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Is Odysseus The Hero Or The Villain Of The Odyssey??? (The Odyssey Spoiler Review & Reaction) · For All Nerds Show

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  Speaker 1: These burning these homes up, Like, what did they talk
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  Speaker 1: about Zusan's law? They are immediately setting fire to everything
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  Speaker 1: they see, and they're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Zeus's laws law. And then when I hear what Zeus's lawyers,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, where is it?
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  Speaker 3: Where is Thatsan's law? The ruin.
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  Speaker 2: And what's up y'all?
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  Speaker 1: tonight with a very special guest, one of the four
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  Speaker 2: Please introduce yourself, you know, one more time? What up y'all?
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  Speaker 3: This is John Luna aka the Sound God aka Johnny
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  Speaker 2: Day damn he tha okay aka.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not riding with the sidon the gods that those
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  Speaker 3: poor boats.
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  Speaker 1: Those poor boats, boy, Yeah, not riding with the sidon
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  Speaker 1: f for gotten.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about that one. Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: That was the one that I was gonna hate. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know it was the tha. I'm still not sure.
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  Speaker 1: I understand that when that one's just like flying right
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  Speaker 1: over my head right now.
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  Speaker 3: It's I have the word thick in if you have
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  Speaker 3: to explain it. It's not a good.
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  Speaker 2: But some people they might have been like, yo.
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  Speaker 3: Someone's lapping out there and to you, thank you, yes
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  Speaker 3: for me. You can get off. You can get off
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  Speaker 3: the floor now.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm also not going to say the gods because
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  Speaker 1: we are here to discuss Odyssey, the massive major IT
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  Speaker 1: movie out now sold out everywhere, Christopher Nolan with his
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  Speaker 1: latest epic joint in theaters now right off top.
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  Speaker 2: I'd say, go see this joint.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's my first you know, right away, I'd say,
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  Speaker 1: definitely go see it as big as screen as possible.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think it was made for what was the Imax.
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  Speaker 3: It was seventy millimeters, yeah, seventy milimeters.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They actually invented a new camera for it because Imax
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  Speaker 1: cameras are notoriously heavy and they make hella noise, so
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  Speaker 1: it's very hard to shoot dialogue. That's because the camera
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  Speaker 1: itself is making so much noise. So they invented a
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  Speaker 1: new camera so that they could shoot every shot in
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  Speaker 1: I'm at seventy millimeter and it shows you see it.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like when you're watching Centers and I guess
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  Speaker 1: one but after another was also shot on film. Because
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  Speaker 1: it's it's weird now that you have to say it,
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  Speaker 1: but so many films are not shot on film where
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  Speaker 1: when you actually see real film grain. I mean, in
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  Speaker 1: my screening, I saw where like one of the frames
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  Speaker 1: was burned out, you know, it was white burnout for
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  Speaker 1: a second. Yeah, it was quick, but I eat that. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't mind it. You know, it's like ooh,
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  Speaker 1: you know that's the film. Yeah, So it's definitely seventy
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  Speaker 1: milimeter film. Christopher Nolan, you know, and if you're a
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  Speaker 1: Christopher Nolan fan, definitely, which I am. I'm not like
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  Speaker 1: Christopher Nolan is God, you know, some people think, but
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  Speaker 1: I do think he is a great filmmaker, a great director.
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  Speaker 2: I've loved him since Memento.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's been one of my favorites since
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  Speaker 1: day one, since the first of I saw his work.
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  Speaker 2: And this is definitely one of my favorites of his.
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  Speaker 2: I would say.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he has he definitely has like a style,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You know, when You're watching
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  Speaker 3: Nolan's film and I've never seen it his Memento, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I never I've never seen it, but like I what, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I was introduced to Nolan with the Dark Night series.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, that's that's where I got into the Nolan verse.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, but have you seen The Prestige? I don't
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  Speaker 2: think so. I can't about The Magicians with Hugh Jackman
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  Speaker 2: and uh no, no I have not.
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  Speaker 1: You're about to be I mean those are just yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you need to watch those. Those are I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: Prestige and the Mento and the Proceige are going to
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  Speaker 1: f you up. Like yeah, but Memento and The Prestige, man,
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  Speaker 1: are just two really great films and two of his best.
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  Speaker 1: You know really, I would say, yeah, they're probably two
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  Speaker 1: of my favorites of his easily.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, cool, Yeah, yeah, definitely will check them out. I
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  Speaker 3: mean up, yeah, is that one of those? Is that
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  Speaker 3: one of those films where I need, like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like a watch it during the day.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's just is it gonna make me say?
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  Speaker 1: It's such an incredible twist and it's like when I
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  Speaker 1: rewatch it, I've forgotten part of the twist. And so
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  Speaker 1: it fucked me up again, you know when I saw it,
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  Speaker 1: because it's such an incredible twist and that's all I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you. And it is, and that was like why
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  Speaker 1: I knew when they started, when he got The Dark Knight,
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  Speaker 1: I was like when he got Batman begins, I was
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  Speaker 1: I was like, yes, you know, and he's going to
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  Speaker 1: do it, And then he did, and that's what turned
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  Speaker 1: him into you know, the big dog that he is today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well we definitely see like all of like his
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  Speaker 3: you know, time and film coming to this point with
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  Speaker 3: the Odyssey and his and his telling of it. Definitely
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  Speaker 3: as like somebody who you know you've read that you've
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  Speaker 3: read the Odyssey. I've read the Odyssey. Well you've read
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  Speaker 3: the Odyssey.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Yes, I do believe I've read it. I took
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  Speaker 1: Latin for two years this phull disclosure in high school.
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  Speaker 1: I took Latin for two years, and I think we
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  Speaker 1: read at least parts of it in Latin. I've definitely
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  Speaker 1: read it. You know, I knew the story going in.
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  Speaker 1: I knew all about it. I knew how long he took. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I do remember, I mean his high school has
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  Speaker 1: been a long time, folks. But I do remember I
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  Speaker 1: think I did read it in Latin, so.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, damn in Latin. Yeah, I'm a dork.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that's that's awesome. But it like that's a
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  Speaker 3: that's a story to read, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I like same as you not in Latin.
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  Speaker 3: That's like one of the first you know, you know,
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  Speaker 3: you got your Lord of the Rings, you got your
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  Speaker 3: your your fantasy stories, but this is like the one
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  Speaker 3: of the fantasy stories, and for me personally, like one
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  Speaker 3: of the When I got out of this film, literally
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  Speaker 3: the first thing I thought was like I got I
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  Speaker 3: got in my car, and I was like that mother
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  Speaker 3: for Homer wrote a damn poem, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Like his epic was It's just like how how old
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  Speaker 3: old is this?
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  Speaker 2: Now?
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  Speaker 3: Like a three thousand year old you know story that
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  Speaker 3: they just keep you know, it's classic, like it stands
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  Speaker 3: the test of time. And now we were lucky enough
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  Speaker 3: to get Nolan's version of it.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I mean to say it influenced scenes is just understating
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  Speaker 1: it a bit, because it's you know, it is the Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it is.
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  Speaker 2: It is the influence of everything.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the homework tale, you know, the epic tale,
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  Speaker 1: the epic Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I got out.
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  Speaker 3: This is the Game of Thrones, like this is the
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  Speaker 3: this is the throne that they're fighting for, you know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean, the Home of Ithaca like that, like
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  Speaker 3: this is the you got everything in it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it all comes from this.
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  Speaker 1: So and a lot of Nolan's stories have been very homework,
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  Speaker 1: you know, stories and tales.
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  Speaker 2: So this was him, you know, really get into the
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  Speaker 2: essence of it.
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  Speaker 1: You definitely, you know, experienced odyesty, probably more than me.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, I know the story. I knew that
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  Speaker 1: this man took forever to get home. I knew all
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  Speaker 1: the trials and tribulations.
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  Speaker 2: That he did.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would say, like, you know, I already
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  Speaker 1: said I loved the film, right, I loved everyone in it.
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  Speaker 1: I thought the thing, the script writing, everything was pretty exceptional.
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  Speaker 1: There was a you know, some goofy moments was saying
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  Speaker 1: script like Matt Damon saying I'm bringing it all, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was a I think he I
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  Speaker 3: think he even said at one point like we're going
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  Speaker 3: fucking home or something like that, and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I'll let it pass.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's Matt Damon, It's Matt Damon.
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  Speaker 1: But I also thought Matt Damon was really dopenness because
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  Speaker 1: you see him as the young Odysseus where he starts
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  Speaker 1: out and he's very you know, wise practicing, you know,
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  Speaker 1: witty and all this stuff, and then you know, this
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  Speaker 1: journey wears on this.
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  Speaker 2: Man and in a horrible way, and so so many men.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so by the when he comes home, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like this man is broken and you see that
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  Speaker 1: through Matt Damon's acting. So yeah, I know he's going
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  Speaker 1: to be nominated for Best Actor, and I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he deserves it, and.
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  Speaker 3: I there's like little I mean, I'm with I'm with
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  Speaker 3: you as well. Like I to be honest, it took
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  Speaker 3: me a minute to get used to Tom Halls Telemach
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  Speaker 3: Telemachus his son, but it took me a while to
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  Speaker 3: warm up to his character. I will also say that
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  Speaker 3: I also when after I read The Odyssey in high school,
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  Speaker 3: I was exposed to the ninety seven. Uh it was
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  Speaker 3: a it was a TV series. It starred armand de Sante,
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  Speaker 3: and that one I actually think had it was a
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  Speaker 3: little bit more wild and gory because they were Nolan
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  Speaker 3: used a lot of like practical effects, like as y
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  Speaker 3: as Time has gone on, there's there's there's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of practical effects, but like for me specifically, like, for example,
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  Speaker 3: the scene on Circe's Island, the scene that I saw
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  Speaker 3: from the ninety seven series, I'm like, man, if they
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  Speaker 3: had done it that way, oh, it would have been
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  Speaker 3: real crazy. They still did a really awesome way of
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  Speaker 3: like the with you know, with the animal morphing and
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  Speaker 3: all that. But yeah, so I had this like thing
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  Speaker 3: that I was comparing to the entire time of this,
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  Speaker 3: this ninety seven telling of it. But the practical effects,
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  Speaker 3: my god, and reading more about like as Time is
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  Speaker 3: going on, I don't I don't know if you saw,
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  Speaker 3: but like they're even they were using actual like giants
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  Speaker 3: like to that point, you know, they were using like
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  Speaker 3: folks over seven feet tall.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Matt Damon stunt double was a very
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  Speaker 1: short woman.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, for a certain scenes.
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  Speaker 1: So that they could get those giants and yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: uh and the giants and the perspective and all that.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the same tricks that they were using.
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  Speaker 1: In Lord of the Rings especially, They've had a lot
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  Speaker 1: of perspective shots and that and that's why that was
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  Speaker 1: such an incredible film.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even know going in how much of it.
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  Speaker 1: Was practical effects. You know, I thought the side clops
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  Speaker 1: was CGI. Come to find out he's an animatronic big
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  Speaker 1: ass puppet. Yeah, it just a big ass puppet, so
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  Speaker 1: puppet with CGI added and stuff.
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  Speaker 2: To kind of polish it out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So I thought that was you know, I
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  Speaker 1: thought all the effects look great. I think the film
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  Speaker 1: looks incredible. Nolan, you know, does all that very well.
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  Speaker 1: That's like goes without saying I don't think you have
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  Speaker 1: to say that. You know, Nolan knows how to shoot films.
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  Speaker 1: Some of the issues that I did have with it
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  Speaker 1: before I get into like the stuff I really thought
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  Speaker 1: was really ill about it was that it's the typical
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  Speaker 1: with Nolan films. And this is also people pointed out
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  Speaker 1: to Odyssey. It's very much to do with the women
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  Speaker 1: like Anne Hathaway probably gets the most to do, and
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  Speaker 1: even she comes off kind of as a damsel in
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  Speaker 1: distress who's just trying to sit around.
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  Speaker 2: Like, oh, what to do. I don't know what to do.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what you do, but.
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  Speaker 1: You're supposed to the queen and all this, and then
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  Speaker 1: at the end, you know, she pops up and starts like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, has her one little moment where she shuts.
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  Speaker 2: The made out. Yeah, and it was like all right.
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  Speaker 1: And then the egregious one for me was Charlie's staron
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  Speaker 1: and her.
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  Speaker 2: Character and she played Calypso.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Calypso, because it's just she's basically a plot device,
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  Speaker 1: like she just sits there and it's like, tell me
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  Speaker 1: your story, you know, for half of a movie, so
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  Speaker 1: you can flash back, yeah, and then you know he's like,
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  Speaker 1: oh shit, I remember my wife, I'm out, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So those are some of the things that like in
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  Speaker 3: the like I had comparisons to from not not just
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  Speaker 3: the book, but from that ninety seven series. Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they actually didn't tell a lot of stories. The one
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  Speaker 3: thing that they did tell was they did that stop
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  Speaker 3: with the the Lestragonians. Is the name of those giants?
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  Speaker 2: Giants?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that I don't I don't think they did that
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  Speaker 3: in any of the series. And obviously it was in
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  Speaker 3: the book, but like I don't remember it in detail.
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  Speaker 2: But like that, I would have liked to see.
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  Speaker 3: More of and and the stuff with Calypso. I feel
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  Speaker 3: like in other tellings have has been explained more because
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  Speaker 3: like what you're saying, you know, all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 3: he's like, oh, time to go, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and movies almost over, movies almost over.
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  Speaker 3: And and she even says, she's like, you know, I've
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  Speaker 3: had you here for all this time. You know, your
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  Speaker 3: heart is and your mind and your heart is like
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  Speaker 3: subconsciously building a raft like trying to leave. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: but like I feel like, I feel like they didn't
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  Speaker 3: explain that.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 3: One thing that I I that was missing from this
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  Speaker 3: was the bag of winds. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 3: remember that. I believe in the very early telling of
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  Speaker 3: the story, when they leave Troy, they see Ithaca. They
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  Speaker 3: go to an island, they get, you know, one of
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  Speaker 3: the many islands, but they receive a bag of wind,
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  Speaker 3: and the and the person that gives them the wind
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  Speaker 3: is like, open this when you see Ithaca and blow
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  Speaker 3: it into your sails. What happens is they blow themselves
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  Speaker 3: off course, because that was the one thing Odysseus was
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  Speaker 3: not supposed to tell anybody what was in the bag,
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  Speaker 3: And so they.
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  Speaker 2: Were like, what's in the bag, what's in the bag,
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  Speaker 2: What's in the bag.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, chill, chill, chill, and that's how in the
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  Speaker 3: that's one of the stories that that was missing. So
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  Speaker 3: I thought that was interesting because I think they replaced
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  Speaker 3: it with Agamemnon going one way and Odysseus going we'll
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  Speaker 3: take a shortcut or well, well we'll see, we'll see
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  Speaker 3: the land, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, and okay, and that's going to get into where
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  Speaker 1: I one thing that I really loved about this film, right,
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  Speaker 1: and it took me a while sitting back and think
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  Speaker 1: about it, because I think that's that was my one
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  Speaker 1: criticism is that the film is definitely, you know, very
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  Speaker 1: much a Nolan film where it's.
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  Speaker 2: Men doing men things, you know, and.
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  Speaker 1: There's just not much anything to do with the women.
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  Speaker 1: And Calypso in particular really suffers from this. Like I thought,
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  Speaker 1: Lupita's character, you know, she's barely in the film for
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  Speaker 1: all the hate and you know flame that she caught. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I think she does great with the time that
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  Speaker 1: she does have the same as with Anne Hathaway.
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  Speaker 2: I think Charlie's theirn.
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  Speaker 1: Looks, I mean just absolutely stunning, but you know, God,
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  Speaker 1: they could have given her something to do because they
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  Speaker 1: really don't. Are there any other women there's I mean Circe,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure to act for Okay, so yeah, sirc
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  Speaker 1: I gotta say.
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  Speaker 3: She is the actress from The Walking Dead, one of
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  Speaker 3: the one of the later seasons. She is one of
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  Speaker 3: the Whisperers. She is the ship Ben. She's Alpha. She's
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: Alpha Ben. When I saw her on screen, I got
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  Speaker 3: chills because I that impacted me so much in the series.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that bro. That impacted me.
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  Speaker 3: So much that seeing her in any film now, I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like I am.
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  Speaker 1: Watched to win the Whisperers came, but I know from
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  Speaker 1: the book and I know Alpha from the books.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she is.
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  Speaker 3: What brought me back to like the Walking Dead series
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  Speaker 3: because like it fell off for a while, you know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean. But like, oh my man, she killed
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  Speaker 3: that that that role I could hear, like, oh man,
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  Speaker 3: perfect casting there for her, for her with Circe and
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  Speaker 3: the and the obviously the the the practical effects there
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  Speaker 3: were with with the animals.
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  Speaker 1: Changing, absolutely incredible. Oh yeah, Zendaya as Athena Zendas Athena.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she was.
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  Speaker 3: She was actually in it probably. I feel like in
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  Speaker 3: the other tellings, like she's pretty apparent, but like this one,
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  Speaker 3: it's like you said it was like a man's you know,
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  Speaker 3: man's world type of it's like, you.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Know, here's beautiful Asa and you know, guiding this white
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: man through his life.
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: And that just they did.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: I did like how they did Athena though, that was
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: pretty true. Like Athena just you know, constantly being like Odysseus,
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: what the fuck are you doing?
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah doing?
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: And he's not listening because he's so focused on, you know,
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: what he thinks is the right thing, right. He just
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: wants to get home, and he wants to get as
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: many people home, which which also I'm never really sure
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: how many. Like I guess he had an army with him,
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: like from Ithaca, like he had like he must have had.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Like a hundred dudes because he was losing bodies. I
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: mean he lost two boats, you know, yeah, full of dudes.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: So that's at least that's how fifty people each boat.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: He probably had more of them, but yeah, yeah, more
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: than a hundred. That's but that's what gets into like
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: I say, because we got to you know, what we dislike,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: what we like now what I really loved, and this
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: is something going back to that agamenmon moment, is I
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: don't think he wanted to go home.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and you know, and that's.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: I think why the Bag of Wins isn't in this,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: because it's more about that the fact that the like,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: when I sat and thought about it, I'm like, okay, Odysseus,
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: And that's why I really liked because this is one
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: of those films is kind of like Infinity War where
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: it's we're following the protagonist who's not the hero of
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: the story, you know, like Fanos is the protagonist. Odysseus
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: is the protagonist, and he's heroic, but he's, like I
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: was saying to Luna before we started, he's like a
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: golden trash bag, you know, amongst a bunch of other
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: trash bags, because he does not want to follow Agaminmon
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: anymore because Agamnmon.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Just set off the slaughter that he was a part of.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: That he violated Zeus's law to do and he knows that,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: and he's like, yo, I just.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Did this ship. I saw, you know, the statue of
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Athena fall.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: I saw the priestess of Athena and get slaughtered along
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: with everyone else.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: I've done nothing but dirt.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I can't follow this man and these dudes I'm with
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: are kind of you know, they trash. They're trash. Like
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: as much as I don't want to admit it, they're trash.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: And I'm the golden trash bag because I'm the only
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: one who realizes with trash. But I'm still trash, you know. Yeah,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: should I bring the trash home? Yeah you should.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: I take a couple of laps around these islands and
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: see if they get murdered off you too, you know,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: because we deserve it. Like yeah, okay, yeah, I can
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: I can see that angle.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's exactly saying, you know, let's get
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: myself murdered in my grown murdered because he does want
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: to go home, but he's like I cannot follow and
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: anymore because Ed just went egg and I was part
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: of that, you know, So he's like, I cannot.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Deal with that anymore.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: So he's like, yo, I need you know, it's like
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: one of them when I was incarcerated, I did not
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: want to go home, you know, immediately, because it's like, yo,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I need to wash that stink off of me, you
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, you can't just go home.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: So it's like that's the same thing, like, you know,
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: you can't just.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Go home after being a war and especially having done
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: what I've done.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: And being like a like a like a major factors,
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: at least the way it's told here, like a major factor.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: And how many times did they say, like one of
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: the most brilliant men, one of the most you know, smart,
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: one of my smartest soldier, you know, the brains, Like.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: He came up with the plan, he came up with
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the Trojan horse and you know, slaughtered all these people. Yeah,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: and then it's even like he comes up with the
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Trojan horse. You know, he's this dude who's done all
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: this dirt the Zeus's law. And then the other part
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: of it was to see people. I thought that was
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: so ill Yeah, that was that was it was like
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: because and going back in the epic tales and everything.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: If anyone's ever read the Watchmen comic book, there's in
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: the Watchmen comic book there this was not in the movie,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: and it's barely referenced. I think they did an anime.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: They did an animated version of it that goes along
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: with the movie. But in the coma book there's a
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: little boy who's sitting there reading a comic book throughout
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Watchmen and the coma book he's reading. It is this
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: book called Tales of the Black Freighter, and it's a
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: horror comic book about this dude who goes out to
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: see with an army, goes on an adventure and is
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: just trying to get home and eventually does all kind
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: of horrible no, I mean, just horrible shit to get home.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: And then when he gets home, it's been transformed into
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: the monster that everyone's fearing that he was trying to stop.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: You know that he went out to stop in the
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: first place, right because you know it's what he's done.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: And so I thought that was, you know, a very
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: dope way of how they did this in this movie
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: where it's like, yo, you know, like could you see
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: it from the first shot when they first land on
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: the island. I was im meaningly, Yo, these niggas is
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: burning these niggas homes up, Like what did they talk
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: about Zusan's law? They are immediately setting fire to everything
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: they see, and they're talking about Zeus's laws.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Us is law, you know, like what the fuck is
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Zeus's law?
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: And then when I hear what Zeus's lawyer is, I'm like.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Where is it? Where is that.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Zus's Law in the room with us, and it's so funny.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: They constantly they constantly elaborated, like everyone else was like,
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: but Zeus's Law says, I gotta feed you know, the
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: strangers says, I gotta wash the you know, their feet,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: And then they flashed back to Troy. It's like fire,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: you know stones and you know.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but even before Troy, I mean after Troy. Like
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I say, when they first you know, when we first
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: see them, they come upon a random village and these
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: dudes are talk about to see people came through here
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: and they are burning their homes.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Why they're telling them this? And I'm like, you know,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: are we the baddies?
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: You know, that's immediately my thought because I'm like, hold, look,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: these dudes are I did not understand that part. Yeah,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: you know, I did not understand that, because like, these
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: dudes are burning these dudes home, but talking about give
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: us food and stuff, and then they go back to
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: their boats and move on. I'm like, Okay, I don't know.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Maybe those dudes for bad they need to burn their
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: homes up. But then, you know, as the story get progressive,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I'm no, these dudes just burn They're.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Just they're terrorists. Yeah, they're just trash.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: And so I thought that was, you know, very dope
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: because I didn't really get that, you know, like until
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I came home and sat and thought about, like, oh,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: this movie is telling the story about, you know, a
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: bunch of trash ass men, and it's like the men
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: are trash throughout it, you know, like Robert Pattinson's character
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: is trash.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: But look who he's you know, trying to replace. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: And I saw an interview with him and Anne Hathaway
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: and she was like, I hate hearing him talk about
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: his character. He's he starts to almost make sense because
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: Robert Pattson's like I'm the only one trying to help,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: like like I'm the only one trying to you know,
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: restore order, like like you know, she didn't ask us
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: to leave, Like I'm just I'm trying to just I'm
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: the only one, you know, making making moves. And and
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: I was like, damn, you know, she's not wrong, Like
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: he's starting to make a little sense, you know. I mean,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: it's not he was really good though, he was.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: He was, yeah, excellent. Robert Pattinson killed it killed it was.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: It was a line about the beggars.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Somebody, get these beggars out of here.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Take these beggars out of here. Let the beggars in.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a hlayer.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: He was really good Antonius.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: He's just like he's like a like a villainous comedy.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Like the whole time, you know what I mean. I
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: mean they're throwing the shields and the swords through the
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: whole was just yeah, yeah, this is like here in comedy.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: It this wain night.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so no, yeah, I did really and that,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: like I said, that's what I really did enjoy about
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: the film was that, you know, it's following this character
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: who is not exactly the hero, like he's.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: The best of the worst, but he knows he's the
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: best of the worst.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: And even in the end of it all, you know,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: he had exiles himself because it's other he knows, like
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: not only that I came home and slaughtered the wedding guests,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Like for all the slaughter and trifling shit I've done,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I came home and slaughtered people who were basically gets.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: In my home, right, right, yeah, no, you're you're right,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: And but quickly did you get I mean Agamemnon, I
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: just said, this is like a side step really quick
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: because we were talking about him earlier. But like I
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: I loved him, like the way he looked and the
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: like the persona, the yeah that he had until I
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: don't know it just I felt I felt like they
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: might have overdone that shot that like Agamemnon, you know,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: just mysterious, like like did you did you did you
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: get that or did you? Were you just like oh, yeah,
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: there he is every time.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: It wasn't all yeah, there he is every time, Like
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: people are you know, the whole all look at him
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: sending their om Yeah.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't. I didn't get any of that.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I thought he was more just like, okay, here's this
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: bitch who ain't doing ship, you know.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: And when the armor came off, I was like, he's
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: just like a little guy. He's a little guy. Yeah.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: And but I think that's the point of it, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: because I didn't get our farming. I'm like, oh, this
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: guy just stands back and let others do his dirty.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah it looks cool, you know why they do it?
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: So that's all I got from him. And then I
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: loved him getting served because it was like, you know,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: just like you know all of that. You you come
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: through all this, you do all that dirt, and then
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: you get served because you think you're actually the hero
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: of this story and you're the villain, right, no, bro?
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And and I mean we're jumping around from
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: scene to scene. But but that was another thing that
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: I kind of missed about this this telling of it,
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: because they really kept it like to Earth and and yeah,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Nolan's Odysseus literally just went from island to island, and
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: even even to go to to talk to the to
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: the dead, he had to go to another island and
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: in the and like in the story and in the
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: other others, it's like Odysseus actually like has to go
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: and like give the coins to the to the ferry
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: and cross the river of the Dead. And I feel like,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: I feel like Nolan's story was it was really epic looking,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: but I feel like it was missing a lot of
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: the fantastical, magical bits.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Of Yeah, and that's definitely been said because I know
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: in other retellings and even in the original, like the
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: gods are much more literal, like like Sidon is right there,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And so we don't
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: get to see any of that.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: This ain't flashing the Titans, right.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, That's why I liked Athena's parts a lot, because
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: like her just appearing was that like God goddess you know, ye,
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: that energy that she's always there, you know she can
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: be so yeah, so that was missing a little bit
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: for me.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: But I also liked that though too, because it's like,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: you know, when I love how it's like the moment
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: they pissed Posidon off, wam you know feel his wrath
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: of this ocean?
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like it was like, you know, a
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: little you're about to fly off the ship.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, calm season. It's like, oh, we feel beside his son.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: That was great.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: You don't need to joke beside and show up. It's just,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: you know, bro, did.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: That sound design of the cyclops scare the ship out?
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: You? That?
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: The the the deep gurgling noise that was happening in
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: that cave and.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: He was eating people was definitely.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Just was It was haunting, haunting, and if you can
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: make me feel so uncomfortable, I was like, I was like,
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: I can't wait to get out of this cave.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: I was again though, like that's what I'm sorry.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, throughout this movie as I'm watching it, I'm like, yeah,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I'll just rolled up in this man's house and try
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: to start eating his cheese.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Like what do you like? They're like, we're going to
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: greet him.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: You can greet him outside his crib. Bro, you don't
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: know whose house this is. That Like That's what I'm saying,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: is I'm watching him like these.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: The trash that let themselves in, started the fire, started
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: eating the cheese, wait for him to come back.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: And then it's also as for the great tactical leader,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: this man time of an idiot in that one. I
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: got to say that that was like one of the
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: dumbest scenes at least for him being, you know, the
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: great leader he is. How you're gonna roll into a
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: cave you don't know nothing, you don't even know scouts
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: outside nothing.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well he left it. I mean there were scouts,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: but they were all the way by the boat.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: And that was pretty much like every stop it was
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: everybody was too far.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, everybody is too far.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Imagine being the guys at every like there's gotta be
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: one soldier that was always like I'll stay at the
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: boat and every island it is just fewer people running
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: back screaming.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: I just want to go home.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: That was also one of my favorite parts of the
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: movie is the fact that every time they landed on
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: an island, they ran off and screaming. I think it's
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: three out of the four first islands, because only they
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: don't run off of circes, because they just did whipped
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: and walk off that joint.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And so that was another one where I was
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: trying to remember how in that scenario he he kind
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: of like was like a little bit of a detective work, right,
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: is that what happens because like in the in the
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: store in the original story, Hermes gives him a magical
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: herb to that that that stops him from being uh charmed.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I think that's how it does.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Remember, So that was like another thing like where I
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: was so apparent that they just weren't going to really
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: go hard on the magic and the mystery, and it
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: was like they made it more of like a human
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: thing to kind of go in and like notice things also.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: But when they showed the shot of the and she
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: was like, you know, put your armor and your swords
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: in the back, and they showed the shot of like
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: all the dead, you know, all the skeletons with the armor,
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: was like, damn, you're that hungry, like they were just
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: shut back on and go yeah, like trash once again,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: these guys are trash.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, what's you know, and they're like it,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: we'll just kill the shorty if anything, you know, we'll
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: kill her whatever.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Absolutely yeah yeah.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: And then no, no, and that was like, like I said,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I hadn't seen the other version where you said they
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: could have done it better, but you want to talk
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: about storming in your seat when you're watching this one.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: No, these guys are the man.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: The acting just so good. You're talking about when they're
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: eating the eating the ball.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and when they started when she starts shifting their
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: faces in the bigs that horrific, Like horrific, Yeah, yeah, horrific.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Also quick shout out to Ludwig Gorn.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Andson Ll the composer.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the man behind Black Panther, Child of Sambino,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: all kind of great joints. I don't think I listened
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: to this soundtrack outside of the movie because it's a
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: lot of like very discordant and you know, all fury. Yeah,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: but in the movie it worked fantastic.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, oh yeah, I forgot he did it.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: But yep, Love with Again also centers, you know. Yeah,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: so I think that's about for me.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah. I had two things. One is that it
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: took me so it did take me a little bit
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: of time to get accustomed to and we spoke about
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: a little bit earlier. But like the modern language, like
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: like it took me a minute to get over that
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: there was there weren't really any accents. There weren't really
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: any you know. Matt Damon's like a white dude Odysseus,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: you know, like these are you know, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: and then I don't know, it's just like John Barenthal,
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  Speaker 3: like he was he was a miss for me.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: He was he was Agamemnon's brother.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just maybe it's just something yeah, yeah,
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like he's he didn't change
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: he was he was.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: He was let me.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Like like yeah, like out of all the actors, I
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I don't know, John, You're kind of not.
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  Speaker 2: Doing it for me.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: But he's still it's still worked, you know, it's still
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: works worked.
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  Speaker 2: It worked.
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  Speaker 1: I think John just doesn't do it for me right now,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: just because of his you know, like just personally I'm
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: just saying.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, that's true. That's probably also like.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: He don't want to hear you.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, And seeing him close to Lupite was
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: even more disgusted.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean it worked though, because I was
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: disgusted by him. You were disgusted, right, Yeah, so it
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: did work well, you know. Yeah, I hated his character.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I was waiting for for Lupete to take a knife
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  Speaker 1: in his chest, just like you did it brag, but yeah,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: unfortunately not.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: So, and then the other thing that I have here
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: is we got another another one goes in the books
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: of the Matt Damon trying to get home genre Wow,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: the one. He's trying to get home. He's trying to
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: get Martian. Martian, he's trying to get back to Heaven
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: and Dogma. He's he's trying to get back home an interstellar.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: He tries, he like tries to, you know, take the ship.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wild that he has two different space I'm
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: trying to get home.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's that's funny.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: I didn't even realize that, but yeah, you're right the
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: marsh and I think he's trying to get home and
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: saving he's trying to get home and saving Private Ryan.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: He definitely is trying to get home and saving Private
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Ryan one. I was thinking good Will honey because that
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: was my first Matt Damon introduction. But no, no, he's no,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: he's trying to get away from home good one and
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Goodwill honey.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: That's the other category, trying to leave. I'm sure he
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: has a few of those too, if we put it,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: I just I just love it. Man, that's just such
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: a that's such a meme, now, you know what I mean?
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: What's he doing and it departed getting murdered?
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like he's I think he's staying put.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: How do you say that, Latin Ben? I don't know,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: but I think that's it for our I thoroughly enjoyed it.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I think Luna thoroughly enjoyed it as well. Uh, definitely
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: go check it, you know, one of the best movies
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: of the summer. It's definitely like And that's other than
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: one last thing I will say about Nolan and everything.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: People always make him.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Out this this all tour, and I love that Nolan
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: doesn't that. You know, he loves big dumb movies just
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: as much as he loves very intelligent movies. But I'd
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: also think that his movies are nowhere near as intelligent
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: people think they are.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: You know, I think they're like they have to.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Look but yeah, yeah, strip wasn't. I think they're kind
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: of dumb. A lot of times are kind of basic,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Like even things like Tenant where people are like, oh
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: my god, I don't understand it when you watch it twice,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: pretty straightforward, and yeah I did. I can't, like I
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: had to watch twice, but when I watched second, I'm like,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: oh man, I'm straightforward. Yeah, it's you know, pretty simple
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: and the same thing like me Mento, you'll probably have
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: to watch twice. And if you watch twice, you're like, oh, okay,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I get it. You know, the same thing. But it's
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: just not that complex. And I don't think this one is.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: This is right a though, you know, this is like
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: a very beautiful, dumb movie about some dudes trying to
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: get home.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then my word on it is like, uh,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: I'm really glad that that Tom Holland was exposed to
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: like a real film, because I don't know, if you've
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: been following him and his journey troubles, the MCU must
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: not be real film, like like like like for for
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: most actors, because he learned a lot and like you
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: were explaining about the camera.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: And and how they had to they had.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Different ember he's young, so he's yeah, right, most actors don't,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: especially if you're of a certain age. I have never
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: shot anything on film. It's just very rare nowadays. It's crazy,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it's very rare. Like yeah, and you know
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: I've shot mess up on film and yeah, film, you know,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: film runs out.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, It's just one of those things where it was
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: like that that mixed with all the like the information
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: we're getting about like how practical it was, the prospective
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: shots everything, It's like it keeps hope alive that like
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: we're still striving for like real good movies like like Blockbusters.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: And that's why another reason why I do love Nolan
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: so much, because he was one of the people who
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: champion centers so heavy, because you know, he held private
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: screenings for people because he wanted him to vote for
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: it for the Oscars.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: That's how much he was pushing it.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: So yeah, so I really love Nolan because he will
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: champion movies to deserve it. He loves it all and
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: he'll put his name behind everything and so that's why
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: I really mess with him and anyone who bigs up Centers,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: which is another one of those great films Like you
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: said that you know, put art and technical artistry on forefront. Yeah,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I love to see it, and that's why I also
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: loved this.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so just like these films, Sinners and Nolan's honesty,
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: like you can feel it, you can feel the love
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: for film from these actors and the crew that make it.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: And I love that Nolan and both Nolan and Cooler
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: are putting that out there and they're like inspiring young filmmakers. Yes,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: because that was me, you know, like I came up
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: on people like George Lucas where I absorbed everything he
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: talked about because I was just like, this is who
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I want to be like, and I want to know
• 38:06
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• 38:08
  Speaker 1: to see this because I watch all the little things
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: at Coogler and Nolan talk about now because it's the
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: same way even at this age, I still love learning
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: everything I can about film.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: So yeah, very inspiring.
• 38:19
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