Latest / Impact Ready / 126. The Pygmalion Effect
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- 0:02Welcome to Impact Ready, a show dedicated to helping you elevate
- 0:06your impact in the world. I'm Steph Safra, your host.
- 0:09Let's explore the power of showing up with intention and
- 0:12energy each day. This is for those who seek to
- 0:15make life truly meaningful. Get ready for impact.
- 0:21Good morning, team. Thank you for being here and
- 0:22listening to the show. This podcast is called Impact
- 0:26Ready for the very specific reason that I wanted to start to
- 0:30highlight conversations around our individual and our
- 0:33collective impact. I've always been pretty
- 0:35fascinated by the fact that any time we walk into a room, we
- 0:40have an effect and an influence on that room with our energy,
- 0:44with our presence. I love observing how things
- 0:48interact and how malleable circumstances can be just based
- 0:52on the energy that somebody brings into a room.
- 0:54I think it's so cool. And I also love the idea of the
- 0:58ripple effect, how one small action can create exponential
- 1:01change down the road, you know, down the timeline.
- 1:05And we talk about that all the time.
- 1:07But one of the other big reasons I wanted to have conversations
- 1:11about this topic, our impact, is because most people are pretty
- 1:15unaware of their impact. They really don't have a sense
- 1:19of how they're showing up. They're not cognizant of the
- 1:23energy they bring into the room. They sort of just wander around
- 1:27and react to the situations that are happening around them.
- 1:30And it just reminds me of that analogy getting tossed around in
- 1:34the waves of life. Most people are not really
- 1:38intentional about the impact they have.
- 1:41And I think that's part of being human.
- 1:44We forget that we have impact. We forget that we have
- 1:47influence. It's sort of like breathing.
- 1:50We just breathe and we don't think about breathing.
- 1:53It's a subconscious thing. It's part of our autonomic
- 1:55nervous system. And so we don't have to devote a
- 1:57lot of brain power to thinking about it.
- 2:00And the same is very similar of our impact.
- 2:02We don't have to devote a ton of energy into having impact and
- 2:07influence. It just happens.
- 2:09But the problem with that is many times people aren't very
- 2:13purposeful about the influence that they're having.
- 2:16And because of that, it becomes random, it becomes inconsistent.
- 2:21Often times it becomes negative without us really wanting it to
- 2:23be that way. And so talking about all these
- 2:26different ideas about how we can have impact and how we can make
- 2:28it better has become a really important passion of mine.
- 2:33And today in this episode, I want to talk about an idea that
- 2:36you've probably heard about before.
- 2:38It's called the Pygmalion effect, and it's all about
- 2:40influence and impact. This is something that people
- 2:43talk about in this sphere all the time.
- 2:45Thought leaders speak about this effect.
- 2:47It's also called the Rosenthal effect.
- 2:49But I think it's a really cool idea and it's something that we
- 2:52forget about, so I wanted to bring it to light today.
- 2:55The origins of this idea go way back to Roman times.
- 2:58That was a Roman poet named Ovid.
- 3:00He was writing about a sculptor named Pygmalion, and according
- 3:05to this poet Ovid, Pygmalion could look at a piece of marble
- 3:09and just visualize the sculpture that was trapped inside of it.
- 3:12So the story goes that he'd have a vision of his piece of art
- 3:15before it even came to life. And in particular, he had this
- 3:19vision of carving and sculpting a, a piece of marble that was
- 3:24inspired by a vision of his ideal woman.
- 3:26And he ultimately did achieve that.
- 3:28He chiseled away at a piece of marble and created a statue that
- 3:31represented this woman, this ideal vision, this dream that he
- 3:36had. And the story goes that he
- 3:38eventually asked the goddess of love, Venus, to grant him a wish
- 3:42and make his dream ideal vision of a woman come to life, make it
- 3:47a reality. And according to the myth, she
- 3:49did and and his beliefs and his expectations became a reality.
- 3:53This is all just the background context of this idea.
- 3:56When we're talking about modern day research around this
- 3:59phenomenon, the Pygmalion effect, we can jump to 20th
- 4:03century when one of the most well known psychology
- 4:06experiments was performed by Robert Rosenthal.
- 4:09It's why they call it the Rosenthal effect.
- 4:11And he went into elementary school classrooms and gave
- 4:14intelligence tests to all the students.
- 4:17Then the researchers told all the teachers in the classrooms
- 4:20which students that data had identified as being the bloomers
- 4:24or the academic superstars, the ones who had the greatest
- 4:27potential for growth. And they told the teachers not
- 4:30to mention the results of the study to the students and not to
- 4:33spend any more or less time with them, not to give them any
- 4:36special attention, give no indication that they were the
- 4:40academic superstars of the class.
- 4:42So they followed these kids and at the end of the year the
- 4:46students were tested again. And what they discovered through
- 4:49the research was that the students that they had
- 4:51identified as being the bloomers, the academic
- 4:53superstars, they actually ended up displaying the most
- 4:57intellectual ability. They turned out to be the
- 5:00academic superstars. They were off the charts in
- 5:02comparison to other students. The reason this experiment was
- 5:07so important is because of the way that it was constructed and
- 5:10it was such that at the beginning every student who had
- 5:13been identified as being a bloomer and as an academic
- 5:17superstar, they were actually pretty ordinary.
- 5:19The researchers had just randomly picked students names
- 5:22and then they lied to the teachers about their ability.
- 5:25So the question became, how did the students actually turn into
- 5:29the bloomers? What caused them ordinary
- 5:32students to become an extraordinary student by the end
- 5:35of the year? And what they discovered was
- 5:38that even though the teachers hadn't said anything directly to
- 5:41the kids about their abilities, about their expectations, they
- 5:44hadn't spent any more or less specialized time with them.
- 5:48There were two things that had happened in the study that
- 5:51created this different response and outcome.
- 5:54The first thing that happened was the belief that the teachers
- 5:57had and the students potential had been unwittingly and non
- 6:02verbally communicated to them. And secondly, these non verbal
- 6:05messages were taken in by the students and they were
- 6:07transformed into reality. So they actually turned into
- 6:11highly intellectual academic superstars.
- 6:14And this is what they call the Pygmalion effect.
- 6:17And it's specifically when our belief in another person's
- 6:21potential brings that potential to life.
- 6:25This is huge. It is when our belief in another
- 6:29person's potential brings that potential to life.
- 6:32So just as the teachers believed that these students had ability,
- 6:37they then brought that ability to life and ended up being
- 6:40intellectual superstars at the end of the year.
- 6:43And I wanted to bring this up because I want us to think about
- 6:46the implications of this. The expectations that we have
- 6:51can bring about change and outcomes and influence in
- 6:55another person. This applies to our spouses, our
- 6:59children, our colleagues, even ourselves.
- 7:03Even if our expectations or our beliefs are not set out loud,
- 7:07they can influence and impact an outcome for somebody.
- 7:11The person that you have those beliefs about is likely to
- 7:14adjust their behavior and meet your expectations, whether
- 7:18they're positive or negative. And this is a big deal because
- 7:22it can make that expectation that you have a reality.
- 7:26And this experiment has, it might have started in the
- 7:28classroom, but it's been repeated in lots of other
- 7:30settings. They've done it in business
- 7:32settings and management and sports psychology and
- 7:34leadership. So this is a very well
- 7:37understood effect in the psychology world.
- 7:41And I think it's very important for us to understand, especially
- 7:45if we filter it through the lens of our own personal impact, not
- 7:49only our impact, but our beliefs and our expectations, our
- 7:53presumptions, our assumptions about people in our lives.
- 7:58This is something that we talk about a lot in the coaching
- 8:00world. We have to be very aware of this
- 8:03in the coaching industry, that the Pygmalion effect influences
- 8:06outcomes and attitudes of clients that you work with.
- 8:10One of the pillars foundational concepts in coaching that I
- 8:14learned at the very beginning is that we view people as being
- 8:17capable, resilient, and whole. That was lesson #1 when I
- 8:22started going through coaching certification that people are
- 8:26resilient, capable and whole. And to assume anything otherwise
- 8:29would be completely short, changing the client in front of
- 8:33you to the point where you really wouldn't be able to help
- 8:35them very well. And this idea rests on the
- 8:38foundation that we are constantly non verbally
- 8:42communicating ideas to clients. And so even if we're not saying
- 8:47something out loud, our beliefs about a person can be non
- 8:51verbally communicated and digested by that person.
- 8:54And then you're having an influence on them, positive or
- 8:56negative. Sometimes you don't want to be
- 8:58having that influence. If you're looking at somebody
- 9:01and thinking of them as broken or needing fixing or needing to
- 9:05be worked on, those are ideas that can cut people at the knees
- 9:08before they even begin their own work.
- 9:11And truthfully, I think we all know this to a certain degree
- 9:14intuitively. I always say people can feel
- 9:17you, people can feel your energy.
- 9:20Whatever you're coming to the table with in terms of emotions
- 9:23and feelings and beliefs and expectations.
- 9:26We have this really astute internal guidance system, our
- 9:30intuition, our knowing that picks up on these things.
- 9:34If you think about it, if you come to a conversation ready to
- 9:38fight, somebody, ready to argue, ready to be in problem energy,
- 9:42that person is going to feel your energy.
- 9:45They will feel it and they're going to start responding to you
- 9:49in a way that is also defensive and ready to battle.
- 9:53You know, have you ever been in that situation where you
- 9:56approach a conversation and you think that you are feeling
- 10:00diplomatic and ready to, you know, be a team and be curious?
- 10:05But really you're kind of pissed and you're going in there
- 10:08defensive and ready to fight. And you tell yourself, no, I'm
- 10:11not going to do that. I'm going to have a good energy
- 10:12with them. I'm going to have a good
- 10:14conversation with them. And then you get there and that
- 10:15person just looks at you and they just are ready to battle.
- 10:19And you're like, what's that person's problem?
- 10:22Often times people can feel you. And so they're going to meet you
- 10:26where they're at. They are going to fulfill your
- 10:29expectations and beliefs about them, whether you want them to
- 10:32or not, positive or negative. And I think about that all the
- 10:35time. I think about how am I going to
- 10:37approach conversations with my teenagers when they get home
- 10:41from school and we have to have a hard conversation?
- 10:43How do I want to have conversations and interactions
- 10:46with my spouse? Do I want to show up ready to
- 10:48fight? No, I want to show up curious.
- 10:51I want to show up willing and open hearted and open minded.
- 10:55How are we showing up for conversations with our managers
- 10:58or our teammates when they've dropped the ball on something?
- 11:01Are we ready to fight? Are we ready to blame them and
- 11:03criticize them and judge them? Or are we coming in curious,
- 11:06wanting to solve the problem? These are all questions that I
- 11:09ask myself so much these days, especially because whether we
- 11:14want to or not, we have an impact.
- 11:17And I think we really have to integrate that idea.
- 11:19Whether we want to or not, we have an impact.
- 11:22People can feel us. The Pygmalion effect says that
- 11:26our expectations of somebody's potential, our expectations of
- 11:31and beliefs about someone will often come to fruition because
- 11:34that person will adjust to those.
- 11:37So with all this information, I think it's really important to
- 11:41ask some questions anytime we are getting ready to interact
- 11:45with somebody and anytime we want to have a positive impact.
- 11:48The first question I can think of is, do I believe that this
- 11:52person is capable and resilient and whole?
- 11:55Do I believe that they have the capacity and the abilities and
- 11:58the skills to solve a problem or rise to the occasion?
- 12:03Do I believe that they can have a growth mindset?
- 12:06If the answer is no, you're going to get a very different
- 12:09effect then if the answer is yes, if you believe that they
- 12:12are capable of change and growth and rising to a situation.
- 12:18The second question I think about all the time is do I
- 12:21believe that this person can make the effort?
- 12:25Do I believe this person wants to solve this problem with me?
- 12:29Do I believe that we can come to a resolution and walk away
- 12:31feeling good about this conversation?
- 12:33If the answer is no, I back up out of that conversation because
- 12:38if I'm going in ready to fight and expecting a loss, that's not
- 12:43going to go well. Most likely I'm going to end up
- 12:45with a loss in that conversation.
- 12:47I won't have a resolution. There might be more animosity,
- 12:50there might be more frustration. And it's all because I went in
- 12:53believing that it was a no, believing that there wasn't
- 12:56going to be a solve and that it wasn't going to go well.
- 13:00And then the third question that I always ask myself is what's
- 13:03the energy that I want to show up with in this space?
- 13:05How can I convey these beliefs that I have about this person in
- 13:10my words and my actions and through my energy and my
- 13:13feelings? If I believe this person is here
- 13:17to work together with me, if I feel like we're going to have a
- 13:19positive interaction, if I feel like we're both going to be more
- 13:22high frequency working together, that's going to have a very
- 13:25specific outcome versus me walking in, believing and
- 13:29showing up with feelings that are low frequency, that are
- 13:33negative, that are conveying pessimistic beliefs about this
- 13:36person in front of me. Very different response and
- 13:39reaction that will end up as a result of that conversation.
- 13:43So if we zoom out and we think about this idea, I think it's
- 13:46just very important to remember that the expectations and the
- 13:50beliefs that we have about the people around us will influence
- 13:53them. Most often these beliefs are non
- 13:57verbal. We don't even have to say them.
- 13:58It's just through our behavior and our feelings and our
- 14:02beliefs. It's not even about the words
- 14:04that we say in this case, we still have influence and impact
- 14:08on their outcomes. Our beliefs in another person's
- 14:12potential will bring that potential to life, for better or
- 14:16worse. And I know that if you're
- 14:18listening to this podcast, you want to be on the side of better
- 14:21and not worse. And because of that, I think
- 14:24it's worth challenging our own beliefs about the people who are
- 14:27in our lives about the way that situations are going to go.
- 14:32I think it's important to be really cognizant and aware and
- 14:36observe what we feel to be true about things before we even step
- 14:40into those situations. You know, I think it's important
- 14:44to be aware of the energy that we bring into a space because
- 14:47that's going to have an influence too.
- 14:50And the Pygmalion effect is just another layer to this influence
- 14:53and impact that we have. And so my challenge to you this
- 14:56week is to think about the people who are closest to you,
- 15:00the people who you spend so much time with, who you have so much
- 15:03love for, and observe what do you believe about them?
- 15:07What do you believe about their potential?
- 15:09What do you think about your teenagers ability to do well at
- 15:14school or make friends or thrive in their life?
- 15:17What do you think about your spouse's ability to go out and
- 15:20and reach for their dreams or go get that job that they've
- 15:23wanted, that promotion. Maybe they want to make a
- 15:26transition in their life and they're feeling like they don't
- 15:28have the courage to do it. What do you believe to be true
- 15:31about their potential? What do you believe to be true
- 15:33about your parents potential or your colleagues?
- 15:38And if you're noticing that it's not all that positive or that
- 15:41helpful, maybe we can reinforce it.
- 15:43Maybe we can shift it a little bit and you can redirect that
- 15:46energy so that the people who are in your sphere can feel your
- 15:50positive impact in a totally different way, can feel the
- 15:53Pygmalion effect in a way that influences their ability to
- 15:57bring that potential to life. I think that would be so badass.
- 16:00It would change the world if we absolutely believed in people in
- 16:04the way that we could. So I hope this helps.
- 16:07I hope this spurs on some insights and creates some change
- 16:10with the ability that you have to impact the people who are
- 16:13closest in your sphere. Thank you for listening as
- 16:16always, and thank you for being ready to impact.
- 16:20Thanks for listening to Impact. Ready, I hope.
- 16:22Today's episode inspired you to own your impact and recognize
- 16:26that you. Are powerful.
- 16:27By elevating our energy and awareness, we can create
- 16:30exponential change in this life. If you enjoyed today's insights,
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- 16:37I truly. Appreciate you.
- 16:38Thanks again for being here.