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- 0:00Speaker 1: We got to talk about the LSU game. So we
- 0:02Speaker 1: brought the expert then knows out of talk Ball here
- 0:04Speaker 1: on the Sooner or Later sports show I'll Beat Your production,
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- 0:21Speaker 1: give us five anyway, and gifted. So we brought Colin
- 0:24Speaker 1: Kennedy back. He's becoming. He got a tooth brush in
- 0:27Speaker 1: the back now, he's a part of the household, part
- 0:29Speaker 1: of family. Can't go nowhere, No, mok man, how are
- 0:32Speaker 1: you doing today?
- 0:33Speaker 2: Dot? Happy Thanksgiving? My friend, Happy Thanksgiving? Uh?
- 0:38Speaker 1: You know what?
- 0:39Speaker 2: I am thankful for you. I am thankful for the
- 0:42Speaker 2: good folks out there that tune into your channel and
- 0:45Speaker 2: the CKNJ show. We came up with this quase idea,
- 0:50Speaker 2: and in a way it's kind of taken on a
- 0:53Speaker 2: life of its own, even if that's because everyone just
- 0:56Speaker 2: makes fun of us for talking a little too much football.
- 0:59Speaker 2: I'm thankful or that I'm thankful for this beautiful sport,
- 1:03Speaker 2: and again I am I'm glad we get to do
- 1:05Speaker 2: this stuff, especially at this time of the year. So
- 1:08Speaker 2: can't wait for the LSU game coming up this weekend.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Even as a little anti climatic more on that, Neessarid,
- 1:14Speaker 2: it really is.
- 1:15Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I am thankful for you as well,
- 1:19Speaker 1: thank happy Thanksgiving and thankful for you feel it coming
- 1:24Speaker 1: in and joining and talking ball with me. And I
- 1:26Speaker 1: love that the fact that every time I go onto
- 1:28Speaker 1: two four seven board and you post it life dude,
- 1:30Speaker 1: y'all really went for.
- 1:31Speaker 2: An hour and a half.
- 1:32Speaker 1: Wait, you really went for an hour and Mike, we
- 1:35Speaker 1: just started to get into conversation and you start to
- 1:37Speaker 1: theory craft and you know that stuff happens. And that's
- 1:40Speaker 1: the best part about this beautiful game, as you mentioned,
- 1:44Speaker 1: is that there's so many things to talk about, and
- 1:46Speaker 1: so we're gonna get into that. We're gonna talk about
- 1:47Speaker 1: the LSU game. I do want to touch on a
- 1:49Speaker 1: little bit of recruiting because we've seen these multiple flips.
- 1:52Speaker 1: Please make sure you go tune over there to the
- 1:55Speaker 1: Sooner's Illustrated channel where Ck is always talking recruiting every Thursday.
- 2:01Speaker 1: Uh do y'all have a Thanksgiving episode coming out today.
- 2:05Speaker 2: We dropped recruiting podcast episode today, so that being Wednesday,
- 2:12Speaker 2: I think, this what's going on.
- 2:15Speaker 1: It's your prep holiday prep, so you don't know what
- 2:19Speaker 1: day it is either exact same. So yes, Wednesday's episode
- 2:22Speaker 1: is up, go watch it. I haven't got a chance
- 2:24Speaker 1: to watch it because why I was doing holiday prep
- 2:26Speaker 1: all day on Wednesday.
- 2:28Speaker 2: So perfect, we'll do that.
- 2:30Speaker 1: The biggest thing, though, is Oklahoma pulled out a win
- 2:35Speaker 1: against Missouri in a very more dominant fashion, and people
- 2:39Speaker 1: realize while at the same time garbage non garbage time,
- 2:43Speaker 1: it wasn't like if you staut of war Parker Fleming,
- 2:47Speaker 1: you always dropped the the advanced numbers and asked, did
- 2:50Speaker 1: we really get beat that bad? The margins weren't huge,
- 2:53Speaker 1: but you could tell it was a dominant because Missouri
- 2:57Speaker 1: is a team that runs the ball very very very good,
- 3:02Speaker 1: the number one running back in the country, the best
- 3:05Speaker 1: tandem in college football, and they couldn't even get to
- 3:10Speaker 1: one hundred yards against US combined. Hell, John Matier outran
- 3:15Speaker 1: Matt Hardy in this game. That tells everything you need
- 3:18Speaker 1: to know. Six sixty to fifty seven, So and that's
- 3:22Speaker 1: even adjusted after you take sacks out. That's not even
- 3:25Speaker 1: its actual gross yards. Even more wild if you really
- 3:28Speaker 1: think about it. So c K. When now at that game,
- 3:34Speaker 1: the dust is set on, we're preparing for LSU. I'm
- 3:38Speaker 1: gonna be honest, I think this game should be a
- 3:40Speaker 1: replica of that one. There's really no excuse for it
- 3:43Speaker 1: not to be. How'd you feel about the way this
- 3:45Speaker 1: team has performed? Because we know the defense is great,
- 3:47Speaker 1: but how are you feeling about them?
- 3:49Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, look, I think that between that game
- 3:54Speaker 2: and this game coming up this weekend, it really does
- 3:57Speaker 2: feel like the first one to seventeen points is gonna
- 3:59Speaker 2: win every Oklahoma football contest from here on out, because,
- 4:03Speaker 2: like I mean, they you mentioned it. They took the
- 4:08Speaker 2: best rushing offense in the SEC. They took a rushing
- 4:12Speaker 2: offense that was averaging more than two hundred and forty
- 4:15Speaker 2: yards a game, and if I remember correctly, I don't
- 4:19Speaker 2: know that amatde Hardy even really had a yard in
- 4:22Speaker 2: the second half of play.
- 4:25Speaker 1: It was they had zero net yards. They had nine
- 4:28Speaker 1: gross yards, but bo sacks were negative nine yards. They
- 4:33Speaker 1: finished with zero rushing yards in.
- 4:36Speaker 2: Zero rushing yards in the second half that rushing attempts.
- 4:42Speaker 2: So that was the other thing too. Man, It's like
- 4:44Speaker 2: they took that rushing offense and they forced Mazou to
- 4:47Speaker 2: throw the ball. And I I know that sounds like
- 4:52Speaker 2: a pretty simple sentence, but when you are able to
- 4:55Speaker 2: take ranked teams out of their own tendencies to that agree,
- 5:01Speaker 2: that's a problem for everybody. That's a real, real problem.
- 5:06Speaker 2: And I think coming up this weekend, you're facing another
- 5:11Speaker 2: team that there are clear tendencies. We know that LSU
- 5:15Speaker 2: at times this season has struggled to run the football
- 5:18Speaker 2: they're dealing. I mean, our med senence at CBS Sports
- 5:21Speaker 2: reported today that Van Buren is going to get the start.
- 5:24Speaker 2: That decision has been made and nuss Meyer was ruled
- 5:28Speaker 2: out on the availability to report tonight, so you kind
- 5:33Speaker 2: of know what you're getting. And the Tigers, and we
- 5:36Speaker 2: talked about it a little bit with Tennessee and Alabama
- 5:40Speaker 2: and then MISSOI it's like a one dimensional football team.
- 5:44Speaker 2: It's an uphill battle to beat Oklahoma. If you lean
- 5:47Speaker 2: on one aspect of the game, you're really gonna have
- 5:51Speaker 2: to find some sort of unique winning recipe to counter
- 5:56Speaker 2: this Oklahoma defense. And so far it's been really hard
- 5:59Speaker 2: for their to do that. Yeah, whether that's on the
- 6:03Speaker 2: road or at home. And I think I think that's
- 6:05Speaker 2: huge man, not just obviously coming up this weekend, but
- 6:08Speaker 2: moving forward into what could be a postseason bit. Yeah.
- 6:11Speaker 1: And it's funny because going into the season, in my
- 6:15Speaker 1: prediction for the year was this was gonna be a
- 6:20Speaker 1: playoff implication game for us. If we do what we're
- 6:22Speaker 1: supposed to do, if we if we handle business, if
- 6:27Speaker 1: we play the way we're supposed to, we'll be fighting
- 6:31Speaker 1: LSU for a spot. And the good thing for us
- 6:35Speaker 1: is is if we lose, it'll be okay, nine and three.
- 6:38Speaker 1: The gauntlet will be amazing and we survived it, and
- 6:42Speaker 1: we will be in heavy consideration for an at large
- 6:46Speaker 1: bid because we played so many tough teams. Well, that
- 6:49Speaker 1: didn't happen. LSU is awful right now. They're hurt. Everything's
- 6:55Speaker 1: falling apart. They have fired their coach, everybody's pets, heads
- 6:59Speaker 1: are falling off, you name it. It's going bad for
- 7:02Speaker 1: them to right now. And based upon the conversations I've
- 7:07Speaker 1: seen running around on social media, you know what, Colin,
- 7:10Speaker 1: let me point this out because I'm mentioned about the
- 7:12Speaker 1: conversation around social media. I've never seen a team or
- 7:16Speaker 1: a fan base conceit so damn fast in my life
- 7:19Speaker 1: that I've seen with LSU fans over the last week,
- 7:22Speaker 1: Like they have literally said, I've seen, I've heard seen
- 7:25Speaker 1: some of the most trash talking its accounts say yeah,
- 7:30Speaker 1: y'all gonna walk into that room with that knife. We're
- 7:33Speaker 1: gonna be laying on the ground already in own blood anyway,
- 7:36Speaker 1: Like wait, what, like y'all are basically laying down. It's oh, yeah,
- 7:41Speaker 1: they hate this team.
- 7:42Speaker 2: You mentioned this.
- 7:43Speaker 1: They hate this team, and that is wild to me.
- 7:47Speaker 2: Yeah, I to your point. I think that it is
- 7:52Speaker 2: crazy to think back and say if I would have
- 7:54Speaker 2: told you months ago, before the start of the season,
- 7:58Speaker 2: if I would have looked at you and said, hey, man,
- 8:00Speaker 2: Home is going to play LSU with a bid for
- 8:03Speaker 2: the College Football Playoff on the line, you would have
- 8:06Speaker 2: looked at me and said, oh, man, that's going to
- 8:08Speaker 2: be an all out brawl. Two of the best teams
- 8:11Speaker 2: in the SEC, maybe two of the best teams in
- 8:12Speaker 2: the country. Maybe LSU's fighting for a shot at the
- 8:15Speaker 2: SEC title. Oklahoma, that's a premier matchup on rivalry weekend,
- 8:21Speaker 2: And I maybe would have cut you off and said, hey,
- 8:23Speaker 2: LSU's actually not only going to be a complete shell
- 8:27Speaker 2: of itself, falling apart, losing people left and right, having
- 8:32Speaker 2: fired not only their head coach, their offensive coordinator. If
- 8:36Speaker 2: I would have looked at you in the middle of
- 8:37Speaker 2: all of that and said everything I just said, but
- 8:40Speaker 2: then say, and by the way, the Tigers fan base
- 8:45Speaker 2: hates this team, like it is very clear you're not
- 8:49Speaker 2: just playing a team that is struggling internally, they are
- 8:53Speaker 2: struggling externally to a degree. I don't know that I've
- 8:57Speaker 2: seen something like this before. I mean, you know, we're
- 8:59Speaker 2: joking about it before. You and I have both seen
- 9:02Speaker 2: LSU fans, LSU reporters, just LSU people in general dogging
- 9:09Speaker 2: this team, dragging them through the mud to the degree
- 9:12Speaker 2: of like I mean, again, we've talked about this. I
- 9:15Speaker 2: try not to tune into too many other shows so
- 9:18Speaker 2: that my opinions don't get formulated by others. But I
- 9:22Speaker 2: saw the viral rant from t Bob on Gab and
- 9:26Speaker 2: Teddy show boy Man that is, and here's the thing,
- 9:34Speaker 2: he didn't say one lie. He didn't say one lie
- 9:36Speaker 2: about it either, right, so it I'll say this, I
- 9:42Speaker 2: hate it. I hate it for LSU. It sucks that
- 9:46Speaker 2: a program that proud is in the mud like this.
- 9:52Speaker 2: But I'm not only curious for your take on it.
- 9:56Speaker 2: I am curious if you think that hopes hurts Oklahoma
- 10:02Speaker 2: going into this setting.
- 10:03Speaker 1: Ooh, you know, that's a good one. That's a good one,
- 10:09Speaker 1: because first off, yeah, one, they do hate this team.
- 10:14Speaker 1: They don't expect this team to be any good. I
- 10:16Speaker 1: remember at the beginning of the season, the LSU reporters
- 10:20Speaker 1: were saying they spent twenty something million dollars in the
- 10:24Speaker 1: portal to build this roster. They lost basically all of
- 10:31Speaker 1: their starting offensive linemen going into the season. And you know,
- 10:35Speaker 1: that's something that we didn't in consideration, even though more
- 10:38Speaker 1: so last year, to be told, they have four dudes
- 10:40Speaker 1: go to the NFL, and we didn't really really feel
- 10:42Speaker 1: like that line was that good. We all had questions
- 10:45Speaker 1: about that line. Is that line actually is good as advertised?
- 10:49Speaker 1: And they lost four dudes to the NFL with Will
- 10:51Speaker 1: Campbell going number four, then you look at them this year.
- 10:57Speaker 1: I he replacing the whole line, but they should have
- 10:59Speaker 1: some dudes better, possibly like one of their top backups
- 11:03Speaker 1: left because he had no chance of playing Lanceardi starting,
- 11:06Speaker 1: you know, tackle their tendency. Hell, Oklahoma was looking at
- 11:08Speaker 1: him he had the bound because he wasn't going to
- 11:10Speaker 1: go in the game. But then you think about it,
- 11:13Speaker 1: like Texas had the same problem, Like they replaced all
- 11:16Speaker 1: those linemen and you start to notice that as the
- 11:18Speaker 1: season started as like, oh, yeah, they're struggling, like this
- 11:21Speaker 1: is not very good for them. Now they're getting better
- 11:23Speaker 1: as we go, But the biggest thing for LSU is
- 11:26Speaker 1: they not even healthy. It's that bad.
- 11:30Speaker 2: C K.
- 11:30Speaker 1: I would have never guessed that it had been this awful
- 11:32Speaker 1: for them this fast, and so this it's not going
- 11:36Speaker 1: to be the game that we were excited about at
- 11:39Speaker 1: the beginning of the season. Like I just honestly, I'm
- 11:42Speaker 1: trying trying to figure out exactly where the path is
- 11:45Speaker 1: for LSU to actually score points if it's not defensive touchdowns.
- 11:49Speaker 1: Because they struggled against Western Kentucky.
- 11:52Speaker 2: Dog. Yeah, what was that final score again?
- 11:54Speaker 1: Thirteen to ten? That is awful in Western Kentucky's I mean,
- 12:04Speaker 1: they're eight and three, but they're not a good defensive team. No,
- 12:10Speaker 1: that is no excuse to it, right, M Like.
- 12:15Speaker 2: Wow, man, okay, let me put this out there. Then
- 12:19Speaker 2: to the question that I had earlier about whether this
- 12:22Speaker 2: helps or hurts Oklahoma, this kind of setting Number one,
- 12:27Speaker 2: with all of this taken into consideration, is this LSU
- 12:31Speaker 2: team basically this year's version of Oklahoma last year? And
- 12:38Speaker 2: number two, because keep in mind everything from everyone getting hurt,
- 12:44Speaker 2: especially on the offensive line, to a coordinator change to
- 12:51Speaker 2: I don't know, Bower Sharp and Nick Anderson are on
- 12:54Speaker 2: this football team and Nick Anderson is hurt. There's a
- 12:59Speaker 2: lot of similarities. But number two, could this LSU team
- 13:06Speaker 2: that might be a little bit similar because they do
- 13:08Speaker 2: have talent. Could this kind of end up being like
- 13:13Speaker 2: the Oklahoma Alabama game last year, except in this world
- 13:18Speaker 2: it's LSU trying to play the role of Oklahoma while
- 13:22Speaker 2: playing against Oklahoma, You know what I mean.
- 13:27Speaker 1: So I am picking up what you are putting down.
- 13:32Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that that's gonna happen either.
- 13:34Speaker 1: Smell what the rock is cooking. But the problem is
- 13:37Speaker 1: I don't see a path of them cooking to do
- 13:40Speaker 1: that because kay Durham's hurt. Of course, Harlem is a
- 13:46Speaker 1: very good running back. But what yeah, I think the
- 13:52Speaker 1: big difference with I put it this way, we demolished Maine.
- 13:58Speaker 1: Before we played Bama, we ran for two hundred something yards.
- 14:03Speaker 1: Shout out to Javonte Barnes. They couldn't figure it out
- 14:08Speaker 1: against Western Kentucky Dog. They told me, all I need to.
- 14:12Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, I here's the way I look at it.
- 14:16Speaker 2: Caden Durham is probable, as of tonight's availability or report,
- 14:21Speaker 2: if he plays in this game with a Harlem Barry.
- 14:23Speaker 2: I think those are two running backs that you and
- 14:26Speaker 2: I talk about this a lot. Just because it's not
- 14:29Speaker 2: working at the time doesn't mean it just can't work
- 14:32Speaker 2: right correct talent, you have ability At some point the
- 14:36Speaker 2: switch it will flip. Does that happen? I don't know.
- 14:40Speaker 2: I don't think so, especially with the injuries on the
- 14:43Speaker 2: offensive line. But you know some of these offensive linemen
- 14:47Speaker 2: are at LSU for a reason too, That's true. And
- 14:52Speaker 2: I think that this LSU defense, I know we're talking
- 14:57Speaker 2: about this game being pretty anti climatic. I think think
- 15:00Speaker 2: this LSU defense is still really damn good that I
- 15:05Speaker 2: think this LSU defense people may not be overly familiar.
- 15:10Speaker 2: They have had all of about zero point zero percent
- 15:14Speaker 2: of offensive support on the season, and I got tagged
- 15:19Speaker 2: in something I almost had a heart attack.
- 15:22Speaker 1: Uh oh, that's always fun.
- 15:24Speaker 2: I thought it was something that you and I talked
- 15:27Speaker 2: about there for a second. I think this LSU defense
- 15:31Speaker 2: is really good. I think they've got a lot of
- 15:33Speaker 2: talented players up towards the line of scrimmage. I think
- 15:35Speaker 2: some of those defensive backs are extremely talented as well.
- 15:39Speaker 2: You know, aj is a guy that, like I was
- 15:43Speaker 2: a huge fan of as a recruit, a guy that
- 15:46Speaker 2: I begged some college staffs to offer along with some
- 15:49Speaker 2: of my cohorts in the media space. And now to
- 15:51Speaker 2: see him thriving is very cool. Mansor delayne elite defensive back.
- 15:57Speaker 2: The list goes on and on, and like I said too,
- 16:00Speaker 2: like that front seven ish played a big reason why
- 16:04Speaker 2: Alabama struggled at times playing this LSU team. And so
- 16:09Speaker 2: I don't know. I think that this LSU team well,
- 16:14Speaker 2: certainly down presents some challenges and I don't know. I
- 16:20Speaker 2: just this is not necessarily a team that I think
- 16:22Speaker 2: Oklahoma can take lightly by any stretching. I don't think
- 16:25Speaker 2: that they will, But I do think LSU has some
- 16:27Speaker 2: stuff to bring to the table that would that would
- 16:31Speaker 2: draw your attention, you know what I mean?
- 16:34Speaker 1: No, I think you speak a fair point there that
- 16:39Speaker 1: they have a bunch of talent all across there. But
- 16:44Speaker 1: I guess it's a good transition right point right here
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- 18:40Speaker 1: report Nick Anderson and Aaron Anderson, So the Anderson Boys
- 18:44Speaker 1: are not playing. Yeah, Gary Nussmyer of course is out.
- 18:48Speaker 1: Michael van Buren has been announced. It to be his
- 18:49Speaker 1: third straight game starting. They've got three offensive linemeness and
- 18:54Speaker 1: I expected to play Braylan Moore, Ory Williams, Tyree Adams,
- 18:58Speaker 1: and it's expected none of those three will play. Like
- 19:01Speaker 1: right now, they're questionable for two of those linemen, but
- 19:04Speaker 1: their report has been from Pete Thamil as well. I
- 19:06Speaker 1: think Matt Zennith and Pete Nakos like now they ain't playing,
- 19:11Speaker 1: they sit in them And then with Weeks, it sounds
- 19:13Speaker 1: like Weeks had broke his ankle. He found out he
- 19:17Speaker 1: had a fractured ankle. But now he's potentially gonna play
- 19:22Speaker 1: for a bit, but he can't play all game because
- 19:24Speaker 1: of his injuries. I am one hundred curious to what
- 19:31Speaker 1: the heck this team is gonna look like on that
- 19:33Speaker 1: O line. They have to basically replace their O line twice.
- 19:37Speaker 1: That is not what Oklahoma had to do last year.
- 19:40Speaker 1: We ended up luckily playing with a lot of the
- 19:44Speaker 1: same players with the injuries through the last part of
- 19:50Speaker 1: the year to get better. So I don't know if
- 19:54Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to have to our front seven,
- 19:56Speaker 1: I'll say that I.
- 19:57Speaker 2: Don't think so. Tell you the one redeeming quality that
- 20:02Speaker 2: LSU has going into this game. It is portal tape season,
- 20:08Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, it is. It is portal tape season.
- 20:13Speaker 2: You get one more shot to put some stuff on film,
- 20:17Speaker 2: especially if you're a backup. They're gonna be playing a
- 20:20Speaker 2: lot of backups in this game. Yeah, one more shot
- 20:24Speaker 2: to show the new coaching staff or a different coaching
- 20:29Speaker 2: staff what you're capable of. That's kind of what the
- 20:33Speaker 2: Tigers have to hang their hat on in this one. Hey,
- 20:35Speaker 2: let's get all these guys who are basically mercenaries at
- 20:38Speaker 2: this point to go play their ass off and maybe
- 20:42Speaker 2: make the most of the portal season coming up in January.
- 20:46Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly what it is. And they're gonna have
- 20:49Speaker 1: a lot of go hearts because they recognize that exact thing.
- 20:53Speaker 1: This is my opportunity to get a look when the
- 20:57Speaker 1: portal opens in January. Now, granted, LSU is seven and four,
- 21:00Speaker 1: so they are bow eligible, So the expectation is they
- 21:03Speaker 1: will make a bowl game, but that don't mean much.
- 21:07Speaker 2: That's opt out season.
- 21:09Speaker 1: That's opt out season, especially for their NFL guys. So yeah,
- 21:12Speaker 1: it's kind of like we'll see what happens. But the
- 21:16Speaker 1: anticipation here is they're they're gonna they said they're gonna
- 21:20Speaker 1: play a lot of new people, a lot of young
- 21:22Speaker 1: players are gonna get some run, and the focal points
- 21:26Speaker 1: gonna be, can we actually get enough get enough tape
- 21:34Speaker 1: to use to get my get myself a new a
- 21:39Speaker 1: new team if the current regime doesn't hang on to them,
- 21:42Speaker 1: because the good thing is for them as been stated,
- 21:45Speaker 1: we all know that Lane Kiffin is expected to potential
- 21:48Speaker 1: to take that job. Crazy cycle there, But with that
- 21:54Speaker 1: portion being said, they had nobody leave or hit the
- 21:59Speaker 1: portal really or even de commit from their class. That
- 22:04Speaker 1: is impressive. Like, who was that Peyton Houston we were
- 22:06Speaker 1: going after. We're hoping that we could probably sway him back,
- 22:09Speaker 1: and it's like, nah, I'm an LSU.
- 22:11Speaker 2: Tiger, Lamar Brown sticking around a lot of those elite,
- 22:15Speaker 2: top tier defensive linemen and whoever else they got committed.
- 22:19Speaker 2: It's the LSU helmet man that brand sells itself, especially
- 22:23Speaker 2: in that state. That's the number one home field advantage
- 22:27Speaker 2: in recruiting in all the FBS. I don't even think
- 22:31Speaker 2: it's particularly close. I agree, I think BK getting fired, which,
- 22:37Speaker 2: by the way, I don't know if you saw the news.
- 22:40Speaker 2: They officially filed his termination letter, so they have to
- 22:43Speaker 2: pay him all fifty four million dollars. Could you imagine,
- 22:49Speaker 2: as you and I being grown men, getting a letter saying, hey,
- 22:53Speaker 2: we're gonna give you fifty four million dollars the day
- 22:56Speaker 2: before Thanksgiving. Oh, I'm the most joyous person at the table.
- 23:00Speaker 2: That next day, I'm like, hey, I'm thankful for the
- 23:05Speaker 2: Lamborghini we're gonna buy.
- 23:07Speaker 1: I'm you know, it's funny you say that. As I've
- 23:13Speaker 1: grown as an adult and started to actually make a
- 23:16Speaker 1: couple of coins here and there, and I started to
- 23:20Speaker 1: understand and meet some of these coaches and who these
- 23:23Speaker 1: people are. Yeah, they're used to this money. Of course
- 23:28Speaker 1: it's awesome. But I bet he's in his head like
- 23:31Speaker 1: I need to find the job because his life doesn't
- 23:35Speaker 1: exist without coaching. He is one of those people you
- 23:39Speaker 1: can tell he gets no joy in life unless he's yelling.
- 23:43Speaker 2: At a kid.
- 23:48Speaker 1: So him getting his fifty fours, Like, there you gona
- 23:51Speaker 1: find o those jobs.
- 23:51Speaker 2: We'll yell at somebody is Yeah, I mean if I were,
- 23:55Speaker 2: because I believe he has a duty to mitigate. I
- 23:58Speaker 2: don't know. Yeah, I believe she's required to find a
- 24:01Speaker 2: new job in order to likely receive all of that money.
- 24:06Speaker 1: Yep.
- 24:08Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm calling some program in the MAC and I'm like, hey,
- 24:15Speaker 2: y'all want to come hang out for maybe a year
- 24:17Speaker 2: or two and just scream my head off because like
- 24:19Speaker 2: you don't really necessarily have to pay me all that much.
- 24:22Speaker 1: Nope, or or if you want to be the do
- 24:25Speaker 1: in charge, you kind of just opened.
- 24:28Speaker 2: Man, he would kind of be perfect for that job.
- 24:31Speaker 2: That is a great pull from you.
- 24:35Speaker 1: That is him, That is the that that because I
- 24:37Speaker 1: was thinking, honestly, one of the better jobs to me
- 24:41Speaker 1: that he would qualify for, truth be told, Penn State.
- 24:49Speaker 1: I think his personality fits middle of nowhere America at
- 24:55Speaker 1: a school that just wants to win but find a
- 24:59Speaker 1: way to get over humps. I felt I feel like
- 25:02Speaker 1: he'd fit up there. He feels like a big team coach.
- 25:05Speaker 1: Cincinnati time, the Notre Dame time, feels like he's better
- 25:08Speaker 1: in that area. I am very surprised that they did
- 25:12Speaker 1: not try to go after him, or they haven't tried
- 25:14Speaker 1: to go after.
- 25:15Speaker 2: Him, yet I'm not surprised at all. And I'm just
- 25:17Speaker 2: gonna be honest with you. I think he's kind of
- 25:19Speaker 2: James Franklin but meaner.
- 25:21Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, nobody likes you. It's kind of hard to
- 25:25Speaker 1: really get people to vouch for you.
- 25:26Speaker 2: Yes, fair people you talk about you talk about Penn
- 25:28Speaker 2: State wanting to get over the hump. That's kind of
- 25:31Speaker 2: been BK's biggest issue, besides the fact that he's an ass.
- 25:36Speaker 1: True, and he couldn't get over a hump an LSU
- 25:38Speaker 1: at all places with a Heisman Trophy winner, he.
- 25:40Speaker 2: Couldn't get over the hump at LSU. He couldn't get
- 25:43Speaker 2: over the hump at Notre Dame. I mean Notre Dame
- 25:45Speaker 2: fans were livid that he would constantly win double digit
- 25:49Speaker 2: games and then completely blunder the college football playoff appearances.
- 25:54Speaker 2: So and I mean, look, they ushered him out of town.
- 25:59Speaker 2: They were glad that he left, which is not nothing.
- 26:03Speaker 2: And Marcus Freeman, I'm gonna ride along, like stated at
- 26:10Speaker 2: all for not being interested in BK at all, I
- 26:13Speaker 2: don't know that there's gonna be much market for him
- 26:16Speaker 2: in a number of Power for conferences because he's got
- 26:20Speaker 2: a reputation for not being able to get over the
- 26:22Speaker 2: big game or the hump, and he is just not
- 26:26Speaker 2: liked at all by everybody.
- 26:31Speaker 1: Yeah, very few people actually think anything of him, if
- 26:36Speaker 1: we want to be transparent here. So that's a that's
- 26:40Speaker 1: a fair point. I'm curious to where he does end up.
- 26:44Speaker 1: But that's enough. BK talk.
- 26:46Speaker 2: Let's talk to Aboutklahoma.
- 26:47Speaker 1: Talk Oklahoma and this the way this defense should Well,
- 26:55Speaker 1: we've talked about how the defense is going to terrorize them.
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- 28:04Speaker 1: C K. I'm looking at this geome materier that we
- 28:08Speaker 1: have today, and you know the questions we have right
- 28:10Speaker 1: now is is this man gonna ever become back to
- 28:13Speaker 1: what we had even at Michigan Auburn. Maybe South Carolina.
- 28:18Speaker 1: South Carolina would be a nice version to have. This
- 28:22Speaker 1: is the game and the opportunity to do it now.
- 28:23Speaker 1: LSU's defense is not bad. Like you mentioned, They've got
- 28:26Speaker 1: athletes and their defense is what's going to keep them
- 28:29Speaker 1: in this game. They have one corner mansoor Mane Manzor Delane,
- 28:37Speaker 1: who is a beast. Think he's probably one of the
- 28:41Speaker 1: best graded corners in the country. Like he's absurd. He
- 28:45Speaker 1: is one that shuts down one side of the field,
- 28:47Speaker 1: basically kind of the reincarnation of Lsub and DBU. That's
- 28:53Speaker 1: how good he is. He will be a top pick
- 28:55Speaker 1: in the NFL draft, So half your field's gone. I
- 28:59Speaker 1: don't know who. They may have him line up with Satania,
- 29:03Speaker 1: which means at this point, Dion need to find a
- 29:06Speaker 1: way to get Dion Burk's one on one with harl
- 29:08Speaker 1: Perkins in the slot and make that do work in coverage,
- 29:13Speaker 1: knowing he cannot work in coverage. Yeah, but will John
- 29:16Speaker 1: Matis see them is where the question lies. I'm struggling,
- 29:22Speaker 1: like post injury, there's something going on in between the eyes.
- 29:27Speaker 1: There's something. We all get it, But I'm not on
- 29:30Speaker 1: the train of he's gotta go, can't do it, can't
- 29:35Speaker 1: do it because I need one more year with everybody,
- 29:39Speaker 1: with majority of them together, before I can really say
- 29:42Speaker 1: I trying to move on. And I don't think there's
- 29:47Speaker 1: gonna be a quarterback in the portal that you can
- 29:49Speaker 1: bring in that will instantly come up to speed and
- 29:51Speaker 1: be able to change anything. Personally, What do you think
- 29:55Speaker 1: about Materiar showing something again, tell issue.
- 30:01Speaker 2: No, I mean, I think that he has to and
- 30:04Speaker 2: I think that Oklahoma has told you repeatedly in the
- 30:08Speaker 2: build up over the course of this week. Their plan
- 30:11Speaker 2: is to get him going in a similar manner to
- 30:15Speaker 2: the player you saw earlier on in the season. Like
- 30:19Speaker 2: they talked a lot about this week about getting John
- 30:23Speaker 2: into a little bit of a rhythm offensively. There was
- 30:27Speaker 2: talk about, hey, maybe let's just look to the checkdowns,
- 30:30Speaker 2: let's look down low, see what the defense is providing.
- 30:35Speaker 2: And it's not the worst thing in the world to
- 30:37Speaker 2: try to stay on schedule. Put the ball in the
- 30:39Speaker 2: hands of a playmaker. See if we can't get four yards.
- 30:43Speaker 2: I think that's their headspace going into this game. I
- 30:46Speaker 2: think that to your point, they understand LSU's defensive backs
- 30:50Speaker 2: are talented. The Tigers have one of the best corners
- 30:53Speaker 2: in the country. They've got some safeties that I think
- 30:55Speaker 2: are dudes. They have guys at the mid skill who
- 30:59Speaker 2: can fly around the football field. It's gonna be hard
- 31:03Speaker 2: again to navigate traffic from one sideline to the other,
- 31:08Speaker 2: and that's what John's biggest struggle has been, right, So,
- 31:13Speaker 2: I think that going into this one, what I would
- 31:16Speaker 2: like to see and what I think you're potentially going
- 31:18Speaker 2: to see on Saturday, is them trying to find creative
- 31:22Speaker 2: ways to just timing, get the ball out, make some plays,
- 31:27Speaker 2: move the chains. I think that you could see a
- 31:29Speaker 2: lot of screens, passes out into the flats, things of
- 31:33Speaker 2: that nature. I mean, again, you know I talk about this.
- 31:36Speaker 2: In the f and AFA Missouri game, they targeted the
- 31:41Speaker 2: first level of the field a ton. I know. Obviously
- 31:45Speaker 2: Isaiah Satane's eighty seven yard touchdown goes down as an
- 31:48Speaker 2: explosive play. That was Jehn Matterier flicking the ball out
- 31:53Speaker 2: and Isaiah just tracks speeding downfield when Missoo I believe
- 31:58Speaker 2: is in man covers and there's really no one there.
- 32:01Speaker 2: So that that's for me what I believe, not only
- 32:08Speaker 2: Oklahoma will look like coming this weekend. That's what I
- 32:10Speaker 2: think they plan to do to get John back into form.
- 32:14Speaker 2: And I also think they're looking at him going, hey man,
- 32:17Speaker 2: everyone in our running back room is just not a
- 32:20Speaker 2: one hundred percent We need you to be efficient and
- 32:26Speaker 2: operate effectively, even if that means just taking your check down.
- 32:30Speaker 2: Not only does that help us, hey man, it may
- 32:33Speaker 2: help you too. We'll see how he kind of responds
- 32:36Speaker 2: to that setting up on Saturday.
- 32:38Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all about the bounce Back's got to be
- 32:43Speaker 1: big now. I think the one thing about this game is,
- 32:46Speaker 1: which I think is a good thing, is we go
- 32:49Speaker 1: out there and we win this. We close like we're
- 32:51Speaker 1: supposed to, we make the playoff. We get about three
- 32:58Speaker 1: weeks off because when I play in the Conferce Championship,
- 33:02Speaker 1: which is good, so that whole week's gone. The next
- 33:04Speaker 1: week there's no games, and then you play the end
- 33:06Speaker 1: of the following week, which for me is if we
- 33:12Speaker 1: have the opportunity to do that. And then John heals up,
- 33:19Speaker 1: because the question is is he healthy? Still gonna ask
- 33:22Speaker 1: the question over and over. I don't know if he
- 33:24Speaker 1: really is. And I don't think it's his hand. I
- 33:26Speaker 1: think it's in between here and he's thinking about not
- 33:28Speaker 1: only the hand, but the legs or the knee or
- 33:31Speaker 1: whatever they've been dealing with. I'm gonna keep telling you
- 33:33Speaker 1: all that because that's the thing that I feel like.
- 33:34Speaker 1: It doesn't look like he's planting. He runs north and south,
- 33:38Speaker 1: straight ahead.
- 33:39Speaker 2: He looks great.
- 33:40Speaker 1: That touchdown against Alabama was him running straight. He did
- 33:42Speaker 1: a spind he spinned and just kept his legs moving.
- 33:45Speaker 1: You ain't seen him really cut since Auburn. Actually that
- 33:49Speaker 1: game winning touch the basically the touchdown and gave us
- 33:51Speaker 1: the lead. You ain't seen him cut like that since.
- 33:56Speaker 1: I'm wondering if that's where the problem lies. I think
- 33:59Speaker 1: it's a thought of don't want to hurt myself, and
- 34:05Speaker 1: he's now missing everything easy. But granted he was missing
- 34:08Speaker 1: easy stuff, you know, regardless as he that's some of
- 34:12Speaker 1: the development he needs. M I gotta see some. This
- 34:17Speaker 1: game is a good opportunity to test that. Like you mentioned,
- 34:20Speaker 1: you if you go underneath, the only problem you run
- 34:22Speaker 1: into is that a lot of these corners for LSU
- 34:25Speaker 1: wants you to go underneath. They're gonna bait it. They're
- 34:27Speaker 1: gonna jump them. Yeah, a slant and go is gonna
- 34:30Speaker 1: be open. A hitching go didn't go whatever, They're gonna
- 34:35Speaker 1: be open because these corners will sit and hope to
- 34:39Speaker 1: jump it. I mean they kind of did that against Florida.
- 34:41Speaker 1: If you go back and watch that game, he got
- 34:42Speaker 1: five picks on DJ Lagway. There's a lot of now
- 34:47Speaker 1: go attack, We're gonna have to exploit them. We're gonna
- 34:51Speaker 1: we're gonna have to go We're gonna have to go
- 34:54Speaker 1: deep a few times. And I need John to put
- 34:56Speaker 1: some air under that thing. And that's what I think.
- 34:58Speaker 1: I don't understand the passes to Satania be having air,
- 35:03Speaker 1: the one the Burks don't. I don't understand that.
- 35:06Speaker 2: Yeah, just libb it.
- 35:10Speaker 1: He was doing a great job of it a little
- 35:13Speaker 1: bit earlier in the season. The Auburn game was probably
- 35:15Speaker 1: my favorite one. The one he threw on the side
- 35:17Speaker 1: and Satanna caught that and when he went in for
- 35:19Speaker 1: basically the touchdown that drive, I was like, oh man,
- 35:22Speaker 1: that's a beautiful one. The Michigan game, he threw that
- 35:24Speaker 1: to Dion Burks right, just the balls to do that
- 35:28Speaker 1: from the end zone. Yeah, Like, why can't we put
- 35:34Speaker 1: more air on it like that? What it feels like
- 35:36Speaker 1: he's not planning and releasing properly all the time. Yeah,
- 35:41Speaker 1: he's got to get it a little bit better at
- 35:44Speaker 1: layer in the football.
- 35:45Speaker 2: We've talked about that consistently over the course of the year,
- 35:48Speaker 2: even dating back to when he was operating at the
- 35:51Speaker 2: best version of himself in an Oklahoma uniform, and kind
- 35:54Speaker 2: of to your point, that kind of takes me to
- 35:55Speaker 2: the next thing. He will probably have to do that
- 36:02Speaker 2: because of the Oklahoma running back situation. So I'm curious
- 36:09Speaker 2: to see if you saw this similarly. I kind of
- 36:11Speaker 2: went I didn't go on a rant. I went on
- 36:15Speaker 2: like a in depth clarification point on our incident analysis video. Yes,
- 36:22Speaker 2: I think what really frustrated me out of the Missouri
- 36:26Speaker 2: game was there was this narrative going around that Oklahoma
- 36:30Speaker 2: can't run the football or they refuse to run the football,
- 36:34Speaker 2: but they have no identity because they didn't run the football,
- 36:38Speaker 2: And I get it, but I also think that it like,
- 36:41Speaker 2: if you're keeping track, we all know they went in
- 36:47Speaker 2: the last week's game with Xavier Robinson and almost everyone
- 36:52Speaker 2: down the list extremely hampered by injury, except for except
- 36:59Speaker 2: for a certain individual who shall not be named. Fair point,
- 37:08Speaker 2: I was very passionate about this after the Missouri game.
- 37:12Speaker 2: I don't know how you can have those conversations while
- 37:16Speaker 2: willingly knowing they went to that into that game last
- 37:20Speaker 2: week clearly saying we have got to protect these running backs.
- 37:25Speaker 2: They had to They clearly had Xavier Robinson on a
- 37:30Speaker 2: pitch count, clearly, and I mean the guy played on
- 37:33Speaker 2: a sprain knee. And by the way, that guy playing
- 37:38Speaker 2: on a sprain knee and they didn't sub him. What
- 37:43Speaker 2: does that tell you about the rest of the state
- 37:45Speaker 2: of the running back room. It's not great. I mean,
- 37:49Speaker 2: they're scrambling for health and answers. I am We're not
- 37:56Speaker 2: too far removed from them rushing for what nearly two
- 38:02Speaker 2: hundred yards against Tennessee. Yep, between John going eighty x
- 38:08Speaker 2: going above one hundred. I they got guys. They got
- 38:13Speaker 2: guys who can do it. But in that Missouri game,
- 38:16Speaker 2: they they targeted Dion Burks eight times, they had John
- 38:22Speaker 2: run the ball eighteen times. They threw the ball to
- 38:26Speaker 2: the first level of the field, and they willingly spread
- 38:30Speaker 2: the football around. When they told you, hey, we have
- 38:33Speaker 2: to spread it a little bit because our running back
- 38:35Speaker 2: situation and stuff, they literally said that in the press conference.
- 38:41Speaker 2: That is another thing for me with the John the
- 38:43Speaker 2: teer stuff you're talking about, where hey, he may have
- 38:45Speaker 2: to go over the top. Because if I were LSU's defense,
- 38:49Speaker 2: I'm damn sure not letting a hurt running back room
- 38:53Speaker 2: beat me like it's just gonna have to be John yep.
- 38:58Speaker 1: And so.
- 39:00Speaker 2: I not only think that's what's to be expected on
- 39:02Speaker 2: the other side until further notice. Unless Xavier Robinson's sprain
- 39:08Speaker 2: knee has just suddenly completely healed and the health bar
- 39:11Speaker 2: is back to one hundred percent, I mean, it could
- 39:16Speaker 2: be more of the same. So if they're forced to
- 39:19Speaker 2: protect those backs again, like John's gonna have to respond,
- 39:23Speaker 2: and he needs to have his best response yet, in
- 39:26Speaker 2: my opinion.
- 39:28Speaker 1: I agree. Now BV mentioned in the press or that
- 39:31Speaker 1: for the first time, Taylor Tatum is actually healthy and available.
- 39:38Speaker 1: Now I heard that he practices hard. He's one of
- 39:40Speaker 1: those people that practice is hard. He's a consistent guy.
- 39:43Speaker 1: He shows up and now he's at the point where
- 39:46Speaker 1: he's healthy enough to play.
- 39:47Speaker 2: So if that's the case, the expectation.
- 39:50Speaker 1: Is we'll see him this week hopefully. But like you mentioned,
- 39:56Speaker 1: the fact that they're playing XCROB on a sprain knee,
- 39:58Speaker 1: Tory Blaylock on probably every injury under he's wearing tearimeter
- 40:03Speaker 1: on NCAA twenty five is just probably completely red on
- 40:06Speaker 1: everybody part. That's how to up Tory Playlock is right now,
- 40:11Speaker 1: and if that's the case. Like you said, that's why
- 40:14Speaker 1: you're seeing so much Materire running. And he's also banged up,
- 40:18Speaker 1: so everybody's banged up in college football run a time
- 40:21Speaker 1: of the year. Totally get it when I use it
- 40:22Speaker 1: as an excuse for pointing out the fact that there's
- 40:25Speaker 1: a reason why they're doing it the offense the way
- 40:27Speaker 1: they're doing it. As BV mentioned, they have dialogue throughout
- 40:30Speaker 1: the entire game, and it truly appears that not only
- 40:34Speaker 1: are they on a pitch count with x rob as
- 40:37Speaker 1: far as handouts go, but it feels like they're just
- 40:40Speaker 1: on an overall pitch count on how they want the
- 40:42Speaker 1: offense to operate right now. They're like, look, just go
- 40:44Speaker 1: out there and get be healthy, and win the game.
- 40:47Speaker 1: We're not trying to blow anybody out. We're not trying
- 40:49Speaker 1: to just go you know, boss of the Wall against anyone.
- 40:53Speaker 1: We just want you to go out there and win.
- 40:56Speaker 1: And if scoring twenty points wins you the game, who
- 41:00Speaker 1: am I to complain? Who's the among us will be
- 41:03Speaker 1: upset about that? If you can hold a team, because
- 41:07Speaker 1: we've held everybody under thirty but Ole Miss. We've held
- 41:13Speaker 1: everyone but Ole Miss and Tennessee under twenty five. And
- 41:21Speaker 1: besides that, you've held everyone but four teams Texas, Old Miss, Tennessee,
- 41:26Speaker 1: Alabama under twenty points. That's actually pretty darn good. Seven
- 41:34Speaker 1: games under ten points, under twenty points. Don't think I
- 41:40Speaker 1: can complain about that whatsoever. So now the question is, well,
- 41:48Speaker 1: I mean, the expectation is we should do it again
- 41:50Speaker 1: in this game because it's really hard to talk about
- 41:52Speaker 1: LSU's offense and actually saying thing truly nice because they
- 41:55Speaker 1: are struggling. They're bad.
- 41:57Speaker 2: Yeah, they're bad.
- 41:59Speaker 1: They're bad, they're not very bad situation right now, and
- 42:02Speaker 1: they're just waiting on their new coast to show up.
- 42:04Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin changed the game for them.
- 42:05Speaker 2: But.
- 42:07Speaker 1: Offensively, can't Taylor Tatum change things for this offense if healthy? Yeah,
- 42:15Speaker 1: we won't see Javonte Barnes as he's red shirting and
- 42:17Speaker 1: he's gonna transfer out afterwards. But I do expect to
- 42:20Speaker 1: see Javontay Barnes in the playoffs. Not gonna lie since
- 42:23Speaker 1: that doesn't count. Why not play him in that game?
- 42:27Speaker 1: Those games, that's when he needs to put together his
- 42:29Speaker 1: tape in preparation for the portal. Plus he's a really
- 42:34Speaker 1: good pass blocker kind of like having him out there
- 42:36Speaker 1: hitting people in the mouth when they blitz it. Can
- 42:42Speaker 1: Taylor Tatum though, step up and take most of the load.
- 42:46Speaker 1: I guess That's where I'm sitting at too. Like you said,
- 42:48Speaker 1: the run game, LSU's entire scheme needs to be We
- 42:52Speaker 1: ain't gonna let them run on us with a whole
- 42:54Speaker 1: bunch of injured dudes. Yeah, you gotta beat us with
- 42:57Speaker 1: passing it. Yeah, stack the box, make them throw non.
- 43:02Speaker 2: Stop, especially with that secondary yep.
- 43:07Speaker 1: Secondary that they have. They can do that. They're built
- 43:10Speaker 1: to be able to do that.
- 43:10Speaker 2: So I don't know. Another thing too that, like we
- 43:17Speaker 2: got to talk about for sure on all of this
- 43:20Speaker 2: is the availability reports on the Oklahoma side of this. Oh,
- 43:26Speaker 2: Jake Michael is probably not gonna play.
- 43:31Speaker 1: What is going on with that that came out of nowhere?
- 43:34Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I personally am coming at it from an
- 43:41Speaker 2: angle of like it really, in my opinion, is somewhat
- 43:44Speaker 2: of a health privacy thing. I don't want to make
- 43:49Speaker 2: it seem like way more serious than it is. He
- 43:53Speaker 2: is dealing with an unexpected health complication. He is being
- 43:58Speaker 2: taken care of by, you know, the proper medical attention.
- 44:03Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be okay. I'm I'm praying for him.
- 44:06Speaker 2: If you're the praying type out there, encourage you to
- 44:08Speaker 2: do the same. I think it's gonna be all right.
- 44:12Speaker 2: I like, don't don't. I don't want it to sound
- 44:14Speaker 2: like I'm saying there's a life threatening issue, but just
- 44:20Speaker 2: came up, something came up unexpected, and he's being tended to.
- 44:26Speaker 2: That being said, I'd probably be a little bit shocked
- 44:30Speaker 2: if he plays on Saturday.
- 44:34Speaker 1: So that sounds like a shift on the line. Then,
- 44:39Speaker 1: so you're next up there for center?
- 44:42Speaker 2: What most likely?
- 44:42Speaker 1: Because Troy Everett's out, He's probably not gonna be able
- 44:45Speaker 1: to play until quote unquote playoffs. If he was to
- 44:49Speaker 1: make a return, which is why he keeps showing up
- 44:51Speaker 1: on a vaiabit of report. If he keeps showing up,
- 44:53Speaker 1: that means at some point he can play. That means
- 44:59Speaker 1: what way, Wo's probably to move to center, probably put
- 45:02Speaker 1: back to guard and bring in Derek Simmons right there,
- 45:05Speaker 1: right tackle.
- 45:08Speaker 2: I mean, I think Derek Simmons took his right tackle
- 45:11Speaker 2: job back over the last couple of games since they
- 45:15Speaker 2: did the rotation stuff.
- 45:17Speaker 1: Yeah, because played with six naps against Missouri.
- 45:22Speaker 2: I can't remember exactly, but I mean Simmons got in
- 45:25Speaker 2: the game against Alabama and then he basically took over
- 45:28Speaker 2: a right tackle against Missouri. I think that you'll probably
- 45:33Speaker 2: see Simmons out there again at right tackle. I think
- 45:36Speaker 2: Fabeci kicks over to center, and I have been told
- 45:39Speaker 2: that Fabecci has been practicing at center, so probably right, Yeah,
- 45:47Speaker 2: he's worked at He's worked at center in practices, I
- 45:51Speaker 2: mean in the season before the season. Now, we haven't
- 45:55Speaker 2: like really had to see it all that much. I
- 45:58Speaker 2: think he's maybe done it once this year if I
- 46:00Speaker 2: remember correctly, in game. I can't remember which one that was,
- 46:06Speaker 2: but we'll have to go back and look, but probably
- 46:13Speaker 2: foe Ja. And that's the other thing too, is it's
- 46:15Speaker 2: like Keith o Zeida questionable. I feel like he maybe
- 46:20Speaker 2: plays a role here, but he might be out for
- 46:24Speaker 2: the weekend, so we're gonna see. That's the other thing
- 46:29Speaker 2: too with this offense is like we talk about Taylor Tatum,
- 46:32Speaker 2: we talk about John Mattier, we talk about throwing versus
- 46:35Speaker 2: running the ball. You're gonna have more shuffling on the
- 46:38Speaker 2: offensive line. How do you respond? How does that impact
- 46:42Speaker 2: your approach? That's another layer to this game. And again
- 46:47Speaker 2: especially when you're facing a defense with talent at every
- 46:50Speaker 2: level like LSU's.
- 46:52Speaker 1: Yes, they've got talent everywhere, and their front seven is
- 46:56Speaker 1: still solid. Like once they get Harold Perkins. Actually he's
- 47:00Speaker 1: a problem now. They got him play a nickel, which
- 47:04Speaker 1: you know he's playing. He's trying to prove that. You
- 47:06Speaker 1: know that he can play in space, but you can
- 47:09Speaker 1: exploit him in coverage. He's just not very good. It's
- 47:12Speaker 1: not his that's not his bag. But whenever he's he
- 47:15Speaker 1: can tackle in space. Well, he is good at coming
- 47:19Speaker 1: off the edge and causing pressure. I mean, will will
- 47:22Speaker 1: with Weeks, I don't expect him to play much if
- 47:25Speaker 1: he's got to coming off a broken ankle, a fractured ankle.
- 47:28Speaker 1: They're not gonna play him a lot. They're not gonna
- 47:30Speaker 1: quote unquote jeopardize him. That makes no sense. So there's
- 47:34Speaker 1: a there's a lot of thing components that can be
- 47:37Speaker 1: beneficial to Oklahoma in this You just got to play
- 47:39Speaker 1: it smart. But that does worry me now that we've
- 47:43Speaker 1: got another adjustment on the offensive line to do. Just
- 47:47Speaker 1: to love Jane Jackson's back, questionable, Yeah, because it is
- 47:51Speaker 1: down down to questionable. He's been out. That's a good development.
- 48:00Speaker 2: Taylor and Jacob Sexon have been upgraded to doubtful doubtful.
- 48:04Speaker 1: They've moved off the off list and they're down to doubtful,
- 48:08Speaker 1: which that's a plus you could use. Because Taylor has
- 48:11Speaker 1: any played this season, which is I didn't thought that
- 48:15Speaker 1: was kind of wild when I was like, wow, he
- 48:17Speaker 1: actually has not taken a snap.
- 48:19Speaker 2: Let's not get over the skis. It's not like those
- 48:20Speaker 2: two are gonna be playing this weekend, at least it
- 48:22Speaker 2: doesn't look.
- 48:23Speaker 1: Like it, or they may play them late if it
- 48:27Speaker 1: gets down to it, right, you know, you you can
- 48:32Speaker 1: tell them out there it's a blowout.
- 48:34Speaker 2: We gotta get to run in the locker room and
- 48:36Speaker 2: get your pads and come back out.
- 48:38Speaker 1: Get them the field boys, get you a couple of
- 48:41Speaker 1: snap see in. No, I don't expect either one of
- 48:44Speaker 1: those two to play this year. We will see what
- 48:47Speaker 1: it looks like going into next but yeah, that availability
- 48:51Speaker 1: just does not make me feel super comfortable right now. Then,
- 48:58Speaker 1: of course, Reggie Powers is out the half because of
- 49:00Speaker 1: the targeting. Did you did you think that was targeting?
- 49:06Speaker 2: I mean, I think by the rule it was targeting.
- 49:09Speaker 2: Do I think it should have been targeting. Probably not
- 49:11Speaker 2: like I.
- 49:14Speaker 1: Yeah, when I watched it and I watched the multiple angles,
- 49:16Speaker 1: you could see he was going with his hands like this,
- 49:18Speaker 1: and he immediately did that to push off. But the
- 49:23Speaker 1: fact that the head dropped enough to connect right there
- 49:26Speaker 1: at the crown for a second, Yeah, it's textbook targeting.
- 49:30Speaker 1: I thought. I did think it was a soft call.
- 49:32Speaker 2: But the way we talked about it up in the
- 49:35Speaker 2: press box was he was not targeting, but the rule
- 49:39Speaker 2: book is gonna says gonna say he was. Yeah, you
- 49:43Speaker 2: know what I mean, he was not targeting, but they're
- 49:46Speaker 2: gonna look at the verbiage of the call and be like, oh, well,
- 49:50Speaker 2: that's that's what he did. It's like, well, you know,
- 49:55Speaker 2: let's talk football and not flax that. I don't know.
- 49:59Speaker 2: I hate it for him. I don't think it should
- 50:01Speaker 2: have been I thought it was a soft call too.
- 50:03Speaker 1: Yeah, that was kind of soft. But the good thing
- 50:05Speaker 1: though for Oklahoma is we ain't gonna need a whole
- 50:10Speaker 1: bunch of Reggie Powers help in the beginning of the game. Luckily,
- 50:16Speaker 1: you should be able to handle this offense, which has
- 50:19Speaker 1: explosive players. But Van Buren has not been very good,
- 50:25Speaker 1: Like like my LSU guys like this dude in practice
- 50:30Speaker 1: because Brian Kelly did allow a lot of media in practice,
- 50:33Speaker 1: so they got to to see a lot of stuff
- 50:34Speaker 1: and he was like, dude, couldn't handle throwing it against
- 50:39Speaker 1: the air. It just was not good. And you saw
- 50:44Speaker 1: it against Western Kentucky and some of the others, You're like,
- 50:46Speaker 1: this is a kind of stinky and it's funny. We
- 50:49Speaker 1: wanted him, well, we knew it. We knew he was
- 50:51Speaker 1: raw and knew that he was gonna be someone to
- 50:59Speaker 1: groom and grow. But you know, he was someone that's
- 51:02Speaker 1: gonna be developed better way to say it, Yeah, but
- 51:06Speaker 1: he don't look like it. He needs another year in
- 51:09Speaker 1: the oven. He's played two years.
- 51:13Speaker 2: Genuine question. Is this a race to double digits? I mean,
- 51:18Speaker 2: oh yeah, Like is it first one to ten or more?
- 51:21Speaker 1: First one to ten wins? That is so bad?
- 51:30Speaker 2: I mean they score thirteen on Western Kentucky, right, so like.
- 51:36Speaker 1: They may not score it all against us if we
- 51:38Speaker 1: if we play our cards right, they may not score
- 51:39Speaker 1: a single point.
- 51:41Speaker 2: I mean, well, and again I don't want to dismiss them, like,
- 51:45Speaker 2: you know, it sucks because it feels like the show
- 51:48Speaker 2: energy right now is down relative to our normal C,
- 51:52Speaker 2: K and J dynamics, but the obvious lies in front
- 51:55Speaker 2: of us right It's like, this setting kind of sucks, frustrating.
- 52:02Speaker 1: It's frustrating how we were hoping this game was gonna
- 52:05Speaker 1: be a good one, bring them into town. But at
- 52:08Speaker 1: the same time, it is a revenge game for us,
- 52:10Speaker 1: so we can probably get our first win ever against LSU,
- 52:13Speaker 1: but it's gonna be against a really crappy version. So yeah,
- 52:16Speaker 1: you're right, it does feel sombers just kind of meh,
- 52:20Speaker 1: but it really is because the opponent's hard top about
- 52:22Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna fix that. Ck.
- 52:26Speaker 2: Let's get excited.
- 52:27Speaker 1: Let's stop recruiting real quick, because we got a commitment
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- 54:01Speaker 2: But I digress.
- 54:02Speaker 1: Jonathan hadn't flipped? Dog, Yeah, I am sorry that it's
- 54:09Speaker 1: it could be a little hyperbole, but I see glimpses
- 54:12Speaker 1: of Adrian Peterson out of him or in high school.
- 54:16Speaker 1: I see it physical breakaway speed when he needs to
- 54:23Speaker 1: hiss the holes and he's gone. Is he gonna be
- 54:26Speaker 1: as good as all day in college? Extremely doubted? High
- 54:31Speaker 1: school though, kid reminds me a lot. How'd you feel
- 54:35Speaker 1: about Jonathan hadn't because I he broke me. I'm gonna
- 54:39Speaker 1: be honest. When he flipped, he broke me. I said,
- 54:44Speaker 1: you know what, I don't even care about future players
- 54:46Speaker 1: until we've signed his current class. I don't even want
- 54:48Speaker 1: to talk about him. I don't want to talk about
- 54:50Speaker 1: twenty seven. I won't talk about twenty eight. I want
- 54:53Speaker 1: to talk about twenty six is until the twenty five sign.
- 54:56Speaker 1: He broke me. Yeah, but now he's back and I'm ecstatic. Dog,
- 54:59Speaker 1: How do you feel about this hatt and piece? Because
- 55:00Speaker 1: I think it's a really good pickup, excellent Pickup Elite Pickup.
- 55:06Speaker 2: There was a a Sooner's Illustrated subscriber who compared him
- 55:13Speaker 2: to Mike Gaddis. If that catches your attention for me,
- 55:21Speaker 2: I find it sometimes dangerous to make comparisons at the
- 55:27Speaker 2: running back position, given the nature of that position, right,
- 55:32Speaker 2: and how individual tracks can look so differently at a
- 55:37Speaker 2: physically taxing spot. But like, this is genuinely one of
- 55:43Speaker 2: my favorite running backs in the senior class, and he
- 55:46Speaker 2: has been that for a long time. The story I
- 55:53Speaker 2: always like to tell as I was out at one
- 55:56Speaker 2: of Oklahoma's summer camps in Norman, and I was watching
- 56:02Speaker 2: a young running back recruit go through bags and positional drills.
- 56:10Speaker 2: And after watching that for about ten to fifteen minutes,
- 56:14Speaker 2: they gave the guys a water break and I walked
- 56:17Speaker 2: up to this kid and I said, hey, man, I'm
- 56:19Speaker 2: calling what is your name? Because I thought he looked
- 56:22Speaker 2: that good just in positional work at camp. He said
- 56:26Speaker 2: his name was Jonathan Hatton, Junior, and about an hour
- 56:29Speaker 2: later he got to report his offer from Oklahoma. So, like,
- 56:34Speaker 2: this guy has always kind of had that in factor
- 56:36Speaker 2: and he's been on OU's radar basically since the beginning
- 56:41Speaker 2: and I mean again, like people forget this was the
- 56:45Speaker 2: very first twenty twenty sixth recruit to ever commit to Oklahoma.
- 56:51Speaker 2: He's always had out on the back of his mind.
- 56:56Speaker 2: They offered him early at that summer camp in person,
- 57:00Speaker 2: they had him in on a visit. He looked at
- 57:02Speaker 2: his family and said, I want to commit. His parents
- 57:05Speaker 2: were dumbfounded in that moment. They were shocked, just like
- 57:10Speaker 2: everybody else because they didn't know that was going to
- 57:12Speaker 2: be a thing. But he pledged Okahoma very early in
- 57:16Speaker 2: the process. And I think that he's always viewed, oh
- 57:19Speaker 2: you as home. But obviously there has been a lot
- 57:25Speaker 2: of uncertainty over the last couple of years, and I
- 57:28Speaker 2: think that played a primary role in him decommitting and
- 57:32Speaker 2: then going to Texas A and M. But the way
- 57:34Speaker 2: that this season has played out and some of the
- 57:37Speaker 2: questions that have been answered, Jonathan Hatten Junior just said, hey, man, like,
- 57:42Speaker 2: I think it's time to go back. I think it's
- 57:43Speaker 2: time to go to the place I wanted to be
- 57:44Speaker 2: at from the start. And I mean, Oklahoma fans should
- 57:49Speaker 2: be ecstatic because I am a huge fan of this guy.
- 57:52Speaker 2: Top one hundred recruit in the country, Top five running
- 57:56Speaker 2: back across the cycle, legitimate six foot and a half,
- 58:00Speaker 2: six foot one ish. I think he's gonna play it
- 58:03Speaker 2: north of two hundred and twenty pounds. He's having the
- 58:06Speaker 2: best year of his high school career right now too,
- 58:09Speaker 2: and just a true north south build up ahead of steam.
- 58:16Speaker 2: Want to say. He runs ten to six and one
- 58:17Speaker 2: hundred meter at his size, very little wasted movement, but
- 58:22Speaker 2: can shed tackles and get out and go. I this
- 58:27Speaker 2: Jen again, one of my favorite running backs. I was
- 58:30Speaker 2: with you when he decommitted. I was like, man, that's
- 58:32Speaker 2: a tough blow for you and to get him back.
- 58:35Speaker 2: It's it's a very cool, full circle moment for an
- 58:38Speaker 2: elite talent in Oklahoma.
- 58:40Speaker 1: Yeah, Alahoma did that. Yeah, one of those of Yeah
- 58:45Speaker 1: you need that type of win to feel good about yourself.
- 58:52Speaker 2: Period.
- 58:56Speaker 1: Yeah, you needed that. And Hattan is one, Like I said,
- 59:00Speaker 1: when I watch his tape, I'm just like, goodness, he
- 59:04Speaker 1: is good.
- 59:06Speaker 2: Yeah, man, he.
- 59:07Speaker 1: Has the in fact, he's looking at him, he has
- 59:09Speaker 1: the infactor. I just can't so.
- 59:17Speaker 2: I don't.
- 59:18Speaker 1: I don't want to know how to he'll be. I
- 59:19Speaker 1: guess it. Just the winning was like, look, we're winning,
- 59:23Speaker 1: we can do more with you come back, and he's
- 59:25Speaker 1: just like okay.
- 59:27Speaker 2: I mean, look, I think that when he committed in
- 59:33Speaker 2: sex A and M it made a lot of sense
- 59:36Speaker 2: for several reasons. But Oklahoma just kept the communication up
- 59:43Speaker 2: behind the scenes steadily. I think that there were a
- 59:47Speaker 2: lot of moments where it was like this probably ends
- 59:50Speaker 2: up amounting to nothing, but why not just keep things
- 59:54Speaker 2: in the mix. And then when you again, he kind
- 59:59Speaker 2: of dress a lot of concerns and you show some
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: stability and you show opportunity too. I mean, I think
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: this guy legitimately feels like he's gonna step in at
- 1:00:12Speaker 2: a place that he cares about and have a chance
- 1:00:15Speaker 2: to play. And I think he would be right in
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: that line of thinking. And I think he has a
- 1:00:21Speaker 2: skill set and the mentality to have what it takes
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: to provide that type of impact. And so I think
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: Oklahoma leaned into that too. I think that conversations of
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: the last couple of months really hammered home like, hey man,
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: you see what we're doing, You see what we're building,
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: you see what running backs are capable of within this offense.
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: A guy like Xavier Robinson maybe a little bit similar
- 1:00:46Speaker 2: to you. There's success to be had. There is opportunity
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: at a place that you called home once, go ahead
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: and run it back. And so I like, we talked
- 1:00:58Speaker 2: about this a lot in the offseason. If if Oklahoma
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: just took care of business on the field, things could
- 1:01:05Speaker 2: heat up quite really fast. And I think Hatton is
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: just one layer to these several stakes in the fire
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: that they've had over the last few months and will
- 1:01:15Speaker 2: continue to have over the next couple of weeks.
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: So then you get a flip of Markel fod the
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: next day. Now I know they've been on four for
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: a while, and then he committed to SMU because SMU
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: was like an influx of massive cash. Everybody named Mama
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: was going. There a lot of Sooner players that they're
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: going for in the Dallas area. They lost out to SMU. Yep,
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: like a good amount of them, and so you are
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: hoping that Oklahoma will be able to try to pull
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: some of them in that metroplex. With the way they've
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: been battling with SMU's like, okay, starting to get unlikely.
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: But then Ford decides to flip around.
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: I like him because he's another hard hitting safety, but
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: he honestly, he kind of reminds me a little bit
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: of the way Jacobi Johnson played in high school.
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: Because he plays both sides.
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: Of the ball. He has very good a good eye football.
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: He can get at the high point, and then when
- 1:02:19Speaker 1: he's on defense, not only deflecting passes, he likes to
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: hit people. Plus he'll run the receiver's route for them.
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: That to me was very impressive in watching his tape.
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: That's two flips in two days. K Now I know that.
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: I mean, now, I know We've got a few more
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: irons in the fire that should be visiting go to
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: as Sooner is illustrated. They have a whole list of
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: people pulling up this weekend, some candidates that we are
- 1:02:47Speaker 1: looking to flip. We pull this off and made the playoffs,
- 1:02:54Speaker 1: thinking we're gonna have more flips.
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: Feels like I I said it on our site today.
- 1:03:03Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know that it's hyperbole to say
- 1:03:07Speaker 2: that out of this visitor weekend coming up this weekend.
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: If Oklahoma just takes care of business, wins the game
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: goes to college fotball playoff and capitalize on a big
- 1:03:20Speaker 2: official visit weekend in twenty six and they've got some
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: high priority targets coming in from twenty twenty seven. They
- 1:03:29Speaker 2: could get five plus commits out of this visitor list.
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: I really believe that, and I think there are a
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: few more out there to be had. I mean, they
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: intentionally loaded up this visitor weekend right like they knew,
- 1:03:48Speaker 2: they knew what could be gained out of this game.
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: And I think that they've got Jonas MoU y'all the
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: offensive tackle. They've got Noah Bbi the interior offensive lineman
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: committed to Tulane. They've got my league Franklin the defensive
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: lineman coming in like yeah, man, like they got a
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: shot to pull off some more flips, adds more COMMITSM
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: Whether these guys are you know, maybe a name or
- 1:04:20Speaker 2: two floating out there that everyone keeps asking about, right,
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: and so we'll see. I I guess for you, where
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: did the eyes go? Which recruit has your attention the most?
- 1:04:35Speaker 2: Going down the stretch here?
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: The one has got me is steel Jad Pettit. I've
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: been watching him for so long. It was him and
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: I was a me line the other wide receiver.
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: Those were the two that really.
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: Had my eyes. Now that one we're out of. But
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: Pettit seems to be starting to see those predictions come
- 1:04:53Speaker 1: in for but it's a wait and see in Wisconsin.
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: I mean, things over there is not very good. It's
- 1:04:59Speaker 1: a pretty bunch of dumpster fire. I that's the one
- 1:05:08Speaker 1: that I'm intrigued the most by because he's another additional
- 1:05:12Speaker 1: big body receiver that could really be a playmaker in
- 1:05:18Speaker 1: this room. Because I mean, you get him, that's another
- 1:05:20Speaker 1: six to four guy to go with. Carry on who's
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: six to six. Many choice who's six' Four Jamichael carter's
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: legitimately six two sixty. Three, yep you're you're adding that
- 1:05:32Speaker 1: to that, room and you're adding a lot of bigger
- 1:05:34Speaker 1: body dudes that could be it essentially playmakers going. Forward
- 1:05:42Speaker 1: can you close? Though, YEAH i guess that's the.
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: Question so you AND i were talking about this a
- 1:05:50Speaker 2: little bit at there is a world where, they this Being,
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: oklahoma potentially go out and Get Jonas moody odd offensive,
- 1:06:01Speaker 2: Tackle Noah bbe along the interior offensive, Line dame but
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: Thirst as a linebacker who will Visit nebraska this, weekend
- 1:06:15Speaker 2: Uh Malik franklin along the defensive. Line four really really good.
- 1:06:23Speaker 2: Players and yet if they still if they added all
- 1:06:30Speaker 2: four of those guys and they don't Get Jadan. PETTITT
- 1:06:33Speaker 2: i think there will be a large contingent Of oklahoma
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: fans who have a sour taste in their. Mouth. Yep
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: AND i can't blame. Them. Now if they were to
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: miss On Jadan pettitt and get those four other, Players
- 1:06:45Speaker 2: i'd tell you this is one hell of a. Class
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: But Jadon pettit alone kind of feels like the cherry on.
- 1:06:54Speaker 2: Top they're so desperately craving for so many. REASONS i,
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: mean dominant football, player the necessary presence at. Receiver it's
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: talking about this with one of my buddies in our,
- 1:07:09Speaker 2: company our scouting team at the, top was, like, hey,
- 1:07:13Speaker 2: Man pettit looks so damn. Good let's make him a
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: top one hundred. Player like he's he's that caliber of
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: talent and he's just everything about him Screams oklahoma needs this.
- 1:07:24Speaker 2: GUY i think that because he's such a fit To
- 1:07:31Speaker 2: pettit is such a just nice, kid a, genuine authentic human.
- 1:07:36Speaker 2: BEING i really do believe we've been put in a
- 1:07:39Speaker 2: situation where the guy is just having a hard time telling. Somebody,
- 1:07:42Speaker 2: NOW i think that's where we're. At does that mean
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: we're legitimately gonna have to wait until signing day On
- 1:07:48Speaker 2: december third to see who he actually ends up saying no.
- 1:07:51Speaker 2: To MAYBE i don't, know so, yeah MAN i the
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: next few days have a chance to be wild for,
- 1:08:01Speaker 2: them especially in twenty Six AND i mean they just
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: Added markel for today that Had Jonathan Aten junior a
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: couple of days. Ago it's, like on, paper this should
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: all be, outstanding and yet it's like everyone is on
- 1:08:13Speaker 2: the same. Page but what About jaden And Pat it's
- 1:08:17Speaker 2: it's kind of funny when you think about.
- 1:08:18Speaker 1: It that's. True he's become he's become that he's become
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: The fudge of The Hot Fudge sunday for. Everybody he's
- 1:08:26Speaker 1: the most important part of. That you can't have Hot
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: Fudge sunday without the hot. Fudge and it feels like
- 1:08:30Speaker 1: he's that dude for this class Of you can't have
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: this elite class without having this one elite player because
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: it's the one player.
- 1:08:35Speaker 2: With he's THE facussi of the. Class it feels, like, yeah,
- 1:08:39Speaker 2: YEAH i mean it it's great by you because it's
- 1:08:41Speaker 2: LIKE i love ice. CREAM i love ice cream, period
- 1:08:44Speaker 2: but a Hot Fudge sunday without Hot fudge is ice,
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: cream and it's, like why did you give me a
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: hot Fudge?
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: Sunday just why why did you tell me it was
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: gonna be hot Foot. Sunday if there's no hot fudge.
- 1:08:54Speaker 1: There if you gonna throw nuts on the side of
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: some vanilla ice, cream just say it's vanilla ice cream with.
- 1:08:58Speaker 2: Nuts it's.
- 1:08:58Speaker 1: Okay i'm fine with that little. Caramel it's, Cool but
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: don't lie to me and say it's gonna be hot.
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: Fudged but that's what it feels like with him because
- 1:09:06Speaker 1: he's he's he's what's gotten so many people excited over
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: the last few, Months like when he committed To, wisconsin
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: so many people were just, like oh my, god.
- 1:09:14Speaker 2: Fire the, staff they don't know what they're, doing blah blah.
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: Blah i'm just, like be. Patient it's probably something. Happening
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: and here we, Are.
- 1:09:25Speaker 2: Oklahoma's hoping the hot fudge is tucked in the back
- 1:09:27Speaker 2: of the. Refrigerator they just had a hard time finding,
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: it you, Know.
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Yes and that is the. Hope and if
- 1:09:36Speaker 1: it works out, properly we'll land him and we'll be
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: excited about. That so recruiting's gonna heat up. Early signing
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: day is the third.
- 1:09:45Speaker 2: Right, Yeah AND i hate. IT i, mean it sucks.
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: Early it's so, early, dude This we're.
- 1:09:52Speaker 2: Gonna wrap THE lsu game and Then i'm gonna have
- 1:09:55Speaker 2: to be, like, oh season's. Over i'm. Tired but that was.
- 1:09:59Speaker 2: Awesome and then it's, like hey, man you have to
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: write twenty six stories about every single. Signee it's like, awesome.
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: Yep, yep, awesome because it's not gonna stop because we're
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: at what twenty two right?
- 1:10:10Speaker 2: Now twenty three, yeah.
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: And we're about To the expectation is adding more and
- 1:10:16Speaker 1: if that's the, case.
- 1:10:19Speaker 2: They could be up to twenty six to twenty seven
- 1:10:22Speaker 2: by start of next. Week they because you gotta Think
- 1:10:28Speaker 2: noah Bb jonas movie out In My, League, Franklin dame Of,
- 1:10:33Speaker 2: Thirst jadan. Pettittt so if they're at twenty three, currently
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: that's a lot of work for.
- 1:10:43Speaker 1: You.
- 1:10:43Speaker 2: Man that's that's almost.
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: Yeah it could be. Thirty, yeah twenty. Three now you
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: could be getting getting tapping on. THIRTY i wonder why
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: that takes it to big class kind of.
- 1:10:56Speaker 2: CURIOUS i got asked that today in the Via peachat
- 1:11:00Speaker 2: and it's, LIKE i think that they see an opportunity
- 1:11:06Speaker 2: because they'll potentially have a lot of guys coming back
- 1:11:09Speaker 2: for next. Year mm. Hm they see an opportunity to
- 1:11:14Speaker 2: go and add, affordable, developmental, promising high seiling high school
- 1:11:22Speaker 2: recruits and build long term depth at a better rate
- 1:11:31Speaker 2: for lack of better term than going out in the
- 1:11:34Speaker 2: portal and putting an outrageous number of dollars cents on
- 1:11:39Speaker 2: a on a player who is maybe just a. Depth,
- 1:11:43Speaker 2: yeah and SO i think it's the right approach to take.
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: Personally so another, words you're telling me not an announcement,
- 1:11:53Speaker 2: Anybody so don't take it this.
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: Way but What colin is basically pointing out is when
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: we go to the portal this, year which we will
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: say everybody else, does we're.
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: Gonna go for.
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: Dudes we're not going for, depth not for going for additional.
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: Bodies i'm going for guys that better be able to.
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: Play and we just pray that we don't run into
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: any more.
- 1:12:11Speaker 2: DUTs i, mean like we, were we were sitting out
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: oppressed the other. Day we were going through the roster
- 1:12:19Speaker 2: and it's, like, dude they got a chance to. Return
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: damn near everybody on this football. Team there's a.
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: CHANCE i have a feeling of, defensively we'll bring back,
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: Everybody but what four? Says five? People five people Our,
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: Mason Marvin, Jones, Junior Grayson, Halton Dominic, williams And Kendall. Daniels,
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: well Then dobey's also probably gonna hit the. Portal so
- 1:12:45Speaker 1: that's six. Dudes it's most likely that will be back be.
- 1:12:49Speaker 2: GONE i think it's you GOT rsj as well in. There, YES,
- 1:12:55Speaker 2: RJ i.
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: FORGOT i don't go for some, reason never go for
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: that far.
- 1:12:58Speaker 2: Back you're.
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: RIGHT rsj is on.
- 1:12:59Speaker 2: There AND i think that the one guy you're keeping
- 1:13:03Speaker 2: an eye on, too is Does Kip lewis go to
- 1:13:05Speaker 2: THE nfl draft or?
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: Not?
- 1:13:06Speaker 2: Yep and then outside of, that like you, hear you
- 1:13:14Speaker 2: hear rumors or. Whatever it's like they've got a chance
- 1:13:17Speaker 2: to retain almost everybody else and they may have an
- 1:13:20Speaker 2: opportunity to Retain Kip lewis. Too so if they're really
- 1:13:26Speaker 2: breaking it, down if you were potentially to Lose Marvin, Jones,
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: Junior Dominic, Williams Grayson, Halton Kennel, Daniels Robert, Spears, jennings.
- 1:13:40Speaker 1: It's not bad if you can retain majority of your
- 1:13:43Speaker 1: defense still most of your your rotational pieces on the
- 1:13:45Speaker 1: defensive line is still be, there so you'll Have, Wine
- 1:13:48Speaker 1: you'll still have A koyer out Of bire and then
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: you'll still Have stone And. Jackson, yeah and your linebacker
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: if you keep both your, linebackers oh, god keep all.
- 1:13:59Speaker 2: Three your linebackers With On, heineke maybe four With sammy
- 1:14:03Speaker 2: and With.
- 1:14:03Speaker 1: Sego, yep all four of, Them they all four should
- 1:14:07Speaker 1: be back as the anticipation and in your Corners eli
- 1:14:11Speaker 1: And courtland both, yeah, developing and you got young players
- 1:14:15Speaker 1: right behind him rated to get. In jacoby's giving you
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: something now he joked About. GENTRY i Don't i'm wondering
- 1:14:22Speaker 1: what happened to. Him he's been dealing with the show to.
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: Stuff but does he come back and? Play does he
- 1:14:26Speaker 1: become a? Coach but, yeah, defensively you're, right you'll have
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: so many. Comeback offensively is with a bigger question lies
- 1:14:35Speaker 1: because offensively you're losing what two linemen.
- 1:14:39Speaker 2: You're losing And Derek simmons you're Losing.
- 1:14:46Speaker 1: Troy ever to be gone because he's the Same.
- 1:14:50Speaker 2: Jaron cannick, yep Uhs lewis. Yep Deon Burt berts and
- 1:15:04Speaker 2: that's pretty much. It that's.
- 1:15:06Speaker 1: It, Yeah so Oh jay not since he technically has
- 1:15:12Speaker 1: to count And Javonte, Barnes yeah right, Right Will, Huggins
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: Will huggins man this top production. Wise, yeah that exactly.
- 1:15:27Speaker 2: Exactly but, like, yeah you see What i'm, Saying like
- 1:15:30Speaker 2: they got a ton of guys potentially coming back for next. Year,
- 1:15:34Speaker 2: now you got to retain. Them you gotta do all,
- 1:15:35Speaker 2: that you, know all, that.
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: Which is what gets. Costly retention is just as expensive as.
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: Acquisition so, right they're pay dudes that produce before they
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: pay dues that ain't produced for him.
- 1:15:46Speaker 2: Yet but maybe that's why you take a ton of
- 1:15:48Speaker 2: high school bodies because they're. Affordable that is.
- 1:15:53Speaker 1: True, yeah that's a fair.
- 1:15:57Speaker 2: POINT i think they're kind of telling you they think
- 1:16:00Speaker 2: they're gonna have a shot to bring a lot of people.
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: Back, yeah that's what it feels like now now That
- 1:16:05Speaker 1: i'm seeing that there's been a so much heavier investment,
- 1:16:07Speaker 1: because like you pointed, out last year's class only at. Eighteen,
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: yeah and you spend a lot of your money in
- 1:16:13Speaker 1: the portal getting people this, year you're not doing. That
- 1:16:17Speaker 1: you're you're bringing back a lot of your dudes for
- 1:16:22Speaker 1: a big run in twenty. Six and if your, line
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: which will return majority of the, players those that have
- 1:16:27Speaker 1: played a lot of. Snaps, yeah you got a chance
- 1:16:31Speaker 1: at a really big run because your schedule is gonna
- 1:16:33Speaker 1: be a lot lighter in, comparison a lot of new,
- 1:16:35Speaker 1: coaches a lot of new staffs that you'll be going up,
- 1:16:38Speaker 1: against potential petitioner run on the, YEAR i could see.
- 1:16:45Speaker 1: It gotta go win this, weekend, though gotta win this weekend.
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: Again the only thing we care about right now is
- 1:16:55Speaker 1: what the heck are you doing this? Weekend so we'll
- 1:16:58Speaker 1: wrap up with. That thank y'all for joining. Us go
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- 1:17:10Speaker 1: we appreciate you always on here and Talking.
- 1:17:13Speaker 2: Bob Happy thanksgiving to all of you and. Yours safe
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- 1:17:31Speaker 2: all of you out, there AND i will SAY i
- 1:17:34Speaker 2: apologize for the somewhat sleepy nature of today's. Show it
- 1:17:38Speaker 2: is Late wednesday. Night we are both stressed and prepping
- 1:17:44Speaker 2: for the, holidays and it's the kind of a flatliner
- 1:17:47Speaker 2: of a football. Game even though there's collegeotball playoff implications
- 1:17:51Speaker 2: on the, line it's a weird. SETTING i apologize for
- 1:17:54Speaker 2: maybe the energy, tonight but hopefully you guys know it
- 1:17:57Speaker 2: comes from a place of we're ready for tomorrow and
- 1:18:01Speaker 2: then we're ready For.
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