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Hey Ho, The WHO Have Got To GO With James Roguski · UK Column Radio

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Hello, and welcome to another UK column interview. My name's Debbie Evans,
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and well the World Health Organization who have got too much power? Now?
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Last weekend, many of us did stay up through the night to watch as
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the World Health Assembly, the seventy seventh World Health Assembly held in Geneva,
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voted to amend the international Health Regulations. But what about the pandemic Preparedness treaty
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that we've all been waiting for, because we've all been talking about that a
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lot, haven't we? And what can we expect from the weekend's goings on?
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Maybe WHO, the Who have done us a bit of a favor,
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But I bought our wonderful expert je Ruguski, who has. I don't think
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James ever sleeps, to be honest, because he seems to watch every single
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session of the WHO. He stays up all night to watch so that he
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can report on the latest goings on. And I can tell our viewers and
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listeners that, as I introduced James, it's very early in the morning in
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California. So James, thank you so much for going to join us after
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all the shenanigans last weekend. Welcome back to UK column. Well, you
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know thanks for having me, and you know I pronounced that Shanan again because
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you know, they're doing the same thing they've done before, and they're doing
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it all over again. I feel that we the collective, we you know,
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the people who have been pushing back against the who and you know,
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global tyranny and fighting for our health freedom, we got our butts work.
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And it's astonishing how the vast majority of the alternative media is celebrating some sort
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of victory. So thank you for having me on, and let's get real
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with you know, what actually happened. I will touch on what you said.
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There is a silver lining in this and so you know there is reason
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to go forward with hope and energy. You know, now is the time
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to push harder, not Now is not the time to claim victory and sit
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back and go, oh, you know, look at what we did.
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We got our butts work. Yeah, we absolutely did. And there's been
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I think the devil's in the detail when it comes to what we listen to
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and the documents as well, and I want to talk to you about those.
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One thing that did strike me very hard, James, was that whilst
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we were all looking for this pandemic, preparedness treaty, and it never happened.
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Seemed that some of the things that were planned for the Pandemic Preparedness Treaty
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have seemed to slither their way in to the international health regulations. And you've
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been picking up a lot on the documents, and you've been picking up a
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lot on the wordedge. And I know that you've you've said that they are
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very very cleverly worded, almost spellcraft if you like. But one new definition
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that concerns me a lot, and I'd like you to just elaborate a little
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bit, if you could, is pandemic emergency. What is the definition of
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a pandemic emergency? Let me touch on one of the things that you said,
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you know a moment ago. Yes, you know, some of the
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items that we're talking about in the treaty, you know, maybe have seemed
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to sneak in here. But the real problem has been for the last year,
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all of this information has been jumbled in people's mind, and the expectations
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of what these documents were going to be versus what was actually being discussed in
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them has been completely and totally confused. Now, you said the devils in
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the details, that I agree with you, But the angels bring the awareness
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and the answers to the questions that are raised by these demons that are getting
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everybody confused. So the difference between what is in the treaty and what is
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in the amendments starts with the fact that number one, the silver lining is
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that they have been forced or you know, the universe has conspired to make
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it be that they got half of the two agreements that they were looking for,
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and so they wanted to get them both at the same time. But
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because one of them, now the cards have been laid on the table for
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people who have eyes to see. If you read the documents and understand what
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really happened, then you'll know what they're trying to do with the second one,
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the Pandemic Treaty. So, for clarity's sake, on Saturday night that
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you mentioned, they did adopt the International Health Regulation Amendments, and that document
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is readily available. I encourage everyone to read it. I like to give
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you a guide as to what to look for. But the treaty did not
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get adopted. They just didn't have time. But there's a lot of things
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that happened even before the Assembly that makes me believe that they are on cruise
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control right now because a lot of the stumbling blocks have been settled, and
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they're shooting to continue the negotiation starting in July on the treaty, agreement,
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framework, convention, whatever people want to call it, and may very well
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put a bookend to the special session that started all of this in December of
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twenty twenty one, and they're shooting for a special session later this year to
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conclude the treaty. Now, you asked me very specifically about the definition of
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a pandemic emergency. Well, in the two thousand and five version of the
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IHR, they have something called a public Health Emergency of International Concern e h
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e i C or FATE. Well, the pandemic emergency I call it a
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super fake because you know, if you can just make up, you know,
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a reason to call an emergency, you know, like teddros did with
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money pox, which is you know, even though his review committee or advisory
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committee said no, it's really not an emergency, that doesn't matter. He
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has always had since he's been in office and since two thousand and five.
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The ability to declare an emergency, whether or not it's truly an emergency,
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is subject to question, and so the pandemic emergency that they have defined in
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here. Let me just read it if you don't mind, because you know,
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nothing like putting it out there, and you know people can read it
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for themselves. It means a public health emergency of international concern that is caused
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by a communicable disease. So a lot of people have been fear mongering.
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Oh tendrists can declare, you know, climate change or gun violence, or
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you know whatever other thing. Well, it does have to be a communicapal
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disease. And there's four points. It has or is at high risk of
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having wide geographical spread to and within multiple states. Well what's the definition of
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why I don't know. Number two is exceeding or is it high risk of
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exceeding the capacity of health systems to respond in the countries? Well, you
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know how well managed is your health system. Three is causing or is at
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high risk of causing substantial social and or economic disruption, including disruption to international
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traffic and trade. Well, most of that was caused by the government policies.
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And number four requires rapid, equitable, and enhanced, coordinated international action
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with whole of government and whole of society approaches. Now you may think that
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that's really specific. But I think that's pretty vague, and it pretty much
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opens the door to the declaration of a pandemic emergency. But I want to
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get everybody clear, right. So many people have been saying, oh,
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Tedris is going to be in control of your healthcare system and tell your government
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what to do, and it's an attack on national sovereignty and the freedom to
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choose your drugs and your doctorate. No, this is just a little tiny
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bit more of the same hypnosis and witchcraft and sorcery in the United States in
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our law. On the very last day of the Obama administration, the last
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full day January nineteenth, twenty seventeen, the CDC put in regulations into the
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federal Register that gave criteria for our health minister, the Secretary of Health and
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Human Services now Javier Baserra, to declare a public health emergency in the United
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States. Well, three of the things that our secretary can cite to declare
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it emergency is based on well Tedro said soup. And so this isn't you
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know, a power structure where Teders will say you must do this. It's
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in enabling and this is just another word another piece of trickery, another deception,
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and be afraid, be very afraid. You know, the Director General
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of the who declared this to be a pandemic emergency. Sure, show me
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the proof how many people died. That's that's not a requirement here. This
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is just adding to the ability to deceive. James have as I'm listening to
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this, you know, and I'm thinking, yeah, this is this is
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the ability to deceive and to disrupt as well. This is a big This
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is all about disruption. And it seems to me that the who are being
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enabled to make a policy, if you like, or to declare something in
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order for governments to disrupt their nations. So it's like, well, are
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we saying that the who essentially or who who who empowers the who who enables
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the who are more powerful than our own governments because they're able to put in
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disruptive policies that are all fake. And what kind of recourse do member states
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and countries have to push back? Can they say no, Ted Ross,
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we're not seeing this in our country and so therefore we're not going to implement
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it, or can we sit down and have a debate about it, to
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talk about it, to swarp evidence and ideas before we all have to go
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into some kind of lockdown or go into a national global policy. Is there
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any pushback? Well, you know, this is where the psychological operation that's
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been going on within the alternative media and the health freedom movement for the last
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year went off track almost a year and a half, certainly more than a
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year ago o the misunderstanding of who's driving them and where it's headed. Let
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me redirect your attention to some very interesting things in the amendments that were published,
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because in their documentation, their nomenclature is that, well, you know,
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here's the entire document, here's the two thousand and five amended version,
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and everything in bold is supposed to be new amendments. So you should be
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able to look through the document and look for the things that are bold,
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and you go, oh, well, that's what they changed. But interestingly
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enough, I've found a number of paragraphs in an full article that were not
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put in bold. And so the core of this I learned in college.
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I had a job reshelving books in the library. When people return the book,
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you put it back on the shelf. The best way to hide a
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book is to put it on the wrong place on the shelf in the library
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you forever to find it. The best place to hide the truth is right
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in plain sight where everybody's going to see it. But people don't read the
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documents. So I want to pull everyone's attention to Article forty four BIS,
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just to add for people that are watching and listening that the little article that's
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going to be beneath this interview will have a direct link to the paperwork that
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James is referring to, so you'll be able to go straight to all of
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the links in the article beneath. A couple of months ago, I published
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an article entitled red Hearings, and I tried to get people to realize this
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has never been the who attempting to take control, override your national sovereignty and
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tell your health, you know whatever organizations. Oh, you've got to do
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lockdowns and mandates and all that sort of stuff. They even put it in
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the treaty in article twenty four. It was paragraph three, then they moved
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it to paragraph two. This is not about mandates and lockdowns and forced jabs
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or mask wearing or any of that stuff. This is so much simpler.
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It's so simple. People haven't been able to see it. It's all about
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the money. They have said over and over and over, equity equity,
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equity, equity, equity, and so in this document, what they settled
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in on was Article forty four bis, the Coordinating Financial Mechanism, first paragraph
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A coordinating financial mechanism. The mechanism is hereby established. The purpose of these
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negotiations was to settle a trade dispute. It was not brought by the WHO
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to try to take over your life and tell you what to do. Your
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local officials are entirely capable of overstepping their authority and abusing you at their leisure.
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And that's what happened over the last four and a half five years.
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They didn't need any amendments from the WHO. They didn't need a new treaty
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to abuse the people all around the world. Some areas maybe not so bad.
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Some areas actually, you know, absolutely horrible, and in some jurisdictions.
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Western Australia comes to mind. After COVID wound down, they implemented legislation
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that is so unbelievably dystopian. Whatever comes next is going to be horrific.
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Those issues, the lockdowns, the mandates, the control of your healthcare system
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that is local you were abused by your school board, your city council,
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whatever they call, you know, your provincial government, or whatever it might
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be. This is not about that. And so everybody's been screaming and yelling
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and barking up the wrong tree. Did another article about a month ago entitled
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barking up the wrong tree? Why are you all people looking at the wrong
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thing? Follow the money? Now? Interestingly enough, that article, even
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though it's all completely brand new, was not put in bold print in this
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document. Now, the article just before it, article forty four, they
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made a number of amendments, and it's all about the money. And then
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when you go to Article fifty four bis, paragraph four was also accidentally right
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not put in bold and it says the committee this is the implementation Committee,
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shall adopt at its first meeting by consensus terms of reference, which means you
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know, they're the way they're going to operate for the coordinating financial mechanism established
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in Article forty four bis. If you were just looking for the bold amendments,
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you'd go right past these. And it says that the modalities and operationalization
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and governance is going to be determined whenever they get around to determining it.
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So there's a whole lot of questions that need to be asked that are hidden
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because it's not going to be until that committee meets at some point in the
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future where they're going to talk about the money to build out what's going on
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and the whole purpose of this. Now, the reason why these negotiations started
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in the first place. You have to erase your brain. And I don't
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really like this word, but I'll use it because people understand it. Pretend
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that you are enormy and go back to December of twenty twenty one and put
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yourself in a nation where it was relatively poor and your country was unable to
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get the jabs that were, you know, you thought were needed to inject
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into the people of your nation. Then you look over at Canada and you
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see that Trudeau got a contract for four hundred million jabs for forty million people.
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The attitude that started this was, Hey, you're hogging up all these
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life saving jabs. Now I'm obviously being facetious. We're pretending to be normies
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here, they said to the who we won a special session of the World
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Health Assembly, and the declaration that came out of it was the nations who
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felt they were being short changed by not getting the jabs, said to the
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WHO, we need you to convene, you know, meetings to help negotiate
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an agreement or you know, a convention agreement or other international instrument. It
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took a fork in the road and it added in, you know, amendments
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to the international Health regulations. We need to have a worldwide agreement amongst nations
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ensuring equitable access to pandemic related products. The purpose of these negotiations was never
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an attack on sovereignty. It was never a who coup to take over your
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nation's healthcare policy. That has been misinformation for the last year or so.
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So what we're really dealing with here, and I'm going to go to Article
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thirteen, Page twelve, paragraph eight c. The Director General shall support States,
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parties nations in scaling up and geographically diversifying the production of relevant health products.
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Well, that raises the question, you know, what the heck is
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a relevant health product? So you go back to article one. An irrelevant
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health product includes pharmaceutical medicines, vaccines, diagnostics, and at the last minute
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they added in sell and gene based therapies and other health technologies. I know
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you're the interviewer. But let me ask you a rhetorical question. And you
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know I'm not giving you a hard time because you know, a year and
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a half ago or two I had to look it up. Are you familiar
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with the phrase global public good? No, I'm not James at all.
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It sounds it sounds wonderful, doesn't it. Okay, a global public good
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is something that is infinite. I can get as much of it as I
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want, and so can you. And I could be greedy and you know,
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just take everything that I want, but there's still plenty for you.
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It's infinite. Now that sounds off the top of the head. You go,
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well, wait a minute, what is that? Well, you know,
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think about sunshine. Now, that's maybe a bad example in England.
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Okay, I know you had a hot month, but you know, sometimes
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there's not enough sunshine. But just because I'm out in the sun sunbathing,
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I could do that all I want, and so can you. Breathing.
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You could breathe, You could hyperventilate all you want. You can. You
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know you're going to be making a lot of carbon dioxide, so you'll get
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in trouble, you know, with your carbon footprint, But as much as
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you could possibly breathe. You're not going to, you know, take away
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my ability to breathe. If you go down to the ocean and get a
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bucket of water, you can get all the buckets you could ever carry,
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and I'm still going to be able to go down to the ocean. It's
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pretty close to infinite. Intellectually, this video is technically a global public good.
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I can watch it. You can watch it. Everybody in the world
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can watch it, and everybody should. It's it's endless. I mean,
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it'll get censored and it'll get shadow band, but anybody who wants to watch
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it can watch it. If you create a PDF document and people can download
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it. I can read it, You can read it. Everybody can read
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it. Well. In November of twenty twenty one, before all of this
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started, Heteros said we want, and he used the term at the time
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pandemic related products to be a global public good. They want jabs and drugs
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and diagnostics and masks and all that stuff to be so ubiquitous that it flows
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like water out of a faucet. You want a jab, how many would
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you like? Come on down, you want some drugs, Come on down.
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You need to get something stuck up into your brain to determine whether or
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not you think you're ill. We've got all that you could ever possibly want.
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So Article thirteen A said that the Director General shall help all of the
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nations have geographically distributed manufacturing. Let me go back in time to September thirtieth
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of twenty twenty two, when the Nations proposed these amendments. Bangladesh and the
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African Nations proposed Article thirteen A. They were very similar that they were a
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little bit different, and they proposed a alocation mechanism. They wanted Tedras to
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be in charge of Well, you know, hey, Canada, you make
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a lot of those lipid nanoparticles, and you know these people in this country
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they need that that they're not able to get access to it, so you
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need to give that to them. They wanted to set it up with Tedros
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being in charge, you know, very Marxist philosophy of the control of the
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means of production and distribution. Well, four months later, after the Review
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Committee, the International Health Regulations Review Committee presented their report on February sixth,
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twenty twenty three, they said, nah, you know what, we don't
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want to be in that position. We're an advisory body. We don't have
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the authority to do that in the constitution, and that would bring liability down
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upon us. You guys got to think up a better idea, and it
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mutated into what we have in this document. The nations who called for that
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actually got more than they asked for. They asked for you know, dear
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mister Teddris, can you tell those people to give us what we need?
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It morphed into well, let's create a financial mechanism and have all kinds of
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money flows through that mechanism. We won't define it in this document. Next
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time we meet, we'll give you the details of how that's going to work.
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And what we want to do is build out the manufacturing capacity of the
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world in third world countries. Let's take money from wealthy nations. Or and
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this is the answer to the question where you said, well, who is
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above the who It's the banking cartels, it's the IMF, it's the World
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Bank, it's the International Bank of Settlements, it's the money lenders who went
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in on the game because they realized, look at all of the money that
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was made during COVID, we need They had trouble due to cold storage,
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and you know, logistics and transport and limited manufacturing capacity. They're addressing those
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problems so that they can have massive investment all around the world to build out
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laboratories and testing and manufacturing. And there's something that happened on May twenty fourth,
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Friday, just before all of these last minute negotiations kicked in the gear.
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I wondered, maybe you did or maybe you didn't see the article that
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I published about the WIPEOU Treaty. The World Intellectual Property Organization on Friday May
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twenty fourth signed They had a signing ceremony. One hundred and thirty eight nations
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signed a new treaty about intellectual property. And what they agreed to settled the
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difficult negotiation arguments that were going on with the pandemic treaty, because where they
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were stuck is they were arguing in the who about intellectual property and it's so
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upside down and backwards. So many people have been saying, oh, the
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who is attacking our national sovereignty, when in essence, these negotiations were exactly
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the opposite. Negotiations were predicated on primarily the African nations standing up and pushing
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back against colonialism, corporate colonialism, saying, wait a minute. You remember
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when Botswana and South Africa identified genetic sequence and you know, believe what you
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want about viruses. You know, they came up with a data file and
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they said, well, this is omicron and they gave it over to the
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world and they were met with travel restrictions, which you know, hurt their
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economy. And then Fizer and Maderna put that information into the boosters made a
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couple of more billion dollars and the nations you're going, hey, wait a
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minute, we just got punked, we just got burnt. It's it's like
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old school colonialism where you go and you you know, just exploit the natural
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resources of a company of a country. You know, you go digging for
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drilling for oil and gas or gold miner I'm in mind, or timber from
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their forests or whatever. They got robbed by Pizer and Maderna, who took
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their intellectual property, hireded it, and turned it into money. And so
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in Article thirteen A the proposed amendments, they're saying, no, we're not
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ever giving you any pathogen information unless you promised to share the benefits. Well,
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they were arguing about that in the Pandemic Treaty negotiations in the WHO.
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That's not the right place for that. So they bopped over across town and
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signed a treaty that essentially deals with that issue. In the future, anyone
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who applies for a patent and once the genetic information from some type of pathogen
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to be incorporated into that patent, they have to identify where they got that
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information from. And that's how they would track royalties. Oh, you're making
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all kinds of money you use this genetic information you us. That opened up
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the floodgates. And so during the World Health Assembly they were supposed to make
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a decision about the amendments and the treaty, and now that that had happened,
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they said, on Tuesday the twenty eighth, hey, hold on a
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moment, we're going to put together a secret drafting group. And they worked
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to the wee hours of the morning every day Wednesday, Thursday, Friday into
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Saturday, and they hammered out an agreement. This is a financial contract.
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This is the WHO saying, Hey, we got that IP stuff settled.
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Will help you figure out how to get the money from wherever we can find
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the money. We'll work that out later. At a meeting of the Implementation
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Committee whenever the heck they get around to doing that. And the money that
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is going to be redirected through all of these many financial resources is going to
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build out the pharmaceutical hospital emergency industrial complex in order to make drugs and jabs
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and diagnostics flow like water from a faucet. They want those products to be
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a global public good. Now, why didn't they do that with vitamin A
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and vitamin D and vitamin C and zinc and you know, herbal remedies and
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all that sort of stuff. Well, there's no money in that. This
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is big Pharma working with you know, mister Global, as Katherine Austin Fitz
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calls it, to build out the industry that is enormously profitable because if you
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can go looking for a pathogen, bring it into a laboratory, turn it
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into a genetic sequence, that is very, very scary, and have the
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pharmaceutical industry make all of these products and put billions of dollars worth of product
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into the who's you know, global distribution and logistics hubs. When you scare
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people and everything is right there ready and waiting to go to get stuck into
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somebody's arm or serve down their throat or stuck up their nose. They're solving
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the problem that they had. They had a logistics problem. This isn't a
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health problem. This is designed to decrease your health and increase their wealth.
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Now it's easy to miss because everybody's been talking about everything else under the sun,
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and they buried this information in the middle of their document, and they
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conveniently forgot to bold some of the important aspects of it. I please,
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don't anybody believe me, Right, I'm just a carpenter. What do I
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know? Right? You know, I fix up old furniture like they're behind
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me. But I could read. And if you just follow the money,
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it'll, you know, you'll find the criminals at the end of it.
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That's what this is all about. This is about money deal to build out
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big pharma around the world so they can make poisons and biological weapons flow like
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water from a fossil. Oh my goodness, James, there's so much to
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unpack there. But basically, what I'm hearing you say is that the developed
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countries are going to be piling money into the WHO in order to siphon out
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to underdeveloped countries in order to pump out a load more mRNA jabs, pretty
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much anything they can think of. But I want to bring you back actually
32:50
because when you said there's so much to unpack there health products, and you
32:55
mentioned sell and gene product and that's an immediate red flag in my head because
33:04
basically, what I understand is that ted Ross has now got the ability to
33:09
upscale all of these products. And when we say upscale, remaning back to
33:16
Patrick Valance and the Gates and Melinda Gates their one hundred day mission. So
33:23
not only does now do we now have the money to fund the upscaling with
33:30
more manufacturing facilities, and we're seeing that in the UK. You know,
33:32
we've never been a vaccine manufacturer, and yet all of a sudden we've got
33:37
Maderna popping up with a vaccine manufacturing center here. We've also got a vaccine
33:43
manufacturing industrial complex as well being built here. So everything that you're saying makes
33:50
perfect sense. But the cell and gene products and catapults and genomics and surveillance
34:00
are all ringing alarm bells in my head. As when you said too and
34:04
I had to chuckle a little bit because you mentioned those two words that nobody
34:08
likes carbon footprints. And I'm thinking how many private jets went to Geneva for
34:15
a week. How much was the carbon footprints for all of those countries.
34:24
Someone that I know in Australia put in a foyer request and one of the
34:30
documents that they received was for one trip for two I don't want to say
34:37
delegates, but two representatives to go to the negotiations, you know, for
34:42
the amendments and the treaty. To go from Australia to Geneva for one series
34:47
of discussions was forty seven thousand dollars and so you know the money, I
34:54
mean, you know, multiply that times. How many times did they go
34:58
back and forth? And how many nations around the world and so forth.
35:02
You know, they spent millions upon millions of dollars just in these negotiations.
35:07
And you know, what, what is the carbon footprint of the pandemic agreement?
35:10
You know, if somebody wants to try to calculate it, that would
35:13
be interesting. That's all a sham anyways, so don't worry about it.
35:15
You know, carbon dioxide, you know, helps plants grow, and that's
35:20
a whole nother story. But the point here is our movement has been declaring
35:29
victory because they had been misdiagnosing what was actually going on in these negotiations.
35:38
Now there's another point, and I think we have a little bit of time
35:42
to talk about another point. Way back in November of twenty twenty two,
35:49
I was looking for the amendments to the International Health Regulations that had been submitted,
35:55
but they were not yet made public. They weren't made public until December
36:00
of twenty twenty two. And while I was searching, I came upon the
36:04
B twenty meeting comes after the G twenty and it was in Bali that year,
36:09
and the Indonesian Health Minister let the cat out of the bag. He
36:14
said a couple of things. First and foremost, he was talking about something
36:19
that he knew was going to happen the next month in December. And what
36:22
that was was that the United States Defense Department had been working and they had
36:30
settled in on the negotiations and had got passed into law and signed by Biden
36:35
in December of twenty twenty two, where we pledged five billion dollars over the
36:40
next five years to the World Bank Pandemic Fund. So, if you haven't
36:45
read about the Pandemic Fund, go to my subseck and search for a pandemic
36:50
fund, and you'll see what they're doing. In twenty twenty three, they
36:53
dished out several hundred million dollars to nations around the world to start building out
37:00
these networks. And what he said to the audience of business leaders in Indonesia,
37:07
the World Bank Pandemic Fund is just about to get rolling. This is
37:10
a spectacular business opportunity. Go invest. And so one of the things that
37:17
caught my eye with all of these negotiations going on with the treaty and the
37:22
amendments is, and I'm going to just find the section here, there were
37:29
these I'm going to be mean a little bit and say, there were these
37:34
parasites and vultures, you know, circling around the carcass of these negotiations looking
37:40
for a bone to pick. All of the civil service, I'm sorry,
37:44
civil society organizations and non state actors and non government organizations and foundations and nonprofits
37:52
or whatever. Everybody wanted this negotiation to continue. They wanted to be successful.
38:00
And if you go to page thirty one, Article forty four Bis two
38:05
E. The mechanism, the financial mechanism shall leverage voluntary monetary contributions for organizations
38:16
and other entities supporting the nations. So you know, pick your favorite charity
38:25
that is maybe doing some things that are a little bit nefarious and they're willing
38:30
to do what the who or the banking establishment want them to do. They're
38:36
lined up to get funding, you know, think Planned Parenthood or Doctors Without
38:40
Borders or whatever. Some of these organizations may do good things, and some
38:45
of these organizations may really be a front, you know, an astro turf,
38:51
not really a grassroots but a fake grassroots, an AstroTurf organization that comes
38:57
into countries and does things that you know, they want you to believe were
39:00
wonderful, but maybe not so much. Maybe they're not in the best interest,
39:06
you know, to like the Rotary International wants to spend tens of millions
39:10
of dollars, you know, giving polio vaccines. Well, one of the
39:16
things that they crossed out in the annex of the amendments is they no longer
39:22
have to report on wild type polio virus because there really isnt any it's all
39:28
vaccine derived. I mean, you know that they're causing problems under the guise
39:34
of solving problems, so that the money just keeps flowing, and so that
39:38
one point forty four bis are paragraphed two E. That's where this is what
39:47
I have referred to as twenty first century upgrade to fascism. Fascism was defined,
39:57
maybe he said it, maybe he didn't, but people attributed to Benito
40:00
Mussolini that it's government and corporations working together to take advantage of the little people.
40:07
Well, when you add a third leg to that, it becomes a
40:12
tryad, It becomes very stable and very powerful. All of these public private
40:16
partnerships with all of these non government organizations. The government realizes that the government
40:24
is constrained on a certain level by a constitution or a bill of rights,
40:30
and there's things that they cannot do. So they contract it out to corporations
40:36
or NGOs, and then the NGOs get millions and millions of dollars and they
40:42
go do the bidding of their overlords happily. Because the money is flowing,
40:46
they make wonderful salaries. The WHO published their financials in twenty twenty three.
40:52
They had over nine thousand employees earning an average of one hundred and thirty one
40:58
thousand dollars a year. Thirty percent of their budget went to salaries, so
41:04
you know, this is all about the money, and the money is going
41:09
to be used to make poisons and biological weapons and things that. You know.
41:15
I spoke to someone who said, uh that their daughter would not let
41:22
them see their grandchildren unless they were tested. So they gave in. They
41:28
got tested, and when they scraped a sample of your genetic material off the
41:31
top of their nasal fairings, they started having blood, you know, spinal
41:37
fluid, cerebral fluid rather you know, draining into their nasal. They ended
41:42
up paralyzed from a PCR test. These are murder weapons. Run death is
41:47
near medas LAMB. They didn't have enough, you know, the UK had
41:52
plenty. They bought all of France's as I understand, and you know we're
41:55
able to insert you know, I believe it's the Liverpool Protocol, so that
42:00
everybody could have a good death. This is what they're trying to turn into
42:07
a global public good. And so the PSIO about oh ted Ros is trying
42:15
to take over the world and wants to tell your government how to do healthcare
42:20
and lockdowns and mandates. It's going to attack your national sovereignty. It's exactly
42:24
the opposite. This was nations saying, these are our genetic resources. We're
42:34
going to stand our ground and unless you pay us for that core raw material.
42:42
You know, think of the colonial times where natural resources were exploited by
42:45
nations and now it's corporations. Through the Convention for Biological Diversity in nineteen ninety
42:53
two, there was supposed to be an agreement that was an access and benefit
42:59
sharing where if corporations came in and looked at some herb or some you know,
43:06
native healing techniques and went back and changed those chemicals a little bit to
43:10
turn it into a pharmaceutical, they were supposed to share the benefits. Well,
43:15
you just put a pee in front of the access and benefit system,
43:20
you get pathogen access and benefit sharing system. These negotiations have always been about
43:27
a couple of things that are surrounded by money. The nations got burned when
43:31
they handed over their sovereign biological resource genetic information, and they're not going to
43:37
let that happen again. They want a piece of the pie, and so
43:43
at the same time they weren't able to get the fruit of that. If
43:47
you know, it's a poison fruit. But the jabs that were created,
43:52
you know, Canada bought up ten times what they wanted. Everybody else bought
43:54
up ten times what they wanted. If they would just wake up and realize
43:59
the core fraud that's being perpetrated. The diagnostics are dangerous, let alone,
44:05
you know, fraudulent and inaccurate. The drugs are murder weapons, and so
44:10
are the jabs. But they don't care because it's not about improving your health.
44:16
It's about degrading your health so that they can multiply their wealth. I
44:23
know we're not quite ready to summarize it, but you know my pre final
44:28
word before my final word is follow the money and look in these documents and
44:32
read them and understand that this has always been about equity. If you've been
44:38
paying any attention to what's going on, you know with these negotiations, Why
44:44
is everybody always talking about equity, Well, equity means money. You buy
44:49
a home, you have a mortgage, you pay some of it down,
44:52
you do some improvements, the value, the price goes up. You say
44:54
that you have equity in your home. If you buy stock company, you
45:00
have an equity stake. You own part of that company, You have equity.
45:05
The nations around the world were clamoring for equity, but they asked for
45:12
equitable access to pandemic related products. Originally they said, you know, can
45:17
we set it up so that the Director General tells Nation A to give us,
45:22
you know, give what they're making to Nation B. And this ended
45:25
up to be more than they asked for. Oh no, we're not going
45:30
to do it that way. Let's let's have this financial mechanism, which is
45:35
not necessarily a fund. It's more like, oh, you know, some
45:40
oligarch calls up to the Who's coordinating Financial Mechanism office and they go, look,
45:47
you know, I'm an oligarch in this country, and I want to
45:51
get hooked up with some financing so I could build an m RNA manufacturing plan.
45:54
Oh okay, great, We'll connect you to the World Bank or the
45:58
IMF or some other banking or tell we'll get you the money. Maybe we'll
46:01
get you a grant. We'll help you write the grant. You're doing something
46:05
that we want you to do, because you're going to be making these poisonous
46:07
products be a global public good. Now that's not going to benefit the average
46:15
person. That's going to poison the average person, but it's going to make
46:20
a whole heck of a lot of profit. Now in the treaty they want
46:23
to institute one health surveillance. Well, they say that that's you know,
46:29
to go looking for pathogens with pandemic potential. I put an extra p in
46:36
there. They're looking for pathogens with pandemic profiteering potential, and if they find
46:43
them, it's a chain. The money starts flowing. Give them the genetic
46:49
sequence. If that goes into a patent, it's being tracked so that somebody
46:53
can get royalties. And if it's turned into a product, you know,
46:59
they'll fill up the WHO warehouses. They proudly proclaimed that they have a twenty
47:05
thousand square meter facility just in one of their regions in Dubai. That's four
47:12
football fields. How much corruption could you engender trying to fill up four football
47:21
fields with relevant health products? And so I've dubbed this the new OPEK.
47:28
You know, it's not the oil producing in exporting countries. It's the organization
47:31
of pandemic emergency corporations. They're not necessarily coming to make you get jabbed.
47:38
Your local officials will handle that for you. They're coming for your money,
47:43
James, I've been scribbling down notes so excuse me, Will I keep referring
47:47
to my notes, because there's just a couple of things before we do go
47:51
to your last word. There's a few questions I've got and a very important
47:55
point that i'd like you to elaborate on, which will could affect every single
48:00
person watching and listening. So I just want to take you back to a
48:05
bit of fake news because actually it wasn't the hottest May in the UK.
48:09
I don't know where the Met Office have got that from. It's rained more
48:13
days than I care to remember, so if you're getting that news you might
48:16
want to raise an eyebrow to that. But interesting you said about the salaries
48:22
of the employees of the WHO, because just before we talk today I went
48:29
on to have a look and see how much Ted Ross's salary was, and
48:32
according to the WHO website, Ted Ross's salary is two hundred and sixty five
48:39
thousand euros a year, which is equivalent to about two hundred thousand dollars a
48:45
year. And when you mentioned public private partnerships, we have been focusing very
48:50
much on UK column on NGO's public private partnerships transfer of assets, and I
48:57
think you've made it extremely plane today for everybody that we now know that this
49:04
is basically a massive money laundering operation organize criminals, and yeah, you're right,
49:12
follow the money. The one thing that I did pick up to was
49:15
you mentioned the word diagnostics, and I too have been mentioning the word diagnostics
49:20
and the PCR tests. For example, the very sad story that you said
49:25
there there's a little tiny structure at the top of the nose and it's called
49:31
the crib reform plate, and it's very fragile, really fragile. That's why
49:37
we tell kids not to stick anything up their nose because once they do,
49:40
it's very difficult to get it back down again and it can be very dangerous.
49:45
So a PCR test right from the get go, I was always as
49:49
an e NT nurse, I was always very concerned about because you'd have to
49:53
have the head at a certain angle. I would always be supervised, possibly
49:58
by either as senior nurse or a consultant. So when I saw these sticks
50:05
being shoved up people's noses through car windows, I was absolutely horrified, horrified.
50:13
And the other thing too that you mentioned there was the Liverpool Pathway is
50:17
what I think you were referring to, where they were pretty much killing everybody
50:22
off. Bill Gates has got his germ team, of course, looking for
50:28
pathogens, looking for bugs, looking for reasons that they can medicate us.
50:32
But I just want to ask you very quickly, if I or my children,
50:39
for example, or my family or friends were abroad and ted Ros for
50:46
example, called a global emergency and we were in Spain, what kind of
50:55
things do you think would happen to us given these new amendments or the adopted
51:04
amendments, and then further on down the line, the Pandemic Preparedness Treaty.
51:08
Because I know that you've mentioned the word guardianship, and when I heard you
51:13
talking about guardianship before, it really it really concerned me. Can you tell
51:20
us a little bit more about that, because potentially we could be in another
51:23
country and not allowed to leave, or we could be quarantined, or we
51:29
could be tested, we could be mandated, we could be have a guardian
51:34
appointed to us. I mean, is this all fake news or is this
51:37
a possibility? This has been in the International Health Regulation since two thousand and
51:45
five. In article thirty one, it says as plain as day and the
51:50
Doubles speak is astonishing. Okay. It says, you know, nobody should,
51:54
you know, for us anybody to do anything. But you know,
51:58
since you're a soeign nation, you can this if you want. And it
52:00
says that nations can compel travelers to undergo a medical exam, prophylaxis, vaccine,
52:08
you know, whatever a vaccine is, because the word vaccine is not
52:13
defined in the International Health Regulations, or be isolated in quarantine. And so
52:19
they adopted amendments to Article twenty four to employ the conveyance operators. This is
52:25
part of the fascism I'm talking about. They want the conveyance operators, which
52:30
a conveyance is an airplane or a cruise boat, or train or a bus,
52:36
and the operator is the company that runs that business to enforce not the
52:40
who's mandate. This is where everybody's got this completely confused. This is an
52:45
agreement amongst all of the member nations that if the nation has a policy they
52:52
wanted to be enforced upon embarkation or dis embarkation by the conveyance operator. I
53:00
know people who when they traveled they were put in quarantine. They weren't ill,
53:05
right, you know, Isolation is what you do for someone who is
53:09
ill. Quarantine. There's a word in the International Health Regulations, look it
53:14
up, suspect. If you're even on the boat, if you're on the
53:17
plane and they think, you know, there's some contaminant or some contagion,
53:22
you have suddenly become a suspect and the whole entire conveyance could be quarantine.
53:30
Now add to that, in Articles thirty five, there's you know, details
53:34
about the paperwork that you would need to have, whether it's digital or on
53:37
paper. And Annex four and Annix six is where you know, that's where
53:43
this actual document is an old school vaccine passport. Okay, you know that
53:47
form if anybody's ever had one, it is when they're traveling. That comes
53:52
from Annex six of the International Health Regulations. They're trying to strengthen that.
53:59
And this again points to the psychological operation. So many people around the world
54:05
have been screaming about, oh, you know, we have to defend our
54:07
national sovereignty. Those articles are at a perverse like overblown expression of national sovereignty.
54:19
All of the nations agreed if our citizens travel to your country, well
54:24
you can do whatever you want to them. But when your citizens come to
54:28
our country lawfully, we can do whatever we want to them. Now in
54:31
the United States and elsewhere around the world that you know, just go right
54:35
across the border, no problem. But if you want to do so properly,
54:39
you're at their mercy. Now. There had been a proposed amendment that
54:45
would have facilitated repatriation, you know, which is exactly what you were asking,
54:52
but they didn't adopt that one. You know, somebody spoke up and
54:57
said, hey, you know, if something happens people sho should be able
55:00
to get back home if they did not adopt that. Amen, James.
55:05
Before I come to your last word, I want to ask you a last
55:08
question because there's just so much to ask to ask you. But for anybody
55:14
watching and listening, please go to James's sub stack. All of the links
55:19
will be in the article beneath this interview because James updates it regularly, like
55:24
every day there's a new report, and if there's anything that's coming out of
55:29
the who, James will hear of it first. And I think you've called
55:34
it the biggest country club because obviously there's so many countries involved in it,
55:38
and I love that the biggest country club ever. And I think you also
55:44
said that we all have to empower ourselves. We all have to. We
55:47
have a duty of care to ourselves really to read those international health amendments and
55:57
what's been adopted, because when we do go abroad, if we do go
56:00
abroad, or if we know people that are going abroad, we need to
56:05
be aware of the powers that other countries and other authorities can have on us
56:10
and what might happen to us while we're out there. And we're definitely not
56:15
out of the woods. We're far from out of the woods with regards to
56:19
this. So my final question to you, James is what's the next date
56:23
we should be watching out for what happens next. The next date is yesterday.
56:30
Okay, start paying attention right now for the treaty, which is on
56:37
sort of the side burner. They're going to be starting their negotiations up again
56:44
sometime in July. They have not chosen a date. More to the point,
56:49
what I want people to understand is that they have laid their cards on
56:54
the table. I think I said this earlier, but I'll say it again
56:58
if I did before. They wanted to slam both of these things through,
57:02
and everyone has been looking all around going, oh, they're attacking our national
57:07
sovereignty. The who is trying to take over the world. They want to
57:12
have our governments, you know, do what the Tedro says. And they're
57:15
looking over here and looking over here and looking over here. But they've also
57:20
been saying over and over and over equity, equity. We want equity,
57:25
we demand equity. They told you exactly what they were doing. It's written
57:32
in the document for anyone who has eyes to see. Just read it.
57:38
Please don't listen to anything I say that's hearsay. I can't tell you how
57:45
many times people call me up, Oh did you hear what? So and
57:46
so said, like, yeah, okay, but you got a document,
57:50
you got some evidence, you got a foyer request, you got a hidden
57:52
camera. You know, somebody's saying something. I've had people listen to me
58:00
and turn around and say something to the next person and completely mangle the conversation
58:07
that we just had. It's so important to go to the source. Does
58:14
it matter what somebody says about these documents. It's a whole lot of people
58:20
in alternative media and in the health freedom movement saying that this is a wonderful
58:25
victory. Aren't we so wonderful we stopped the who you know, the pandemic
58:31
treaty is dead. Donate. Okay, there's a whole heck of a lot
58:37
of drifting going on in our space, and so I encourage everybody go look
58:44
around the internet and everywhere and see what are people saying. And when you
58:51
go and you read the documents and you go, wait a minute, so
58:55
and so said this, but that's not what I read in the document.
59:00
And so and so said that, and they're all claiming victory. Does this
59:05
appear to be a victory? Why is the who claiming victory and people on
59:10
our side, our side, are claiming victory as well. Could it be
59:15
both? Did both sides win? I don't think so. I think we
59:21
got our butts work. And it's because people were not reading the documents.
59:28
They were listening to hearsay about the documents, because that's easier. Now.
59:35
I've tried to make it as easy as possible to point out the things that
59:37
are important, but don't listen to what I say about it. Read the
59:43
documents, make up your own mind, reach your own conclusion. And you
59:46
know, if you think this is wonderful and great, because you want all
59:51
these drugs and jabs and diagnostics to flow like water. So there's an infinite
59:54
supply. Then, you know, support the WHO and support the pandemictry me.
1:00:00
I'm going to use every fiber of my being to raise awareness of what
1:00:05
this really is and push back against it and the WHL. We're so grateful
1:00:10
to you, James for having your finger on the pulse, because you literally
1:00:15
have got your finger on the Who's pulse. And I would encourage everybody to
1:00:21
go to James's substack because, like you said, James, you always go
1:00:24
to original sources. So for anybody wanting to see any of the documents that
1:00:30
James has mentioned along the way, or any of his previous substects, they're
1:00:34
all there, all the informations there. James. We always love catching up
1:00:39
with you, and no doubt we'll be catching up with you again very soon.
1:00:45
I can't thank you enough for getting up so early in the morning California
1:00:50
time. But from this side of the planet, we're going to bid you
1:00:53
a goodbye, and we're going to leave as we always do, with our
1:00:59
thanks and our love and your last word, James, thank you so much.
1:01:05
Well, you know this all started for me a couple of years ago
1:01:08
when I was dragged out of bed compelled to go look on the internet,
1:01:14
go search for something, and I ended up finding the amendments that the Biden
1:01:19
administration had submitted back in January of twenty twenty two. Well, you know,
1:01:23
we're having this interview for me. It was at seven am in the
1:01:28
morning, but I got dragged out of bed at four in the morning by
1:01:31
some force, you know. And this is how I try to live my
1:01:35
life. I just follow what guidance comes, you know, to dig up
1:01:37
all of this information so that I could have it, be prepared and present
1:01:42
it and you know, hopefully easy to comprehend manner. My final word is
1:01:49
very simple, do not be afraid. This is not something that people should
1:01:57
be afraid of. I'm a very peaceful person, generally, very calm and
1:02:01
easy going. This should get you enraged, it should get you to the
1:02:08
point non violently. But this enrages me so much. Now I'm ub out
1:02:15
of bed at four in the morning because you know, I have things that
1:02:17
I can do and I have to do. Now. Everyone has their own
1:02:22
capacity, they have their own skills, and everyone has life. You've got
1:02:27
to pay the bills, you've got to take care of your family, You've
1:02:29
got to do all the things you've got to do so you know, you
1:02:31
can dedicate whatever amount of time you want. The step number one is get
1:02:37
clear on what just happened, because in one sense, this is a silver
1:02:44
lining, this is a blessing. They laid their cards on the table.
1:02:51
We now know exactly what they're doing. It's not oh, maybe it's going
1:02:54
to be this, Maybe it's going to be that. Maybe it's going to
1:02:57
be the other thing. If you read the document given you their game plan,
1:03:01
it should make you furious that they want to take billions of dollars,
1:03:07
you know, whether it comes through the World Bank or the other International Monetary
1:03:12
Fund or whatever, so that oligarchs in poor nations who are pretending that they
1:03:19
want to stop the next pandemic, but are really plotting to create it and
1:03:24
profit from it. The simple thing that I want to leave everybody with is
1:03:30
I'm here to help. You can give me a phone call. I'm in
1:03:32
California. It's three one zero six' one nine three zero five to five.
1:03:38
Now is the time to wake people up to the fraud that has been
1:03:44
perpetrated over the last four and a half years. The diagnostics, the drugs,
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the jabs, they're all fraudulent. They're designed to scare you, take
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away your health so that they can redistribute the wealth. And once you realize
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that this is just absolutely, completely and totally evil, right, don't listen
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to the demon on that shoulder. Listen to the angel. A lot of
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times people say the devil's in the details. The angels will bring awareness and
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the answers that you need to push back against what they're doing and go forward
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to make this world a better place. So, if you want to join
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me in that quest, reach out. I'm here to help the best I
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can. And you know, thanks for the opportunity for having me. I
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appreciate it.