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Wander the World – Travel trends for 2026 · Wander the World with Pippa Hudson

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Speaker 1: We are taking a look today at travel trends for
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, having a look at what some of
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Speaker 1: the experts are saying that they're seeing emerging in terms
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Speaker 1: of where people are wanting to go, what kinds of
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Speaker 1: experience they are wanting to have, what is shifting in
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Speaker 1: the way we travel, the way we plan our travel,
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Speaker 1: and more so, we're going to be taking a look
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Speaker 1: at some of the off the radar destinations you might
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Speaker 1: want to consider, and some of the ways of personalizing
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Speaker 1: your retreats and to help us navigate all of that.
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Speaker 1: It's a pleasure to welcome back to studio. Travel writer
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Speaker 1: and publicist Alison Foto. We chat to regularly about her
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Speaker 1: round the world travels and she has been taking a
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Speaker 1: closer look at some of these big trends emerging into
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Great to have you back with us again.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 1: What's on your travel rate off of this year? Do
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Speaker 1: you know yet?
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Speaker 2: I do.
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Speaker 3: I'm doing Shamwari, so I've got a Safari coming in
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Speaker 3: next month, okay, and then my husband and I are
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Speaker 3: doing a personal trip to Lisbon, Milan portor Paris for
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Speaker 3: our thirty fifth wedding animents congratulations age revealed right there.
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Speaker 1: Problem looking great for us and traveling well for so
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Speaker 1: why not? Okay, while you mentioning Shamwari, we had a
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Speaker 1: conversation in book club on Friday about the story behind
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Speaker 1: Shamwari and the amazing transformation of that landscape. If you
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Speaker 1: missed it, please go and look for the podcast on
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Speaker 1: Primedia plus dot com because it was just fascinating learning
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Speaker 1: how what was farmland was completely rewilded to create that
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Speaker 1: very special reserve which remains on most of our bucket
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Speaker 1: lists as lucky you. Okay, so a mix there of
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Speaker 1: African bush destinations and real sort of cosmopolitan European yes,
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Speaker 1: nexting it up, yeah, which is a fabinist I'd love
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Speaker 1: to do, particularly the African bush though the destinations do
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Speaker 1: seem to be one of the emerging trends that people
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Speaker 1: are looking to travel a little bit closer to home,
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Speaker 1: certainly from South Africa, and the rest of the world
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Speaker 1: is also starting to eye this part of the world.
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Speaker 2: But totally so.
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Speaker 3: To the last point, UK United States are really the
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Speaker 3: big long haul destination areas where people are coming in
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Speaker 3: in their droves. The percentages are way up, but you know,
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Speaker 3: you say Safari and sort of off the grid, off
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Speaker 3: the beaten track. So I mean you don't even have
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Speaker 3: to go into Africa.
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Speaker 2: You can start off right.
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Speaker 3: Here when it's in the Cedarberg where I just spent
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Speaker 3: some time a week at Enjoy Nature Farm and there
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Speaker 3: was the off grid situation, no Wi Fi at your cottage.
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Speaker 3: So with the disconnected is real, you have to you
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Speaker 3: can go to the farmhouse.
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Speaker 2: And get you caught up.
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Speaker 3: But literally you are in the books painted I did things,
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Speaker 3: I read magazines covered to cover, like when did that
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Speaker 3: last happen?
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Speaker 2: Some of the thing.
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Speaker 3: I'm so attention deficit, you know, with I splicking to
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Speaker 3: the gadget, what if I missed timed thing?
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Speaker 2: But really is you know, people are wanting.
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Speaker 3: To go places where they can have AI assistance maybe
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Speaker 3: on a working out a trip, but it's like tech
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Speaker 3: for that, but then detached from the tech for the rest.
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Speaker 3: So the low tech travel once you're in the place
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Speaker 3: or once you've arrived.
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Speaker 1: So use the tech to help you plan to the
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Speaker 1: end degree and then leave it behind or lock it
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Speaker 1: away and don't access it while you're there. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's that's a real sort of investment in one's mental
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Speaker 1: health to have that kind of breakaway totally. On that note,
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Speaker 1: health and wellness travel is I mean, it's a trend
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Speaker 1: that's been emerging for several years already, but it's really
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Speaker 1: having its moment, isn't.
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Speaker 2: Yes so true what you say.
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Speaker 3: I mean, we've been talking about that for a long time,
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Speaker 3: you know, disconnecting and it's the digital detops. It's a
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Speaker 3: bit of an overplayed strap line, you know a lot
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Speaker 3: of the time. But to be told, wellness travel is
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Speaker 3: less about the spars and those types of things are
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Speaker 3: more about resetting yourself and the call to that is
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Speaker 3: just in nature.
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Speaker 2: I mean, we spoke recently about crut Boss. Yes, the
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Speaker 2: forest bathing. I mean there you.
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Speaker 3: Leave your phone behind and you literally are walking. All
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Speaker 3: you've got is the sound of the trees, the birds,
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Speaker 3: got you run your hand of a moss.
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Speaker 2: It's textured, it's quite.
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Speaker 3: Meditational, and you've got a guide talking softly about the things.
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Speaker 2: And you know, explaining the environment.
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Speaker 3: It really is quite special. It drops quite deep and
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Speaker 3: you do. Definitely it impacts you. For me at a cellular.
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Speaker 1: Level, absolutely, there's something that touches inside of us.
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Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 1: Next week's episode, we're taking a look at Bliss and
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Speaker 1: Stars Wilderness Retreat in the Cedarberg, which sounds like incredibly
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Speaker 1: special version of what we're talking about here. So I
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Speaker 1: won't say more than that for now, except to say
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Speaker 1: that if you love the idea of going stargazing and
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Speaker 1: eating healthily and just having an absolute break from all
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Speaker 1: of the noise around us, and make sure you're listening
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Speaker 1: next week. Okay, So that's the wellness travel aspect for
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Speaker 1: those lucky enough to be able to afford luxury travel
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Speaker 1: and listen what are the trends emerging in that category,
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Speaker 1: because even that is having a bit of a shift
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Speaker 1: in terms of what people are looking for. It's not
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Speaker 1: so much about the big splash conspicuous, yes, over the
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Speaker 1: top everything. Yes, it's lovely to have some of that
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Speaker 1: if you are able to afford that, But what's happening
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Speaker 1: in the luxury space.
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Speaker 3: So luxuries really redefined itself, so as you say, less
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Speaker 3: about the excess and more about the authentic travel. But
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Speaker 3: with that I think wraps up into that is extending
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Speaker 3: your stays. As I think I mentioned earlier, Colin Bull
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Speaker 3: just mentioned that he has people that have come to
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Speaker 3: greg Way, which is on the wild coast in an
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Speaker 3: area caull Pondo Land and.
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Speaker 2: They stayed for three weeks.
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Speaker 3: I mean, people, that's a deep emotion and that is
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Speaker 3: obviously that is big dollar. But the point is, you know,
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Speaker 3: if I think about Desert Rhino camp in Namibia, where
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Speaker 3: Wilderness puts out a tour into that region, it's like
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Speaker 3: desert camping. It really is about solace and intimate excursion.
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Speaker 3: So you don't have a lot of people traping behind you.
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Speaker 3: It's you and a guide. It's very curated, very private,
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Speaker 3: and you have this one on one with this amazingly
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Speaker 3: skilled ranger who takes you into the field and you
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Speaker 3: come away with something that's really so deep and meaningful.
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Speaker 3: Or Sarahkafemer also Namibia, right at the northwest corner and
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Speaker 3: that's where the Himba are, And you know that everything
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Speaker 3: you're doing, which is this is a new luxury as well,
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Speaker 3: you want to know that you're making an impact in
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Speaker 3: conservation and local communities. So you find out what this
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Speaker 3: outfit is doing worth the dollar that you're dropping in
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Speaker 3: terms of how are you how they're changing the lives
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Speaker 3: of kids and communities on the ground, whether it's water
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Speaker 3: supply or you know, helping with food or just generally
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Speaker 3: you know, high impact, but legit, it's a lot of
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Speaker 3: integrity travel. I think that is a luxury spending time,
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Speaker 3: you know, going on road trips, taking the train, you know,
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Speaker 3: slowing it all down. I think that is the big
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Speaker 3: message that I got. No matter what you do, whether
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Speaker 3: it's a big city like Paris or you're going to
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Speaker 3: the Cedarburg or into Rwanda, it's just stretching it out
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Speaker 3: and going slower and connecting. People really want to talk
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Speaker 3: to other people that live in other places, whether it's
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Speaker 3: somebody that's a member of a tribe in Africa or
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Speaker 3: a cafe owner in a little, tiny little spot in
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Speaker 3: a hole in the wall in Paris. That's the way
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Speaker 3: you're standing and having your little espresso, you know, and
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Speaker 3: you're having a little banter.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. That's for me very precious.
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Speaker 1: Do you think that is in some degree having its
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Speaker 1: moment as a pushback against the sort of influencer Instagram culture,
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Speaker 1: because I'm thinking I was privileged to be in Bali
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Speaker 1: last year and a couple of the other nearby islands,
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Speaker 1: and it's very obvious that it's almost divided into two
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Speaker 1: kinds of travelers. There are people who are they're trying
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Speaker 1: to find a quiet surf break and natural experience, to
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Speaker 1: try the food, to interact with locals. And then you've
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Speaker 1: got people who are literally just running from instagram worthy
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Speaker 1: spot to another, literally between photo frames, just trying to
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Speaker 1: sort of tick the box that they were there and
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Speaker 1: capture the photograph. And it's leading to this kind of
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Speaker 1: first massive crowd issue and travel at traffic issues. But
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Speaker 1: it's also just you know, you could almost look you
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Speaker 1: could see them looking at each other and discussed going,
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Speaker 1: that's not the way I wanted to visit.
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Speaker 2: Plas one hundred percent.
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Speaker 3: It's actually quite gross for me when I see all
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Speaker 3: of that, you know, the messaging another messaging thing thread
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Speaker 3: that came through with stories, not selfies.
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Speaker 2: So how can you do that?
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Speaker 3: How unsatisfying is that when there's so much as you
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Speaker 3: can take out of these big cities of the world.
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Speaker 2: Yes, you absolutely should be taking those boxes.
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Speaker 3: You want to see the Louver, you want to do
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Speaker 3: the Eiffel Tower, but you can kind of do that
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Speaker 3: on a red bus, you know, hop on and hop off,
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Speaker 3: and you can do it and be done with it,
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Speaker 3: and you can go in and see the things, But
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Speaker 3: there's so much more like Paris what.
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Speaker 2: I'm planning to denise.
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Speaker 3: Once I've done what I need to do in terms
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Speaker 3: of in the city itself, I've got to go to
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Speaker 3: the Ballet of course, do different things, taking a road
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Speaker 3: trip down into a few villages around there, so that's
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Speaker 3: something whole different thing that. Then you deeper dive into
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Speaker 3: the medieval side of things. Oh, you know, there's so
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Speaker 3: much you can do. You can take a boat and
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Speaker 3: the Canal du MIDI did that with Metham once.
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Speaker 1: So you know things like that. It's like so far
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Speaker 1: you hop on.
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Speaker 3: And you hop off your butteau and you go and
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Speaker 3: taste wine, and oh there's so much And rarely I
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Speaker 3: think we owe to ourselves. We're dropping the money and
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Speaker 3: we're making we spending all of that so we have
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Speaker 3: a broader experience. And please don't come anywhere near me
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Speaker 3: if you're on your selfie stick and doing just not cool.
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Speaker 1: Actually, Alison Phote is our guest. If you want to
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Speaker 1: respond to anything she's saying, or react to the trends
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Speaker 1: that she's describing, if you agree with some of the
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Speaker 1: ideas that she is sharing, please do you feel free
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Speaker 1: to join the conversation on OSA in two five six
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Speaker 1: seven one five six seven. Alison, as you've mentioned, the
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Speaker 1: one place where the tech does help and where you
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Speaker 1: want to make good use of it is in the
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Speaker 1: planning of a trip, and talk to us a little
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Speaker 1: bit about how AI is changing the way people because
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Speaker 1: I'm again I'm seeing sort of two different streams of
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Speaker 1: thought emerge. I'm seeing one stream of people who like
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Speaker 1: I want to do all of it with AI. I
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Speaker 1: feed it a prompt, this is what I'm looking for
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Speaker 1: and see what it spits out. And I'm also seeing
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Speaker 1: people saying, you know what, I really miss the point
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Speaker 1: of contact of having a human being travel agent. I
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Speaker 1: can phone when things go wrong, if my flight is
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Speaker 1: diverted or my luggage is lost. I want a human
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Speaker 1: being to engage with it. So it's quite interesting to
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Speaker 1: me that they're sort of almost two diverting streams of
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Speaker 1: thought in.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I think I personally quite enjoy interaction with
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Speaker 3: a travel agent, especially for instance, now we're doing a
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Speaker 3: multi city trip, so we're going Environ France who are
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Speaker 3: coming out for our Lisbon and there's a lot of
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Speaker 3: connections and certain things can't be spontaneous because you know,
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Speaker 3: if you don't book, for instance, train traveling ahead, it
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Speaker 3: can cost an a leg. I mean, I think we
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Speaker 3: looked at it. We'll be brave and go Paris to
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Speaker 3: was Milan. It was like three hundred euros, which is
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Speaker 3: but it's like on easy jet it's like thirty seven euros.
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Speaker 1: So there's that.
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Speaker 3: But so that is a real assurance for me to
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Speaker 3: be able to sit one and one at somebody and
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Speaker 3: somebody's desk can go help me with this, that and the other,
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Speaker 3: and then I'll do all the things in the middle.
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Speaker 3: So I think AI so useful is I'm using it
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Speaker 3: for my Lisbon trip and Porto trip to just split
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Speaker 3: out something interesting about the things I like, Like we
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Speaker 3: love jazz bars, we love where's the great pastry places
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Speaker 3: that we have got to just hoover those pastes, right,
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Speaker 3: we want to go to the Alghave, we want to
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Speaker 3: do a little wine trips. So split it, put it
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Speaker 3: into a I see what it pops out with in
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Speaker 3: terms of the sort of chronological order of things.
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Speaker 2: So everything that makes sense.
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Speaker 3: Because if you're going in cold and I haven't been
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Speaker 3: to Portugal for like a year and a half, you know,
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Speaker 3: I want to make sure that I'm not going the
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Speaker 3: wrong way around what fits you know, it synchronizes.
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Speaker 1: I'm heading to Paris at the end of April on
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Speaker 1: my own for a week to get lost and walk
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Speaker 1: and not tech boxes see two. But what AI told
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Speaker 1: me is that Tori Amos is playing in Paris, so
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Speaker 1: I would have completely missed the fact that's one of
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Speaker 1: my all time favorite artists is performing in the city
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Speaker 1: I'm going to be in. So like, thank you very much, Ai. Yes,
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Speaker 1: we'll take it a book that ticket, you.
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Speaker 2: Can get the best of both. You can do so.
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Speaker 3: It says, you know, high tech planning, low tech travel,
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Speaker 3: so do the necessary, do your research. And somebody also
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Speaker 3: said it actually comes down to decision fatigue. You know,
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Speaker 3: we're making decisions and choices and things scheduling ourselves into
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Speaker 3: a small coma every.
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Speaker 2: Day of our lives, so why not give it over
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Speaker 2: to the spot? What is it?
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Speaker 3: Mind trip dot Ai is what I saw online. And
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Speaker 3: there's another one called Leila La y La, So those
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Speaker 3: are quite useful. One is for a budget travel, the
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Speaker 3: other one is for whatever you might want, and I'm
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Speaker 3: just curious to see what it lands up giving me.
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Speaker 2: But the rest of it I'll do myself. So it's
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Speaker 2: a suggestion.
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Speaker 1: A Jay agree with that approach, saying you can make
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Speaker 1: use of AI to arrange your travel like itinerary based
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Speaker 1: on your tastes and preferences. So what he does is
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Speaker 1: forwarded to a travel agents to have them make the
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Speaker 1: arrangements and it's the best of both worlds.
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Speaker 2: I love that. I think I might take Thank you
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Speaker 2: for that tip.
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Speaker 1: Nice tip, j thank you. Okay. So some of the
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Speaker 1: big guys like Condinas Traveler and nat Geo have put
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Speaker 1: out their list of sort of the must go to
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Speaker 1: destinations and I always laugh at these lists because all
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Speaker 1: that is everybody goes there and then everyone comes back
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Speaker 1: and says, oh there were two over crowded. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: not like the whole Cape Ton went to Greece about
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Speaker 1: three years ago and half of Cape tan is going
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Speaker 1: to Albania. This is two July. But as a matter
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Speaker 1: of interest, what are are kandanasta national geographics saying are
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Speaker 1: the kind of emerging destinations of the year.
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Speaker 2: Well, I honed it on Africa. You know, they talked
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Speaker 2: about the top three.
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Speaker 3: I think was maybe a Botswana, Rwanda, but then I
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Speaker 3: read somewhere else at Gabon is going to be very
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Speaker 3: interesting still, incredible forests and untapped like eco reserves and landscapes,
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Speaker 3: et cetera. So if you want to reset in nature,
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Speaker 3: that might be a good I'm very keen to go.
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Speaker 1: It's you know, it's it's been on my mental radar.
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Speaker 1: I'm going to show show myself up yet. But since
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Speaker 1: watching Survivor Gabon, which I think was about Survivor's season three,
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Speaker 1: I'm that old, but they're shot a season there and
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Speaker 1: the just I remember looking at those sort of zoom
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Speaker 1: overs as each episode started thinking where is this place?
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Speaker 1: Because as you said, that absolutely dense, untame jungle, it
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Speaker 1: looked amazing and I've sort of always whenever I hear
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Speaker 1: it mentioned, it pings in my head because of that
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Speaker 1: mental picture.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent.
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Speaker 3: So you've got to find the right artor that can
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Speaker 3: guide you, because I wouldn't go because I traveled solo
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Speaker 3: and I would not do that on my own.
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Speaker 2: But one I've noticed as.
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Speaker 3: Well is people, you know, there's always the sort of
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Speaker 3: city journe are. We're all going to Greece this year
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Speaker 3: and everybody is going to Spain and then Estonia. What
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Speaker 3: there's A definite push is to find really individual different
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Speaker 3: destinations so you can come back with something unique that
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Speaker 3: hasn't been tapped into before by people that you know
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Speaker 3: in your immediate circle. So be braver, explore more, you know,
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Speaker 3: do something different. So I'm quite keen to do that.
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Speaker 3: I want to go to different different destinations in Europe
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Speaker 3: this year. Definitely want to go back to Japan, but
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Speaker 3: not necessary to Tokyo and Kyoto, which I've done. I
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Speaker 3: want to go to the Northern Islands. But in the
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Speaker 3: fall where the parody the it is sensational. You think
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Speaker 3: forest bathing, a quod boss is. This takes it onto
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Speaker 3: a steroid level. It is next level and again very created.
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Speaker 3: But this is where the turning of the leaves happens.
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Speaker 3: So all sorts of different things you can do, and
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Speaker 3: you can go for hikes and walks.
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Speaker 2: I think you like to do that kind of thing.
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Speaker 3: So I think hyperindividualization is one of the things they
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Speaker 3: call it, making it unique, finding something that nobody else
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Speaker 3: is doing and just working it your best way with
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Speaker 3: your friends or whoever you're going with, coming back with
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Speaker 3: something super special.
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Speaker 1: And that goes for local travel as well as you know,
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Speaker 1: and I know we do. We sometimes have you tend
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Speaker 1: to get into the habit of we go to the
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Speaker 1: same place every Christmas or every Yes, etcetera. And it's
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Speaker 1: lovely to have those core memories and attachments to place,
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Speaker 1: but sometimes it's actually really nice to go somewhere completely
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Speaker 1: different and just experience a different part of the country. Right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I want to just pick up on something
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Speaker 1: you said about barging in the canal toy BT in France.
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Speaker 1: I'm also working on a barging trip plan, and I've
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Speaker 1: got to say it, if you like traveling at a
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Speaker 1: slow pace, where you set the agenda each day, you
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Speaker 1: decide where you stop, where you go, where you want
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Speaker 1: the experience of pottering along on the water, but not
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Speaker 1: a cruise type experience where the next port and the destination.
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Speaker 1: And if you want the port trip, you've got to
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Speaker 1: be ready at a certain time to leave, et cetera.
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Speaker 1: It's the opposite kind of water worn holiday because you
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Speaker 1: are pottering along canals and rivers very slowly. If you're
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Speaker 1: going to do it, my advice is rent a bicycle
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Speaker 1: for every person on the boats that you can hop
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Speaker 1: off cycle into the nearest town and find the market
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Speaker 1: buy some baghetti. If you're in France, whatever it is,
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Speaker 1: as you said, go wine tasting. Stop when you feel
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Speaker 1: like stopping, more on the side of the river and
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Speaker 1: just you know, wake up. When you wake up, it's
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Speaker 1: got slow pace, gorgeous. There's something so so special. I'm
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Speaker 1: so excited to.
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Speaker 3: Slow and quiet and calm, and the people are divine.
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Speaker 3: And I've done four five the boat trips right into Italy,
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Speaker 3: into Venice, all the rest of it Africa. Milani can
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Speaker 3: tell you stories about the Venice tip. But I think
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Speaker 3: when I nearly dropped over into the drink, that was that.
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Speaker 1: Was interested drop into the drink in a lock in France.
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Speaker 1: So and all I can say is, if that happens
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Speaker 1: to you, please block your nose and close your mouth
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Speaker 1: as you go overboard. You confect me later. Yes, not
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Speaker 1: water to be drinking in. Okay, Alison, I know you
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Speaker 1: always post on your site and you blog about what
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Speaker 1: we've discussed on air. If listeners want to come and
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Speaker 1: find some of your input on travel trends and some
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Speaker 1: of these destinations you've been chatting about, remind us where
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Speaker 1: they should be looking.
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Speaker 3: Kept on diva dot com. But give me like a
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Speaker 3: thirty minutes, haven't put it up yet.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So to be too anyway, because there's already a
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Speaker 1: lot of stuff up that you've mentioned conversations.
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Speaker 2: Lots of highlight iads on my Instagram.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So keep an eye and kept on Diva dot com. Okay. So,
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Speaker 1: if you had to to name one sort of off
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Speaker 1: the beaten track destination that people should put on their
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Speaker 1: travel radar for the year.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to say, in South Africa, go to Greguay,
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Speaker 2: in Pondoland, and in Namibia, go to the northwest, go
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Speaker 2: to Seraha Fehmer, go to desert rhine camp and speak
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Speaker 2: to natural selection and wilderness and they will sort it
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Speaker 2: out for you and.
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Speaker 1: They do things.
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Speaker 2: They're so well on it.
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Speaker 1: Oh Okay. If you are lucky enough to have that experience,
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Speaker 1: it's one you will never forget for the rest of
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Speaker 1: your life. Allison Vote always love you to have you
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Speaker 1: with us, and safe and happy travels, and in advance,
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Speaker 1: happy anniversary.
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Speaker 2: Travels, thank you, and happy twenty twenty six you
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Speaker 1: Too, and looking forward to chatting to you regularly this
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Speaker 1: year as well.