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MASSIVE WEEK: 49ers vs Colts reaction + Preparing for the Bears · Guy Football Focus with Guy Haberman

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[SPEAKER_01]: here we go what a huge week back home coming up on the show today going through the colds game and talking about the bears game producer Connor stops by but first I got to tell you what the nighters back home Sunday night the rain is gonna clear the skies will be blue I mean they'll be dark because the night game but it's a perfect time you get to leave our stadium.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And let's get on with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The day before the day before Christmas, the 49ers ended week, the end of the week and started the week with a football game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they are in the middle of the new cycle right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It definitely feels that way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think it would feel this way when I recorded a
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[SPEAKER_01]: 3, 4, D, A, M, for those you didn't watch the YouTube only video, if you just the pod, if you're a podcast listener, we landed at 330 back from Indianapolis, there are a 315 at SFO because I don't think you'd land at Santa Clara at that time, or Santa Jose, and then they bust the team down to Levi's, but I hop off and they have a separate little van that takes anybody that wants to go to the Uber area at SFO.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I jumped on that fan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was getting a Uber from the roof deck fifth floor of the SFO parking garage at about four AM 350 AM got home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't really sleep much on the plane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You should see the T rock.
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[SPEAKER_01]: film study that goes on at, you know, whatever time got ungodly time it is on the plane.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That man just stuffed into a seat, just grind and tape.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, I really, I got to try and convince him to let me do a video on his note taking because it's untruley, unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tim Ryan that can be a radio analyst.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd mentioned on Leshow by the way,
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[SPEAKER_01]: that I was going to talk to Greg today, but that schedule didn't work out, so we'll do we'll do pop another day, but pop of returns to radio coming up this weekend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Connor just finished posting his piece over at his sub stack, Joko show, the good, the bad of Monday night football and the ugly from a nice Monday night game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll get to that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're just going through the playoff machine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty incredible, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You win two games and you're the one seed and feels like everybody has kind of picked up nationally on
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[SPEAKER_01]: the potential history here, which is that no team has ever hosted the Super Bowl and hosted every game of the playoff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Rams and Bucks hosted and won the Super Bowl.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It never happened until 21, and then it's happened twice in the last six years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So then I have a chance to do it, but it was like, did they have a chance?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said what we talked about in a month ago,
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[SPEAKER_01]: As we discussed the other day, what stands in your way now is the bears in the sea hawks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You undeniably have a chance if you go into the playoffs as the one seed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Chicago's gonna be tough, but the indie experience was amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I didn't say this this morning, but I was thinking about it because I came away with just such an incredible, just in awe of Philip Rivers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And as I was thinking more about it and watching some of the highlights,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Brock kind of look like Philip like they fill I was in all a fill up and Brock played the same game with him that was different in the sense that Philips up there with Lana squim is just export Lizzie export Lizzie and all that stuff which was cool to hear the whole game but you know Brock had a Brock had a really special game obviously by the stats but I but what I'm talking about is more just like the feel of it like it felt so under control so in control not under control but in control
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, that, you know, that, that made for a special game, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So before actually before Connor even gets to speak, can we, can we start with a highlight?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like I need to address this, this, this scandal straight away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Face the people.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't, yeah, I need to face the music here because they spent a lot of time on the show grading other people's performances.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So D winners has a pick six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There is a lot of you may know this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a great YouTube channel, Gerald Contreras.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Does this incredible?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He puts the video in the audio of the radio call together with additional graphics and sound effects.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's really awesome.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I enjoy it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to lie and say, I don't listen to the clip.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I do, I love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I went back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where this is from.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you missed it, here is D Winner's pick six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm playing this to answer the question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 25 or 30.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here we go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, if you missed it, it was, how to go like, four, he's at a 40, the 25, 30.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's what I just said.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's going the other way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wonders to the 40, that's 25, 30.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tim Ryan, Tim Ryan goes, deal winners is so fast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He went from the 40 to the 25, and then to the 30 of the other side of the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, anyway, okay, hi Connor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How's it going?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you catch that in real time?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, you know it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like, oh, God.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, as I'm, as it's coming out of my mouth, I'm trying to, you can go, I like, it's like, it's 25, but it's almost 35, because I'm like, as it's halfway out, I'm trying to say 35.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's still a phenomenal call and a phenomenal about that, but well, the, uh, it was an awesome thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I noticed the thing I noticed about that clip is Brock at first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He clapped after a moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he wanted to score again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He looked a little like, why is do you understand this back?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I've never six.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's a, you know, he kind of, he was looking a little bit stern.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was so locked in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was annoyed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He five touchdowns nearly 300 yards and I mean, he was just, it was poetic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, it was the greatest show on, on turf and nine reversion, but shout out to the offense aligned.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They broke had all day to throw and it was just picking apart the Colts defense who played tough against Seattle last week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought that my guess is that Brock, you know, Brock had just thrown a pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm guessing part of it was Brock going like, yeah, was that, you know, we're kind of reacting to that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He had just thrown a pick and then D like picks him up and like, all right, like, thank you, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you had this in your article on Substack, which is the next gen stats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What is this?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so, you know, the Shannon offense, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like with Jimmy G, it was a lot of in-breaking routes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It still is, and Jimmy G would get caught over the middle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, perdi, and particularly on Monday night, was throwing a lot of outrouts and, you know, John Jennings wide open on an outrout, and he almost hit kiddo on another touchdown up the sideline, but five other quarterbacks to throw four touchdown passes on out-breaking routes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen to these names, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Tom Brady, Dak Prescott and Josh Allen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's some pretty good company to be a part of for Brock Perti.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Slingon all over the field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The one up the middle was the deepest one to the Marcus Robinson, which was a dot post route.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: really well done and he I mean he had zip he was timing was perfect and it was truly like watching it was poetic to watch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He created like the touchdown to kiddo where he's running right and running right and running right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: looking like Montana and then throw us back across his body to the George.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has, he has sneakily completed several balls the last two weeks that you're like, I don't know if you should throw that back across your body and he's done it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then twice in the last two weeks, he's thrown like a 50 50 scene ball to Kittle that Kittle has made the catch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kittle did it early in the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the trust for Kittle, what Kittle's, I hope the
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[SPEAKER_01]: not just for the obvious reasons, but like we're watching a guy play at his peak.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like George is at his peak right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty awesome to watch kiddo play right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been so good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: On that point, next gen stats, also had another tweet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Brock Perty has a 144.6 passer rating when targeting George Kittle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pious quarterback receiver duo in the last five seasons.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kittle is is playing for now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he, he's, you know, making the plays, jump balls.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a huge frame.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, part of me thinks Brock,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he kind of know, I mean, he has to make plays, but he's also throwing the ball away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems everything sort of clicking in the right way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's making the right plays the right forcing, but he's not over forcing it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's it's good right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's staying this zone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I did think like the I thought back to what you at we were talking about the other day.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this Brock is their pressure and Brock to step it up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the answer is yes, but he just has to
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[SPEAKER_01]: play with it himself, do, be him, you know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if, and that will be good enough, you know, like the like courage, and just be yourself, man, that's all you can be, that's good enough.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It really is true because that good enough is really, because he's so efficient, he creates enough, you know, and he does it, he creates with his legs versus like, I think some guys who, like Josh Allen creates with his legs, but to me it's really with, it's his arm that can create some of the extra special stuff because of how strong it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Brock, like the touchdown, the kiddle where Brock is rolling, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: To be like, Brock is pulling, he is rolling to pull, fit to physically pull defenders and then create the space, enough space for his arm, which was a perfect throw to George.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the throw, the Jennings touchdown throw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Me too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw a Mac if he was talking because he must have been standing in that corner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I thought it was going out of bounds.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I also thought it was going, I did not think John was going to get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let alone get it without having to jump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It might have been the same corner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The conscious row, the best, when the best rows of all night that didn't count, that was the other side of the field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was going right, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That row was so good too, and a great catch as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think Tony Holmes, hope it's a super bowl again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I go the other way, Guy, I do think Brock has to step up and did step up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't plan at the same level, but I do think we saw tonight, like there was an extra gear it seemed to to Brock's play and he was so dialed in outside that one, you know, high ball to Kendrick board, which I do think he had to get over the line back there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's one like, since we love to, we, we, we nitpick ourselves so we can nitpick others.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And with a two scored lead, the only way they're getting back in that game is if you throw, if you turn the ball over.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only chance, and then all of a sudden it's like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: now they got a shot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think right after that was the the Looter Phantom P.I.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Call 2.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so well right after that pick is the Deep Winner's pick six.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that what you made?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that was ever the end of the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it was for us good as the offense played.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The game was it was a game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You might be right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, well, they had a they had a rivers hit a deep ball like a sideline to the right to pierce to pierce.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who I thought like early in the game is pierce going to have
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the other thing that has to be pointed out, I saw as a just, that was solvers rivers, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was solvers stichon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was Shanna Hanverse, Luena Romo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Troy Acumen, I didn't see this, but somebody told me on the pre game on Monday night said, if he could hire any coach, the NFL would be Kyle Shanna Hanne.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've said this over the years at different opportunities, times when it's bad, times when it's good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We could debate where a guy ranks, but the idea that he's like, this is a pressure year or year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This year you got to prove it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like this guy, if this was a year to prove something, he's proven a couch in a hand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If this was a year to prove something, he's proven it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's not just with what you do during the year, it's decisions
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[SPEAKER_01]: and the hiring of brand boy with coaches, and the hiring of brand boy or first of all, bringing solaback, think about all the offensive coaches Shanahan has lost over the years and this thing just keeps humming.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a credit to him, and it's a credit to like he keeps hiring good assistance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But much like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: There were, you know, there's about two games where they, I don't want to say one the game with a Skymore kick return or, but, you know, when they can steal a possession by basically like doubling up, going ahead again because of special teams, when they can play from in front.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so when Jair Brown forced the fumble,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's, whatever, colds go up seven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, matters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Tite seven seven, the kick to the colds and it's like, well, the colds are about to go up 14 seven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But when they can get the special teams play like that and create, there's so much better scoring touchdowns and the reds on this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that like the special teams thing is just unbelievable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's like, you know, in golf, when you have your putting works, you drive works, but your irons don't work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's always one part of the game that doesn't work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the last few season for Miller, for the Niners, it's been like offense defense, special teams was really bad putting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, now it's like offense is great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Defense is really bad irons, but your putting is coming through with a special team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So special teams is the putting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Special teams is the putting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're they're draining some for something that is breakers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Offense driver for show just because it's more fun like you did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, deep down the field, but number two in EPA per plane special teams We share behind Seattle and the sky more time and time again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're starting at the 37th of the 40 and Brian Robinson back there like he's been such a good addition And then remember who defended sky more early in the year this guy right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why is he third catching it at the nine like come on man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's sunny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's never been here before
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[SPEAKER_00]: More stat I had his back and the more stat is is not another zero for more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Great hold Special shout out special teams that is I mean, I can't believe the Niners we're talking special teams as a number two Unit yeah, so but I mean that leads to the question right if we go back to kind of the next gen stat stuff
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[SPEAKER_01]: not the next-gen stats.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If we go back to the playoff simulator, where it does feel like the five-seat is probably, I can't get my hands straight, the five-seat is probably not an option, you would need the ramps to lose.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's possible but not likely, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're really looking at either the one-seed or the six-seed, maybe the seven, maybe the seven, but like you beat
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[SPEAKER_01]: LAs the five, you're the six point of filly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's week 18, let's say you lose to the bears, but beat the seahawks and Seattle's then the one seed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, yeah, Seattle's the one, lose to the bears, you're probably resting guys week 18.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Seattle's then the one seed, the 49ers of the six and LAs the five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In the scenario where you lose both games,
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[SPEAKER_01]: than you are the six eight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's really not, you know, there's not a lot of reason if you lose to Chicago to play, Trent, to play, kiddo, maybe even to play Brock.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Pure Soul, you know, week 18.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If, yeah, and if the bears do win out, I think they would have the typewriter over the sea hawks, so they would have the number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't going through other scenarios.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's, there's a lot of different ways to do it, but I think the most realistic, I mean, I didn't, I didn't, let's see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't run all this, but it looks like the bear, the bear's chest winning out isn't enough based on this thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, but I had the miners beating this the sea hawks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I got it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, at that point, would you want to go to Philly?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Would you want to go to Seattle?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't feel it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're not really, you're not going to Seattle, and you're not going to the NFC south.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, how are you going to go to, what's the scenario where you go to Seattle?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You go to Seattle by, you lose the next two games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I've got him losing the next two, and then the bears are the ones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She addles the two, green base, the seven, and then I have to have the six plant filly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, we could play with this all the time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think, I mean, I guess if you're the one of the six is the point here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think what you were sort of hoping for, obviously, the night is to win, but outside of that, it would be the Eagles lose to the bill.
18:56
[SPEAKER_00]: So they have to play their starters in week 18 against commanders.
18:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Got it.
18:59
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a little wins.
19:00
[SPEAKER_00]: The little wins within the margins.
19:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you don't want them coming off another, you know, week of rest against the 49er.
19:06
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I don't know.
19:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're saying Philly loses.
19:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a good call.
19:11
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, and then if they were to win, they're the three seed week 18, if they, but they're still the, we're not doing all the scenarios here.
19:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is, yeah, uh, it kind of feels like you're going to Philly or your hosting.
19:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're hosting, did, did you get the feeling last night?
19:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I did not watch last night's stuff.
19:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I did see clips today.
19:33
[SPEAKER_01]: There's been some of this like, you know, the nation's not paying attention to the 49ers, which I haven't, I haven't really thought about whether that's true or not.
19:41
[SPEAKER_01]: It does feel like you play in a prime time game, everyone's paying attention, you feel like everyone's talking about them now.
19:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously, you know, you got another Sunday night game, so you win that game and everyone's really talking about you.
19:52
[SPEAKER_01]: But did you get the feeling watching last night?
19:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, were they getting, were they being treated like a surprise
20:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I, which is fine, like, I'm not, this is not like me doing the like no one believed, but we were the ones to talk about like, I don't give it, I don't care about that.
20:06
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think, I think the chatter because the offense was so good, it ramped up, they're like, oh, wow, and fans, you know, latch on to offensive plays, coming off the Thursday night game that was so electric with Seattle and in LA, that had all the talk.
20:20
[SPEAKER_00]: And there were three teams in the NFC, so like last year at the NFC north where it's the Vikings and the Packers.
20:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And the lions this year, you know, the Ninus have been that 13 that sort of got forgotten about, but I don't know.
20:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I would rather, right, one of the Ninus rather, rather be under the radar going into, you know, this stretch run.
20:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure.
20:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I guess, like, but you're not going to be like to me, like, you're not the jags under the right, you know, like Liam cones are like no one thinks we can win like, yeah, that you're the jags.
20:49
[SPEAKER_01]: You are absolutely right.
20:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody believed in you 100% including me.
20:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Like when the Ninus like quantum coach sneak up on people.
20:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if we went, looked at the Super Bowl as the beginning of the year, now they had injuries and all that.
21:00
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I don't know.
21:04
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't really interest me as like, let's get let's be offended by a thing.
21:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just kind of curious how they looked other people who don't, who maybe don't watch him every week.
21:16
[SPEAKER_01]: how Brock looks to people who don't watch him every week, you know, well, that's the, that's the wild card.
21:20
[SPEAKER_00]: It's Brock, Brock is so polarizing for whatever reason.
21:23
[SPEAKER_00]: And so now the Brock defenders in the nine or fans are like, look, look who he is.
21:27
[SPEAKER_00]: We've even, we've known this guy's there.
21:29
[SPEAKER_00]: We know this player has five touchdowns in him, or at least did it one time in college.
21:35
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I think that got some, some attention from respect on his name.
21:39
[SPEAKER_01]: That was a big poll, but you, you looked it up.
21:41
[SPEAKER_01]: He's never had five touchdowns on a win.
21:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I do think that's the other thing like we're talking about you wrote about this in your ugly, the defense, which did some Ben, but don't break stuff, but you know, seeding is one thing.
21:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I can you, you're just going to have to outscore everybody, which kind of feels like if you're at home, especially you can, right, with McAfrey, if to me, if Pierce all's healthy and kiddles healthy and you get a week off,
22:11
[SPEAKER_01]: that I do think you can overcome some of your struggles on defense.
22:13
[SPEAKER_01]: The good news is, if you end up if, you know, if you are, this offense can keep you in a game long enough for solid, I have a chance to make a couple of calls that make a difference or make a couple of adjustments that make a difference.
22:28
[SPEAKER_01]: And the other one, the kid will say this post game.
22:34
[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember, I talked about it that we get in here because Tim Ryan told me, it's like, Gus Bradley is incredible.
22:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's not just solids, Gus, who, you know, if Salah were to get a head coaching job which we've gone back and forth on that, Gus makes slide in.
22:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but people love that.
22:53
[SPEAKER_01]: People love that guy.
22:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Love that guy around the organization.
22:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's a good dude.
22:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been a little bit with Nude and I like he's a really cool guy.
23:02
[SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned it, revenge game for, for Gus Bradley from, right, with the bolts, but I saw that, yeah, he needs to dial up.
23:10
[SPEAKER_00]: It seems to be a play or two.
23:12
[SPEAKER_00]: The ball needs to bounce their way and because the defense, I mean, it's hard to watch.
23:18
[SPEAKER_00]: But there's something about, like, Philip River is seem to just stand there and have a monologue before every single one, every single snap.
23:26
[SPEAKER_00]: How cool is that?
23:27
[SPEAKER_00]: throwback is like mad and audibles, but there's like, I don't know if this is a development quarterback development where they don't, you don't do checks anymore at the line of skirmish, or if this is just a total throwback, or Phil has so many years of experience, but he was picking apart the solid scheme and with those crossing routes and got just enough, you know, you could 12 yards got 13, he did seven, got a they they did just enough, but ultimately the defense made a couple plays on the stretch.
23:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like the guy who's at, you know, that's where River's Stafford excuse me.
23:59
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where like Stafford's got the know how and the better arm, right?
24:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if River's could throw it 30 yards They took the football just to run that ball to pitman and they had it and to open the game and rivers just you can't throw it there that far, you know?
24:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you couldn't get it there
24:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Another point on the defense playing with the offense, the 49ers offense needs to play defense.
24:19
[SPEAKER_00]: So they need to have long drives and make it one to one dimensional because Jonathan Taylor was an afterthought.
24:25
[SPEAKER_00]: And for whatever reason they they came out and chucked it.
24:28
[SPEAKER_00]: And well Taylor.
24:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, he was 2.9.
24:32
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what he's been like,
24:34
[SPEAKER_01]: In the four previous games in their losing streak, it was like three point four, which before he was over six yards of carry, yeah, you know, and I think part of that is Daniel, they run so much like zone read with Daniel Jones, it makes it.
24:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it makes you really hard.
24:50
[SPEAKER_00]: So, and that could have been solid presenting looks, I don't know the analytics that much of the X is a nose, but the.
25:00
[SPEAKER_00]: they forever they stopped Taylor they made it a passing game and the 49ers had the advantage there yeah so big time and that's where playing with the lead helps too but they tried to keep front of the ball they just couldn't expose I think there's explosives to be had on the inner defense and rivers can't throw it far enough to expose it yeah you know the tightness did they did it came more did yeah Kailabolium's that's gonna be a challenge oh he has the arm he has the plenic and ability for that
25:29
[SPEAKER_01]: What an awesome game.
25:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Just first of all, the logos, right?
25:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Bears, Niners, Sun and I football.
25:34
[SPEAKER_01]: That in and of itself.
25:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you add to it, Caleb.
25:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I would assume as Roma Dunes, they're going to be back this week.
25:40
[SPEAKER_01]: They were down a couple of receivers.
25:42
[SPEAKER_00]: So your burdens back this week?
25:43
[SPEAKER_01]: This is where burdened.
25:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see, the latest from the Chicago Tribune.
25:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Ben Johnson plays at Roma Dunes.
25:49
[SPEAKER_01]: They will be back this year.
25:51
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe that means he's not back this week.
25:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I've indived into this game yet.
25:54
[SPEAKER_01]: But on track to help us this season,
25:58
[SPEAKER_01]: He's missed the last three.
25:59
[SPEAKER_01]: That does not feel like he's about to play Sunday night.
26:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll put you know, you played Koi this early in the year.
26:04
[SPEAKER_00]: One thing about Sunday's game as of now, the weather forecast is sunny and little wind and no rain with the atmospheric river coming to California to the west coast.
26:16
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to rain a little bit this week, but Saturday and Sunday look to be clear.
26:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's hope it stays that way.
26:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is great if you're going to be the person doing
26:29
[SPEAKER_01]: it's not great like it doesn't vote well for the night is practice it's still means the night is a practicing in the rain this week probably right which is not great that would not be the calshanna hands preference practice in the rain yeah uh but it does maybe it prepares you somehow for yeah i want to what we get to look like or what what's filled up you will look like if you're there it's just such a difference between having the ones who just being at home oh my god it's easy
26:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And then maybe, you know, then the other thing is you give yourself a little better chance to maybe have Fred Warner make it back, but, right, the point, right into the year, maybe.
27:03
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Kyle Shanahan's challenge, and the non-challenge, is there a challenge?
27:12
[SPEAKER_00]: There's always been a challenge problem with Kyle Shanahan.
27:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I did not think that, I think you probably watching on TV.
27:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Initially, first look, I was like, oh, Michael Pittman was not, I don't think he got that.
27:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the second look, I think he ate got that.
27:28
[SPEAKER_01]: The conscious one, so I understand wanting to, so first of all, the challenge he did make, I thought, clearly a bad challenge.
27:39
[SPEAKER_01]: The one he didn't challenge, the conscious play,
27:43
[SPEAKER_01]: It hurts for a variety of reasons.
27:46
[SPEAKER_01]: One of it is like, it would have been this incredible play for Jake Tanjas would Jake Tanjas have had the two best touchdown catches of the year, the Seattle Game Winner.
27:55
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
27:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And then this one, right?
27:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So absolutely would have been an amazing, an amazing play.
28:03
[SPEAKER_01]: So at that point in the game, it's 3427 with like five minutes left, okay?
28:13
[SPEAKER_01]: If you challenge it and lose it, you don't have no more timeouts.
28:19
[SPEAKER_00]: Do they only have one at that point?
28:21
[SPEAKER_01]: One time I left.
28:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
28:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they needed to use.
28:24
[SPEAKER_01]: They had the challenge time out.
28:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Then they used a timeout because Brock couldn't hear on the headset.
28:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And they had to change out tiles, comms, pat.
28:34
[SPEAKER_01]: They had to use a timeout there.
28:36
[SPEAKER_01]: So you can still, if you don't get the touch out on third down, which they ended up doing, you can still kick the field goal and make it a 10 point game.
28:45
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so I'm wondering, like if that's a fourth down play, you challenge it, obviously.
28:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe even if it's a third down play, you challenge it.
28:55
[SPEAKER_01]: A second down play, like, okay, we can score on this next one.
28:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And if we don't, we can kick the field goal, make it 10.
29:01
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, I, I, I guess I understood it.
29:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, especially like I was like, did he, I think he got the toe down and I'm pretty sure he survived the ground and completed the process of the catch.
29:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think this is a touchdown.
29:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm pretty sure it's a touchdown.
29:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I unless issue with not challenging that that I did with challenging the pitman.
29:19
[SPEAKER_00]: And they were two-year point.
29:22
[SPEAKER_00]: They were scoring at Will in the Red Zone.
29:24
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, yeah, I think Shannon's like, we'll just get it right here, or, you know, they were in a groove.
29:30
[SPEAKER_00]: So, it didn't matter in the end, but I think it's just like a overall Shannon hand throughout the year as it feels like he just misses on challenges.
29:40
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if we remember that the Eagles,
29:43
[SPEAKER_00]: 2022 NFC championship game the Devante Smith catch they ran up the line butterfly effect.
29:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know That's right.
29:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's right But that was a tough one too.
29:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey by the way in the in the broadcast booth.
29:59
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have the live ESPN game going on a TV?
30:03
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
30:03
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just you know, it's a it's a little delayed.
30:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah So like when Piniero I struggle with field goes man when Piniero kicked the field goal
30:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I went to the monitor to see if it was online.
30:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you look back, like, I think it's far enough.
30:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I looked to see if I think it's far enough.
30:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Then I go to the monitor to see if it's online.
30:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it, I heard, as I'm turning my head to look at the monitor, I hear, like, bang!
30:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, thankfully Tim goes, oh, and I'm like, oh, he missed it.
30:30
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so it's like a second or two delayed, but it's in there.
30:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Some booths are different.
30:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Some it's a little more delayed.
30:36
[SPEAKER_01]: But you can, so like, that's where we're looking at replays is on there.
30:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, like it's so fire, Levi's, we're looking at,
30:42
[SPEAKER_01]: The big 4k board.
30:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.
30:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Levi's has a big board big boards for video so five is a big board for video, but if that's your question.
30:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.
30:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was.
30:52
[SPEAKER_01]: The other thing I wanted.
30:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, go ahead.
30:54
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, Penaro.
30:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's, yeah.
30:56
[SPEAKER_00]: That was maybe the best miskick of the Niners.
30:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so good.
31:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I had to say later, he's perfect from inside of 64.
31:02
[SPEAKER_01]: But that thing was so close.
31:04
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my gosh.
31:05
[SPEAKER_00]: One turn away.
31:06
[SPEAKER_00]: What are you going to say?
31:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say how much, how much is Trent Williams costs next year since he's coming back?
31:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
31:13
[SPEAKER_00]: He was talking to SVP.
31:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going anywhere anytime soon.
31:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's on the books right now for this is
31:22
[SPEAKER_01]: That's getting, he's getting a new contract, right?
31:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
31:27
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's playing well.
31:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's coming into form down the stretch.
31:30
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that's a, I guess that's a future of Niners problem.
31:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a great problem to have.
31:38
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the best left knuckles, but doesn't want to leave.
31:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Great, because you don't have this replacement.
31:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So thank God, he doesn't want to leave.
31:43
[SPEAKER_00]: And McKibitz, McKibitz is playing well.
31:46
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah.
31:47
[SPEAKER_00]: Right tackle.
31:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
31:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Good sneaky, like that defensive lines, good.
31:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I could brendles play in a well.
31:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought they played well yesterday, to your point.
31:56
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the strip sack was Leatu Latu beating Luke Ferrell, right?
32:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And I said on that play, like, oh, Ferrell's behind Perti to catch the ball and team Ryan goes, you know why he's back there?
32:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause he's chasing Leatu Latu.
32:13
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway.
32:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the line held up.
32:17
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, offensive.
32:19
[SPEAKER_00]: I just so fun.
32:20
[SPEAKER_00]: That was such a fun game to watch.
32:22
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Connor Collins is off to the Collins.
32:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I guess not the Collins family, Chris is party.
32:26
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the, the Julianne Chris is party.
32:27
[SPEAKER_01]: The Julianne family, Chris is party.
32:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So happy America's was to the Julianne's and the Collins is thanks for jumping on here, Connor to you.
32:35
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32:39
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32:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And happy holiday, America's was to everybody.
32:46
[SPEAKER_01]: This will probably be the last show before the game on Sunday.
32:50
[SPEAKER_01]: given the holiday week.
32:52
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see things happen who knows.
32:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm home, but that'll be the plan and then Greg Popper returns to the radio booth on Sunday.
32:58
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll be hanging out on the sidelines.
33:00
[SPEAKER_01]: So if it's not raining, I'll be very happy about that and I know some people, somebody suggested I do reports that are just on smelling salts from the sidelines on Sunday.
33:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw that in the comments.
33:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Bring your own.
33:12
[SPEAKER_00]: Be best friends with George Kittle.
33:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, hopefully George's plan.
33:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
33:20
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, it's going to be a great game.
33:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Can't wait to watch it.
33:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Big week, I mean, it's incredible work.
33:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Like what a special end of the season, the 49ers have created.
33:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Get on everything that's gone wrong.
33:30
[SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty awesome.
33:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
33:32
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, y'all.
33:32
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for hanging everybody.
33:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, well, anything else?
33:34
[SPEAKER_00]: No, go Niners, Happy Holidays.
33:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And let's get a win.
33:38
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
33:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's, let's weave.
33:41
[SPEAKER_00]: We and us.
33:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Fans are part two.
33:43
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
33:44
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, later, buddy.