20% depreciation.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: I want to see what's his competitive advantage. And so
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: now I'm fine tuning that to one day. I'm going
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: to let the family see it and they can use
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: it and benefit from it.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Are you on the agents too?
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, agents and also just chat GBT in general. Earn
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: your leisure. Everything you see has some form of AI
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: in it. You know, most of the, at least 50%
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: of the social media content that you see, I have
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: my fingerprint on. And every YouTube thing that you see,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: I have my fingerprint on. So, for instance, for social media,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: for editing, give me the clips. And this is why
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: you have to have actual intelligence and mastery and a
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: skill set. It's not just good enough to just do
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: it for you. That's a common misconception. People are like,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: AI can just do things for you. It can do
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: things for you, but it's not going to be at
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: the highest level.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: 100%.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: He'll give me clips. He'll give me a folder of clips,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: let's say, from an episode, right?
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Your agent?
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: No, no.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Or your editor?
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Our editor.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: And then it's like 15 clips. So I'll go through
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: every single clip. And then from my trained eye, I'll
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: identify seven clips that I know is going to hit
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: the algorithm or have a chance to hit the algorithm.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Then I'll watch the clip. These clips already have titles
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: on them. And he uses AI as well. So the
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: clip already has a title on it, right? Like, it'll
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: say how bootleg Kev got his first 100,000 followers on Instagram. Right.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: I'll watch it. But that title probably isn't the most
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: beneficial when it comes to really going viral, right? So
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: from watching it, you might have said something, and it's
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: like DMX came on the podcast and spoke about his dog.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: After that, he got 50,000 followers in a week. That
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: storyline is better told. That, in my mind, is a
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: good title. But then I'll put it in chat, GBT,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: and I'll say, like, how you feel about this or
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: make it viral. Then it'll give me some more suggestions.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Based on that, it might tweak, take a word out,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: make it a little bit shorter, and I'll say, okay.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: I still don't like it, though, because it's still not
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: really in the language that people really talk in. Refine
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: it better. Do that a couple times. Then, like, after
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: a few minutes, then you have a final product. So,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: it's working with it. And like I said, at least 50%
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: on all of our social media posts, that's the process
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: that actually has been done in real time. But you
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: still have to have the trained artist say, okay, this
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: post will work better on a graphic slide.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Like a carousel instead of a reel.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: This post will work better in, like, a 50... You know, like,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: it's 50-50 where it's, like, an image at the bottom
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: and then, like, they're talking about.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, 100%.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: That. So, but... I don't use AI for that. I
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: just kind of know that.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, yeah.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: But like, for instance, like a YouTube title, right? I'll
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: put all the information that is said in the YouTube.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: So from the file that he gave me, I'll say,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: send me the titles of all these clips. And I'll
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: put all the titles in the clips into chat. And
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: then it'll be like, these are the titles based for
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: the topics that's coming on Earn Your Leisure this week.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Make a YouTube description. then we'll make a YouTube description
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: with hashtags. Then it's like make a viral title based
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: off of that. But once again, the title might not
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: be the best title, but it's a good starting point.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: But it's a good starting point and maybe it sparks
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: you to be like, ah, if I change this word.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Exactly. But, so you still have to have mastery in
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: your field. Don't think that artificial intelligence, at least right now,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: lets you just be stupid and lets you be lazy.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: That's a common misconception where it's like mastery still matters.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: If you're making music, right, I'm sure musicians are using
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: artificial intelligence to either for their vocals or ideas, but
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: they still have to have some level of mastering, understanding
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: of a crowd, what their demographic is going to like,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: like all of that stuff. So chat, GBT, anthropic muse,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: all of these tools are great. It's, it's like, all right.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: An analogy is like, to me, it's like Balco, right?
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: Say what you want about Sammy Sosa and Barry Bonds era.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: It's a performance enhancement drug.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they were still all-time great. Like, Barry Bonds
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: is still Barry Bonds.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: On his own.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Before the.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: On his own.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 100%.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Barry Bonds was never proven.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Fair point. Barry Bonds was never proven. Yeah, let's say
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Mark McGuire and... Sammy. Sammy.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: And they still are who they are on their own.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: 100%.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: And then that just enhanced.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: It enhanced them already being incredible.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: So be the best on your own. Never stop learning.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: You can't, some things it can't, you got to have
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: that vibe. You got to fully immerse yourself. You got
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: to be in it 12 hours a day, no matter
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: what you're doing. And then use the AI to give
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: you that superhuman power.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like sometimes what I'll do is like, I have
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: my guys edit everything, and then just for shits and giggles,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: I'll dump it into Opus Clip and be like, let
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: me see what Opus Clip pulls. And by the way,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: very imperfect thing to use. It's not great.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: It cuts it off. It does all kinds of shit.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Yes. But it's like, maybe you'll see something that your
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: editor didn't see and be like, hey, yo, this part,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: flush that out a little bit. I liked it.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Are you using it every day?
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: No, I don't use Opus Clip every day.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: No, I'm saying you're using AI every day.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, every day.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: That's why I think it's important, and kind of what
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Shadi's saying is important, too. Is that the fact, if
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: you're using it every day, it's also learning what you like.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: No, no. My chat GPT be cussing and shit like
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: and talking like me.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: It's like it listens to me. It's learning you and
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: then it learns the likes and the dislikes.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: 100%. Right?
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: So like even now if I ask it like, hey,
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: we're about to sit down with this person. Give me
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: a little background information. They'll say, hey Troy, do you
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: want it for market money or do you want it
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: for earning your leisure? Because it's so used to me
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: going to it and saying, hey, just give me some ideas.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: What are you thinking?
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I used it to prep for my radio show,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: like everything.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: So imagine the people who were saying, oh, I'm afraid
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: of it. I'm never touching that.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Listen, I would say this, like Claude even like, I
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: had an idea for a website and I kind of like,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I just was fucking, I got Claude and I got
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: the expensive one because I was like, let me see,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: because I always hear Claude's like the shit for like
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: building sites and apps and all that. And bro, within
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: like 45 minutes, Claude cranked out like a very high
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: level version of like my vision that was functional.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's great for that. So I built my house
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: with Chad GBG.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, really?
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so interior and exterior. So the exterior, I'm building
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: a house right now.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Design, design. You designed it, yeah.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Well, design, but also some architectural stuff as well, like
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: rooms and stuff like that. So yeah, I didn't physically.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: They didn't just like poop out of it.
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: No, because they have the robots that'll build it.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: They do, they do.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: You got to be clear.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: And they have a $ 15, 000 house in China. Yeah.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Fucking China got figured out, dog.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: So the exterior of the house, I was trying to
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: come up with different ideas. And I was working with
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: an interior designer, and I was asking her opinion. She
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: was giving me feedback. Everything that she was giving me, mock-ups,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: it didn't really. And it was taking a long time.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: It was taking like a week. A week to get
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: a mock-up. Three days to get a mock-up. I'm like, yo,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: you just got to move quicker than this. Long story short,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: I didn't like anything that she sent me. I went
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: on Google. And I typed in, because I had an
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: idea what I wanted. I typed in the idea just
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: for inspirational pics. And it gave me a bunch of
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: inspirational pics of homes that had already existed. I put
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: those inspirational pics into ChatGBT and showed it a picture
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: of how my house looked. And it was like, make
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: an exterior. And the first one it gave me, that's
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: the one that I went with. And I showed my contract.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: I'm like, this is what I want. This exact thing.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: And he was like, who did this for you? I'm like,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Chad GBT. And he was like, did it for you?
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: And we went to the siding place where we got
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: the outside stuff. And that was the thing. It was like, look,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I want the house to look like this. Give me
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: the material for it to look like this. And then
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: the interior as well, they designed a couple of rooms
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: for me. Like I'll just take a picture of the
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: room and I'm like, give me inspiration of what you
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: think I should do. But once again, I'm talking back
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: to it. So it's like, he's giving me a picture.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Yeah, nah, this don't really fit the vibe.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: But then after like four or five times, oh, no,
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: this is it. This is a good thing. Then I'll
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: send it to my lady in China that gets all
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: the stuff made for me. And I'm like, look.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: You're sourcing directly from China.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I went to China.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: That's why I remember you were out there. I think
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: you did a, were you doing your podcast from out there?
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: I did two shows.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: I was about to say, I remember you being in China.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I was like, damn, my guys, I watched that shit.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I went to China.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Studio travels.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: So, yeah. So, I mean, in real time, it did
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: the work of an interior designer, right? It gave me, like,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: contractors gave me estimates. I put it in chat, GBT,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: you think this is right? They'd be like, nah, this
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: is way off. I'll come back, I'll know, right? So,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: it is really changing the game in so many different ways.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: But for creatives, I think that artificial intelligence is going
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: to be big for creators. A lot of creatives think
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: that they don't want to use it because it takes
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: away from their creativity. But I don't think so. I
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: think it's just going to give you more ideas.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: It should make your creativity more efficient.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the word. I was just going
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: to say there's two things that artificial intelligence definitely does
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: and it makes you more efficient and life more convenient.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: How do you get to that point? I don't fuck
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: with the AI music and some of the AI, I
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: call it AI slop. man, some of these rappers, cause
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I did this new music review show on Nero and
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: some of the shit that gets sent and they'll like
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: send their, their AI slop music video or, and it's
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: just like, all right, like there's a way of doing that.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: And it's just horrible.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: The gig is up.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But, but, but you know like i'll give you
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: an example like i'm uh going to asia to dj
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: in november and a couple of the clubs thailand so
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: a couple of the clubs that hit me or my
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: boy buddha hit me and he was like yo a
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: couple clubs asking for epk or whatever and i was
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: like oh fuck i haven't had an epk dude it's
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: 2026 go to my fucking instagram you know But I
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: had like a deck for my podcast sponsorship that we
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: send to sponsors that I like the aesthetics of. And
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: so I worked through Claude and cooked up like exactly
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: what I wanted. But I was very much like giving
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: it feedback every step of the way. And then in Claude,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: while it's building shit, you can move stuff around. Yeah,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Claude Project. Bro, it's amazing. Yeah. It's like, why would, like,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: otherwise I'd be, like, raking my head across the floor, like,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: on Photoshop or paying somebody to probably do exactly what
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I'm doing.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: The same, so, like, we're in the same neighborhood, same street. Like,
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of legal battles on there. So, I
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: would fight the town, like, the town attorneys. Like, I
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: would get information. I would say, like, here's a case.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: Tell me how I need to approach it. It got
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: to the point, like, they were responding with me back
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: and forth and they called me in for a meeting
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: and I I was like, yo, prepare me for the meeting.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: How should I go into this thing? Ask some questions.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: They couldn't answer them. They're like, we got to schedule
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: another meeting. Then I got an email saying like, look,
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: we don't feel comfortable going into any more meetings without
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: more proper representation on our side. And I was like, damn,
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: they're finding a guy who got a degree in phys
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: ed and they're actually like lawyers. But that tells you
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: like that's a profession that's going to get disrupted as well.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: When you start thinking about paralegals and If you.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Dump your contracts in it, at the very least.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Then it learns it.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, at the very least, you're going to get like
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: a baseline legal consultation that you would have probably had
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: to pay $ 500 for.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Medical, same thing.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Put your medical records in. What's your opinion? Like, at
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: least get a second. Because, you know, you go to
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: a doctor, they tell you, okay, take medicine for this, right?
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: You're not really educated to ask them a question on
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: why you should take medicine. What's the alternative? What's the
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: holistic approach? So now I just give me my records,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: put it in chat, GBT, put it in, put it
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: with me, whatever. This is what the doctor, this is
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: what happened. This is what the doctor is telling me,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: but I want to go holistic approach. Like what is
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: some alternative? Not to say that you should definitely do,
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: because they can be wrong. They're wrong all the time
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: about stuff. But at least, like you said, at least
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: it's a baseline.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: It's a base. It's something. It's like something, especially when
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: it comes to contracts are like, Oh, like, Oh, there's
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: a commercial lease. Go through this commercial lease. Tell me
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: about it. Like break it down and like normal man talk.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: What is it? What's up with this document? And it
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: keeps getting better.
• 42:08
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• 42:12
  Speaker 3: OpenAI are becoming something that people actually know. We're in
• 42:16
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• 42:19
  Speaker 3: In two weeks, Gemini, which is Google's AI, it scoured
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• 42:26
  Speaker 3: the information that had been put in the internet from
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: 1990 up until, In two and a half weeks, they
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: learned the entire thing.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Right? So why?
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Because it's the number one search engine.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: People go there to search things.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: They find information.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: It learns it all. And it just keeps learning. It
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: never stops. And it's always getting better and always crafting
• 42:45
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  Speaker 1: Lakehead podcast. So there's obviously like the conversation about AI
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: on the ethical side of it in terms of like
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: data centers and what it's doing to the environment and
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: how it's affecting the climate and certain communities. At the
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: same time, it is an inevitable force.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: So it's like it's like the Internet. It's like imagine
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: if in 1996 somebody was like, nah, fuck the internet, dog.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I love this library of mine. You know what I'm saying?
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, there were people like that.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there were people like, nah, I'm never sending an email.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: I don't trust that shit. I'm going to write a
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: letter and put stamps on it. You know what I'm saying?
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: For you guys, there has to be.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: There's a clip of Al Roker in the Today Show
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: where they was doing just that. The guy was explaining
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: emails And they were just making a joke about how
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: stupid this was. And looking back on it now, it
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: looks so crazy. You can Google it. It's like a
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: famous clip on the Today Show.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: Jon Stewart did the same thing about Instagram.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this happens a variety of different times. Jay Leno
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: talked to Jeff Bezos. So this has already happened historically
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: when people just thought that something was a joke. And
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: then it turned out they just looked so crazy just
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: because they didn't have the foresight to understand what was
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: coming down there.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: Right, so it's obviously made memory extremely expensive. An external
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: hard drive is cracking compared to where it was. And
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: then obviously power is becoming expensive. And I think our
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: power grid, I don't know how much of our power
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: grid can handle what's going on. Where do you see, obviously,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: the ethical side, put that to the side, Those are
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: both problems that are going to have solutions or are
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: going to create new opportunities for investing, especially the power
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: grid side. Because like you said, our power grid can't
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: handle what's coming, but there has to be a solution.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: How do you guys see the investment opportunities on that
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: specific side of the AI front? What are the things
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: that people should be looking to maybe invest in?
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: I think you look at the companies that are trying
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: to combat that exact issue. One that comes to mind
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: is like Bloom Energy. The ticker is BE. And they're
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: using fuel cells. They're not using the typical environmental hazardous
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: approach to powering a guy. And if you've seen them
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: since probably 2023, you've seen their.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: I've heard you guys talk about Bloom.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: If you watch their chart, you're like, wait, how did
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: this just happen?
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Well, they saw what was needed, right? Constellation Energy, which
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: is a company that Microsoft partnered with, they're trying to
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: go nuclear.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: But nuclear is going to take at least five to
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: ten years to even get on grid.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: For sure, you can't just, yeah.
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, nuclear plant tomorrow.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: It's not how it works, yeah. Not how it works, right?
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: Then you have companies like GE, Renova, and Caterpillar that
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: are saying, all right, we can go with the gas
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: turbine approach. Then they'll say, like, there's some environmental issues there.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: So the cleanest way was, okay, we'll go with fuel cell,
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: and we'll try to figure out how to build out
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: that way. So Bloom has gone and taken off. The
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: problem with that is, the only issue, one of them,
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: is that they're a small company. So when a company
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: like GE, which is an offspring from General Electric, which
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: has a massive history and massive capital, sees that that's approached, okay.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: We're just going to do what you're doing. We can
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: do it bigger and quicker.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: We can do it bigger. We can scale faster. You
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: have the head start now.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Or we're going to buy you.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Or just take your technology. But that's the game. So
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: you always got to look at who's doing something that
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: is efficient, who's going to do things that are environmental friendly,
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: especially in this Because now the fear, I feel like
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: the past two months has been, like, data centers is, like,
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: the word you can't even talk about.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's tanking, like, a lot of people's political shit,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Because I think people are seeing, like,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about it earlier, like, the wealth
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: gap's growing, the rich is getting richer, the poor is
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: getting poorer, and, like, data centers have become, like, a
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: symbol of, I think, that wealth disparity for whatever reason. And,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: like I said, like, ethics aside like it's an it's
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: an inevitable force that you know like we're all we're
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: all gonna people right now who are against data centers
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: whether they know it or not probably have ai integrated
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: in their lives every day right so it's like just
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: kind of is what it is um what are your
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: guys's thoughts on because you guys are obviously are you
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: guys in new york state you guys in jersey new
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: york so you're in new york yeah um but obviously
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: the way because i feel like there's there's this new,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: it's not new, but the Democratic Socialists, the DSA side
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: of the Democratic Party is really having a moment. And
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't call them like anti-capitalists by any means because
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of the people on that side are capitalists,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: like the bro who just won in Michigan. I think
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: he's a small business owner, Asaid. But what are your
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: thoughts on like the surge of the DSA on the
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: left and just kind of like Yeah, I.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Think it speaks to a growing frustration. Once again, the
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: poor is getting poorer. People are staying stagnant. College degrees
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: is not moving you up the economic ladder. And people
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: have just forgotten about for a long period of time.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: They're paperweights.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that what people deem as extremism. Extremism only
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: comes when the masses actually rally behind it. Whether it's
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: extremism for good or extremism for bad. Like you look
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: at Hitler and the fascist regimes in Italy. That only
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: came because they had ground support. It wouldn't have happened
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: if it wasn't ground support. So I think the economic
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: disparity has caused some level of, some might say, extremism
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: as far as with socialism in America. But I think
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: that even that word democratic socialists doesn't really make sense
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: because you didn't like Mayor Mondani. And I'm a proponent
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: of his and I actually championed him. I think he's great.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: I championed him before he was like a very like
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: easy champion.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: No, no.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: He's, he's awesome.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: But he, he's, he champions core principles of not just socialism,
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: but capitalism as well.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: A hundred percent.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Like, You know, businesses wouldn't be able to run. If
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: it was a socialist government, businesses would not be able
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: to run at the efficiency that they're still running at.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: New York City is still a capital of capitalism.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: It is the shining light of capitalism.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: And real estate wouldn't be able to flourish. Like, it's
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: still flourishing. Like, New York City's real estate, I mean,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: maybe San Francisco, L.A., but it's not too many places
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: in the world that has a real estate market like
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: New York City. Now, you can say that there's bad
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: parts and unaffordable. Of course, of course. That's a different conversation, so.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Should guardrails be on capitalism? Yes. Because anything without guardrails
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: runs amok, right? So when there's no guardrails at all,
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: that's when there's no increase in salary. But rents quadruple,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: houses quadruple, right? Everything. And I learned this even going
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: to China. Because people think about China, they think it's
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: a communist society and people are just living under the
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: gaze of communism. But it's actually a hybrid. It's a
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: communist society, but there's a lot of capitalism infused in it.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: But what it does is it keeps prices down for
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: not just goods, but everything, like rent. Rent is like
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: $ 500 a month. I saw cars that look like Cullinan's.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: that was $ 40, 000, $ 50, 000.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, they always say that if China's ever
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: able to get their cars over here, like, Tesla's cooked.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Everything's cooked.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Everything's cooked.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: But it shows, so it's like, why we start, you
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: got to start to question why you're paying so much
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: for things. We just normalize everything because we're in America.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: And then it's like, they always tell you, oh, well,
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: we have the highest quality. So it's like, okay, I'm
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: going to go to a third world country and live.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: But then when you go to China and you see
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: a society that's actually running more efficiently than us, and
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: more advanced technology and more advanced health than us. And
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: they have superior products than us.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: 100%.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: At a cheaper price point.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: And it feels like all of the whatever taxes or whatever,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: they're using it to reinvest in infrastructure.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Exactly. So I didn't hear one cop siren when I
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: was out there the whole entire week. So then you
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: start to question. Has capitalism run amok in America?
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: We don't even realize it. We don't know it. We
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: shouldn't be paying the prices that we're paying for almost everything.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Almost everything is 10.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Times- Especially like healthcare. We don't have the best healthcare.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Not even close.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Not even close.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: We don't have the best education. So we're paying taxes.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: What are we really paying taxes for? We're not in
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: the top 50 in the world when it comes to education.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: We're not in the top when it comes to healthcare.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Nope.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: We have the number one prison population.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: I think we have the number one obesity rate.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: The number one obesity rate. Our homelessness is out of control.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: We're one of the most violent countries. We have one
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: of the, for quote unquote, you know, advanced countries. We're
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: the number one by far when it comes to gun violence.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: So now you guys start questioning things. We're paying so
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: much money in taxes. Our cost of living is so high.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: when we're at the lower level on almost everything compared
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: to other countries that are deemed as socialist countries or
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: communist countries, but how are they performing at a better
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: rate and have a better quality of living than we
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: have in America?
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's interesting, too, because I saw a clip
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: of Mondani. He was on Theo Vaughn, and he asked
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: him to define what that meant. He was like, to
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: just make sure people can, like, survive with dignity. Like,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: making sure, like, we're doing everything... We can as the
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: government and doing what we have the power to do
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: to make sure you could just live with your dignity.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying?
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: The most advanced societies in the world have socialism built in.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: When you look at Dubai, all of the Emiratis, everything
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: is paid for.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: That word, it just scares. I feel like we just
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: need a new word for that. Because it's like, hey, dude,
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: the police system, the fire truck, that's a form of socialism.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: The post office, a form of socialism. Social security.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Social security.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: It's socialism. We already have social... Any security blanket, unemployment insurance,
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: during COVID, when people got the checks, the PPP, all
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: of these.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: That's a part of... By the way, the tariff refunds
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: that companies just got, a little form of socialism there.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: And all the bailouts that happened. The bailouts that happened
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: in 08. That's socialism.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Too big to fail is socialism.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Exactly. So we already are in a hybrid... socialistic society
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: and i do.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: Think like capitalism getting out of control literally is the
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: fact that everybody is owned by pharmaceutical companies and health
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: insurance companies which is why we're never going to get
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: health care for everybody it's not because it doesn't make
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: sense everybody wants it it's just welcome to capitalism welcome
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: to the lobby Like, who's going to spend the most money? Like,
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: the alcohol lobby will outspend the weed lobby so you
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: don't smoke weed.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: And the idea is that everybody can't get health insurance
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: and everybody can't get free education because that goes against
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: the core principles that the country is founded on when
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: it comes to communism. The country wasn't founded on communism.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: That happened later. But that's the narrative. Right. Well, why
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: did everybody get a retirement plan? Social Security.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Same shit. Same exact shit. We're all paying.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: For this, right?
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: So what's all this tax money?
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: Well, we'll see. We'll see how long we have that.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Fair. And it's funny because now we're like the shit
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: that they tell us to be scared about with China
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: or like other countries where it's like, you know, you
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: can't even speak out over there. It's like, yo, man,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: that shit. They didn't even allow James Taurico to be
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: on fucking Jimmy Kimmel. He had to put that shit
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: on YouTube. That's some state run shit. Like, that's crazy. Like,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: that's the shit they tell us they do in China.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: But they did it during COVID. How many people got
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: their channel shut down because they were talking.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: About the vaccine?
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: Or you banned the media.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Or you were banned off of Twitter.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Instagram.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: Or you allowed corporations to stop funding shows.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: It's so crazy. Yeah, I mean, and then also it
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: feels like the monopoly thing is kind of getting thrown out.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: It depends on who's like, wheels you grease. Fuck all that.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: It's like one family running all the motherfucking, the Paramount
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: merger and all that shit. That shit's It's getting spooky.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you guys, because you guys are
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: both hip-hop. You guys are... I mean, obviously, we've had
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: a great extensive conversation about hip-hop, but whenever you guys
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: talk about hip-hop, I just gain so much more respect,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: because you guys know more about hip-hop than, I would say,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: most of the top ten of the complex media list.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: For sure. Respectfully. But.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: That's our next show.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: No, dude, you guys are fucking heads, for sure. And
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: you guys know your shit. It's been an interesting... Hip-hop year. Okay.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Who's got your guys' album of the year so far? Iceman. Iceman? Okay.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Iceman's my album of the year.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: Clips.
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: That was last year.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: That was last year?
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Know.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Nothing. No album?
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's been a transformational album.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's been a transformational album. That's the thing.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: I think my favorite album of the year is The
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: Fall Off. I love the Cole album. J.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: Cole? I love the Cole album. J. Cole album was good.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: And it was a lot initially, so it's just like
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: you live with it a little, and it just gets better.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: It was a good album. I like J. Cole a lot.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: I think he's one of the best lyricists of all time,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: but I don't think that he put a transformational body.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: No, no, I don't think that's, I don't think a
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: transformational body.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: It's not at the front of his dish.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: He had an opportunity to.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Because everybody was paying attention to what he did, the
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: whole Kendrick thing, everything. I feel like this could have
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: been His legacy piece.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: It's not. Iceman was good, though. Just that.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying, like, Khabidi and all the others made
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: the Iceman album.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: It's a good album. Yeah. The thing about Iceman, I
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: had to come to peace with it being, like, his
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: therapy piece for the world turning against him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: Because it was, like, the first scorned album from a
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: man who was scorned by another man. Yeah. It was
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: just like his therapy.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Nah, Jay-Z did that. Blueprint 2.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: That's fair, but it wasn't the whole album.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: It wasn't the whole album. Well, a lot of it.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Well, no, because you had Meet the Parents on Blueprint 2.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying the underlying theme.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: No, for sure.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: Excuse me, this is on there.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: But I think Blueprint 2 had moments where you were like, okay,
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: like the Blueprint 2 song was fucking amazing.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: That song is dedicated to that moment.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: That was that. To me, that was the song where
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: you were like, okay, you got your shit off your chest.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: There was a moment where you wanted to talk about it.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: It was there. Drake's whole album isn't dedicated to Kendrick Lamar.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: It's just dedicated to all of it.
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: It's everybody.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: It's everybody.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: That's Tupac then. I mean, Tupac made multiple albums.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: No, but I'm just talking about Iceman.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: Machiavelli?
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, Machiavelli would be the closest one, but
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: he still had to live and die in L.A. on Machiavelli.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: No, but every song on Drake's album is not dedicated
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: to somebody.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: Hail Mary's on it.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: Hail Mary is going at people.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. I think most of it is like,
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like the whole album.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say the emotion.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Am I tripping?
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: And by the way, it's good.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: That's why I said, I think it's the best album
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: of this year. Lyrically, it's the best he's ever rapped
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: on an album.
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: You can feel the... I think nothing was the same, probably.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Tuscan Leather kicking things off. That's ridiculous, yeah.
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: Wu-Tang Forever's great, too.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: It's the emotional of the moment, right? That emotion that
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: overcame him, you can hear it through every song, right?
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: So when it's Make Them Pay, the theme is there.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: I love all the make-thems. Yeah.
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: All the make-thems are personally towards people, and then there's...
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: Versus in between, even like the kickoff when he's talking
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: about his situation in Houston. That's the first song on
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: the album, right? And then people get knowledge of what
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: he's actually saying. But you can feel like everybody who
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: he felt betrayed him at some point during that period, oh,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: this is his response to all of it.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: But he always does that. Even to Janis, when he's
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: talking to Sauce Walker, and he's like, that's how I
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: do it. But that's always Drake. Drake is always throwing
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: some subliminal.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like he was in the studio. You know
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: how you'll see that crazy guy in a movie? where
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: he's got like a bulletin board with a bunch of
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: people's faces circled and there's pins everywhere. I feel like
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: Drake was in the studio, like Ray Finkel and Ace Ventura.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: It's like, hey, Billy, this is... Yeah, no, I wasn't
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: even thinking of you.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: It's like the Rico when he got the top person
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: and got everybody underneath him.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, he was like, nah, I need
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: to give Khaled something.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Drake always going to throw some subliminal. He's been doing
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: that from the clips and.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: Like, he always finds a way to kind of... Kanye,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: he did this beef with Kanye for years.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, I think, like, him.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: And that was Kanye's thing. It was like, yo, he's
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: dissing people, and people might not catch it, but the
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: people he's talking to know exactly.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: The people he wants to know.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: They know it's them. But this, it was like, it's
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: that extended... Like, even the DeMar DeRozan thing. Like, every song,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: it's somebody where it wasn't like he's going for.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Here's the hit record. Here's the club banger.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: It was just like kind of, Janice kind of like
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: led to that, but it wasn't like super intentional or like, yeah,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: I'm going to have this girl record. Like when I
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: heard For All My Dogs, I'm like, damn, I thought
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: this was going to be that album and it wasn't.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: Because it felt like. I mean, when you hear, and
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: especially when it feels like the title is like, okay,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: this is what, it kind of felt like Iceman was
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: like the For All My Dogs for real.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: That's what that was.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: Can you listen to First Person Shooter? Like present day?
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: Probably not.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: It's tough, right? I mean, it's not a bad song.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: I think it's a great song.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: I just think that, like, with all the context of
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: everything that came from it, it's like, I don't know
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: how many times I want to revisit, like, the beginning
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: of the crime scene, you know? But, like... It's like,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: it came all to my... I'm like, skip. Like, I
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: don't want to listen to that. Yeah, it's like... Yeah,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I do think, like, that time
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: will tell, like, if that beef is good for the
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: totality of, like, the commerce of hip-hop. But, I mean,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: it was very entertaining, man, for two years. Absolutely.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: It was the best rap battle of all time.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Ever. Ever. Yeah.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: But here's the ramification. We're saying, like, what are the
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: best rap albums of 26?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Exactly. And it's like, yeah, I mean, like, I guess Drake,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously is in that conversation. Last year was great, though.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, but Drake would have did that without the battle.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: He was the number one streaming artist.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Before the battle. By the way, I just had this
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: conversation with somebody. Drake has more, like, we were having
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: this conversation about a, We have a group chat at iHeart,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: and we're talking about which artist is bigger, Bruno Mars
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: or Drake. And it's obviously Bruno Mars. Like, that's just
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: a fact. Now, if you look at.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: What metric?
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: Ticket sales, fucking... Now, mind you, Bruno has, I think,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: like 70% less music out than Drake. Yeah. Like, his
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: new album that just dropped, I think, is only nine songs.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: Not my favorite. He just did seven dates at SoFi.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Sold out.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: He's doing stadiums.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: I think he's.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: Doing five dates in Toronto. Sold out in the stadiums.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: His stadium tours and all that is crazy.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: But Drake has so much catalog that he's always going
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: to be the number one.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Most streamed rapper. It's cultural relevance.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: He unloaded three albums in one day.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: Bruno's performance is incredible too.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: He's an alien. But I think with Drake, it's like
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Even if you had the Kendrick conversation, it's like Kendrick's
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: dropped a substantially less amount of catalog than Drake. So yeah,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Drake's always going to be the number one most streamed guy.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: Well, you can't really necessarily say that Bruno Mars is
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: a bigger artist than Drake. It depends on how you
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: go about it. It really depends on how you go
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know the metric where he is.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: If they drop the album today, who's going to sell
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: more records?
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: Bruno Mars.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: No. The last album.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: Check, check.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: What was the first week sales of Bruno Mars' last album?
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: Well, let's look it up. Hold on. Bruno Mars. He didn't.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: But what he does have is a sustainable top ten record.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: Bruno Mars is like... So here's the thing. You know
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: Bruno Mars is the number... He was number one, but
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: he's either one or two at all times worldwide. In
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: terms of what? On Spotify.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: What's his last album?
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: No, it's got to be... It's Bad Bunny and Drake.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: Drake is not even... What are you saying? Drake's not
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: in the top five.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: And what's that?
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: You're talking about rappers. No, I'm talking about music.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: No, I understand.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: Bruno, Weeknd, or Bad Bunny?
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: In terms of streams.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you were to look at the Spotify ranks
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: at any given time, last year he was number one.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: He didn't have an album out. What's the last album?
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: What's the first week number?
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Bruno Mars' first week numbers for the Romantic. Yeah, the Romantic.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Not my favorite. 24 Karat? Probably my favorite. Versus Drake's
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: first week numbers.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: Well, Drake dropped three albums, so it's different. But let's
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: just go for Bruno Mars. No, we can't do for
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: Iceman because he dropped three albums. Oh, because you want
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: to do all three together? No, no, no. I mean,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: you could do Iceman.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: Even Iceman, I think, is going to pass it. Because
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: Bruno didn't. I think Drake went over 400.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: First week numbers, Drake did do more.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: He did.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He did do more.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's one album.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: That's one album.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: And that's not taking the other two out. He took
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: three out. He dropped three.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Albums on one day. I think one of them did two.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: How much more? How much more did he do?
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: So, to be fair... Drake's album, Bruno's album is nine songs.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: It's still an album?
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: ChatGPT said.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: Illmatic is nine songs.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: I know, but Illmatic didn't go fucking platinum until... Keep going,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: keep going.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: So ChatGPT is saying, essentially, the streaming difference is crazier.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 5: Drake generated four times as many first week on-demand streams.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: But there's an interesting flip side. Bruno absolutely destroyed Drake
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: in traditional album sales.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: People physically buying it?
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: So Bruno Mars physically had 93,000 people buy the album.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Drake had 13,000 people buy the album.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: I wanted to say destroy.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, that is destroy.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: That's not destroy. That's a marketing campaign to sell a
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: physical album.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: It says that Drake's sales were overwhelmingly stream driven. Who's
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: had more top 100? Hold on, hold on, hold on.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: What's the number?
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: Who's had more top 100 records?
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: But what's the numbers?
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but see, that's the competition you can't have.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: How many did he sell?
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: Drake has more music.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: How many did he sell?
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: How about this?
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: How many did he sell?
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, 186 versus 46.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: Four something, yeah.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: And that's one album.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: Drake sold over 900,000 albums. Whoa. Drake's first week sales
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: is 900,000 this last.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: For those two albums, yes.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: For three albums. For the three. So 140 versus 900- 180, 180, 180.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: 180 versus 900,000. Don't forget the 40. I think the
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: question is- Yes.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: So that metric. Let's ask, how many songs has Bruno
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: Mars released?
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: Well, it doesn't matter. If he drops nine songs, then
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: they're not.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: No, Drake drops way more music. He drops the album
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: every single year.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: First, how many songs has Drake released?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Well, that's why I said, how are we gauging it?
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: He's more consistent.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: And what's the average stream or sales per released song?
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: Well, you can't do that because it's more concentrated. So,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: of course, he's going to have a higher percentage. No, no, no.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: You still can do that and he'll still be higher.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: It's more concentrated. If I drop 10 and you drop 10,000,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: of course, my 10 is going to be more.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: And what's the average?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: Bruno had a number one record for like 16 weeks
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: last year, right?
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: Streams slash sales per released song.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: Also.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: He had a number one record with.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: I'm going to say over.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: The last five years. Five?
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: Let's go ten.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: Wait, wait, hold on. Over the last five... Okay, you
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: want to do ten years?
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: Because if you do five.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: Well, when did the streaming era start? Because that's kind of...
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: Let's go 2000. I'm going to ask them about Spotify.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: 2013-ish?
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: No, it was like 15 or 16.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: Because we got to... I want you to put 24
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: Karat in there, and that's 20.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, so over the last ten years, who's been higher
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: on Spotify's global charts for total listeners? Is that fair?
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: That's fair. Because we already know who sold more concert tickets.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: It's literally not even a discussion. But that makes sense.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Why he would? He could sell more concert tickets in
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: Toronto than Drake.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: Because he's a performer.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: He's a better performer.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: But that's why I said, how do you gauge it?
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: Okay. All right, Chad GPT, you fuck. This is a
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: much more interesting comparison than the romantic verse. Where was that?
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, here we go.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: Okay. Wait a minute. It was saying something that had changed. Yes,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: once you adjust for how much music each guy's released,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: the Drake vs. Bruno comparison gets much more interesting. There
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: are a couple ways to count songs released, because features, remixes,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Galux vs. whatever alright so catalog size Spotify tracks credited
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: Bruno Mars has 121 lead artist tracks he has 93
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Drake has 521 that's.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: What I'm saying you can't compare it's not a fair.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: Comparison but that's what I'm saying when you say who's got.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: More who sold more albums who sold more albums.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: Okay hold on We know who sold more.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: It's Drake. He's got more albums.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: Who sells more albums per album? Okay, hold on, hold on.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: Per album. We could do that. We could do per
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: album who sells more albums.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: Hold on.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, we'll ask that.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: It says Bruno Mars averages 482 million streams per track.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: Drake averages 252 million streams.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: Because he puts more songs out. That makes sense.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: So that's going to be skewed.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: The product is cut.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: But it's going to be skewed the other way. You
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: asked the question, who's got the most Billboard entries? Well,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: obviously it's Drake. No, no, no.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: I said top 100.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: Top 100 is a Billboard entry as a song.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: So we could go top 10 if you want to
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: do that?
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: Because even if you put nine songs, all nine.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, hold on.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: How about sales? Drake, this is what it says. Drake
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: equals much greater consumption. Bruno equals substantially greater consumption per
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: piece of music released.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: Now... Because it's less.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: Hold on. For 2016 to 2025, Drake has essentially lived
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: near the top of Spotify's global artist ratings. He was
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: number one ranked in 2018, number two in 2020, number
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: four in 2021, number three, blah, blah, blah. Okay.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: All genres, not just hip-hop.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: It's only him and Bad Bunny, bro.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: It's all genres.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: No, The Weeknd is bigger than Drake.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: You just said he's number three. He's number one. He
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: was number five. Now he's number three.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: It does say over the last 10 years, Drake is bigger.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: He's more consistently ranked higher than Bruno.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: He's streaming. He streams more music than Bruno. So he's
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: a big artist. Which would make sense because he has
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: more music.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: How is he a bigger artist if he can't sell
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: as many tickets as Bruno in his own town?
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: He's not a better performer.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: That's why I said it depends on... He's not a
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: better performer. It depends on how you gauge him.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: But he is a bigger artist.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: No, you can make an argument. It's like this.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: If he decides that he's not... Even with the legal battle, right?
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, you could have a discussion there, but like...
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: The type of deals that they're offering him, Bruno Mars
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: is not getting those type of deals.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: Bruno Mars is going to appeal to a wider audience.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, I asked the question that you wanted to know. Yeah.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Who's got higher album sales per album release? Higher album sales.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: Bruno Mars, by a pretty large margin, if we're talking
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: pure album sales per album release.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: No, he said pure album sales.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Just sales.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: So you're talking like physical, like I bought the vinyl.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: All right, so we can do... Streams.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: Stream.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: We'll just put overall sales. Overall sales. Break this down.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: Down by overall sales.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: Hoods and Hooligans, 24 Karat. I mean, you're talking about
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: Scorpion did nearly eight or nine million.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: Okay. So album units sold in totality. This is in totality. Now,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: we are very aware that Bruno Mars, he's only got
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: four albums. Yeah.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: All right. Bruno Mars, from his four albums, has sold
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: 130.6 million copies. Drake has sold 205. So he's half.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: So now he's half of them.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I would say that that's more than half.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: That's a lot. 205 versus 104?
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: No, versus 130. Okay. Yeah. Substantialized. Off of four albums. Okay. So, okay,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: Pure Albums. But... A beats him in Pure Album sales.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: So again, look.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: Every metric, he's been higher.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, we're talking about a guy who has
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: four albums.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but what if two of those albums were Diamond?
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: Then you're having a different conversation.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It says, essentially, Bruno Mars
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: has 32 million units per solo album. Drake averages 22.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: Bruno averages 43% more career equivalent sales slash consumption per
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: solo studio album than Drake.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: All right, look, here's a real metric. If Bruno Mars
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: stops making music today, does that change music?
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, you think Drake's changing music?
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 3: If Drake stops making music today?
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: Wait, changing music? Yeah. No, Kanye's changed music.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: No, I'm talking about if his contribution to music, the
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 3: output that he's making.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: So if he doesn't put music out anymore moving forward?
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: You think that does nothing to music?
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: To music? Yeah, like the genre. Hip hop. Or to commerce?
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: Both.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. He's never changed music. Let
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: me be clear. Now, has he changed? If he stopped.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: Output, consistency, hits. Nobody's done that.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: No, he changed music for sure. He definitely changed music,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: but also.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: Wait, how has he changed music sonically? How has he
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: influenced music?
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to tell you.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about sonically. No, no, that's... No, no, because
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: you're saying changed music.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you why.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: Because Kanye's changed music, right?
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He's able to have, like you said, the melodic.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: and actually mixing. So the A boogies of the world,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: there would be no A boogie There will be no
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: Lil Tjay. There will be no Rodway.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: But let's be clear. 808s and Heartbreaks came.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: Out before So Far Gone. He was putting auto-tune on.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: This is different. Kanye cannot sing.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: Kid Cudi influenced Ye, right?
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: Kanye cannot sing. Kanye was putting auto-tune on his voice
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: to change it. But yes, that was a... Drake is
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: actually harmonizing, singing to a certain degree on records, and
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: he's done it consistently. Early on.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: I do recall Drake giving it up to that album
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: to make it like okay to do what he's doing.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: You get embodied by singing. They never called Kanye a
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: singer at all.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 3: What you're saying is correct. His style is birthed from
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: that 808.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: Even if you listen to So Far Gone, the records
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: are sampled from Kanye. That's true.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: But the sound has changed. When you talk about diversity
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: in music, Right, like he can make a song with
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: Bad Bunny.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: Right, he's very diverse. But Bad Bunny, he went to,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: Drake is really good at like, I feel like sampling
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: people's vibes.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: Like the UK shit, a lot of people heard UK
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: rap for the first time through Drake.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. But Giggs was already a person, right?
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: The first time that we hear Wizkid at global scale.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: Is One Dance. Exactly. But Wizkid was the biggest artist
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: in Africa.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: But domestically, we didn't know that, right?
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: So that's what I'm saying.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: That changes music. Okay, I'll give you that.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: The whole emo, listen, the whole emo rap goes back
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: to Drake. When he's doing Marvin's room. All of this
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: depressed emo rap.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: LL Cool J first.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about in a new era. These kids don't
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: know LL Cool J at all.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: Come on, I need love, dog.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: These kids don't.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: I know you was going to say that. That's why
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: I said that.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: These kids don't know LL Cool J at all. I'm
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: talking about what inspired them. They was all inspired. I'm
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: pretty sure.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: I think it's good for business if Drake is popping.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: The whole emo movement.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: That's the point. I think that's different.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: No, listen.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: That's good for business.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: Give him credit. The emo movement, and there is the
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: emo movement. For sure. Drake is the father of that.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: Emotional rap. He's the father.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: That's Kid Cudi, man.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: No, he's not.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: Drake is.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: Drake is the father of emotional rap. You gotta listen
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: to Man on the Moon. Man on the Moon is
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: literally the most emo ass. At scale.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: It's a platinum album.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: At scale.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: Is he the.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: At scale. He has a part to play. The credit
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: goes to the scale person, not the French.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: I think the symphonic for sure.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: So that's why you're playing Marvin's Room.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: By the way, Marvin's Room is one of my favorite songs.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: Marvin's Room is emo rap.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: It's incredible.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: It's emo rap.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: So the Kid Cudi album, I get why you're saying that,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: because if you listen to that Man on the Moon,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: it's solely that.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: It's emo. It's literally an emo album.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: Well, his is, again, more diverse, where you get Marvin's Room,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: but you're going to get a bunch of other records
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: from that. Headlines is coming from that. And they're on
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: the same project.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: What's your guys' favorite Drake album, randomly, question?
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: Nothing was the same.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: It's mine, too.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: My favorite, Drake, it's not an album, but I think
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: it's an EP or a mixtape or whatever. But if
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: you're reading this, it's too late. It's an album.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was an album. Yeah. I think that that's
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: when Drake broke my heart when I found out he
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: had all those Ghost Riders.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: Because that shit, every song was going crazy. Because that
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: shit was crazy.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: Yo.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: Go back. Every song was going crazy on that.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: Go back and listen, though. No, it's a good album.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: The back half is a little tricky. It's a good album.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: I just listen to it.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: I love it. That's how it started.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: To me, nothing was the same as like- Best Body.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: I'm a legend I'm putting Iceman in the front end
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: of his catalog.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah I think like for me 10 bands 20 bands
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: 100 bands that's there but.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: You know what though that song was my favorite song
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: in that project and then I heard the reference and I.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: Was like a lot of those songs was reference tracks
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: some of those songs but the 10 bands one was
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: the one that I feel like was making its way
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: on Twitter at that time that was just a hook
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: man fuck it man and for discussion.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: Is this in the front end for you Iceman yeah 100%
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: I think Like I said, I think rapping-wise, it's like
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: that or nothing was the same. I think he was
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: pushing his pen so hard because he was in that
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: room and he had all the fucking shit up on
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: the bulletin board.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: Even from the standpoint of how he put it out.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: I love the visuals. Because I was like, all right,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: this is unique.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 3: So he tried to do the dance, the world music,
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: and it kind of got stepped on. So then he's like,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: you guys forgot? No, then Beyonce put out the album
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: and people forgot that Drake had put out the Honestly
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: Nevermind because that was just world music and then not
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: great by the way I like that it plays well
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: like throughout your.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: House shout out my guy Carnage he produced a lot
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: of it and I told I said that that what's
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: not it's not Habib because actually like Habib T what's
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: the what's the name of the Maid of Honor yeah
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: I said Maid of Honor and I might have said
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: this and it might have been hyperbolic because I forgot
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: Eminem released Revival because revival is one of the worst
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: pieces of shit anyone's ever released. But I said, Maid
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: of Honor is the worst album that anyone who's in
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: the GOAT conversation has ever dropped. But then I remembered, damn,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: Lil Wayne had some... Yeah. But Eminem Revival, I think,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: is probably the worst... Because if you think about who's
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: in the running for the GOAT convo, there's maybe five
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: or six guys.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: Who's in the running for the GOAT?
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: I think you got to go like M. I think
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: some people would say Wayne.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: Who's in mine?
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: Jay-Z, Nas, Tupac, Biggie, Three Stacks is in that convo.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: Kanye.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: Kanye. And I think if you just like the worst
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: album from a GOAT contender, it might be Made of Honor.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: So somebody's telling them out.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: Am I tripping? You know what?
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: I've never listened to the whole thing.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: It's so bad.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: Andre 3000 doesn't have a solo rap album.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: So he doesn't count.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: No, he doesn't.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: But I mean, Outkast is the greatest group of all time.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: He's never made a solo rap song.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's in Outkast, though.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: He rapped there. He has a solo rap song?
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: No. I don't care if he has a solo rap song.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: Outkast contributions are.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: How can you be in the greatest of all time
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: conversation if you don't have a solo rap song?
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: That's how great Outkast was. That's how great his contributions
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: to those Outkast albums were.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: But there's one song. His verses, you're saying. Bro, it's... No,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: I'm with you on three stacks.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: I love it. Favorite album.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: One of my favorite albums. That's one of my favorite albums.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: That came out the same day as Volume 2, Jay-Z.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, it did. Yeah. I bought both.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: Because somebody made a comparison between him and Prodigy. On
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: face value, that doesn't seem like a fair comparison.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: Well, because Andre's better.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: Well, when you really start to peel back the layers.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: Lyrically?
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: Listen, I'm a mob deep head. I fucking love HNIC.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: I love the Albert Einstein project he did with Alchemist.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: You can't just say he's better lyrically.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: No, he's better. Andre 3000 is better.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: No, you can't say that.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: I love Prodigy.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: I love him. Because at one point in time, Prodigy
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: was the best rapper.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: He was never the best rapper. I don't know why
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: you keep saying that. He was never at any point.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: He was never the best rapper.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: Never. What year? Never.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: It never happened.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: If you say 1995, Nasir Jones was alive. Listen, we
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: had this conversation with Nas.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: 1995.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: With Nas. Sitting at a dinner table. And he said
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: there was at one point that he was the best rapper.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: And Nas sat there, he was like, hold on, let
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: me finish this. He was like, yo, I was like,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at Nas while I'm talking. That could never
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: be true because you were on this planet. and so
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: was Christopher Wallace.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman I'm about to say, ready to die, dog.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman So you can never be the best rapper
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: alive if those guys are alive.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman And the Infamous, by the way, is the
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: top 10 album ever.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman Everybody has an opinion. Go on YouTube and
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: see what Jay-Z has to say about this. Rob Markman
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck what Jay-Z has to say.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman We're having a conversation here. Rob Markman Jay-Z
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: is the GOAT. Rob Markman No, he.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: Is the GOAT. I got fucking Jay-Z hat on right now.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman Listen. You talking about you don't care what
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: Jay-Z says. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: We're having a conversation.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: But I'm just like, you just feel like, what are
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: you talking about?
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: Look, Jay-Z has had some bad opinions before.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: Everybody can have a bad opinion, but he's qualified. He's
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: the GOAT.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: You got to listen. When the GOAT talks, Jay-Z said
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: there's a certain time where you can argue that Prodigy
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: was the best rapper.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: You can argue it. See, there's a difference.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: You put the word argument. That's a caveat.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: It's in the argument.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: Okay. But even to say somebody's in the argument, right?
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: Very few people have ever been in an argument.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: That's not the discussion. You made a definitive statement.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: That's my opinion.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying it isn't, but you made a definitive statement.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: You stepped on your own outcast point there because in 1995,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: I don't recall Prodigy having any solo songs out. So
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: how could he be the best rapper alive with no
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: solo songs out in 95?
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: Prodigy has four solo albums.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: Troy, Troy.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: Go ahead. You got to answer that. So if Andre
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: 3000 cannot be in the discussion for the greatest of
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: all time because he doesn't have a solo song out,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: how in the fuck could Prodigy be in the discussion
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: for the best rapper alive in 1995 when in fact
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: he had no solo music out in 95?
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: I'm talking about the totality. No, no, no, no. In 1995.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: Let me finish. Let me finish. The totality of his career,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: he has four solo albums.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: Which one of.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: Them is a classic?
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: H & IC. No.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: It's not a classic. Albert Einstein is better. It's not
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: a classic.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: The Albert Einstein album is better. H & IC. H & IC.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: It's a great album. Keep It Thorough is one of
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: the greatest beats ever.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: One of the best songs ever.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: It's one of the best songs. It might be my
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: favorite instrumental of all time.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: It's up there.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: Here's the reality, right?
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Alchemist.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Al.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: It's a good album, right? It's a great album, but
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: it's not a Rob Markman Outside of Keep It Thorough,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: can we name five songs?
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman No. Rob Markman Yes. Well, not five songs.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: I can't name five songs on anybody's album.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman That's not true. I can name Illmatic. I
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: can name It Was Written.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: I can name Real Britain. Rob Markman In order. Rob
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: Markman I never said it was Illmatic or It Was Written.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman I'm just saying classic.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman Can you name three songs?
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman No. Rob Markman Yes. Rob Markman No. Rob
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: Markman Young Black Entrepreneurs. Rob Markman It's not on that album.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman It is on that album. Rob Markman You
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: disqualifying yourself from this conversation. Rob Markman I said it is.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman You just said it wasn't. Rob Markman I
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: was joking. Rob Markman It's on the album.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman I said it was joking. Give us three.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: That are not named Keep It Thorough.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: By the way, that's not on that album.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: It is on the album. What album is it on?
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: Because I think that's on a Mobb Deep album.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: It's not on a Mobb Deep album. No, no, no.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: Name the three. No, no. You can come over here. Troy. No, no. Okay.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: You're 0 for 1.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: What album is it on?
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter because it's not on that album.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: Tell me what album it's on.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: Grab me a bottle. Grab my phone.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: Grab me a bottle of water.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: Tell me what album.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: Just say Keep It Thorough so you've got one on
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: the board. Put one on the board. No, no. I
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: said outside of it.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: It's not on that album. All you need to know
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: is factually it isn't on that album.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: Name me three. Tell me what album is on. I'm
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: going to tell you. I'm not telling you that's not.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: I'm just asking you what album is on. I'm going
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: to tell you what's on. You what? You're looking at
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: it right there.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: No, he only pulled up the HNIC.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: Huh?
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 3: He only has HNIC pulled up.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: So pull it up.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: I got a little on my phone.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: Pull it up.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: While you're thinking, go ahead and name us three. It's
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: a classic album, right?
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: Tell me. Tell me what. Tell me. No, it's this.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: Tell me.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: A word.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: That's keep it thorough.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: Of course. I'm saying like obviously. Yeah.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: Okay. No, listen.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: I got you. I mean, and it's no disrespect to him, right? Oh,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: it is. You're right, you're right. It's YBE.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: What are you talking about? So there's one. You got
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: one on the board. And HNIC is a song. No, no, no, no.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you got one more.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: I just named three songs.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: You named two.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: Keep It Thorough.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. You can't name Keep It Thorough.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: How do you say I can't name Keep It Thorough?
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: That's what we said. Punch, did I say.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: Punch, I said not name Keep It Thorough.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: That's what they said. Yo, bro. He said name three songs.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: You named three. You named the title track.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: All right, man. All right, man.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: Out of 22 songs....
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: Out of 22 records.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: I named three songs. They asked me to name three songs.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: I said name three songs. By the way, Return of
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: the Mack and Albert Einstein are both better than HNIC
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: as projects.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: It's not a classic.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: No, it's not a classic.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: It's a great album.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: Infamous is a classic. We don't have to argue.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: The bottom line is.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: All-time album rocker.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: You could name that down the line. That's different.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but in 1995, he was the best rapper alive
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: despite not having any solo music out. Okay. So Outkast.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: But Alcat, he never- Andre 3000. But look, we comparing
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: him to Prodigy.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: So- In 1995.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: No, just in the totality of their career. So as
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: far as rap, who can rap? So when Jay-Z says,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: at that moment, you could argue Prodigy was the best rapper.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: You tell a story about Nas. You could argue it.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: When I told this to Nas that, to me, Prodigy
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: was the best rapper in 1995, he didn't disagree with me.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: He said he was tough.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: He said- You can make an argument for sure. There's
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: a lot of people that you can never make an
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: argument for.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: You made such a definitive statement.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 3: It was definitive.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: Well, to me, he was the best rapper.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's got the best verse on The Infamous.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: Big Noid does, in my opinion.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: Big Noid got a classic verse? That's a freestyle. That's
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: like a freestyle more of it.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: That shit is hard.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: Of course it's hard.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: On the Give Up the Good shit. Yeah, right before.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, Pride, every single song Pride, you went crazy.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: Well, no, that's a skit. That's a skit. No, no.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: That's right before Give Up the Goods.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: No, but Give Up the Goods, Noid's got the fucking.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, the verse on there.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: The verse.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: I used to keep a Mac and keep the clack
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: in the engine. Yo, Big Noid... Little's painted it black
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: with crack sale intentions. He was living in Tampa.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: And I met Big Noid at a bar randomly, and
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: I was just.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: Like, Shook Ones is on. Of course.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: The first verse. Top 10 song ever?
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 3: They said best beat of all time.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: I like Keep It Thorough more. Prodigy's verse on Shook Ones.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, how's that not the best? But that's not
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: even the best verse on the album.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: But it's great.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: That's the one. But it's one of the most memorable verses.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: That's the one.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: It's the single.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: It's the lead off. It's the iconic one. Rock Your
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: Face Was Your No Grown. That's like, oh.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: Anyway, I love Prodigy.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: I love Prodigy. I love Ma Deep. I love Prodigy so, like,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: Return of the Mac, when they barely just put it
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: on DSPs, listen, I just.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: Andre, dog.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: When do we, because Kanye has a great discography, when
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: do we stop counting Kanye albums, or are we still
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 3: counting Kanye albums?
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: So, I feel like Kanye's got the best discography ever. Now,
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: allow me to say that I did, it got weird.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: And I think it got weird when Jesus King came out,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: I got that.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: Jesus King, that whole album is trash.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: No, no, there's one song on there. I love water.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: It's got... I love water. There's some great production on there.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: He should have... Remember how he was doing it with
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: the choir?
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: That album's Sunday Service.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: Sunday Service. That's what I thought it was going to be.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: That album was horrible.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: The whole album is trash. I went to see that.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: I went to see Jesus King at the.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: And that's one of my favorite.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: Did it feel culty?
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: I cried in there.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: Damn.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: The whole album is trash.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: Hey, I cried at the SoFi. Night 2 at the SoFi?
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: When he did Ghost Town, I was on mushrooms, fried,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: bawling my eyes out. Oh, my God.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: He did the song or the album?
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: Ghost Town, the song. Okay. That's one of my favorites.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: Songs. And Kanye, to me, he's actually the greatest of
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: all time if you really think about it.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: No, but when do we stop counting his discography?
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: You can't count.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: You can't stop.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: Bully, Bully, that shit was fire.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: Listen, Donda was fire.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: Bully had some shit on him.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: The first one. The first Donda.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: Now, Donda 2 gets a little weird because it's like-
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: Preacher Man, the Preacher Man song?
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: Preacher Man's crazy.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: Yo, that's a hell of a song. Wait, Bully's fire?
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: That Preacher Man shit is classic. I love Bully. Hold on.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: I love Bully.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: Bully's fire.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: I'm just asking if it's a good album.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: I like it a lot.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: The first Bully. No, I really like Bully. No, there
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: was a version that came out on YouTube.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was like the leak.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: That was a leak.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: That to me is better. Let me be on the
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: record saying I really enjoyed Bully.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: The leak to me is better than it.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: You don't like Bully?
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: All the love? He got some shit on there.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: That all the love shit?
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: That Preacher Man shit.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: Preacher Man? All the love?
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: I can't wait.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: I like the version without Lauren. That shit's hard. There's
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: some shit on there.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: He got some shit on there.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: With that being said, I think the Donda 2, and
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: I really like the first Vultures, the second Vultures. Vultures
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: 1 and 2? It might be worse than.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: Vultures 2... Is it worse than what M put out?
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: No. Okay. No, Revival's so bad.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: Don't they got a joke with Rihanna on there? The
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: Rihanna track is on there.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: Revival. No, no, no, no. That was on.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: Does that hate the way you lie?
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: That was on Recovery.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: Revival is like... It's like the worst shit you've ever
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: heard in your life.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: But that's also why Drake is the greatest. See, Kanye
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: is the greatest. Jay-Z is the greatest. Nas is the greatest.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: They all have different reasons of why they're the greatest,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: in my opinion. Drake's greatest... Kendrick is the greatest, too.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: You can make an argument for sure. Kendrick and Drake
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: are the same as far as this is what I'm
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: about to make.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: That's that East Coast hate at that table over there.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: All of these other guys, Jay's probably different.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: I think Jay's the only guy you can't argue against.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: Everybody, their music don't really matter no more as far
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: as what they put out. It's not that it doesn't matter.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: People are going to listen to it, but we're not
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: going to judge it. We're not still putting out fire,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: but we're not going to judge his album. Kanye, I
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: like some of his shit that he's still putting out,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: but it ain't going to stop the world. Drake's shit
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: is still relevant right now. And Drake is damn near
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: 15 years in the game. Just like, J shit's still relevant.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: If J dropped today, it'd be relevant. 100%. 100%. But
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: the vast majority of the legends, like Andre 3000, he
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: came out with the flu shit. It don't matter. Know
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying?
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: By the way, I don't think it was supposed to.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not mean in a disrespectful way. If you put.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: Out a rap album, it don't matter.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: No, it don't. 100%. It's not stopping the world. Look,
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: the fan base that fuck with Andre. It's not going
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: to stop like Jay-Z or Drake. Everybody's going to stop.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: We're all going to listen to this shit right now.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: If Outkast tomorrow says they put out an album next Friday.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: It's going to be the number one album in the country.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: It's going to be a moment. It's going to be
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: number one in the country.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: It's going to be a moment. Bro, bro, bro. Do
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: you understand that Speakerboxx and Love Below is one of
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: the most successful.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: Albums ever released?
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: It is the highest selling hip hop album of all time.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: That came out 25 years ago.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: And it's still the highest selling.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: Don't age me.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: Don't age me. Hey, hey, hey.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: You can't age me like that. It wasn't 25. It
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: was 20 years ago. Not 25.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: I promise you, senior year in high school.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: No, no. Next year will be 25. 24 years ago.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: It came out in 2003. Don't look it up. I'm
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: telling you.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: It came out when I was in prep school, bro.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 3: It came out in 2003. I remember that shit.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: Came out and when the Yankees lost it was 2003
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: bro I told you don't look and by the way
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: 50 cents in that same category Snoop Dogg.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: No 50 ain't in that category chill out what category
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: are you putting him in we ain't putting 50 in
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: the three stacks category.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: Well 50 is a bigger artist than Andre 3000 that's.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: Not true what category biggest album ever Troy you said
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: biggest album ever highest selling album of all time.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: Who's the biggest artist in totality?
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: 50 Cent. Outkast. Outkast.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: As a group? So you're comparing a group? I'm not
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 2: saying a group. I'm saying Andre 3000 is not a
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: bigger artist than 50 Cent.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: Is Outkast a bigger artist?
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: No, they're not. In totality. No, they're not. They're not.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: They're not bigger in totality than 50 Cent.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: So 50's first two albums are incredible.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: That's a different conversation. We have a different conversation. The lyrics,
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: who's the better lyricist.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: He's put out a lot of solo albums.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: Not really a lot. That no one gave a fuck about. Well,
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying is that- That's the category you were saying.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 2: If he puts out music right now- No one will
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: give a fuck. But they're not also going to hold
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: it against him. Eminem. If Eminem puts some shit out
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: right now- Kamikaze. It's not going to ruin his legacy.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: Yo, I ain't going to lie though, the last music
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: to be murdered by was actually silent.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: Kamikaze? No, no, no.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: Kamikaze was terrible.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: Like I said, Dr. Dre drops the Chronic 3. It
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: ain't going... I don't know.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: I can't agree with you there. I think there are
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: artists who we don't... I feel like Rick Ross is
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: kind of in this weird space.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: Nobody give a fuck. Respect me. Shout out to Rosé. Salute.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: By the way, Minx in Miami did really good at radio,
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: but I think that if his album comes out and
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: it isn't a classic or it isn't talked about, we
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: don't hold it against him.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: It don't matter.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: Because he's got Teflon Don.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: Everybody's in that. And like I said- Deeper than rap.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: And it's not even that we're not going to hold
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: it against him. it don't stop the world don't gz
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: drop some shit the world don't stop he got the
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: world don't.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: Stop jay-z drops world stops world stops for sure outcast drops.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: No no it doesn't no it doesn't it's a moment
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 3: i don't know if the world stops it's definitely a
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: moment he lives in atlanta you know that he younger
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: he younger he didn't grow.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: Up the world stopped to him it's future.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: No no he but even him he puts that i
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: was like i do feel like future's kind of gotten
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: into that like weird like he's between the.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: He puts out so much. He's like us old heads,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: like version of the young shit that we love. But
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: that's why Drake, but Drake is an old school rapper
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 2: at this point. If you really think about it, Little Wayne.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: But he's also shown zero growth.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: Little Wayne's another one.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't call him old school yet.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 2: Little Wayne's another one. He put some shit out. You
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: would have to say that. Little Wayne could put some
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: shit out next week.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: It don't matter. Wayne has too many classes.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: It don't matter.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: Wayne could drop the Carter fucking six tomorrow. He's not
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: old school.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: It's Tuesday.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: Because then that would make his contemporaries old school.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: Wayne dropping shit tomorrow is Tuesday.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: So who's stopping the world right now?
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: Drake.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 2: Kendrick Lamar. Yes. Jay-Z.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: As far as rap, hip-hop? J.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: Cole? No.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: How not? When you say stop the world, you mean
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: like a moment, like a big moment? Because if Lil
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: Durk come out of jail right now and drop an album,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: that's going to be some big shit.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's going to care.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: Nah, they're going to care about Lil Durk.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: No, no, people will care, but I just don't think
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: like how you're saying. People will care. Like, it'll be
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: a thing, but like, Unless it's like really good, which like.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: Dirk's album is really good.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: Tyler, the creator? Can we put Tyler in there?
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: It's a big moment. No, because then we can go.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not just saying.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, he's a big moment.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: Let me finish my thought. I'm not just saying who's
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: going to sell records. Rod Wave is going to sell records.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: You could say NBA Youngboy. I'm saying as far as
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: like when the culture... And the culture is still controlled by,
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: the culture is permeated by young people, but the gatekeepers
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: and all that are still older people.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: Is Playboi Carti in that convo?
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 2: No, he's not. That's what I'm saying. There's different demographics
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: as far as selling records.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: When Lion Music came out, it kind of shook up everything.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: It was a moment. No, it didn't. I'm talking about
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: from the highest level of corporate and release and you
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: can't go nowhere. Nobody's doing that. No, if Jay-Z comes
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: out right now, he's going to shut the world down.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 2: Drake shit? Nigga had a fucking ice sculpture in Toronto
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: for three weeks.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: It didn't stop the world. It was a huge.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: Three albums one day.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: It didn't stop the world. It was a huge moment.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: The closest thing to it.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: Let me go.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 3: It was a huge moment because of all the stakes
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: that were against him leading up to it. His campaign leading.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: Up to it.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: Them figuring out the release date of it. It was
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: a huge moment. What is he going to do? How
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 3: is he going to respond? Oh, he gave us one album.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: There's three.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: He gave us all these visuals for it. It was
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: a huge moment. It didn't stop anything, but it was
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: a great response. There's some guys who are going to
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 3: have huge moments. Jay from the corporate side, he has
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: the strings to pull to move.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 3: I would say when Beyonce dropped, it was like, oh shit.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 3: That stopped everything. Because wait, how did she do that?
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 3: Why did she do that? Is this real? Tyler's a guy,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: to your point, that I think has that prowess to
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: make that moment and He's leaning into that corporate realm of, like,
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 3: you see him at Fashion Week. Now you're seeing him
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 3: in retail stores.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's at his own hip-hop festival.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: There's a difference.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: Two-day hip-hop festival in L.A.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: For 11 years in a row. We had this conversation
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: with Mav, Mav Ricardo. There's a difference. And this is
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: the thing. How many superstars are in the NBA?
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: Okay. Superstars?
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: How many superstars in the NBA? Two. Okay, that's a
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: good question. That's a good answer.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: LeBron James and Steph Curry.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: Okay. You're one of the first people that actually answered
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: that correctly. Because most people will say, oh, there's a bunch.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: You got Giannis. You got Kev. Exactly. That's my point.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: There's people that move units, move merch, are crazy big.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: By the way, that is Tyler, the creator, just so
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: we're clear.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: 100%.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: It's Rod Wave. It's NBA Youngboy. It's a variety of
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: different people, for sure. But when you're talking about hip-hop superstars,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: to me, there's only a few. And Tyler the Creator
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 2: is not a superstar in hip-hop because I can't compare
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: him to Drake.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: Or Kendrick Lamar. If you're saying who's the hip-hop superstar,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: if we're looking at it through the NBA lens, then I.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: Think it's three. It's Jay-Z, Drake, and Kendrick Lamar. That's it.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: It's three.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: Now, if we're looking at it through the superstar lens,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: I think that's it.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that doesn't mean he can't have a huge moment.
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: By the way, Cardi B.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. Cardi B is probably saying as far as...
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: She's a superstar, though. She's a superstar as far as
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: her cultural impact and the music that she sold, all
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: that type of shit.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a superstar. She's a superstar.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: But as far as.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: But is she going to have a moment?
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like her album was a moment.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was like... I mean, I
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: feel like it... felt like about as much of a
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: moment as like.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: I think the wait was too long.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: It did very well, man.
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 3: It did do well. And the tour did well. And
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 3: she's about to go on tour again.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think that if we're looking at it,
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: we're all basketball fans here and hip-hop fans, so I
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: think I see what you're saying. Like, that's a different conversation. Now...
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: We got to put some respect on some of these guys' names.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: Like you said, Rod Wave, Youngboy.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: No, they don't.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: Did you guys go to the Youngboy tour?
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 3: No, I did not.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know no Youngboy. You went? Yeah, it was awesome.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: But like I said, it's like the NBA, right? Like Giannis,
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: he's not no slouch. Like Kevin Durant is an all-time.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards, not a slouch.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 2: No, all-time great when it comes to his talent level.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 2: Kevin Durant's an all-time great as far as his career.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: He's top 10 player ever.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: Katie's like Nas. Kind of.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: Well, that's a bad.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: Listen, I don't want to dive too deep into that
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: comparison and how I'm probably wrong, but you know what
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: I'm saying.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: No, all-time great.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: Like, greatest scorer ever, right?
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: Consistent, all-time great. He might be the best scorer of
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: the basketball of all time.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: Quiet. And Nas might be the best, like, you know,
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: writer ever. Right.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: Although he doesn't have the most points.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: True. LeBron does, because LeBron's the greatest of all time.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: And he played longer, too. Oh.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: So he has more opportunities to score points.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, longevity plays a role.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: We'll see. So he has more opportunities to score points
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: and have the all-time record.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: Like, Tyler... Almost like if you were.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: To say somebody has 560 songs as opposed to 130,
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: they're going to have the all-time record.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: Here's how you can gauge.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: They're comparable.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: Here's how you can gauge.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: They are. I agree.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: Here's how you can gauge, once again, rap relevancy as
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: far as superstars. Who can do the Super Bowl? Boy
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: can't do the Super Bowl.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: Who? NBA young boy.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: No, he can't. All of the people that you just named.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: NBA Youngboy. No, I agree.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: The only rappers that could do this.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: No, but what's the kid from Our Future?
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: Hey.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: No, what's his name? Tyler. Tyler Crater. Tyler Crater cannot
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: do Super Bowl.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: Also, if we're going to just say superstars, and mind you,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: music relevancy aside, you got to give it up to Snoop.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: Snoop 100% is a legend.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: Snoop is the most famous person, I think, in America
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: besides Trump.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: He's an icon.
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 3: He's an icon.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: We're talking about music.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: But once again, he dropped the music. He dropped the music. Correct.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: He puts music out and it comes and goes.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 3: Where's the last one that counted?
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: Respectfully.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: It don't even matter, right?
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: It don't matter. I don't think it matters. It don't
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 2: matter because he's Snoop. But Snoop can't do the Super
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: Bowl either, though.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: He did.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: No, he did it with Dr.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: Dre and 50 and Mary J.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: Blige. But he was there.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: He was on the stage. Kendrick's done it twice. It's true.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about as a solo. Kendrick's the only, right?
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: No, no. Bruno Mars.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: No, hip-hop rapper. He's the only rapper.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, rapper, yeah. I thought you said the only person.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, would you consider, I mean, Black Eyed Peas
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: is technically a hip-hop group.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: No, no, no.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about rap, rap, rap.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: It's Kendrick.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 2: Kendrick Lamar is the only rapper in history to solo
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: do Super Bowl. Yeah. That's an accomplishment.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 100%.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: There's only a few that can, like Kanye can do
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: it if it wasn't for all of the other shit
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: that he's done.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: Who was the first rapper to be on there? To
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: be on what? Super Bowl stage. To be on it?
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: Nelly. Was it Nelly?
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: Nelly was on the Super Bowl. But as a guest, though.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: As a guest of somebody.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: That makes sense, Nelly. Yeah, I think I remember. Yeah.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: Nelly's the first.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: Big Boy was on there, too. No disrespect to Tyler,
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: the creator.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: Oh. Wait, who?
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: He was with Travis, though.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: Who was it, though?
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: Big Boy. From what? It was in Atlanta. Where's Big Boy? No, Outkast.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: We know that. Big Boy from Outkast? Yeah, Andre 3000
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: was in. Is that the same group that has the
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: greatest selling album in hip-hop history? They do. Outkast.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 3: 100%.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. All right. Who's the woman?
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: No disrespect to Tyler, the creator. By the way... But
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 2: just understand that he's not... Tyler, the creator, and Trey,
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: because it's two different... No, no.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: I didn't say that they were in the same... I'm
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: just saying.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: He's not a superstar. There's three... There's four superstars.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: I would put Tyler in the realm of a J.
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: Cole right now.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: There's four superstars in rap.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: No, I think there's... Three with the argument for Cardi
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: is four.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 3: I think there's... Cardi A.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: West.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 3: I think he is a superstar.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 2: Forever a superstar.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: We didn't even think about that.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 3: No, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: Forever a superstar.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 3: You're right. I think they are superstars, but then you
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 3: have megastars. And Jay is a megastar.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: Well, I think the NBA comparison is perfect. Those guys
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: are megastars. There's all-stars, there's all-NBA, and then there's like.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: Superstars.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: We didn't even say yay, which was wrong. Yay, that's
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: a mega-mega, right? Like, Braun and Curry, they're out of here.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean that.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: That doesn't mean Anthony.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 3: Edwards isn't a superstar.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: He is.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 3: He's just not a megastar. Those guys are out of
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 3: this world.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: No, no, it's just out of this world.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: That's why I like having you guys on.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 3: It's a conversation. Jordan is out of here. Beyonce is
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 3: a megastar.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: Back to some financial stuff. Let's do it. Let's do it.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 3: How many streams equal $ 1, 000? I don't.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 2: Know.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: Spotify?
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: I'm just joking. Well, a million streams is about $ 3, 800
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: on Spotify.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: $ 3, 800.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: Wow. And they pay a lot. Well, they pay. Tidal
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: pays the best. And then Apple and then Spotify.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: Cause I think, um, yeah, Spotify is terrible when it
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: comes to paying people, but I mean, I love Spotify.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: That's what I use. So, you know, um, all right.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: So I want to ask you guys, um, about diversification.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: If somebody is trying to, let's say someone's got a
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars, right. And they can only do certain things,
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: whether it's the stock market. I just saw a conversation, uh,
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: with Ian and somebody talking about, uh, uh, Ian from
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: Joe Budden, uh, was having, yeah, well, No. Ish.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: Ish.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: Ish. Ish was having an argument about homeownership versus stocks.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: I saw a show.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: With your guys. Yeah, with you guys, right? And he
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: was saying that he had... You said that you knew
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: a part of New Jersey. One of y'all believed him
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: when he said it was five.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: So we have another partner that's Market Monday's Ian. Yeah,
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: of course, Ian.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: Ian believed him.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: But he was saying that real estate is... a better
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: option to invest in as opposed to the stock market.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: And Ian's argument, I actually kind of agreed with because
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: it's a lot easier from an entry point. If I
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: got $ 500, I could get into the stock market. I
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: can't buy a piece of property. Like definitively, where do
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: you guys stand with that? Like I said, I got
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: some money. I need to do something with it. Where
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: are you putting it? I'm in the market.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 3: I'm always in the market. I think historically it will
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: show you that, you know, the level of return on
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: a compounded interest side, it can't be beat. Real estate, obviously,
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 3: when you talk about wealth from American families, a lot
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 3: of it was built, but that was a certain time
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 3: in our country. It's much tougher from an entry standpoint,
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: like you said, at this point for somebody to say,
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 3: I'm going to build, I'm going to get a home,
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 3: and I'm going to hold it for 30 years, and
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 3: hopefully it gains in equity when you're talking about the
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 3: price of homes being at the state that they're at,
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 3: whereas the entry, like you said, to get into the
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 3: stock market and hold on to a company whether it's
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 3: an NVIDIA or an AMD or an Apple or Microsoft,
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 3: and just let that grow on compounded interest, I mean,
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 3: you can't beat that, man. Or just have it in
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 3: an index fund, like the S & P that, you know,
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 3: has only returned 9% to 10% a year.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: And there's, like, a difference between that and, like, I
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: think some people get, like, we're living in, like, this, like, crazy, like,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: gambling atmosphere where people are trying to hit parlays and shit.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: And I feel like a lot of people get into
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: the stock market with the same kind of approach as
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: opposed to be, because you'll see, like, You know, man,
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: I'm down. Like, you know, some of these, like, highly
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: publicized days where the market takes a shit. It's like, yeah,
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter. Are you selling? Like, it's for
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: the long run. And I do think that romanticization of
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: whatever we grew up thinking the American dream is, for
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: most people, is just unobtainable now.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's changed.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: Like, money's so expensive right now to buy a house.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 3: Just to even have a down payment for a home.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: It's such a luxury. It's crazy.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 3: So how many people get alienated from that, whereas somebody
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: can actually build that wealth? $ 500, 000, $ 100, 000. Or if you've
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 3: got $ 1, 000, somebody can start with that from an interest standpoint.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 3: If they have the education, they can scale that. And
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 3: you can scale that within.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: 12 months, right?
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 3: Like if you're invested in some of these growth companies.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 3: Whereas it's tough for me to, hey, even if it
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 3: was an FHA loan where I'm putting 3.5% down, if
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 3: the house is $ 500, 000, I don't have 3.5%. It's just
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 3: not going to happen for me. So how can they
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 3: build wealth? Investment would be the answer for me.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: You agree?
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I think it's from an entry standpoint.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: Real estate is great too, but it's just a lot
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: more complicated and there's a lot that goes into earning
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: real estate, even if you're looking at it from a
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: landlord or investment. Passive income is something that's been talked
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: about a lot, but it's not as easy as it's
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: made out to be.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, things break. Tenants can suck. Evicting people is hard.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 3: What's your interest rate?
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 3: A lot of people don't even know what their credit
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 3: score is, let alone like when you try to apply
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 3: and they're like, hey, your interest rate. I saw on
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: the news they said interest rates are at 7%. Well,
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 3: you have a 630 credit score. Your interest rate is
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 3: going to be 9%.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah. Like I bought a crib four years ago
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: in Burbank and I think my rate's like 3.1. And
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, we ain't never selling this fucking stuff. Like,
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: this shit's staying with us. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: It's going to be a while before we get back
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: to it. Do you guys feel like we're... Because I
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: think back to, like, the last financial crisis in 08
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: and how, like, the housing market took a shit and
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: it turned into, like, a lot of buying opportunities for people.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: Do you guys feel like with the war, with the
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: way the economy is kind of going, are we, like...
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: Are we heading towards a massive... financial crisis in the
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: country that that in your guys's opinion like are we
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: just i feel like there's and if so if you
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: do believe that there should be a way for you
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: to prepare for that to put yourself in a position
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: to win when that.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: Happens yeah it's gonna be i mean i think it's
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: just there's 60 minutes was just talking about it they
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: was talking to the economists as far as to say
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: that unemployment is going to triple if we don't do
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: something relatively soon because you got artificial taking artificial intelligence
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: is going to take so.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: Many jobs Especially low-end jobs. Yeah, for sure.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: Low-end but high-end jobs as well. Artificial intelligence is going
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: to take a lot of jobs. Colleges are in trouble.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: Enrollment is down. People can't get jobs. That's a whole
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: different conversation within itself. Then you have inflation, which is
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: going up at rapid historical levels. Doesn't look like it's
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: slowing down anytime soon. Houses are becoming more unaffordable, so
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: And then our debt is at an all-time high, and
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: it just keeps going up. Yeah, the debt shit is insane. Yeah,
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: so all of that leads to, at some point in time,
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: there's going to be some pain because it's just not
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: sustainable long-term, so you've got to make changes. You're going
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: to have to really cut back on government spending. You're
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: going to have to raise taxes. You're going to have
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: to look at how housing is priced, who's controlling housing.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: You're going to have to really, you know, do things
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: to employ people or put money in people's pocket, right,
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: so they can actually live. So there's going to be
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 2: an adjustment in the economy for sure, not just in America, globally.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: So in the meantime, that's why you want to save
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: as much money, invest as much money as possible, you know,
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: put yourself in the best possible scenario. I don't think
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: anybody really knows exactly what it's going to look like
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 2: in 10 years, but it's a lot of concerning things. Yeah.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of concerning things when you look at
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: all of those factors and other factors that I didn't name.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: But none of those things are good when you look
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: at long-term projections.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's why you've got to distinguish between
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 3: the market and the economy for all those reasons. But,
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 3: you know, the housing thing is a real situation. And
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 3: I think the only way to solve it is to
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 3: obviously build more. Because if I build more, then it
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 3: becomes more affordable for more people. But when people see that,
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 3: they're like, well, how are we going to do that?
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: Especially when our president is joking around about like- His 5,000? No,
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: he said something about housing affordability. He just doesn't give
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: a fuck. It's like, what are we doing?
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 3: And if he don't, then the people that are making
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 3: the policies don't either.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: So it's tough.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 3: So, yeah, you got to invest. But, I mean, if
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 3: real estate is going to be something that you're looking
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 3: into and you can't invest in buying a home, then
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 3: maybe you're investing in a company that is actually part
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 3: of the infrastructure build-out for new homes, which is a REIT.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 3: So there's opportunities. We just have to be educated on
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 3: which one's the best for us.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: Next year, have you guys already started planning an InvestFest?
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: We're always planning an InvestFest year-round, really.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: Still want to be in Atlanta?
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, that's not determined yet. Still trying to figure out.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: We could use it in L.A.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: L.A. would be nice. Everybody keeps saying that. Or Vegas
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: would be kind of a place. I'm always down to
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: go to Vegas.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: Viva Las Vegas.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: Get a bunch of entrepreneurs in a casino. Perfect place.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: Before I let you guys go, you guys have been
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: here for a minute. Thank you guys for coming through.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: Two questions. If you had to invest in any stock long-term,
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: and what stock do you think that's on sale right
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: now is a good buy? So two separate stocks from
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: each of you, if you don't mind.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: Individual stock. I think the company I'm going to say
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 3: answers both questions.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: Okay. And it's going to be Nvidia. Still? Still.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 3: If you look at their forward projections in terms of
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 3: gross margins, you know, CEO Jensen Wong said 75% for 2027, 75%
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 3: for 2028. For a company that's already at $ 6 trillion,
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can just do the math on where
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 3: that's headed. So when you see it here, trading at
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 3: a PE ratio of like 20 compared to its competitors,
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 3: which is like 27, 28 times forward earnings.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: You see it here as a discount.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 3: So if it sits at two, I think today we
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 3: closed somewhere in the 230s, you're looking at this as
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 3: a great opportunity, especially for a company that has that
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 3: forward growth trajectory. So I love NVIDIA for the next
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 3: five to 10 years. Their lead is so far ahead
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 3: in what they do in terms of hardware and software
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 3: for the AI story, and they're at the center of
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 3: everything from an investment standpoint and investing in the companies
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 3: that are going to be leading and building the hardware
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 3: that is going to lead us in the future.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: So definitely NVIDIA for me. What about you? You can't cheat.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: You already said it.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: TSM is a company that's a very important Taiwan semiconductor,
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: a very important ecosystem when it comes to computer chips
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: and all of this AI technology that's being built out.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: And they have factories in my hometown in Phoenix.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: Arizona?
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's crazy because now we have direct flights to
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 1: Taiwan from Phoenix, which is diabolical. It's crazy.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: In the middle of the desert.
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: 18-hour flight.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: 18-hour flight. So TSM.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 2: TSM for sure. And then as far as what's still
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: at a relatively lower price point, I mean, there's a bunch. Microsoft,
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: I think, had a rough couple of years. But you
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 2: look at Bitcoin as well, right? And everybody's, you know,
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: Bitcoin is on a rally, but It's still down 30%, 40%
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: from its all-time high of 120. Yeah, a couple years ago,
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: it was 120,000.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: Well, I just remember when Trump got announced as the winner.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: I just remember being like.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like two years ago.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: It was crazy.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: By the way, that tells you how wild this last
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: two years have been. It's only been two years?
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So if you believe in the Bitcoin story and
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 2: you think it's going to get to a million dollars
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: one day, if you really truly do believe that, then,
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: you know, I think under 100,000 is definitely on sale.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: But we got a new book coming out, too. I
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: wanted to mention that before we left. So it's called
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 2: Get Rich From Relationships.
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: I have your other book. You Deserve to Be Rich. Yes,
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: I gave it to my son, too. I read it,
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: and I told my kid to read it.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: Appreciate it. So, yeah, we got a new one coming
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: out in January, and this one is about relationships.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, shit.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 2: Get Rich From Relationships.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: I think I always tell anybody who has ever been
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: around me, I always say, like, nurture and water your
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: relationships like they're flowers. Vitally important. It's so important. And like,
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: that's the whole, I don't want to be a complex con, bro.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: But the whole reason I go to a complex con
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: is just to say hi to people.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: Relationships.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: That I wouldn't see otherwise. That's what I said, we
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: saw each other. And I was like, yo, come back
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: on the show.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 2: And you never know, all it takes is one. All
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: it takes is one.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: Relationships are the most important currency we have outside of,
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, obviously family, love, money, you know.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 2: And it's not taught.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: It's not taught, man.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: That's the great thing. Most people think that relationships is
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: just random or you just wing it. But there's an
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 2: actual science to it. Like if you read the book,
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: How to Win Friends and Influence People, that's a very influential,
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: one of the best-selling books of all time. The reason
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: why I think it was so influential is because, once again,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: it served a need. And that was over 40, 50
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: years ago. Served a need that was never actually taught.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 2: And you're trying to scale. And you can always link
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: back relationships to any successful person. Like they have powerful relationships.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 2: And that's something that most people just have to try
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: to figure out on their own. So our thing, this
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: is 2026. So much has changed since that book came out.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: So everything that we learned before Earn Your Leisure, during
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 2: Earn Your Leisure, on our journey, how we get the
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: top people at InvestFest every single year, how we've been
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: able to navigate, how we've been able to connect with
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 2: so many billionaires through our journey. It's not just by
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 2: a random walk in the park or by accident. There's actual...
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: science behind it and we put it all.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: In a book. Even you going to China for a week.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, what are the relationships that came out of that.
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: Trip that you still use to this day? To this day.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 3: Think about the time that we're in. Like you said,
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 3: that book was written for that time. But think of
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 3: the current time we're in. I just saw a study
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 3: that they said that the average millennial is spending 122 days,
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 3: consecutive days, looking at a phone screen.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: Think about how many.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: Per year?
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: Per year.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 3: Think about how many hours you're spending a week And
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 3: if you run those consecutively, it's 122 days. The second
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 3: part of the study was like if you spend 145
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 3: of those days sleeping, right, because if we sleep eight
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 3: hours or 11 hours, that means we only have 100
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 3: something days. How much time is left?
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: That we have.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 3: So we're here most of the day that we don't
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 3: know how to develop relationships.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: We don't know how to.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 3: Talk to people because we're doing this and we're doing this.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 3: And so it's an important time, especially for young kids
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 3: who came out of a pandemic. where they weren't isolated.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: 100%, bro.
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 3: We didn't get to go to the playground. We weren't
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 3: playing outside. And you don't see kids playing outside now.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: The pandemic really fucked up a lot of kids' trajectory socially. Exactly.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 3: So this is the book for this time.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: Is there a specific relationship you guys can kind of
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: pinpoint that was very important to the growth of EYL
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: and your guys' brand early on?
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 3: I always say that all the relationships that we developed
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 3: are important, but this relationship here.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: It's the most important.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 2: 100%. Right?
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 3: Like, I've known him since he's 12 years old.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 3: This is going over 30-plus years, and it's something that
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 3: we've been super intentional about throughout the course of our
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 3: friendship and our brotherhood. And a lot of people overlook
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 3: it because they always see us together, and they don't understand. Like, no,
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 3: it takes work. It takes sacrifice. It takes, you know,
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 3: goal setting and putting the egos to the side in
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 3: order for this to be something that's beneficial for us
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 3: but for everybody that's watching as well. So I always
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 3: start with our relationship, and everything else is a byproduct
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 3: of that.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we got a bunch of relationships. But,
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: you know, you said early on. So, Matt Garland, that
• 1:57:49
  Speaker 2: was a relationship that I actually developed a relationship with
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: him before we started Earn Your Leisure. And he's a
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 2: real estate mortgage broker. And early in Earn Your Leisure. So,
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: I spoke at his conference early. Like, this is like
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 2: five episodes in Earn Your Leisure. And then from his conference,
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 2: I met... a bunch of people, other people that were
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: speaking at his conference. And those became the first guests
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 2: that we had. The first three or four guests were
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 2: people that I met at his conference. And a lot
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: of them, some of them we still have relationships to
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 2: this day, like Ms. Business, who's become our CPA, but
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 2: also the biggest vendor at InvestFest. Mm-hmm. She speaks at
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 2: Invest Fest every year. We do an episode with her
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: at least once a year. But he also introduced us
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 2: to DJ Envy. Envy was the first celebrity that we
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: had on the show. And then since then, obviously, we've
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 2: had a bunch of celebrities. But that opened up, you know,
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 2: like the Breakfast Club, it didn't come from Envy. But,
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 2: you know, we met him.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: Of course.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: And, you know, so, you know, now we kind of
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: moved in that world of entertainment a little bit from that.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 2: And then, you know, it just makes it easier. Like,
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: once you get one, then the next person gets easier,
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 2: then the next person gets easier, and there's a proof
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: of concept, and they can say, okay, this person did it,
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 2: this person did it, this person did it. So, you know,
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: he was definitely integral in the relationship aspect early, early on,
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: and earned your leisure, and you're still here to this day.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you guys are right, though, about, like,
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: trying to... Because I feel like there's an art to networking, because, like...
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: even if you're an up-and-coming artist, I always tell people, like, yo, like,
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: depending on how you approach me, it will determine on
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: whether or not, like, I, it's, you know what I'm saying? Like,
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: someone runs up on you with some, some dude at
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 1: ComplexCon was like, yo, man, I need to get on
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: your shit. And I was like, all right, yo, what's
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 1: your number? And I was like, just hit me on Instagram.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 3: He's like, bro, you don't know who I am?
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: And I was like, no, dog. Yeah, we watched it happen. Like, what?
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 3: We would, with Don Cannon and, Same thing happened. Dude
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 3: was like, yo, how I get my beats to you, bro?
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 3: He's like, nah, bro. How I get my beats to you?
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 1: It's like, what? The fuck? How about you introduce yourself?
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: It was crazy, man.
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  Speaker 3: They just need teaching.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 1: So is the book up for pre-order yet? Definitely. It's
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 1: up for pre-order.
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 3: It will drop January 26th of 2027. So first quarter,
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 3: top of the year. you know, everybody's trying to figure
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 3: out what they're going to do, what's their New Year's resolution.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 3: It's an important book to go into the New Year's resolution.
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 2: But you can get the pre-order now. That's important. You
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 2: get the pre-order now.
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: We got to make you guys another New York Times bestseller.
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 2: Vitally important. So you can get the pre-order, physical copy,
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 2: and digital, but physical copy encouraged because, you know, it
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 2: stays with you and you retain it more.
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: Also very complimentary book to the first book.
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 2: Exactly. So it's art, too. It's blue. Everything that we do,
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 2: it's in line with the, you know, it's a theme.
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 2: right so the first one was designed as far as
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 2: like a personal finance book you just it's called you
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 2: deserve to be rich and the font is like the
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 2: ilmatic font and it's black with gold writing the next
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 2: one this one that we currently have is blue and
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 2: it's white writing but the same ilmatic font and it's
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 2: called get rich from relationships so it's the relationship theme
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 2: which is like It's in line. This is the second
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 2: of a series. And I always thought that Nas' campaign
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 2: was so dope when he first came out with the Illmatic.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 2: It was written, I am, and Nostradamus. It was the
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 2: same album with different pictures.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like a baby picture.
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 2: It was a baby picture of him in his 20s.
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 2: Queensbridge is the background. Then it was the Pharaoh. Then
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 2: it was the Nostradamus with the robe on. But it
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 2: was the same picture. So, you know, I always thought
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 2: that that was like a dope way to do it. Like, so,
• 2:01:56
  Speaker 2: I say this to say, the physical is actually art
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 2: as well. This one, we calling it the blue book. So,
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 2: like the purple tape.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: It's the blue book.
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Nip.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Nip. Is it Nipsey Blue?
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 2: Nipsey Blue, for sure.
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: Fire.
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 2: For sure, it's Nipsey Blue.
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 1: So.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 2: It's the blue book. So now, like, you know, you
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 2: got to, it's going to be, you know.
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: That's fire.
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 2: It's one of these things you put on your wall
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 2: and have your rich series.
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 1: People could just pre-order on Amazon or? Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 2: You go to earnyourleisure.com, all the links. Amazon, Barnes & Noble,
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 2: you know, the whole gambit.
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 1: You guys still got the university? Yes, sir.
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 2: EYLuniversity.com. All the information is there for sure.
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 1: Go support. Pre-order the book. Looking forward to you guys
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 1: bringing EYL to the West Coast eventually. West, West.
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 2: Gotta do it.
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 1: Or InvestFest, right? InvestFest West?
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 2: InvestFest West.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: Invest West?
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 2: Invest West.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 1: Let's go. Let's get it.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 3: We might got something there.
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 1: I think, I think, you guys probably already thought of that.
• 2:02:56
  Speaker 1: But to be, yeah, that'd be, that'd be awesome. But
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 1: appreciate you guys always, man. Follow these guys. Pre-order the book.
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 1: Thank you guys for pulling up.
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 3: I appreciate you having us, man. Hopefully next time we'll
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 3: have more albums with 2026.
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 1: I hope so. And, yeah, please, Just go listen to
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  Speaker 1: OutKast on the plane. On your way back to New York,
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  Speaker 1: download the Discovery.
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  Speaker 3: It's him and I, Quim and I.
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  Speaker 1: Come on. Appreciate you guys.
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