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#261 - Ab-Soul · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Boutlet Cavs show special guests in here my guy one
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  Speaker 1: of the greatest rappers alive. His name's Absol. Welcome sir,
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for it's been a long time. I miss you, man,
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  Speaker 1: miss you too. Man. I feel like I want to say, like,
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  Speaker 1: the last time I interviewed you, interviewed you was on
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  Speaker 1: the back of a bus in Tampa, Florida or Tempe, Arizona,
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  Speaker 1: one of those two places, and it was on the
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  Speaker 1: Smokers Club tour. Mmm. I don't know, man, it was
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  Speaker 1: a long time ago. With Joey. Yeah, we've had a
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  Speaker 1: couple of like tour bus interviews for sure. We were
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  Speaker 1: just talking about that too. Getting back on the road. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: good times. Explain to me because you were kind of
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  Speaker 1: breaking down off the mic a bit. I can't imagine
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  Speaker 1: like the high you get after it's been a while
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  Speaker 1: since you've been on the road, but just to create
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  Speaker 1: and put so much, you know, blood, sweat and here's
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  Speaker 1: into your art and then hitting that stage literally literally,
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  Speaker 1: and then hitting the stage and just seeing the people
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  Speaker 1: sing along, seeing the people react, seeing that people come
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  Speaker 1: alive for you. What's that like, man, feeling the people
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  Speaker 1: you know? I can't really but I see what you do.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not right, right, yeah, yeah, I'm not and you
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  Speaker 1: can hear and we got yeah, we gotta get this
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  Speaker 1: very clear. I'm not I'm legally blind. I'm not blind.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you're yeh yeah, legally yeah yeah. But like I
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  Speaker 1: was saying, like it's excuse me. That's one of the
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  Speaker 1: main reasons why, like we took a while to drop
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  Speaker 1: the album, like I said, so excuse me anyway, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we was gonna drop in twenty twenty, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: the pandemic of course, and I wasn't just about to
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  Speaker 1: drop an album just to stream, you know. I need
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  Speaker 1: to go out and feel the effect, you know, feel
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  Speaker 1: the people, touch the people, you know, shake hands, and
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  Speaker 1: really feel the reception, you know what I'm saying. And
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  Speaker 1: what Like, like I was saying, like it's performing for me.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Recording is one thing, like you know, write,
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  Speaker 1: writing is writing. Creating is one thing is one is
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  Speaker 1: one craft. Recording is another craft. Performing is a whole
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  Speaker 1: other craft. So like like I was telling you, it's
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  Speaker 1: kinetic like the performance the performance aspect because like you know,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, at least one time when I go
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  Speaker 1: on tour, every time, it never feels I get dogs sick,
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  Speaker 1: like I can't do it, and then Top calls like
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  Speaker 1: you know, you're trying to get this money or what
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna let the people down or what? Right? You know?
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  Speaker 1: So you know, I suck it up, get on, get
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  Speaker 1: on stage, and as soon as I get on, as
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  Speaker 1: soon as I touch the stage, I am healed, no
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  Speaker 1: matter what you're going through physically wherever, I am healed
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  Speaker 1: completely because and I know it's it's a spiritual thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's a it's a kinetic thing for getting the energy
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  Speaker 1: from the people and reciprocating it obviously, And as soon
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  Speaker 1: as I step off of the stage, I'm back sick
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  Speaker 1: right away, right away to the bus to go to sleep. Right. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, you could call it a high,
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  Speaker 1: but I think it's more, it's more spiritual, it's more
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  Speaker 1: it's more personal. You know what I'm saying. Would you
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  Speaker 1: consider yourself to be a because I think there's a
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  Speaker 1: difference between being a religious person and a spiritual person. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what a side of the pendulum do you swing on?
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  Speaker 1: If any? I mean, there's a you know, it's there's
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  Speaker 1: a there's a balance between the two because you know,
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  Speaker 1: I obviously, you know, grew up in the Christian Church.
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  Speaker 1: I am the black lived pastor, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, I do you know, I ask questions.
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  Speaker 1: I do, you know, study theology and I'm into it
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  Speaker 1: all and you know, all of the messages are you know,
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  Speaker 1: relative an essence? You know what I'm saying. So, you know,
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  Speaker 1: to answer your question, I'm just kind of in between,
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  Speaker 1: somewhere in between the two. Somewhere in between the two.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, I you know, I I
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  Speaker 1: tell you I'm a Christian, right who asked questions. What
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  Speaker 1: do you mean that's you're a Christian who also asked questions? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a Christian who asked questions. Yeah, that's fair there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like I was kind of like more atheists
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  Speaker 1: for a long time, but once I started doing a
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  Speaker 1: lot of like heavy like psychedelics, it's just I'm just
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  Speaker 1: more like I don't know now, you know. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: and that's what the wisest man knows. He knows nothing,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so it's like, and
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  Speaker 1: it's crazy how atheists is such a that word is
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  Speaker 1: just so strong, right, atheist, that's such a strong it's
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  Speaker 1: a harsh word. If you just say say, yeah, that's crazy,
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  Speaker 1: people look at you like you say, I'm a Satanist.
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  Speaker 1: You might as well tell certain people there. Yeah, exactly right.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, but you know, like I said, man, do
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  Speaker 1: what thou wilt? You know, Yeah, I definitely believe in aliens.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't even want to go here. Thing,
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  Speaker 1: I ain't got enough time. Nobody if aliens are real? Right,
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  Speaker 1: So if they're real? If if if they so we're
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  Speaker 1: doing that, I think they are. Okay, so do you
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  Speaker 1: think they are? I'm not saying if are you saying
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  Speaker 1: that they are? I've seen some ship man. But if
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  Speaker 1: if we find out aliens are a thing, right, doesn't
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  Speaker 1: that poke holes through a lot of the religions of
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  Speaker 1: the world Or No? No, no, because if because when
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  Speaker 1: you do the research, they're they're there, they're there, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the serpent, the serpent that was the uh you know,
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  Speaker 1: that was the like they were there whole time. We
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  Speaker 1: just didn't look at it through the proper lens. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's just because they're very they're very poetic, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just and that's just the you know, the whole you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Christian Bible. They're all there. There, there's you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you if you choose to, if you choose to
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  Speaker 1: look at it, you choose to dig in. Yeah, they're
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  Speaker 1: They're always there. There's always beings, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: like unexplainable beings that you know, this, this, and that
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  Speaker 1: you know neph alone just all kind of Have you
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  Speaker 1: ever witnessed the UFO? Yeah, and I give you this.
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  Speaker 1: UFO means what unidentified flying object? If you, if you
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  Speaker 1: could be a Southwest if you, if you, if you
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  Speaker 1: saw it, why isn't it? Why is it unidentified? Mm hmm. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just on that, you know. You know what I'm
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm kid, I'm trying to play like
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  Speaker 1: I've seen I've had a couple of UFO. Yeah, I mean, listen,
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  Speaker 1: it's crazy. Listen Strawberry Fields, shut up to the Beatles.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing is Real. That is a great song to eat
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  Speaker 1: rooms on and listen to. Man, have you ever have
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  Speaker 1: you ever ate trooms all listening to that song? Man,
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  Speaker 1: it's a fucking great song. I've been I've broke through
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  Speaker 1: to the other side, putting many many times while listening
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  Speaker 1: to the Beatles. Well, I mean that was a Pink
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  Speaker 1: Floyd reference obviously, but yes to the Beatles. Also, you
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  Speaker 1: know who's the best in my opinion if you're fucking
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  Speaker 1: Shrewman Hard Tame and Paula. Bro, Wow, that's not You're
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  Speaker 1: absolutely right, and that's more like that's more like the
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  Speaker 1: d that's just like, you know, they got a song
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  Speaker 1: called let It Happen. Yeah, yeah, oh my god, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I love hours A time I was, I was at
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  Speaker 1: a Joshua Tree of my wife and everybody does it
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  Speaker 1: loves to go to well fucking you know, I guess
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  Speaker 1: it's the la hips. The tree is the is, the
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  Speaker 1: is the psychedelic. It's like the psychedelic Walmart. It's like
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  Speaker 1: the commercial like we have to, we have to go
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  Speaker 1: to Joshua Tree. We have to. You know. That's so
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  Speaker 1: ill write that song on for two hours straight though,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, this is the greatest song I've ever
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  Speaker 1: heard in my life. I can attest to that great
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  Speaker 1: fucking record man, right shot and Polo how that mean? Man?
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  Speaker 1: If you ever see this man, I never even knew
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  Speaker 1: that Tame and Paula was one dude until like six
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  Speaker 1: months ago. I always thought it was a band. It
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  Speaker 1: sounds like a band, right, yeah, Yo, Tam and Paula
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  Speaker 1: is headline of Coachella. And then I'm like, oh, it's
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  Speaker 1: just the dude. He's like, you know, like a really
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  Speaker 1: just talented alien level musician. I guess right, It's like
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  Speaker 1: that's fucking kind of crazy, right, very talented guy. Yo.
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  Speaker 1: this new album, man, because it feels like probably, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it feels like one of the most personal bodies of work.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna start off by saying, that was such an
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  Speaker 1: excellent segue from you know, the Extra Terrestrial to my
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  Speaker 1: my most personal album. Yeah, I'm so honored to her.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, of course. Man. This album is I mean, look, man,
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  Speaker 1: it was highly anticipated. I feel like, as somebody who's
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  Speaker 1: been a fan of you for the last ten plus years,
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  Speaker 1: to me, this felt like your strongest body of work
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  Speaker 1: and that's saying a lot because you've had so many
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  Speaker 1: of those correct and you know, you know I also,
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  Speaker 1: I also have a bone to pick with you because
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  Speaker 1: I did not make your listen. But in your defense,
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  Speaker 1: I know what you're going to say. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. It's a little too late. It's like, no,
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  Speaker 1: I hadn't fully like, it wasn't enough time, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I put the list together, right, Yeah, and then your
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  Speaker 1: album dropped on the twenty first, right sixteenth sixteenth. Okay, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so I did not fully like Live with your album.
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  Speaker 1: I listened to it on the plane once exactly, but
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  Speaker 1: I didn't get to like Live No right exactly, So
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  Speaker 1: I I kind of disqualified anything from the last release
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  Speaker 1: from from December. No, Yeah, I get that. That's yeah,
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  Speaker 1: That's why I said, I'm just just fucking around with you.
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  Speaker 1: But you know that means a lot coming from you
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  Speaker 1: though that you know what I'm saying. I'll tell you this.
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  Speaker 1: When I do next year's list, I'm going to just
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  Speaker 1: include the end of December as well, and you'll be
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  Speaker 1: on there. Unless you know, some some some crazy might happen.
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  Speaker 1: You never know. I doubt it, but you know, that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I appreciate that it was,
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  Speaker 1: but that's my explanation for sure. It's truthful and I
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  Speaker 1: believe it. Yeah, I believe it. And excellent list too,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, thanks man, excellent list. Yeah. Man, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's really not it's just man like I went in.
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  Speaker 1: You know, my last album was very heavy on the ears.
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  Speaker 1: It was very dark, if you will, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: just went I felt like I was, you know, just
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  Speaker 1: going a little too left, a little you know, too
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  Speaker 1: much Joshua Tree. I didn't wrong with that, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you know I took I took
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  Speaker 1: like a year and a year and some change off
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  Speaker 1: to you know, just you know, get back center. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, I just kind of wanted to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: go in, you know, and challenge myself. What I usually
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  Speaker 1: do when I when I create, you know, I have
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  Speaker 1: a concept. I go in with a concept because you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm old school. I'm all about more people did that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm all about bodies of work. I grew up reading
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  Speaker 1: Source magazine. I want five mics of course, so that's
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  Speaker 1: my whole thing. Yeah, but what I did this time
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  Speaker 1: was I just literally just I just went in and
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  Speaker 1: worked and and and just let it and let it happen.
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  Speaker 1: I see where you're just tied everything together. Look at that.
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  Speaker 1: I can't stop so and and the you know, the
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  Speaker 1: concept is kind of created. It's created itself. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it just kind of if it was so personal, I was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it was very open, it was very vulnerable,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'd like I didn't really I tried not
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  Speaker 1: to listen to too much music, like on my own.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you can't you can't stop the music though,
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  Speaker 1: you know I can't, you know exactly. That was That
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  Speaker 1: was my whole thing. So I wanted it to sound
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  Speaker 1: like me. I really, really really you know, leaned on
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  Speaker 1: my producers this time, and I didn't. I didn't more
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  Speaker 1: so pig beats, you know, I you know, I'd let
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  Speaker 1: them challenge me. Like, you know, one of the I
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  Speaker 1: think it's like track three or four. I tweeted this, uh,
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  Speaker 1: this beat switch up. It is fucking crazy. I forget that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we were just talking about that beat switch up. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we had to because we had dropped. We had dropped
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  Speaker 1: that was like the appetizer. We had dropped the first
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  Speaker 1: version and so like you know, I wanted to do
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  Speaker 1: something you know, special for the album, like just you
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  Speaker 1: punch rapping exactly, you know what I'm saying. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was a lot of it was it was a
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  Speaker 1: roller coaster, but like like I said, it means a
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  Speaker 1: lot that you uh, you know, you enjoyed it. Yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think like being vulnerable is probably one
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  Speaker 1: of the greatest qualities like the greats can have, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I think you know, if you even if you think
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  Speaker 1: of someone like, oh, we don't look at it's like
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  Speaker 1: the most vulnerable guy. He's had some pretty vulnerable moments
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  Speaker 1: that we don't really you know, think about. But is
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  Speaker 1: it hard? Was it because you got really personal on
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  Speaker 1: this album? Was there ever like a point in time
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  Speaker 1: where you're like, man, maybe you recorded some ship and
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  Speaker 1: you question whether or not you like like it come
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  Speaker 1: out or you know, because when you share your life
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  Speaker 1: like that, Yeah, there's consequences, whether it's your family or
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  Speaker 1: the greater circle. You know, just said that you don't
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  Speaker 1: necessarily want because I'm sure when you record it's therapy
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  Speaker 1: and then what comes out is something totally different, right, right, Yeah, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean there's there, there are those moments, but you
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  Speaker 1: know you gotta you know this name for the faint
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  Speaker 1: of heart. You know, you gotta have courage, you gotta
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  Speaker 1: be brave, you got you know, you gotta understand that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I understand that. You know, my my testimony
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  Speaker 1: can can can help. You know, we all just we
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  Speaker 1: all just really want to know that we're not alone.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's going through it, everybody's going through something, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: I just you know, when I'm when I have those
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  Speaker 1: moments where I feel like spent much. Man, my mom
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  Speaker 1: might not need to hear this, you know, I just
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  Speaker 1: remember that, you know it's just for you might help
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  Speaker 1: a fan, I might help somebody else out you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And you know it's got to be
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  Speaker 1: like an interesting burden to carry, like cause you kind
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  Speaker 1: of have throughout your career talk to fans personally have
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  Speaker 1: probably been like, yo, you help save my life or
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  Speaker 1: yo literally and so when you literally when you're getting
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  Speaker 1: ready to release music, you kind of know like, damn
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  Speaker 1: this this can affect someone's path, right, Like I think
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  Speaker 1: artists take that lightly sometimes yeah, for the good or
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  Speaker 1: for the bad? Right, And I don't like I said,
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  Speaker 1: like I always say, you know, like when people, when
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  Speaker 1: I meet people, when they say, you know, man, you
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  Speaker 1: don't even understand man, like you saved my life, and
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  Speaker 1: I I'm I'm very serious, adamant about saying, no, you
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  Speaker 1: saved mine, you know, by giving me a voice, by
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  Speaker 1: by listening. Like so we go hand in hand. You
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  Speaker 1: get what I'm saying, Yeah, one the other. It's a
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  Speaker 1: very so you know, it's the reciprocity is very important
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  Speaker 1: to me, you know, and I'm grateful. I appreciate it all.
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  Speaker 1: What I thought was dope was when you jumped on
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  Speaker 1: Russ's Chomp project. Was it Chomp to you on Chump? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Was it the second one? Chump one or two? Which
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  Speaker 1: one was it? Was it twenty twenty one or twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty anyway, Well you were on one of the chumps. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And I know Russ has always been like a huge
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  Speaker 1: fan of yours. Any time I've ever talked to him,
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  Speaker 1: he's always brought you up as like, you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: my brother, the young legend man. Yeah, and like it's
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  Speaker 1: funny because like he had shared some old dms or
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  Speaker 1: he was hitting you up yeah, like twenty eleven. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like he used to like harass me on Twitter Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that was so cool. And now you jumped on his
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  Speaker 1: ship and then now he's on your ship. Like ye
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: talk about your relationship with a guy like Russ, who
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: I think is given a lot of free game to
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of artists out there. Yeah, he doesn't. He
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't keep the game behind the lock locked doors, right right.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I think some people might take his messaging the wrong way.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: I think he's a great guy. You know, I know,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: I know, I know he means well, I mean, you know,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: he that's what he just he's just he's just a
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: free spirit for at heart, and he just he just
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: means well, I mean he's he's he's just trying to
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: be of service. But I just I think he's just
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: like the definition of dedication. He's the definition of dedication
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: and consistency. And you know, he's he's really you know,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: he's very he's very skilled. He's very intuitive, you know
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, you know, and he could rap
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: his ass off. No, that's what I'm saying. Like he's
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: he's he's really skilled. So you know, and that's like
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I said, man, that's that's it's the young legend and
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: like as somebody like you grew up when he read.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: When he reached out to me, I had like I
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: had kept hearing his name and I had and I
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: had heard his records, but I didn't you know, put
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: a face to it or you know, but you know, Uh.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: He reached out to Punch, and Punch sent me the
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: record and then I was like, oh, oh this is cool,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Like would you like, should I do it? He was like,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, I love his hustle. So I'm like, all right, yeah, cool.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: So he gave me his number and then I reached
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: out to him and then we had to talk and
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: then he sent me like the old tweets. Yo, this
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: is crazy. So then I did my research. I'm like,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: oh this is this guy. Oh wow, yeah, oh for sure.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: So you know, yeah, shout out to I should say,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: like coming from your roots, right, yeah, you used to
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: work at a record store. Yes, grew up in a
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: record store, had a crib in the record store, reading
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: Source magazine as a kid, caring about bodies of work.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: You're a fan first, right, You could tell that about
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: how you wrap some of the people you work with.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: How much of like keeping your ear to the new
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: wave of what's going on on or discovering new artists
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: are you still doing because it's tough, right, It's tough
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: because it's a lot. But you know, I I just
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: kind of look at it as you know, if it
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: hits my desk, you know, yeah, that's when it hits
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: when it if it wants it hits my desk. You know,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: it's something to consider, you know, And I just you know,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: have mine. But but but like I said, I'm like,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I'm losing my I'm losing my opinion. I found myself
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: becoming a critic. And I just think as a as
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: an artist, as an artist, I don't think that's healthy
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: because you know, me being someone who can you know,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: honestly say I've I've influenced a lot of great new artists,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: you know, like Russ who would tell me that I'm
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: you know I've influenced him. I can't. It's it's a
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: different I just found myself becoming a critic like who
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: you know, like called like oh that's wag you know
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: this and that. But it's like artists art, and it's
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: it's open for interpretation, is it's objective, it's it's it's
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: not for everybody, it's for who it's for. And I
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: mean these are just these are kids, these are these
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: are these are people, you know, just trying to make
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: something of themselves, man, just trying to trying to be successful,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: trying to leave their mark on the world. So I'm
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I'm practicing just you know, just being a listener versus Yeah,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I can't just and as an artist though, you know
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Now, See, you know, somebody like yourself,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: you know, you kind of have that platform to you know,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: hold those those discussions, right, which is warranted. Right, We
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: have to have that because it is you know, it's
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: competitive at the end of the day. It's it is
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: a sport, you know. Yeah, and it's the number one
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: genre music in the world, so exactly, so we're going
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: to have opinions. People are gonna, right, but I've just
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: founded as myself as an artist that could hinder my
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: my you know, I'm worried so much about how this
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: isn't good for the culture that I'm not focusing enough
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: on your shit, exactly. That's fair. Yeah, and then you
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: get bitter, and you know, you just I think it's
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: funny how like throughout our whole life, there's always been
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: like some version of like the real rap versus the
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: commercial ship. Yeah, and it just keeps like reinventing itself,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: like error by era where it's like, you know, twenty
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: seventeen it was it's that SoundCloud mumble shit you know
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: what I say? Yeah, right, and it's like I just
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: feel like there's always this like conversation about like, oh,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: that's that's that there's always a genre of a subgenre
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: of hip hop that's like easy to kind of write
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: off as like ey But at the end of the day,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: if you can kind of understand, there's certain places for everything,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Like if I'm in the club, I love hearing all
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: this shit. You know what I'm saying exactly. There's a
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: time and a place for if I'm on a road trip, right,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean I would love to listen to
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Herbert exactly, so you know what I'm saying, Like, and
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: then you look at you know, like just twenty seventeen
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: mumble rap on SoundCloud. These guys getting millions of views.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: They're getting millions of views for a reason. There that
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: era that I mean that was just as examp. No,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: you're right, you're right. They were getting a lot of
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: views based on everything but the music though. That to
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: me that that was like peak Instagram antiqu Oh okay,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: well see that opens up a whole nother. There was
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: like Instagram influencers getting record deals in twenty sevens, right,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: you know that's a whole you know, like, but you
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: know we got through that. We did get through that.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I feel like we kind of got through outside of
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: the NFT rapper that just that was signed to Capitol
• 24:02
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• 24:05
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• 24:12
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  Speaker 1: I got to ask quick though, I was scared. Have
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: you seen this new Uh, there's like this new program
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: that it like, well, it's like AI generated. Have you
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: seen it where you could like tell it to write
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: you an essay or a song or whatever and it'll
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: write it within seconds, So you could be like write
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: a song about day on the bus and then it'll
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: just right like a or I know, I know they
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: have an AI for every for everything though, but I
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: mean that's just fucking sketch. That's that's not that's see.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Let's check this out. Man. Huh, you're not what a's
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: time to be alive. Would you buy a Tesla robot
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: for your house to like help you around, like you know,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: like maybe like a butler. I would not not a
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Tesla one. No, No, I would not. I like I
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: like when I go when I go to stores, I
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: like to I like to I don't like to self
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: check out. I like to deal with people when I
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: when I talk on the phone, I asked for the operator,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I hit zero over and over representative, representative, customer, servicestmers operator.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: I don't I like to deal with people. That's just
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: me and listen. No, for sure, that's the most frustrated
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: ship is when you call somebody, talk to a human
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: being about something. Yeah, you could use our self automated system. Yeah,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: like I mean, and guess what you know, that's the future.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: That's technology we can't can't hide from me, can't run
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: from it. But you know that's just me. Yeah, it's
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: fucking to me some of the ship they're talking about. Well,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: how is it We've made all these movies that are
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: a warning of what happens if we go down this
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: path too much? Didn't nobody watch these fucking movies and
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: we're still turning this ship up? Like what is happening?
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Like nobody saw a fucking Terminator or eye robot? Like
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: the fuck is going on with these people? You're not
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: getting the neuralink chip? No, yeah, you think Elon could
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: be alien? They say, like Terminator was. I think Terminator
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: was the prequel of the Matrix. I think ship. I
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: didn't hear that. Looking at that now and watch all
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: of them in mind, go ahead, Yeah, I think if
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: we're talking about aliens, if anybody is kind of an alien,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: it's probably Elon Musk. Oh yeah, yeah he's an interesting cat.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Elon, if you're watching this, man, yeah, just
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: I just I just need one B. Just give me
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: one man, I just please, I rap really well. Check
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: out my album. Wait what did you say you need
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: one B? What is that? A billion? Oh? A billion? Okay,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: just just throw me one man. You got you got plenty,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: just run, he said. He said a lot on Twitter.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Check out my new album, man, Herbert. It's out now. Man.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: It's very personal, you know what I'm saying. I put
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: everything I had into it. I just need one billion, man.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Just look out for your boy. Man. Yo, when you
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: look back at like early TD days, I think back to,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: like I think the first time I probably met you
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: was it was probably like twenty ten. I was living
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: in Vegas and Kendrick had a show at a place
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: called the Forbes Lounge and you opened two dope boys
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: was there doing the expos on you guys. Shot to
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: my guy shaking those guys Mecca. But uh, it's just
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: it's just crazy to see and I remember you guys
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: were the first guys who, like, during the mixtape era,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: was making me buy shit on iTunes. It was frustrating
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: as fuck, man, So like everybody's fucking apps. I was
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: calling it the mixtape and I gotta fucking go on
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: iTunes and spent twelve dollars on this fucking thing. Very
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: smart obviously, but just like to see like what this
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: whole thing has become. Sometimes we like don't realize that
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: we're in it, and we don't sit back and appreciate
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: where we came from. I'm like that exactly because it's
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: like I don't like, I remember if I as a kid,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: if I if I could just make thirty grand a
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: year doing radio, you'd have told me I made it.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I'd have been happy the rest of my life. So
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I don't ever like go back too much and think
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: to myself, like, damn, like how far you came? Do
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: you ever do you ever like take the time to
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: appreciate the journey that it's been and how how you
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: guys are like have shaped the culture. That's exactly what
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: this album is about. It's about like going it's nostalgic,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: It's about getting back to the root of it, Like,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: you know, we did more with less. Let's getting back
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: to the foundation. Like that's why it's like simply called Herbert,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: it's simply my name. It's simply about that, like what
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: it took to get to this point, Like, and I
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: felt like I was getting too far away from that.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: You know, I was just becoming this you know, this
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: this this this character even you know, I was becoming
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: apps sold versus you know, this album is for This
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: album is for the people who will never call me
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: apps all that that I'm still Herb. I'm still I'm
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: still a little Herb. I'm still Herbert. It's for those people,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: and it just so happens to it's like, you know,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: you know of course, I mean, yeah exactly, because you know,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: it's just about your foundation is everything. Man, the tree
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: grows from the bottom, and if you just if you
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: when you forget that and you you know, you get
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: too far away from that without acknowledging that, without you know,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: appreciating that, right, you know, you could, you know you could,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: you could lose you could lose yourself in this man,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: very very easy. Yeah. And I think it's like sometimes
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: we do ourselves a disservice by not reflecting and not
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: yeah maybe once every few months, just sitting back and
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: just appreciating what you what you got exactly, yeah for sure.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: And it's not it's not a because you could you could,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: You could you could easily like start what a should
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: have cutting too, yeah for sure. And then and then
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: also looking at your peers and then being like, ah, man,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: you know I should, but but that's not it. It's
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: just about like man, like, it's about just the just
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: the journey and just appreciating the journey and what it
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: took to get here and you know, everybody that was
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: involved and you know everything that you know, It's just
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: it's you know, it's very important that we stay connected,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: you know, to the to the bottom. Yep, you know
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And that's that's that's basically what the
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: album is about. It's not it's not that deep this time, right,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: you know, it's not. It's really not that deep this time.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: It's just really about the last album a little deeper,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: a little Jesus. Yeah, I took it to Cairo. It's hieroglyphic,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I mean, you know, yeah,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: it's a classic you know to me. But I mean,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: you know, but I'm saying, like, so this was me
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: just trying to get back toself Man before before all
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: of this stuff. You know, can you give me any
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: sort of insight because I know a lot of people,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: you know, have already gotten over the fact that the
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: black hippie Album of Lores came and went. You know,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: but how many songs or if any, were set aside
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: for this this detox of a dream that we all had.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: It could be zero. It could be three. I don't
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: know how many, how many, like how many records were
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: like conservatively like, Okay, if we do this black hippie thing,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: this is this is in that folder on that hard drug.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Well that's what I'm gonna say. That's why I say again,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: we did more with less, so you know, I don't
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: want to you know, yeah, but fuck wack hippie man dumb.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I'm the best rapper at all them that niggas can't
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: rap with me, you know what I'm saying. I mean,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: we do know Q can owt golf you though, absolutely,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: that's that's been that's been proven. Right. Yeah, he's a
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: uh he's on that golf course. Jesus Christ. Has he
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: ever have you like gone like actually when he Have
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: you been golfing with him? No? Not yet. Yeah, he said,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: I with your vision situation, I'd waste time. I was
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: gonna say, with your vision situation, is you going golfing
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: the safest thing? I mean, I know, I know you're
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: not blind blind, but like I mean to say this,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: it's not a safety issue. He just was like, Bro,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: you be holding us up. I'm not gonna have you
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: out there. We're trying to you know what I mean,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Like he's like a fucking pronoun. He's really he really
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: does that ship. So that's just the whole thing. But
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: like you know, I'm sure I get out there. Just
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I've never like been on an actual golf course. Have
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: you been to Top Golf? I went to That's what
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. You saw me on top school. Top golf
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: is cool, But I'm saying, one day I want to
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: like go on the actual golf course and get in
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: the cart the card, have some beers and you know,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: shoot the ship, meet the meet the rich people. You know,
• 36:09
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  Speaker 1: I watched Seinfeld first. I never I didn't get it.
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  Speaker 1: yeah I am when we talk about a Jedi. Yeah
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  Speaker 1: was he I don't know. I wouldn't held the gun. No,
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  Speaker 1: is the best thing that they ever put out. But
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  Speaker 1: In your opinion, who's in that Jedi club? Wow? Mm
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  Speaker 1: hm the Jedi Club Man, Jesus, I hate naming names, man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm with the guys, man, and let's and let's do this.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Can we say that before you start naming names. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna then I'm asking you this on the fly, so
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: you might leave some names off. I'm gonna leave some
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  Speaker 1: names off. Man. I have to say, you know, Kendrick,
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  Speaker 1: of course, man, he's but you know, me and Kendrick
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  Speaker 1: are Kenning ryu You know what I'm saying. I'm I'm
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  Speaker 1: Ken He's Ryo. Of course I have to say that.
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• 43:49
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  Speaker 1: all time? See your hip hop ad? Cannabis cannabis fuck, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but it's understood. Yeah, I had him on the show
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  Speaker 1: one of the biggest influence, one of the biggest influences
• 44:25
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  Speaker 1: I mean he's a peculiar guy. Yeah, but you know
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  Speaker 1: he's But like I said, yeah, no for sure, No,
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  Speaker 1: for sure. That's a great answer. By the way, this
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: is definitely one of the most underrated rappers ever. Yeah,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: but I think it's like because he's kind of like
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• 45:24
  Speaker 1: they're talking about like him, kind of they're talking about him,
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• 45:39
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• 45:42
  Speaker 1: Not long at all? Okay, I'm telling you it only
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: you know. I don't want to blame the pandemic want
• 45:49
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• 45:51
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• 45:58
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• 46:02
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• 46:06
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• 46:08
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• 46:19
  Speaker 1: is great because we all represent each other. And that's
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• 46:26
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• 46:39
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• 46:41
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• 46:43
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• 46:47
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• 46:49
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• 46:51
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• 46:54
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• 46:57
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• 46:59
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• 47:23
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• 47:26
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• 47:39
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  Speaker 1: black hippie Okay. I like that. Actually we could have
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: switched names, like they should be Black Hippie and we
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: should have been Coast Contra. It would have made more sense, Darren.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: They're incredible, man, he don't act me. So new albums
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: before the next two years. You say, we get Ano
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: another album in the next but by twenty twenty five,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: up we have another album. Yes, okay, tour midyear, summer spring,
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: very soon line lining it up as we speak, very soon.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Stay tuned, So new tour coming. Obviously you have not
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: seen the fans for a while, so be on the
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: lookout for that. Wait, please show up, please come out.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have a great time. I got a lot
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: of a lot of surprises, a lot of things in
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: the store. It's going to be We're going to have
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: a great time. Merches out, Merches Out. March is available.
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: I think we got the vinyl. I think it still
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: might be some you know we you know, we make
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: cassettes with the Walkman the Box, which is which is
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: super super dope. You know, Like I said, you know,
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: my first demo was on cassette. Like I come from that,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Like two questions before you leave one. Yeah, you brought
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: up the source earlier. What's an album that didn't get
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: five mics? It should have got five mics. First one
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: that comes to your head, I'll start Doggy Style. Doug
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Style only got four and a half mikes. Fucking crazy.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: I think what's the name Wayne? I don't think the
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Carter the first one, the first one they slided him.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: Yeahman Jr. Was my ship, Jesus christ I missed my dogs.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Come on, oh man, I think they slided Wayne on
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: the Carter. I think they had to rewrite the blueprint.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: I don't think they gave the blueprint five mikes the
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: first time. I think they had to. They didn't give
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: reasonable doubt five mics. Yeah, they didn't give reasonable five mics.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: They didn't give but they went back and gave the
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: blueprint five. I remember that, though. I don't think thirty
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: six Chambers got five mics. Jesus Christy what I'm saying? Yeah?
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: So I mean I come from that airlight to where
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: it's like it mattered. Yeah it mattered. Yeah that Like seriously,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: the last thing, tell me about the craziest psychedelic trip
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: you've ever been on. We will leave with a good
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: trip story or a bad trip me I wish I
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: could tell you who brought us the shrooms. That would
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: be so fucking crazy, but I won't out of respect.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you off camera, random famous person bought your rooms.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: It'll be so it'll be so crazy. Uh, Kim Kardashian shrooms, right, Yeah,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: shout out to Kim. You know what I'm saying? How me? Uh,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: with all due respect, that was That was not she's single, man, No,
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: not even that. I just love Kim. She's just she's
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: just dope. Kim is just dope. I didn't even mean it.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: I didn't even mean she's just dope. Uh, what's her name?
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Me and q dis shrooms together for the first time,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: and we were literally telepathic, like literally like you guys
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: were fucking on the same wave, like we were bugging
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: the funk out. And I was laying down on the
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: ground on my head. You can ask me, I swear
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: I would I buy on the ground like like almost
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: like in the feet, right mm hmm. And then he
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: asked me in his head, he said, bro, are we
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: mind bouncing right now? In his head? And I said, yes,
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: we are, Bro. Stop you're tripping me the fuck out.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: And this is a true story. That's my that was
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: my illess psychedelic experience. And you can ask him. That's amazing.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Really happened. And then we went on to do an
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: excellent show. Oh you guys did that before show, sir,
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: kudos to you. Was that like the best show ever?
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: I can't remember, but I have done. I have done
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: one excellent on my last tour, off off of the Yeah.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: See the thing is yeah. But before I go ahead,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: before I continue, be careful, guys, you have to be careful.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Please be careful. Microdoes first like listen, just just psychedelics
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: are mind altering drug substance. Just be careful. You gotta
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: be careful with anything to do with anything that you do.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Please be careful. I just want to be I need
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: to say that because I've kind of been. You've been
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: on the part I've been. I'm the third eye guy.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: You've gotten to the edge of the cliff, dark side
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: of the moon. I'm I'm and I'm kinda I kind
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: of represent that for sure. That a right, which is
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: not which I own. I'm not. I'm not saying that,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: but I just really want everyone to hear from me.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: You gotta be careful, be careful. You got to be
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: around the right people. You gotta be the environment, in
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: the right environment, be safe, and and if you're gonna
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: do d MT, be really in the right environment. Do
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: it with intent. That's not these aren't. You don't do
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: sykes to get high. You do it with intent. You
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: do it with intent to to to experience, to learn,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: to to to gain, to get a message, to expand,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: to to send. Just I just want to make that clear,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: like we're not it's important. Yeah, it's important. We're not
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: doing it too because it's not get high. You do
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: it for therapeuticgree therapeutic self discovery, self discovery for those
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: that's I just want to make that clear. I'm like
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: some ship you do and go to the club even
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: never condone that exactly. I just want to make that clear,
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: just coming from me because I've you know, been kind
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: of like a you have a lot of respect for
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: that and what it can do for you, right, you know,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: people come up to me like, you know, I want
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: to bring me Hey, man, eat this ship. Listen Tripballna. No,
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: it's not that kind of party. I respect it, man,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: We'll listen. Herbert is out some great body of work.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: Have fun, though, have fun. Yeah, that's just you know,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: a nice It comes along with it albums out man,
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: go support it. I appreciate the time, brother, appreciate you.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: So my guys, Yes, sir Fire