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AEW Dynamite and All In Backstage Video Preview · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for edition with the
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aw fan Hub podcast team and Alex. We've got this big reveal of the
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All In backstage video tomorrow night on Dynamite. Mm hmm. Yeah. It's
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very controversial. The Young Bucks have said they are going to present backstage footage
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of the CM Punk confrontation. It doesn't stay specifically, but that's what I'm
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going to assume. I was staying Punk and Jack Perry and Yeah, and
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somehow with Joe and Tony Kahn, I think we're the Yeah, I don't
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know is there anybody else named in this? So I think yeah, if
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we want to establish the timeline. Jack Perry in a Collision previously wanted to
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use glass in a match and Cempunk said, we don't do that on Collision.
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We only do that. You can do that on Dynamite if you want.
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Okay, and then in all In or Yeah. In the Wembley Show,
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during the pre show match him Jungle Boy Jack Perry versus Hook he you
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he he ended up going through the windshield of a vehicle of a car on
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stage and then he said crimea river Yeah, yeah, uh, And then
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I guess when he went backstage, Punk was coming out for the next match
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and they had a confrontation, right, So yeah, I'm sure. I
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mean, I'm interested to see his punk Is said stuff about it. I'm
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sure you've heard about what punk Is said mut it. I'm interested to see
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how it all lines up and what. You know, we don't know if
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somebody was sitting down even we don't know if somebody was standing up or had
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their back turned, or was it the conversation with somebody else with this,
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We don't know, So it's gonna be interesting to see the dynamics, I
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guess. I mean, is there anything in particular that you want to see
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in this video or do you even want to see this video at all?
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I do want to see the video just out of curiosity and like, to
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me, the way that aw comes out of this looking the best, and
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the way that the way that it makes sense to me that they're even showing
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this at all is if during this confrontation between Jack Perry and Cmpunk and CM
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Punk's been like said, you know, he put Jack Perry in a headlog
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and Locke and basically made it seem like he beat up Jack Perry, Right,
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So if Jack Perry comes out of this looking strong, like, looking
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like he's the one maybe physically manhandling Sampunk. That's kind of the ideal scenario
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to me. That's the ideal scenario to you. Yeah, so let's throw
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it to the podcast team. What is the ideal scenario for this? And
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do you guys even think this should be shown? I think they should show
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it. Why is that there has been so much said negatively about a W
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and even about Tony Kahan. Personally, I just want to see it because
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I have a feeling that everything that a W has been saying about cmpunk is
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true. And I think that because in my experience, when you're telling the
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truth, you don't have to run around and defend yourself. Eventually the truth
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will come out and you don't have to scream from the rooftops. I told
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you. So, I'm telling you the truth. It just is what it
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is. So I think there's some vindication for a lot of things that have
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been said about AW in this tape, and I think it's the real deal.
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I was a little worried that there was gonna be Shenanigan's but yeah,
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I'm anxious to see it. Well, now, let me ask you a
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follow up question if you don't mind, So, is there any other scenario
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I guess other than it, other than this, this video showing that Seampunk
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lying about everything that he said. Is there any other scenario that AW comes
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out looking good? I think that it will add some credibility to the few
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things that a W has said or things that have been leaked about AW.
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If you go back to that first confrontation that Sampunk had with the EVPs and
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Kenny, a lot of that was just hearsay and you know, whispers right,
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and you know there's things that are that said about FTR and Cold Cabana,
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just just a lot of stuff. Yeah, so this is a definitive,
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is what you're saying. This video will make it more definitive. I'm
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sure there's gonna be stuff that we don't see or hear. Knowing wrestlers,
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it's probably gonna be bleeped a lot. Yeah. Yeah, but you know,
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in that Kelson, I would say that I think that Tony Kahan in
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all of this, will probably come out looking the most level headed person and
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the most in control person that you know he can be. I think that
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if if this video is legitimate, it's gonna show him kind of rising above
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chaos instead of contributing to it. And I think that's a very good look,
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well, contributing to it on purpose, because I don't know about you,
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but Tony kh kind of freaks me out and seems like he's confrontational because
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what he's talking on camera, the guy doesn't blink. I mean, that's
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just timidating like Randy Johnson. Oh god, yeah, I don't know.
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Yeah, I think he's business savvy and quiet, and people mistake that for
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him being a pushover. But I don't think you have to be super in
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your face and aggressive to get your point across either, right, So what
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do you all think? I'm against it? I think from when I think
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about this whole situation, I think AW should indeed show these tapes more so
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to clear the air as to who this would possibly positively impact and negatively impact.
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To me, it doesn't really matter that much. And here's why,
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because either way, for me anyway, I'm still going to enjoy the product
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no matter who comes out looking at looking like, you know, the bad
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guy or the good guy or the level headed guy. It really does not
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matter. Wherever the cards fall, they fall. That's The matter of fact
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is this was a real life backstage incident that just happened. You know,
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so, am I correct in asking you this? Sleazy? That if AW
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comes out in a very good light, it's not going to make you like
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the product more? And do you also feel like, Okay, if AW
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comes out in a good like and a good light on this, it's not
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going to attract new viewers like A. It may track new viewers tomorrow night,
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but I won't to attract new viewers. Oh well, Trump was gonna
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be Trump? Gee, the same thing Brunk was lying. I can't believe
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the best that was. Oh yeah, it's a Freudian sleep sort on purpose.
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No it wasn't. But you know, if if as you were saying,
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if a W comes out in a good light or even a bad light,
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if it comes off if anyone comes off bad on this, it's not
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gonna make you stop watching it. And if it come out good on it,
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it's not gonna make anybody from another promotion that doesn't watch AW come watching.
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Is that was that a fair statement to how you're feeling about it?
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Yeah, that is an accurate statement, as after all, I'm not really
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a believer of a controversy creates cash. But you know, as for there
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is something I want to mention though, I'm very curious as to how Jungle
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Boy is gonna look coming out of all this, you know, because you
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know, it could hint at potential returns. Now, I'm not saying any
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of this was a plot, as again, this was a real life incident,
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but you know, I'm just curious if this video could potentially play into
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a possible Jungle Boy return and how that's going to play into the elite.
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Yeah, well, let me ask you this. So let's just say the
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Jungle Boy Jack Perry comes out looking like a scapegoat in all of this.
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You know, It's like, according to his video, he didn't look like
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he did anything wrong, and yet he got suspended this that and the other
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thing. He's been exiled to to uh New Japan, which is not really
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an exile. He's wrestling in New Japan. He's still on the AW roster.
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And you know, reports Kate earlier that Tony Khan, you know,
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was had not talked to him for like two months afterwards, things like that.
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So, so if this shows that Jack Perry is in fact the scapegoat
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and all this doesn't that mean that Tony Khan is the heal now? Now
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that that is a good theory you have Therekelson, However, I would have
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It's not that I disagree, it's just more so I'd rather have that not
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factor into the footage that we're potentially going to see tonight, because I mean
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making Tony Kahan uh he because I'm pretty sure it's not in the best interest
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of a W in terms of their current storylines to insert the boss in,
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you know, like like the other promotion. But yeah, right, I
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agree with you there, and that's where my problem with the whole idea comes
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in. Yeah, yeah, you've got You've got You've got way too many
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things that this if the first question people are going to say. The first
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thing people are going to say is it was it's going to be edited to
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make all parties that are still in AW look great, and that they're going
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to edit. So that doesn't look good for Punk or even maybe even Jack
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Perry. But you not only messing with you have so many things that are
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going on in a against AW right now that in the end this could cause
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you more issues. It could screw up with with the way Jack Perry looks
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and that could hurt him in uh New Japan, and it could even further
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a gap that isn't really supposed to be there. But I get what they're
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gonna do. I personally don't think it's gonna be anything to do with CM
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punk because I think it's going to play into the Elite's storyline more than it's
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gonna be something about that. I just I just see so many things that
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could go wrong when you say that it's gonna play into the Elite storyline.
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Have you worked that out in your mind? Like, why is it working
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into the Elite storyline? What is the Elite storyline going to be moving forward?
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They're punks, I mean, they're they're acting like punk. They're acting
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like little punks right now. They're you know, they're doing the whole evil
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e VP thing. And I just have a feeling that this is gonna be
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more of a BTE kind of episode thing than the real footage because they did
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not specify they said they're gonna have all in backstage video specified it's specified.
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Well, if they said that, they I guess I heard my son was
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telling me that Tony said it's the real deal. But I still I don't
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know. I just there's there's something about it that just doesn't make any sense
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to me. Because you have unless this is they're gonna have to do this
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uncut. They're gonna have to make sure that they know it's uncut to make
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it work out right, Because if you, if you don't come out looking
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if everybody that's still in aw doesn't come out looking like roses, you know
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what the i w C is gonna do. They're gonna this is not gonna
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help with the with the issues we have with the Internet wrestling community. It's
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just gonna make things worse. Well, I'm gonna give you a news flash
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here, Sutton. It doesn't matter if a celestial like comes out and shows
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shows on Tony Khan and Mojo Jack Perry on whoever see him punk whoever.
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The people that don't like Tony Khan now are not gonna like him come Thursday
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morning. People don't like see him punk now or not gonna like him come?
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That's my thing? Do you So that's the question I want to ask
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you. Is there any possibility whatever is in this video that will change people's
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perception of anybody involved of couse, we don't know who's involved yet. I
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mean, we assume that we know who's involved, but we don't really know.
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But do you see this changing people's minds? No, not really.
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Only like I said, the only thing that I see happening is it could
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lead to more bad press than what you already have. That's just that's just
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how I see it coming out. If it doesn't come out and you're not
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looking perfect in this, I think it's gonna need to even further issues that
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you might know. I mean, as soon as Punk left, I I
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lost all I lost all respect for him when he came back because he was
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there for what three years and had two major controversies, and to be honest,
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he wasn't that good in the ring, and he was a name that
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was about it. It's all right the ring to me, like on his
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first run with a W before he got the series of injuries. But when
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he came back when collision started, he was just god awful. Yeah,
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and then and and he didn't help himself. I mean, you know,
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and now he's over in Lola Land and what happened to him? He's hurt
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again. Yeah, Yeah, I just think it's a good idea in my
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opinion, on this and uh, sorry to bust In, but uh,
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I just you know, I I kind of understand the controversy creates cash as
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Colston's favorite person. Eric Bischoff once said, but I just you know,
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address kick your ass, have fun getting here. I've better throw water on
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you at run. Okay, I am not a believer in this. I
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think if they're going to release it, release I don't think it belonged on
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Dynamite. They're going to release it yet to CMZ and show unedited footage.
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Yeah, you know, people are saying I talk to people who are mid
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level fans, and they're not wanting to watch as they go through with it.
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They're not wanting to watch it anymore because it comes off as petty.
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Somewhat, I understand what's going on because honestly, the other place during during
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their biggest show, was constantly going after aw There's some remark that I was
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not pleased with. And you know, I understand Seampunk did not have to
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do the interview the way he did, and I think he knew what he
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was doing. And like I said before, places I really feel that,
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you know, that was a hit job done by Seampunk at least. But
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the AW and Ethan realized how I was gonna make him. Look, if
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they do it, I don't think it can be done right because people are
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gonna say, oh, it's edited, Oh it's this, Oh it's that,
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And no matter what light you put it in, it just doesn't belong.
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It's not wrestling related in the past of the past. Honestly, if
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it's the name Seampunk never dropped on my timeline again, I would be the
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happiest person ever, because I'm done with him. I don't want to see
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him on anything. I'm so tired as ego and I'm just I'm just done
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with him. He's he's in the past, and we need to move on
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from from him and just go forward because we have so much talent that Seampunk's
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name does not need to be anywhere on AW product. And he's he's this
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generation's Haul Cogan. Yes, I would. I wouldn't even give him that,
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to be honest with you, At least ok Holgan was entertaining. Yeah,
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you know, I mean every I mean when it came to wrestling,
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he was entertaining. If you liked what he did at the ring, you
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would always like what he did at the ring. Sam punk just didn't do
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anything, that has not done anything entertaining in the ring, and well over
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probably what a year or more. Yeah, but he continues to run his
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mouth, you know, that's the thing. Yeah, so I think,
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yeah, I think you're narratively threading a needle here, because if CM punk
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is just irate and he's out of control and he's beating everyone up, like,
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there's going to be a segment of the audience who will well, he's
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beating up all the aw wrestlers, and wrestling is supposed to be have like
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tough guys. So it's a lose situation in that side of things. And
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yeah, so I don't know it's going to be interesting to see for sure.
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Well but if Jack Perry gets beat up by a by almost fifty fifty
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years older, yeah, the worst of all time, fifty year old,
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he looks bad. So how do you how do you manage that? I
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mean, he makes both look look bad. You know, if he does
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to for Tony Kahan, you know, as the reason why he looks scared,
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people are saying why he's so scared of wrestlers. He should he shouldn't
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be a promoter be scared of wrestlers. Well, this dude has no training
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in anything I where he's partly autistic or extremely introverted. He's just not that
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demeanor. And yes, I would be if a restorer come up to me
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the way that supposedly he did, then yes, I would have a be
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be scared a little bit too. I'm not a guy. I'm bout the
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side of Tony, uh you know, but I was just gonna make anybody
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look good. Yeah. Well, I mean I just want to express my
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opinion here, and my opinion is I don't really have an opinion, and
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I'm going to go back to brawl out, which guess who that involved.
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See, I'm punk, I wasn't there. I didn't see it, so
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I have no opinion on it. Now with this, I wasn't there.
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I didn't see it at all. In but I'm going to see it tomorrow
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night, supposedly allegedly. Hopefully you know, some people will have that frame
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of mind that I do. I mean, do I want to see it
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kind of? And do I don't want to see it kind of? I'm
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kind of on the fence. So but I really can't come up with an
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opinion because, like I said, you know, with like with MK was
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saying about seampunk and getting attacking or whatever, or Jack Perry. We don't
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know if Jack Perry got in to see him Punk's face, or we don't
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know if Jack Perry actually had his back turn to see him Punk. That
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makes a difference. My thing about that too is if I remember there wasn't
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all that much time between the two matches, was there enough time between the
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two matches to have a brawl and come out and Jack come out and not
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looking like he'd been in the brawl. I mean, seriously, there was
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first on the card and that was and that was a a zero hour wherever
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they call it, right after each other, so they that way. Yeah,
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then Punk Samoajo was the first match on the card, and I think,
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yeah, that was just after the fight. Yes, it just seems
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kind of weird that there was enough time in there for them to have a
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brawl and not just have words in passing. Well, maybe that's all it
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was. You know, maybe maybe that's really all it was, and everything
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else has just been exaggerated. It was just a kind of you know,
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maybe a shoulder check, a little shoving match, and you know, maybe
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maybe Tony Kahan said Hey, you know, we're we're not going to behave
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this way and then see him Punk threaten to kill him. So, I
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mean, who knows. Maybe you see him Punk didn't threaten to kill him.
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Man threw a feather duster at him. You never know, right,
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you know, but you know because I'm thinking there's janitorial services in the arena
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started at the stadium, and there's feather dusters. Oh my, don't bind
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me, don't make me, don't make me. Try to be logical.
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But look, here's the thing. Tomorrow night, about an hour before Dynamite,
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we're going to open up a mega thread specifically related to the all in
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backstage footage that the EVPs are going to present on Dynamite tomorrow night. So
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an hour before the Dynamite starts, you can go and you can post your
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speculation of what's going to happen. And also while it's happening, you can
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do one or two things. You can stay in the mega thread and you
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can post about what's happening in relation to during and after and before this all
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in backstage footage. As far as Dynamite goes, we will be holding a
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live chat in our subreddit chat rooms at aw fan Hub, and you're welcome
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to come and talk about all the matches in live time, and of course
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we'll be watching it live while it's happening, with this all in backstage footage,
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and you can get you're, you know, our knee jerk reactions to
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it. And that's basically it. I mean, it's really interesting everybody what
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everybody said, because I can't find fault that a single thing any of you
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said. I really can't, you know. So it's just like all we
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think that that proves is we have six people in this in this podcast right
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now, and we all had varying opinions in some aspects of everything that that
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was said. So the Internet wrestling community is going to be interesting for the
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next day or two, to say the least, off the internet. Kenny
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the game, the gamer guy came prediction came true. Yeah, And you
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know, and whatever whoever's out there and up there, down there, whatever
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you are, have mercy on our souls. I'm like, because isn't me
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or is it ever? Is anybody else looking like at this like you're kind
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of looking forward to it with anticipation but a huge sense of dread at the
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same time. Yes, Yeah, yeah, I'm excited, but it might
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be awful. It might really look bad for them, So it could be
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I'm just worried about my recommended feet for the next five days. Well,
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you know what. You know, look, we have the aw fantob subreddit,
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and we welcome positive and negative comments about anything that has to do with
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aaw you know. The only thing that we do ask is that basically you
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follow the rules of reddit. You follow the rules of the of the actual
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subreddit. Generally, speaking in a synopsis is don't be a dick, you
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know it. And unfortunately that's really hard for people, you know, and
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they say, I mean, like, like, are these comments being written
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by six year old kids? Yes, they are most of them. And
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I'm like, you know, people using different nicknames for different wrestlers and Tony
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Kahan and somebody. I was like, what are you doing. That's something
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that we used to do and I used to do personally when I was in
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kindergarten, you know, making up funny names for people after that, you
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you know, I mean cheese, you know. So it's tough. It's
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going to be tough being a moderator on the subreddit, not only our subreddit,
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but also on other subreddits, you know, wrestling or AW or probably
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even WWE, because there's consider to be all hell's get a break loose.
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One thing I did want to mention is did anybody see the ratings for Collision
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that happened at eleven third on Saturday night? They were They were double what
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I thought they were gonna be. Honestly, time that was weird. I
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was like, that's not right. I just kind of there's no world like
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that. And I'm an AW fan obviously, and I'm like, they messed
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up to this. You know, they need to do a recount. They
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came after, they came after the basketball game, and they came after people
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wanting that are you know, if there's any crossover fans. They came after
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the end of Night one of Russell Meania too. So yeah, but the
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show was scheduled to start at eleven thirty PM Eastern Time, and literally didn't
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start until around eleven forty five or even maybe eleven fifty, and so that
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sucker was on until like two in the morning, you know, so you
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would have figured, Remember, these ratings are the average viewers throughout the entire
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two hours, so I can see that maybe it got off to a fairly
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decent start. But I tell you what, after the game was over,
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the NCAA basketball game, those announcers droned on forever, repeating the same thing
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over and over again. With fifty million commercials. I can't imagine anybody sticking
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in and using that sticking to TNT and with that lead in, because that
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lead in was horrible. Yeah, you know, I'm just saying. But
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anyway, that is our discussion about the CMO. We will be talking about
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this tomorrow night on I'll le talk, But for now, let's get on
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with the show. Let's talk about the rest of the card for Dynamite.
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Alex, what do you want to talk about first? Yeah, I wanted
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to just shout out actually just some of the other good wrestling we had over
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the weekend. I mean, we had like a great R O H card
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with some awesome matches. I love that Kyle Fletcher, Lee Shoddy, Lee
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Johnson match, awesome women's matches, the the Stardom three Way, it was
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crazy. Mariah may MoMA Kogu, I think it's your name. I don't
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want to butcher it. Yeah, that Billy Starks match, like the ending
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for that, that was good. Did any of you did anybody else get
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just you know, just say yes or no. Did you guys see Riga
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Water Supercard of Honor? No? Nope, yeah, no, I'm okay.
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So yeah. Yeah. So Billy Starks versus Queen Amnata for the new
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r O H TV title and they had a great match, and then I
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think, yeah, right at the end of the match, Billy Starks went
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to do a swanton bomba the top rope and landed on Queen him Nada's knees
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like neck first, I think it was, and then she's like holding her
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neck, she's calling for the referee. They're all coming in. They put
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a neck brace on her like everything, like she was crying and she wasn't
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moving, and even the announcers played it, you know, yeah, god,
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it was scary, Yeah, scary. It was like, well,
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there goes Billy Starks, you know, yeah, eighteen or nineteen years old,
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and she's done and then she's Queen Himanada is holding the rope open for
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her to get out of the ring and Billy Stark's just turns around and pins
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her and it's amazing. It was great, dude. What about when Billy
30:45
Starks was kind of caught up into the ropes and kiro Hogan does this move
30:48
where she goes off the ropes and runs toward the person that's sitting basically in
30:53
the ropes and tangled to the ropes, hits them in the head with the
30:57
boot. Mm hmm. I thought I thought the match was over right then
31:03
I thought Billy Starks is dead because that they hit four unblievable. I mean,
31:11
the women really did take the show. I mean Athena and Hikaroshida was
31:17
a fantastic match, and it was kind of predictable, but you know,
31:22
they put on a good show at the Stardom the sixth woman match. Honestly,
31:30
I didn't want it to end. Yeah, they were just at the
31:33
crowd reaction. I was really interested to see how the crowd was going to
31:41
react to the Stardom women, and they brought the house down. The crowd
31:45
was vociferous, enthusiastic, and completely into it, as was I. It
31:52
was just a fun match. Yeah, yeah, it was amazing. And
31:56
though those six women are like you know, they're they're as good as,
32:00
if not better than, almost every other woman on the aw roster. Like
32:06
they're all phenomenal wrestlers. Keep in mind that there was two women in that
32:10
match that were just twenty one years old, him or Azumi. I believe
32:20
she was amazing. Yeah, she's amazing. Mina Sharikawa was amazing. Yeah,
32:25
I mean just I really liked her. Tam Nakano is amazing. And
32:31
then we got to see at the end of the match, which was really
32:36
cool for me personally, was the reunification of Rose Gold, which is Mina
32:44
Shirakawa and Mariah May. They reunited and they were something special together. And
32:51
I'm thinking we may see Marina Shirakawa and Mariah May against somebody with Tony storm
32:58
at Forbidden Door. Yeah. Actually, they're talking about it. They were
33:02
supposed to be Tony showed up, like was it third Friday last week?
33:08
She showed up Thursday Friday showed up and they were talking about it was going
33:14
to be mirror here Kawa and Tony storm At. Uh yeah. But then
33:23
that goes and leads to what are they going to do now that's going to
33:27
give them something else to put between Mariah and Tony. Yeah. Yeah,
33:30
it was good storytelling, It really was. And believe me it, Rose
33:34
Gold was a soka because Verena Mina Shirakawa is like she says insane, she
33:43
says, she's just out there. I mean she is just extroverted and as
33:52
unbashful as I've ever seen a human being be. I mean she is,
33:59
she just puts it all out there, body and soul, and it could
34:06
I don't know. It's just it's just gonna be fun. It's gonna be
34:10
fun. I mean that match was fun. If Rose Gold gets together does
34:15
a match with Tony Storman somebody, it's gonna be fun. It really is.
34:21
That's all I could say. So. Yeah. Then in the men's
34:27
matches, what was your favorite men's match of the of the Ring of Honor?
34:30
Card Alex Like, I'm a Kyle Fletcher fanboy. I feel like I'm
34:36
trying to get ahead. Yeah, I'm I'm Kyle Fletcher all the way.
34:40
Uh. I think he's yeah future, like world champion, Like he's six
34:45
three, he's if you see a picture of Kyle Fletcher from like four five
34:52
years ago, he's like skinny, he's like a cruiserweight looking guiney as can
34:58
be. Like he looks like a completely different person, and I just think
35:00
he's gonna be real great one day. Yeah, then you had the match
35:07
between Dalton Castle and Johnny TV, which was a w TF match from beginning
35:14
to end, and I'm pretty sure that that's the way they wanted it to
35:16
be because there was no wrestling in that match whatsoever. I mean, it
35:21
was just pratt fall after brat fall with interference from everybody to back. Put
35:28
on a flamingo or a peacock head dress and ran out and was one of
35:31
the boys. You know. It was just like, I mean, who
35:37
did we say? We had that John Walter Houser is that his name?
35:42
He was? He was he came out, he was Yeah, he was
35:45
a he was a boy and we had oh god. It was just like,
35:52
yeah, there's some like yeah, they had some big guys to like,
35:55
some big beefy dudes. Yeah. I mean there must have been at
36:00
the end of the matter, must have been like at least six or seven
36:05
boys out there, m hm, various sizes and they picked up Tyler,
36:09
Valkyrie and carrier to the pack to get it for it was. Yeah,
36:19
there were some guy on given that given that one some crap, I said,
36:22
do you not know where we want our history? They're they're kind of
36:27
goofy I mean that's what they do. They they don't take everything super seriously.
36:31
They've had some friends that are just really eye rolling to me sometimes,
36:37
but that's what they are, the goofy And that match was meant to be
36:40
goofy. It wasn't meant to be serious. No, it wasn't. And
36:44
then we had a surprise match between uh Bull Club Gold and uh Lance Archer
36:51
and god, I'm having a break. Alexane Monsters yeah their tag team,
36:57
Yeah, and uh who else I can't even picture who was in that match
37:00
with them, you know, you know, Murder Grandpa. Oh yeah.
37:04
And I will say this, I don't know how you feel about it,
37:07
but that was the most spot I've ever had watch him in or Suzuki ever.
37:15
He he had life in him, you know that I had not seen
37:19
before. And he was funny. What he screamed ass boy either colted or
37:25
ass I can't remember. It was at the regular time. It was hysterical,
37:30
and of course the champions retained and then the acclaim comes out, yeah
37:37
you know, and yeah, and a belt nor Suzuki. He had a
37:39
match actually like just hours before somewhere else in Philadelphia for Joey Janella's spring break.
37:46
So he just gotten a taxi, flew over and showed up for another
37:52
match, got a taxi, it flew over for his back to the Future
37:57
shit or something here, Yeah, you know, under it under an hour
38:01
the larean text. There you go. But yeah, I mean it was
38:07
a great card. But if you do have an opportunity and you do get
38:13
Honor Club, it is well worth watching because there was some seriously good entertainment,
38:20
arguably better than some of the stuff that AW itself puts out, especially
38:24
if you like women's matches, because they match. I watched what's that man,
38:32
Eddie Kingston? Oh yeah, that you know, I gotta say something
38:39
about that match, you know, because again there wasn't a whole lot of
38:46
wrestling in that match, you know. But I have a lot of respect
38:52
for Eddie Kingston because for for that match, because I mean, he made
38:58
it believable, but it was kind of obvious he was gonna lay down and
39:02
play dead, you know, for for Mark Briscoe. And then at the
39:07
end of it, you know, you could see, and this is what
39:13
I really liked about it with Kingston. You could see in Kingston's face how
39:20
absolutely over the moon happy he was for Mark Briscoe. There was no question
39:29
that Eddie Kingston loved every second of that match. Mm hmm. And that's
39:32
something because you know, wrestlers could be selfish, as can every other human
39:37
being in the world. And Eddie Kingston now has lost two of his titles
39:43
and is likely going to lose a third as soon as he wrestled somebody from
39:45
New Japan. Uh Sunday, I think Sunday or Saturday this weekend. He's
39:53
Gabe kid. Yeah, okay, he'll be next week. Yeah. So
39:59
you go from title holder the title list. So yeah, so anyway,
40:05
let's again like a phoenix from the ashes. Well, I like Eddie most
40:12
as the guy that's fighting for a title rather than three title holder draped and
40:19
gold Eddie. I agree. I like Eddie as a guy who gets his
40:22
head bashed in, but it's for a reason, you know, like you
40:25
know, a vendetta or grudge or something like that. But Eddie should never
40:30
win a match ever. Awful from here, I thought there was a heart,
40:42
you know, It's just like I was. Even if Eddie was wrestling
40:46
in the Paralympics, the Paralympic wrestlers would be better than Eddie Kings. That
40:52
was classless and horrible, but it's the truth. I'm sitting here and I'm
41:00
like a shaved of myself and proud of myself at the same time for saying
41:05
that, Oh my goodness, the Golden Girls for you tonight. Don't go
41:17
to the girls. Don't be Arthur. You will get that when you see
41:21
the graphic for the Bega Bega threat tomorrow. On the awats reddit, Alex
41:28
what match diedeal talk about? Okay, Yeah, let's talk about this trios
41:35
match Chris Jericho Shebata. This is like the first time I'm reading that.
41:39
So Shabata is now in the Jericho verse, so that's cool. Yeah.
41:45
And then we have Shane Taylor Promotions newly joined by Anthony A Gogo. Oh
41:52
yeah, Like yeah. When I first heard Anthony and Gogo is joining them,
41:57
I'm like, oh, maybe they're gonna start winning some matches. And
42:00
now I see who they're facing, and I know they're not going to win
42:04
this match. Good. I don't. I'm not a fan of a go
42:09
Go ever since his his his feud with Cody Rhodes, but way back when
42:15
I just he doesn't have it for me. But I seen somebody out there
42:21
likes him. Uh, he just I don't know. I don't like him
42:24
personally either. Some of the statements he's made to different wrestlers. I think
42:30
he's a jerk. So that's just that's just me. What did he say?
42:37
Uh, he was making fun of Grisham's tithe and said something my wife,
42:46
oh and some other stuff like that. He's break it. I want
42:53
to break in here. It gives me had a little fun last week.
42:55
Remember Hooks Dynamite graphic last week. Well, he is on this is his
43:02
face is on this one. But I want to know your guys are gonna
43:07
laugh. I want to know how tall Lee Moriarty is and is he actually
43:13
a foot shorter that at the Go go? And and Shane Taylor because he
43:17
looks like he looks like a little kid this traffic. He looks like he's
43:25
about two foot four next to men. I mean he's he's not a very
43:30
big guy. Yeah, but like I know, he's not a giant guy.
43:36
But you can't tell me he's that small. I mean, look at
43:38
Shane Taylor's face, it's like two and a half times the size of Lee
43:43
Briarty's face. Oh wow, I'm thinking right there. I don't know,
43:50
I just think it. I just looked at it and I was like,
43:52
okay, I'm sorry, go ahead guys. Oh god, So does anybody
44:00
have the STP winning this match? Not at all? No, why should
44:12
we start now? Right? And again, you never knew you get on
44:16
the jobber stated by Tony Collins. Yeah, let's have them win f like,
44:24
have them beat the Dark Order or something in a on Collision. You
44:29
know, but if you want to see him win, you have to watch
44:32
Rampage. I guess Rampage. I did a post about this on the subreddit.
44:37
I think it's been a year since Lee Moriarty has won a match.
44:45
Shane Taylor last one to match over a year ago on Dark He's never wont
44:50
to match like on Collision, Dynamite or whatnot. M hmm. I think
44:54
it was MK brought up go Go's uh feud with Cody Rhodes. Was it
45:00
UMK that did dead or was it Sutton? Okay, Cody Rhodes is the
45:07
only aw wrestler that ever beat Anthea Gogo. Anthia Gogo actually has something like
45:12
a twenty and one record in all matches. I mean, he's got a
45:15
long list of wins, none of them worth the damn. You know.
45:19
They're against you know, local talents that were brought on the Dark and stuff,
45:23
other than Cody Rhodes, which he lost, but he does have a
45:25
lot of wins. Yeah, yeah, I misspoke, I said rampage.
45:30
But now you have to watch Ring of Honor to see these guys win because
45:34
that's like the Jobbers show now instead of Dark. Yeah, it's just an
45:42
entertain I mean I don't care about this match. I don't. No,
45:45
I literally don't care about it. Either MK or or something whoever said that
45:52
pist bring match in the night. But I always like Shabata, I mean
46:00
I do too. But I mean look, I mean we know that Chris
46:06
Jericho, Cook and Chibati are gonna win this match, and they're gonna drag
46:10
it out for ten minutes for no reason. Well we could be seeing something
46:15
better. Yeah, I can't argue with that. That's my whole point.
46:21
And that's that's where aw they have their jobbers and that's it. And you
46:27
know when you see somebody they're gonna lose yep, So well well they may
46:32
you know, it might be a thing with the Go Go knocks out Jericho.
46:37
Well, I would pay to see that. That's a possibility. M
46:43
hm. He did the other question, but they may be the end.
46:51
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, fair enough, we will move on
46:57
to something people are more excited about. The rest of the matches actually look
47:00
good. So thank you for picking the piece of Ship match first there,
47:05
Alex Well, I was curious about STP. But yeah, everyone, Oh
47:13
yeah, I would have been like at the end of the show, Oh
47:15
yeah STP is fighting Jericho Shabata. Thank you for listening. Goodbye. You
47:21
know what kind of thing you know? Actually, this is the first time
47:25
I saw it. I was like, oh shit and go goo. Okay,
47:30
anyways, let's switch here, working up Mariah May versus Anna J.
47:39
What are your thoughts on this match? Another good showcase for Mariah. Maybe
47:50
she has to bounce back after that loss. Well, did she have a
47:55
false window? Did she actually win the match but it wasn't counted or am
48:00
I just thinking about pretty much every other match at AW does in the women's
48:04
division these days. M hm, No, she lost and she I mean
48:12
she lost to h It was a loss. Does anybody want does anybody want
48:22
to see Anna J win this match? I'd love to see energy. It
48:28
won't happen. Yeah, I don't think it's gonna happen yet. Yeah,
48:34
I mean she do she you know, she gets a hard time from people,
48:39
But I personally I think Anna Ja is I mean, she's she's a
48:44
bigger girl, you know, meaning that she's taller, and she's not like
48:47
this little waif you know. But I don't think that she's as bad as
48:52
people make her out to be, you know, because I've heard some very
48:57
negative comments about Anna j. But I don't think they've watched that a jay
49:00
In the last couple of years, she's approved a lot. Oh yeah,
49:04
she doesn't. And the thing with her is she's she's not been doing this
49:10
that long, you know what I mean. She's like in this is what
49:15
her fourth or fifty years she's been wrestling, right, so you know,
49:20
she's improved a lot from when she first started, and she's got a long
49:23
way she could go. But it's just she just kind of falls into that.
49:29
With the women's division the way it seems anymore, there's the group that's
49:31
gonna win and then there's the ones that aren't. Yeah, she she was
49:38
handpicked by Brodie Lee, so that's a big deal. But I remember she
49:44
gave Jay Cargo some pretty good matches and made her look decent, So I
49:49
don't think she's terrible. I think she does what she does and she's kind
49:52
of the mid card feud person, kind of like Ruby Soho and all that.
49:58
They're not terrible and they and it put on decent matches and make people,
50:01
so that's where their job is and they do it right. By the
50:07
way, I do want to give a shout out to Jade Cargill, a
50:09
former AW champion, so it's relevant to bring it up on this podcast.
50:15
She did defeat Chelsea Green and her first singles WWE match, it took her
50:22
only thirty two seconds, So way to go, Jade. It took you
50:25
less time to beat a WWE female wrestler that it did ANYAW wrestler that was
50:31
on the AW roster, So way to go. Improve make that proof that
50:37
AW hicks WWE's ass. That's it, Seriously, it's she beat She did
50:45
beat Sky Blue with I think it was in like a minute one time,
50:52
but she did beat like one other person in an AW match in thirty one
50:55
seconds, but she wasn't on the AW roster. She was like you know,
51:00
Patty Upper Princess, you know from Pennsylvania, you know kind of thing.
51:08
So so yeah, so it took her, after all that training that
51:14
she did, she finally beat She did all that training to prove that a
51:20
w wrestlers lasts longer in the ring than Jake with Jake Cargilden w W Wrestlers.
51:27
Wow, way to go w W E. I'm just josh it,
51:34
come on, you know, I don't know if any one you know,
51:39
yeah, can can she start a new undefeated streak? Like? Does that
51:43
count? I guess you can start a new undefeated streak in a obviously weaker
51:50
promotion, you know, with the just want you know. W W apparently
51:53
signed Julia and they're putting her on that XT. I'm like, what the
52:00
only reason you put Julia on n XT is because she's so much better than
52:05
everybody else. They don't want her to kill anybody, Gonna literally have to
52:08
rain Julia in. That's the problem with that's the problem with that place.
52:14
They they and even though it's no longer vinced, if you're not homegrown,
52:20
you don't go where you want to go. Get Yeah, I no,
52:25
she didn't, But okay, come on, man, I mean, I
52:30
think she should have spent because they used to do that. But I think
52:38
NXT is not like what it used to be. It seems only like it's
52:42
just young people where it used to be like indie wrestlers and young people.
52:47
Yeah. Yeah, they they pretty much made it their their second brand and
52:52
you know where they try to say that this and that and the other.
52:54
But yeah, it's it's nothing like what it used to be. Is not
53:00
the same, Well look at it. The My point is is that Mariah
53:04
May and and a J could kick anybody's ass in w W. That's my
53:07
point. I just wanted to say that the rile up people. But anyway,
53:12
it is I said I said this last week. I really believe that
53:15
Mariah May is probably up easily top three best women's wrestlers, arguably could be
53:23
number one in in a W. I think she's that good. And that
53:28
has a lot to do with stardom because when stardom, if Stardom and AW
53:34
do UH do a partnership, it's just gonna be so much. It's gonna
53:39
be so good for stardom because startdom is losing members of their roster, but
53:45
they still have plenty left in the tank uh, and it's gonna be great
53:49
for a W because they're gonna have to be great to compete with Startom.
53:53
You know, it is, it is what it is. So so I
54:00
think we all agree that Varamey is gonna beat n a J. But we'd
54:01
like to see na J win, you know, at least doing really really
54:05
well. Oh she'll do well, Yeah, she'll do well. He'll do
54:10
well. Yeah, Alex, let's move on. What do you what do
54:17
you want? What do you want me to fed people with? Next?
54:21
Let's Adam Copeland Penta zero meeto. I guess I don't have a lot to
54:28
say about this. I think Adam Copeland's going to win for sure, but
54:32
I feel like we haven't seen well. I think he was on Collision,
54:35
which I missed, but yeah, that more Penta is always cool by me.
54:43
Did you guys see the Pentam and Commander match on Collision? I missed
54:46
it? Man was it was? It was a great match. It was
54:57
great. Pent is one of those guys that just goes and he's he's he
55:01
does live that no fear, you know what I mean? And when his
55:06
when him and his brother together, they're one of my favorite tag teams.
55:08
Because those guys just are over the top. And somebody was talking about that,
55:15
I can't it was I think the announcement we're talking about that any match
55:19
that has Penda in it is like guaranteed to be a great match. Yeah
55:24
yeah, I mean, do you think the Pent's gonna he's gonna small chance.
55:29
I would love to see him win it, but it's too ready for
55:31
coping to lose it. Yeah, they're not gonna. They're not gonna have
55:35
him lose it in a in a Cope open. It's gonna be at a
55:37
pay per view when he does. Yeah. Oh yeah, well you know
55:43
what, I wouldn't be upset if at the pay per view it was Pentha
55:45
that yeah, was at least not say beat him, but in the in
55:50
the pay per view with him, because Penta, as you said, was
55:52
is that good? Yeah? And he deserves to be in the limelight,
55:58
and that's a that's a that's a big issue for a w You've got so
56:00
many people that deserve to be there that just can't be you know what I
56:06
mean. So yeah already, so yeah, I'll be there. But oh
56:15
yeah, yeah, so yeah, I mean it's yeah, yeah, I
56:20
mean I like Panta for what he's worth. He's a good wrestler. I
56:24
would love to see him more storylines by himself. I would love to see
56:30
uh, look you underground Panta more than what we see now because he was
56:37
he was great there. But I think he, you know, without his
56:39
brother, he's kind of lost, I feel. So maybe he gets back,
56:43
they'll get back to business. You think he'll be smart to put somebody
56:46
like Panta or even some of the other Loop doores like Commander in matches and
56:52
Forbidden Door with CMO c m l L wrestlers as their partners, just to
56:59
give the familim. Yeah, those you need to speak the same language too,
57:05
or even put him in matches against each other. I mean if if,
57:08
if you know, if Penti's brother's not back by then hopefully he will
57:15
be, you know, have him in Commander go up against a CMLACK attack
57:19
team. That would be crazy. Yeah. I think one of the things
57:23
that I've heard is that there's drama between Triple A and CMLL and Penta's like
57:30
a Triple A guy, so as if not allowed to be in matches together,
57:35
they can be on the same card but not competing against or with each
57:37
other. Yeah, I've heard that. Yeah, that was a thing with
57:43
was it New Japan? New Japan had a everybody said they had an agreement
57:46
with one of them, but they couldn't have an agreement with the other issues
57:52
for working with a W and then somehow they worked that out. Mm hmm.
57:59
Yeah. The only drama is not just awwwb, it's also right,
58:04
wasn't wasn't Ray Phoenix, Alex and Triple A and left Triple A completely.
58:10
I think it might have been Rouge that that left Triple A completely, But
58:15
I think like Phoenix and Penta are still kind of friends with Conan, who's
58:22
involved with the backstage stuff of Triple A, so I think there's still ties
58:28
there. Yeah. I think the backstory behind that is that Phoenix really wanted
58:32
to become a US citizen and so he couldn't travel. When you're trying to
58:37
do that, I guess you need to stay in the United States and be
58:40
a citizen. So I don't know if Phoenix is a US citizen yet,
58:45
but that's what I understand that he was trying to do, and that's why
58:49
he left Triple A. And he must be healthy soon. I thought,
58:54
I thought I saw somewhere that he's having a match media another promotion. Yeah
59:00
yeah, maybe. I mean I like Phoenix too. I mean they're good,
59:07
both of them together with Pack dest Triangles are really good trios, even
59:10
though I'm not a fan of a Tree at all. And I think you're
59:15
gonna see the unification of those trios championships pretty soon. And I really do
59:21
think it's gonna be an r H championship and not any a W championship.
59:24
Please, you know, the same guy, you know that I was kind
59:29
of sort of praying to before, make it happen. So yeah, so
59:37
let's move on because obviously we're just not really talking too much about this match.
59:44
We have the whole Tony we have another is this Is this a new
59:47
feature from Tony Storm. I see Luther, Mariah May and thunder Rosa and
59:52
Tony Storm and Tony Storm and Tony Storm in the graphic here, Uh,
59:58
championship champagne? What's that? What could that possibly mean? What could that
1:00:04
mean? She's gonna come out do to Charleston's gonna fight thunder Roses to the
1:00:08
ring. They're gonna have a champagne toast. It's gonna hit thunder Rosa over
1:00:13
the head. With the champagne bottle, and that's gonna be the end of
1:00:16
it, that's my prediction. Or they're just gonna get in the ring and
1:00:22
wearing these old timey outfits, or they're just gonna do to Charleston. In
1:00:25
Charleston, West Virginia. There you go in place place some swing music.
1:00:34
Yeah, is this what Charleston? I'm not familiar. I'm Canadians. So
1:00:37
Charleston, West Virginia doesn't seem like Hollywood Tony Storm to me. I don't
1:00:45
know. It's the capital West Virginia. But you know it's one of those
1:00:49
things where they used to go there a lot. People go to Charles,
1:00:53
They go to all the different places to go to Charleston a lot. It's
1:00:57
one of the bigger towns in West Virginia. Yeah, they have like seven
1:01:01
or eight cows there. It's a little bigger than that. Listen, just
1:01:08
because it's in the just because it's in the Appalachian Mountains and in Appalachia doesn't
1:01:14
mean it's small. Alasia is that the palt Isn't that the country of the
1:01:20
Princess Diaries? You are the Queen of Appalachia. I don't know about that.
1:01:25
I didn't see the Princess Diaries. Oh my god, how could you
1:01:29
not see the Princess Diaries. It's a classic. Because I was an adult,
1:01:32
you didn't have any reason to watch it, and my daughter was old
1:01:36
enough and was into dirty dancing. I've never seen I've never been the Diary,
1:01:42
so I don't feel bad. So I haven't seen it. So obviously
1:01:45
you haven't seen Princess Diaries too either. For shape guys, I'm waiting for
1:01:51
Princess Diaries three D then I might what's it? Yeah, there you go
1:01:58
that. Have you seen Princess Diary? Yes? I have, Thank god.
1:02:02
Well is it? Is it? Or is it not a classic?
1:02:06
It's a classic. I mean it's not. It's no double you know,
1:02:09
Devil Wears Praduct. But it is a classic. It's a classic. Yeah.
1:02:14
Yeah, I love the one where Andrea the Giant wasn't it is it?
1:02:20
No? Yes? Yes it was, yes, Yes, that's the
1:02:28
one halfway, Yes it is halfway and Andrea Giant, there's a horse.
1:02:42
Basically, I've heard it's a very good movie. I just never watched it.
1:02:49
Wasn't my cup of tea? Yeah? Well, oh boy, okay,
1:02:54
so that's that's my prediction. We'll see what happens. How we got
1:03:00
from Charleston, West Virginia to the Princess Diaries. I brought it up,
1:03:09
but I'm blaming you all. I have to go back and listen to the
1:03:14
podcast out to see how the hell did that happen. Oh a w is
1:03:23
coming to the Seattle area for one of their next shows in May. I
1:03:30
believe I'm gonna try to go. I don't know yet, but I'm gonna
1:03:36
try and see if I can go. So there's still some tickets available.
1:03:40
We'll see what happens. A w fan hub business cards and throw them at
1:03:45
the crowd getting thrown at them. Throw them like the young Bucks, throw
1:03:52
the throw their money. Yeah. Yeah, it's been so Alex. And
1:04:03
what do we have? One more match? Is that it? Yeah?
1:04:08
Yeah, one more match? Samoa Jo versus Dustin Rhodes. And I can
1:04:13
only think this is done because Cody Rhodes is such a big deal in w
1:04:18
w E now and they just want to bring out his brother to have a
1:04:21
match. That's kind of how I see this going, and they don't see
1:04:26
him winning. I think Samojo's got this, but it'll be a good match.
1:04:30
I mean Dustin's one of the better performers, and he's been around long
1:04:35
enough and he's, like I like to call him, he's a natural so
1:04:39
hooper, are on a good match, But yeah, I'm not thrill that
1:04:45
the match matches on on Dynamite. Well, he's also one of the most
1:04:49
respected ones too, wouldn't you say? Yes? Yes? Yeah. I
1:04:55
kind of think Justin is quietly going away. He's he's not going to necessarily
1:05:00
announce it, but he is just very quietly getting all of the matches he's
1:05:05
he's wanted to have, and he's going to make an exit from wrestling soon.
1:05:14
Do you want him to win a few of them? It was like,
1:05:15
you know, okay, I've lost everybody. I can go now.
1:05:17
You know what, it seems like I really want him to get a title
1:05:23
before I do too. I mean, I Dustin can still go. I
1:05:30
could see him winning the International. That would be good, that would be
1:05:39
maybe he will. I don't care. What's the ring of on our title?
1:05:41
I mean something I don't. I don't. I don't want him to
1:05:46
go to ring Abot. I want him. I think the I think the
1:05:49
suggestion for the international title, I think that's a really good suggestion. I
1:05:54
really do. I know he's never won a world title, but I'm I
1:06:00
want to see him in a w win the title in the in the big
1:06:02
company. I guess the best way to put it a big company. Yeah,
1:06:08
that would be that would be a good way for him to go out.
1:06:10
I mean I get that most people, like you know we talked about
1:06:13
when Sting retired, they usually go out on their back. But I would
1:06:16
love to see him get at least one time. It doesn't even matter if
1:06:19
it's like from one pay per view to the next, but get him a
1:06:23
shot in the title because he's I mean, he's been doing this for what
1:06:27
fifty years or so four decades? Forty years? Yeah, like for eight
1:06:34
Yeah. I can remember him when he was back in those days. Yeah,
1:06:43
he had the bunk house ball and you have the match on the back
1:06:47
of the trailer. Yeah. So I was thinking of, you know,
1:06:51
this match has got to be kind of hard on Samo Joe because obviously he
1:06:55
wants he's gonna win. But I think that some old Joe's the type of
1:06:58
person he's gonna do everything he can to make Dustin Rhodes look good. It
1:07:04
didn't take much, no, and I think it's gonna be. This is
1:07:10
this is one of those kind of messes that you can actually say they you
1:07:13
don't have to have somebody put the other one over, you know what I
1:07:15
mean, because we're both really good and you know it's gonna end up probably
1:07:21
with uh Sworth coming out, so there's gonna probably be They'll probably say there's
1:07:29
gonna be overtime tomorrow. So you know, that's just more more opportunity for
1:07:34
that to uh blossom. Well, you know, one of the things that
1:07:39
I'm interested in, and this correlates with the all in backstage video. What
1:07:45
if this video shows Samoa Joe and as the hero of the whole story,
1:07:51
we don't know, you know, what if it shows him. What if
1:07:55
it shows him as the guy that brought reason and respectability back to the backstage
1:08:01
and then they come out with the Samoa Joe match with Dustin Rose right after
1:08:05
they showed a video. You know, I mean, because we all know
1:08:11
that you know, the STP and the Sbata Jericho Hook match is going to
1:08:16
be the main event, because yes, because because Tony Kahn just does that
1:08:25
ship. Anyway, guys, where would you guys put where would you guys
1:08:32
put the video package that they're going to first. Would you make people tune
1:08:38
in for a while in the middle or how would you guys do it?
1:08:43
I would personally put it first because I would want to get it done and
1:08:47
over with so that you can because unless it's something that is like earth shaking
1:08:57
revealing, it's going to slew it on the moment of the show. Yeah,
1:09:03
so you either got to do it first or you got to do it
1:09:05
last. You gotta do it first, but you got you gotta do it
1:09:11
first, but you got to give something something going on while it's going on,
1:09:15
like have a picture and picture kind of things showing Samoa and Joe while
1:09:18
Somemojoe is participating in the video, and then have the Samoa Joe and Dustin
1:09:23
Rose match next, you know, and may even show Dustin Rhodes a picture
1:09:28
of Dustin Rhodes in the audience at at WrestleMania, So that would grab the
1:09:34
because here's the point I'm making here is that people are gonna be tuning in
1:09:40
for the first time just to see this video. If you put on Shabbata
1:09:45
Jericho and Hook first against STP, They're going to change a channel before the
1:09:50
match is even halfway done. Sorry, but they are. Yeah, yeah,
1:09:56
I agree. So you use the video to promote your next match and
1:10:00
then hopefully you get you know, those people entertained for twenty thirty minutes and
1:10:06
hope that some of them will stick around and watch the rest of the show.
1:10:11
Yeah. Yeah, so it's gonna be interesting. I mean, that
1:10:17
whole thing is I don't know. I just don't know. I have mercy,
1:10:27
honest, that's all I can say. Like I said, I just
1:10:32
I don't know about this, this whole deal. Yeah, too much of
1:10:38
a WCW moment. I don't think it's gonna be one that we look back
1:10:42
on and say, okay, whatever. I just don't think it's gonna be
1:10:45
that. It's either gonna be very very bad or very very good. And
1:10:49
what I mean very bad. It could be very very bad, stupid,
1:10:54
idiotic, senseless. Am I good at just maybe like wow, that made
1:10:59
a you look pretty good? Mm hmmm, at least very entertaining. I
1:11:03
guess the hope I can see I can actually see this being a BT skit
1:11:13
with with people in the back, like playing the parts to do a skiit
1:11:18
type thing. I really can see that happening. Yeah, Yeah, because
1:11:25
the fact that, yeah, maybe you could get ReHO to play the feather
1:11:29
duster. I'm sorry, I love you know that. You know, I
1:11:43
have a lot of respect to Reope. I'm just I'm not saying about her
1:11:45
size. I'm saying about the frilly, feathery outfits she wears Dorm movie,
1:11:49
you know. So anyway, definitely interesting. I don't know, I'm just
1:11:58
in a weird mood. I'm trying to giddy thinking about this tomorrow night.
1:12:01
It's like I'm looking forward to it with It's such a dread and it's such
1:12:03
a wonder at the same time. You know, Yeah, we'll see where
1:12:09
I don't. It could go either way, honestly, Yeah, I mean
1:12:14
there are It's very interesting listening to reading comments from the Internet wrestling community,
1:12:18
especially on aw Fano, because people are just they've already made up their mind
1:12:24
how it's going to go mm hmm. It's like, I mean, unfortunately,
1:12:30
that's that's that's what people do nowadays. You know, they listen to
1:12:34
whatever was said about it when it happened and make up their mind. They're
1:12:40
not gonna worry about what it actually gonna show. And that's part of why
1:12:44
I think there could be an issue you've already got. So it's my biggest
1:12:47
deal with problem with it is it's been too long. It's almost been a
1:12:51
year. You know, what's the point now. I mean literally nobody in
1:12:58
aw you should even give two ships with Ac and Punk says, because we
1:13:01
all know what he is. He's he's in an attention getter that's gonna come
1:13:05
out, run his mouth and say whatever. I'm trying to make himself look
1:13:08
good. And to me, if you're you know, if this would have
1:13:11
been right after it happened, they say, hey, this is why we
1:13:15
fired him. Show the video. Yeah, well some stupid interview the popa
1:13:23
bear and I guess took the bait. So well, it's going to be
1:13:30
fun and I you know, I highly recommend people join us on the live
1:13:35
chat during nine of mine and the aw FANU chat rooms tomorrow. I know
1:13:39
some of you will be there because it's gonna be it's gonna be nuts,
1:13:44
it's gonna be there's either gonna be a lot of clapping, cheering or you
1:13:48
know, severe eye rolling. And uh, it's just weird. I mean
1:13:55
so many different reactions. It's just already. I mean it was nobody's even
1:14:00
seen it yet and people are reacting to it like how But anyway, all
1:14:06
I can say is nothing, I plead the fifth. Yeah, well we'll
1:14:16
have a lot to say tomorrow, that's for sure. Yeah, well,
1:14:20
give everybody a chance to spew their mind little hearts out tomorrow night and on
1:14:27
I'll lead talk after Dynamite. So anyway, well that's going to be the
1:14:32
show for tonight. It was just it was a weird show tonight because we
1:14:39
were focused on one thing. Basically, let's face it. You know,
1:14:45
their announcement has done what it's probably meant to have been done, and that's
1:14:48
to get interest for Dynamite tomorrow night. The crowd is secondary. The size
1:14:55
of the crowd, meaning is secondary. The match card is almost secondary.
1:15:00
We will be tuning in to watch that video and hopefully that's not all that's
1:15:05
interesting in the show. So m hmm, it does something needs to be
1:15:10
said, is because look, if if they do show it first, we're
1:15:14
gonna leave to talk about it. Yeah, it's not a show. So
1:15:19
yeah, so anyway, it's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be interesting.
1:15:24
So anyway, unless they say something like we'll have more Part two of the
1:15:28
video is coming. What if they do that part one, part two of
1:15:32
the video and in this just before our main event. Yeah, that's that's
1:15:41
complete w c W thing right there, which means let's do it, guys.
1:15:46
Yeah, Eric bishoff my hero, you asshole. Anyway you're here.
1:15:55
Maybe maybe they'll bring him out to be the moderator. Oh jesu. Oh
1:16:01
good. The I think worse than Eric Bishop is Vince Russo. Seriously,
1:16:06
come on, anyway, don't even get me started on that. You know,
1:16:12
does he did do one good thing. He gave us the greatest w
1:16:15
CW champion of all time, and of course I'm talking about David Arcatt anyway,
1:16:20
any take that mic away from him? Oh god? Anyway. So
1:16:30
anyway, that's going to be the show, and we will see you tomorrow
1:16:35
night on all Lead Talk for Ignition and all of the aw fanb podcast team.
1:16:42
This is Kelson Alex. Good night, everybody,