Latest / UK Column Radio / UK Column News — 6th July 2026
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Good afternoon.
- 0:09Speaker 2: It's Monday, sixth July twenty twenty six, just after one
- 0:13Speaker 2: o'clock and you are watching UK column News. I'm your host,
- 0:18Speaker 2: Ben Rubin, and I'm delighted to be joined in the
- 0:21Speaker 2: studio by mister Brian Gerrishado O'Brien.
- 0:23Speaker 3: Pleasure to be here against the backdrop of stunning plymouthair
- 0:27Speaker 3: and a very blue sea.
- 0:29Speaker 2: Yeah, beautiful day in Plymouth, beautiful day across the whole
- 0:32Speaker 2: of the UK. I think by the sounds of it,
- 0:34Speaker 2: we've got a pack show today. We're going to be
- 0:36Speaker 2: looking at the secret networks or female leaders who are
- 0:42Speaker 2: coordinating the global climate change agenda. We're going to be
- 0:46Speaker 2: looking at increasing state crackdowns on free speech in pursuit
- 0:51Speaker 2: of the protection of democracy, supposedly the latest in the
- 0:56Speaker 2: Russia Ukraine conflict, including a look at the increasingly parlous
- 1:01Speaker 2: state of the UK armed forces, and also examining Andy
- 1:07Speaker 2: Burnham's concerning but probably unsurprising proximity to issues relating to
- 1:13Speaker 2: child sexual abuse. Before we get into that, though, let's
- 1:17Speaker 2: start by talking about the common good, which is a
- 1:21Speaker 2: term that we're going to hear much more of over
- 1:24Speaker 2: the coming months and probably years. Now as we went
- 1:27Speaker 2: on to air last week, Andy Burnham, the new MP
- 1:30Speaker 2: for Makerfield, was delivering his remarks up in Manchester wearing
- 1:35Speaker 2: his Manchester clothes.
- 1:37Speaker 1: He's got a T shirt on, so it's.
- 1:39Speaker 2: Informal and outside the normal discaws value, but still professional
- 1:44Speaker 2: of course, and he covered a lot essentially talking about
- 1:48Speaker 2: max devolution, even to the point of moving some of
- 1:52Speaker 2: the functions of Downing Street to Manchester, which is an
- 1:56Speaker 2: extraordinary change which he's got no mandate for. But you know,
- 2:01Speaker 2: this is the state of politics in twenty twenty six.
- 2:04Speaker 2: I definitely recommend going to watch the full speech. I'm
- 2:07Speaker 2: going to focus in today on this quote, which he
- 2:11Speaker 2: actually repeated at the end of the speech. So this
- 2:14Speaker 2: is good growth in every postcode, hope in every heart
- 2:19Speaker 2: and Brian is actually tearing up as I said. That's
- 2:21Speaker 2: really got you in the fields, isn't it.
- 2:23Speaker 3: Very emotive stuff, very very cynical of course, but playing
- 2:27Speaker 3: on the heart strings.
- 2:29Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 2:29Speaker 2: So I'm going to dissect this statement because it's clearly
- 2:32Speaker 2: been focus grouped to death and I think we're probably
- 2:35Speaker 2: going to hear this a lot coming out from Berman.
- 2:38Speaker 2: So let's just focus first on the good growth bit.
- 2:42Speaker 2: And who better to talk to us about that than
- 2:45Speaker 2: Mariana Matsakato from UCL who's going to tell us about
- 2:50Speaker 2: her new books, The Common Good, Economy.
- 2:55Speaker 4: And Traditional Economic Theory. The public good is framed as
- 2:59Speaker 4: just a correction basically, for something that the private sector
- 3:02Speaker 4: is not doing. So we need the public sector to
- 3:04Speaker 4: come in and fill the gap, whether it's clean water
- 3:07Speaker 4: or defense systems. The common good that I've been thinking
- 3:10Speaker 4: about a lot, is really about transforming this correction mindset
- 3:14Speaker 4: to an objective mindset where the how matters as much
- 3:18Speaker 4: as the what. This new way of thinking about the
- 3:20Speaker 4: common good, in my opinion, has to actually be founded
- 3:24Speaker 4: on top of some pillars that we hold the system accountable.
- 3:27Speaker 4: And the five different pillars that I've been thinking about
- 3:29Speaker 4: our first direction and purpose not surprising given all my
- 3:33Speaker 4: work on missions. Second, the admission that this is also
- 3:36Speaker 4: about co creation and participation. This is the police part
- 3:40Speaker 4: of Aristotle's that theory of the common good, not just
- 3:43Speaker 4: the tellos the goal, but the police the how. The
- 3:46Speaker 4: third is also about sharing sharing knowledge, especially in the
- 3:49Speaker 4: twenty first century where we talk so much about collective intelligence.
- 3:53Speaker 4: How do we share the knowledge along the way? How
- 3:56Speaker 4: do we bang heads together, but also structure that for
- 3:59Speaker 4: example to patent pools, but also a knowledge sharing agreements
- 4:02Speaker 4: in these collaborations. The fourth is sharing not just the
- 4:06Speaker 4: knowledge but the rewards, the profits. How do we socialize
- 4:09Speaker 4: both risks and rewards or as a good friend of mine,
- 4:12Speaker 4: the Prime Minister in Barbados says, share the burden, share
- 4:15Speaker 4: the bounty. And the fifth, very important, is about transparency
- 4:19Speaker 4: and accountability. If we don't have the data sharing in
- 4:22Speaker 4: terms of what's actually happening in the system, we can't
- 4:25Speaker 4: then actually hold it accountable who's doing what and why.
- 4:35Speaker 2: So that is the common good economy as described by
- 4:40Speaker 2: Mariana Matsakato, who is the Professor of Economics and Innovation
- 4:47Speaker 2: and Public Value at the University College of London. And
- 4:50Speaker 2: this is her new book that she's just written, and
- 4:52Speaker 2: I'm going to just put apart some of the language
- 4:54Speaker 2: a little bit because I think it's quite important for
- 4:56Speaker 2: us to do that. The first thing she talked about
- 4:57Speaker 2: there is that the common good economy is about establishing
- 5:01Speaker 2: a market correction, and that basically means the market isn't
- 5:05Speaker 2: doing what she wants, so she's going to make the
- 5:07Speaker 2: market do what she wants. She talks about this idea
- 5:10Speaker 2: of filling the gap and then used the analogy of
- 5:13Speaker 2: water and defense systems. So this, for me is this
- 5:18Speaker 2: idea of the welfare state and the warfare state. There
- 5:21Speaker 2: are two wings to this system. One is about welfare,
- 5:24Speaker 2: one's about warfare. She's talking about the welfare side of it,
- 5:28Speaker 2: but it's intrinsically linked to warfare, and she's kind of
- 5:31Speaker 2: explicitly linked the two things together. They're talking about water
- 5:34Speaker 2: and defense systems. She has this objective mindset, which basically
- 5:40Speaker 2: I think means there's only one way of doing things,
- 5:42Speaker 2: and that's Marianna's way of doing things. And she wants
- 5:45Speaker 2: to hold the system accountable, which basically means.
- 5:48Speaker 1: Tell the market what to do.
- 5:49Speaker 2: And she's coming into this from the kind of public
- 5:51Speaker 2: sector side of things, and basically this is a wolf
- 5:54Speaker 2: in sheep's clothing. She's at UCL, not the Line School
- 5:58Speaker 2: of Economics where the favoring society is from, but it's
- 6:00Speaker 2: all the same stuff.
- 6:03Speaker 3: And I'll just add to that, Ben, I think many
- 6:05Speaker 3: people might just think she's a lady who's written a book.
- 6:09Speaker 3: She's got some knowledge and she's written a book and
- 6:12Speaker 3: now she's advertising her book with a bit of name
- 6:14Speaker 3: dropping my good friend the Prime Minister of Barbados. But
- 6:18Speaker 3: in reality this is one of a number of very
- 6:22Speaker 3: powerful women backed by some immensely powerful people. So this
- 6:27Speaker 3: isn't just a book. This is policy being revealed from
- 6:32Speaker 3: a different direction, and it's something people really need to
- 6:35Speaker 3: pay attention. Don't expect the BBC or the Labor Party
- 6:39Speaker 3: or the Conservative Party to be revealing policy. It's going
- 6:44Speaker 3: to come from a different direction. This is key part
- 6:46Speaker 3: of Andy Burnham's new ten.
- 6:50Speaker 1: Really absolutely so.
- 6:52Speaker 2: This is the intellectual foundation for what they're proposing to
- 6:56Speaker 2: do in government. Right, So what she's saying is is
- 7:01Speaker 2: essentially translates directly into government policy. And she's being platformed
- 7:06Speaker 2: the UN, the World Economic Forum, everywhere that you'd care
- 7:09Speaker 2: to mention, and occupying a very senior position inside the
- 7:13Speaker 2: British academic establishment and essentially set in the direction for
- 7:17Speaker 2: the current Labor government ultimately. And she talks about this
- 7:20Speaker 2: common good system being built on five pillars, and again
- 7:24Speaker 2: I'm just going to translate these a little bit for you.
- 7:26Speaker 2: The first one she said was purpose and directionality. One
- 7:30Speaker 2: thing you should notice though, is these people they use
- 7:33Speaker 2: really strange words for really simple things. Directionality is not
- 7:36Speaker 2: a real word, it's just direction. This is a way
- 7:39Speaker 2: of making you feel intellectually inferior to them, basically, But
- 7:43Speaker 2: what does that actually mean? Miss, We set policy, She
- 7:47Speaker 2: sets the policy. The next pillar is co creation and participation.
- 7:51Speaker 2: And I used to run co creation processes for corporations
- 7:54Speaker 2: and sincely what that is is a stage managed way
- 7:57Speaker 2: of getting what you want right, So she controlled the process,
- 8:00Speaker 2: We control the process.
- 8:03Speaker 1: The next pillar is collective.
- 8:05Speaker 2: Learning and knowledge sharing, which I translate to we define truth.
- 8:11Speaker 2: And she also talked about patent sharing. So this is
- 8:14Speaker 2: basically giving her access to intellectual property. Yeah, like, show
- 8:19Speaker 2: me what you know and what you can do so
- 8:21Speaker 2: that we can do something with it for the common good.
- 8:23Speaker 3: So that we can take it. And I can say
- 8:26Speaker 3: when the Government Office of the Regions was in force
- 8:30Speaker 3: back in Tony Blair's era, that organization with the development agencies,
- 8:36Speaker 3: was very good at taking people's intellectual property. One day
- 8:40Speaker 3: somebody had a business plan and the next day it
- 8:43Speaker 3: was taken over by the government. There were a number
- 8:46Speaker 3: of evidence stories about this happening.
- 8:50Speaker 1: For the common good. This is just formalizing it, absolutely. Yes.
- 8:54Speaker 2: Next pillar is access for all and reward sharing, which
- 8:58Speaker 2: basically means private capital wins. And I talked about Manchesterism
- 9:02Speaker 2: last week about the idea that actually the real beneficiaries
- 9:04Speaker 2: of all of this have been capital investors and people
- 9:08Speaker 2: working in central government departments. No real benefit to the
- 9:11Speaker 2: people of the UK at all, that you might get
- 9:14Speaker 2: a job if you're lucky and you're not too critical
- 9:16Speaker 2: of the government. And then the final pillar of the
- 9:18Speaker 2: five is transparency and accountability, which basically means total surveillance.
- 9:22Speaker 2: That's what she described there, who's doing what and why.
- 9:26Speaker 3: The average person reads that and they think, oh, well,
- 9:30Speaker 3: this is them saying we recognize we've got to be accountable. No, no, no,
- 9:35Speaker 3: this means that you are going to be suppressed so
- 9:38Speaker 3: that you know nothing and then nothing you do know
- 9:41Speaker 3: is going to be fully revealed. So it's a complete
- 9:44Speaker 3: inversion of the truth.
- 9:47Speaker 2: Of what they're of how they're even describing it to
- 9:50Speaker 2: which is which is pretty much part of the course
- 9:53Speaker 2: at the moment in politics. So that's good growth, right,
- 9:57Speaker 2: So it's going to deliver the things that we've just
- 10:00Speaker 2: described in the way that we've described it. Now that's
- 10:05Speaker 2: going to be delivered according to Andy Burnham into every postcode.
- 10:11Speaker 2: So this is every single postcode in the country, every neighborhood.
- 10:15Speaker 2: On extension of that, which is a term that we
- 10:16Speaker 2: talked a lot about recently, and to understand this a
- 10:19Speaker 2: bit better, let's watch this film from that we're right
- 10:21Speaker 2: here about neighborhood governance.
- 10:27Speaker 5: Families face many challenges at once housing, rising cough, mental
- 10:32Speaker 5: health issues, and childcare, but support services don't always reflect reality.
- 10:39Speaker 5: They often fragmented and hard to navigate it, meaning busy
- 10:43Speaker 5: parents can miss out on vital support, putting their children's
- 10:47Speaker 5: healthy development at risk. A community covenant is one way
- 10:53Speaker 5: to change this. It brings real people, community groups, businesses,
- 10:58Speaker 5: councils together as e wills to make decisions that solve
- 11:02Speaker 5: problems they agree priorities and develop solutions that fit the
- 11:08Speaker 5: local family's needs. By sharing power in this way, decision
- 11:12Speaker 5: making becomes truly collaborative and draws on everybody's insights and ideas,
- 11:19Speaker 5: resulting in happier and healthier neighborhoods. It's a practical, community
- 11:25Speaker 5: powered approach that can work across the country. Our government
- 11:30Speaker 5: plans to introduce new neighborhood governance arrangements across England join
- 11:35Speaker 5: our car to ensure new arrangements put communities in the
- 11:39Speaker 5: driving seat, not just politicians.
- 11:53Speaker 3: That's a cartoon, Ben, But what our audience watching today
- 11:57Speaker 3: is a sneak preview bya The UK column of what
- 12:01Speaker 3: Burnham's policy is. This is already cooked up. It's on
- 12:06Speaker 3: the hot tray, ready to be served up to the population.
- 12:09Speaker 3: You're not going to hear the BBC talking about it
- 12:12Speaker 3: in this level of detail or any of the other
- 12:14Speaker 3: mainstream media. But this, in a cartoon, is where government
- 12:19Speaker 3: and then constitutional and issues of law are going to
- 12:23Speaker 3: go so.
- 12:24Speaker 2: Total centralized control and everything right down to a neighborhood level.
- 12:28Speaker 3: And it's all for your best interest because that cartoon
- 12:31Speaker 3: began by saying effectively that families couldn't survive without the
- 12:36Speaker 3: help of the states. Exactly, they need social services, they
- 12:39Speaker 3: need the childcare because otherwise you just fall apart if
- 12:42Speaker 3: the state's not there, and then and then the rest
- 12:46Speaker 3: leads on. It's very cynical, very very dangerous, very dirty.
- 12:51Speaker 1: In fact, indeed it is.
- 12:52Speaker 2: Yeah, and actually you're right the way that they dress
- 12:55Speaker 2: it up as a child development issue ultimately.
- 12:59Speaker 3: And another adults in fact, if they succumb to this.
- 13:03Speaker 1: Yes, well it is.
- 13:05Speaker 2: It really infantilizes the population and it does, as you say,
- 13:09Speaker 2: it kind of positions the state as this it's almost
- 13:13Speaker 2: like as a as a kind of godlike entity that
- 13:17Speaker 2: has to be involved in every single part of your life.
- 13:19Speaker 3: As you can't cope because you can't co which is
- 13:22Speaker 3: a little individual and you can't cope without a centralized
- 13:25Speaker 3: government exactly.
- 13:26Speaker 2: So this is that was one of a short series
- 13:29Speaker 2: of four films which will provide links to from this organization.
- 13:33Speaker 2: This is we're right here one of many groups operating
- 13:38Speaker 2: in this space, supported by a bunch of charitable foundations,
- 13:44Speaker 2: people that we're very familiar with, certainly here at UK
- 13:47Speaker 2: column Esme Fairburn, Joseph Browntree Trust, the Young Foundation, but
- 13:52Speaker 2: also some Cameron.
- 13:54Speaker 1: Era entities as well.
- 13:55Speaker 2: So Local Trust and Locality you can see on the
- 13:58Speaker 2: top right hand side there partner list. Those are big
- 14:02Speaker 2: society initiatives from way back in twenty eleven actually, so
- 14:07Speaker 2: Local Trust was founded in twenty eleven. So this has
- 14:10Speaker 2: been in trained for at least fifteen years across administrations,
- 14:16Speaker 2: and this is something the UK Conum have been reporting
- 14:18Speaker 2: on pretty much since the inception of this whole thing.
- 14:22Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, So this is this is it playing out.
- 14:27Speaker 2: The NHS importantly is at the core of all of
- 14:30Speaker 2: this and a lot of the neighborhood type organizations that
- 14:33Speaker 2: we've been reporting on that I've in particularly been reporting
- 14:36Speaker 2: on myself over the past year and a half. I'll
- 14:38Speaker 2: just draw your attention again to this one. So this
- 14:41Speaker 2: is Collaborate CIIC, which is founded by this guy, Lord
- 14:45Speaker 2: Victor Adaba Wiley, who amongst other things, is chair of
- 14:48Speaker 2: the NHS Confederation, collaborate and put together this document last year.
- 14:53Speaker 2: This is the building blocks of place based working as
- 14:57Speaker 2: another term. You hear a lot of place that just
- 14:59Speaker 2: means a local area exactly, post code, neighborhood, whatever it
- 15:03Speaker 2: might be. And you can see here that they've mapped
- 15:06Speaker 2: out as I showed on the news last year, they've
- 15:08Speaker 2: mapped out the country all the different organizations, different groups,
- 15:12Speaker 2: right the way down to the neighborhood level, with the
- 15:15Speaker 2: NHS being at the core of this. And this is
- 15:17Speaker 2: obviously reflected in NHS policies. So again are reported on
- 15:20Speaker 2: this last year Neighborhood Health Guidelines delivering a neighborhood health service.
- 15:26Speaker 2: And it's not just the NHS. It's every component part
- 15:29Speaker 2: of mission delivery. So this is icon independent Commission on Neighborhoods.
- 15:34Speaker 2: Again I reported on this last year. This is where
- 15:36Speaker 2: David Halpened from the Behavior Insights team is spending his
- 15:39Speaker 2: time at the moment, and they talk about there being
- 15:41Speaker 2: no pathway to mission delivery without putting neighborhoods front and center.
- 15:45Speaker 2: They've mapped out with Local Trust all of the neighborhoods
- 15:48Speaker 2: around the UK that deserve special attention. Obviously, this is
- 15:52Speaker 2: deeply interlinked with the whole devolution agenda. And if you
- 15:56Speaker 2: remember this time, I think pretty much exactly two years ago,
- 15:58Speaker 2: within the first week, perhaps in the first two or
- 16:01Speaker 2: three days of the new Labor government, all of the
- 16:04Speaker 2: Metro mayors went to go and see Starmer, which saw
- 16:07Speaker 2: Andy Burnham as the then mayor of Manchester, standing shoulders
- 16:09Speaker 2: shoulder with kir Starmer, which tells us us that these
- 16:12Speaker 2: two are completely aligned. There's going to be no change
- 16:15Speaker 2: really in policy direction. It's all really just branding and
- 16:21Speaker 2: this is the direction of travel they're pushing towards. So
- 16:25Speaker 2: that's good growth in every post code. And then just
- 16:27Speaker 2: to wrap up hope in every heart God that sounds nice,
- 16:31Speaker 2: doesn't it. And it's funny because I was down Union
- 16:34Speaker 2: Street over the weekend in Plymouth and I saw this.
- 16:38Speaker 2: It was a hope posters on the front of a
- 16:40Speaker 2: derelicts building and I think that's probably what we're.
- 16:43Speaker 1: Looking at here with mister Burnham.
- 16:46Speaker 3: Absolutely, the ultimate goal is to destroy the country. People
- 16:49Speaker 3: might find this a bit difficult to believe, but as
- 16:52Speaker 3: this policy becomes more clear, you're going to understand just
- 16:57Speaker 3: how destructive it is, because so is not going to
- 17:00Speaker 3: be as the average person imagines it. It's going to come
- 17:04Speaker 3: under this new label. And then we are working very
- 17:08Speaker 3: hard to do some interesting reporting from how this system
- 17:13Speaker 3: penetrates into a city, how it gets into the local community,
- 17:17Speaker 3: and what it's ultimately going to create.
- 17:20Speaker 2: Yeah, all of course of the UK right down from
- 17:22Speaker 2: the top levels of global governance and the rich families,
- 17:25Speaker 2: the dynastic wealth that actually pulled the strings behind the scenes.
- 17:28Speaker 2: And then just to close this section on this issue
- 17:31Speaker 2: of hope. So we've seen this as a political strategy
- 17:34Speaker 2: of political narrative before, particularly with Obama, Well how did
- 17:37Speaker 2: that end up invady seven countries? He further bankrupted America
- 17:42Speaker 2: through various programs started a race war and all of
- 17:46Speaker 2: that done, no doubt for the common good. So this
- 17:50Speaker 2: is very familiar.
- 17:53Speaker 3: Very familiar, but we can add to it. And of
- 17:55Speaker 3: course it was a proponent of Saul Olynski, as was
- 17:59Speaker 3: Cameron Conservatives and Blair's Labor Party. And if you've still
- 18:04Speaker 3: not read the book is easily available as a pdf online.
- 18:09Speaker 3: Have a look at Saul Olinsky and his book Rules
- 18:11Speaker 3: for Radicals and you will see many of the tech
- 18:15Speaker 3: techniques that the government is using in order to attack
- 18:18Speaker 3: communities and individual family members. It's very clear what the
- 18:24Speaker 3: agenda is certainly is well if the government says everything
- 18:28Speaker 3: is about communities and local people. Of course, the reality
- 18:32Speaker 3: is that billions of taxpayers money is being spent to
- 18:35Speaker 3: fund wars overseas which you create. The war in Ukraine
- 18:40Speaker 3: has been one of the biggest and is absorbing most money,
- 18:43Speaker 3: and all of the pledges from the UK government are
- 18:46Speaker 3: that more money, more billions are going to go in,
- 18:49Speaker 3: whether it's munitions or ammunition, general war supplies or of
- 18:55Speaker 3: course the all important drones. So the carnage and the
- 18:59Speaker 3: killing go on. UK government's got money to support that carnage,
- 19:04Speaker 3: but it hasn't got money apparently support families at home. Now,
- 19:08Speaker 3: one of the big lies that's being pushed, particularly by
- 19:11Speaker 3: the BBC, but Western media in general, is that Ukraine
- 19:15Speaker 3: is winning. This is far from the truth. The progress
- 19:19Speaker 3: on the front is a Russian advance. It's always been slow,
- 19:23Speaker 3: but it's never stopped, and now it's coming home to roost.
- 19:26Speaker 3: It's a bit like saying there's a lava flow five
- 19:30Speaker 3: or six miles down the road and nobody's bothered about
- 19:33Speaker 3: it until all of a sudden it's only a couple
- 19:35Speaker 3: of hundred yards away. So if we just have a
- 19:38Speaker 3: look at this first video, big Russian attacks on Kiev.
- 19:43Speaker 3: These have been drone attacks by Russia or Ukraine. Of course,
- 19:48Speaker 3: have been going on since they in particular since the
- 19:51Speaker 3: latter half of the war. These are now growing. The
- 19:53Speaker 3: Russians now targeting military facilities hidden inside Ukrainian cities. And
- 19:59Speaker 3: this this is a report about what's been happening in Key.
- 20:02Speaker 3: Let's have a listen.
- 20:05Speaker 6: Lots of videos on this matter. For example, in this
- 20:09Speaker 6: video we can see not just an explosions somewhere in
- 20:12Speaker 6: the teditor of the city of Gift, but we can
- 20:14Speaker 6: also see this secondary destination. So there were lots of
- 20:18Speaker 6: videos about the secondary detonations, which means that the Russians,
- 20:22Speaker 6: as a results of the over united attack managed to
- 20:26Speaker 6: hit some warehouses or m depots. Maybe the Russians managed
- 20:30Speaker 6: to destroy warehouses with interceptors. Furthermore, according to information we have,
- 20:36Speaker 6: the Russians hit lots of military facilities. This morning, the
- 20:40Speaker 6: Minister of Defense of the Russian figuration provided a list
- 20:44Speaker 6: of military facilities that were attacked by Russians. And furthermore,
- 20:49Speaker 6: this morning, these information about military facilities that were attacked
- 20:54Speaker 6: by Russians were confirmed by satellite pictures where we might
- 20:57Speaker 6: see something like fire anomalies. Lots of fire anomalies were
- 21:02Speaker 6: recorded through the Chaity of Kiev, and when talking about
- 21:06Speaker 6: this zoom we see these icon over fire and as
- 21:11Speaker 6: you can see just from this angle, at least five
- 21:15Speaker 6: fire anomalies were recorded through the Chity of Giev. Two
- 21:18Speaker 6: of them are located in the southwestern parts of the city.
- 21:22Speaker 6: We're talking about these two fire anomalies and three fire
- 21:25Speaker 6: anomalies were recorded through the northern and the northwestern parts
- 21:29Speaker 6: of the city of Giev. Once again, the Russians we're
- 21:32Speaker 6: trying to hit objects of military facilities that the Ukrainians
- 21:36Speaker 6: were using and military and surprises that the Ukrainians were
- 21:40Speaker 6: using first of all to produce drones, long range weapons,
- 21:44Speaker 6: mid range weapons and many many other different things for
- 21:48Speaker 6: the military purposes. In this video we can see a
- 21:52Speaker 6: warehouse that was destroyed by Russians as the results of
- 21:55Speaker 6: the overnighted side.
- 21:58Speaker 3: Two things are happening uk column showing that video clip. Firstly,
- 22:03Speaker 3: we're giving people a look into what's really happening in
- 22:06Speaker 3: Ukraine and these massive, massive attacks by Russia, largely against
- 22:11Speaker 3: military but also energy infrastructure, and we'll be talking about
- 22:15Speaker 3: a little bit more about that in just a few minutes.
- 22:17Speaker 3: But the second point is really accurate detailed reporting by
- 22:23Speaker 3: a YouTube aanelist and blogger able to report each day,
- 22:28Speaker 3: sometimes twice a day, events, sometimes to the hour. None
- 22:34Speaker 3: of this material covered by the multi billion pound BBC
- 22:38Speaker 3: because they do not want to tell the truth about
- 22:41Speaker 3: what's happening in Ukraine. And thus it's no surprise that
- 22:45Speaker 3: we're now seeing the government switching off alternative media on
- 22:50Speaker 3: YouTube in order to promote the BBC, another favored Western media.
- 22:56Speaker 3: So the reality is, of course they didn't tell the
- 22:59Speaker 3: truth because Ukraine is losing and that process is accelerating.
- 23:04Speaker 3: Now I'll bring on defense politics to Asia. This is
- 23:07Speaker 3: another man who started analysis since the beginning of the
- 23:12Speaker 3: Ukraine War. Also extremely accurate, very balanced in the reports,
- 23:16Speaker 3: taking information from both the Ukrainians and the Russians and
- 23:21Speaker 3: synthesizing that into a balanced picture. But the key point
- 23:26Speaker 3: of this particular slide is that he is, amongst others,
- 23:30Speaker 3: reporting that Constantinivka that on screen, has fallen, and yet
- 23:36Speaker 3: the BBC in particular has been denying this for at
- 23:41Speaker 3: least a week. Two weeks the Russians have been saying
- 23:45Speaker 3: the city has have fallen apart from mopping up. Now
- 23:49Speaker 3: finally it's evident, with Russian flags all the way across
- 23:52Speaker 3: the geographic area of the city that Constantinivka has indeed fallen.
- 23:59Speaker 3: We might get so response, but the BBC utterly lying
- 24:03Speaker 3: to the British public by deceiving them about the reality
- 24:07Speaker 3: of what's happening on the front. Now Constantinivko strategic town.
- 24:12Speaker 3: So it falling means the Russians are in an even
- 24:15Speaker 3: better position to move from the southeastern corner further into
- 24:22Speaker 3: Donbas and towards Zaparisia, and that progress is going to accelerate.
- 24:28Speaker 3: Now where this is getting to and this has moved
- 24:31Speaker 3: up now more to the north, the northern sector of
- 24:37Speaker 3: the front. We've now got the Russians that have made
- 24:41Speaker 3: progress from the east and the next two strategic cities
- 24:46Speaker 3: to be taken Slavianskire and to the south of it,
- 24:52Speaker 3: kramer Torsk, And these are the last two strategic cities
- 24:56Speaker 3: left in the Donbas And when Russia has taken them,
- 24:59Speaker 3: progress will still cost them casualties, you could say, will
- 25:03Speaker 3: cost them dearly. But the Russians are now going to
- 25:07Speaker 3: be able to move deeper into Ukraine if they want
- 25:10Speaker 3: to take more of the Donbass. Now, how is all
- 25:13Speaker 3: this happening on the grounds, Well, let's bring in a
- 25:15Speaker 3: little bit of video here. The Russians supplied with highly
- 25:20Speaker 3: accurate air launched and missile systems which they are targeting
- 25:25Speaker 3: any group of Ukrainians on the ground or any mustering points.
- 25:30Speaker 3: As you can see from the size of the explosions
- 25:32Speaker 3: on screen, there's no survival in this and Ukrainian force
- 25:37Speaker 3: is increasingly unable, particularly to counter missile attacks, and Patriot
- 25:43Speaker 3: system is now known to be effectively useless in the
- 25:46Speaker 3: Ukrainian theater. The American defense industry doesn't want to admit that.
- 25:51Speaker 3: But also the Americans refusing to give the Ukrainians more
- 25:56Speaker 3: interceptor missiles because they have a shortage with the US
- 26:00Speaker 3: military as a result of the loss of the war
- 26:03Speaker 3: against Iran. But if I had this little video clip,
- 26:07Speaker 3: this is where life is very harrowing on the front
- 26:10Speaker 3: because this is effectively when men are being hunted by drones.
- 26:15Speaker 3: This is Ukrainian support based drone support base, the man
- 26:21Speaker 3: easily identified from the drone and then the strikes are
- 26:25Speaker 3: called in on top. And so this is the reality
- 26:29Speaker 3: of the war that Britain is helping to fund. Men
- 26:33Speaker 3: and women hunted on the battlefield by drones produced in
- 26:37Speaker 3: uk and apparently we're to be pleased that our young
- 26:40Speaker 3: people and teenagers are going to be recruited into those
- 26:44Speaker 3: defense industries. Then it's truly sickening and I've no doubt
- 26:49Speaker 3: Burnham's going to continue the same policy. But I also
- 26:53Speaker 3: want to point out that the Russians and out targeting
- 26:55Speaker 3: petrol stations across Ukraine in order to event supplies getting
- 27:01Speaker 3: to the front. Some two hundred plus petrol stations outtaken
- 27:05Speaker 3: out of action and of course, when this happens, there's
- 27:08Speaker 3: massive disruption to military reinforcement and supplies to the front.
- 27:14Speaker 3: This little clip is the aftermath. This is the burnt
- 27:17Speaker 3: out petrol station, but this scene is mirrored across thousands
- 27:21Speaker 3: of others in Ukraine where there's only one word destroyed.
- 27:26Speaker 3: So the overall picture is that the Russians are certainly
- 27:31Speaker 3: going to take the Dombas, and if the West continues
- 27:34Speaker 3: to supply weapons into Ukraine, the next logical step is
- 27:40Speaker 3: that the Russians will decide to take out the factories
- 27:43Speaker 3: in Europe and indeed uk But we'll come onto that
- 27:47Speaker 3: in the second part of the report.
- 27:50Speaker 1: Do you think have you heard Burnham say anything about
- 27:54Speaker 1: Ukraine or is he just ignoring this issue and trying
- 27:57Speaker 1: to get himself into position on the back of this
- 28:00Speaker 1: of welfare that narrative.
- 28:02Speaker 3: I think he is desperate to establish himself first, so
- 28:06Speaker 3: because he knows that he's on a sticky wicket, many
- 28:10Speaker 3: people saying how on earth did this man become Prime minister,
- 28:13Speaker 3: So he wants to get his feet under the table.
- 28:15Speaker 3: He's going to be very careful in what he said.
- 28:18Speaker 3: Says well, once his feature under the table, I think
- 28:21Speaker 3: you'll see the gloves come off, and we'll see the
- 28:23Speaker 3: real anti Burnham and what he's capable of.
- 28:27Speaker 1: I tend to agree.
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- 30:38Speaker 1: I'm going to say Kin, but I'm not sure if
- 30:40Speaker 1: I'm doing that right.
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- 30:43Speaker 1: So no doubt the chat box will put its strength
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- 30:52Speaker 2: There's me looking slightly. It's serious talking about the Climate Cabal.
- 30:58Speaker 3: Nothing wrong with being serious on that subject. I think
- 31:02Speaker 3: it's a very interesting production you've made.
- 31:05Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
- 31:08Speaker 2: Leads us nicely onto the next section. Actually, we're going
- 31:10Speaker 2: to talk about the climate and we're going to focus
- 31:12Speaker 2: in particularly on these three lovely ladies. Here they are.
- 31:17Speaker 2: So that's Mary Robinson, the former Prime Minister of Ireland,
- 31:21Speaker 2: and she's one of the Elders. I can't remember if
- 31:24Speaker 2: she runs the Elders or she's associated with the Elders
- 31:27Speaker 2: set up by Nelson Mandela. It's kind of global leaders
- 31:30Speaker 2: who are no longer in office. Katie White obe in
- 31:33Speaker 2: the center there, so she's the Minister for Climate. She
- 31:37Speaker 2: works for Ed millerband in the farmer for net zero,
- 31:40Speaker 2: and then Julia Gillard.
- 31:43Speaker 1: We can get that back on screen.
- 31:44Speaker 2: We can see that's the former Prime Minister of Australia
- 31:48Speaker 2: who is a member of the Fabian Society and she's
- 31:51Speaker 2: now the chair of the Welcome Trust, which is where
- 31:55Speaker 2: this event was taking place during London Climate Action Week. Actually,
- 32:00Speaker 2: the Welcome Trust posted saying that it was powerful to
- 32:04Speaker 2: see Junior Gillard and Katie Yob and Mary Robinson come
- 32:09Speaker 2: together at hashtag London Climate Action Week yesterday to make
- 32:12Speaker 2: the case for decisive and collective leadership.
- 32:15Speaker 1: Is that word again? Work? Yeah?
- 32:17Speaker 2: On climate progress. They also issued a joint op piece
- 32:21Speaker 2: in the New State Spurn, which was the in house
- 32:23Speaker 2: Ragular Fabian Society, where they put forward a vision of
- 32:26Speaker 2: climate action as one of our greatest public health opportunities,
- 32:30Speaker 2: a chance not to merely avoid the worst consequences of
- 32:32Speaker 2: climate change, but to build countries that are healthier, more
- 32:34Speaker 2: prosperous and more optimistic than those we inherited. So they're
- 32:38Speaker 2: going to scrap everything that's gone before. They're going to
- 32:41Speaker 2: go to a completely new model, and climate change is
- 32:45Speaker 2: the vehicle for that.
- 32:46Speaker 1: And apparently it is now a.
- 32:47Speaker 2: Public health crisis, which is why we can get organizations
- 32:50Speaker 2: like the Welcome Trust, which was set up with one
- 32:52Speaker 2: of the world's largest endowments to focus on healthcare.
- 32:55Speaker 1: You can drag that into the mix as well.
- 32:57Speaker 3: Now, can I just add a bit in that two things.
- 33:01Speaker 3: One is a little bit of black humor because a
- 33:04Speaker 3: couple of people in our chat boxes, the news has
- 33:07Speaker 3: been running sort of said are these women or are
- 33:10Speaker 3: these ladies? Now? I'm looking at the way these ladies
- 33:14Speaker 3: are dressed because to me, they're in very expensive clothes.
- 33:18Speaker 3: This is not the genes and slacks that you see
- 33:22Speaker 3: for the community activism. You're now into probably designer clothes.
- 33:28Speaker 3: Maybe you know an outfit more than somebody earn's in
- 33:31Speaker 3: a week. And so people, you need to be viewing
- 33:35Speaker 3: these women and there's equivalent in men. These are the
- 33:40Speaker 3: new politicians. Don't think in terms of the power base
- 33:43Speaker 3: being with the MPs, think of the power base being
- 33:46Speaker 3: with these people. These people are in some very expensive
- 33:50Speaker 3: clothes that's reflective of their status and I would say
- 33:54Speaker 3: their power.
- 33:55Speaker 2: Ben absolutely couldn't agree more. And they're members of exclusive
- 34:00Speaker 2: national networks such as that one you see, so you
- 34:04Speaker 2: can just see when get that back on screen, you
- 34:05Speaker 2: can see on their lapels and actually Julia Gillard's got
- 34:09Speaker 2: it in the center of her collar. This this is
- 34:12Speaker 2: the Dandie Lion and this is a women led climate
- 34:17Speaker 2: active group where they're trying to make every issue a
- 34:21Speaker 2: climate issue, so they're all dandy lyons. Professor Charlotte Watts,
- 34:25Speaker 2: who's the executive director of Solutions that the Welcome Trust
- 34:28Speaker 2: is also a dandelion. You can see that on her
- 34:30Speaker 2: chest there, and she says in a post on LinkedIn
- 34:33Speaker 2: that the climate crisis is a health crisis.
- 34:36Speaker 1: So great, glad we got that cleared up.
- 34:38Speaker 2: And then also, interestingly, this guy Alan, I'm going to
- 34:42Speaker 2: say Alan Danger. It's spent, it's spelt d A n
- 34:45Speaker 2: g o us. It might be Dan Gore, but I'm
- 34:48Speaker 2: going to say mister Danger because I quite like it.
- 34:50Speaker 2: He's got one on as well. So they've actually expanded
- 34:52Speaker 2: it out. Now it's not just women, it's also I
- 34:54Speaker 2: guess allies. They probably used the term allies, so men
- 34:58Speaker 2: who are adjacent to this stuff.
- 35:00Speaker 3: We've got more of the power base there because of
- 35:01Speaker 3: course we've got the right to royal carpets, and we've
- 35:05Speaker 3: built the King himself showing intense interest. He's not going
- 35:08Speaker 3: to turn up to your community center to hear what
- 35:11Speaker 3: your community problems are, but he is going to be
- 35:14Speaker 3: there alongside the Welcome Trust and these immensely powerful but
- 35:18Speaker 3: unelected people.
- 35:19Speaker 1: Absolutely yes, So this organization.
- 35:24Speaker 2: I've spoken about it a few times over the past
- 35:27Speaker 2: couple of years, but it was founded by this lady,
- 35:29Speaker 2: Ronda Carnegie's cool project Dandelion, and she took to LinkedIn
- 35:34Speaker 2: last week say that this week at LUND the Climate
- 35:36Speaker 2: Action Week, I found myself looking for one small thing
- 35:39Speaker 2: in every room, a dandelion pin project Andylion is a
- 35:42Speaker 2: movement of people who are connecting, mobilizing, and amplifying one
- 35:46Speaker 2: another's work, helping good ideas find the people who can
- 35:49Speaker 2: help them flourish. To everyone wearing a dandelion, to everyone
- 35:52Speaker 2: who has been pinned, and to everyone who has helped
- 35:55Speaker 2: someone else feel seen, thank you for reminding me that
- 35:58Speaker 2: movements don't grow because of a logo or a strategy.
- 36:01Speaker 2: They grow because people choose to trust each other. So
- 36:05Speaker 2: it sounds like some kind of sorority, doesn't it. You've
- 36:08Speaker 2: been pinned, you've been selected, You're now in the in crowd.
- 36:11Speaker 3: Well, this was all the common purpose agendas, selecting future leaders,
- 36:17Speaker 3: selecting grooming, training people to act outside their silos as
- 36:23Speaker 3: future leaders. It's the same language, which just slightly rebranded
- 36:27Speaker 3: for a new and slightly different organization.
- 36:30Speaker 1: And completely global as well.
- 36:32Speaker 2: And this actually is I reported on previously came out
- 36:34Speaker 2: of this organization.
- 36:36Speaker 1: This is the Connected Women Leaders Network.
- 36:40Speaker 2: Where Ron the Canegie is also one of the founders,
- 36:43Speaker 2: one of the co founders and this group, I'd recommend
- 36:47Speaker 2: just going to provide a link in the show notes
- 36:49Speaker 2: you can go and have a look at it. But
- 36:50Speaker 2: essentially you've got about one hundred and twenty ladies from
- 36:53Speaker 2: the un Time magazine, the World Economic Forum, Young Global
- 36:57Speaker 2: Leader Network, Vital Voices, which was an organization set up
- 37:01Speaker 2: for the State Department to essentially looks like coordinate this
- 37:06Speaker 2: global network of female leaders back in the nineties or
- 37:09Speaker 2: is there something's been going on for a very long time.
- 37:11Speaker 2: And then also a political foundation you can see in
- 37:14Speaker 2: the bottom right hand side there Lisa Wittos, the founder
- 37:16Speaker 2: of a political I've spoken about many many times on
- 37:19Speaker 2: the news, and I suppose I just have to ask
- 37:21Speaker 2: the question very gently intensatively, is is this treason?
- 37:25Speaker 5: Right?
- 37:25Speaker 3: In my book, absolutely, and particularly for the king, because
- 37:28Speaker 3: the king of course has got his own particular responsibilities
- 37:32Speaker 3: to the nation. So in my book it's absolutely treason,
- 37:36Speaker 3: and anybody who's dambling and it should be helped to account.
- 37:40Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more.
- 37:41Speaker 2: And this is important, not the least because he goes
- 37:43Speaker 2: right to the heart of the policy debate in Westminster.
- 37:46Speaker 2: So this week is actually next zero week starts today
- 37:51Speaker 2: and tomorrow evening. There's a drinks reception to talk about
- 37:54Speaker 2: international alignment being critical to real world impact and that
- 37:58Speaker 2: bit international linement is exactly what the Dandelion Network is doing.
- 38:03Speaker 3: Yeah, because we mustn't have disagreements in nation states. We've
- 38:09Speaker 3: got to destroy the nation state and then get the
- 38:12Speaker 3: whole fabric of governance in that country working in a
- 38:16Speaker 3: lined way so that this becomes a global policy.
- 38:21Speaker 1: Ruled by technocracy.
- 38:24Speaker 2: Unelected appointees have been brought into these networks for the
- 38:29Speaker 2: common good.
- 38:30Speaker 3: Of course, we could really just go home and relax, exactly.
- 38:35Speaker 1: I'm feel so much better about it all now.
- 38:37Speaker 3: People have only got our best in dress at hard Yeah.
- 38:40Speaker 1: We're not certainly do.
- 38:42Speaker 2: And just to wrap this up and we'll come back
- 38:43Speaker 2: to this in extra actually, so just I've found this
- 38:46Speaker 2: quite entertaining that we saw Mary Robinson from the Dandelion
- 38:50Speaker 2: Network interviewing our Gore about an Inconvenient Truth then and
- 38:55Speaker 2: now An Inconvenient Truth is his film. We put out
- 38:57Speaker 2: about climate change in two thousand and six, and interestingly,
- 39:01Speaker 2: all of his predictions in their film were wrong.
- 39:04Speaker 3: But that's not a problem for them because they just
- 39:06Speaker 3: carry on regardless.
- 39:08Speaker 2: Well, yes, and he's made North for three hundred million
- 39:10Speaker 2: dollars person they from heat climate transition, so you know
- 39:14Speaker 2: someone's doing all right out of it.
- 39:16Speaker 3: Absolutely. A lot of that is about anxiety and stress,
- 39:22Speaker 3: getting people stressed in order that they're going to better
- 39:25Speaker 3: a deer to the globalists or the international rules based
- 39:29Speaker 3: order policies. But the other great stressor, of course is war.
- 39:34Speaker 3: And if we come back onto this topic, we're going
- 39:36Speaker 3: to be a little bit broader. We're just going to
- 39:37Speaker 3: be looking at Russia, but also having a look at
- 39:40Speaker 3: some of the factors around the UK's defense or what's
- 39:44Speaker 3: left with it. But this is also based on fear
- 39:48Speaker 3: and chosen the Telegraph here. So the big headline from
- 39:52Speaker 3: a few days ago Russia planning attack on Poland to
- 39:57Speaker 3: test NATO resolve US war. Critical infrastructure could be targeted
- 40:03Speaker 3: by missiles and drones, with soldiers potentially crossing the border
- 40:08Speaker 3: from Kaliningrad or Belarus. Now, the Russians at the moment
- 40:12Speaker 3: have got over seven hundred thousand soldiers operating in the
- 40:18Speaker 3: don Bas area in Ukraine and close to and of
- 40:22Speaker 3: course this is on a scale that the West can't
- 40:24Speaker 3: match because the West offense capability has been deliberately destroyed
- 40:30Speaker 3: from the inside. We'll comment on that a bit more.
- 40:33Speaker 3: But is Russia just planning to attack or is there
- 40:37Speaker 3: a possibility that Russia will attack for a reason. I'm
- 40:41Speaker 3: just going to bring in this interview between Professor Glenn Dieson,
- 40:45Speaker 3: who I think is one of the highly respected interviewers
- 40:49Speaker 3: of matters to do with Ukraine in particular, and we're
- 40:54Speaker 3: just going to have a look at this video clip
- 40:55Speaker 3: with him talking to Steve Jeremy, was a retired rawned commodore.
- 41:01Speaker 3: I can only give you a little bit of this,
- 41:03Speaker 3: but I encourage people to go and watch the whole
- 41:06Speaker 3: of the interview because the retired commodore does make really
- 41:10Speaker 3: good points and it's clear that certainly he's certainly in
- 41:15Speaker 3: order daring to the government's approved opinions and policy. So
- 41:22Speaker 3: let's have a listening.
- 41:25Speaker 7: The European leaders are making a lot of comments about
- 41:28Speaker 7: preparing for war with Russia, even setting dates so stating
- 41:32Speaker 7: the intent. They're also developing the capabilities. And again, if
- 41:37Speaker 7: you're sitting in Moscow, you're doing a threat assessment, you
- 41:40Speaker 7: look at the intentions and capabilities, and a clear threats
- 41:47Speaker 7: begins to emerge. And so I was wondering if you
- 41:51Speaker 7: can to unpack your argument, because it doesn't really seem
- 41:53Speaker 7: as if the Europeans are ready for war with Russia.
- 41:58Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 41:58Speaker 8: No, I don't think they are, Glenn. I think the
- 42:00Speaker 8: reason that I wrote the article because I don't think
- 42:03Speaker 8: they have really thought through the potential costs and consequences
- 42:08Speaker 8: of such a war. I think what they're essentially thinking
- 42:11Speaker 8: is that Russia will sit quietly as they prepare for war,
- 42:14Speaker 8: and then in twenty thirty they'll be ready to go.
- 42:17Speaker 8: But before that that they can fire as many or
- 42:19Speaker 8: they can provide as many missiles and Christmas Stars and
- 42:23Speaker 8: drones to attack into Russia with no reaction from Russia.
- 42:26Speaker 8: On both of those things go completely against what's being
- 42:30Speaker 8: said and heard in Russia, and indeed, even Putin recently
- 42:34Speaker 8: said to I think it was to new graduates on
- 42:40Speaker 8: police and armed forces and things like that, that the
- 42:43Speaker 8: Europeans were preparing for a war and that they Russia
- 42:46Speaker 8: would to prepare as well. I think what the Europeans
- 42:49Speaker 8: fundamentally don't seem to understand, or I should say, are
- 42:52Speaker 8: European elites Glenn the leaders don't seem to be understand,
- 42:56Speaker 8: is that as far as Russia is concerned, this is
- 42:58Speaker 8: defensive warp. They are in a defensive posture and everything
- 43:02Speaker 8: that they are doing is to protect themselves from what
- 43:04Speaker 8: they see as a native expansion and getting closer and
- 43:08Speaker 8: closer to the borders about which they've argued for years
- 43:12Speaker 8: and years and years. So it shouldn't be surprised to us,
- 43:14Speaker 8: but the Europeans seem to see it as something of
- 43:17Speaker 8: Colindal ambition. I mean, I can't think why Russia would
- 43:20Speaker 8: want to take over Europe. But more fundamentally, what the
- 43:24Speaker 8: European leaders also haven't done is to actually think through
- 43:27Speaker 8: what would that war would be like? And as I
- 43:30Speaker 8: say in the article, the first thing is that there's
- 43:34Speaker 8: no guarantee, indeed quite the opposite, that the Russians would
- 43:39Speaker 8: wait until twenty thirty.
- 43:43Speaker 3: A very interesting interview. Commodore very quietly spoken, but he's
- 43:49Speaker 3: making all the key points. So he talks about the
- 43:51Speaker 3: bellicost nation and nature of the Western nations, the movement
- 43:56Speaker 3: of NATO eastward, breaking Russia's so called lines and bring
- 44:00Speaker 3: in Russia unto under more and more pressure. He also
- 44:05Speaker 3: later in the interview talks about the fact that he's
- 44:08Speaker 3: very sure that the Russians decided to go back into
- 44:12Speaker 3: Ukraine because the military advice that Putin was getting was
- 44:17Speaker 3: that if they left it later another eighteen months, another
- 44:20Speaker 3: two years, the NATO would have reinforced Ukraine to such
- 44:26Speaker 3: an extent the Russians would have a really enormous battle
- 44:30Speaker 3: on their hands. And so, with the help of Boris
- 44:33Speaker 3: Johnson smashing a past the peace talks, the Russians really
- 44:37Speaker 3: forced to take in the action in Ukraine. And many
- 44:40Speaker 3: people would say, even though it appears to be brutal,
- 44:43Speaker 3: it's only a fraction of the true power that Russia
- 44:47Speaker 3: could be unleashing. So the comments from the Commodore very interesting.
- 44:53Speaker 3: Never heard on the BBC, never heard somebody giving the
- 44:56Speaker 3: opinion that actually Russia's been put on forced up against
- 45:01Speaker 3: the wall and they've got to react due to the
- 45:04Speaker 3: aggressive posture of the West. So courage people to have
- 45:08Speaker 3: look at it. But what is interesting is that as
- 45:11Speaker 3: Starmer or the rest of the British politicians have ramped
- 45:15Speaker 3: up the war in Ukraine. At home, we see nothing
- 45:19Speaker 3: but the demise of our military. I'm just going to
- 45:21Speaker 3: focus on the Royal Navy here. This was a BBC
- 45:24Speaker 3: report from a couple of days ago that the Navy
- 45:27Speaker 3: is to build drone equipped warships instead of replacing aging destroyers.
- 45:32Speaker 3: Now that sweeps over the fact they're talking about the
- 45:35Speaker 3: Type forty five destroyers and the six of these have
- 45:40Speaker 3: never worked properly since they've been in the fleet. This
- 45:42Speaker 3: article on screen now from the National Security Journal is
- 45:47Speaker 3: saying that one Type forty five destroyer has been useless
- 45:51Speaker 3: for eight years. But actually the six of them have
- 45:54Speaker 3: had such enormous problems that it's represented a disaster, and
- 45:59Speaker 3: there's been operational time from these ships due to poor
- 46:02Speaker 3: design and defect So North Korea can launch ships, it
- 46:06Speaker 3: can commission immensely powerful new weapons systems, including hypersonic missiles,
- 46:13Speaker 3: but uk being hollowed out, destroyed from the inside, can't
- 46:17Speaker 3: even manage to produce an effective warship. But the policy
- 46:21Speaker 3: seems to be true across Europe. This is the Wall
- 46:25Speaker 3: Street Journal here reporting that France's Tali's firm is to
- 46:29Speaker 3: take a hit after Germany scraps frigate program. So this
- 46:34Speaker 3: was a really big contract for the French to build
- 46:38Speaker 3: very big warships, certainly as far as Germany's scale is concerned.
- 46:43Speaker 3: But that project has now been kicked offline. And a
- 46:47Speaker 3: lot of this is happening because Germany and the other
- 46:50Speaker 3: Western nations now realize they are years behind in military
- 46:55Speaker 3: technology because of the speed at which new developments and
- 46:59Speaker 3: new technology has been employed. In Ukraine, drones are part
- 47:03Speaker 3: of that. The hypersonic missile systems, which Russia clearly specialize in,
- 47:09Speaker 3: is an absolute lead.
- 47:11Speaker 1: Now, this is.
- 47:11Speaker 3: Another remarkable headline from Defense News. It says that the
- 47:16Speaker 3: UK is left without any is the word that needs
- 47:20Speaker 3: to go in their active attack submarines, as the entire
- 47:23Speaker 3: Astute class fleet remains stuck in port. So that means
- 47:27Speaker 3: that there are no UK nuclear attack submarines. There are
- 47:31Speaker 3: no UK nuclear attack submarines at c to defend the bombers,
- 47:36Speaker 3: the nuclear delivery submarines. They are now very vulnerable to
- 47:41Speaker 3: anything that the Russian submarine fleet would do. And of
- 47:44Speaker 3: course we've got no attack submarines at sea to sink
- 47:47Speaker 3: the Russian submarines themselves. So is this simply incompetence over
- 47:53Speaker 3: a great many years through different governments, conservative labor or
- 47:59Speaker 3: is this or a straighted breakdown. Personally, I think it's
- 48:03Speaker 3: the latter, and we'll be commenting more on that in
- 48:05Speaker 3: forthcoming news reports. Now, on top of all this, billions
- 48:11Speaker 3: has now been formed to sorry, has now been found
- 48:14Speaker 3: in order to install a massive upgrade to the underwater
- 48:20Speaker 3: listening system which has been in place for many years
- 48:24Speaker 3: to track Russian submarines as they leave their northern bases
- 48:28Speaker 3: and move southwest through the Norwegian Sea. We have no
- 48:33Speaker 3: money for anything to rebuild the country's production or manufacturing infrastructure,
- 48:40Speaker 3: but billions are now going to come online for this
- 48:44Speaker 3: so called listening to the ocean secrets enablers in the
- 48:48Speaker 3: underwater battle. And if people want to go and have
- 48:51Speaker 3: a look at this as just you go to RUSSI
- 48:54Speaker 3: and its report on the Atlantic bastion.
- 48:57Speaker 8: Here.
- 48:58Speaker 3: This is a very good artic. It goes about as
- 49:01Speaker 3: close to the wire as you can go without the
- 49:04Speaker 3: author of this particular article breaching the Official Secrets Act.
- 49:09Speaker 3: If you watched Hunt for Red October, which had a
- 49:11Speaker 3: little bit of truth in a lot of excitement, you
- 49:15Speaker 3: can understand a lot more about how we should be
- 49:18Speaker 3: dealing with the Russian submarine fleet if we had the
- 49:23Speaker 3: units to support Atlantic bastion. But just excuse me, just
- 49:28Speaker 3: remember billions available here for this project, even though it
- 49:32Speaker 3: requires new technology to be developed and built in order
- 49:38Speaker 3: to make it happen. Now, while that's going on, of course,
- 49:42Speaker 3: the military being taken apart with the woke agender and
- 49:46Speaker 3: the Telegraph here reporting about a civil servant suing over
- 49:51Speaker 3: an attack on white people as a result of a
- 49:54Speaker 3: diversity course within the mod And this was a paper
- 50:00Speaker 3: called the Psychosis of Whiteness, which was available as a
- 50:04Speaker 3: resource for managers. So Ben, this is getting back into
- 50:08Speaker 3: your territory. And if that's not bad enough, well we've
- 50:11Speaker 3: only got to look at the weekend and Pride in
- 50:13Speaker 3: London in order to see where the British military has
- 50:17Speaker 3: got to. This is just a small excerpt from the parade.
- 50:22Speaker 3: And I can tell you that part of this video
- 50:27Speaker 3: showing British military at this parade is now circulating on
- 50:31Speaker 3: Russian media where they are simply laughing at Britain's military
- 50:37Speaker 3: as if they are a joke. And this should be
- 50:42Speaker 3: very embarrassing to our armed forces. But of course, the
- 50:46Speaker 3: armed forces of more money for this sort of agenda
- 50:49Speaker 3: than they do for producing the weapons and the systems
- 50:53Speaker 3: that they need to fly to war. So as we
- 50:56Speaker 3: see this clip unfold, I've got to say, Ben, the
- 51:01Speaker 3: marching is appalling. Part of that was due to the
- 51:04Speaker 3: fact there's so much noise that it's difficult to control
- 51:08Speaker 3: the squad of men and women here, But nevertheless, the
- 51:12Speaker 3: sights of some people wearing Royal Navy T shirts here,
- 51:18Speaker 3: what is this? Is this a successful nation that's proud
- 51:22Speaker 3: in its ability and its armed forces or have we
- 51:26Speaker 3: got something else at work? Certainly, as far as the
- 51:28Speaker 3: Russians are concerned, they regard it as a joke, and
- 51:33Speaker 3: it's more evidence that really UK is no longer a
- 51:37Speaker 3: viable military force, which of course is exactly what the
- 51:41Speaker 3: Americans have been saying. And in a recent episode of
- 51:46Speaker 3: Scott Ritter he simply says, don't bother with the Brits
- 51:50Speaker 3: because they are no longer capable of operating on a
- 51:54Speaker 3: battlefield in Europe. We don't want the wars. But this
- 51:58Speaker 3: commentary is about the pitiful state of the military and
- 52:02Speaker 3: UK and that decline has been engineered, no question of.
- 52:07Speaker 2: It, no question Brian, and we must remember that warfare
- 52:12Speaker 2: is not just kinetic involving soldiers and sailors and planes
- 52:16Speaker 2: and whatnot. It's also about narrative and information. And there
- 52:22Speaker 2: is an increasing threat to what is being described as
- 52:25Speaker 2: democratic resilience. And to tell you a little bit about
- 52:29Speaker 2: that is Chris Morris from Full Fact.
- 52:35Speaker 9: The next UK general election will take place in an
- 52:37Speaker 9: information environment unlike anything we've seen before, and we're not.
- 52:41Speaker 3: Ready for it.
- 52:42Speaker 9: With trust in political institutions at an all time low,
- 52:46Speaker 9: reliable public interest information needs to be easier to find,
- 52:50Speaker 9: not harder. That's one of the key findings of our
- 52:53Speaker 9: twenty twenty six report on Strengthening the UK's Democratic Information Environment.
- 52:59Speaker 9: The report defies real concrete harms public disengagement, community tensions,
- 53:05Speaker 9: a growing erosion of trust in the institution that hold
- 53:08Speaker 9: democracy together, and a widening gap between reliable information and
- 53:13Speaker 9: people's ability to find and trust it. UK's response pretty fragmented.
- 53:19Speaker 9: Responsibilities are spread across too many bodies. There's no system
- 53:23Speaker 9: for cutting through uncertainty when it matters. The report sets
- 53:28Speaker 9: out four things that need to change. First, secure the
- 53:32Speaker 9: information ecosystem. Accurate information needs to spread faster than confusion,
- 53:38Speaker 9: especially when the stakes are highest. Second, strengthen public resilience.
- 53:43Speaker 9: People need to know where to find reliable information and
- 53:46Speaker 9: how to recognize it when they find it. Third, modernize
- 53:51Speaker 9: laws and institutions. They need to be clear, coordinated, and
- 53:55Speaker 9: fast enough to actually respond in real time. Four hold platforms,
- 54:01Speaker 9: search engines, and AI systems accountable for how they shape
- 54:05Speaker 9: the information environment. We can't turn back the clock, so
- 54:10Speaker 9: we need to build systems that work in the world
- 54:12Speaker 9: we actually live in. The decisions made now will determine
- 54:15Speaker 9: whether future elections are defined by confusion and mistrust or
- 54:20Speaker 9: by clarity, confidence, and democratic resilience.
- 54:27Speaker 3: Short statement in that clip member so important because, of
- 54:32Speaker 3: course full Fact has been operating ever since the Leveson
- 54:35Speaker 3: Inquiry into the media in order to help gain government
- 54:39Speaker 3: control over the media. It says it's there for free speech,
- 54:43Speaker 3: but everything it does is about closing free speech down.
- 54:47Speaker 3: I was particularly taken with this comment the public disengagement
- 54:52Speaker 3: was a failure. I don't think public disengagement is a failure.
- 54:55Speaker 3: It's actually a success story. It shows that the public
- 55:00Speaker 3: capable of thinking independently, and they're switching off from this
- 55:04Speaker 3: propaganda and bias of the BBC and the other state
- 55:08Speaker 3: controlled media, so full fat, very very dangerous, and they
- 55:12Speaker 3: are pushing the same policy that Levison is now back
- 55:17Speaker 3: pushing as he attacks juries, getting rid of juries from court.
- 55:23Speaker 3: And of course the next step is the constitution, which
- 55:27Speaker 3: that man says is about modernizing the systems which may
- 55:32Speaker 3: effectively make decisions. This is an organization making out it's
- 55:37Speaker 3: about free speech and protecting free speech, but actually it
- 55:41Speaker 3: is about helping to implement control of speech via centralized government.
- 55:46Speaker 1: Absolutely and very much dictating the policy agenda. Right.
- 55:50Speaker 2: So that was Chris Morris, CEO of Full Fact, former
- 55:53Speaker 2: BBC guy, talking about their latest report. Can get up
- 55:56Speaker 2: on screen you can see the Full Fact Report twenty
- 55:59Speaker 2: twenty six. Will provide a link in the show notes
- 56:01Speaker 2: you can go and read it for yourself. That landed
- 56:03Speaker 2: three weeks ago. One of its key recommendations is the
- 56:05Speaker 2: elevation of reliable public interest information. And then would you know,
- 56:10Speaker 2: like two weeks ago, so like a week later, this
- 56:13Speaker 2: comes out from central Government what's this space and new
- 56:16Speaker 2: strategic direction for UK media, a green paper and public consultation,
- 56:20Speaker 2: so they're actually looking for responses. Again, we'll provide a
- 56:23Speaker 2: link so you should go and reply to the questions
- 56:25Speaker 2: in this and one of the key recommendations or things
- 56:28Speaker 2: that they're exploring in here is the idea that we
- 56:32Speaker 2: need to give more prominence to trustworthy news. So this
- 56:37Speaker 2: is exactly what Chris Morris was just talking about. We
- 56:39Speaker 2: need to elevate public service broadcasters. We need to invest
- 56:42Speaker 2: in new media literacy and provide it and make that
- 56:46Speaker 2: a duty for public service broadcasters to indoctrinate the population
- 56:54Speaker 2: into only accepting truth coming from official channels and then
- 56:58Speaker 2: to do it and to a new joint initiative to
- 57:02Speaker 2: promote media literacy. So the main public broadcast is BBC,
- 57:06Speaker 2: ITV channel five, Channel four are going to come together
- 57:09Speaker 2: to coordinate around this. And this has blown up over
- 57:14Speaker 2: the past few days primarily because of this issue of
- 57:18Speaker 2: pushing BBC and other formal official content into people's timelines
- 57:23Speaker 2: to the detriment of everyone else, including organizations like UK
- 57:26Speaker 2: column and interestingly, the establishment scenes have broken ranks on
- 57:31Speaker 2: this front because we were sent this and all YouTube
- 57:33Speaker 2: channel owners were sent this over the weekend, essentially saying
- 57:37Speaker 2: that the YouTube is always operated on the principle that
- 57:40Speaker 2: creators should have a fair shot, but these new UK
- 57:43Speaker 2: proposals would change that. So YouTube is even coming out
- 57:46Speaker 2: and saying that they don't want this, which is quite extraordinary.
- 57:49Speaker 2: So lots of pressure coming from full fact that appears
- 57:52Speaker 2: to be flown directly into policy. Lots of pressure going
- 57:55Speaker 2: towards Burnham at the moment. So actually this came out
- 57:58Speaker 2: just a couple of days after he delivered is a
- 58:01Speaker 2: big speech in Manster last week. Dozens of organizations burned
- 58:05Speaker 2: to strengthen online safety laws, big list of people guesses
- 58:09Speaker 2: on it, full factor on it obviously, as well as
- 58:12Speaker 2: the and on the Online Safety Act Network, which is
- 58:16Speaker 2: basically set up by the people who wrote the Online
- 58:19Speaker 2: Safety Act. They then went on to set up a
- 58:20Speaker 2: network of which most of these organizations apart Institute who
- 58:24Speaker 2: Strategic Dialogue are clocked on there as well. Hope Not
- 58:26Speaker 2: Hate further down the list, Demos further down the list,
- 58:29Speaker 2: all the same names that we would expect trying to
- 58:32Speaker 2: lock down debate, anding enforced an establishment narrative.
- 58:36Speaker 3: When you know where to look, you can see them.
- 58:39Speaker 3: Everything is there, hidden in plain sight. It's just understanding
- 58:43Speaker 3: the rules, the nuances of what you're looking for, and
- 58:46Speaker 3: when you get on this trail, you are then starting
- 58:49Speaker 3: to see what the real political agenda is and where
- 58:52Speaker 3: everything is coming from. So Westminster Debate, that's just absolute
- 58:58Speaker 3: popets show to keep people believing that system works.
- 59:04Speaker 1: But it's this.
- 59:05Speaker 3: Corporate public private partnership with the corporate powers that's now
- 59:11Speaker 3: producing the policies. A little bit of a dark human
- 59:16Speaker 3: note to end the news, but I came across this
- 59:20Speaker 3: organization Hold the Line at the end of last week
- 59:23Speaker 3: and this is the Labor Party getting very, very worried
- 59:26Speaker 3: at the high churn of prime ministers and in particular
- 59:30Speaker 3: Burnham coming into post without really any consultation of labor members.
- 59:36Speaker 3: So this organization is saying, if you're a labor member,
- 59:40Speaker 3: pay attention, get onto your local MP and say members
- 59:45Speaker 3: views and opinions need to be taken into account. This
- 59:48Speaker 3: made me laugh because of course Burnham's not going to it,
- 59:53Speaker 3: is not interested in hearing what local labor members think.
- 59:57Speaker 3: He's too busy with his globalist policy. But it is
- 1:00:01Speaker 3: sadly amusing to see these people attempting to do something
- 1:00:06Speaker 3: after the horse has bolted into the prime ministership as
- 1:00:10Speaker 3: it were. Now I'm going to end on a serious note,
- 1:00:13Speaker 3: and that is there were a number of reports over
- 1:00:18Speaker 3: the last week, and a bit about the fat met
- 1:00:21Speaker 3: Police could be forced to reopen four thousand grooming gang
- 1:00:25Speaker 3: cases dating back sixteen years. Note the headline anything to
- 1:00:30Speaker 3: do with child abuse is to do with grooming gangs. Well,
- 1:00:34Speaker 3: this is not true. It's absolutely not true. I'll just
- 1:00:38Speaker 3: pop ifout Cooper, Home Secretary on screen here because this
- 1:00:43Speaker 3: is a few words of her talking about government's attention
- 1:00:48Speaker 3: to protecting children, and then I'll ends that off with
- 1:00:51Speaker 3: a comment from UK column. But here's about Cooper.
- 1:00:56Speaker 10: So we will introduce new laws to protect children and
- 1:01:00Speaker 10: support victims so they stop being blamed for the appalling
- 1:01:03Speaker 10: crimes committed against them. New major police operations to pursue
- 1:01:08Speaker 10: perpetrators and put them behind bars. New national inquiry to
- 1:01:12Speaker 10: direct local investigations and hold institutions to account for past failures.
- 1:01:17Speaker 10: New ethnicity data and research so we face up to
- 1:01:20Speaker 10: the facts on exploitation and abuse. New action across children's
- 1:01:24Speaker 10: services and other agencies to identify children at risk, and
- 1:01:28Speaker 10: further action to support child victims and tackle the new
- 1:01:32Speaker 10: forms of exploitation and abuse online. Taken together, this will
- 1:01:37Speaker 10: mark the biggest program of work ever pursued. To root
- 1:01:41Speaker 10: out the scourge of grooming gangs and child sexual exploitation.
- 1:01:46Speaker 10: Those vile perpetrators who have grown used to the authorities
- 1:01:50Speaker 10: looking the other way must have no place to hide.
- 1:01:57Speaker 3: Well, the only thing she said that was true there
- 1:02:00Speaker 3: authorities looking the other way must have no place to hide.
- 1:02:04Speaker 3: This is a pertinent comment because the reality is it's
- 1:02:07Speaker 3: the very authorities which should be protecting children which have
- 1:02:11Speaker 3: not only been involved in the abuse, but they've been
- 1:02:14Speaker 3: helping the cover up. And I can tell our audience
- 1:02:18Speaker 3: that there is a lot happening behind the scenes to
- 1:02:22Speaker 3: do with evidence that's coming to the surface, which takes
- 1:02:26Speaker 3: us back to the abuses around Elm Guesthouse and Dolphin Square,
- 1:02:31Speaker 3: where it's absolutely apparent that the authorities across the board.
- 1:02:36Speaker 3: So we're talking the government, we're talking local authorities, and
- 1:02:40Speaker 3: we're certainly talking the police were not only involved in
- 1:02:43Speaker 3: the abuse of children, they were involved in the cover
- 1:02:47Speaker 3: up of any exposure as to what was actually happening,
- 1:02:50Speaker 3: and that cover up also included threatening witnesses coming forward. Now,
- 1:02:56Speaker 3: we very much hope that in the coming weeks UK
- 1:03:00Speaker 3: column is going to report be able to report more
- 1:03:02Speaker 3: detail about just what's been happening under the surface. A
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: documentation I've seen over the last week in particular, demonstrates
- 1:03:12Speaker 3: that the police is just one example, absolutely involved in
- 1:03:16Speaker 3: the abuse of children and involved in the cover up,
- 1:03:20Speaker 3: not least by helping to warn off other police and
- 1:03:24Speaker 3: of the witnesses bringing these crimes to the surface. So
- 1:03:28Speaker 3: the big lie for the government will always be the
- 1:03:31Speaker 3: only abuse is grooming gangs, whereas the truth is that
- 1:03:35Speaker 3: the abuse of the children goes through the system of
- 1:03:38Speaker 3: government itself. I have to end on there. But as
- 1:03:42Speaker 3: soon as the UK column has got more material that
- 1:03:44Speaker 3: we are given permission to share with our audience, we
- 1:03:48Speaker 3: will do that.
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for that, Brian. That was an extraordinary statement
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: from a bit of cooper. It just strikes me as
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: about twenty years too late. Well, they've probably probably and
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: someone of that as well.
- 1:04:01Speaker 3: I think they all worried.
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: Ben.
- 1:04:03Speaker 3: I think you can see more and more research and
- 1:04:07Speaker 3: evidence is coming to the surface. And of course where
- 1:04:10Speaker 3: is that appearing. It isn't appearing on traditional media like
- 1:04:14Speaker 3: the BBC. It's appearing on social media, new media, alternative media,
- 1:04:20Speaker 3: and that's the target they want to close down because
- 1:04:23Speaker 3: that's where the danger is. The truth comes to the
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: surface where it can, so they want it silenced. It's
- 1:04:30Speaker 3: pretty obvious what these people are up to.
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: It certainly is. Okay, that's all we have time for today.
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: Thank you so much to everyone tuned in home here
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