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Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein And The Police Report That Exposed Him (Part 5-7) (11/7/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: In this episode we're going to pick up where we
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: left off with the Palm Beach Police report from the
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: initial investigation into Jeffrey Epstein and his crimes. The victim
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  Speaker 1: agreed and arrangements were made to bring the victim to
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's house on a weekend. Redacted stated that she and Redacted,
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  Speaker 1: later identified as Redacted, picked up the victim at the
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  Speaker 1: victim's house. They traveled to Epstein's house and entered through
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  Speaker 1: the kitchen door. They met with the house chef and
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's assistant, Sarah. The victim was introduced to Epstein while
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  Speaker 1: they were in the kitchen area. Sarah led the victim upstairs,
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  Speaker 1: and Epstein went upstairs. When the massage was over, the
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  Speaker 1: victim returned to the kitchen area. Redacted stated that she
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  Speaker 1: was paid $ 200 to bring the victim to Epstein's. Redacted
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  Speaker 1: stated that the victim told her that she was paid
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  Speaker 1: $ 300 for the massage. Back in the vehicle, Redacted asked
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  Speaker 1: the victim what happened. The victim told her about the
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  Speaker 1: massage and then they went shopping. Redacted stated that the
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  Speaker 1: victim was the last person she brought to Epstein. She
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  Speaker 1: further stated that she had changed her cellular number to
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  Speaker 1: avoid being contacted by Sarah. She continued that when Epstein
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  Speaker 1: announced to his assistant that he is traveling to Palm Beach,
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  Speaker 1: Sarah would contact Redacted to arrange girls for Epstein. Sarah,
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  Speaker 1: later identified as Sarah Kellen, date of birth redacted, had
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  Speaker 1: told redacted that Jeff likes to have fun with all
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  Speaker 1: the girls. So again, just to interject here, Sarah Kellen
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  Speaker 1: Vickers' name brought up all over these court documents and nothing?
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  Speaker 1: She's not brought in, she's not the poe, she's not
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  Speaker 1: held to account? I wonder why. Redacted stated that once
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  Speaker 1: her parents discovered that she was visiting Epstein, they disapproved
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  Speaker 1: of the encounters with him and she stopped. Redacted further
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  Speaker 1: stated that Sarah still tries to call the house and
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  Speaker 1: leave messages. With the assistance of Redacted, we were able
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  Speaker 1: to identify Redacted, DOB Redacted, Redacted and Redacted, Redacted one
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  Speaker 1: more time, and another Redaction. Sergeant Frick entered the room
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  Speaker 1: and explained that based on her own statements, she had
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  Speaker 1: implicated herself with bringing underage girls to Epstein's house. Redacted
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  Speaker 1: was aware of what she had stated and wished to
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  Speaker 1: assist further in hopes to receive a lesser charge. Redacted
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  Speaker 1: provided cellular telephone numbers for the girls she had mentioned previously. Additionally,
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  Speaker 1: she also provided possible addresses and areas in which they lived.
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  Speaker 1: As Redacted was being taken home in the vehicle, a
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  Speaker 1: tape recorder was placed within the vehicle to record any
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  Speaker 1: conversations within the vehicle. During the drive back to her home,
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  Speaker 1: Redacted made the comment, I'm like a Heidi Fleiss, Hollywood madam,
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  Speaker 1: who sent girls to clients for sexual favors in California.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted was dropped off at her house without incident. Sergeant
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  Speaker 1: Frick and I went to Redacted, Loxahatchee, Florida, in an
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  Speaker 1: attempt to speak with Redacted. We met with the ongoing
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  Speaker 1: investigation and felt that Redacted may have additional information as
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  Speaker 1: we had information that she had worked for Jeff. Ms.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted introduced us to her husband and allowed us entry
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  Speaker 1: into the home. We sat in the dining room and
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  Speaker 1: met with Redacted As she was underage of 18, Ms.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted was advised we would be speaking with her. She
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  Speaker 1: expressed if her daughter had information, she wanted to assist.
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  Speaker 1: As we interviewed Redacted, she denied having any inappropriate encounters
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  Speaker 1: with Jeff. She stated she had gone to Jeff's house
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  Speaker 1: with Haley Robson approximately eight months ago and sat in
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  Speaker 1: the kitchen with the house chef, but nothing happened. As
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  Speaker 1: the parents were present during the interview, we felt that
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  Speaker 1: Redacted was withholding information from us, She made several comments
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  Speaker 1: as to she has put the entire incident behind her.
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  Speaker 1: I left my direct phone number and advised should she
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  Speaker 1: wish to speak with me again to telephone me. Sergeant
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  Speaker 1: Frick and I thanked Miss Redacted for her time and
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  Speaker 1: left the area. She stated she would ask her again
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  Speaker 1: after we left as to what happened at Epstein's house.
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  Speaker 1: I informed her that Redacted had my telephone number and
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  Speaker 1: hopefully she would call. Sergeant Frick and I then attempted
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  Speaker 1: to contact Redacted at Redacted in Loxahatchee. We met with
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  Speaker 1: Redacted who stated Redacted was her daughter. Redacted was at
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  Speaker 1: the Wellington Mall and she was not home. We explained
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  Speaker 1: the ongoing investigation and felt that Redacted may have additional
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  Speaker 1: information as we had information that she had worked for Jeff.
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  Speaker 1: We left our phone numbers and asked her to telephone
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  Speaker 1: me upon her daughter's return. We then left the area.
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  Speaker 1: On October 4, 2005, at approximately 8.05 a.m., Sergeant Frick
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  Speaker 1: had retrieved a voicemail message from Redacted. She stated she
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  Speaker 1: had spoken with her daughter and she had information as
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  Speaker 1: to what occurred at Jeff's house. I contacted Redacted, who
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  Speaker 1: stated her daughter was in the shower at the moment
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  Speaker 1: and would be traveling back to Orlando to attend college.
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  Speaker 1: I informed her I would be en route to her
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  Speaker 1: home in Loxahatchee. Detective Dawson and I drove to the home,
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  Speaker 1: and met with redacted and redacted. During a sworn tape statement,
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  Speaker 1: redacted stated that she was taken to the house by
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  Speaker 1: Haley Robson. She was told she could make money working
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  Speaker 1: for Jeff. She was told she would have to provide
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  Speaker 1: a massage to Jeff. Redacted stated, upon her arrival to
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  Speaker 1: the house, she was brought to the kitchen area by Robson.
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  Speaker 1: They met with the house chef, and Haley stayed in
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  Speaker 1: the kitchen. She was introduced to Sarah, Jeff's assistant, and
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  Speaker 1: was brought upstairs to the master bedroom. Sarah prepared the
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  Speaker 1: room and massage table for a massage. Epstein entered the
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  Speaker 1: room and she provided a massage. Redacted stated that she
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  Speaker 1: kept her clothes on during the massage. She stated sometime
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  Speaker 1: during the massage, Epstein grabbed her buttocks and pulled her
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  Speaker 1: close to him. Redacted said that she was weirded out
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  Speaker 1: by the incident involving Jeff. At the conclusion of the massage,
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  Speaker 1: she was paid $ 200 for the massage. I asked Redacted
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  Speaker 1: if she had any formal training in massages to which
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  Speaker 1: she replied no. I asked her if Robson received any
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  Speaker 1: monies for taking her to perform the massage. Redacted stated
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  Speaker 1: Robson also received money for taking her there. Redacted stated
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  Speaker 1: she went with Robson and another girl redacted to Jeff's
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  Speaker 1: house once. Redacted stated that she waited in the kitchen
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  Speaker 1: with Robson while redacted was taken upstairs by Sarah. Redacted
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  Speaker 1: stated she only did the massage once as she was
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  Speaker 1: weirded out by the whole experience. At the conclusion of
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  Speaker 1: the interview and the tape was stopped. I was informed
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  Speaker 1: that Sarah had attempted to reach Redacted via cell phone.
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  Speaker 1: A voicemail message on October 4, 2005, at 10.59 a.m.,
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  Speaker 1: revealed a female voice who identified herself as Sarah, who
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  Speaker 1: requested her to call her back, reference the police questioning.
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  Speaker 1: The voicemail message was recorded onto a microcassette. Again, Sarah
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  Speaker 1: Kellan trying to gum up the works, and somehow Sarah
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  Speaker 1: Kellan was never arrested? This voicemail message was recorded onto
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  Speaker 1: a microcassette, provided the incoming telephone number as redacted, and
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  Speaker 1: redacted stated she inadvertently told redacted about the police investigation
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  Speaker 1: because redacted had called her to tell her about how
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  Speaker 1: she had just received a rental car from Jeff Epstein.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted had called her to tell her that she was
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  Speaker 1: given a rental car, a silver Nissan Sentra, to utilize
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  Speaker 1: to visit family and to visit Jeff. Redacted asked her
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  Speaker 1: what was going on at the house that the police
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  Speaker 1: would be asking questions. Redacted stated that Redacted then called
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  Speaker 1: Jeff and Sarah and asked what was going on in
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  Speaker 1: reference to the ongoing police investigation. According to Redacted, Sarah
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  Speaker 1: has since then been trying to contact her to ask
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  Speaker 1: about the police questions. I instructed Redacted not to contact
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  Speaker 1: Sarah and do not provide any more information to Redacted
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  Speaker 1: as she would notify Jeff Epstein and Sarah what was transpiring.
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  Speaker 1: Now we're jumping over to the narrative of Lee Lamont.
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  Speaker 1: On March 30th, 2005, I was asked by Sergeant Daniel
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  Speaker 1: Czarski to begin conducting surveillance in trash pools, reference Detective
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  Speaker 1: Pagan conducting a criminal investigation involving Jeffrey Epstein. I was
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  Speaker 1: advised that Epstein was possibly engaging in sexual contact with
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  Speaker 1: young females. On March 30th, 2005, I made contact with
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  Speaker 1: town of Palm Beach Sanitation Office Supervisor Tony Higgins and
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  Speaker 1: requested trash pools for 358 El Brío Way to begin
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  Speaker 1: on March 31, 2005. On March 31, 2005, at 9.20 a.m.,
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  Speaker 1: I responded to the area of 358 El Brío Way
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  Speaker 1: and met with Town of Palm Beach Sanitation employee Jeffrey Williams.
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  Speaker 1: I observed Williams enter the driveway of 358 El Brío Way,
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  Speaker 1: collect the trash bags from Epstein's property, and place the
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  Speaker 1: contents into an empty sanitation truck. I followed Williams to
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  Speaker 1: a nearby area where he turned over 17 white plastic
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  Speaker 1: bags which were collected from the Epstein property. I took
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  Speaker 1: the trash bags to the sanitation department where I sifted
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  Speaker 1: through its contents. I collected mail correspondence from Armani Exchange
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  Speaker 1: addressed to Nadia Marcinkova, Jeffrey Epstein, notepaper with redacted an
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  Speaker 1: important message, notepaper addressed to J.E. dated 32905, At 8.15,
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  Speaker 1: reference redacted U.S. Airways boarding pass copy for passenger Janus Banasik,
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  Speaker 1: Montgomery County, Maryland Health Department food service ID redacted for
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  Speaker 1: Janus Banasik and Ghislaine Maxwell notepaper with names and phone numbers.
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  Speaker 1: Photocopies of the trash collected were attached with the supplement.
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  Speaker 1: Detective Pagan was advised of the contents that were collected
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  Speaker 1: for evidentiary value. On March 31, 2005, Sergeant Daniel Czarski
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  Speaker 1: requested that I set up surveillance vehicle on El Brío
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  Speaker 1: Way and conduct video surveillance of the front exterior of
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's residence. At 3 p.m., I set up a surveillance
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  Speaker 1: vehicle equipped with a video monitoring device. The surveillance vehicle
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  Speaker 1: was parked on Elbrio Way, approximately 50 feet east of
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  Speaker 1: Epstein's driveway. The purpose of the video surveillance was to
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  Speaker 1: gather investigative intelligence by monitoring and recording all vehicle and
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  Speaker 1: pedestrian traffic entering and leaving Epstein's property. The video surveillance
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  Speaker 1: tapes were changed daily with a new Maxwell T-160 VHS tape.
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  Speaker 1: Video surveillance was established for Epstein's from March 31, 2005
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  Speaker 1: through April 5, 2005. On April 5, 2005, video surveillance
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  Speaker 1: was concluded. I reviewed the videotapes and advised Detective Pagan
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  Speaker 1: the surveillance videos yielded no evidentiary value. On April 1, 2005,
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  Speaker 1: at 9.30 a.m., I responded to the area of 358
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  Speaker 1: El Brío Way to meet with Town of Palm Beach
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  Speaker 1: sanitation employee Jesse Jones. While parked in the area of
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  Speaker 1: 358 Elbrio Way, waiting to collect Epstein's trash, I observed
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  Speaker 1: a white female who I recognized as Nadia Marcinkova from
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  Speaker 1: her Florida driver's license photograph. I made no contact with Marcinkova.
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  Speaker 1: While parked in the area, I also observed Epstein's GMC
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  Speaker 1: Yukon truck leave the property, as well as other vehicles
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  Speaker 1: arrive and park across the street from the property. The
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  Speaker 1: occupants of these vehicles appeared to be the housekeepers, maintenance men,
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  Speaker 1: and the gardeners. At 9.38 a.m., I met with Town
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  Speaker 1: of Palm Beach sanitation employee Jesse Jones. I observed Jones
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  Speaker 1: enter the driveway of 358 El Brío Way and collect
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  Speaker 1: the trash from Epstein's property. I followed Jesse to a
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  Speaker 1: predetermined area at which time I collected the trash bags
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  Speaker 1: from the sanitation truck. I transported the trash bags to
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  Speaker 1: the sanitation department. where I sifted through its contents. I
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  Speaker 1: collected mail, correspondence addressed to Jeffrey Epstein, automotive records, and
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  Speaker 1: personal documents for Janice Banasik and Betta Banasik, as well
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  Speaker 1: as Jeffrey Epstein notepaper with the names and appointment times
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  Speaker 1: for redacted and redacted. No last names or other personal
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  Speaker 1: information was written on the notepaper. While sifting through Epstein's trash,
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  Speaker 1: I also collected a three-inch purple finger-sized object which had
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  Speaker 1: a broken end, The object appeared to be a broke
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  Speaker 1: piece from a sexual toy similar to a cyclone vibrator,
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  Speaker 1: possibly used for rectal gratification. The sexual object was photographed
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  Speaker 1: for Detective Pagan, packaged in a biohazard evidence bag, possible
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: body fluids, and secured in an investigative evidence. All items
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  Speaker 1: collected from Epstein's trash were turned over to Detective Pagan
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  Speaker 1: for evidentiary purposes. On April 5, 2005, at 9.18 a.m.,
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  Speaker 1: I met with Town of Palm Beach sanitation employee Jesse Jones.
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  Speaker 1: I observed Jones enter the driveway of 358 El Brio
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  Speaker 1: Way and collect the trash from Epstein's property. I followed
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  Speaker 1: Jesse to a predetermined area, at which time I collected
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  Speaker 1: the trash bags from the sanitation truck. I transported the
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  Speaker 1: trash bags to the sanitation department where I sifted through
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  Speaker 1: its contents. I collected mail correspondence addressed to Jeffrey Epstein,
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  Speaker 1: as well as notepaper and Important message with names and
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  Speaker 1: telephone numbers. The following are items collected from Epstein's trash. Redacted.
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  Speaker 1: Blank piece of white paper redacted. Black paper redacted. Black
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  Speaker 1: paper redacted. David redacted. MSN Hotmail webpage with the email
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  Speaker 1: address redacted. The following items were documented for Detective Pagan
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: and her investigation for evidentiary purposes. On April 6th, 8, 11, 12, 13,
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  Speaker 1: 15 of 2005, at approximately 9.30 a.m., I met with
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  Speaker 1: town of Palm Beach sanitation employees. I observed the employee
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: enter the driveway of 358 Elbrio Way and collect the
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  Speaker 1: trash from Epstein's property. I followed the employee to a
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  Speaker 1: predetermined area, at which time I collected the trash bags
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  Speaker 1: from the sanitation truck. I transported the trash bags to
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  Speaker 1: the sanitation department, where I sifted through its contents. All
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  Speaker 1: of the documents collected from Epstein's trash during my assistance
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  Speaker 1: were turned over to Detective Pagan for evidentiary purposes. On
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  Speaker 1: June 14, 2005, Detective Michelle Pagan contacted me and advised
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  Speaker 1: that the airplane belonging to Jeffrey Epstein of 358 El
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: Brío Way was parked at the Palm Beach International Airport.
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  Speaker 1: Detective Pagan requested that I begin trash pulls for the
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  Speaker 1: purpose of gathering evidence and intelligence... I made contact with
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  Speaker 1: the town of Palm Beach Sanitation Office Supervisor Tony Higgins
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  Speaker 1: and requested trash pulls for 358 El Brio Way to
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  Speaker 1: begin on June 15, 2005. On June 15, 2005, I
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  Speaker 1: met with a sanitation employee. I observed the employee enter
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  Speaker 1: the driveway of 358 El Brio Way and collect the
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: trash from Epstein's property. I followed the employee to a
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  Speaker 1: predetermined area at which time I collected the trash bags
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  Speaker 1: from the sanitation truck. I transported the trash bags to
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  Speaker 1: the sanitation department where I sifted through its contents. The
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  Speaker 1: trash yielded negative results and no evidence was collected. No
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  Speaker 1: further trash was collected throughout the week due to the
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: fact that Epstein's security gates remained closed throughout the week. Therefore,
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  Speaker 1: the sanitation employees were unable to gain access onto the
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  Speaker 1: property for collection of the trash. All the evidence and
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  Speaker 1: intelligence gathered by this officer has been turned over to
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  Speaker 1: the detective bureau and no further action has been taken
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  Speaker 1: by this officer. End of the supplement. Alright, so we're
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  Speaker 1: going to wrap up this episode here and in the
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  Speaker 1: next episode we're going to pick up where we left off.
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  Speaker 1: All of the information that goes with this episode can
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  Speaker 1: be found in the description box. What's up everyone and
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  Speaker 1: welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode we're
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  Speaker 1: picking right back up where we left off with the
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  Speaker 1: Palm Beach Police report. And to do that, we're picking
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  Speaker 1: up once again with the narrative of Joseph Rakari. On
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  Speaker 1: October 4th, 2005, I made telephone contact with Redacted, who
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  Speaker 1: left several messages on voicemail. During the message, she advised
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  Speaker 1: she was not completely truthful when we met in person,
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  Speaker 1: but would like to speak with me to advise what
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  Speaker 1: had happened. She further advised she did not want to
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  Speaker 1: speak of this incident in front of her mother. At
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  Speaker 1: approximately 15.48 p.m., I made the telephone contact with Redacted
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  Speaker 1: at Redacted. During a tape-recorded statement, Redacted stated the following.
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  Speaker 1: Approximately a year ago, when she was 16 years of age,
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  Speaker 1: Robson took her over to Jeff's house twice. The first
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  Speaker 1: time she went, Haley Robson drove her to the house.
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  Speaker 1: They entered through the kitchen area where she was introduced
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  Speaker 1: to Sarah and Jeff. She was taken upstairs to a
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  Speaker 1: bedroom by Sarah, who set the room up with a
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  Speaker 1: massage bed and brought out the oils to use. Jeff
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  Speaker 1: then entered the room wearing a towel. He lay on
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  Speaker 1: the table and picked out a lotion for Redacted to
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  Speaker 1: rub on him. At one point during the massage, he
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  Speaker 1: tried to remove her shirt, at which point she became
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  Speaker 1: very upset and discontinued the massage. Both Redacted and Jeffrey
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  Speaker 1: had a verbal disagreement, at which time she left without
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: being paid. She met with Haley Robson, who was sitting
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: in the kitchen. and told her let's go. Redacted advised
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  Speaker 1: she received no money for that day. Redacted also said
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  Speaker 1: that Haley Robson had told her if she was uncomfortable
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  Speaker 1: with what was going on to let him know and
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  Speaker 1: I'll stop. She knew that the more you do, the
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  Speaker 1: more you'll get paid. Several weeks later, Redacted advised she
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  Speaker 1: agreed to be taken a second time by Haley Robson.
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  Speaker 1: Once they arrived at the residence, Haley sat in the
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  Speaker 1: kitchen and Sarah took her upstairs to the master bedroom again.
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  Speaker 1: Sarah sat up the room with the massage bed and
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  Speaker 1: brought out the oils to use. Jeff then entered the
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  Speaker 1: room wearing a towel. He lay on the table and
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  Speaker 1: picked out a lotion for Redacted to rub on him.
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  Speaker 1: At one point during the massage, he tried to touch
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  Speaker 1: her buttocks as Redacted was wearing tight jeans and had
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: a tight belt on. Jeff was unable to touch her buttocks.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Jeff then rolled onto his back during the massage. He
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: attempted to touch her breasts. Redacted then became upset again
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  Speaker 1: and told him she didn't want to be touched. Redacted
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  Speaker 1: discontinued the massage and and was paid $ 200. Redacted then
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: went downstairs where Haley Robson was waiting for her. She
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: told Robson she wanted to leave. Redacted said she never
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: returned to the house. Redacted stated she is aware that
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: her friend, Redacted, was also at the house and had
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: a problem with Jeff. She provided a telephone number for Redacted,
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  Speaker 1: the interview was concluded, and the microcassettes were turned in
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  Speaker 1: as evidence. On October 5, 2005, I researched the incoming
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: telephone number that had left redacted a message. The telephone
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  Speaker 1: number redacted was assigned to AT & T Singular Cellular Service.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I prepared a subpoena request and faxed the request to
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: the state attorney's office. Information requested was subscriber information as
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: well as all incoming and outgoing calls for the month
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  Speaker 1: of September and October 2005. I later researched, redacted, and
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  Speaker 1: discovered she resides in Royal Palm Beach Detective Dawson and
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  Speaker 1: I drove to Royal Palm Beach and met with Redacted
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  Speaker 1: at her residence in Royal Palm Beach. Redacted agreed to
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  Speaker 1: speak with us in the kitchen area. During a sworn
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  Speaker 1: tape statement, Redacted stated the following. On or about November 2004,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: she was approached by Haley Robson and asked if she
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  Speaker 1: wanted to make money. She agreed and was told she
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  Speaker 1: would provide a massage to a wealthy man in Palm Beach.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Robson picked her up and drove her to a house
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: in Palm Beach. She was brought into the kitchen area
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: of the house. She further stated that Redacted and Redacted
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: went with them. They were brought into the kitchen where
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: she was introduced to Jeff and other females. Redacted stated
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: that she was introduced to a helper of Jeff. The
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: female was described as white, female, unknown name with blonde hair.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: She stated that the assistant was familiar with Robson. The
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: assistant set up the massage table and put out lotions
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: to be used. She told Redacted Jeff would be available
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: in a minute. Jeff entered the room wearing only a towel.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: Jeff lay on the massage table and picked up the
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: lotion to rub his thighs and back. Redacted further stated
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: that during the massage, Jeff asked her to remove her clothes.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: She complied and removed her pants and her blouse. Redacted
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: didn't remember if she had removed her bra, but feels
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: like she did. Redacted was certain that she stayed in
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: her thong underwear. Redacted continued the massage and at one point,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: she straddled him to massage his back, which touched his
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: buttocks with hers. Redacted was instructed to return to the ground,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: at which time Jeff turned to have his chest rubbed.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Redacted advised it was at this time that she was
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: sure he was masturbating. Redacted did not want to look
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: at his penis area because she was uncomfortable. Jeff removed
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: a large white vibrator and turned it on. Redacted stated
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: he began rubbing the vibrator over her thong underwear on
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: her vaginal area. Shortly thereafter, Jeff ejaculated and removed himself
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: from the table. He walked over to where the shower
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: was and opened the glass door. She waited as he
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: was taking a shower in her direct view. When I
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: asked Redacted how old she was when this occurred, she
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: stated she had just turned 17. At the conclusion of
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: the shower, Redacted was paid either $ 350 or $ 400 dollars
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: She stated she wasn't sure, but knows it was close
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: to 400. At the conclusion of the interview, Redacted stated
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: she never returned to provide a massage for Jeff. She
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: advised she was ashamed and uncomfortable with the situation. Detective
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Dawson and I then left the area and responded to
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: the Redacted Redacted High School where Robson and all the
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: above-mentioned girls had attended. I met with school police officer,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Officer Williams. I explained that I was looking for a
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: previous student who attended Redacted High School, I inquired about Redacted.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I further explained that I was working a case in
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: which most of the girls I have interviewed are either
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: witnesses or victims, and I felt that Redacted may be
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: one as well. Officer Williams researched his previous student records
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: and found Redacted. She attended the same year and graduated
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: in the same year as the other girls. I was
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: provided the last known address of Redacted. At approximately 2.10 p.m.,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Detective Dawson and I met with Redacted at her residence.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Redacted in Royal Palm Beach. As Redacted was only 17
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: years of age, I had notified her mother, Ms. Redacted,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: that she would be interviewed in a reference and ongoing
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: investigation in Palm Beach. I assured her that her daughter
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: was not a suspect. I explained the possibility of her
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: being either a witness or a victim. Ms. Redacted advised
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: she wanted Redacted to cooperate, and Redacted stated the following.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: At the age of 16, during the month of September 2004,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: She was approached by Haley Robson for a chance to
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: make some money. Redacted was friends with the friends of
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Robson and knew the same people. Redacted had previously been
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: told by friends what and scheduled the appointment. Robson picked
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Redacted up and drove her to Palm Beach to a
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: street called Brio Way. They drove to the end of
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: the street and entered a large driveway. They entered the
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: kitchen area of the house and met with Jeff. Redacted
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: was introduced to Jeff. Robson led Redacted upstairs to the
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: main bedroom area and set the room with massage table
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: and set out the oils. Robson dimmed the lights and
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: turned on soft music. Robson exited the room and Jeff entered,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: the room wearing only a towel. Jeff picked oils and
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: instructed her to rub his legs under his buttocks, back
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: and chest area. Jeff asked her to get comfortable. Redacted
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: advised she did not remove her clothes. She was wearing
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: tight jeans and a cropped tank top, exposing her belly area.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: During the massage, Jeff removed his towel. As Redacted rubbed
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: his chest area, Jeff attempted to reach down her pants
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: through the buttocks area, however was unable due to the
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: tightness of the jeans and the tight belt. Redacted advised
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Jeff began to masturbate as she rubbed his chest. Jeff
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: moaned as she rubbed his chest. She observed he was
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: continuing to masturbate and attempted to reach up her tank
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: top and touch her breasts. She pulled back and Jeff stopped. However,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: he kept masturbating until he climaxed. He cleaned himself with
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: the towel he was previously wearing. I asked Redacted if
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: she knew the difference between circumcised and not circumcised. She
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: explained she knew and advised Jeff was circumcised. Redacted was
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: paid $ 200 for the massage and left the area. She
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: met with Robson, who was sitting in the kitchen, and
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: they left the house. Redacted then explained she never provided
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: another massage for Jeff. She did, however, go to the
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: house with Robson and Redacted as they took another friend
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: of Robson's. Redacted advised she was present when Redacted went
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: to work for Jeff. She advised she rode over and
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: sat in the kitchen area with Robson to wait for Redacted,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: and Redacted advised that while they waited for Redacted at
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: the house, the chef prepared lunch for them as it
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: was almost lunchtime. As Redacted was finished with the massage,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: they left the area. I asked Redacted if Robson ever
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: told what would be expected of her when she provided
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: a massage. Redacted stated yes. Robson told her that a
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: massage would be expected, possibly naked, and possibly some touching involved.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Redacted has no formal training in providing massages. Redacted spoke
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: about a third and last time that she went to
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Jeff's house. Robson drove another girl, Redacted, who is Redacted's friend,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: to Jeff's house. Redacted stated she knew that Robson had
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: made money providing girls for Jeff and she wanted to
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: do the same. Robson took them to the kitchen area
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: of the house and introduced them to Sarah. Robson and
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Sarah took Redacted upstairs to the main bedroom and Redacted
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: advised she doesn't know what happened as Redacted did not
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: speak about what happened in the room. Redacted received $ 100
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: for Robson for going with her to Jeff's house and
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: recommended Redacted was unable to remember Redacted's telephone number. The
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: interview was concluded and we left the area. On October 6, 2005,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Detective Dawson and I went to Lynn University, located in
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Boca Raton. We met with Dean of Students, Paul Turner.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: I explained to Mr. Turner that we were investigating a
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: crime within the town of Palm Beach and felt that
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: a student, redacted, may have information. Turner confirmed that redacted
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: is a student and currently on the soccer team for
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Lynn University. She was in computer class at the time
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: of our arrival. Turner sent a security guard to locate
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Redacted in class and bring her to the office. Mr.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Turner allowed us to interview Redacted in an empty conference room.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: At 11.45 a.m., I met with Redacted and explained to
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: her why we were there to interview her. She advised
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: she was aware of the ongoing investigation, and Redacted stated
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: that she had previously spoken with Redacted, who told her
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: she was interviewed by detectives. During a sworn tape statement,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Redacted stated she knew that Haley Robson worked for Jeff
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: in Palm Beach. Redacted advised she had been there many
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: times for massages. I asked her if she had formal
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: training in providing massages. Redacted stated that she did not.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Redacted advised she was told what was expected of her
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: by providing massages and would have to remove clothing, but
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: if she felt uncomfortable just to say so and Jeff
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: would stop pushing the issue. Redacted began providing massages. and
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: advised she kept her clothes on. She considered Jeff a
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: pervert who kept pushing to go further and further. Redacted
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: explained she would keep telling him she had a boyfriend
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: and that it would not be right to her boyfriend.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: It wasn't until recently Redacted admitted to removing her clothes
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: and staying in her thong underwear to provide a massage.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Redacted explained Jeff wanted to be rubbed on his neck
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: and recently he began turning over to have her rub
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: his chest as he masturbated. He would try to touch
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: her breasts as she rubbed his chest Redacted stated Jeff
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: would try to get away with more and more each massage. Originally,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Robson drove her to the house for the original massage.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Redacted left Sarah her cell phone number and every time
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Jeff would come into town, Sarah would call her for
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: an appointment. Each time she went, Sarah would meet her
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: in the kitchen door area. She would bring her upstairs
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: and prepare the massage table. Redacted advised that Jeff asked
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: her questions about herself. He knew she was a soccer player.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: and would be attending Lynn University, I asked Redacted if
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: he knew her real age. Redacted stated Jeff didn't care.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: The most recent massage she provided was on October 1, 2005.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: During the massage, she asked Jeff if she could borrow
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: one of his vehicles to visit her family and boyfriend
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: in Orlando. Jeff had told her she could borrow one
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: of his vehicles, but later stated he would rent her
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: a car. She continued with the massage and Jeff grabbed
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: her buttocks and caressed her buttocks cheeks. I asked if
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: she was wearing undergarments to which he replied thong underwear.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Once he tried to touch her breasts, she would pull
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: away from him and he would stop. Redacted was asked
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: if she ever used a vibrator on her. Redacted was
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: aware of the vibrator, but advised she would never allow
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: him to use a vibrator on her. She described the
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: vibrator as a large, white vibrator with a huge head
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: on the tip of the vibrator. She stated he kept
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: the vibrator in a closet near the massage table. Redacted
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: advised she had been doing the massage for approximately two years,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: which meant she would have started doing massages for Jeff
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: at the age of 16. Redacted stated she was contacted
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: by Sarah on October 3, 2005. Sarah had informed her
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: that Jeff had rented her a new Nissan Sentra and
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: she should come by the house to pick it up.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Sarah informed Redacted she would have the car for a month.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Redacted stated Jeff knew her car was not working properly
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: and had missed appointments in the past because her car
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: being inoperable. Redacted explained the car is currently parked next
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: to the gym field. I asked her if she ever
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: took anyone to the house. Redacted explained she took Redacted,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: a friend of hers, who has returned to Orlando to
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: attend college. I asked if she ever allowed another female
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: in the room. Redacted advised no one was brought into
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: the room with her. At the conclusion of the interview,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Detective Dawson and I went to the gym area and
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: located the silver Nissan Sentra bearing Florida tag X98 APM.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: The vehicle is registered to Dollar Rent-A-Car out of Palm
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Beach International Airport. Telephone contact was made with Redacted, the
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: victim's mother, at Redacted. I explained to her that I
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: was following up on this case and provided a complete
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: update on the case. The investigation continues. Alright folks, we're
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: going to wrap up right here and in the next
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: episode we'll pick up where we left off. All of
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: the information that goes with this episode can be found
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: in the description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome back
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: to the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're picking right
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: back up where we left off with a Palm Beach
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: police report into Jeffrey Epstein and his disgusting degenerate behavior.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Joseph Rakari is the one giving us the narrative in
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: this section once again. On October 10th, 2005, at approximately 2.30 p.m.,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I made telephone contact with Redacted, During a taped conversation,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Redacted was told of an ongoing investigation in which I
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: felt she had information pertaining to Jeffrey Epstein. Redacted explained
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: she met Epstein when she was just 16 years of age.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: She was approached by Redacted, a friend who had also
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: previously gone to Epstein's house for massages. Redacted advised she
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: was working at the Wellington Mall when she was approached.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Redacted told her that she would have to provide a
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: massage to Epstein and she would have to perform this
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: massage naked. Redacted thought about the offer and stated she
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: could make $ 200 for only 30 minutes of work. She
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: agreed to perform the massage, and Redacted set the appointment
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: for her that same day. Redacted remembered it was a weekend,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: as she was only worked at the mall on the weekends.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Redacted took her to the house where she was introduced
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: to Sarah, Jeff Epstein's assistant. Sarah took her upstairs to
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: a master bedroom. Redacted explained that as she was walking
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: up the stairs, she observed several photographs of naked women,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: along the walls and tables of the house. Redacted further
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: explained that she was brought into the bedroom where Sarah
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: prepared the room by setting up the massage table and
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: provided oils for her to rub on Epstein. So, where
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: have we heard this story before, huh? Sarah Kell and
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Vickers once again setting things up, getting these girls all
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: primed and ready to go. Meanwhile, Sarah Kell and Vickers
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: is enjoying that jet-setter's life while these girls are saddled with,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: you know, problems for the rest of theirs. Epstein entered
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: the room and introduced himself. Epstein lay on the table
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: and told her to get comfortable. Redacted could not remember
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: if he was naked or if he entered the room
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: with a towel. Redacted stated she provided the massage wearing
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: only her panties. She continued rubbing his legs, thighs, and feet.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Redacted advised he turned her over onto his back. She
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: continued to rub his legs with oils. Epstein touched her
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: breasts and began to masturbate. I asked Redacted if she
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: knew what circumcised and uncircumcised meant. She stated circumcised is
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: when the penis has no foreskin and the head of
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: the penis is visible. Redacted said Epstein is circumcised. Redacted
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: began to cry on the telephone and stated she had
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: been in his home hundreds of times over a two-year period.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: She claimed to have made thousands of dollars during her visits.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Redacted stated she could not remember how many times exactly
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: she went to Epstein's home but said it was a lot.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Redacted became more upset, crying hysterically, and stated she was
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: paid and instructed to have sex with Epstein's assistant, Nadia Marcinkova,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: by Epstein. Epstein continued to watch them have sex and
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: masturbated himself as they had sex with each other. She
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: further stated that things escalated further and further. Epstein used
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: sexual toys such as vibrators, rubber penises, and strap-on penises
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: on Redacted. Additionally, Redacted stated, he performed oral sex on
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: her numerous times. She claimed he, Epstein, put his fingers
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: inside her vagina while he masturbated in an attempt to
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: make her climax. Redacted could not continue and wanted to
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: take some time to regain her composure. I explained to
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Redacted to take her time. After taking several minutes to
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: regain her composure, I explained that I would travel to
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: meet with her in person as I felt she had
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: additional information to provide. I met with Sergeant Frick, and
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: explain the importance to meet with Redacted in person. Sergeant
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Frick agreed and made arrangements for Detective Dawson and I
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: to meet with her in Jacksonville, Florida. On October 11, 2005,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: at 4.10 p.m., Detective Dawson and I met with Redacted
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: and her friend, Redacted at Redacted in Jacksonville, Florida. Redacted
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: wanted to have Redacted present for support. I explained to
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: her that I did not have a problem as long
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: as she wanted Redacted present during the interview. Redacted stated
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: she wanted her present. I explained that as Redacted was present,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: she was not allowed to comment or ask any questions
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: during the interview. She was only there to comfort should
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: the interview upset her. During the sworn tape statement, Redacted
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: explained how everything began. She said she was brought through
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: the kitchen area where she met Sarah for the first time.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: She was led to the master bedroom. Epstein's room. Redacted
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: explained that she was walking up the stairs. She observed
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: several photographs of naked women along the walls and tables
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: of the house. Redacted further explained that she was brought
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: into the bedroom where Sarah prepared the room by setting
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: up the massage table and provided the oils for her
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: to rub on Epstein. Redacted explained she remembered the steam
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: room area which contained two large showers. Epstein entered the
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: room from the steam room area and introduced himself. Epstein
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: lay on the table and told her to get comfortable.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Redacted removed her skirt and kept her shirt on. She
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: would not remember if she was naked or if she
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: entered the room with a towel. Epstein then instructed her
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: to remove her shirt. Redacted removed her shirt and remembered
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: she was not wearing a bra. Redacted stated she provided
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: the massage wearing only her panties. She continued rubbing his legs, thighs,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: and feet. Redacted advised he turned over onto his back.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: She continued to rub his legs with the oils. Epstein
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: touched her breasts and began to masturbate. Epstein ejaculated, which
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: meant the massage was over. At the conclusion of the massage,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Redacted was given $ 200 and they walked together downstairs where
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Sarah and Redacted were waiting. Redacted stated, Redacted received an
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: unknown amount of money for taking her to Epstein's. Epstein
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: instructed to leave her cellular telephone number so that he
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: could contact her when he's in town. Redacted explained that
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: she continued to go to Epstein's house and became a
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: regular at the house. She could not provide an exact number,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: but activities did not occur every time she was there.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: There were times she went to dinners and parties with Epstein.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Redacted explained that things began to escalate more than the massage.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: The encounters include bringing in his assistant, Nadia Marcinkova, explained
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Epstein had purchased her from her family in Yugoslavia. Epstein
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: bragged he brought her into the United States to be
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: his Yugoslavian sex slave. Redacted advised he was naked in
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: the bedroom. She entered and removed her clothing. Marcinkova entered
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: the room from the steam room already naked. He instructed
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Redacted to perform oral sex on Marcinkova. Redacted refused to
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: perform that act. Epstein offered her an additional $ 200 for
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: her to perform oral sex on Marcinkova for five minutes.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Redacted agreed to perform the oral sex for the additional $ 200.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Redacted explained that Epstein would masturbate while he watched them
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: perform sexual acts. So again, with Marcinkova, you see it
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: once again here in the documents. She was purchased as
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: a child by Epstein. So how do we punish somebody
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: like this? It's sort of like a moral dilemma, right?
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  Speaker 1: She has to have some sort of punishment, you would think,
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  Speaker 1: but where does the line get drawn? Things continued to
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  Speaker 1: escalate by purchasing sex toys. Redacted stated she had massagers, vibrators,
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  Speaker 1: and strap-on rubber penises used on her. Each time something
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  Speaker 1: new was introduced. additional monies were produced and offered for
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  Speaker 1: Redacted to allow the acts to happen. Redacted was adamant
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  Speaker 1: that she performed all these acts, but there were understandings
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  Speaker 1: with Epstein that no vaginal penetrations would occur with his penis.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted explained that Epstein's penis was deformed. Redacted explained that
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  Speaker 1: his penis was oval-shaped. She claimed that Epstein's penis was erect,
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  Speaker 1: it was thick towards the bottom, but thin and small
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  Speaker 1: towards the head portion. She called it egg-shaped. So when
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  Speaker 1: we call him egg dick, this is why. Redacted continued
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  Speaker 1: that the sexual encounters with Marcinkova, Epstein, and her became
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  Speaker 1: a ritual. Redacted would arrive at the house and walk
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  Speaker 1: herself upstairs where Marcinkova and Epstein were waiting. Redacted would
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  Speaker 1: remove her clothing and join them on the bed. Redacted
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  Speaker 1: explained Marcinkova and she would begin kissing and touching each other.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted explained sex toys were brought into the bed by
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: either Epstein or Marcinkova and they would begin using the
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  Speaker 1: toys on each other. Epstein would perform oral sex on
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  Speaker 1: either person depending who was on top during the intercourse.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted's explanation revealed they were in a missionary position. Redacted
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  Speaker 1: advised one day Redacted was unable to state and exact
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  Speaker 1: date When this incident occurred, she came to the house
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  Speaker 1: after Sarah had informed her that Epstein had arrived. She
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  Speaker 1: arrived at the house and went upstairs to the master bedroom.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted advised she immediately removed her clothing as Nadia Marcinkova
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  Speaker 1: and Epstein were already naked in the bedroom. Redacted explained
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  Speaker 1: that Nadia and she had a sexual encounter to include kissing, touching,
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  Speaker 1: and oral sex. Redacted remembered that she climaxed and was
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  Speaker 1: removing herself from the massage table. Redacted asked for a
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  Speaker 1: sheet of paper and drew the massage table in the
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  Speaker 1: master bathroom and where Epstein, Marcinkova, and she were. Epstein
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  Speaker 1: turned to Redacted on her stomach on the massage bed
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  Speaker 1: and inserted his penis into her vagina. Redacted stated Epstein
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  Speaker 1: began to pump his penis in her vagina. Redacted became
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  Speaker 1: upset over this. She said her head was being held
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  Speaker 1: against the bed forcibly as he continued to pump inside her.
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  Speaker 1: She screamed no and Epstein stopped. She told him that
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  Speaker 1: she did not want to have his penis inside her.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein apologized for his actions and subsequently paid her $ 1, 000
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  Speaker 1: for the visit. Additionally, shortly thereafter, Epstein gave Redacted a
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  Speaker 1: 2005 Dodge Neon blue in color for her personal use.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted advised there were times that she was so sore
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  Speaker 1: when she left Epstein's house. Redacted advised she was ripped,
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  Speaker 1: torn in her vaginal area. Redacted advised she had difficulty
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  Speaker 1: walking to the car after leaving Epstein's house because she
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  Speaker 1: was so sore. Redacted advised that other than that one
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  Speaker 1: time when Epstein inserted his penis inside her vagina, there
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  Speaker 1: was no other penile intercourse. Redacted provided the names of
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  Speaker 1: girls that she knew of that had gone to Epstein's house.
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  Speaker 1: Redacted provided the name of Redacted and feels she still
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  Speaker 1: may be going to the house to massage Epstein. According
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  Speaker 1: to Redacted, Redacted is still sucking his dick. When asked
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  Speaker 1: if she had been recently contacted by anyone of the house,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: Redacted advised she received an email from Sarah from Redacted,
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  Speaker 1: which is her email account. The email was just a hello,
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  Speaker 1: how are you doing type of email. There had been
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  Speaker 1: no other contact from the house. The interview was concluded
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  Speaker 1: and Redacted left the area. The tapes and drawing were
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  Speaker 1: submitted into evidence. The investigation continues. All right, folks, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to wrap up right here. And in the next episode,
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  Speaker 1: we'll pick up with the next section. All the information
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  Speaker 1: that goes with this episode can be found in the
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  Speaker 1: description box.