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- 0:23Speaker 1: Good evening everybody, and welcome to another edition of The
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- 1:15Speaker 4: Hi, guys, great to be here tonight.
- 1:17Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna be talking about the New York quarterback
- 1:20Speaker 1: situation for both the Jets and the Giants. We're gonna
- 1:22Speaker 1: talk about Patrick Ewing tonight, We're gonna talk about Cincinnati Bengos,
- 1:26Speaker 1: a little bit of Green Bay packer talking. We'll have
- 1:29Speaker 1: a show. Hey o, Tani mentioned as well. You know,
- 1:32Speaker 1: but we have to go out there and give credit
- 1:35Speaker 1: to Blows. Okay, and go to that first comment. I
- 1:38Speaker 1: didn't see you put it up there, Candy. We finally
- 1:40Speaker 1: got the no filter thing to work. Good for you, Blows.
- 1:43Speaker 1: I never doubted that you could ever do it, but
- 1:45Speaker 1: you finally cracked the not more power to you. And
- 1:48Speaker 1: of course we know Joshua Door is gonna go out
- 1:51Speaker 1: there and talk about his food references. Okay, that isn't
- 1:55Speaker 1: vanable offense. But but if you have to pacify this guy,
- 1:59Speaker 1: although I'll never hear at the end of it, what
- 2:01Speaker 1: nine million facetimes tomorrow? He wants to know what do
- 2:05Speaker 1: you have for dinner?
- 2:06Speaker 2: Tad Man, I don't remember. That was a long time ago.
- 2:11Speaker 1: All right, there you go, you got your answer. Yeah there,
- 2:15Speaker 1: and don't come on here trying to stick it to
- 2:17Speaker 1: them with the penguins. We know that they're bad. Okay. Yeah,
- 2:20Speaker 1: so that's not necessary. I mean, if you do it
- 2:23Speaker 1: for your own cakes, you do it for your own cakes.
- 2:25Speaker 1: But that isn't necessary, but it is necessary. It's the fact,
- 2:28Speaker 1: we're going to get the show going on. And as
- 2:30Speaker 1: I said, new York quarterback woes the New York Giants,
- 2:33Speaker 1: Daniel Jones has been benched. Tommy DeVito, the local kid
- 2:38Speaker 1: and local favorite, is a starter. He got Drew Locke
- 2:41Speaker 1: is the backup Joe. Obviously you're from the metropolitan New
- 2:44Speaker 1: York area. What are your talks about what the Giants
- 2:46Speaker 1: are going through?
- 2:48Speaker 5: Listen, Daniel Jones isn't the answer. He wasn't the answer
- 2:51Speaker 5: when he was drafted at a duke. He's not the
- 2:54Speaker 5: answer today. You know, he has talent, he's just not
- 2:58Speaker 5: the guy though. I mean, do you see that he
- 3:02Speaker 5: has flash as a talent. He got hurt a couple
- 3:04Speaker 5: of years, most of last year. But I think his
- 3:09Speaker 5: problem is more psychological. He gets in his own head.
- 3:12Speaker 5: Why that I'm playing Drew Locke and they were going
- 3:15Speaker 5: with Tommy DeVito. I don't understand that. You know, Drew
- 3:19Speaker 5: Locke came in and he was supposed to be the
- 3:21Speaker 5: number two quarterback. They're going to DeVito, who they tried
- 3:26Speaker 5: last year, and you know it was like a circus
- 3:29Speaker 5: when he was in there, and you know that this
- 3:33Speaker 5: is kind of what they're doing they're they're becoming a circus.
- 3:36Speaker 5: Maybe they see something in him this year as opposed
- 3:39Speaker 5: to last year that he had a little bit of
- 3:41Speaker 5: time playing. You know, he is young, he's undrafted, he
- 3:46Speaker 5: is a local kid.
- 3:47Speaker 3: But I don't know.
- 3:49Speaker 5: I would have went with Locke if if I'm trying
- 3:51Speaker 5: to win games. But maybe they're not trying to win.
- 3:53Speaker 5: Maybe they're looking for the quarterback of the future, and
- 3:55Speaker 5: the way to do that is to lose and get
- 3:57Speaker 5: a good draft pick.
- 3:59Speaker 3: Definitely interesting, Andy, what are your thoughts.
- 4:03Speaker 4: I also don't understand. I mean, in twenty nineteen, they
- 4:06Speaker 4: signed second round pick, I mean Drew Locke to five
- 4:12Speaker 4: million dollars. They're paying him. He was the second going
- 4:16Speaker 4: into camp, they said he was the number two. That
- 4:20Speaker 4: you know that DeVito was number three, the third string.
- 4:25Speaker 4: So why if you're gonna take your first string out,
- 4:29Speaker 4: are you going to your third string and not your second?
- 4:33Speaker 4: I don't get that either, unless they want to see
- 4:35Speaker 4: what de Vito has in game time situations. I did not.
- 4:42Speaker 4: The one thing I didn't look up is who is
- 4:43Speaker 4: some of their Who's their opponent this week?
- 4:46Speaker 3: This week?
- 4:47Speaker 4: Is?
- 4:48Speaker 2: Was it Tampa and the Dallas Next week? Isn't it.
- 4:52Speaker 4: Yeah, So if you're gonna put him in, would you
- 4:54Speaker 4: really start him against Tampa's defense as opposed to Dallas's.
- 4:58Speaker 4: I mean, I guess, I don't know, because I don't
- 5:02Speaker 4: know what message that would send you. If you're gonna
- 5:04Speaker 4: bench your first string, I don't know that. I would
- 5:08Speaker 4: put my second string in this week only to put
- 5:10Speaker 4: my third string in next week to try him out.
- 5:12Speaker 4: But I don't think the third string is gonna do
- 5:15Speaker 4: well against Tampa Bay's defense. I could be wrong. I
- 5:20Speaker 4: guess We'll wait and see. We'll see how motivated he
- 5:24Speaker 4: gets the other team teammates to play too, to elevate everybody,
- 5:28Speaker 4: because maybe that's what the coach is looking to do,
- 5:30Speaker 4: is to motivate all of the teammates, the other teammates
- 5:34Speaker 4: to excel their playing to a different level. Knowing that
- 5:40Speaker 4: he can pull his first string quarterback, he could pull
- 5:43Speaker 4: any of the rest of them.
- 5:46Speaker 1: Depends on your thoughts.
- 5:49Speaker 2: I say, just like it, slang. They're already they're in,
- 5:52Speaker 2: They're have playoff contention, so just let them sling it.
- 5:57Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, I knew he wasn't going to be part
- 6:01Speaker 2: of it. I knew he wasn't going to be effective.
- 6:04Speaker 2: If you know, after six years, you know what your
- 6:07Speaker 2: quarterback is like, there is no Kenny do or can't
- 6:12Speaker 2: he do it at six years if you know, if
- 6:14Speaker 2: at six years you already know what you what you have.
- 6:18Speaker 2: So and I would say, if I just play out
- 6:22Speaker 2: the rest of the year, and I would just go
- 6:23Speaker 2: after Sanders and see what he can do. Jav Or
- 6:29Speaker 2: Shaker had known that.
- 6:30Speaker 5: I want no part of the Sanders circus.
- 6:33Speaker 2: That's what Dion was talking about today. He was talking
- 6:35Speaker 2: about him. He would he might go to uh, the
- 6:38Speaker 2: New York Giants.
- 6:40Speaker 3: I hope not.
- 6:41Speaker 1: Well.
- 6:41Speaker 5: I love Dian. Sorry, sorry if I dropped it. I
- 6:44Speaker 5: love Dion. I just want no part of that circus.
- 6:47Speaker 2: You know he got he might be better than Daniel.
- 6:50Speaker 5: Though Scott's better than Daniel, Kady's better than Daniel. I
- 6:56Speaker 5: would assume you're better than Daniel.
- 6:58Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you this, okay. First of all,
- 7:01Speaker 1: David Cutcliffe did a nice job for the Duke Blue Devils,
- 7:06Speaker 1: and I know that was his quarterback. But how on
- 7:09Speaker 1: earth can you retain Daniel Jones when you could have
- 7:12Speaker 1: kept Saquon Barkley. That to me is the worst decision
- 7:17Speaker 1: on the planet. Nobody really knows, Okay, what Drew Locke
- 7:21Speaker 1: is about, so he needs a playing time. But so
- 7:24Speaker 1: what you may have to do is for one or
- 7:26Speaker 1: two games, see what you have. Okay with the local kid,
- 7:31Speaker 1: but Drew lockshould be getting the Lions share the playing
- 7:34Speaker 1: time is what they should do. And Brian Daball, you're
- 7:38Speaker 1: trying to save your job or are you? That's the
- 7:42Speaker 1: thing I'm not sure about.
- 7:44Speaker 2: But seriously, I think he gave up on it.
- 7:48Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of maybe, oh maybe he did. I
- 7:50Speaker 1: don't know.
- 7:51Speaker 5: Maybe maybe the game plan is to lose and get
- 7:54Speaker 5: a quarterback and he's safe and we just don't know it.
- 7:57Speaker 5: I mean, there's a lot that happens behind the scenes,
- 7:59Speaker 5: I'm sure, but I don't get it at all.
- 8:04Speaker 1: Yeah, the move is mind boggling that Tommy Davina will
- 8:06Speaker 1: be in. But the amazing part about it is if
- 8:08Speaker 1: he actually has a pretty good game next week, we
- 8:11Speaker 1: might be biting our tongue for at least a week.
- 8:14Speaker 1: But we'll see how it plays out. But Joe wrote
- 8:16Speaker 1: a story on it, and you'll have an opportunity to
- 8:19Speaker 1: read it on Sideline Sports as well as a selfward
- 8:21Speaker 1: of Tribune for sure, And just so let everybody know
- 8:24Speaker 1: that when you read that story, his video will be
- 8:27Speaker 1: in here, so you could go ahead and get all
- 8:29Speaker 1: of our opinions on what Joe put together.
- 8:32Speaker 4: My other question to you guys is is what message
- 8:35Speaker 4: does that send a Drew Locke? Like how happy is
- 8:38Speaker 4: he now? Like, Oh, you're gonna go from the first
- 8:41Speaker 4: ring and you're gonna just bypass me?
- 8:43Speaker 5: And who well they had him on I want to
- 8:47Speaker 5: say it was Sports Center earlier today. He was being
- 8:50Speaker 5: interviewed and you saw the disbelief and like the way
- 8:54Speaker 5: he was answering very you know, he answered it properly
- 8:57Speaker 5: so that it wouldn't cause any drava, but you I
- 9:00Speaker 5: saw exactly by what he said and how we said
- 9:02Speaker 5: it that there was an issue, which I don't blame
- 9:05Speaker 5: him because I would have the same problem, if you know,
- 9:07Speaker 5: if I'm supposed to number two and number one's getting bedged,
- 9:09Speaker 5: it's my job, you know.
- 9:11Speaker 2: But I saw the same interview him earlier and he
- 9:15Speaker 2: didn't look can't look happy at all.
- 9:17Speaker 5: No, but he did answer it the right way to
- 9:20Speaker 5: how to let it die down, But.
- 9:21Speaker 2: He just had that body language like he could tell
- 9:23Speaker 2: you was upset about it.
- 9:24Speaker 3: I mean we could all read the room. It was.
- 9:26Speaker 3: It was ugly.
- 9:27Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 9:29Speaker 1: So let's let's go ahead and talk about the New
- 9:31Speaker 1: York Jets. And here's an interesting stat here.
- 9:35Speaker 2: Discount discount discount.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go alone, all right. We know I
- 9:41Speaker 1: was waiting for him to come up with that one.
- 9:43Speaker 1: Let's go ahead, and I want you to digest some
- 9:46Speaker 1: facts there, Benman, I know that's our first opportunity to
- 9:49Speaker 1: do it. I'm having a lot of fun with you,
- 9:51Speaker 1: my brother, my word, this was a lot of fun.
- 9:54Speaker 1: And this guy to the lineup. But discount, double check,
- 9:58Speaker 1: call what you want to not paying my bills in anyway.
- 10:00Speaker 1: But let's talk about the New York Jets. Aaron Rodgers
- 10:02Speaker 1: is three and eight as a winning percentage in the
- 10:05Speaker 1: two seventies, like twenty seven percent. But last season through
- 10:09Speaker 1: weeks one through six, the Jets scored one hundred and
- 10:12Speaker 1: thirteen points one hundred and thirteen points in the weeks
- 10:16Speaker 1: one through six weeks. And you're gonna find out, okay,
- 10:21Speaker 1: ten Man, I like to throw a lot of stats.
- 10:23Speaker 1: I am one of those stat guys, and that's what
- 10:25Speaker 1: I've learned as long as I have, you know, there
- 10:30Speaker 1: you go, you know, operate. So this season in weeks
- 10:33Speaker 1: one through six, guess what one hundred and thirteen points?
- 10:37Speaker 1: My goodness, isn't that unbelievable? How you can have the
- 10:40Speaker 1: same exact amount of point two years in a row.
- 10:44Speaker 1: One was Rogers, was Zach Wilson. And of course now
- 10:46Speaker 1: I think the Jets are probably gonna wish that maybe
- 10:49Speaker 1: Zach Wilson wasn't as bad as they ran him out
- 10:51Speaker 1: of town, let alone Sam Darnold. But that's another point.
- 10:56Speaker 1: But can you believe that the two stats would be
- 10:58Speaker 1: identical in two years? Litt alone? They had the Rogers
- 11:02Speaker 1: one year and that and at the other first medvent,
- 11:05Speaker 1: I'll give you first crack at this one.
- 11:11Speaker 2: I don't know what to say. I just know that
- 11:13Speaker 2: the Jets have been in every game. They almost beat
- 11:17Speaker 2: the Steelers. I was actually sweat during that game. But
- 11:22Speaker 2: they're in almost every game. They just have the one
- 11:25Speaker 2: miss missque when that's it. But Aaron Rodgers is playing
- 11:31Speaker 2: like Aaron Rodgers, like he can't come up in the clutch.
- 11:33Speaker 2: It's just he doesn't he has enough pieces. It's like
- 11:37Speaker 2: that one stop that defense can't make.
- 11:41Speaker 4: So the Jets are how should I put this, so
- 11:49Speaker 4: dysfunctional what they did allowing Aaron Rodgers to pull to
- 11:56Speaker 4: tell the team take this player, move this player, bring
- 12:00Speaker 4: all my guys here. Now, let's face it. He wasn't
- 12:04Speaker 4: winning super bowls in Green Bay left and right with
- 12:07Speaker 4: all those same guys. So really, am I sad that
- 12:10Speaker 4: he pulled them that way? No? But what precedent does
- 12:15Speaker 4: that set? Because now you got your GM fired and
- 12:19Speaker 4: your head coach fired. He was injured last year. He's
- 12:23Speaker 4: not the same guy. I mean, I sorry, Pensman. I
- 12:27Speaker 4: watched him for years, you know, and he's just not
- 12:35Speaker 4: He's not the same. He is still a very brilliant man.
- 12:42Speaker 4: Like he is very smart, don't get me wrong, Yes,
- 12:45Speaker 4: but he doesn't have the same physicality. His arm strength
- 12:49Speaker 4: I don't believe is quite the same. And the chemistry
- 12:55Speaker 4: I don't believe is the same either. And I think
- 12:59Speaker 4: part of it was is because he has such a
- 13:03Speaker 4: head for himself before he has a head for the team.
- 13:07Speaker 4: We like to compare and say what's going on, Like
- 13:11Speaker 4: he's trying to play as long as Brady he wants.
- 13:13Speaker 4: This is the one thing Brady did that Aaron hasn't done.
- 13:17Speaker 4: Is Brady took cuts in his pay to give money
- 13:21Speaker 4: to the rest of his team to get better talent
- 13:24Speaker 4: and to pay the talent that they had there. Aaron
- 13:27Speaker 4: Rodgers has not done that. He does not do that.
- 13:30Speaker 4: He's in it for himself, and that I think speaks volumes,
- 13:35Speaker 4: not just with all of us, but with his teammates,
- 13:39Speaker 4: like they see that, they see what's going on. And
- 13:42Speaker 4: I just don't think what he brings to that locker
- 13:47Speaker 4: room anymore benefits that locker room.
- 13:54Speaker 1: Well, boomber Science said, we talked about it last night
- 13:57Speaker 1: on Inside to pitch in again, like everybody else is
- 14:00Speaker 1: piling on the Rogers guy. Facturing the locker room is
- 14:03Speaker 1: what he's doing. He really, really, really is. And you know,
- 14:07Speaker 1: I always respected Boomer size, and not only as a player,
- 14:10Speaker 1: but he's done a good job in the broadcasting field.
- 14:13Speaker 1: And we all know that Aaron Rodgers wants it his
- 14:17Speaker 1: own way anyhow. But I'm gonna before I say any more, Joe.
- 14:20Speaker 1: You know, obviously I've always said this, I've always liked
- 14:22Speaker 1: Brett Fire better than Aaron Rodgers.
- 14:25Speaker 5: Like, go ahead, Joe, Well, I mean, you know, Aaron
- 14:29Speaker 5: Rodgers with the talent he had around the Mcgreen Bay
- 14:32Speaker 5: and the situations they were in to get one super
- 14:36Speaker 5: Bowl is said wasted talent. What he did to the
- 14:41Speaker 5: Jets and the Jets fans more than the Jets was
- 14:45Speaker 5: sold the dabashed bill of goods. You know, he got
- 14:49Speaker 5: all his guys here. Everybody the last two years has
- 14:52Speaker 5: said the Jets are going to be Super Bowl contenders.
- 14:56Speaker 5: Granted last year he got hurt four plays into the season,
- 14:58Speaker 5: I don't hold the response for that one. But he
- 15:01Speaker 5: came back this year and that they're not on the
- 15:04Speaker 5: same page anywhere. They got rid of Salah. You know,
- 15:08Speaker 5: to the middle of the year, they changed play coolers,
- 15:10Speaker 5: they burned Devonte Adams. You can't make all these changes,
- 15:14Speaker 5: wholesale changes and do well in the NFL. It doesn't
- 15:17Speaker 5: work that way. I've never seen, you know, consistently teams
- 15:23Speaker 5: switch coaches the middle of the year win a Super
- 15:25Speaker 5: Bowl or even make the playoffs. It doesn't happen. You know,
- 15:29Speaker 5: not that Salah was a great coach, because he didn't
- 15:31Speaker 5: do a great job at all. But at the same time,
- 15:34Speaker 5: your GM shouldn't be playing quarterback, you know, he's just
- 15:38Speaker 5: he doesn't look interested sometimes when you watch some of
- 15:40Speaker 5: the games. He's not a leader like Candy says, he
- 15:45Speaker 5: is about himself. Now, as far as giving up the money,
- 15:48Speaker 5: I don't hold Tumble are responsible for that. I'm not
- 15:50Speaker 5: going to give up money for my teammates unless I'm
- 15:53Speaker 5: sure I'm gonna win. And I give Brady a lot
- 15:56Speaker 5: of credit for that, but I don't know if I
- 15:58Speaker 5: would do that. So I give him, you know, not
- 16:00Speaker 5: gonna fault Rogers for that, but I'm gonna fold him
- 16:03Speaker 5: from missing mini camps and everything else and just showing
- 16:06Speaker 5: up what he pleases rather than try to build the
- 16:09Speaker 5: team together. And that was the one thing I loved
- 16:12Speaker 5: about Matt Lafleur, how he kept the team together Rogers
- 16:15Speaker 5: last year there, and how good he coached him last
- 16:18Speaker 5: year with Love's first year starting, because there was so
- 16:21Speaker 5: much drama around that team and yet he kept everyone together.
- 16:25Speaker 5: So I think he's an excellent coach. But you know, Rogers,
- 16:28Speaker 5: like Candy said, it's all about Rogers, It's not about
- 16:31Speaker 5: anybody else. If you look at his body language, you
- 16:34Speaker 5: know it's me, me, me, and it's just it's not working.
- 16:39Speaker 1: JB.
- 16:40Speaker 4: Think of this. Brady took cuts in pay and I
- 16:44Speaker 4: get that you might not do the same thing. I
- 16:46Speaker 4: get that Brady also had a family to mouster feed.
- 16:50Speaker 4: Aaron has nobody. He's not feeding a family. He could.
- 16:54Speaker 4: He's already made how many millions of dollars? And I get,
- 16:58Speaker 4: you know, when you're playing in the league, you want
- 17:01Speaker 4: to get as much money as you can because you're
- 17:03Speaker 4: only going to play for limited shelf life. I get that,
- 17:06Speaker 4: But he's also already made millions and millions and millions
- 17:11Speaker 4: of dollars that he doesn't have a family to share
- 17:14Speaker 4: it with, and he could have taken some cuts, I believe,
- 17:18Speaker 4: to help elevate some of the other people. Now, I
- 17:21Speaker 4: get not everybody would do that, and I get like,
- 17:24Speaker 4: would I do that? But I'm like, yeah, but I'm
- 17:26Speaker 4: not making that kind of money either, So I don't
- 17:29Speaker 4: know that I wouldn't do that if I were making
- 17:32Speaker 4: that kind of money.
- 17:33Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to tell you right now, Okay. And
- 17:36Speaker 1: when we think about Rogers as a whole, Robert Salah
- 17:41Speaker 1: to me had him playing respectable competitive football. He really did.
- 17:48Speaker 1: The defense was way better. The interim guy hadn't done
- 17:50Speaker 1: anything but the defense at all, And all of a
- 17:53Speaker 1: sudden you make that change, and the interim guy hadn't
- 17:55Speaker 1: done any thing. But let's take a look at how
- 17:58Speaker 1: busy the Jets have been. On October eighth, they fired
- 18:01Speaker 1: Robert Sala Monday, they lost on ten fourteen, okay to
- 18:07Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills at home, and then on October fifteenth
- 18:12Speaker 1: they traded for Devonte Adams, and then you go out
- 18:15Speaker 1: there and cap it off yesterday when they fired GM
- 18:20Speaker 1: Joe Douglas. People, that's a lot of changes. You see
- 18:25Speaker 1: the writing on the wall that there will be a
- 18:27Speaker 1: divorce with Rogers, and I think that even Woody Johnson
- 18:30Speaker 1: wanted to get Roger bench during the against the Denver Broncos,
- 18:35Speaker 1: but none of that took place. So Aaron Rodgers, to me,
- 18:40Speaker 1: you would think at some point or another, okay, you
- 18:47Speaker 1: may not, you're not gonna make it with the Jets,
- 18:49Speaker 1: but don't make yourself look like an idiot in case
- 18:51Speaker 1: another team were to bother to ask you to play
- 18:54Speaker 1: a year. This is a bad look and a bad
- 18:58Speaker 1: act for for him all the way. And you know, hey,
- 19:03Speaker 1: I give Matt Lafleura credit for hanging in there with it.
- 19:06Speaker 1: Robert Salad tried as hard as he could to work
- 19:09Speaker 1: with him, names agetting didn't get better with the interim guy.
- 19:13Speaker 1: Then you got DeVante Adams. You've had everything you've wanted
- 19:17Speaker 1: and you haven't done a thing on the field. And
- 19:20Speaker 1: the fact that you're worse than Zach Wilson and Sam
- 19:24Speaker 1: Darnold says an awful lot about the fact that this
- 19:27Speaker 1: guy is overrated. And he is overrated. I'll tell you
- 19:32Speaker 1: he's the most overrated quarterback on see. I just loved
- 19:35Speaker 1: Brett Farvelle because he played so many games, is what
- 19:38Speaker 1: he did. And you know what he did bring the
- 19:42Speaker 1: drama that Rogers did, albeit he was waffling if he
- 19:45Speaker 1: wanted to play every year, but not to the extent
- 19:48Speaker 1: that mister Rogers dead. All right, well, obviously the chat
- 19:51Speaker 1: room is in demand.
- 19:54Speaker 2: I have one question for the podium.
- 19:57Speaker 1: Go ahead.
- 19:58Speaker 2: Candy said something that about Tom Brady. If Tom Brady
- 20:02Speaker 2: and Aaron Rodgers, if Aaron Rodgers trained, I know it's
- 20:05Speaker 2: a little late, but if Aaron Rodgers start training like
- 20:08Speaker 2: Tom Brady, will he be like Tom Brady in his forties?
- 20:15Speaker 2: You're still saying, no, what are you thinking?
- 20:18Speaker 5: He has no heart? Tom Brady?
- 20:22Speaker 2: Why the way he Yeah, no, the way he trained
- 20:25Speaker 2: is so phenomenal. It's you either love him or hate him.
- 20:28Speaker 2: When I hate him, but the way he trains is
- 20:31Speaker 2: like so phenomenal. How he trains though, And I'm just
- 20:34Speaker 2: trying to figure out if Aaron Rodgers train starts training
- 20:37Speaker 2: the way Brady does a little bit. I don't hear
- 20:40Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers.
- 20:41Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers goes in a room in a black room,
- 20:44Speaker 4: and you know, thinks about what he should be doing
- 20:47Speaker 4: and stuff like that. I honestly, I don't think so.
- 20:50Speaker 4: I think again, I think Aaron Rodgers is not in
- 20:54Speaker 4: it for the team. I think he's in it for himself.
- 20:58Speaker 4: And I think that I think that makes a big difference.
- 21:02Speaker 5: Okay, Brady, Brady has heart and determination. Brady is about
- 21:08Speaker 5: winning an old cost. He doesn't care about anything else.
- 21:11Speaker 5: Losing is unacceptable. Rogers is about give me my paycheck,
- 21:15Speaker 5: give me what I want, and that's the way it's
- 21:17Speaker 5: gonna be. And if not, I'm gonna complain. I'm gonna
- 21:19Speaker 5: look like a fool, and I don't care because that's
- 21:22Speaker 5: what I want. You know, he did it in Green Bay,
- 21:25Speaker 5: where he was he was basically a god a green Bay.
- 21:28Speaker 5: You know, he can have had he canda ran the city,
- 21:32Speaker 5: you know, but instead he made everyone hate him. You
- 21:36Speaker 5: know how hard that is to do with Green Bay.
- 21:38Speaker 5: Green Bay is probably one of the nicest cities in
- 21:40Speaker 5: the world as far as people. And if you're a packer,
- 21:42Speaker 5: you're a god. And you win a Super Bowl as
- 21:45Speaker 5: a packer, at a quarterback, whatever you want, you know.
- 21:49Speaker 5: But he turned the whole city against him because he's selfish.
- 21:55Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you know what. The fact that I can
- 21:58Speaker 1: describe Rogers was one word relax, because that's what he
- 22:04Speaker 1: does with his brain and his work ethic. Relax people, Relax, Okay, Aaron,
- 22:09Speaker 1: Well relax, I'll go into a black room and talk
- 22:12Speaker 1: to nobody and talk to whoever out there's the Sultan
- 22:16Speaker 1: of Rogers or whatever. I'm gonna go in there, and
- 22:20Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna do during COVID, I'm gonna
- 22:22Speaker 1: get emmy and eyed never even hurt of the word
- 22:24Speaker 1: and telling this idiot came up with it. Emmy and
- 22:26Speaker 1: I have you ever heard of that word before? Emmu
- 22:28Speaker 1: knize I haven't. I haven't until this guy comes along.
- 22:36Speaker 2: That's what he's gonna do.
- 22:37Speaker 1: He's gonna tea get you immunized. Yeah, is that in
- 22:41Speaker 1: the English dictionary. It's the word i'm in the English issuer.
- 22:44Speaker 1: Maybe that might be closer to it. There is a
- 22:46Speaker 1: lot of people use it let amunize people. That guy
- 22:49Speaker 1: wants you to immunize and relax. And you know what
- 22:53Speaker 1: I love about my chat room. I like it when
- 22:55Speaker 1: they relaxed too at times. So I want to answer
- 23:02Speaker 1: me I don't know.
- 23:05Speaker 4: I want to answer one of Joshua's questions, Pensman, do
- 23:08Speaker 4: you know Ralph Williams Joshua? That means you have not
- 23:11Speaker 4: watched Fire Up on Thursday nights because Fensman has joined
- 23:15Speaker 4: the crew on Thursday Nights that has Ralph and myself
- 23:18Speaker 4: and Jeremy on it. So on Fire Up, so catch
- 23:22Speaker 4: him with all of us. So, yes, he does know Ralph.
- 23:25Speaker 4: Sorry to answer that for you, Pensman, but no, you're.
- 23:28Speaker 2: You're good and Ralph is a good guy too.
- 23:30Speaker 1: Yes, Ralph, you don't hurt nobody.
- 23:34Speaker 5: We answered blases question. I think we should buy all
- 23:37Speaker 5: of us some bitcoin. I think Candy needs like twenty,
- 23:40Speaker 5: ID twenty, Scott needs twenty, and pens With needs twenty,
- 23:43Speaker 5: So would you make that happen? They can ask more questions.
- 23:47Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what.
- 23:50Speaker 2: I know.
- 23:51Speaker 1: You're making a lot of money. You flash it on
- 23:52Speaker 1: your FaceTime goals. You can handle it. And you know
- 23:55Speaker 1: if you and I'll tell you what in the future,
- 23:57Speaker 1: if you ever make any stupid comments, I'll find you
- 24:00Speaker 1: your pitcoin. I don't mind finding any who cares. Doesn't
- 24:03Speaker 1: letter blows. It's all good. It's all low associated you
- 24:05Speaker 1: and Joshua to a credit for cracking the no filter
- 24:09Speaker 1: thing on a jogger or nut. But relax, Joshua, relax, blause.
- 24:15Speaker 2: Hit that, hit that check. Come on, come on, chet,
- 24:17Speaker 2: hit that wake.
- 24:18Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. We gotta get how do we
- 24:20Speaker 1: get these go? We got to make sure the guys
- 24:22Speaker 1: get really engaged here, regardless of what they put off.
- 24:25Speaker 1: While there are limitations, but you know, we gotta keep blows,
- 24:29Speaker 1: and we gotta keep Joshua door in it. After all,
- 24:31Speaker 1: we don't want to hurt their feelings if we forget
- 24:33Speaker 1: water or two here and there. But I guarantee one
- 24:36Speaker 1: thing we're not gonna forget is we're gonna go out
- 24:38Speaker 1: there and give a station break so that these guys
- 24:40Speaker 1: that get what they want. So all right, I'll take
- 24:43Speaker 1: a break, Joshua blows everybody. Katie gets a space break,
- 24:46Speaker 1: but Joshua blows Relax.
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- 26:12Speaker 1: All right, well, Joshua Door here, let's put his recent
- 26:16Speaker 1: comment up because you get to go ahead and address
- 26:18Speaker 1: this one of the station break. All right, go ahead, Candy,
- 26:21Speaker 1: you're in charge of the chatroom.
- 26:23Speaker 4: Joshua Door will relax when the chat gets acknowledged more
- 26:27Speaker 4: ever since the Jazz situation, the chat gets severely neglected. No,
- 26:33Speaker 4: josh It just depends on what topic we're talking about.
- 26:35Speaker 4: And if you're commenting on the topic that we're talking about,
- 26:38Speaker 4: we'll put we'll include the chat. But if you're going
- 26:41Speaker 4: completely off topic, we have to wait until we're done
- 26:44Speaker 4: with the topic before we start going back to the chat.
- 26:47Speaker 4: That's what I'm going to tell you about the chat.
- 26:49Speaker 1: Yeah, and Joshua Door, just so you know, you have
- 26:52Speaker 1: an open invitation anytime you want Okay to come on
- 26:56Speaker 1: a show, and I guarantee you'll definitely not go ahead
- 26:59Speaker 1: and we will make sure you get all the airtime
- 27:02Speaker 1: that you can handle. I'm telling you, Joshua Door, we
- 27:05Speaker 1: feel like we got a talented broadcaster. Come out of
- 27:08Speaker 1: your tot pick and chat room and join the party.
- 27:12Speaker 1: Josro a Door, okay, because I got news for it.
- 27:15Speaker 1: You're better on there than you think you are. I'm
- 27:17Speaker 1: telling you, I won't mention Jesus Christ superstar. Who the
- 27:22Speaker 1: hell do you think you are?
- 27:23Speaker 5: What?
- 27:23Speaker 1: Josh to Door? That's him. I don't sing, but if
- 27:26Speaker 1: I have one, i'd break a memorys glass anyways, and
- 27:28Speaker 1: nobody wants to ever hear me sing to begin with.
- 27:30Speaker 1: It's not really healthy for the ears. Otherwise you're gonna
- 27:33Speaker 1: eat hearing aids a whole lot faster. Okay. I like
- 27:36Speaker 1: my place as a producer of the Hockey show lo,
- 27:41Speaker 1: you know, because he's not on but okay, but you
- 27:44Speaker 1: know the fact that it does come on there. So whatever,
- 27:47Speaker 1: josh if you want to continue to have all this
- 27:49Speaker 1: stuff on here, then we'll make you the start of
- 27:52Speaker 1: the show. We'll just be the other ducks out here
- 27:54Speaker 1: in the back so we can bring all the attach
- 27:57Speaker 1: to Jack to a door because I have a feeling
- 27:59Speaker 1: that he just wants it anyways, Am I having fun.
- 28:02Speaker 1: You bet, and you know what, this is better than
- 28:05Speaker 1: a dark border a panatta. But Joshu Door is acting
- 28:08Speaker 1: like both of hom and I. But at least he
- 28:10Speaker 1: cracked a no filter situation. Is that meaningful? Air? Yeah? Meaning,
- 28:14Speaker 1: let's look care but I will tell you this and
- 28:17Speaker 1: over New York Nets legend. Patrick Ewing rejoined the organization
- 28:22Speaker 1: as a basketball ambassador. Joe, what do you think of
- 28:25Speaker 1: the fact that Patrick Ewing is going to be going
- 28:27Speaker 1: home to MSG?
- 28:30Speaker 3: Listen?
- 28:30Speaker 5: I mean, he was one of the greatest knicks of
- 28:33Speaker 5: all time. You know that they never heard to have
- 28:37Speaker 5: him involved with the organization. He always wanted to be
- 28:39Speaker 5: a head coach in the NBA. Didn't work out as
- 28:42Speaker 5: of yet. He coached at Georgetown for a little bit,
- 28:45Speaker 5: didn't do very well there. I didn't watch much Georgetown
- 28:50Speaker 5: basketball while he was there, I don't, but from what
- 28:54Speaker 5: I saw the limited about I don't think he's he
- 28:58Speaker 5: was ready to be a coach, but he's an overall
- 29:01Speaker 5: good guy and it would never hurt have a guy
- 29:03Speaker 5: like that with the organization.
- 29:06Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to tell you the biggest mis justice
- 29:08Speaker 1: that I've ever seen in my life is the fact
- 29:11Speaker 1: that Patrick Ewing never got an NBA head coaching job,
- 29:14Speaker 1: and I'm gonna even say that. Another big misju justice
- 29:17Speaker 1: it was ahead of its time, was me and Joe
- 29:19Speaker 1: Green not getting an NFL head coaching job. And I
- 29:22Speaker 1: remember talking to mean Joe Green many years ago out
- 29:24Speaker 1: in Arizona when he was an assistant coach under Dave McGinnis.
- 29:28Speaker 1: And I'll tell you I have talked to him about
- 29:30Speaker 1: that Coca Cola commercial. Sid Man Me, Joe, you were
- 29:35Speaker 1: so darned good in that that I as much as
- 29:38Speaker 1: people will acknowledge for what you did on defense with
- 29:40Speaker 1: the steel curtain, okay, and little and I know Penman
- 29:43Speaker 1: should feel pretty at home at this time, Okay, but
- 29:47Speaker 1: he did unbelievable with that Coca Cola commercial. I gave
- 29:50Speaker 1: the guy a hug and shook his hand, and he
- 29:53Speaker 1: was just so great. Me and Joe isn't mean Joe,
- 29:55Speaker 1: and he is on the field when you have to be, Okay,
- 29:58Speaker 1: but it is what it is. So but Patrick Ewing,
- 30:01Speaker 1: to me, should have gotten a head coaching job in
- 30:04Speaker 1: the NBA. I'll never forget the time I'm sitting behind
- 30:07Speaker 1: New York Knick's mansion. He's sitting there and he gave
- 30:10Speaker 1: me a nice smile and gave me a nice wink,
- 30:12Speaker 1: you know, as though it was a week of a friend,
- 30:15Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So Patrick and I got
- 30:17Speaker 1: to say and I did see him in the final
- 30:19Speaker 1: four up in in nineteen eighty two in New Orleans
- 30:23Speaker 1: when North Carolina won it all, and I was able
- 30:25Speaker 1: to go with a friend of mine as a fan.
- 30:27Speaker 1: It was an unbelievable experience. And I'm always always telling
- 30:30Speaker 1: people that, you know what, John Thompson can't really get
- 30:34Speaker 1: out of his case for going out there and having
- 30:37Speaker 1: too many gold They what do you to tell your
- 30:38Speaker 1: best center to go out there and not be aggressive?
- 30:41Speaker 1: And he never did. I'll take the colt that he
- 30:44Speaker 1: just started their basket. Of course, nowadays they don't know
- 30:46Speaker 1: what guarding the basket is. Candy her thoughts about Patrick
- 30:49Speaker 1: Ewing being with the Knicks again.
- 30:54Speaker 4: I think it's a brilliant move for them. He had
- 30:58Speaker 4: a great career as a Nick fan favorite. He's regarded
- 31:04Speaker 4: as one of the greatest of all time to play,
- 31:07Speaker 4: greatest centers of all time to play. He just because
- 31:13Speaker 4: you played the game does not mean that is going
- 31:16Speaker 4: to equate to you being a good coach, and so
- 31:20Speaker 4: many things have changed in today's coaching compared to when
- 31:27Speaker 4: he was playing. And what I mean about that is,
- 31:32Speaker 4: and I get he's not coaching right now for Georgetown,
- 31:35Speaker 4: but nil the transfer portal, so many things are different
- 31:40Speaker 4: moving parts that you're constantly recruiting, and not every coach
- 31:44Speaker 4: is up for that. So I don't begrudge him for
- 31:50Speaker 4: anything or leaving the college coaching. It's not easy. It's
- 31:55Speaker 4: not an easy job. And everybody's talking about how are
- 32:00Speaker 4: a win now mode. Let's face it, FAU just fired
- 32:06Speaker 4: their football coach. Hasn't even been three seasons. It was
- 32:10Speaker 4: in the middle of his second season, and they're already saying,
- 32:14Speaker 4: you know what, we're moving on from you. It's a
- 32:16Speaker 4: win now in every single sport in college or pro
- 32:22Speaker 4: these days. And so I think it was a good
- 32:26Speaker 4: move for them to bring him on because he played
- 32:29Speaker 4: from the Knicks from eighty five to two thousand. He
- 32:33Speaker 4: was well loved, well received, he's everybody knows, most people
- 32:40Speaker 4: know him, he's recognizable. He's great for them and their sport.
- 32:46Speaker 4: That's what I'm gonna say.
- 32:48Speaker 2: Kay Benzin, like Candy said, Patrick Kelling was one of
- 32:52Speaker 2: the grades so when I was a kid, I used
- 32:54Speaker 2: to follow Michael Jordan Rown. I was a big Jordan fan.
- 32:58Speaker 2: I want to be like Jordan Wall was younger, played best,
- 33:00Speaker 2: but when I was younger that wanted to be like
- 33:02Speaker 2: him when I was younger, and that he had so
- 33:05Speaker 2: many matchups against Patrick Ewing, and Patrick Ewing was one
- 33:10Speaker 2: of the great sinners, like Candy said, but that with
- 33:13Speaker 2: him being with the Knick, I thought he was going
- 33:15Speaker 2: to be a nixt coach prior to this before after
- 33:19Speaker 2: we retired, but they never just never looked at him.
- 33:21Speaker 2: So him coming back to the Necks is perfect.
- 33:26Speaker 1: Pat Riley wanted so bad to get Patrick Ewing a ring. Yeah,
- 33:33Speaker 1: he really did, just like Don Nelson many years ago
- 33:37Speaker 1: wanted to get Bob Lanier a ring. There's certain people
- 33:41Speaker 1: in sports that you want to get a ring for
- 33:44Speaker 1: in the worst way. Don Nelson with Bob Laniar and
- 33:47Speaker 1: pat Riley Okay, with the Knicks. And by the way,
- 33:52Speaker 1: a little footnote on pat Riley, the Lakers are honoring
- 33:55Speaker 1: him with a statue pretty soon. Kudos to the Lakers
- 33:58Speaker 1: are doing that. I just want to mention that don't
- 34:00Speaker 1: have to comment on that. We have other things to
- 34:02Speaker 1: get to But let's talk about the Cincinnati Bengals. Yes, school,
- 34:08Speaker 1: not town. Yeah, I know, I know, says so at
- 34:13Speaker 1: one point. Okay, let's just set the station for my man, Pendman. Okay,
- 34:18Speaker 1: the Bengals a playoff team. Let's hold on. Okay, how
- 34:24Speaker 1: long your enthusiasm. I knew when you were coming out
- 34:28Speaker 1: I had to put this topic on. I know, I
- 34:32Speaker 1: know what I've got here with you, Penman. Let me
- 34:34Speaker 1: go ahead, get this thing out all the way, and
- 34:37Speaker 1: I'm gonna start off with you.
- 34:38Speaker 2: All right, go ahead.
- 34:40Speaker 1: Are the Bengals still a playoff team? Well, you still
- 34:42Speaker 1: have Joe Burrow, but only two point six percent of
- 34:47Speaker 1: the teams that started zering three that made the playoffs.
- 34:50Speaker 1: The Bengals are currently four and seven. They have a
- 34:53Speaker 1: bye week and then they get the face Headman team Pittsburgh.
- 34:57Speaker 1: All right, go ahead, this is your chance if you
- 34:59Speaker 1: want to talk to asked about citin.
- 35:01Speaker 2: Ani, Padman, How can you say that they're a playoff team.
- 35:07Speaker 2: They can't even they're starting to get their offense back,
- 35:10Speaker 2: and I think it's too late. They're four and seven.
- 35:13Speaker 2: It's good and close to the most they can do
- 35:16Speaker 2: is like eight and eight, nine, it's like all the
- 35:18Speaker 2: rest of the teams, the Chiefs, the Bill Steelers, Ravens,
- 35:21Speaker 2: they're all aheadable. It's just I think they're out of time.
- 35:29Speaker 2: It's just that it's not possible.
- 35:32Speaker 1: Coming from a true Pittsburgh Steeler, I can see.
- 35:34Speaker 2: Why we play each other twice.
- 35:38Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, as I said, coming from the true
- 35:42Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steeler, I can see why.
- 35:44Speaker 2: Yeah, God proved me wrong. But I think they're just
- 35:48Speaker 2: out of time. They've lost too many.
- 35:50Speaker 1: Get me wrong. I think they probably are out of time.
- 35:52Speaker 1: But I knew you were coming on the show. I
- 35:54Speaker 1: had to find a topic that would get your goat,
- 35:57Speaker 1: and I evidently managed to do it.
- 35:59Speaker 2: Did not mess as soon as you said, my division.
- 36:02Speaker 2: That's what fires me up, because you got to you
- 36:04Speaker 2: gotta win the division games. That's my motive of my channel.
- 36:07Speaker 2: Anybody that knows watches my channel knows that's my division.
- 36:11Speaker 2: You gotta win the division games. And the Steelers are
- 36:15Speaker 2: they're locked. I mean they're locked. They got Russell Wilson.
- 36:18Speaker 2: They're using justin fields on third down. They they're talking
- 36:21Speaker 2: about using them in the wildcard in the wild in
- 36:23Speaker 2: the uh Wildcat formation and and red resident which they
- 36:27Speaker 2: need to work on. I just can't see it. If
- 36:32Speaker 2: they get in it's by conference, not by division. Am
- 36:37Speaker 2: I wrong? Am I wrong? No?
- 36:38Speaker 1: You're you're I think you're right on target. Yeah, I
- 36:41Speaker 1: think the one thing you're missing. No, Penman, I'm gonna
- 36:44Speaker 1: tell you straight on this show. God Mike Tomlin, if
- 36:47Speaker 1: they had let him go, he would have had more
- 36:49Speaker 1: phone calls. You can imagine he had gotten a job tomorrow.
- 36:53Speaker 1: Is a heck of a coach. I forgot that one,
- 36:55Speaker 1: but I had to make sure we got it all
- 36:57Speaker 1: in all.
- 36:59Speaker 4: So they played the Steelers twice, yet they're not winning
- 37:03Speaker 4: those games. The Steelers are playing good. They play the
- 37:07Speaker 4: Cowboys at the Cowboys, Let's face it, they can win
- 37:10Speaker 4: that game. They play at the Titans, they play versus
- 37:14Speaker 4: the Browns at home, versus the Broncos. Now, you never
- 37:18Speaker 4: know what Bronco team is gonna show up because the
- 37:21Speaker 4: Broncos have been very wishy washy. They've been playing better
- 37:24Speaker 4: as of late, and I think they have their quarterback
- 37:27Speaker 4: doing well. So are they gonna win at least three
- 37:31Speaker 4: of those games? Because if they even if they only
- 37:34Speaker 4: win three of those games, that still puts them seven
- 37:37Speaker 4: And yeah, they're not gonna make I mean, they've made strides,
- 37:41Speaker 4: but yeah, they're not. I don't think they're making playoffs. Yeah, exactly,
- 37:46Speaker 4: and I don't think.
- 37:47Speaker 1: That, Okay, Joe.
- 37:52Speaker 5: Yeah, they're three games out behind Denver.
- 37:56Speaker 3: With what six to go.
- 38:02Speaker 5: And two games against the Steelers. It was a great year.
- 38:06Speaker 5: You know, sit, Jo Borrow. We can give you Tobby DeVito,
- 38:10Speaker 5: start him, let your Locke play for the Giants, or
- 38:12Speaker 5: you know, work that out. But it's not happening this year.
- 38:16Speaker 5: If it does, I would be amazed because it's beyond recognition.
- 38:22Speaker 5: I mean, the Steelers would have to have whatever seed
- 38:25Speaker 5: they are locked up and not care, you know, and
- 38:30Speaker 5: let the Bengals beat them. But even with the rest
- 38:32Speaker 5: of the schedule, you know, they're not gonna win every
- 38:34Speaker 5: one of those games.
- 38:36Speaker 3: They're not that good of a team. Yeah.
- 38:38Speaker 1: The only thing I'll say to close off the topic
- 38:40Speaker 1: is there will not be a Cincinnati Bengals sighting in
- 38:42Speaker 1: New Orleans at the Caesars Super Nope. All right, well,
- 38:46Speaker 1: you know what, we're going to Candy's Neck of the Woods.
- 38:49Speaker 1: You've made Packers, Matt Lefleura, Malik Willis. I cannot articulate
- 38:54Speaker 1: the job that he's done in a short period of time.
- 38:57Speaker 1: People can't fathom that. I promise you, I'm going to
- 39:00Speaker 1: tell you something. When the Green Bay Packers got Malik
- 39:04Speaker 1: Willis for next to nothing, you talk about the best
- 39:08Speaker 1: insurance policy you can get for Jordan Long. This guy
- 39:12Speaker 1: was at he didn't get an opportunity, a fair opportunity
- 39:15Speaker 1: with the Tennessee Titans. And now he's got a guy
- 39:18Speaker 1: like Matt Lafleur who appreciates him. He's working in Green
- 39:22Speaker 1: Bay and all you have to do is me win
- 39:24Speaker 1: a few games and play real well just to be
- 39:27Speaker 1: able to go out there and be a contributor. And
- 39:31Speaker 1: I think Malik Willis is the best kept secret. So
- 39:34Speaker 1: if you want to do your discount, double check again, Penman,
- 39:38Speaker 1: remember one thing, Okay, this guy deserves it more than
- 39:40Speaker 1: mister Rogers because he was the insurance that the Packers
- 39:44Speaker 1: needed in order to stay in the playoff hunt. If
- 39:47Speaker 1: anybody differens with me, put it in the chat. But
- 39:51Speaker 1: Malik Willis have been an excellent story for the Packers
- 39:54Speaker 1: this year. We all see where the Titans have gone.
- 39:57Speaker 1: They obviously have had their problems and if not getting
- 39:59Speaker 1: an easier so Pentlin. Go ahead, what are your thoughts
- 40:04Speaker 1: about Matt Lafleur talking about Malik Willis.
- 40:09Speaker 2: I think he's a good coach, and I don't like
- 40:11Speaker 2: the Packers because don't take this offensive, Candy, But the
- 40:15Speaker 2: Steelers should have beaten the Packers in that Super Bowl.
- 40:18Speaker 2: If Menen Hall did not fumble that ball, the Steelers
- 40:21Speaker 2: would have seven right now, but this is the that
- 40:25Speaker 2: was then, this is now. But I think he's a
- 40:28Speaker 2: good coach. Welike William Willia, I think he was awesome
- 40:31Speaker 2: coming into the draft. I was hoping the Steelers would
- 40:35Speaker 2: draft him because it was right around Ben's retirement. I
- 40:39Speaker 2: was hoping. But with Tennessee, he did not do anything
- 40:42Speaker 2: at Tennessee that was worthwhile. What the Packers are doing
- 40:45Speaker 2: with him is amazing.
- 40:48Speaker 1: Hey, Candy, go ahead.
- 40:51Speaker 4: I think this just goes to show you that some
- 40:54Speaker 4: players excel in certain with certain teams, with certain coaches around.
- 41:01Speaker 4: He walked into a situation. Let's face it, they threw
- 41:05Speaker 4: him in this situation once Jordan Love went down. So
- 41:09Speaker 4: early on, He's completed seventy four almost seventy five percent
- 41:14Speaker 4: of his passes in the games that he did play.
- 41:18Speaker 4: He has a quarterback rating of one hundred and thirty.
- 41:21Speaker 4: That's pretty darn good for your backup quarterback. Like we
- 41:25Speaker 4: just talked about the Giants going from their first stream
- 41:28Speaker 4: quarterback to their third, and here we're talking about Malik Willis. Now,
- 41:32Speaker 4: what I will say is it was a brilliant move
- 41:36Speaker 4: to bring someone like Milik Willis in because our alternative
- 41:41Speaker 4: was not at all where we needed it to be.
- 41:45Speaker 4: So I give the GM or credit for bringing Malik
- 41:50Speaker 4: in there, and then I really give credit to Malik
- 41:56Speaker 4: for working that week and the weeks after to get
- 42:00Speaker 4: up to our and for the coaches to cope and
- 42:04Speaker 4: the rest of the team, because obviously this is a
- 42:07Speaker 4: team sport, and a quarterback only excels if he has
- 42:11Speaker 4: a supporting cast around him. The offensive line have to,
- 42:15Speaker 4: you know, protect him, the running backs. You have to
- 42:18Speaker 4: be both sides of the ball otherwise, if you become
- 42:22Speaker 4: one dimensional, you're not going to excel. And then the
- 42:25Speaker 4: receivers have to be on the same page. And let's
- 42:28Speaker 4: face it, catching passes from different quarterbacks is different. Some
- 42:33Speaker 4: of them have more velocity on them, some of them
- 42:35Speaker 4: have more of a touch throw, some of them Malik
- 42:39Speaker 4: has to get with them, how fast do they run,
- 42:42Speaker 4: how slow do they run? Do they know which the
- 42:46Speaker 4: route that they're supposed to be running. So there's a
- 42:48Speaker 4: lot too quarterbacks with their receivers and gelling quickly. We
- 42:55Speaker 4: all give everybody. We always talk in the beginning of
- 42:58Speaker 4: the season, the first game of the year that nobody
- 43:01Speaker 4: looks good because nobody's got that down pat the timing
- 43:04Speaker 4: the routes exactly because a lot of these quarterbacks don't
- 43:08Speaker 4: play in the preseason, and we talk about that a lot,
- 43:12Speaker 4: So I give I give them Alik a lot of credit.
- 43:15Speaker 1: Well, let's not forget one thing. You know, every position
- 43:19Speaker 1: has their own room, right quarterback, running back and everything.
- 43:22Speaker 1: You got to have a good quarterback room, whether whether
- 43:24Speaker 1: she has a practice squad, guys intermixing with the regulars.
- 43:29Speaker 1: And you know, I've always said you're one play away
- 43:32Speaker 1: from entering the football game. You are, and of course
- 43:35Speaker 1: it has the emergency quarterback. But the reality of the
- 43:38Speaker 1: situation is is Malik Willis was a major upgrade, and
- 43:42Speaker 1: you need two or three good quarterbacks in case your
- 43:44Speaker 1: main guy goes down. I could sit here go into
- 43:47Speaker 1: a million examples about having great backup quarterbacks through the years,
- 43:51Speaker 1: but I don't have the time to do it, but
- 43:52Speaker 1: I will say one that does stand out in my
- 43:54Speaker 1: mind living in this neck of the woods in southern Florida,
- 43:56Speaker 1: when Bob Greasey went down Earl Morel, when I had
- 43:59Speaker 1: took over, and he was a big part of that
- 44:01Speaker 1: undefeated season, No Dolphins won the Super Bowl. But that's
- 44:03Speaker 1: just one of many, many examples. So Joe, what are
- 44:06Speaker 1: your thoughts about the impact that Malik Willis has had?
- 44:09Speaker 1: That mantle floor is probably his biggest hand, So.
- 44:12Speaker 5: I mean right off the bat, though you look at
- 44:14Speaker 5: other teams the Miami Dolphins this year Tua went down,
- 44:18Speaker 5: they had no quarterback play, you know, so how big
- 44:21Speaker 5: and how important is it to have that quality backup quarterback,
- 44:26Speaker 5: you know? And Malik Willis did everything that's asked of him.
- 44:29Speaker 5: He came in not as the starter, not even competing
- 44:32Speaker 5: for the starting job, knowing he was a backup after
- 44:35Speaker 5: he was a starter of the league and was told,
- 44:38Speaker 5: you know, you're going to back up and you're going
- 44:40Speaker 5: to learn our system and hopefully you never get to
- 44:42Speaker 5: play because nobody ever wants to put the backup quarterback in.
- 44:45Speaker 5: And Jordan Love got hurt. Malik Willis had to go
- 44:48Speaker 5: in there and he did nothing but excel. You know,
- 44:51Speaker 5: got to give him a lot of credit for that.
- 44:53Speaker 5: That's all you ever want out of your backup, to
- 44:56Speaker 5: be ready for when your time is called. And again
- 44:59Speaker 5: it goes to the Packers organization. They're a good organization.
- 45:03Speaker 3: You know.
- 45:04Speaker 5: I'm not a Packers fan. I don't like the Packers,
- 45:07Speaker 5: but they do things the right way.
- 45:09Speaker 3: You know.
- 45:10Speaker 5: They damn good coach, they have a good general manager,
- 45:13Speaker 5: and they have a good culture and that's why they do.
- 45:17Speaker 5: They're way ahead of their rebuild where there should have
- 45:19Speaker 5: been right now. This team should not be where they
- 45:22Speaker 5: are right now if you look when Aaron Rodgers left.
- 45:25Speaker 5: But where are they there? They're somewhat of a chance
- 45:29Speaker 5: to win the division. I mean, Detroit's on another level,
- 45:32Speaker 5: but they still have a chance. That's amazing. Who would
- 45:36Speaker 5: think that would be possible?
- 45:38Speaker 4: And William, you are correct. The Packers have an average
- 45:42Speaker 4: age of twenty five point years old. They're the youngest
- 45:47Speaker 4: team in the NFL this season because Preston Smith was traded.
- 45:52Speaker 4: They only have one player over the age of thirty.
- 45:57Speaker 4: One player over the age of thirty. Ye youngest team
- 46:03Speaker 4: this year again.
- 46:04Speaker 1: So let me ask you guys a question. Why don't
- 46:06Speaker 1: you put William Carroffa's question out there and anybody can
- 46:09Speaker 1: answer it. Best young team in your minds that just
- 46:11Speaker 1: needs to develop more. That's an excellent question, William, I
- 46:15Speaker 1: like it. Who you want to It tends when you
- 46:17Speaker 1: take a shot at it first that we'll go around
- 46:19Speaker 1: the horn with that.
- 46:21Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a good question, but nothing is
- 46:25Speaker 2: coming to mind.
- 46:27Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. You don't know. You don't know, Candy,
- 46:30Speaker 1: what do you think.
- 46:33Speaker 4: Best young team in your minds that just needs to
- 46:36Speaker 4: I mean, I would say the Packers right now they
- 46:38Speaker 4: need to develop more. They're they're not hitting their stride yet,
- 46:43Speaker 4: but I think they have a chance. I mean, I
- 46:45Speaker 4: can tell you the three youngest in the league right
- 46:48Speaker 4: now are the Packers. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are the second,
- 46:52Speaker 4: with an average age of twenty five point five to nine,
- 46:55Speaker 4: and the Rams are third at twenty five point seven.
- 47:00Speaker 2: You might you might add the Cowboys now because of
- 47:02Speaker 2: all the injuries. I'm just saying, Candy, you might you
- 47:08Speaker 2: might want to add Cowboys.
- 47:10Speaker 4: Well, and the Packers were one of the youngest teams
- 47:12Speaker 4: in NFL history to win a playoff game because they
- 47:15Speaker 4: were one of the youngest teams last year as well.
- 47:17Speaker 4: So I give kudos to the coach again, to the
- 47:20Speaker 4: coaching staff, and to the players wanting to play together
- 47:25Speaker 4: as a team, because I think it is a lot
- 47:27Speaker 4: about the culture and what's in that locker room. Are
- 47:30Speaker 4: you there to help other people or are you there
- 47:33Speaker 4: for your stats and your stats alone?
- 47:36Speaker 2: If I have to answer that, Scott probably be the Bears.
- 47:40Speaker 1: Okay, well that's a good choice because that's a good
- 47:44Speaker 1: choice because.
- 47:45Speaker 2: You've got JD. Moore, you got more, you got Caleb
- 47:47Speaker 2: Williams that's trying to figure out what to do in
- 47:50Speaker 2: the system. He's got some good numbers games and some
- 47:54Speaker 2: terrible games, but Calb's still trying to figure out what
- 47:57Speaker 2: to do in the league.
- 48:01Speaker 1: Like that, If I don't know how old the Washington
- 48:03Speaker 1: Commanders are, but I do know they have a great
- 48:06Speaker 1: young quarterback. Yeah, I'm gonna say, well thing, I like
- 48:10Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders. They're showing me a lot and they
- 48:13Speaker 1: have an actually coaching Dan Quinn.
- 48:14Speaker 2: So yeah, was awesome.
- 48:19Speaker 4: Twenty fifth?
- 48:21Speaker 1: Well were they really?
- 48:23Speaker 4: And the Bears are twentieth that's surprising.
- 48:26Speaker 1: Well, I'll still take Commanders anyways. I don't care. I
- 48:29Speaker 1: like this team. Go ahead, Joe, what are your thoughts?
- 48:32Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the Chargers. Their skill positions on
- 48:35Speaker 5: offense are all either a couple of years in or rookies,
- 48:41Speaker 5: you know, and they're finally getting developed. Because they were
- 48:46Speaker 5: just thrown at Island. This week, the Chargers did something
- 48:49Speaker 5: they never do. They won a game that they probably
- 48:52Speaker 5: should have lost because they collapsed. But now with Jim
- 48:55Speaker 5: Harboy that, you know, the total culture of the team change.
- 48:59Speaker 5: They showed up, Dobbin's got a key run to seal
- 49:03Speaker 5: the game. You know, they're they're playing different football. It's
- 49:08Speaker 5: a different organization right now. And you know, in all honesty,
- 49:13Speaker 5: if they keep developing, I think that they could challenge
- 49:15Speaker 5: Kansas City for that division next year or the year after.
- 49:20Speaker 2: Well, Harbo's doing with Herbert is awesome. He's developed him
- 49:24Speaker 2: to be a good quarterback.
- 49:26Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 49:28Speaker 1: The last topic of the night that we go to
- 49:30Speaker 1: partying shots and I want to talk about sho Hao Tani.
- 49:34Speaker 1: Jo Heyo Tani hit fifty one home runs and fifty
- 49:36Speaker 1: one stolen base and he had nine games ago on
- 49:39Speaker 1: the schedule when I found his stat here's what he
- 49:42Speaker 1: wound up with, fifty four home runs and fifty nine
- 49:44Speaker 1: stolen bases and won World Series. You talk about a
- 49:47Speaker 1: guy that made an unbelievable change going staying in southern
- 49:52Speaker 1: California from the Angels to the Dodgers. This was unbelievable.
- 49:56Speaker 1: Show heo Tani so as again, this initial stat when
- 49:59Speaker 1: he broke the fifty to fifty club was fifty one
- 50:02Speaker 1: and fifty one and fifty four home runs and fifty
- 50:05Speaker 1: nine sol on bases and the World Series ring isn't bad.
- 50:08Speaker 1: What are you talk Kevin about Penz about Shohio Tani.
- 50:14Speaker 2: I don't like him. I don't like him. I respect him,
- 50:17Speaker 2: but I don't like him. I respect that he can game.
- 50:21Speaker 2: I don't like how he liked I don't like how
- 50:23Speaker 2: he took one of my one of his pictures from me.
- 50:26Speaker 2: We had a good deal with one of the Japanese pictures.
- 50:29Speaker 2: I can't think of it. Scott, you know who I'm
- 50:32Speaker 2: talking about. It's very it's one of the start it's
- 50:35Speaker 2: one of the relief pictures for the Dodgers. But the
- 50:38Speaker 2: Yankees had him. I'm a huge Yankees fan. If you
- 50:41Speaker 2: guys don't know they're out here. But the Yankees had
- 50:44Speaker 2: him locked. I mean, Aaron Boone went to winter meetings
- 50:48Speaker 2: and talked and talked and talked, and the Tany comes over.
- 50:51Speaker 2: He's like, Yo, come over my house. We'll have dinner
- 50:53Speaker 2: and so forth. Right after that, boom, Dodgers got him,
- 50:57Speaker 2: and I just I was like, ah, so I just
- 51:03Speaker 2: I respect him. It's just I don't He's I don't know.
- 51:08Speaker 2: He's one of those players that get onto your skin
- 51:12Speaker 2: because you keep hearing, you keep hearing about him. It's
- 51:14Speaker 2: like a younger Brady. You keep hearing about him.
- 51:18Speaker 1: Well, he seems to have gotten under your skin. He's
- 51:22Speaker 1: he does all right, Candy, what are your thoughts?
- 51:29Speaker 4: How do you not respect a player that does all
- 51:35Speaker 4: that he does? He hits home runs, he has hits,
- 51:39Speaker 4: he steals bases, he pitches, and he plays. I mean,
- 51:44Speaker 4: he's a two way player. When's the next time you
- 51:47Speaker 4: think you're gonna see a two way player as successful
- 51:51Speaker 4: as he is? Not just a two way player, like,
- 51:54Speaker 4: he's truly successful at both sides of it. I mean,
- 52:01Speaker 4: whether you like him or hate him, whether he's on
- 52:04Speaker 4: your team or not on your team, you have to
- 52:07Speaker 4: respect him as a player.
- 52:10Speaker 2: Candy, go and go ahead and review William's the next thing.
- 52:14Speaker 2: This is why, this is what I'm talking about. William
- 52:16Speaker 2: hit that rate perfectly right there. I hate him, but
- 52:22Speaker 2: I love him at the same time. It's one of
- 52:24Speaker 2: those Jeff Gordon's Dalnerd Senior moments. Okay, you hate him,
- 52:31Speaker 2: but you love him at the same time. It's like,
- 52:33Speaker 2: dang it, do something bad, William.
- 52:37Speaker 1: We appreciate your contributions to Night to Chat Room. Great stuff.
- 52:40Speaker 1: Hel So go ahead, Kandy, are you done with your
- 52:45Speaker 1: thought about old Connie?
- 52:47Speaker 4: I mean, most people root for their their team, but
- 52:55Speaker 4: here's a guy that I don't know. I mean, I
- 52:59Speaker 4: get it, you don't. You want to see success, but
- 53:01Speaker 4: you don't want to see success. But I give him
- 53:06Speaker 4: a lot of credit for all the success he's already
- 53:08Speaker 4: had and he's not from the United States, like he's
- 53:15Speaker 4: had to do it coming over here.
- 53:18Speaker 3: So yeah, okay, Jill, listen.
- 53:26Speaker 5: He is arguably in the conversation as one of the
- 53:30Speaker 5: greatest baseball players of all time. So he proved that
- 53:34Speaker 5: again this year because we were talking about that before
- 53:36Speaker 5: this year. So you know, in twenty thirty years when
- 53:40Speaker 5: we say who is the greatest baseball player all time?
- 53:43Speaker 5: Used to be Ruth Mantle, Maze Bonds. Now it'll be
- 53:49Speaker 5: those four names, and Otani'll be thrown in there. No
- 53:52Speaker 5: one will ever be wrong whoever you pick, because all
- 53:55Speaker 5: of them are phenomenal and you can't compare because they
- 53:58Speaker 5: don't they ever play together. But I mean, you can't
- 54:02Speaker 5: go wrong with any of them. And that's the way
- 54:05Speaker 5: O Toi's career has been.
- 54:07Speaker 1: Let's say this about show HEO Tani like him or not.
- 54:11Speaker 1: The Japanese ratings for the World Series were off the charts.
- 54:15Speaker 1: They put their numbers were unbelievable, and I'll say this,
- 54:19Speaker 1: more power to them. The only problem he hadn't with
- 54:22Speaker 1: the Angels. They didn't put players around him they could win.
- 54:24Speaker 1: Don't blame them for leaving. Stay in southern California. The
- 54:27Speaker 1: Dodgers will buy anything they want and they'll keep winning
- 54:30Speaker 1: with that budget or lack thereof that they have. So
- 54:33Speaker 1: Tani's good for the game. I remember talking to Don
- 54:37Speaker 1: Manningly over at low Depot Park about Otani and Don
- 54:42Speaker 1: and I had a great talk about him and Kandy.
- 54:45Speaker 1: We put a video up there that got an awful
- 54:47Speaker 1: lot of views, didn't we most of over two thousand
- 54:50Speaker 1: let alone, because you had Don Manningly talking about show
- 54:54Speaker 1: Heyo Tani. That to me was unbelievable. But show Hey's
- 54:57Speaker 1: good for the game. He's good for the international game.
- 55:00Speaker 1: And I hope that as a Hall of Fame voting
- 55:04Speaker 1: comes to a conclusion in January, that another Japanese player
- 55:09Speaker 1: gets in there by the name of Ichiro Suzuki, because
- 55:12Speaker 1: a guy like Ichiro Suzuki paved the way for guys
- 55:16Speaker 1: like sho Heyo Tani to get in. And I'll even
- 55:20Speaker 1: go back kid Decky Matsui, the Yankee as well as
- 55:23Speaker 1: another guy that should be recognized. So these Japanese, these
- 55:28Speaker 1: Japanese players here are doing an unbelievable job coming to
- 55:32Speaker 1: the United States. And I'll tell you one thing, their
- 55:35Speaker 1: home people are following them. Dandy and I went ahead
- 55:39Speaker 1: and covered an Angels game in spring training, and my
- 55:43Speaker 1: buddy Tim Mead was a PR guy and got us
- 55:45Speaker 1: in there. And I'll never forget the amount of Japanese
- 55:49Speaker 1: reporters that were over there. It was just unbelievable at
- 55:52Speaker 1: Tempe Diavo Stadium there. So shoe Heyotani is everything good?
- 55:56Speaker 1: For the game and be with the Dodgers. You can't
- 55:59Speaker 1: ask them what better fat, You really can't. So more
- 56:03Speaker 1: power to show. Hey, now there's their point to show
- 56:06Speaker 1: where we talk about partying shot Penglin, do you have one?
- 56:10Speaker 1: How about what you want?
- 56:13Speaker 2: I want to say that Penguins need to fix something something,
- 56:20Speaker 2: I don't care what it is. They are horrible. They
- 56:22Speaker 2: can't keep a lead. I don't know if it's the GM,
- 56:26Speaker 2: I don't know if it's the coach. They need to
- 56:28Speaker 2: do something. I want to talk about this. The Winnipeg
- 56:33Speaker 2: Jets are coming into town, and you guys talked about
- 56:36Speaker 2: last Wednesday that they were undefeated. I think they've lost
- 56:39Speaker 2: the game since then. But the Penguins need to do
- 56:42Speaker 2: something in order to get some fight into them. They
- 56:45Speaker 2: were one game, one point back of the playoffs, and
- 56:49Speaker 2: then they slip back. That's what irks me. It's like,
- 56:54Speaker 2: what do they need to do? I talked to my
- 56:57Speaker 2: subscribers at least said that this is the worst start
- 57:00Speaker 2: NHL history. What do you guys think. I know you guys.
- 57:04Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys fall hockey, but I
- 57:06Speaker 2: know you watch ESPN and I know you watch like
- 57:09Speaker 2: some standings at this point.
- 57:12Speaker 1: Your input, all my input is this, Penguins won for
- 57:17Speaker 1: an awful lot of years, and when you win for
- 57:19Speaker 1: a lot of years, you're not gonna get the better
- 57:21Speaker 1: draft choices, and you're gonna fall off and you're gonna
- 57:23Speaker 1: have to rebuild. That's what happens with every great team.
- 57:26Speaker 1: And the players were getting older. That's pretty much the
- 57:28Speaker 1: nature of it. Okay, I mean that happened with the
- 57:32Speaker 1: Detroit Red Wings a lot of years, twenty five straight
- 57:34Speaker 1: years in the playoffs, right, And what do you think happens? Well,
- 57:37Speaker 1: you know you can't keep living off of late round picks,
- 57:40Speaker 1: let alone late round first round picks. A lot of
- 57:42Speaker 1: your better players are there. But do you want to
- 57:44Speaker 1: win or do you want to or you're gonna lose
- 57:46Speaker 1: for a period of time. That just goes to that.
- 57:48Speaker 1: But the Penguins had their run of Stanley Cups. Red
- 57:50Speaker 1: Wings did as well.
- 57:52Speaker 2: Right, played each other, We played each other two years
- 57:54Speaker 2: in a row, back to back, two years, eight, eight, no. Nine.
- 57:58Speaker 1: Well, there were good rivals even before, well, while they
- 58:01Speaker 1: were in the same conference many years ago before they
- 58:03Speaker 1: went over. So the Remlings and Penguins a vote. Yeah,
- 58:06Speaker 1: but my opinion is, if you're going to start having
- 58:08Speaker 1: rough years for a while, at least you were able
- 58:11Speaker 1: to enjoy the fruits of your labor and you got
- 58:12Speaker 1: cups in your pocket. Right, Okay, that's what I think.
- 58:18Speaker 1: And of course William mentioned the Golden State Warriors. There
- 58:21Speaker 1: you go, another great example. Thanks William. All Right, Danny
- 58:23Speaker 1: with your thoughts, Oh well, no, give me your parting shots.
- 58:26Speaker 1: That was his parting shot.
- 58:28Speaker 4: My parting shot is kudos to the Baseball Writers Association
- 58:32Speaker 4: of America. On Tuesday, twenty seven of thirty ballots came
- 58:38Speaker 4: through for Pat Murphy to win National League Manager of
- 58:43Speaker 4: the Year in his first year as Brewers manager. He
- 58:47Speaker 4: is the first Brewers manager to win Manager of the Year.
- 58:54Speaker 4: He will be turned he turns twenty six on November
- 58:57Speaker 4: twenty eighth, and he just did a phenomenal job. Let's
- 59:02Speaker 4: face it, when when Craig Counsel left to go to
- 59:07Speaker 4: the Cubs, everybody thought the Brewers aren't going to do
- 59:11Speaker 4: anything this year. It's going to be a rebuilding year.
- 59:14Speaker 4: We saw lots of changes and yet a first time
- 59:20Speaker 4: manager won a Manager of the Year. So kudos to
- 59:24Speaker 4: the job he did. How he rallied how he got
- 59:27Speaker 4: the team behind him. And if you saw his acceptance speech,
- 59:33Speaker 4: he accepted it on zoom and his son is in
- 59:36Speaker 4: the background. So it just it was a cool moment.
- 59:39Speaker 4: Kudos to him, and kudos to the baseball writers forgetting
- 59:42Speaker 4: it right.
- 59:44Speaker 1: Okay, Joe, what's your party shot?
- 59:47Speaker 5: So tonight I had some time in between shows and
- 59:50Speaker 5: I got to watch a movie. The movie was greater
- 59:53Speaker 5: on Netflix. It was about Brandon Burlsworth, who was a
- 1:00:00Speaker 5: walk on to Arkansas in the nineties and drafted by
- 1:00:03Speaker 5: the Indianapolis Cults. He ended up getting killed in a
- 1:00:08Speaker 5: car accident after he was drafted, never played.
- 1:00:11Speaker 3: In the NFL.
- 1:00:12Speaker 5: What a great movie, though, and what a great inspirational
- 1:00:16Speaker 5: figure he was. If you like movies like Rudy, you know,
- 1:00:21Speaker 5: this is definitely one of them, like that phenomenal. You know,
- 1:00:26Speaker 5: there was some good actors in there. It was just
- 1:00:29Speaker 5: it was a fun movie and it was you know,
- 1:00:31Speaker 5: sad at the end, obviously, But I honestly don't remember,
- 1:00:35Speaker 5: uh remember Brandon at all. Trying to, you know, think back,
- 1:00:39Speaker 5: I'm trying to think, you know, when it happened and everything,
- 1:00:41Speaker 5: but I don't remember them. But it's a shame because
- 1:00:45Speaker 5: what an inspiring individual. You know. They actually give out
- 1:00:49Speaker 5: an award now for the most impactful walk on every
- 1:00:54Speaker 5: year in his name. His family started a foundation to
- 1:01:00Speaker 5: provide I care for children that you know can't afford it. Yeah,
- 1:01:05Speaker 5: just great. They look like the great people, and it's
- 1:01:08Speaker 5: just a shame of what happened. You know, it was
- 1:01:11Speaker 5: a great movie. I worth the time.
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: Okay, I've got a party shot. They're building up with
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: me all day and we'll talk about Tom Herman, Candy
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: o Lynch in it too. I got to know Tom Herman, well,
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: he's a really super nice guy. And I hope he
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: lands another job as an offensive coordinator in a power
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: for a conference of that's what he choose to desire.
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: But the one thing I prowned upon in my book
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: is trying to get it on there and it doesn't
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: become true all day long. I don't know whether it's
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: ESPN and some of the other media outlets were saying
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: that ray Lewis is a candidate for the FAU job,
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: and FAU vehemently denied it. I can tell you right now,
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: I am so sick and tired of all these news outlets.
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: In ESPN is guilty of it as anybody else putting
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: stuff out there before you have the before the ink
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: has gone dry and a contract is signed. Part of
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: being an our network is the fact that you yet
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: media distribution list. That's what I know. News is final.
- 1:02:14Speaker 1: Is ray lewis qualified to be the head football coach
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: at Floria Atlantic University. I'm going to tell you right now,
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: absolutely not. I'll tell you why. The guy has never
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: coached anywhere before. This is a very, very grueling industry.
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: He needs to get experience, let alone at the high
- 1:02:32Speaker 1: school level or a smaller Division III level or whatever.
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: But he's not ready to take on an FAU job
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: right now. He is not a name appeal is one thing,
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: but there's a fine line between name appeal common sen
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: learning about the NIL as well as the transfer portal. Now.
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: I know Deon Sanders has done a good job, but
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: Dion Sanders at least started at Jackson State and then
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: he goes to Colorado and he did a good job
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: at Jackson State, and he doesn't even really want to
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: leave Colorado. Everybody's pressing him about leaving. Dion Sanders would
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: love to be a big man on campus at Colorado
- 1:03:10Speaker 1: and he's done an exceptional job. So for those of
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: you that are reporting out there that ray Lewis would
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: be an excellent candidate for the FPAU job, you don't
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. Because I've gone out there
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: and covered this university for a lot of years. I
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: have They have a nice on campus facility. Problem is that,
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: because of their one loss record, they haven't been able
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: to put many people in the stands. It's a shame.
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: There's no reason why they should be able to draw.
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: They have a thirty thousand seat stadium, and sometimes attendance
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: figures are actually mentioned of how many tickets sold, not
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: how many showed up. Problem is that the sold tickets
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: aren't going to get you over at the concession stand.
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: That's what it's all about.
- 1:03:48Speaker 2: Now.
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: I know Brian White, the athletic director as well Ryan
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: Wright isn't going to go out there and make a
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: hire this way without doing his research. Do you think
- 1:03:57Speaker 1: that this man wants to be back in this situation
- 1:04:00Speaker 1: two three years from now. Usually what will happen is
- 1:04:02Speaker 1: if you have a young coach that's any good, they're
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: gonna get another job anyways to me, so they're gonna
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: use you as a stepping stone they will. But the
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: main thing is is, you know we're talking about like
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: William said, God, everyone needs experienced taking careers in an
- 1:04:20Speaker 1: end might be a great guy, but that's not the point.
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: You're right, okay, the reality And that's a great comment William.
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: People have to crawl before they can walk. Ray Lewis
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: hasn't done that. Once upon a time, Ray Lewis was
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: in a situation in Atlanta involving murders he and he
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: did not get convicted because he ran it on his
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: friends to save his rear. Rand. I'm not saying that
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: he hasn't learned from that situation and he's not a
- 1:04:50Speaker 1: bad guy. The graduation. He graduated from the University of Miami,
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: had an outstanding career with the Baltimore Ravens man Josia
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: ferocious player out there and obviously as a Super Bowl
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: ring the chauffeur, and everybody deserves an opportunity to learn
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: from their mistakes. Heck, I did a show on Monday
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: about what does Trevor Bauer deserve another chance to go MLB?
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: And you know what I said on it? I said
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: yes because you know why I said yes? Because I
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: think he's learned this lesson he played in Japan, Mexico,
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: and there were some things that were falsely accused. But
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: the reality is is this. I am so sick and
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: tired of everybody wanting to put it on first until
- 1:05:30Speaker 1: it's completely signed, sealed and delivered. But that's what we have.
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: That's what my book is about, old school media versus
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: new school media. Okay, and that's what and the new
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: school media at times makes me all sick to my
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: stomach because everybody's worrying about clicks, but get it right.
- 1:05:46Speaker 1: And the one person for those of you that want
- 1:05:49Speaker 1: to buy this book that I talk about a lot
- 1:05:52Speaker 1: is Frank Reynolds of ABC News, who had to deal
- 1:05:55Speaker 1: with this situation during the Ronald Reagan assassination attempt. So
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: I don't know who the next FTERU coaches. I'm looking
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: forward to working with that individual. If it Israe lewis fine.
- 1:06:06Speaker 1: At least I know that Brian White has done his
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: due diligence and then I have no problem. But two
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: three days after the fact that Tom Herman was let go,
- 1:06:15Speaker 1: he knew that. He once told me that it takes
- 1:06:18Speaker 1: at least three years to build a program. But I
- 1:06:20Speaker 1: could see his frustration at the USF game when he
- 1:06:23Speaker 1: went out there after the game and got into Alex
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: Goldish face for us that I hated to see the
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: game go four hours and got in his face. Yeah,
- 1:06:34Speaker 1: it was another game to lose by a lot of points.
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: But the reality is Tom was frustrated and he felt
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: that it was time to maybe go back to a
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: power force school. He gave it a shot. He's been
- 1:06:46Speaker 1: a winning coach and I hope I wish Tom and
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: his family nothing but the past, and I even gave
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: him a MotorCity mad Mouth hat, but he requested one
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: of the lead and an athletic director, and I know
- 1:06:56Speaker 1: that we had a wonderful relationship. So God blessed Tom Hermer,
- 1:07:00Speaker 1: and I hope that if you gets it right, they
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: have done it because in the spirit of the late
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: Howard Snellenberger, Howard Schnellenberger took this program and built it
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: from scratch. And I think one of the greatest things
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: I've ever had was working with Coach Stellenberger. So God
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: blessed to you, Tom. It's been fun working with you,
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: and I truly hope Brian what and the rest of
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: this school makes it their next hire a good one, Candy,
- 1:07:25Speaker 1: you've been around anything else you want to add to this.
- 1:07:27Speaker 4: No, that's I mean, that's it's true. Like, stop reporting
- 1:07:31Speaker 4: things that aren't true. You're just trying to feed into,
- 1:07:35Speaker 4: you know, the mainstream to try and get clicks and
- 1:07:38Speaker 4: stuff like that. I get it, but you got to
- 1:07:41Speaker 4: back up with some facts before you can start reporting
- 1:07:44Speaker 4: things that are way off base.
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: Pretty much and is not on my end. I want to
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: thank everybody in the chat room for participating on this
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: edition of the Sports of cham Petheran. I'm glad that
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: you were on the night. George Iiicorn is on assignment
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: doing what he has to do, But Pentland me a
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: lot of stuff, buddy, Yeah, go ahead, by all means.
- 1:08:05Speaker 2: Stop stop saying Dion Sanders is the next Dallas cowboy
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: coach if he likes Colorado leave the man alone legend
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: coach in Colorado. He's not. He's a cowboy legend. I
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: get it. But he also was a Fucon I get it,
- 1:08:24Speaker 2: but do not take him. I've never heard him say
- 1:08:29Speaker 2: that I'm going to move to the NFL. The only
- 1:08:31Speaker 2: thing he said is he's going to help his son
- 1:08:35Speaker 2: pick a team in the NFL, and that's what a
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: good father should do. But he didn't say I'm leaving Colorado.
- 1:08:43Speaker 2: Stop reporting stuff that's not true. Get your facts straight.
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: Well said, I agree. I don't think he's leaving Toronto.
- 1:08:51Speaker 2: I don't think so either for Dallas.
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: If he goes anywhere else is one thing. But he's
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: not going to Dallas in that show, freak show that
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: you have over there called the Cowboy. Great point. I'm
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: glad you also mentioned that. I want to thank everybody
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: once again in the chat room for participating. I also
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: want to say, Pemman, you've been a great job here
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: on Wednesday night. Maybe we'll even bring on as a
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: fit person to the show and Icorn zunk back. But
- 1:09:15Speaker 1: you hoiled yourself real well. I'm really proud of you.
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: Yeah, George is a Michigan guy, so as you can
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: see im too, so it will work.
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: That's good. So all right, Candy take us the rest.
- 1:09:24Speaker 3: Of the way.
- 1:09:27Speaker 4: Last year we published the self Flours book. It is
- 1:09:31Speaker 4: called Lessons from the Microphone, Tuning into the Enduring Wisdom
- 1:09:33Speaker 4: and visionary leader Scott has talked about it. It talks
- 1:09:36Speaker 4: about his forty plus years in the industry and how
- 1:09:38Speaker 4: it has changed over those forty years. Get your copy today, Amazon,
- 1:09:43Speaker 4: Barnes and Noble, Google and Apple Books. Audio book hopefully
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- 1:09:53Speaker 4: We're working on it as we speak. There's a link
- 1:09:56Speaker 4: on our website that you can go to get at
- 1:09:59Speaker 4: www www dot South Florida Tribune dot com. Scott writes JB. Wrights.
- 1:10:08Speaker 4: I take pictures. You never know, maybe we even get
- 1:10:11Speaker 4: Pensman to write something one of these days.
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: You never know, JP that we're talking about tonight, so
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: we'll see.
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- 1:10:51Speaker 4: You never know what we'll be talking about. The same
- 1:10:53Speaker 4: tomorrow night on Fire Up. You just never know, although
- 1:10:55Speaker 4: we will have our Thanksgiving edition tomorrow night since we
- 1:10:58Speaker 4: will be taking Thanksgiving off, so if you want to
- 1:11:02Speaker 4: catch our Thanksgiving edition, it'll be tomorrow night at nine o'clock.
- 1:11:07Speaker 4: Preceding us tomorrow night is Fire Up Florida, which is
- 1:11:09Speaker 4: Scott's Hockey show where they talk hockey, and then preceding
- 1:11:16Speaker 4: this tonight was on No Filter dot Net, Scott had
- 1:11:19Speaker 4: the MotorCity Madmouse Show. If you want to sponsor a
- 1:11:23Speaker 4: show or advertised, call Scott nine five four three four
- 1:11:26Speaker 4: four one. If you missed any of it, it's been
- 1:11:30Speaker 4: scrolling on the bottom, JB. How can people get a
- 1:11:33Speaker 4: hold of you?
- 1:11:35Speaker 3: JB?
- 1:11:35Speaker 5: I'llder scroll the program on x sidelinesportsnet dot com, Sideline
- 1:11:41Speaker 5: sports net dot com, the website Candy designed it.
- 1:11:46Speaker 3: I right on there.
- 1:11:47Speaker 5: Scott sometimes writes on there idios some pictures. I'm sure
- 1:11:51Speaker 5: they're up there, and the rest of the Sidelline Sports
- 1:11:54Speaker 5: people see you all about the Super Bowl and everything
- 1:11:57Speaker 5: else that we do. Their great website.
- 1:12:01Speaker 4: Yes, Pensman, how can people get ahold of you?
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: I have a channel of Pensman Sports, so I have
- 1:12:07Speaker 2: six hundred and thirty two subscribers. I'm trying to get
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: to a thousand by Christmas time, So if you guys
- 1:12:13Speaker 2: would kindly subscribe, I appreciate it, and I'm going to
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: excellent Pensman Sports.
- 1:12:19Speaker 4: Okay, Scott, back to you.
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: Well, depends on with your tenacity. I see no reason
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: why you're not going to pick up subscribers. There's no
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: doubt about it. I love your Tennassy, and your determination.
- 1:12:29Speaker 1: The fact that you're really knowledgeable love stuff. So we're
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: looking forward to having anything a lot of as many
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: shows as you want to come on. And of course
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: we enjoyed the partnership that we have with Sideline supports
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: as well. It's had a lot of fun with Joe
- 1:12:40Speaker 1: and the rest of the game. So meanwhile, on behalf
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: of Pensman Candy Jbellis. My name is Scott Morgan ro
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us in this edition of the
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: Sports Exchange. We will not be doing a Sports Exchange
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: next Wednesday night. So Happy thanks Giving to everybody. Enjoy
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: the family, enjoy the food, and feel free to tell
- 1:12:59Speaker 1: us your stories the chat room about how good your
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: Thanksgiving was. There are some games, a lot to watch.
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: Candies get the Packers and the Dolphins. I get the
- 1:13:07Speaker 1: Lions and the Bears, and somebody has to deal with
- 1:13:10Speaker 1: the Dallas Companies New York Giants. Oh well, it is
- 1:13:15Speaker 1: what it is. What can I say but thank you
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: very much for joining us. Happy Thanksgiving and we will
- 1:13:20Speaker 1: see you in two weeks. Good night, everybody,