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The Dark Knight part 2 · Cuff’s Basement

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  Speaker 1: Oh they'll be coming up later, Ryan, trust me, I
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  Speaker 1: have some notes. But where we left off is the
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  Speaker 1: movie has now begun. We only got to the opening
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  Speaker 1: credits in part one, which might be a first.
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  Speaker 2: I think Gangs to York we did the similar thing.
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  Speaker 2: I think we got like the first opening scene.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, another great opening of a movie.
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  Speaker 2: But uh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The bat signals in the sky and a drug dealer
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  Speaker 1: is about to sell drugs and he goes, nah, not tonight, man,
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  Speaker 1: and this guy says, come on, you're more likely to
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  Speaker 1: win the power ball, and he means then get attacked
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  Speaker 1: by the Batman for dealing drugs, which is probably true
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  Speaker 1: mm hm. And Jim is with his cop buddies and
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  Speaker 1: someone says where is Rodriguez, who's the female cop, And
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  Speaker 1: it's casually mentioned her mother's in the hospital, But you
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  Speaker 1: listener and viewer pocket that in your old brain because
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  Speaker 1: it's foreshadowing. Ryan there.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I love in this part too, when they're they
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  Speaker 2: have like Aman a Batman team of like cops who
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  Speaker 2: are like on the Batman case, and I love the
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  Speaker 2: on the Wall Batman suspects are Elvis, Abraham Lincoln, and Bigfoot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that is that is great. So Jim is
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  Speaker 1: just shining the bat signal and he says he's not
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  Speaker 1: gonna come. Uh, And they said why you know, why
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  Speaker 1: shine it if you know he doesn't come? He says
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  Speaker 1: sometimes I like to do that keeps the criminals on
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  Speaker 1: their toes. And somebody says, well, why wouldn't he come?
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  Speaker 1: And Jim says, hopefully he's busy, and they go, Jim,
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  Speaker 1: you're talking like him again.
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  Speaker 2: Are you Batman?
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  Speaker 1: No, he says hopefully he's busy. And Ryan, why don't
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  Speaker 1: you explain because you love when he pops up later
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  Speaker 1: in the franchise, So why don't you explain this whole
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  Speaker 1: sequence and scene?
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  Speaker 2: Sure, so we cut to a like a parking garage
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  Speaker 2: and we have Richie Coster, who people probably know from
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  Speaker 2: tons of movies as ah, I think he's one of
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  Speaker 2: the Italian gangsters right or no, no, I'm sorry he's
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  Speaker 2: checking in.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, I was gonna say, yeah, isn't he one of
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  Speaker 1: the chechens?
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  Speaker 2: I got the quote later in the movie Mixed Up,
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  Speaker 2: and he's like, look what your look what your products
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  Speaker 2: due to my customers. And he's talking to a guy
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  Speaker 2: coming out of a van, and the guy come out
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  Speaker 2: of the van is Scarecrow in the full costume, the mask,
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  Speaker 2: the suit. He's like, I told you my product would
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  Speaker 2: take you places, not necessarily places you would want to go.
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  Speaker 2: And he's like, you can buy from someone else if
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  Speaker 2: Batman has left them anyone else here. They then hear
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  Speaker 2: a noise and they all kind of get suspicious and figure, okay,
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  Speaker 2: someone's here. We see a shadow of a Batman standing there,
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  Speaker 2: and the chest in Gangster is like, my dogs are hungry,
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  Speaker 2: so come and get us. And then this batman pulls
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  Speaker 2: out a gun and shoot at them, so then it
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  Speaker 2: starts a whole shootout.
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  Speaker 1: I love that when when Batman pulls out a gun
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  Speaker 1: and shoots at them, Crane yells it's not him, Like
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  Speaker 1: Crane knows, Scarecrow knows.
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  Speaker 2: It's definitely not him. And then I love the Batmobile
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  Speaker 2: at the Tumbler just fucking destroys a wall of the
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  Speaker 2: garage and just bursts in and he goes, that's more
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  Speaker 2: like it, though, that was great. And the Tumbler is
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  Speaker 2: just kind of like shooting like pockets to like a
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  Speaker 2: distract everybody, and it's like blowing up parts of the
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  Speaker 2: garage and then they cut you inside the tumbler and
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  Speaker 2: it says intimidate, and he realized that the tumblr is
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  Speaker 2: like working on its own. And we see one of
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  Speaker 2: the Batman come out of the darkness with a rifle
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  Speaker 2: and we show the real Batman grab it and bend it,
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  Speaker 2: which is great.
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  Speaker 1: I like that she excuses because this is this is
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  Speaker 1: supposed to show how he's progresses Batman, although he like
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  Speaker 1: loses to dogs in this scene, which maybe he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: agress so much. But he bends the gun with his hand,
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  Speaker 1: so he has some sort of like super strength device
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  Speaker 1: in his gauntlets now. And then also he jumps onto
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  Speaker 1: the Scarecrow's van and slices it open with a gadget
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  Speaker 1: that shoots out of his wrist.
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  Speaker 2: His wrist, so awesome.
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  Speaker 1: That was really really cool, uh, and I I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to so he basically like he's trying to capture the Scarecrow.
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  Speaker 1: The Scarecrow basically you know, like shakes him off the car,
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  Speaker 1: hits drives him into a pole actually and uh, and
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  Speaker 1: then he has this grit like explain where he jumps
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  Speaker 1: down the parking garage. I thought this was so sick yep.
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  Speaker 2: So he sees like he can't catch up with him
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  Speaker 2: on foot, so he waits for the van to perfectly
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  Speaker 2: come out of the driveway or so the driving whatever
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  Speaker 2: spiral driveway of the garage and just jumps and crushes
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  Speaker 2: the front of the van when he lands on it.
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  Speaker 2: And he then arrests the Chechen gangsters get away, and
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  Speaker 2: he arrests the fake Batman's which is fucking genius.
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  Speaker 1: I have to say this line in the voice Ryan,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna say, do it to it.
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  Speaker 1: So Batman says, don't catch me out here again, and
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  Speaker 1: the fake Batman says, we're just trying to help you.
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  Speaker 1: What's the difference between you and me? We're the and
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  Speaker 1: then Batman turns, looks and and goes, I'm not wearing
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  Speaker 1: hockey pads.
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  Speaker 2: Got a massive laugh in our theater, massive laugh. I
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  Speaker 2: also just love this idea of like putting this in
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  Speaker 2: the movie, that people would try to copy him. It
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  Speaker 2: is such a great idea. It's such a great idea.
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  Speaker 1: Oh oh, there would obviously be copycats of Batman, because
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  Speaker 1: this is another example of how he changed the game,
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  Speaker 1: which this movie talks about. So Batman appears in the
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  Speaker 1: bank vault with Jim Gordon. Jim Gordon is investigating the
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  Speaker 1: robbery we talked about in first one in part one
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  Speaker 1: of the Dark Knight Pod and I gotta say it, Ryan,
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  Speaker 1: You're just wrong. The fat neck looks so stupid. It
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  Speaker 1: looks awful. The fat Neck from Batman begins. You think
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  Speaker 1: that the Dark Knight suit is worse. I just think
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  Speaker 1: you're This is like a cinnamon raisin bagel. Take in
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  Speaker 1: my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see. Time will prove me right, Okay, see okay,
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not going to fall through on that one.
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  Speaker 2: I wrote. This is the animated series, just these two
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  Speaker 2: standing in the bank talking about this crime. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: this is It's everything you want.
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  Speaker 1: It was all Batman fans across the world had a
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  Speaker 1: boner in this scene. Batman just saying talking to him,
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  Speaker 1: and Jim's like, we can tie the mob money to
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  Speaker 1: the bank, and Batman says, the Joker can wait because
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  Speaker 1: we can take down the entire mob. Jim says, well,
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  Speaker 1: the new district Attorney will want in, and Batman asked,
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  Speaker 1: do you trust him? And Jim says, I heard, he's
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  Speaker 1: as stubborn as you are. And then Batman disappears perfectly
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  Speaker 1: as he should, just like the animated series. It's he
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  Speaker 1: is now fully Batman. There's not like the I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm doing aspect of Batman begins.
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  Speaker 2: And we have their whole partnership now like on a
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  Speaker 2: level where like he's including him on these things. They're
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  Speaker 2: working together. It's so gray.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, and Alfred is driving to a shipping container in
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  Speaker 1: the middle of a construction site. I thought this was
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  Speaker 1: so brilliant because, first of all, like Batman would kind
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  Speaker 1: of want mobile bat caves or like just random satellite
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  Speaker 1: batcaves throughout Gotham. It's not convenient to go to the
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  Speaker 1: outskirts of Gotham to Wayne manor every time. But Wayne
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  Speaker 1: Man are also burned down.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I liked how it isn't fully restored. I like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, can you describe the new bat cave in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of Gotham City.
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  Speaker 2: So it's under the shipping container and it's way down
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  Speaker 2: in the ground, and it's much more of like a
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  Speaker 2: almost like a shelter. I would say, like a bomb
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  Speaker 2: shelter looking kind of thing. It's very well lit. It's
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  Speaker 2: very sleekily designed where everything's underground and rises up and
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  Speaker 2: it's just this long, white and beige room. So it's
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  Speaker 2: very temporary but looks functional.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very it doesn't look like a cave. It's
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  Speaker 1: very modern and bright. But it just works. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how to describe it. It just works.
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  Speaker 1: And Alfred doesn't like it. He says it will be
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  Speaker 1: host when Wayne Manna is rebuilt. That's my terrible Michael Kane.
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  Speaker 2: I go without that one the whole time. Please love it.
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  Speaker 1: But Bruce is saying my armor is carrying too much weight.
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  Speaker 1: I'm too heavy. I need to be faster. He also
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  Speaker 1: mentions that Harvey Dent is the new district attorney. Bruce
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  Speaker 1: is trying to figure him out. It's mentioned that the
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  Speaker 1: love of Bruce's life, Rachel, is dating Harvey Dent, so
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  Speaker 1: that's probably not convenient for this situation. And a great
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  Speaker 1: shot that I remember Paul loved was when Christian Bale
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  Speaker 1: takes his shirt off and you see his back and
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  Speaker 1: his back is covered in like active bruises. But it's
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  Speaker 1: also covered in just disgusting burns and scars, and he
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  Speaker 1: just looks like shit because he's been beat up so
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  Speaker 1: badly already.
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  Speaker 2: I think this takes place of what it takes place
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  Speaker 2: a year in to him being Batman.
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  Speaker 1: Right, I have no idea if it's but I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was, like, maybe I have no idea. You could
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  Speaker 1: have told me it was one year, three years, five years,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, doesn't jokers say a year ago? You guys like
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  Speaker 2: when he's talking to the gangsters later.
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  Speaker 1: H You're totally right. That's a great point.
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  Speaker 2: But so I like how this is still like rough
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  Speaker 2: draft Batman even though you're getting all this great Batman stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the next scene, I believe it's just Harvey talking
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  Speaker 1: to Rachel. Rachel is now played by Maggie jillan All.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So, as you mentioned in the last plot about
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  Speaker 2: the whole recasting, they cast Maggie Jillen Hall in the
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  Speaker 2: role I think at the time she was most known for.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's the secretary.
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  Speaker 1: Secretary was her breakout role. She's Jill's sister. Also they
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  Speaker 1: used to date, but secretary.
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  Speaker 2: And wait, I don't know what else she was.
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  Speaker 1: This is the biggest role. I think she's probably ever had, I.
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  Speaker 2: Think popularity wise. Yeah, she's become a I think a
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  Speaker 2: very good director. Actually, I didn't even know that. She
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  Speaker 2: did that movie with Oh My God. With oh she
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  Speaker 2: won for the favorite Olivia Coleman and Daquota Johnson was
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  Speaker 2: a Netflix movie. Was very good. But yeah, she's been
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  Speaker 2: directing a lot herself. Yeah, so she is.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, she was in Ceacill Be Demented with John Waters.
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: Really is that's Jo Waters right, be Demented?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that is.
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  Speaker 1: She was in that. She was in Secretary Riding in
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  Speaker 1: Cars with Boys, Forty Days, Forty Nights adaptation Confessions of
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  Speaker 1: a Dangerous Mind mont Lisa's Smile.
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  Speaker 2: Of course a year before this Monster House, The Master.
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  Speaker 1: Monster House, World Trade Center, Stranger than Fiction. Yes, so
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: you know, is she a fine sub for Katie Holmes. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I'm I have no problem with this. I mean she's
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  Speaker 1: probably better.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it definitely lifts more. I still think
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  Speaker 2: the character itself is not amazing, but yeah, she's a
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  Speaker 2: good job with what she has.
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  Speaker 1: She does a good job. But but Harvey said, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they're in court, and Harvey says, do you want to
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  Speaker 1: give like the you know what's I'm blanking? Eric will
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  Speaker 1: be so mad at me. The opening statement to the judge,
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  Speaker 1: what is that? What is it called?
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  Speaker 2: No? Is it an opening statement?
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  Speaker 1: Is it is that? Right? I don't know lawyers? Right
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  Speaker 1: right in and he says, we'll flip for it. That's
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  Speaker 1: it's my lucky coin. It's how I got my first
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  Speaker 1: date with you. And right away I remembered, oh like that.
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  Speaker 1: The whole joke is it's a trick coin. So whenever
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  Speaker 1: Harvey flips, he's not actually flipping. He knows he's gonna win. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So he's saying that he tricked Rachel and says I'll
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: flip a coin and if it's heads, then we go
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  Speaker 1: on a date. So he is he's a lawyer guy.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is what its title is.
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  Speaker 2: He says he makes his own luck.
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  Speaker 1: Much like Billy's a and Titanic. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: random casting in this that surprises me. One is Eric
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  Speaker 1: Roberts is Salvator and morony.
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  Speaker 2: It works so well. I gotta say, like, I'm I'm
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  Speaker 2: like why, I'm like you watched I'm like, yep, it works.
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  Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of like this is a comic
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  Speaker 1: book movie. But it's Christopher Nolan and he's taking it
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  Speaker 1: very seriously. It's almost a lot of like almost professional
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  Speaker 1: wrestling style casting in my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: So he's very It's it's a great I'll reference this,
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: say reference when that begins on I Think The Dark
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  Speaker 2: Knight Rises. There's a documentary about making the entire trilogy
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  Speaker 2: where they have interviews with other directors and like critics
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: and stuff, and one of their critics points out that
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  Speaker 2: Nolan weirdly is very similar to other directors where he
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  Speaker 2: will like like Tom Berenger is an inception, Anthony Michael
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: Hall is in this movie, Matthew Modine is in the
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  Speaker 2: next movie. Like he does this weirdly. I loved him.
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  Speaker 2: It's so great that he was an inception. I was like, man,
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  Speaker 2: but like he does this weird Like he does these
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  Speaker 2: weird casting things to that other directors do. And Eric,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I like, yeah, you think it's corny,
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  Speaker 2: but like I'm like it works.
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  Speaker 1: And Eric Roberts actually is Julia Roberts brother.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we should say also Eckhart playing Harvey Dent his RV.
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  Speaker 1: That's true. We didn't mention that what was his I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna look it up. But what was his IMDb up
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  Speaker 1: until this point.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: So he had looking at it now, probably some big
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: things he's known for that. It's like any given Sunday,
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Brockovich, the Core, I forgot the Core. He's a
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: big part of I'd say another one was thank you
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  Speaker 2: for Smoking was probably his very big like critical attention.
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  Speaker 1: One, Yes, that was good. He was good in that.
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  Speaker 2: Black Dahalia. Never loved that. No reservations right it to me?
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  Speaker 2: Two yeah, and then this, so like he was a pick.
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  Speaker 2: This also was a bit of a casting thing too.
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  Speaker 2: There was rumors a long time for Matt Damon of
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Guy Pierce about other people playing this role. I think
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  Speaker 2: kind of one of the undersung part of this movies.
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Eckart, Yeah, yeah, he was in. He was in
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  Speaker 1: Any given Sunday. Aaron Brockovich, The Pledge, the Core, Paycheck,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for Smoking, conversations with other women, the Wickerman,
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  Speaker 1: Black Dahlia, No Reservations, towelhead, the Dark Knight. So this
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  Speaker 1: is peak Ekhart. Like I have nothing against that cart,
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  Speaker 1: but this is peak etk Cart. He he kind of
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  Speaker 1: did nothing after this, and.
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  Speaker 3: Some some of his movie choices were just so I
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  Speaker 3: remember in twenty fourteen, which is not that long after this,
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  Speaker 3: he was in I Frankenstein, which is a science fiction
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  Speaker 3: action movie where he plays Frankenstein.
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  Speaker 1: And when I saw the trailer, I just thought, oh,
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  Speaker 1: so he's cooked, Like he's doing this now his career
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  Speaker 1: is over. And it reminded me there's a great scene
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  Speaker 1: in The Simpsons where and I'm not trying to insult
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Eckhart, like he's great, but Troy McClure drops out
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  Speaker 1: of the McBain franchise, which is like the biggest franchise
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: in the world because there's like some scandal but the
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: media says, because the media lies right, like fake news.
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  Speaker 1: In a bold move that has stunned Hollywood insiders, newly
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  Speaker 1: divorced comeback kid Troy McClure has turned down the supporting
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  Speaker 1: lead at McBain four to direct and star in his
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  Speaker 1: own pet project, The Contrabulus fat Traction of Professor Horatio Huffnagel.
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  Speaker 1: Will his gambit payoff? And like, when I saw the
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  Speaker 1: trailer for I Frankenstein, I thought, like, this is the
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  Speaker 1: contrabulist fap raption of Professor Horatio Huffnagel. So yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: gambit I will not pay off. But yeah, he's good
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  Speaker 1: in this and I have no problem with him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah he's I mean he's kind of on people, like
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  Speaker 2: every time you've seen anything, he's very good. Yeah. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what happened after this. I really don't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you do you want to describe what happens
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: during this trial?
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Sure? So he's quite He pretty much says that, hey,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: we have a you know, walk in step, you know,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: what's someone to testify against you and and you're going
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: to be in jail and this is going to be
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: over to Maroney, who is Eric Roberts almost hit Falcony.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: So the guy who was supposed to essentially rat on
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: him is says, Nope, it was me. I'm the whole
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: brains of the organization. I love how the entire courtroom
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: laughs like they all just know this is horseshit. And
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: he Harvey den says permission to treat the witnesses hostile
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: because he's lying about his deposition. And my favorite line
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: of this movie is, I say your hosta. The guy
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: pulls out a gun and attempts to shoot Harvey. Harvey
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: disarms the gun and uh disables it. In front of
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Maroney and is like, oh, whatever parts made in China, sir,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: if you want to kill a public servant, I recommend
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: you buy American. The audience colaps.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: But doesn't he also punch the guy in the face,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: like not, He snatches the gun, knocks him out, dismantles it,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: and then has that line, you got to buy American.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Just amazing. He would be re elected DA for for
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: life based on that one moment.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: And then he says, your honor, I'm not done. They
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: and they and the case and then leaving. Rachel's like,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: you're definitely doing something right because they're attempting to kill you,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: so in court, in court publicly murder you.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I really, I really love that. Harvey says to Jim Gordon,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I want to meet Batman, and Jim says, our official
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: position is to arrest the vigilante known as Batman on site.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. That makes me laugh
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: so much. I love that. It's so great. He's just
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: such it's so business.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: It's like, go ahead, well, and Gordon says, so. Gordon says,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I want you to to back my warrants, and Dan says,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I'll back your warrants. But I want you to trust me,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: and Jim says, I trust you your Gotham's white Night.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: And that's the whole point of this history in this
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: movie is Batman is the dark Knight. He's in the shadows,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: he's operating behind the scenes. But Gotham needs something more
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: than that. Gotham needs a white knight who can be
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: front and center in the daytime, saving the city and
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: inspiring hope and making people care and you know, so
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: on and so forth.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I also really like the line by Jim when Jim
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: because we're friends, by Gordon when Harvey Dent's like, oh,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: like your people that I investigated in I a inn
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: internal affairs. So he's like, I like essentially made a
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: comment about how like you're people are dirty. The people
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: you're working with the dirty, and I love Gordon says,
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: I don't get political points for being idealist. I have
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: to do the best with what I have. And it's like,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: that's a lot of people in those type of roles
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: in the world.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, And also he says, what was your nick what
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: was your guy's nickname for me internal affairs? And Jim's like, oh,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't remember, but it will come up later.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: I definitely will that may meet the villain of this movie.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I call him Andy Kelly. He's the Andy Kelly.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Of this movie.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: She is Reese?
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Is that his name Mason Reese?
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I think is the name Mason Reese? Explain this scene
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: and who Mason Reese is.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: So he is running the numbers. He is like a
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: auditor of the Wayne Corporation that they've hired or has
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: been hired for them, and he essentially is a bit
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: of like a know it all kind of guy. And
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: he's like, something doesn't make sense in these books.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: And uh, well, first he's in the meeting and he's
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: because Bruce is asleep.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Oh that's right, yes, hello, Yeah.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: So Reese goes to Lucius Fox has played by Morgan Freeman,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: and it's like, this is embarrassing that I don't care
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: how rich he is, and he runs the company's asleep
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: in the meeting with our investors. That's embarrassing. And then
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: he says, go on.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: He says he found something odd in the numbers, and
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: he's like, I need to check something about whatever you
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: guys are working on. And then Lucius Fox says, please
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: run them again. I'm trying to find this guy's real name.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: He's very unlikable.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: He's a colman, reeset his name. It's one of the
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: best lines later in the movie. But yes, so you
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: know later he'll be a problem.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: There'll be a problem later. He's deep driving the books
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: of the Wayne Corporation and Lucius's department. Bruce meets with
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Lucius and says, I need a new suit, and Lucius says, oh,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: you want to be able to turn your head, which
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: is acknowledging what the audio has hated about the last
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: four Batman films.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: This is actually right. I walked out probably the first
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: time I ever seen the rest of this movie. Yeah.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: A famous quote during the production that was referenced as
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Christian Bale describing the suit. He said, quote, it's hot,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: it's dark, it's sweaty, and it gives me a headache.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: So it's funny how many superhero people like heating. Everybody
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: has said, like say that, like the suits are awful,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: like and how many superhero sequels the person is in
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: the suit less because they get sick of it.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't blame them. I mean,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: it seems it's all they care about, is it does
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: look good for the camera. Is no part of it
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: is designed for the actor's comfort in any way. Like famously,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: everybody and their mother will share this fact about like
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: the fun movie fact Jim Carrey had to like train
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: with the Navy Seals about how to survive torture techniques
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: for putting on the Grinch costles.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: I always think of Tim Curry and Legend. So Legend
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: was like made in the eighties and he plays pretty
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: much a devil man and he said, like eye contact
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: technology was not there yet, so when they made them,
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: they were too big, and he describes they were too big,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: so what they did was just shove them in harder.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Well, it depends on how much you're getting paid. Like
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Jim Carrey is literally getting paid millions and millions of
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: dollars to be in there.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: I think it's the most money he's ever made in
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: his entire life in that movie.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: So, you know, crimea River. But Bruce wants to feel
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: out Harvey Dent, so he asked to go on a
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: double date with Rachel and Harvey and he is with
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Natasha the ballerina who is smoking hot.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: In the Ballerina.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, prima ballerina in the Russian ballet, and she says,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: how would I who would raise a child in Gotham City?
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: And Bruce says, I was raising Gotham City and I
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: turned out fine. Harvey a great line, Oh Wayne manor
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: is inside the city limits?
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Well it got so great. I love that.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: And Harvey says in times of crisis, the Romans would
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: suspend democracy and name one man to protect the city.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Rachel points out, yes, and that man never gave the
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: power back. His name was Julius Caesar. Harvey says, you
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: either die a hero or live long enough to see
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: yourself become the villain. Bruce is enamored by these interactions,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: loves Harvey and says Harvey, I'm gonna hold you a fundraiser.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Harvey points out I'm not up for reelection, and Bruce says,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: trust me, if I do one fundraiser, you will never
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: need another cent for your campaign as long as you live.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Oops, I stapled this wrong. Where is Paige?
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Okay? Here we go?
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Interesting?
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Now there is this is the next scene is the
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: get together in the kitchen? Correct?
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Wonderful? Yes? The group therapy?
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's a there's a criminal from Hong Kong
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: named Lao. He's like a businessman, accountant, and he it
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: calls together all of the leaders of the different criminal
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: families of Gotham City and the back kitchen of a restaurant,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: which for some reason just really works, looks.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: So good at detector. I think is so funny. It's crazy, and.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: It's just a very it's a it's a place people
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: don't go. It's just if you're a normal person, you
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: never go into the kitchen of a restaurant. So it's
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: like this hidden special place. And it is the Italian Mob,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: the Chechen Mob, and essentially the black Mob of Gotham City.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: And Lao says, the cops are tracking your money. I
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: removed your money from the city. I took all of
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: it from all of the banks in Gotham City and
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I have it now in Hong Kong because it needed
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: to get out of the cops jurisdiction and I needed
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: to protect your money. But they're all very concerned that
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: this gentleman took all their money without them knowing.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: And it was also we should say, triggered by the
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: robbery that occurs.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Triggered by the joker's robbery. And he's like because he's
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: sort of he was like cleaning the money, in charge
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: of the money, and he said it got too dangerous.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I removed it all I have it. And we're also
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: worried about the joker. Eric Roberts says, the jokers some
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: two bit whack job in a cheap purple suit. And
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: then we hear I love the way he laughs in
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: this scene because it's not a genuine, genuine laugh. From
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: the distance you hear the Jokers start to walk into
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: the room, and the way he laugh he's laughing is
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: he goes ah ha ah ah ah oh he ah
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: he ha ha and he walks in and they're like,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on? And the joker says,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: and I thought my jokes were bad, referring to lou
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: like low just basically took all of your money. And
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: this is everything about this is stupid and I can't
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: believe you're falling for this. Why don't you explain another
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: just random comic book like choice professional wrestling casting choice?
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Michael J. White who no offense love Michael J. White?
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Is it Ji White or J White?
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Was Jy White?
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Okay? Michael JI White really like him, but he's just
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: this jacked shredded legitimate martial artist.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Who I also love linking up to the Spawn universe.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I love this, This is so great.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Who played Spawn? We covered Spawn before we covered the
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Dark Knight. I love how Spawn Spawn happened because Ryan
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: made a joke we should do Spawn, and I thought
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: he was serious, and I said, huge, huge hit, Ryan,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: why don't you Why don't you explain huge ratings hit?
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Why don't you explain the disappearing pencil?
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: So? Uh, the Joker just burst in and Gamble, whom
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Michael Jay White plays, just says, how about I have
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: my boy bust your head in? And one of his
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: goons gets up and he's like, I'm gonna make this
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: pencil disappear and stabs the pencil into the table. The
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: guy approaches Joker. Joker just grabs the guy's arm and
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: head and puts his head into the pencil through the table.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: The pencil is gone. The guy falls over and he says, dau.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: What a gross, awful way to die.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: Disgusting, But also, I'm not kidding you. When I saw
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: this in theaters, the delay in the audience reaction when
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: you picked up what happened? Our entire audience clapped. I
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: was like, they fucking got us. They just got us.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: He says, my suit wasn't cheap. You should know you
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: bought it.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: So so Michael J Jy White Gamble you said, is
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: like hates all of this. But the other mobsters are like,
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: all right, let's hear the joker out because clearly this
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: is not going well for us.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: So here here proposition Richie Costa and this.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's great. Let's wind the clocks back a year.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: These cops and lawyers wouldn't dare across any of you.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, what happened? Did your balls drop off? And
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: like I wrote a note here, he just looks like shit.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: The way he licks his lips, he is like.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: The makeup is melting while he's talking.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the way he lives. I read that it was
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: a tick because he has scars which we'll talk about
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: on his face, and it was the makeup of the scars.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: It just like made him feel weird and if he
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: felt like they were falling off, so he would lick
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: his lips and it was kind of a tick that
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: naturally happened because of the makeup. And Christopher Nolan was like, Oh,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I love that. It's really creepy. Keep doing that.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Oh something we should say too, because we were talking
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: about like the dial I know how funny it is?
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Is that? Is that those the pooches? Is those Richie
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Costers pooches?
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Here, yeah, how would I feed you to pooches?
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: They're actually gonna eat me? That's their plan. But is
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I bought the book that is like a making of
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: book of this movie and also has the full script.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: How much of the Joker's lines are actually written? Are
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: so interesting? Because like I don't think no one is
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: like a humor guy, like a funny like joke making guy.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: But ye, how much of it is we are now
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: biting with a computer. How much of it is? Oh? Hi,
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: I know sorry is written? Is so interesting to me?
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Like how like again, like all these lines like the
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: next one coming up, are all written? Not just like
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: he fled your improv improv improvising them that.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I didn't even know that. Uh yeah, he says, I
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: know why you're afraid to go out at night the Batman.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: The Batman has showing Gotham your true colors. Unfortunately, and
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: as for the television so called plan, because you know,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: he took all the money to Hong Kong. Batman has
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: no jurisdiction. Batman will find him and make him squeal.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I know the squealers when I see them. And then
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Richie Coster says, so what do you propose? It's simple,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: we kill the Batman and then everybody laughs and somebody says,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: you're crazy. And I love the way he says this.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: He goes, I'm not, I'm not.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: And he says it to himself. It's not even like
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: he says it out loud. Oh I love that. And
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: best line this entire movie is as for the television
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: so called plan fucking hilarious. I think it's the way
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: he points at it so dismissively. It's hilarious.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because because Loo is like calling in over
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: zoom basically and uh, Michael, Michael Jack White is just
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: done with this and he goes to basically like kill
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: the Joker, and the Joker pulls out open his suit
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: jacket and it's blind with grenades.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Love, I so so funny. Let's not blow this out
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: of proportion.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: And they're all cartoonishly. All the pins and the grenades
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: are cartoonishly tied to a single string that wraps around
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: the joke his thumb.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: So such a brilliant plan. Also, do you think when
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: he says enough from the clown that was like a
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: spawn shout out? Or am I just overthinking this?
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Oh my, it has to be Ryan.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: There's no way metic Christopher Nolan's a massive fan of
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: the movie, not the comics.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Spawn that's there has to be enough from the clown.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: And Michael Michael Joy White says half a million to
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: kill the Joker, a million alive. I'm putting a bounty
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: out on his head, says this to everyone. The Joker says,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: all right, everybody, I just want you to think about it.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Here's my card. You hands them of the Joker from
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: a deck of cards, which is great.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: What is the line that Eric Roberts says to him
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: before he leaves where it's like when you say, let's
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: bow this hot of proportion and then guy's like your plan,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: which you're going to blackmail everybody in here? Yeah? Like
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: it was just the simplest answer, and we've worked it.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Sure it sure is his plan, and then he leaves.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: So Harvey calls Batman with the that signal, and Harvey
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: tells Jim basically your rookie cop that you love the
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: female Rodriguez, she's crooked, and Jim's like, no, but Jim,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: but what does Harvey tell Batman in the scene, basically like.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: I need I need Lao to get them because, as
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: you said, they took all the money out of the bank.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: So the scene with the gangsters in the kitchen is
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: intercut with the banks and the police arriving with all
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: the money being gone because they were going to get
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: them on some kind of bust bust. So he's like,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: I need Lao because he's the only one who can,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: like cop to all this. So Bruce is like, can
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: you get him to talk? And he's get him to sing?
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: And Gordon also real like this is the first time
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: they kind of also really instill even though the Core
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: case should have done this. Gordon's like, they knew we
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: were coming, they knew they have some kind of inside
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: knowledge here.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yeah, And Batman disappears and Harvey says, like
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: where did he go? And Jim makes a joke he
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: does that. So Batman goes to our Batman, Bruce goes
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: to Lucius, and Lucia says, so you want to jump
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: out of a plane that's an unusually normal request for you.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: And Bruce says, well, I want to get back in
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: the plane without the plane landing, and Lucia says, that's
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: more like in mister Winn.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Also, we should say, like this is like the Morgan
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Freeman show. At this movie. He's so good in this.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: He's not in a lot, but every time he's in anything,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: he owns it. Yeah, he owns the scene. And uh,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: there's a so Harvey and Rachel are going to the
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: ballet to see Bruce's date, and it says that the
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: ballet is canceled. And there's a newspaper article billionaire of
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: scones with entire Russian ballet.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: I left what the article is called love boat.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: I think it's great, yeh, to make like make a diversion,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: essentially to make an alibi for Bruce Wayne. He goes
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: into the middle of the ocean and he's chilling on
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: this yacht with the Russian ballet, and then this like
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: sketchy cargo plane picks him up. If I was Natasha,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, what is happening?
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Oh god? Yeah.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Also, Alfred makes a comment like tell your girlfriend to
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: put on her own sunscreen. I'm like Alfred, shut the
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: fuck up. I would put on her sunscreen all day.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Uh so, yeah, all right, Michael j So, now Michael
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Jay White is in his hangout playing some billiards and
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: a group of young teenagers come in and they say,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: we want the bounty for the Joker five hundred thousand.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: We killed them, and they have a body bag. So
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: he's not not a very smart man, I would say,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Michael Gamble, Michael Jay White in this film.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: The best of them, as they showed earlier. Yep.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So he opens the body bag and it's the
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Joker dead inside. So he says, all right, you know,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: I'll give you half a million dollars, and the Joker
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: pops up. Shocker, he's not dead. They didn't kill him
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: off this early in the movie, and he the teenagers
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: are working for the Joker. They all pull out guns,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: and the Joker says, and I realized there's nothing cringier
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: than like hearing an insult impersonate the Joker in a
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: YouTube video. I know I'm doing that, but just bear
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: with me. I want to know how I got these scars.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: My father was a drinker and a fiend, and one
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: night he goes off crazier than usual. Mommy gets a
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: kitchen knife to defend herself and he doesn't like that,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: not one bit. So me watching he takes the knife
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: tour laughing while he does it. He turns to me
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: and he says, and this is the famous line. He
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: basically screams it. Why so serious? He puts the blade
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: in my mouth and says, let's put a smile on
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: that face. And it's important because you think, oh, that's
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: how we got the scars the film, you know, like
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: he has these smile scars. That must be how he
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: got them. But it'll turn out it's much like how
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Henry Portrait of a Sira Killer Michael Ruoker explains killing
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: his mom.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Would he make the team?
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Henry, Yes, Henry would easily make the Jokers team.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: So explain what you mean making the team, Ryan.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: So he takes out Gamble. He kills Gamble and his again.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Joker's gang has the people like restrained Gamble's people, and
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: he's like, we're doing we're doing some aggressive expansion and
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: who wants to join our team? And we're gonna have
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: tryouts And he breaks a pool stick in half and
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: puts them in the middle and just says make it
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: quick and walks away. And I wanted to talk about
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: this at the time this movie came out. It's a
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: PG thirteen. It is a very violent movie. For PG thirteen.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of there's no blood or gore though, no
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: blood or gore, which is like just incredibly well done.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: But it is a lot of guns, a lot of stabbings,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff. And watching it again, I'm like,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: it's amazing, how like they just use the music to
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: like jab the stuff or to like make it sound
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: more impactful than it is. Like when he kills Gamble,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: you never actually see him do it. Yeah, it just
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: shows his arm move and they cut away and there's I.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Don't think there's a drop of blood in this movie.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: I can't think of its including later where there probably
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: should be a lot more of it, and there's none.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, And they did that because they knew that the
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: NPA is so stupid and they're honestly, they're so stupid. Well,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: like it takes place at night a lot, that's honestly
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: that they would factor that in because they're that fucking stupid,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: you know, it's it's oh, it's disturbing. The vibes are
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: disturbing vibes, you know, so that's smart to not to
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: not do that, and now we have this would cause
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: a massive international incident. But when Batman it takes a
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: little trip trip to Hong Kong on a cargo plane
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: like through the city, I don't know, doesn't totally make sense,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: but it's very very cool. Ryan, why don't you explain
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Lucius and the meeting with Lao and what Batman does here?
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Sure, so Lucius, we should say before was Bruce was
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: meeting with Lao in that meeting with Coleman Reese and well,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry say they're talking about doing a deal with
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Lao's company and Lao, of course is tied to the Mob.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: So Lao went to Hong Kong because they will not
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: extradite one of their own and is in his like tower,
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: and is Lucius goes to meet him, meet him as
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: like an envoy to pretty much tell him like, we're
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: not doing business with you because what ever you're attached to,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: and he's just like, mister Wayne did not want to
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: think we were deliberately wasting your time. He's like, yeah,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: only accidentally, which I think is really funny. So when
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: he enters, you're not allowed to have your cell phone
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: in the tower. So Lucius leaves his phone with the
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: security guard, and then he gets a call while he's
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: talking to Law and he's like, oh, I forgot I
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: had my cell phone. I said to this. Anyone else
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: does that, like I was Ember saying this to myself
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: watching this. Anyone else in the world does that. While
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: it is like super suspicious, Oh I need this phone now,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: like it's everything's insane because it's Morgan Freeman. He says,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: it's so nonchalant, you just don't care. It's so great.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: So then he leaves. He goes to meet Bruce outside
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: the building and he's like, I planted the phone. We
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: have the phone, we have this schematic.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I really Bruce is not even wearing a hat. He's
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: just on the streets of Hong Kong with binoculars and
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: like sunglasses. And I thought, really bad disguise since he's
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: an international billionaire play a boy.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: He's wearing like half of the Batman costume without the mask,
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Like he's wearing like the suit. Oh shit, But I
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: like this. So that they plant essentially plant a tracker
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: in the building. So they can kind of see what's
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: happening in there at night. So Bruce is on a
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: building later that night across the way in the batsuit
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: and he sets up like these things out of his
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: like that gun for him to essentially fly into the building.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: In an incredible shot, he shuts.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: This like gel He shoots his gel gun, which is
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: so cool and yeah, and Christopher Nolan loves to do
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: real practical effects, so he tries not to fake a
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: lot of stuff, which we'll talk about in Dark Knight Rises.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Even more of the opening scene there is crazy. But yeah,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: so this is a beautiful shot.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: It looks amazing. I love when he just first like
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: lows guards gets it's just that something is happening. When
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: the things hit the wall, I believe, so they start
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: to like, hey, we need to get Lao out of here.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: And then I just love the way they cut this.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: They just cut to the glass just smashing, and when
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Batman lands and just rolls up and immediately is just
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: like strangling a guy into the wall. They must be like,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: what the fuck is what the fuck is this thing?
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: And this just whole fight scene is incredible. He's able
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: to stop most of the team. He takes out Lao.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: I love that he drags Lao by his foot across
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: the building. I think that's so funny, and then essentially
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: ties Lau to himself. He then shoots up this thing
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: that the Skyhook project they talk about earlier with Lucius
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: that it's essentially a giant magnet to magnetize Bruce and
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: Lao to this flying overplane so they can essentially just
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: escape with Lao and get away. And then they hardcut
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: to Lao just in front of the police station with
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: a note on him.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Awesome, just awesome, and he's being interrogated by Harvey Dent
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: and essentially Harvey is building a Rico case. Lao says,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: I want immunity and a chartered playing back to Hong
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Kong was part of the deal for in. Harvey's so
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: happy because Rico, anybody that's part of the Rico conspiracy,
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: they can go to jail for a very long time.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: So we just Harvey just essentially took down the entire
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: mob as long as he has low and the mayor
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: is explaining to Harvey, everyone is now going to go
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: after you. Everyone. Are you up for this? And Harvey's like, yeah,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm who.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Cares another warning. Also shout out to Nester Carbonell, who
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: plays the Mayor of Gotham from Lost other TV shows.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Did me play Batmanuel on the tick?
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I believe you did. Yes, Yes, great catch there, we
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: got spawn, we got the tick. The best movie ever know.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: That we have Batman. Well not just the tick.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Patrick Warburton shows up, but such a great moment again
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: and like you said, another warning for Harvey. And then
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: a just great jump scare in this movie, A want
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: a body of a batman swings down and hits the
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Mayor's window and they then cut to news footage of
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: the body being taken down. Bruce is watching it when
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: he's getting ready for the fundraiser for Harvey.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: This is hockey pads, I wrote, Hockey pads is dead.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Hockey pads is dead. And it has a good card
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: which just says, well, the real Batman please stand up.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Great visual. That jump scare got our entire crowd when
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: I saw this. It's just such a good just such
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: a good bust. And then the news when they're playing
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: the footage of the news, they said there was a
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: tape attached to him, and they play the tape and
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: what's on the tape to him, it is.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: The Joker record do you using a handheld camera torturing
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: hockey bats the fake Batman and he is torturing him,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: and he has the famous line he says, look at me,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: and the Batman fake Batman is not is not really
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: looking at him, and he says.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: Look at me.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: And it's just the way he does it is kind
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: of like whoa, that's actually really scary and nothing normal.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: It is very scary, yell. It's so it's such a
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: different tone of voice. And I also again it's so
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: we're going to keep vomiting praise on this. But like,
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: I think it's so funny when he asks him, are
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: you the real Batman? And he laughs while he's saying
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: it because obviously he knows he's not the real Batman.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: I think it's just so funny. The guy should be like, yeah,
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: I am, because like Brian, yeah, the.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Joe, Yeah, his name is Brian. So Joker says, this
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: is how crazy Batman is made. God Batman needs to
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: take off this mass, turn himself in or people will
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: start will die starting tonight. And then he says, trust me,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: I'm a man of my word.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: And then this was the teaser thing that was the
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: teaser dialogue.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Ye, yes, Bruce is having a galla for Harvey Den
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: at the top of the building. And I would honestly
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: think Bruce is clearly over compensating for something. I wouldn't
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: think he's Batman. I would think he was gay. He
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: shows up with three bimbos on his arm, and I'm like,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: why are you trying so hard to be the man?
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I would just think he was covering up being gay.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: And I think that whole thing of like it's meant
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: obviously meant to play is like a joke. Is the
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: whole thing about like we were talking about with them
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: and begins where like that person's theory that I was
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: sharing who I actually was trying to find that podcast
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: or whatever I listened to said that, where like it's
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: this weird like third person thing where like Bruce is
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: this extreme idiot party person and then Batman is this
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: you know whatever, and then the real person is someone.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, absolutely a great moment showing like the fake
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Bruce versus the real Bruce is fake Bruce immediately grabs
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: a flute of champagne and then walks outside and dumps
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: it out, not not even looking, just dumps it out.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Such a subtle moment. I also love when at the fundraiser,
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Harvey is like introduced to Alfred and he's like, any
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: psychotic expert friends I should know about? Oh, you have
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: no idea? Yes?
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And this is where the movie starts to fall
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: apart a little bit. Bruce says, He's like, hey, Rachel,
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: awesome news. Great news. So Harvey is now the hero
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: of Gotham. Everybody loves him. I'm gonna use my money
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: to get him elected. Then when we have Harvey, all
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: the city will change. Everybody's gonna have hope. This means
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: I can quit being Batman, which I want to do
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: so desperately, so I can date you. That's the plan.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Harvey elected so I can quit being
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Batman only just to date you. That's my plan. I'm like, ooh,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: this just is awfull.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah this again, like we talked about it with Batman Begins,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: and definitely kind of talk about it more with Rises.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: But like, this part is so undercooked to me, and
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: I guess they don't make a big deal out of
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: it in the movie, but it's such a huge emotional
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: engine for him. Yeah, and it's just like I never
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: like because again even with I think Jill and Hall
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: does a better job with this, but again they just
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: don't have much chemistry. So I just don't really get
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: his infatuation to need this. I did want to ask
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: the most important question about this scene, probably the entire movie.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Why would anyone go to a Bruce Wayne Throne party?
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: After Batman begins, when a terrorist showed up, destroyed the home,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Bruce insulted you and kicked you out, why would anyone
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: go to this?
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the lecture about why you suck and you should
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: leave is the worst part. So sorry. Back at like
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: the investigations into the Joker there, somebody tells Jim that
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Joker car that was left on hockey Pad's body, we
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: found three DNA matches, and Jim says, oh, who are
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: the DNA matches? They said, Harvey Dent, Judge Sorillo, and
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Commissioner Lobe. Uh oh, that's not good. How do you
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: get their DNA? Going back to the gala, Harvey is miserable.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: He hates the trust fund crowd. I thought this was genius,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: So Judge Si, So Jim is like, okay, So Judge Sorello, Harvey, Dent,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: and Commissioner Lobe or in danger. That's why the joker
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: sent the message to us, that he's been so close,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: in such close contact with them, he has their DNA.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: So Judge Sirillo is escorted out of her home by
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: police and is told, we don't even know where you're going.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: You're essentially going in witness protection away from the joker.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: We have a sealed envelope that says where you are going.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: We don't even know what's on it, but you need
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: to read. Get in your car and read this envelope
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: and then just go there. So Judge Sorillo says, fine,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: She gets in her car, sits in the driver's seat,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: opens the envelope, and the piece of paper just says
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: up and she's really confused, and then the car explodes.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: So that was the joke, is like you're going up
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: because you're gonna get blown up.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: So this whole scene is intercut with hers with the party,
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: and with what happens to Commissioner Lobe with him drinking
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: the whiskey. Commissioner Lobe has a very insulting line to
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: Gordon where he's like, you're unlikely to experience this for yourself.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: But this is how I learned to deal with these
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: kind of threats. And he pulls out the glass of
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: whiskey and then Gordon on Walsas's ass the raining Joker
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: cards when the car explodes. One of the best images
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: in this movie. So good, and we.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: To be method Ryan the whiskey I pored for myself
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: in part one.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Poison really so hasn't worked yet.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Well, it's it's very slow acting. It'll take months. But
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: it's like, uh, why myself, it's incurable.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: I just explain it as to a doctor. Yeah.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: So I was doing a podcast that so low drinks
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: poison dies. This made me laugh out loud. I didn't
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: remember this moment. So Dent is sensing that Rachel's like
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: being aloof they're dating. Dent says, Rachel's there's someone else.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: Don't tell me it's this Wayne guy. He is such
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: a and then Bruce pops out of nowhere and chokes
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: him out, and then Rachel's like whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Mind.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Bruce is like, they're coming to kill Harvey, and
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: he essentially locks him in a broom closet, which I
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: have a problem with later. So later, at like the
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: end of the scene, they go is Harvey safe And
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Batman confidently is like, Harvey safe, And I'm like, you
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: locked him in a broom closet.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: He's not sick.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so okay. So he locks Harvey in a broom
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: closet and there's a little bit of a party crasher.
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: It's Vince Vaughan and Luke Wilson. They're looking to hook up.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it, everybody, Let's start the shop montage.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Let's do it.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: I would love if that happened. And then the Joker
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: show up after them and just blew their brains out.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: He's scared of them though, like he runs away in fear.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Like then You're like, who the fuck are these guys.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: So Joker shows up at the gala with with thugs
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: with gun.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: He made it.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Bruce is walking down the hallway and there's a thug
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: with a gun, and I love how Bruce like effortlessly
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: the guys is like slow down, pretty boy or something
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: like that. It just takes the gun, knocks the guy out.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: He doesn't even slow down his walking pace, takes the gun,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: knocks the guy out, and just mantles a gun into
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: pieces and drops them on the floor.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: When that guy wakes up, he has to like he's
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Batman's him. It's him, it has to be him. Yeah.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: And then another great moment, Bruce walks into a bedroom
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: and there's a couple having sex and I'm like, okay,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: wait a minute. You were at a gall at Bruce
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Wayne's penthouse apartment for Harvey Dent and you to raise
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: money to like save the city, and you guys snuck
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: away to have sex in this environment. It's not like
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: a fun time, you know what I mean.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Bruce's parties are crazy.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: That's true. And the great line, but I think the
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: girl says, oh, thank god he has a panic room,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: because Bruce starts to go into a panic room and
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: then he shuts the door in their faces. Oh oh oh,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: that's a great that's a great line. And uh there
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: some some old old bag of bones who thinks he's
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: tough like calls out the joker, and joker says, you
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: remind me of my father. I hated my father. And
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: then Rachel's like, I don't want to see where this
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: is going.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: His face when that guy speaks to him, He's like,
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: we're not intimidated by thugs. He looks so confused at first.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: I think it's so funny. Ugh. Ugh this also, I
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: should say the gangster scene too, in the beginning and
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: the kitchen begins the is this Batman n nineteen eighty
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Night again? So like this is like when Batman goes
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: into the art gallery and finds Vicky. I'm sorry, when
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: Joker goes in the art gallery, destroys everything, finds Vicky
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: Vail and tries to abscond with her, and similar thing
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: here with this scene.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: That's a very good point. I did not pick up
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: on that, but that is a very good point. So
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: this is continuing the Michael Ruoker Henry Porto of Serial Killer,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: How did you kill your mom? Inconsistencies? Joker sister Rachel,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: I want to know how I got these scars. I
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: had a wife, beautiful just like you, who tells me
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: I worry too much, tells me I had a smile
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: more who gambles and gets in deep with the sharks.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: One day, they carve her face and we don't have
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: money for surgery. She can't take it, and I just
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: want to see her smile again. I just wanted to know.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: I don't care about the scars. So I stick a
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: razor in my mouth and I do this to myself,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: and you now what, Now she can't stand the side
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: of me. She leaves. But now I see the funny
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: side of it. Now I'm always smiling. So you're you're
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: just like okay. So we have no idea who this
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: man is, how he got these scars, and we're never
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: gonna find out, which is one of the genius things.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, Batman. At ten eighty nine, they make the
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: joker Jack Nay Pierre, who killed Bruce's parents. But in
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: this movie, much in like the comics, he's we don't
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: know and we'll never know. And that's the point. It
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter who this guy is like or what his
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: identity is. And Razel's response is, just kicks him in
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: the balls. Great response, guy, I'm not gonna listen to
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: his stupid bullshit. Just kicks him in the balls. Yeah,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: and she says, oh, a little fighting you. I like that.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: Then you're gonna love me.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: I think I must be laughing this whole time. To
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: be honest with you, you need to redub this whole
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: movie with your once you are Batman and you do that.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, I think I think I should. I think I should.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: So Batman shows up kicks the shit out of him.
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: Joker then grabs shoots out a window and grabs Rachel
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: and is about to throw out of the window, and
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Batman says let her go, and Jokers like looks really
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: amused and says that's a very point poor choice of words.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Love the let go laugh. It's just so good, Like
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: he's like, Okay, I always like rewatching this movie, like
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: so many times, like when he is holding her hostage.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: If you look at him when he has like he's like,
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: you just take off your little mask and I'll and
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: tell us all you really are if you he looks
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: so different. I don't know how to describe it. Like
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: his face looks so different in that scene. I think
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: maybe just because the angle of how he's leaning his
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: head up and I'm just being like, he just looks
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: not human. It just looks so strange. It's just so disconcerning.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: It's hard for me to say it. I'll have to
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: like sex screen, you just looks so concerning in that part.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I I wrote a note what if this
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: got rated R? Only because of this scene when Joker
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: throws Rachel off the building and she's falling. She's just
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: going fuck, fuck, fuck fuck fuck fuck.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: You have changed that.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Wyman jumps out the wind as she starts falling, but
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: looks like it's gonna hail. Rachel's is Harvey? Okay, it's she.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: She saves her. It's Harvey.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's totally safe. I locked him in a room closet,
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: so Gordon. One of Gordon's like right hand hand men
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: in this movie is the villain from the TV series
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Angel who kidnaps Angel's son, who's played by Yeah, yeah, exactly,
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: who's it. What's this actor's name? I love this guy.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: He's one of the Is he Worts?
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: Maybe?
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Maybe? Yeah?
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: He's like an older dude.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's Worts. Yea, Worts.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: I gotta look him up dark night just to give him.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: Or is it the other guy?
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: No, not Words, No, it's it's not Words. The guy
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: who's he's old but he's not. He's because Worts isn't
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Gordon's right hand man. Gordon.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, the guy who we see later in the interrogation room.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, okay, I I don't know he's gonna
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: positve to look him up real quick. This isn't good
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: because I'm gonna butcher it. His name is Keith Zarah
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Bodgka okay, but anyways, he's he's plays Gordon's right hand man.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: He was the villain. It was like the big heavy
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: from multiple seasons of Angel. And they're talking about what
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: to do here, and they're like, well, where's Dent And
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: somebody says, if I was Dent, if he if he
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: had any sense, he'd be halfway to Mexico by now,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: and then Dent walks into the room as he's saying.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: This, throws the bulletproof aster you're doing.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: Court, yeah, exactly to allow because they're all so scared
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: and he doesn't care. So Bruce, who's Bruce, Yeah, Bruce
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: is talking to Oh, oh my god. This is this
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: is part of maybe the best part of the movie.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: I don't can you do a Michael Kine?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: I can try, sure, okay, Okay, hold.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: On, I'm gonna I'm gonna send you the script for
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: this because I have it in my notes. Sure, okay.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: So in this scene, Bruce Wayne will be played by
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Timothy Cuff and it's Bruce Wayne. So he's not gonna
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: talk like this. And Alfred Michael Kane will be played
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: by Ryan McDonald. Make sure I hit record, Yeah I did, Okay.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: I knew the mob wouldn't go down without a fight, Alfred,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: but this is this is different. They crossed the line.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: You crossed the line first, you squeeze them, You hammered
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: them to the point of desperation, and in their desperation
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: they turned to the men They didn't fully understand.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: Criminals aren't complicated, Alfred. We just need to figure out
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: what he's after.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: With all due respect, Master Wayne, perhaps this is a
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: man you don't fully understand either. A long time ago,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: my friends and I went to Burma working for the
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: local god. This is more Russell Crowe working for the
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: local government. They were trying to buy the loyalty of
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: tribe leaders by bribing them with precious stones. But their
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: caravans are being raided in the forest of the north
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: of Rangoon. Shoot, okay, this is written badly Rangon Shout
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: out crab Rangoons. Isn't that?
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: I added that he's referencing Rangoon.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: But Michael Caine turns to this camera, shout out to
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: crab Rangoons by a local bandit. We were looking for
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: the stones, but in six months, we couldn't find anyone
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: who had traded with them. One day I saw a
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: child playing with a ruby the size of a tangerine.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: Love that line. The bandit had been throwing them away.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: But then why steal them?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Because I thought it was good sport. Because some men
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: out looking for anything logical like money, they can't be bought, bullied,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: reason to negotiated with. Some men just want to watch
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: the world turn.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: And this is this is such a genius exchange between
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: the two of them, because Bruce doesn't understand. He doesn't Batman.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: He's all criminals are corruptible. And that's the thing about
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: Batman is incorruptible. The Joker is incorruptible. All criminals fear
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: for their own lives or or they want to avoid
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: feeling pain. They love money, they love power, you know,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: they love women or drugs or something. And the Joker
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: is truly incorruptible more than Batman because the Joker has
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: nothing tying himself to this world. He only has his ideals,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: has warped, twisted, fucked up ideals. But he doesn't have
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: a Rachel, a childhood friend, a girlfriend, a friend, anyone
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: like he doesn't have. He only has people that work
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: for him for money, and he knows he can manipulate
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: them with money, but he is more incorruptible from his
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: purpose and his mission that drives them then Bruce's. And
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Bruce has never encountered a criminal that's remotely like that.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: And it's so fascinating now rewatching these where the first
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: movie is Bruce talking about how he needs to become
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: quote unquote more than a man, be an idea, something unkillable,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: and you watch someone become that, and then you see
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: the results of that in the beginning of this movie,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: and then you have something that is that with the Joker.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: But already, like you don't see the backstory, you don't
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: get the build up to this, you don't see how
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: it becomes this, it's just here. And I think that
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: is such a great way to sort of converse them,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: where both want to be something more than what they are,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: or both are something more than what they are, but
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: you know how this one came to be and you
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: have no idea how this one is, but both have
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: to exist.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're You're absolutely right, and this is the
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: like the Joker is, so the if like whatever the
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Joker decided to do with his life if he decided
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: to be the Joker, if he had decided to be Batman,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: he would be a better Batman because Batman right now
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: in this movie cares more about Rachel than he does
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: about being Batman. The Joker only cares about being the Joker,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: and nothing is going to make him afraid or hurt
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: him or motivate him to do anything else. Like if
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: if you took Harley Quinn, who doesn't exist in these movies,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: and you threw her out of a window, and the
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Joker was like, Okay, I can continue to execute my
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: plan or I can go save her, he'd be like,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: all right, yeah, bye, see you later.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's just there's no yeah, there is zero.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: It's uh yeah, useless comments, yeah.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: Useless comment. No, it's all It's all good. And so
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: that that's where we should end. Part two is just
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: with that concept. It's it's such an amazing line. They
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: just want to watch the world burn. And that was
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: in a lot of trailers as.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: Well, huge trailer line yep, yep.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: So with that we're going to bring it. This is
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: definitely gonna be four parts. We're going to bring it
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: to a part three. Thank you for listening.