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Best of the Bus: Dale Earnhardt Jr. Is A CFB25 SICKO + The Cost To Get A Car Into The Daytona 500 · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: Fellas. Yeah, we're here, We are here. We did it.
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  Speaker 1: We just did the reveal of the bus. The bus
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  Speaker 1: looks fantastic. Little backstory in that it was obviously wrapped
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  Speaker 1: before and then we had some guys coming come in
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  Speaker 1: shot out with customs. They came in and they were
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  Speaker 1: kind of give us, like, hey this fifty to fifty.
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  Speaker 1: When we started to take this thing off, it could
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  Speaker 1: just ruin the entire paint. So sing it for the
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  Speaker 1: first time. It's pretty pristine. I don't know what they
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  Speaker 1: ate out there. Has got a little wear and tear.
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  Speaker 2: That's all right, but kind of like it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a little character. It's nice. Man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, bus looks great. It's good to be back. Thanks
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  Speaker 2: for having me back. I'm excited about y'all's new partnership
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  Speaker 2: with bud Light. I've worked with Anheuser Bush for years.
• 0:37
  Speaker 2: Still still got a relationship with them. Here the die
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  Speaker 2: ass car and your butt heavy though. But yeah, so
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: we did we call them blue coats, coats, Yeah, yeah, coats,
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  Speaker 2: red coat coats and red coats. But the but heavy
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  Speaker 2: yeah so, but I enjoy uh, I enjoy plenty of
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  Speaker 2: butt lights in my lifetime. Yeah, so it's cool. You
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  Speaker 2: guys got that relationship. So glad that that's kind of
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  Speaker 2: what has allowed you to kind of get back to
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  Speaker 2: your identity and bring the bus back and all that.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, man, it makes you.
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  Speaker 3: Coming out too, Like, yeah, I was telling when you
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  Speaker 3: were over here taking the tuessie, he came in and
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  Speaker 3: he had all these gifts. I'm like, yeah, you're like
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  Speaker 3: the best guests, Like you're flying in for the boys
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  Speaker 3: you're coming with.
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  Speaker 1: Very rarely do guests come and they bring gifts. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: us giving out stuff. Yeah, but yeah, well I was
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  Speaker 1: like really running over here take my little Afternoon Tuessie,
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  Speaker 1: and you were like pulling up and he had like
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  Speaker 1: what multiple helmets in your hand, a bunch of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, he's bringing some cool stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think it was gonna be for us. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: these helmets weren't. The helmets weren't. But I got these
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  Speaker 1: dope there's dope coozie. You said your dad made these.
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  Speaker 2: So I so I remade my dad's kozy from nineteen
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  Speaker 2: eighty one and back in eighty one that was a
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  Speaker 2: koozy like the foam boat float and the.
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  Speaker 1: Water kind of thing. Thick.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I had a company remake those for me
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  Speaker 2: because I just loved the nostalgia all things earned heart
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  Speaker 2: from back in the day. And and I brought you
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  Speaker 2: some more modern the bud eight coozies that we had made,
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  Speaker 2: just some gifts, some dreams, some some fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I wonder when because we were talking before this
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  Speaker 1: this started. Jack McPherson had a nice little tweet about
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  Speaker 1: the two thousand and four bud Light can, like, when
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  Speaker 1: are we going to bring these back? We need to
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  Speaker 1: talk to bud Light about what does Bust want the
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  Speaker 1: boys have to do to bring back a vintage can. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but just in general, like I feel like the eighties
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  Speaker 1: and nineties, that vintage type type of style needs to
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  Speaker 1: We could come back in some way and we might
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  Speaker 1: be the podcast and you might be the individual as
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  Speaker 1: well to help us get that done. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's I mean, it's recognizable with all those
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  Speaker 2: all the logos. They kind of change and evolve over time.
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  Speaker 2: Some people come in and put a new modern take
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  Speaker 2: on ya on the on bud Light or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: But it is kind of cool. Those cans can become collectors,
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  Speaker 2: you know, bud Light always does this annually where they'll
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  Speaker 2: where I live they do Panthers cans, Carolina Panthers cans,
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  Speaker 2: so it's all black with the panthers and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And they did.
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  Speaker 2: That for Washington one year. I still got like a
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  Speaker 2: case of Washington cans right on them drink. And so
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of cool all the things that they do.
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  Speaker 2: But it would be cool to throw back blood label.
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  Speaker 1: Bring the Frogs back, bringing the Yeah He's back. Like
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  Speaker 1: I feel like if you did a callback a couple
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  Speaker 1: of those commercials, people standing a plot in their living room, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because it let's just get a right a plus.
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  Speaker 2: So back in back when I was working with Bud
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  Speaker 2: Hardcore was two thousand all the way up until eight
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  Speaker 2: and I was at the National Sales convention every year
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  Speaker 2: where they would unveil the commercials before anyone else got
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  Speaker 2: to see them. And Bud and Bud Lights specifically had
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  Speaker 2: the best Super Bowl commercials. You know, you mentioned the
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  Speaker 2: frogs and the lizards, the guys. I mean every year
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  Speaker 2: we would go to these National sales conventions. There would
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  Speaker 2: be probably fifty celebrities. Everybody they were working with was
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  Speaker 2: their singers, bull riders, actors, and we all sat in
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  Speaker 2: the same same spot. There would be five thousand people
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  Speaker 2: in this room, like bottlers and retailers and all their people,
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  Speaker 2: all the Bud people for all of their brands, and
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  Speaker 2: we all sat down and we're like, I can't wait
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  Speaker 2: to the commercial part, right, We're going to watch all
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  Speaker 2: the commercials. And they were great because they were really,
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  Speaker 2: you know, funniest ship. Some of the best commercial Remember
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  Speaker 2: the Bud Bowl, Like the football bottles out there playing
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  Speaker 2: during the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: I had like the Bud Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: Like as a kid, that was cool, ast ship.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I wasn't drink ripping. There was one they
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  Speaker 1: did for the Super Bowl that was like a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of horses playing football and then oh yeah and one
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  Speaker 1: of the guys, one of the cowboys that there's like
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  Speaker 1: that reps and ass. Yeah, nope, I believe it's a zebra.
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  Speaker 1: What a what a commercial.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a I'm a teenager watching a Bud Bowl and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm watching the Super Bowl and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait till the fucking Bud Bowl comes back.
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  Speaker 2: I want to see if bud light winds. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you're like legit, like about end the damn thing.
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  Speaker 1: That's just a gammick, right, Yeah, But It's so when
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  Speaker 1: you first start, when you getting the NASCAR for the
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  Speaker 1: first time, everyone obviously has their presenting sponsor. Yours was Budwiser.
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  Speaker 1: Was that like pretty clear easy to get done? Or
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  Speaker 1: was like were other people trying to get you before? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, I was, I was. I wasn't involved.
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  Speaker 2: I was so young and my dad was doing the
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  Speaker 2: wheeling and dealing in the background, and he The Bud
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  Speaker 2: deal that we did that that that time in two
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  Speaker 2: thousand was ten million a year. It was the biggest
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  Speaker 2: deal that anybody had. They were coming from Hendrick Motorsports,
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  Speaker 2: where they had been for quite a while, and and
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  Speaker 2: so that was pretty unique because Hendrick Motorsports, as I
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  Speaker 2: would drive for them down the road, they're a real
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  Speaker 2: well respected company, and so to kind of pull a
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  Speaker 2: brand like Bud from them to to and that Bud
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  Speaker 2: was taking a chance on me to be good, and
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  Speaker 2: so it was really cool. I remember August Bush rides
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  Speaker 2: into our shop on on with the Clydesdale's and the
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  Speaker 2: and the dog on top of the Bud, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the big wagon and the stage code whatever that thing was,
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  Speaker 2: and they roll into our shop and they he comes down,
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  Speaker 2: hops down August Bush, the guy that owns the company,
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  Speaker 2: shaking my hand, and man, I remember going to the
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  Speaker 2: brewery or the business downtown in Saint Louis and walking
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  Speaker 2: through there and uh, just being amazed to be connected
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  Speaker 2: to such a mass iconic brand back then.
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  Speaker 3: Did you ever get to influence like a decision with
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  Speaker 3: your them sponsoring you something anything creatively?
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  Speaker 2: No, not really, no no no, so.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, bring the vintage cans back now?
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  Speaker 1: The one thing.
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  Speaker 2: So they were funny because uh, they're there. There's some
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  Speaker 2: healthy competition between bud Light and Budweiser and all their
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  Speaker 2: other brands, like they they compete inside the business and
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  Speaker 2: kind of like teammates race racing teammates competing at each other.
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  Speaker 2: But it's healthy, right, raising everybody up. And you don't
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  Speaker 2: want to get be by your teammate. You want to
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  Speaker 2: be the best teammate, right, And so there's a little
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  Speaker 2: healthy competition inside the business with bud Light and Budweiser,
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  Speaker 2: and so I would I went to them one time.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know about that. I went to them one time.
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  Speaker 2: I said, you know, it'd be cool. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: what if I drove a bud Light car one race?
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  Speaker 2: I always drive the bud car every week. What if
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  Speaker 2: I did a bud Light car. I think I'd be cool.
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  Speaker 2: And they're like, hell no, You're never running a bud bike.
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  Speaker 1: Shut it down immediately. Yeah, they were like, no, it
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  Speaker 1: does sound crazy. I think of it as just like
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  Speaker 1: bud head.
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  Speaker 2: Together right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We we met with them in New Orleans during the
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I think I said something about but bud
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  Speaker 1: Wiser and bud Light to one of the guys and
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  Speaker 1: they kind of looked at me like, we're not going
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  Speaker 1: to do that now.
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  Speaker 2: And there the other thing that the other thing I
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  Speaker 2: learned from them that was really I've hung onto this.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know right or wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I thought this was, Hey, they're successful, so I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: believe in this idea. Is they would They rarely wanted
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  Speaker 2: to change the car. The way the car looked. They
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  Speaker 2: loved the continuity and that you could look out in
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  Speaker 2: the field from the grand stands and immediately see that
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  Speaker 2: car and it looked the same all the time. And
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  Speaker 2: they they love that continuity the car being the same.
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  Speaker 2: Whereas today, you know there's there's different sponsors, different your
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  Speaker 2: you know, your favorite drivers driving a different looking car
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  Speaker 2: every week.
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  Speaker 1: And it's it's tough, uh to.
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  Speaker 2: Sort of follow along and and there's no uh, there's
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  Speaker 2: no equity built up in a in a in a
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  Speaker 2: low a look of a car, right uh. But man,
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  Speaker 2: when I drove Budwiser, like you can show fans this
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  Speaker 2: car and they're like right away that that triggers their
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  Speaker 2: nostalgia and they're like, oh, man, that was my car
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  Speaker 2: because I ran that car and it looked like that
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  Speaker 2: for five six, seven years and we never changed it.
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  Speaker 2: They just we would bring them all kinds of ideas
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  Speaker 2: and we did some one off stuff with baseball and
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  Speaker 2: other people here. You know, they had an all Star
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  Speaker 2: car and they did they did some music stuff with
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  Speaker 2: different bands, but for the most part, like they didn't
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  Speaker 2: want to change the look.
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  Speaker 1: Of the car too much.
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  Speaker 2: I adhered, like I kind of like believe in that
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  Speaker 2: idea of building equity and continuity and in a in
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  Speaker 2: a brand that and the way it looks like. I
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  Speaker 2: don't mind modernizing the logo, but it's got to have
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  Speaker 2: it's got to still look like the original, right Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And just like you're saying, like if a casual fan
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  Speaker 1: goes and watches a NASCAR race and they're able to
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  Speaker 1: point out a vehicle that they've seen to get seen before.
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  Speaker 1: That's like, I feel like they're more part of it. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I know they feel like they know a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more about the race now everything. But if you're changing
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  Speaker 1: colors and when we're at your shop, yeah, it seemed
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  Speaker 1: like you guys had different lot.
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  Speaker 2: That's the way modern NASCAR today. Everybody runs a different
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  Speaker 2: looking car because you need so many partners, so many sponsors.
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  Speaker 2: You can't have like one sponsor that can fund the
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  Speaker 2: entire season, so we have to run a different sponsor
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  Speaker 2: almost every other week. But like if you look back
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  Speaker 2: in the history, everybody remembers the black three car. Dad
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  Speaker 2: had the same sponsor for many years. Jeff Gordon in
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  Speaker 2: the Rainbow twenty four. You know you remember those cars
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  Speaker 2: because they were in that same car every week every
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  Speaker 2: year for multiple years, and they built, they built equity
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  Speaker 2: and value in that. They still lean into that today,
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: so we do too. Like I ran this car, this
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  Speaker 2: little Ley made stock car. I ran it at a
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: place called Florence, South Carolina, last November, and man, we
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: unveiled the idea that we were going to do this,
• 9:47
  Speaker 2: and people went eight shit and just ball right into
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: it right, and all the people have started, you know,
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: everybody on social media sharing stories about their experiences of
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: watching you know, the cup version of that car back
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  Speaker 2: in the two thousands run and where they race and
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  Speaker 2: it was really a great experience.
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  Speaker 1: That is awesome. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Did you ever have like in your racing days where
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  Speaker 3: you might have finished like twelfth or middle of the
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  Speaker 3: pack and it felt like a big win?
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So there's this one race I always talk about.
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  Speaker 2: So it's always great to celebrate the wins, obviously, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure y'all had games where maybe the overall outcome
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  Speaker 2: wasn't what you were looking for, but you had There's
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: there's moments, right, maybe it was a sack or an
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: interception or something like that, or or you just had
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  Speaker 2: a great game that nobody's gonna remember, but you Uh.
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  Speaker 2: There was a race at Martinsville, North Carolina or Martinsville,
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  Speaker 2: Virginia probably two thousand and I don't know, four two
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: thousand and five. We start to race, big crash in
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: turn one, I'm in it and tear the right front
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  Speaker 2: off of my car, and the damage the back of
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  Speaker 2: the car there, it is right there on the screen.
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  Speaker 2: So by the time we got the car kind of
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  Speaker 2: repaired and able to get back on the track.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it looked like.
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  Speaker 2: I'm out there getting ready. It's like five laps into
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  Speaker 2: the race. It's a five hundred lap race at this
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  Speaker 2: tiny little bull ring. And I get back out there
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, God, dang, this is gonna be a
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  Speaker 2: long day. A car is wrecked. It's not gonna be competitive.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be in the freaking way all day. This
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  Speaker 2: is gonna suck. We get the running and running along there,
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  Speaker 2: nothing's really happening. But as the run, as the laps
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  Speaker 2: start clicking off, start passing, a few cars, start going
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  Speaker 2: by a few more guys. My car is feeling good.
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: Guys are getting worse, and I'm just charting to both.
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  Speaker 2: I drive through the field all the way up into
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  Speaker 2: the top ten. I'm like, shit, we're good. This is
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  Speaker 2: gonna be This car is great, and yeah, drive up
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  Speaker 2: into the top ten. I spend myself out right here
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: underneath the twelve car, have to go right to the
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: back of the field again, drive right back to the front.
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: Ended up finishing like fifth, fourth or fifth in the race.
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  Speaker 2: I'm in the ship. I'm in the photo as we're
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: coming off term for battling for the wind. I'm there,
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: I'm there right, and you know, I just always I
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  Speaker 2: got a somebody made me a custom die cast of
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: that car. It's like the size of this thing that
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: I have in my collection. I got a little modest
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: collection of custom ship and so somebody made me one
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: of those. And I'm like, this is like my favorite race.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't win because of all the ship that went
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  Speaker 2: wrong and how bad it should have been, but we
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: just didn't stop trying, and the car actually was badass.
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: So the fact that the fender's missing it kept the
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: right front tire cool and allowed the tire to really
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: outperform everyone else who had a tire that had a
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: big fender on it that was in there getting cooked
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: by the brakes and the engine and everything else. And
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: so the fact that my car is out in the
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: wind actually was an advantage over the long course of
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: the day. And that's why the car, I think, actually
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: ended up being really more competitive than it should have been.
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: There's obviously rules and regulations of like how cars is
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: supposed to be set up in all that, but you
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: ever like think, like I wonder if it's were like
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: a terarro wheel kind of like the pants. We talked
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: about that maybe just like hit the wall real quick boys,
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: business pad, you take out certain parts of your path.
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: Michael Bennett used to do that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there is there's a there's an advantage if you
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  Speaker 2: lose the tail piece of the car, NASCAR won't let
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  Speaker 2: you run that. NASCAR makes you come down road and
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: reinstall the tail if the whole tale comes off. So
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: the back bumper, if that that back bumper being on
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  Speaker 2: there creates a lot of drag underneath it. Air comes
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: from under the car and gets into the back bumper.
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  Speaker 2: So if that were to come off, that's kind of
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  Speaker 2: an advantage in some scenarios, and so NASCAR makes you
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  Speaker 2: reinstall that. But we after this happened, I joked with
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  Speaker 2: my teams for the rest of my career like, hey,
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: when we go back to Martinsville, you know if the
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: if the fender falls off, it's okay, Like don't don't
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: you know if there's.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: A reason that bretty nudge, like, hey, the balls are
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: actually not telling you what they do. But if we
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: have a little into the wall, a little weird huh. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Just so when you went back there you're kind of hoping.
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  Speaker 2: No, I just knew, and I there's there was a
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  Speaker 2: picture of a guy named Harry Gant and he won
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  Speaker 2: that race in nineteen eighty one at Martinsville, and he
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: had the right he had damage on the right front
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  Speaker 2: the right fronight front tires exposed. He won that race
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  Speaker 2: again in nineteen ninety one with the right front fender
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  Speaker 2: completely gone.
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  Speaker 1: Same guy.
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  Speaker 2: And then probably a handful of years ago, I think
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  Speaker 2: Martin Tricks Junior or somebody else ran really well with
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  Speaker 2: with a lot of damage some in the right front
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  Speaker 2: tier or the left front, right front tire I think exposed.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: And so I mean it's kind of common knowledge now.
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  Speaker 1: But you can't.
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  Speaker 2: You can't build a car to where the shit would just.
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  Speaker 1: Fall off for you. Ye'll catch you. Yeah, that would
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  Speaker 1: be tough to do that when you have success the
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: way you do there. Like I don't know about you,
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: but like in the football where like a lot of
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: guys are superstitious, some guys lay their stuff out to
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: listen to certain music and stuff like that. Did you
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: have like a game day ritual that you would hit
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: every single every single week or you just got it?
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: You just will pissed, excellency, not after.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: I My superstitions were all the general traditional common knowledge superstitions,
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: like walking under ladders, breaking mirrors, the number thirteen in racing.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: People used to say the color green. That was like
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: a widely hard adhered to superstition, the color green was
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: bad luck. Now, that didn't make any sense to me,
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: because there were green race cars. Money is green, there's green,
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: you know there was there was moments where green didn't
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: seem to bother my luck, right, And so I didn't
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: really buy into that. Peanuts, for some reason, peanuts around
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: the race car. There's people that are old old heads
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: kind of believe peanuts is bad.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, just having peanuts around, Yeah, don't eat, get away
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: from my car doesn't shelter unsheltered. So these are pistachios.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Let them go.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: But that's a bit of an older wise tale. But man,
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: I was one that kind of believed in the like
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: the traditional stuff, and like, yeah, so, what's.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: The weirdest persition you've ever seen from a different driver.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: I think the ones that you hear about, I don't
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: even they're even hard to believe. Is like race car
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: drivers wearing the same pair of underwear every race they
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: got a specific pair of underwear.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: That they have to wear that day. Or yeah, I don't.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: I've heard some kind of strange stuff like that, but
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: nothing too crazy. To be honest with you, I didn't.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: I did. I I was.
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: More worried about, like I don't eat anything, it's gonna
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: suck your stomach up, you know, Or like.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: Have you ever gotten the bubbles, like a bubbly like
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: bubbly gut, bubble gut.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, bubble guts, yes, bubble.
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: Whole day though, so you've had it when you're out
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: there racing.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Let me ship yourself.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: No, I never shipped my pants. Oh yeah, so on the.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Hot days you got bubble guts.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Bro, there's no I mean, you could hold it in,
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: but it's gonna you have a slight release, like let
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: me try to get some air out, but you're like
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: there's no.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Room for I never think I think for like the
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: normal population of people, like you're very aggressive with getting
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: the air out of your butt. There. You you'll take
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: a chance that most people I remember being in the
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: airport with you, I mean like the Bathroomal quick, shut myself,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: you know. I feel like you kind of don't possess
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: the quality of thinking like, oh, poop might come out here.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: There is an art, there is, there's an art to
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: limit there's an art to getting the gas around the poop.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and getting that out. I agree. But when you got.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: So like the ship's coming, you're gonna ship, right, But
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: if you can get the air around the ship, that
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: buys you a little time.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're just Yeah, that's a that.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: That takes the pressure down.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: It's going down. You gotta get some weight off to
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: slow the ship from ad buys you about ten minutes.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, every far, wrapping around the turd almost kind of
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: pushes it back up.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: A little bit.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: It just takes the pressure down.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: That's basic science. That's what you guys are talking about
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: right now. That's hydraulics. Yeah.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: So if you're I was pretty good at just you know,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: making I could fart. If I needed ship, I could
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: probably you know, I can relieve the pressure without shipping
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: my pants, and so I never ship my pants.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, but with bubble guts you hold it in. Yeah.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: I mean the problem is is though, do you I mean,
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: this is funny we're talking about this, but do you
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: know I My problem was is that when the you know, whatever,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: the moment is right, whether you're in a race or
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: you're driving home and you're like, holy shit, I got
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: to get to the toilet.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: It's coming.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Your body knows when you're near that toilet. Isn't that
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: crazy because like you you're like, all right, I made
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: it into the driveway. I'm gonna be fine. And then
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: as soon as you get near the front door, it's
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: like fu no, we got to go now to sprint.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: It's like the time is.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: Now, and you fortunately just get your pants down right
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: in time, like as you just started going in there.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: There's a couple of those situations where you're literally flying
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: by the seat of your pants where you're like unbuckling
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: and kind of like doing this this hip maneuver to
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: jump onto that toilet just in time. You're hitting toilet
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: the same time things are coming to us. Yeah, that's
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: a wild deal.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Your body knows. It's like, hey man, that fool of me.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: You're near a toilet. Yes, happening, I gotta go.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: But pissing yourself, that's steff. So this is the the
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: with pissing yourself? Can I So? Yeah? I basically I
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: want you to explain this. But then I also want
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: to know probably on a percentage on a rink, how many.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: To be clear, not shitting ourselves regularly.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but we do.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Ever, we do pee on ourselves sometimes. This happened to
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: me probably half a dozen times in my career. So you, uh,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: the inside of a race car is a good day
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty degrees one hundred and twenty five,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: On a bad day one hundred.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: And fifty degrees, super hot. So when when you know,
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: you know beforehand, like on a Thursday or Friday, you're like,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: it's fuck man, Sunday race day. It's going to be
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: ninety five degrees. It's gonna be some miserable inside the car.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: And so you start thinking about that and you start hydrating,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: right you're trying to do a little extra hydrating. You
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: get up in the morning, you're drinking water and everything,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: and there's a lot of things that are happening right
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: before you get into the car, driver's intro and a
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: couple other things, handshaking and gripping and grinning. Photos that
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: that are there the roadblocks to pissing, Like you can't
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: get to the john and so you you don't get
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: to use the bathroom and make sure you're good to
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: go before you get in the car. You hop in
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: the car, you buckle up, start your engines.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: You're in.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: You're committed, right, you're gonna drive this thing all pit
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: road and start this race. Then you're like, shit, I
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: gotta pee, and it's I got a three and a
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: half hour drive in this car.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I gotta piss.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: You can't focus if you're holding a pee, you can't
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: like you, you know, your miserable cost comes out. You're
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: like shit, you're you know, sometimes when you're driving in
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: the race green flag, there's enough to focus that it
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: can take your mind off of it, but your you know,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: caution comes out. You're like, fucking, I'm just gonna piss.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: And so it's kind of hard to piss yourself. You
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: over hit it.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like doing it in front of somebody.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you have to be full of relaxed.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Like the minute you try to flex hitting a turn,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: you got a strain a little bit, like it closes up.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: You have to do it under caution. I don't think
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I've ever been able to piss driving in green flag
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: conditions because you're focusing so much and thinking about driving
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: the car, you know, but there's the times that it's happened.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: You just can't get You're not gonna get to the finish,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: You're not gonna you're you're you're gonna pisch yourself. It's
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: gonna happen. You gotta you gotta, you know, accept the
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: situation you're in. It's not a big deal because you're
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: sweating your ass off. It's miserable in there anyways. It's
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: you know, it's already gross. And so when you go,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: the only problem is is so you get done. And
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I always had white suits, right, and so I'm like,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: so I'm thinking, like I got this white suit. I'm like,
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I'm shit's gonna be obvious right when I get out,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: people are gonna look at me and go, damn its
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: fucking pisses himself. And so what I would do is
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: I would I would say, if I had pissed myself,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I figured it out, I got I'd say, hey, bring
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: me an orange gatorade when I get done here. When
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I pull up, when I'm done, I pull up onto
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: the pit road, and I'm gonna get out, bring me
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: an orange gatorade. And I would pour that orange gatorade
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: all over to like blend it in so you couldn't
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: see that is some d high. Yeah, well it's change.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: It changes the color of your clothes. And so I
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: get I'm just you know, I don't want people to
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: go that look dude pissed. Get them, and so so
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: I would kind of blend it in and then I
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: would get out of the car. And then you have
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: to tell the interior guy. There's a guy that's responsible
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: for the interior of the car.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: That's his job. He works on that.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Part of the car all week long and he's got
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: to clean up the interior and then he's got to
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: get it ready for the next race. And so he's
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: he's that's his role, and he's your buddy because he
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: knows everything about what's going on inside that car with you,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: and he knows everything you touch in You and him
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: talk all the time about let's move this knob I
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: can't reach it, or let's put this over here that'll
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: be more comfortable, and hey, man, I need to change
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: my seat. It just don't feel right. And so you
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: and him are are close, good buddies, texting pals, right,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: and you gotta tell him. Man, Hey, man, I pissed
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: the fucking seat. You know you're you're gonna Monday morning.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you're gonna take this seat out and it's
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: gonna smell. I'm sorry. You know you can't. I mean,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: you feel bad. You kind of want to go and
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: and help him get this seat out. Sometimes that's not possible. Yeah,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: he has to pull the there's an insert. The seat
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: has a foam insert that's that's made perfectly for you.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: So he just has to pull that out and then
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: you know, steam it down or hose it or pressure
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: wash it or whatever. But that's tough telling a guy. Look,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta put up with this ship.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, have you ever puked yourself? Never?
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: No, you just you start puking down here.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: So there's some guys actually pretty bad, as I know
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: some guys that have done that. And I can't imagine
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: being so miserable that you're you got a full face
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: helmet on, right, and you may be comprived that that,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, when you got a puke. A lot of
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: these guys are puking during the race while they're they're
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: battling it right, running the eighth place and all of
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: a sudden, I had this one guy that was driving
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: my car and he's racing along and we're having a
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: good day. He's running like seventh or eighth, and it's
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: coming down to the end and he just kind of
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: goes high and loses a couple of spots, and I'm like,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: what the fuck is going on? He was throwing up.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: He just got sick, and he's like push, pushes his
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: helmet up just a little bit, and he's like throwing
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: up all over himself and it was like shredded chicken.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: He'd ate something that just was bad news, and it
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: just was everywhere. When he pulls in after the race,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: it's just everywhere. It's one of the things you know,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: when your kid throws up. It just goes everywhere, and
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: you're like, ah, you know you're the one that's to
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: clean it up. You're looking in there and you're like, god,
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: dang man, that's just it's everywhere. You don't touch anything
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: because it's all over the place. But so that luckily
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: never happened to me because I was specifically like my
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: morning meal. I usually wasn't a breakfast guy, So my
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: meal before race was bread and and and like ham
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: and mustard, and like this is basically as I wouldn't
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: go to you ain't gonna grill me up pieces of.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Bread is bread, and then I'll have the mustard on
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: the side.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: Do like a grilled chicken. I wasn't going to risk
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: you know, eating something that was not cooked properly or
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: just you just even though it was like highly unlikely
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: you were gonna have a problem, I just wouldn't risk it.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: So I eat something very basic and just get something,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: get the foundation in there, and then then go to work.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Like just like rookies being super nervous about their first
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: NASCAR race. Yeah, you're kind of getting in. The elements
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: are kind of getting to you. Just start to get
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: a little dizzy, like, yeah, I got a puke.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The guys with p like guys put before games.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I know guys that Noah Gregson drove for us and
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: he's in a Cup series now. He had a situation
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: or an issue where I think he was holding his
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: breath a lot at the end of these races. And
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: so if you you know, how like if you guys
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: maybe like went a little bit too hard in a
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: sprint or something and you get done and you like
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: your body like sort of has this sort of moment
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: where it's like you fucking overdid it.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: You know, and you get a little sick.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Maybe he would hold his breath I think late in
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: these races and he would win these, you know. He
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: he would win a race, get out, you know, and
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: you get the other thing too. I wonder if this
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: is happening to you all guys in football, but there's
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: no one.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: He's a wild one. So he's a wild man. He's
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: got an attitude about him. He does. He's like a
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: modern day cam Ridgman. He's great.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: We went a sport that you know, in a sport
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: that succeeds on personality.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: He brings a tongue.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: So he would get out of the car and I
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: think he held his breath a little bit in the
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: last few laps after trying to win these races, and
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: then he would get out and expel all of this
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: energy over being excited, and then it would hit him
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: and he would just bend over and throw up right
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: on the frustrate away holding the checkered flag. He's like, yeah,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: look there he is. That's that's after winning a truck
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: race at Martinsville, He's throwing up on the track.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: How do you get to where you're holding your breath
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: at the end of the race, But you're just so focused,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: so you're just like not breathing.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that you because when you go into
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: the corner, you sort of every bom when you go
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: into a turn, you like flex every bomp, every muscle
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: in your body. Like you just you're you're pushing against
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: the seat, You're pushing against the steerwheel. Like if the
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: steering wheel is made of aluminum, man, you would just
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: probably twist that thing right off the steering shaft. And
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: so like every time you go into the corner, your
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: legs are going against the leg braces and you're just
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: every muscle is just flexed all the way and you
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: you you know how like guys uh if you ever
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: go up in uh with the with the Blue Angels
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: or any of those guys, they have those grunning practices
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: when they get into the gay. You do that too,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: not because of the same reason they do, but you
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: just you go in the corner, you're just drying its
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: car and so like you don't breathe for a minute,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: like for a breathe fifteen seconds right then you might
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: breathe down a straight away, then this corner comes again
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: and you hold your breath, and I think that he
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: was probably doing that to an excess. And then he
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: gets out when's the race, gets out and goes yeah,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: you know, and just goes expels all of this excitement
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: and then and then he goes, you know, he just
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: gets sick. I mean, I wonder like if say, take
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: yourself to like, you know, a moment in a game
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: where you're you're playing hard, You're you're you're using your
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: you're you're using all of your energy. Right, you're pushing
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: yourself almost of that limit, you know where that limit
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: is where you can ride all day.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: And you're right there, and then you have a great
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: play that.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: You expelled a little more to get that play to happen, right,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: and you you're like, fucking, I went a little hard there.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: And then you maybe celebrate, you know, and and there's
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: this sort of uh, your body sort of says, fucking
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: calm down, man, you know you're about to throw up?
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Or have you ever had that?
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: I've never had it, but I know guys guys do
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: throw up, Like I.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Mean, when you're exerting all that energy. Yeah, way.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: So even even with workouts, guys would be puke and
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: after like epp or something when you're doing like work capacity.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I never I only threw up. I don't
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: remember ever throwing up in a game. I know what
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: you're talking about though, with like the like exertion of energy.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: For me, it always came like long drives and you
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: think you score and then you're getting hyped with the boys.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: You're celebrating. Then there's a flag or they actually call
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: it back and you do another play and you're like,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, because your your body has a sense of
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: being like okay, it's over. I've the rest right now,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: because you know you have a break coming up. That's perfect,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: and it's like oh no, no, no, you got to go
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: one more more or two more plays, that's perfect. But
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I've never ran into a situation where I threw up.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: We had we played a game in London and I
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: think I think it was twenty sixteen against the Chargers,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: and my left guard got hurt and then Corey Levin
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: shout out the boy who just actually resigned. He didn't
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: think he was playing. So he's having pints in London
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: with the boys that he's he's enjoying London a little bit.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: And I remember, like right when he got in the game,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: we had like an eight nine, ten play drive and
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: we're in the middle of the field and we're in
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: the huddle kind of waiting. I think it was like
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: a TV timeout or an injury timeout or something like that,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: and he just starts puking. I'm sorry, rubbing his back.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Don't be all right, But there's nothing worse than I
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: can't imagine the feeling of being in the middle of
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: a game.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a puker.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I don't. I can't, Like I can. I had one situation.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: I can get shithammered drunk and I feel like I
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: want to throw up, and I know that I will
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: feel better if I do. I had a stomach bug
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: last week and I'm laying on the couch like God,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: if i could just throw up. But I ain't got it.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not like that. I can't do it.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: We had some bad oysters in New Orleans and it
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: was like, I'm laying in bed and I'm thinking the
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: same thought.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: You are on the.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Couch like it, man, I just got to throw up,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: and I'll just sit there and gag myself until I
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: don't think.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: I can't see even trying that.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I've tried to do that back in the day.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I just can't.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: It's got to come out the other end.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you go, that's so you've never you've
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: never puked.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Not many times, like I did get real fucked up
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: one time. And I remember the last time I threw up.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: I remember last time I puked drunk. That's a long
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: time ago.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The drinking. The drinking always gets me. When we
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: do beer Olympics. I can hold myself for a while.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: So once I know that the game's over.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: I'll even tell like, I'm I'll go on a trip
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: with some buddies and I'll tell them, like in the
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: text messagere we leave, I'm like, don't even fucking talk
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: about shots.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: We're not doing.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I got I drink. I drink beer all day.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: I know my thing.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I gotta I got a damn playing right.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Ye know how I know my pace? Yeah, you get up.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: You don't be getting mad.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Don't throw a shot into the middle of the day
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: or you know, eight o'clock at night after we've been
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: going for eight hours. Don't be throwing a shot in
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: there because that that ruins it.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: That's when you've been going for eight hours. I am
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: a villainous friend when you're out because I all start
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: to get a little, a little cooked up. And then
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: when I took put the on switch on. I want
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: to go, Yeah, but I don't want to go alone.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: It's not fun to go alone. You want to bring
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: your boys with you. So I'm definitely the guy that's
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: like I was always buying shots. I'll buy out like
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I'll buy like, hey, let me get twenty of them,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: and I'll just start dishing them out. I don't go
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: to wild. You take it. I know. Will is big
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: on like I got at your buddy and then one
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: two three, like set in the corner. So I've got
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: to stay on Will. I'm watching.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I'm watching, Yeah, I can see, Yeah, somebody, somebody's getting
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: a freaking shot.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: They're getting shots.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: You got to hug my beer so I can spit
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: the shot in the beer. I'd rather chug a full
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: beer than to take that shot. But easily, like there's
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: a couple of SIPs left in the beer, and I'm like,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I'll see it coming. I'll be like, all right, I'm
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: ready to take your shot put.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: It in your Yeah, dude, yeah, the whole the drinking thing.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Eight hours in the boosing with the boys and shots
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: get brought up. It always sounds like a good idea,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: but it always often.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you're drinking, you're not really in the
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: mindset of saying no anymore.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, real maturity is realizing. Like you around eleven PM
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: you stop drinking. Yeah, like you're like, let me try to.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: That's when your brains just be like, hey, there is
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: a tomorrow. Yeah, if you're lucky enough, it's going to
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: be tomorrow. Yeah. That's when it becomes tough. Man. You
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: were talking about like all this stuff that happens before
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: the race. So I won't speak for Will, but for me,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: like the most anxiety I would have before a game
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: would be jogging out. They're doing announcements to do, Hey,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: how we doing. Everyone's kind of wapping up. Guys are
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: in the corner praying. Then all of a sudden, the
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: national anthem happens. And when that national anthem happens, it's like,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: my heart rate is probably higher than it'll be the
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: entire day. Like I'm just thinking about all the possible
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: things that could go wrong, How like, what these plays are,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: these specific ones, So my anxiety is so high. Yeah,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: what's it like for you when it's like you're doing
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: the announcements and then you have to go shake the hands,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: kiss the babies, Like, I can't imagine being social before competition.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Is that a very difficult thing for you? Very difficult? Yeah?
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was our sport. Our sport prides itself on
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: being really accessible, so we get it because it was
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: like a we're boasting on our sport right in our
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: industry and how people can come up and check your hand.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Or say hey to us right before climbing in the car.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: But it was hard mentally, like really listen to a
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: conversation if somebody somebody wanted to tell you a story,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: like hey man, we met as I'm like, yeah, I
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: can't really tune in right now. I'm a sit here,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: wrinkle my forehead, nod.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, I really When people too are like, hey do
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: you remember me?
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Bro, if I'm about to jump in this car right now, race,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: yeah you want me to.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Recall remember that. We have a little awareness, like if
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: you're about to go jump in a car and do
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: five hundred minds.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: It's like any all of the all of the anything happening,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: like in that two hours before the race, before you're
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: climbing in that car, is feels like just a big,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: big obstacle and you cannot wait to get in the
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: car because you can't be reached. You can't be you're
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: you're in there, and you're no one's coming in there
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: with you, right, and you finally like get some and
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: you're sitting on your ass right, so you're like relaxed
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: and you're in your seat that's custom made for you.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Everything feels good and comfortable. And sometimes uh, on them hot.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys ever did this, thinking
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: about the hot days that we had. I would get
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: a water bottle, multiple water bottles, and poke a hole
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: in the end of it, and I would soak my
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: entire suit before I got in the car. And so
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: my thought process was my body sweats to cool me down.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: If I'm already wet, I'm already kind of beating it
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: to the punch and it's still gonna sweat, I'm still
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: gonna burn, you know, loose some water. Uh, But I'm
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: but I'm like it, don't have to rush to do
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: that job or get that started. In the first hour
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: of the race, right, and so if I soak the suit,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: now it's not poor, it's just wet. The whole fucking
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: thing's wet. Like you put it in the bucket ring.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: It wrung it out. Man. I'd get in the car
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: and I'm pretty comfortable even on like a ninety five
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: degree day, And as soon as I get moving any
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: kind of air moving, it's like coat cool and yeah,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: and like it's.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Safe the water bottle and just squirt it all over
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: there before game. Yeah. I feel like when you first
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: start sweating too, Like if you get in the sauna
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: and yeah, that first five minutes when your body begins
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: to swim, you have like an irritation almost like you're
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: like kind of itchy. Yeah, and then finally you get
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: into a good sweat and you feel good. So I
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: like that move. Yeah, I like that moved after that.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: That's so the point you sit in the cars when
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: you feel like relaxed, because for us it's it's the
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: first hit, like, let's get the first play done. Yeah,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: you can get your first play the way then you
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: feel me, let me, let me put my hands on
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: somebody real quick. How we really feel in the day.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: That's when you know what kind of day it's gonna be. Yeah,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: because you get the first couple of plays and it's
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: like you might maybe mess up on the first three
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: plays of the game. Yeah, that's a different that's a
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: different mental warfare right there. Yeah, how long?
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: How where do you remember games where you were like
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: struggling to find yourself to fall into that like comfortable space,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: not like.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: A not like a full game.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I mean I guess for an alignment, it's
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: it feels a little bit. It feels a little bit
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: different because I feel like you're kind of in sync
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: on doing the same thing. Like if you're blocking well,
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: you're blocking well. But I like between like if you
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: have a bad run play or pass play on defense,
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: it wouldn't really be something that it just like consumes
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: you like goes into your play the rest of the day.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: But it's more so like it's that play that's just
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: sitting in your head the entire time you go back
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: to the sidelines. So you might make a play, you're
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: not even really caring that you made a play because
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: you're thinking.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: About what you played before.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for me, the coach is going to coach you
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: when you get in the film room and everything else.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I wish there was a way to like
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: combat that because I feel it goes through every player's
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: mind is like what are the coaches going to say
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: about this on Monday? And you're in the first quarter
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: of the game and you're like, oh, I can't wait
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: to get past that to worry about that. Yeah. For
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: offensive line, it's very like there's a lot of precision
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: that goes into it, especially with pass blocking. So for me,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: it was like feeling out the speed of the individual.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I'd watch them on film like, Okay, this person's faster,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: they're a little slower with their more power. It was
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: really just like feeling them and understanding, Okay, what is
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: what does my temple have to be against this person
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: all day? And that first couple of pass plays, whether
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: it was in the first drive. Luckily hopefully you don't
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: go three and out, but if you have like a
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: good like six seven play drive in the first first
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: series and you're able to kind of put your hands
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: on them and feel it, that's when you feel whole
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: lot better. The tough is that first third down, Like
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: the first thing you brought up. I remember we were
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: playing the Saints just had to be like twenty twenty
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: one or early like twenty twenty or night nineteen. And
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: we played the first series and I overset a guy
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: d big guy from you from University of Texas al Passo,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: but I overset him and that was a first third
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: down of the game, and you just get in your head.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: You're like, and we got off the field after that,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: and you have to think like, Okay, what did I go?
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: What went wrong there? How do I have to fix this?
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Be sure? So I get out a little bit more.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: And then they start saying guessing all of these things
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: you're doing. Yeah, from a technique standpoint, that was always
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: like just the mental game that was going on. Yeah,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: while playing.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: I didn't think about that, Like that's crazy, because like
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: when I'm watching a game and there's a three and out,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: especially the first drive, you're thinking about the Yeah, the
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: the confidence of the quarterback. Okay, damn is this the
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: is this an omen for the rest of the day?
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Can we stop the other team from putting points on
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: the board getting behind? You don't even think about like
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: the individual other individuals on the field and now they're
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: you know, because I can't see the details and go,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: damn my o lineman feeling pretty shitty about that, right
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: because he did this or that and the other. You
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: don't even think about those guys walking off the field
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: and how that affects their their confidence.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's an interesting that's we talked about
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: football obviously the Football podcast, but like eleven guys in
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: the field have to do their job, and especially with
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: the offensive line, like it is such a mental game
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: that goes along with the physicality of it, especially in passport,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: because that's how you get paid. Yeah, the less sacks
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: you get up give up, the more money you make.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: And so like those are like it's like run block
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: for show, pass block for dough. And if you can
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: get in there and really just feel confident earlier in
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: the game, it makes everything so much easier.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: And you just know too, just being a competitor and
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: being an athlete with the NASCAR, like if you take
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: a turn wrong, it's more about like you having the
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: goldfish memory of thinking, all right, this is correctable. I
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: got reached on this run play. I was in a
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: bad position, I took a bad first step. Like you
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: just got to correct the process. And you were like, yeah,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: you know, your preparation to be in a better position.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: But if you end up letting that stuff consume me,
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: like oh, I'm taking these turns wrong, or oh I'm
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: just not playing well today, and then it just kind
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: of consumes your entire being and.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Slowly starts stacking and stack. You have to be able
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: to put.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: You have to be able to put those like plays
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: behind you if you're going to get out of whatever
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: that said run is. Because usually it's just like a
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: technique thing.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: But when you when you're talking about like you don't
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: think about the offensive lineman, like when I watched NASCAR
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: being a casual feeling. I know how to drive a car,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I can drive stick, but I'm not thinking about the
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: technique that you guys are going through. I'm just seeing like, hey,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: they're breaking pretty hard on that turn. It seems like,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: but like, what are you like the small pieces of
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: game that you would like kind of folkus, Like, what
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: were like kind of your mental hurdles you to go through?
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: So yeah, they in the conversation we were having, uh,
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: you're your the car is a really big part of
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: the success or failure that you're going to have that day,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: and so your guys, it's your body, and it's your
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: preparation and all your You go out there, and if
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: you're talented and and you've prey prepared and you know
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: your opponent, you go out there and.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: It's you, right.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: But as a driver, you kind of a lot of
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: times are at the mercy of the ability of the
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: car and if it can do it or not. And
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: you'll go and start those you'll start the race and
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: run like a handful of corners and you're you're judging
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: the car. You're going, Is this damn thing any good?
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Is it going to be better?
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Is it? Is it better than that guy? I'm catching him?
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I'm caught him there. Yeah, Okay, I'm doing this right.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: It's doing that right. And or it's sucking and you're
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: out of control and you don't have the grip and
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: you're losing positions, and guys are on your ass and
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: and and breathing down your neck, and your confidence in
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: the car determines whether you spiral down.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Or continue to do well.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: And so as the in the very first handful of lapse,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: a driver is really just judging this car and and
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: critiquing the car, and okay, if it's not great, We're
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: gonna have a chance to fix it. On the first
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: pit stop.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Pull down pit road.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Tell the crew chief everything you can to get, give
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: him the all the information you can to make so
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: he can make the best choice to fix the car,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: improve the car. He gets a chance to improve it.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: You go back out there, all right, did he fix
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: his some of a bit. We're gonna start the we're
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: gonna get the ring flag and start to continue the race.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Either it's improved and you're happy, Hey, great job man,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: you fucking fix my problem. I'm better, Or he didn't
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: fix it at all. It didn't it didn't make it.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Damn bit of difference, and now you're like doubting the
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: ability of your team and yourself to even make the
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: day better. And sometimes it doesn't get better. Sometimes you
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: just have a car that doesn't do what you want
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: it to do, and you got to drive a son
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: of a gun for three and a half hours and
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: it sucks. But some days you start with a bad car,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: make it better and you have a great day and
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: you're proud of that, and you're proud of your guys,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: and you're some days you start to racing, shit's bad
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: ass and it's awesome all day, but you're always reliant
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: on this car to like do things. Uh, And you
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: could be the best race car driver, smartest guy, know
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: everything you need to know, and if your car sucks,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: you can't overcome that, right, You can't. You can't wield
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: that car in into into being what it can't do.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, with your drivers, have you ever been like in
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: the with the crew on race day? Like are you
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: went from driver to the stuff that you do actually
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: do media stuff. But have you ever experienced, like, you know,
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: taking the chance to be like put yourself in as
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: like a coach, like coach Earnhardt.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: A little bit, not a ton But we ran the
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Daytona five hundred this past February for the first time
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: as a team. So my team that I've owned as
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: an owner runs in basically kind of what is what
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: i'd call the college level, and we have four full
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: time teams and they race on Saturday before the big
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: boys on Sunday. And so that's what we've been doing
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: this February. This past February, we entered a car in
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: the Daytona five hundred, which is the biggest race of
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: the year for the for for NASCAR.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: And.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: I was I had a lot of fun because I
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: was way more plugged in, way more vocal. I was
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: on the radio during the races, talking to the driver,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: and I worked on the car a little bit in
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: the garage, and like it was just I was able
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: to be more I was able to be more hands on.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: And I don't necessarily coach coach the drivers all that much.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: It's hard.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: I was talking to one of my drivers this morning
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: about race coming up this weekend, and I'm sitting there
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: and I'm like trying to explain some things that are
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: unique about this particular racetrack, and you're just wondering, you know,
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: like how much of it they're picking up because they're young.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: And I remember being young, and damn, you could tell
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: me all kinds of awesome freaking information, but I might
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: not be like processing it and taking it in. I
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: just got to go out there and experience it right
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: and see the wrong and the right and adjusting fix
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: and you know, just learn by doing. But so I
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: try to coach, but a lot of times, man, they
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: just look at you with this bewilderment and they're like young,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: and like, yeah, I got I know what you mean
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: and you're like, I'm not sure, you know what I mean,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: And we'll see. But you know, uh, my dad, you know,
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: tried to help me a little bit with some advice
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: and driving and and and it was really good. And
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: so I mean I try to I try to talk
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: to my drivers sometimes, but a lot of times they
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: just got to go out there and and see it
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: and do it.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Server a time where driver comes in and you got
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: to get hard on them.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, you know, there was some there's
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: definitely times when they're they're just not you know, they're
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: they're they're making they're doing things that are detrimental to
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: their success. They're getting frustrated and and and arguing or
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: fighting with other drivers or doing things on the racetrack
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: with the car physically with other drivers. That this that
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: you're hurting yourself, you know, and you're letting your you
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: need to have your focus on trying to win this
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: race today. And I know you pissed at this guy
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: and you want to get his ass back, you know,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: but but that that you can do that, but it's
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: gonna keep you from trying to win the race. Yeah,
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: And so there's some times when they or you know,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: maybe they're not putting in the week week the week work,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: the work, studying, prepping, taking you know, physical care of
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: themselves or things like that. Sometimes you might get on
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: a driver about his focus, like week to week focus,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: because they got a it's competitive, man. The everybody that
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: matters toward this guy's career, every everybody that matters toward
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: a young driver's career is paying attention to the things
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: he's doing. And it's the details and is he studying,
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: is he working out? Is is he got himself in
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: great shape? Is he all fucking around drinking beer with
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: his boys all night long? Every you know, during the week.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Do we know where he is right on a Monday night,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: on a Tuesday night?
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: And so they're the people that matter are paying attention,
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: and that's what I try to tell them, Like, you know,
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: if you're everybody's watching right everything you do so good?
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Right? Ship? Yeah? You know, and you're in your mind,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: what does a week routine look like that You're like, okay,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: that's a good routine. Have you race on Sunday?
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they race on Sunday. They race Saturday or Sunday.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: But they're gonna be in the sim which is basically
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: we don't have practice. We can't We don't have a
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: lot of practice where you actually go to the racetrack
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: and take the car out and run it around. So
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: we have simulators, big giant, multimillion dollar simulators that you
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: climb into and you drive in a in a virtual world.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: And the manufacturers Chevrolet, Toyota four they've spent millions of
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: dollars on these simulators and getting a couple hours in
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: one is very valuable and anytime you get an opportunity
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: to do that, you do it. And there's got you
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: got to volunteer to be in that simulator right to
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: be able to work on your your craft. You can
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: work on the setup of the car, new ideas, run
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: and practice different lines and stuff like that in the
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: simulator and it transfers over into the real world. So
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: on Monday morning, I think you either need to be
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: working out. There's a group of drivers that work out together.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: All of the Chevrolet guys work out together. They have
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: a Chevrolet program where there's this coach that his name's
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Josh Wise, and he he coaches all of the Chevy
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: drivers on They do reaction time games and ship where
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: the light on the wall and they're doing yeah, right,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: they're doing all of that shit.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: And they'll they'll go.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: Jump in the lake and swim across the channel and
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: do ridiculous things. And he never tells them what they're
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: gonna do. You just show up and you might go
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: ride a twenty mile forty mile bike ride.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Just be ready.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: And so that's Mondays. That's every morning, Monday morning, Tuesday morning,
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Wednesday morning. And when you're not working out or doing
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: those things with Josh, they need to be in the simulator.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: They need to be meeting with their crew. They got
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: to meet with the crew chief. Go over last week's race,
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: what went right, what went wrong?
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: What do we learn? Go over there.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, then they'll watch film of last year's race. They'll
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: watch the whole race. They'll say, okay, here's here's here's
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: eight guys that tried eight different strategies and this one
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: worked really well.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: We may do that.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: So you know, get the driver's mind kind of prepared
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: on what kind of strategies might pop up during the race,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: so he knows what you're asking him to do when
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: you're telling him to come down pit road and get
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: tires and fuel. And so then that's several hours on
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: a on a on a Tuesday or Wednesday. There's tons
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: of meetings, and yeah, I mean that that's those are
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: the most important things. And drivers need to be there
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: in person. I know they can zoom in and they can,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: they can kind of they can kind of half asset
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: a little bit. And I know there's places they got
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: to be too. For sponsors, there's requirements for them to
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: be out and doing things. Y'all know what I'm talking
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: about there, but being present and being in person and
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: filling out. We give them note, you know, the teams
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: give them a note the big sheeter one sheeter to
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: fill out after the race, like fill that shit out,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: be be precise, be descriptive. We're gonna lean on that
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: note next time we go back to this racetrack in
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: six months. So give us everything you can give us, right,
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: And so those guys sometimes I remember being half assed
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: about some of that ship, like filling the.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Notes out going.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: I was annoyed the car didn't fucking turn. That's what
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: I wrote down right, Yeah, And I need to tell
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: them like why didn't it turn?
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: What did it feel like?
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: What did I think the problem was with the car?
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: Specifically the details of the of the car's mechanics and
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: try to give them some route to way to solve
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: that problem, right instead of just being frustrated and mad
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: about it?
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Now, do you get?
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: Do you get you kind of come on glued or
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: get the parent voice going on with some of these
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: guys like you, No.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: I don't, No, I don't get too mad. I want
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: to so sometimes, I mean that's the perfect Dale explanation effort,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: like stays calm in every situation. However, I want to, Well,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: you know he's thinking about one guy right now. There's
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: a couple.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: There's a couple of times couple. Well, no, there's a
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: couple of times when they're things didn't go well in
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: the race. And I mean, you know, you could go
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: into the room with with when they're meeting the teams
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: and the drivers and the creachiefs. You could you could
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: go in that room and you could slam your hand
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: be you know, fist down on the table and you know,
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: what the hell are y'all And why did y'all do
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: it that way? Why you don't let let that happen again?
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: They don't.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: People don't. People don't absorb.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: That, right, They don't go and fix it. They go, damn,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: we got to ask you today, you know, or damn
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: dlle was man and and and they don't you gotta
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: you gotta go in there and and say hey, why
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: did you know?
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Why did that go that way?
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: Why did what do we what are we gonna do
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: about that? How are we gonna fix it next time?
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Or I know we all got a plan, right, y'all
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: got a plan right?
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Fix that?
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: Do you ever listen to the right Yeah, Are you
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: ever listening to the driver knowing that you've had your
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: experience on the road and you're listening to a driver
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: and you understand the team, like what they're doing for
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: the car and everything else, to where a driver comes
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: out and they might be complaining about the car, they're
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: saying something in a way to where it's like, hey, bro,
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: you're full of ship right now. You just need to
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: figure it out, you know, X, Y and Z out
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: there on the road. You're trying to blame too many
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: other things there.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: I think the one thing that happens and I know
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: this because I did this, is a lot of times
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: the driver has one line of communication, and that's the
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: crew and the team and the crew chief. Right, And
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: so when you're mad as a driver, you have only
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: one one line of communicator, Like anything you say, right,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: this car is a piece of shit. I'm kick fucking
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: doing all I can out here. I'm busting my ass, y'all.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: This thing drives like shit. All of that information is
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: going directly to the people that actually put that car together,
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: that actually are there to help you, and the ones
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: that will fix it if it gets fixed.
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: A driver gets we get confused because we're in that car.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: We're hot, we feel like we're on an island. I
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: used to say, I felt like a castaway out there,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: like I'm owing bob by myself. Man, y'all don't have
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: an idea what's going on. I'm all out there by
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: myself fighting this damn thing. Y'all don't know what it's like. Yeah,
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, this car's a piece of shit, biggest
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: piece of shit ever drove. That is the worst thing
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: to say. These guys are the ones that built it.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: They brought it to the track. It's their car. You know,
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: you can't call a car a piece of shit to
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: the people it brought the car and fixed it and
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: ready readied it for you and so and you you
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: can't you you can't sit there and rent and cuss
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: about I'm busting my ass. You know, they know already
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: that you're busting your ass. They're watching it. You don't
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: have to tell them. You don't have to, you know.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: And I did this. I did this like I can.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: And so I'll hear a driver today he get, they get.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: They they need you to know, like they're giving it
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: all they got. Man, They're they're suffering, They're they're hemorrhaging confidence,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: uh you know, and they're getting insecure.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: The car's not good.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: They're hemorrhaging all of these things. And they need you
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: to know. They're they're fighting and their artwork. They're trying,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: they're trying to make this car that you built work.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: And they but we have a terrible delivery, and we
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: end up really saying things that are detrimental to that
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: relationship between a driver, crew and cre chieve. And so
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: sometimes I will have to say or or I remember
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: something I did, and I'll hear another driver say it,
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: and I'll go, hey, you got to remember, these guys
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: are here to help. They're the ones that are gonna
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: fix it. They're the ones that you got to You
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: got to talk to them in a way that they
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: want to fix your problem. And if you piss them off,
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: or you talk to them in a negative way and not,
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: you know, not a supportive way. You come down Pitt Road,
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: they're be like, fuck that guy, you know. And so
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: when you're you're coming to get help and service and
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: get your car adjusted, they're gonna be like, le screw
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: me this kid. You know, he's just a pump. And so,
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: you know, I learned that the hard way a few times,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: and I thought, you know, oh, I know these guys
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: well enough to tell them their car is a piece
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: of shit. But it's never a good idea because they.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Was somebody that pulled you aside the beg hey man, yeah,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: how'd you learn that lesson? It was your old Tony.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Junior, my cousin Tony Junior, my my uncle Tony Senior.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: I worked for them on the bud car back in
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: the two thousands, and they told me, they said, hey,
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: you called the car piece of ship. Do that All
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: the guys that build that car and work on that
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: car listening to you, not only the guys that are
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: in the pits. And we're at the racetrack that day. Also,
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: all the guys that are sitting at home. The guy
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: that painted that car is sitting at his house on
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: the couch watching you run, hoping you win, and it's
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: gonna paint your car next week. He's the one that
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: heard you call that car piece of shit. You know,
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: all the mechanics that are not travelers that are sitting
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: at home with their family, you know, all of that information.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: They might not hear it in the moment through the
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: airwaves or through TV, but they're gonna.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Get that information. They're no use working quick.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And so you know, you just don't want to
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: get this reputation within your own team of somebody who
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: just kind of comes unhinged in the toughest moments, and
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: that and that and and his and his and his
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: combative or abrasive right in those moments.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: But it's hard, man.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: You're out you feel like you're out there by yourself,
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: and you feel like that nobody knows how hard this is,
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: but you and you feel like you're you are feeling
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: a sense that you're letting your team down.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: But your reaction in your.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Work are Guys, I'm doing every fucking thing I can
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: with this thing. It won't do anything right. And what
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: they hear is the car sucks.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: I'm fucking I'm not the problem.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: And you're thinking to the audience is watching the race
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: or seeing me not perform as well, it's just.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Blaming. They're not seeing that because the casual fans not
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: thinking about everything that goes in the week before. They're
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: thinking about this driver, that car perfect the top of
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: the line. Yeah, this week, and Dale was relaid down
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: this year getting it done.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: There's what they call YouTube this, but there there's what
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: they call radioactive, and that there's every driver has multiple
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: YouTube clips of themselves that fans have put together of
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: all of their worst moments.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Beautiful.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: There's some good radio active, like, hey, this one's funny.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: This is eight eight minutes of Dale Junior being funny
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: on the radio during the race. And then there's like,
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: you know, here's five minutes of him being a complete
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: asshole to his team, you know, and there's our drivers
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: just completely coming on hands, just screaming curse words into
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: the middle distance over the air. You know, you gotta
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: mash that button because if nobody hears it, it don't
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: you don't get the relief.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's a no talk button. You having the car, you.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: Got a button that you mashed to talk to the team,
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: and like you could be in there mandern hell and
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: you can scream it don't feel good. You gotta mash
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: that button so somebody hears you, you know, and that's
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: the worst thing.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: So when you smash that button, that's the same thing
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: that the fans can make. Right Yeah, so people, if
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: you're talking ship so all YouTube, you consciously went and
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: be like people, someone needs to hear yes right now. Yeah,
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: I gotta get this. I gotta get this, just saying
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: into the abyss, I need somebody, need to hurt somebody's
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: feelings today over the situation.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: And then the TV sometimes takes it and puts it
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: on the actual broadcast, you know, and then now it's there,
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: it's you know, common knowledge, and then you gotta get up.
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: You get it.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: Monday morning, you're like, damn, I shouldn't have said.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: All that day. That The next day, yeah, after you
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: make couple of actions you wish you didn't.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: I said, sorry, Steve, listened to a damn word you
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: said the.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Last there was one.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: There's one clip on there where I I'm driving around
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: and I had had a couple of loose wheels and
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: wheel fell off a wheel. I'm the didn't get the
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: wheel tight and the wheel come off the car and
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: wrecked hardest ship at Atlanta, and that we're We're at
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: another track and I got a loose wheel, and I
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: was so mad. I was like, y'all, like the loose wheel,
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: the wheel comes off at full speed, you just fly
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: into the wall and it's nasty.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: It's a hard rick.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: And I come out of the rate and I was like,
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: if this fucking wheel comes off, I'm hitting every one
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: of y'all in the hand with a hammer. I was like,
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know how to make y'all understand, like this
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: is this is not fun for me to be out
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: here wondering if this wheel is gonna come off or not,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna fly into the fence out of control.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: What is that?
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: Is that?
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Like an inexcusable mistake? Though if going.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: Happens, it happens, it happens rarely. But I was like, y'all, God,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: a damn, you can't leave my wheels loose.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: You can't.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: And that was my only way to like, I thought
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: that was a great analogy, like I'll hit y'all with
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: a hammer.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: And I see that.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: I'll see that clip on.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: You on YouTube and I'm like, God, that's stupid.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: Why do I say that?
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: That was so rude and crazy.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: Necessarily it's a crazy shot to say I'm gonna put
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: them and hit your with a hammer.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet the guy. I mean, imagine the guys
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: standing there, even though I know that they're my guys, right,
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: we're a team, and I know they're probably standing there going, well,
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: fucking asshole, Right, he's gonna hit me with a hammer.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Is there? Is there like with the wheel being loose?
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Is there like like in football there's like basic one
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: on one ship that the coach will get up and
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: be likel one, like, this is basic one on one football.
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: You can't be doing this. Is there something like in
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: the pit crew standpoint, they're like you, this is something
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: so basic that you should not be messing up that
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: they deserve an ass ch gotta fell with gases? What
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: are we doing? I don't know.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: I mean there's everything and everything that I can think
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: of is like it's a human error. It's a it's
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: a possible, it's a possibility.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: At any moment, very forgiving individual.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean some guys are like zero tolerance, But
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: I mean I've lived it long enough to know that
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: there's to have zero tolerance as an expectation is not realistic.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, that's the line.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: If the wheel comes off and I hit the fence
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: real hard, I get to whack every damn one of
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: you with.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: A that is hilarious. Is there is there a specific
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: individual that comes to mind from like your generation of
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: racing that like was as just a known hothead with
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: his pit crew.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean there there's some guys that were pretty
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: Kurt Busch has some good radio actors on YouTube. Kyle
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: uh Harvick was pretty pretty vocal about his team like
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: he demanded he was. He was one of the guys
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: that would would publicly say, hey, our our pit crew
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: has to improve, you know, and he would talk on
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: the radio that would end up on the broadcast about
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: his team needed to be better on pit road. I
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: didn't I wanted to say all those things. Uh you know,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: I have felt those things and wanted to say all
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: the things that they said, but I was I didn't
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: want it to get into the broadcast. I didn't want
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: it to be fighter for the media, right, and so
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: there was something those times I slipped up, But for
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: the most part, I don't have too much radioactive bullshit
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: out there.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: That's funny.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you could change any rule in NASCAR, what
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: would it be?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: Shiit just any rule?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, I I wish we could figure out a
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: new package for the for the Daytona Talladega racetracks. I
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: would probably work on the rules that affect how the
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: cars race at those two places, Daytona and Talladega. So
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: we go to Daytona five hundred and the cars, you know,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: the way the race is sort of the way you
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: watch the races. You guys might not pick up on it,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: but some of the details of how the cars race
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: and why they do some of the things they do
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: are are kind of it's not as great as it
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: used to be, or it could be better than than
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: what it is today. And I think it's and I
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: don't know the answer that specific like technical thing that
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: needs to change, but I would love to be in
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: the process of how we can make the cars do
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: different than they do there, how they race together. But
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: I'll be honest, man, racing right now, the race, I'm
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: no bullshit like, I'm I'm a I'm a I'm a critic.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: Of the sport.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: I I hold them accountable when I believe I know
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: what's right. But things are really good right now. Things
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: are really really good.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: I know. I think that's the direction you're going to go.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: Who's about I gotta be honest. I was.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: We ran Daytona and I was there right we had
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: a car in the race. I was really frustrated with
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: the way the cars raced and the way there's the
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: product on track product. I was frustrated with it. A
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: casual fan would have watched the race and not seen
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: the things that I saw.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: That that bothered me.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: So there's that, but I saw things that I'm like,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: I wish they would fix this ship. Everything from that
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: moment on, all the races that we've ran have been fantastic, spectacular,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: and and we have this sort of very informal poll
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: that goes up on Twitter after every race by a
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: guy named Jeff Gluck's who's a journalist in our sport,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: very respected. It's the good race pole and it's it's
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: a yes or no was it a good race? And
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: there'll be thousands and thousands of people that vote on
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: this pole every week and it's very informal, just for fun.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: But.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: We've been doing this pole for debt for years, and
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: so like a really really good day is a high eighty.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: That's like a really great it's like everybody's fucking happy
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: with that, right, everybody like this. And so our races
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: have all been trending in the really really good high
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: eighty and nineties, and you know, there's rarely a race
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: where people were just like that sucked, you know, fifty
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: fifty to fifty yes, no, And I know that's very rudimentary,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: but I you know, hey, it's it's a it's a
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: small glimpse into the public opinion of something.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: I know, it's you know on X.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: It's not the entire world on X, but it's a
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: it's a it's an idea of people.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: Yes, you might think a man, these are the few
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: things that I would change. I wonder if other people
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: are catching it too. You go and just be like, hey,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: was this a good race? You see like eighty five percent?
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, okay, I loved it. That's I know.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: So the racings, the racing has been highly complimented, and
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: so when that's going sometimes you got to go, hey,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: maybe I don't fucking know what is best all the time. Right,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: If fans are loving what they saw Sunday, maybe maybe
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: you know I'm maybe I am a I am a traditional,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: I am nostalgic. I am like one of those people
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: that go, but go, oh, those are the best, you know,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: the eighties and nineties so so awesome, and you can't
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: you'll you can't never put the toothpaste back in the
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: tube kind of thing. So sometimes I have to kind
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: of check myself with my my nostalgia and my my
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: hanging on to the history of the sports so tightly
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: and go, look, you know it's it's it's more modern,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: it's different than I remember it. But people today, the
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: fans that are tuning in love it.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they love it.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: And so I'm I'm bullish on the sport and think
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: it's uh heading in a really good direction.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: I feel like more men, more men than not, are
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: guilty of that though, like finding the nostalgic piece of
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: it used to be great. Then you go in any genre,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: any category of anything, and someone's gonna have an opinion
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: about back then it was better because of X, Y
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: and Z. A couple of times targeting, bring it back,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: bring it back the old kickoff role. Yeah, that needs
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: to be changed immediately, you know. But anyway, you talked
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: about your your for the first time your team had
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: a car the dayten of five hundred that did the
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: first off. There's a round of applause like that and
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: we kind of did just rush over that.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: Dude.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: That is awesome. Yeah, so congrats on that. Like what
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: is what is the process of being like, Okay, we
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: feel good enough to put a car in the biggest
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: race of the year and all that car.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: So, Traveler Whiskey was a was a brand that came
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: came to us. Yeah, and so I got a shout
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: out travel Whiskey, shout out High Rock Vodka.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: Uh, shout out. Yeah.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: So I they came to us and they were like, hey,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: they came to another program at Hendrick Motorsports and Hinder
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: Then they were like, hey, we kind of want to
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: do the Daytona five hundred. Hendrick's like, hey, we we
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: don't have any room. Were full inventory and so but
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: my my buddy Rick Hendrick, He's like, I know, my
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: friend Dell Junior wants to enter the Daytona five hundred.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: It's a dream of mine to enter a car as
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: an owner in that race once just to go. I
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: wanted to go to the track and do all of
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: the things as an owner and push a car out
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: on the grid and go, there's my car, and there
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: it goes into the race. And so they hooked us
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: up with Traveler and and we took Traveler to today
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Toma and it was really emotional. We weren't locked in.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: So there's cars that have franchises or charters and they
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: are locked into the race. They know going down there
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: hauling their car to the track that they're in. There's
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: a handful of cars in this instance this year, there
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: were eight or nine of us that weren't guaranteed a spot.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: We were gonna have to earn it by either qualifying
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: really well or running well in what's called the duel,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: which is on the duel is two races, and if
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: we do well in the duel, we lock ourselves into
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: the race.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: So in the duel we're running.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: We didn't qualify well, so we couldn't lock ourselves in
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: that way. So now we got the duel to run,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: and we're trying to Okay, we're gonna go out here
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: and we got to beat a couple of guys.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: What's level doesn't go well, this is our life show.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: I was embarrassed.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: So we you in qualifying. All of the industry is
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: on pit road. All the all the engineers, crew chiefs,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: everyone that matters, and everyone that knows anything about the
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: sport is standing on pit road. All the cars are
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: lined up going out qualifying one at a time, and
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: you're with your car and you're pushing your car as
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: it's getting closer and closer to the front of the line,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: and right, you know, you get down to the end
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: and you push your car off, it cranks, the motor
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: pulls away and he's gonna go run his lap, and
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: you stand there and you watch him run his lap,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: and there's a couple of big, giant jumbotrons and you're
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: watching a little bit on the jumbo tron and he
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: comes by and you look at the lap and you're like.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: That ain't fast enough.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: And now you got to walk through that entire group
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: of people that all know that you didn't make the
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: race yet, right, and it's embarrassing. You know, you got
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: the equipment that you think is good enough, and something
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: y'all didn't do right, didn't help the car run the
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: lap time, and so it's it's a bit tough kind
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: of walking back through that whole mob of people towards
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: your garage like we failed and so yeah.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: Like we weren't good enough. Yeah, like everybody looks at
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: us like j S. Yeah, yeah, who knows.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: It might be similar to going into the tunnel at
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: an opposing stadium after a loss, right with the fans
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: going get out of your assholes, you know.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Or just like say you're a middle school or
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: high school and you're going to see if you made
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: the team or not, and all your boys are standing
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: in there and you're like, here's my name on there,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: and it's like you should check it out. Maybe I
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: didn't see it.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what a feeling? Yes, kind of similar, Yeah, you've
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: had that happen. No movie seemed to me. I was like,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: that's crazy if it's happened.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: But you know how like before you even go up
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: to look, it's like, man, what if I don't make it,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: Like I'm gonna feel so stupid.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: You just kind of have an idea of probably what
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: it feels like. Yeah, it just seems okay if you
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: weren't good at sports. What would it be like if
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: I sucked at sports. That's probably a bad feeling.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: So we ended up qualifying in the duel, and we
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: end up racing our way. We're we're in one of
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: the duels.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: There's two. They split the field in half.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: So we're in a duel. There's about twenty some cars
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: in that race. We only have to beat like two guys.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: There's two guys that we just got to finish ahead of.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: And we are in the race and they're out, and
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: so coming coming this duel is like fifty laps and
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: we're coming to two laps to go and we're not in.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: We're we're behind those guys and we're the car. The
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: field's a big blob, all tight together. Within one second,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: there just all together, run around the racetrack through two
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: and three wide, and I'm like, Justin's our driver. I'm like,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: damn it, Justin, you got to figure this out. I
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: don't even know what he's gonna do. I don't know
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: what he could do.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: He's in yourself.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah click, are.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: You saying this to him? No? I thought you hit
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: the button?
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: No, yeah, yeah, And but he just figured he just
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: figured it out, like in the last lap. He just
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: just figured it out, got the run and and and
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: diced around and and when we crossed the finish line,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: we're ahead of the guys that we needed to beat.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: And so that was when it was like almost you know,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: any that was the moment where if you talked, you
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: were gonna have a hard time not crying. You ever
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: been in those moments, like, yeah, I'm not gonna cry
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: as long as I don't have to talk. You know,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: once I start talking about this, it's gonna get hard
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: not to cry, right, And so I got we're doing
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: some media, and I'm like, I know, I got about
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: ten words before my voice is gonna crack. So I
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: was trying to say something like we're in the race, yes,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: and before I started like losing it. But it's just
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: that emotional, and you want, I've lived this. I've lived
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: this sport my whole life. This was a dream of
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: mine and we had finally really this is like on
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: a Friday, I believe, And so that night we're like,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: we get the race on Sunday. We don't have to
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: go home. It was either, you know, the way that
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: race turned out was like we're loading our shit up
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: and we're going home or we're gonna race on Sunday,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: And so it was a big relief. The next couple
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: of days, Man, we're in there looking at our car
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: sitting in the garage and we're massage on it and
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: fixing it and tweaking it and messing with it. I'm
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: on my hands on, I'm working and peddling with the car,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: and we're just we're all proud and getting it right.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: And and then uh yeah, we pushed it out there
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: for quant for for the race on Sunday, went through
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: the whole pre race ceremony and just the pride of
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: being out there and then getting on the pit box
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: and watching your car pull off pit road and you're like,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: we're doing it moments here right there. Yeah, it didn't matter.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: I've always wanted. I told my driver, it sounds like
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: you didn't win nine. Yeah, I told my I think yeah,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: I told yeah.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: I told my driver Justin. I said, I said, hey,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: you know, this is the way I am With Justin.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, man, look I don't let's not
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: worry about Let's not worry about like a top ten,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: top fifteen. That'll be a great day. Let's not even
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: have that conversation. I was like, let's cross the finish
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: line when the checker's waiting. I don't care where we're at.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: I want if we I just want to sit here
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: and watch the race and my car be out there,
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: and we won't have a we won't have it like
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: a high hopes or a or a all darn you know,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: we'll just say, hey, man, if we cross the finish
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: line when the checker flag waves, if our car has
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: finished the race and we ran all the laps, we're blessed.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: And so it's coming down to the last couple of
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: we're making it through all the problems. We had a
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: couple of dust ups and gotten a few scrapes, but
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: we our car, we're patching it up. It's still pretty good.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: And it comes down to the last lap and there's
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: a big wreck on the back straight away and he
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: missed the big wreck and we're standing there like all right,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: where he's coming around, like where are we gonna be?
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: And he crossed the finish line and you look at
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: the score monitor and his name goes book ninth place,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: and you're like, shit, top ten, that's awesome, you know. Yeah,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: not only did we come here and like get in
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: the race. But we ran ninth out of all out
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: of the fifty that tried to run it that came here.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: This we're ninth. Like we're a brand new one race team.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: We're like one race old. We're like we're like brand new.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Every time your team has been in the Daytona
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: five hundred, you guys have been top ten. Yeah. How
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: many of the programs can say, what do you think
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: when when Dale's giving the little speech of Justin, you
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: think Justin's probably.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 5: Like just.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: Sounds like he's Full's an older driver like myself, and
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: but he me and him both get nervous easy like
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: we we and so I can tell like, I need
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: to talk this guy down a little bit. He's nervous
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: as ship. He was so nervous, and he told me,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: he told me like he told me He's like, dude,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: I was terrified in this moment and this moment, I
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: never been that nervous in my life. And I'm We've
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: raced for championships. We won championships in the Xfinity Series
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: last year, and we've raced together for over a decade.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: He's drove for our team at junior or Sports for
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: a long time, won a lot of races, and he's
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like, He's like, dude, I was so nervous. There's
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: so much pressure, so much responsibility, being the driver of
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: your car for the Daytona five hundred for the first time.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: He was like, it was awful, and so I knew that.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: Like in that moment, I was like, Hey, no, let's
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: not even worry about where we're gonna run. Let's not
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: even set a goal or an expectation and worry about
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: being pleased or upset. Let's just say, hey, cross the
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: finish line, check your flag. Let's feel good about that.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: And and that's it. I don't I don't want anything else.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: I wanted him to know, like, I don't want anything else.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: You go out there, you have your own expectations, that's you,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: But you don't worry about me. Don't feel like everybody
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: here in the pits is going, hey, fucker right, come on, Justin,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: when you' you gonna pull the trick, let go.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: You know, Hey, that's a hell of a speech. That's
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: at speech. I just wanted to let him off the hook.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: That's a fire speech. Yeah, No, Justin, he's been racing
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: for you for so long has he ever wrote raced
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: the d before A long time ago? Yeah, okay, I
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: mean that's gotta be what a feeling man. And if him,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: I mean that I bet receiving. I pictured that speech
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: as him. He's already in the car in my head,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: not yet, but no, I'm just telling you where my head.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: Moments ago, it's like they're about to start the race
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: and before he tails off, you're giving him Mike this.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: It was literally right before he climbed in, and I
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: was like, just don't worry you just go out there
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: and do you.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not I have zero expectation, but I do want
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: you to finish. So don't so like, don't get wrecked,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: don't get wrecked early, don't don't wreck out right.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: And there was that one, uh last little part of
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: the race where there's.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: A big, big, big crash and he weaved through.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: Really other than that, it was pretty smooth. Man. It's
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: a couple of dust up, couple dust couple of close wrecked,
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: couple close mentioned dust ups a couple of times. I
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: kind of want to pry a little bit more.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: There was just some wrecks that happened where you had
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: to kind of knife through and and maybe you got
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: dinged up a little bit on the corner of the car,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: got beat up a little bit, but it was still
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: in relatively good shape.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: When we finished the top ten. That's awesome. We'll take it.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: That paid good. I bet yes, that is. This is
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: this whisty company sticking on.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: Well, we we only had plans to run that one race.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: That was it. They called sense.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: They're excited and happy with everything that happened.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: We'll see what happens.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: It's a dicey thing, so there's some we had a
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: little damage to fix, but we did. We fixed it.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: It's a it's a little bit of a diicer thing.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: Because me and my wife started the High Rock Vodka
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: right and that's our we have equity in it, and
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: we're and Traveler came on to Travers like, hey, we
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: want to help you realize this dream. So I had
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: to call my friends at High Rock Vodka and say, hey, y'all,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: mind if I do this thing with this whiskey. And
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: they're like, well, it's not really a vodka, so it's
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: not competing directly. And they're like, we don't want to
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: get in your way. We don't want to get in
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: the way of you realizing this dream, this is really
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: how this is only gonna It's only gonna happen because
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: you know, the traveler came in with the with the
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: check that it was gonna take. It's gonna take a
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: lot of money to go to Daytona, and so they
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: high rock, high rock folks were good, Yeah, to let
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: me do that.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: We can blip it if you want. But how much
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: does it cost? You get into the detail.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: To raising the Daytona five hundred. You're gonna need three
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: quarters of a million.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: Dollars, Okay, all right, three quarters of a million dollars,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: all right minimum? You get that math? Yep, we want
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: to say it out loud.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we can just leave it, you know, by guns,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: by guns, Yeah.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: No doubt.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: Having the Earnhart last name, you're obviously involved with a
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: lot of different things off the track, on the track,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: everything in between. What is the first thing you kind
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: of dove into to where it felt like this is
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: mine outside of having carrying the because you carry the
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: legacy of your old man and you have the Earnhard name,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 3: you're Daleerenhard Junior or the sun. What was the first
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: time you realize and felt like it since of pride.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: All Right, this is a thing that I see is
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: like something.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: I've done probably Junior Rotorsports, the race team that we have.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: We've ran in the Infinity Series, which is again that's
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: the kind of the college level. We've ran there for
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 2: seems like eighteen years, a long time. We've won ninety races,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: five championships. Me and my sister run that together. And
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: she's hands on. My sister is she is a She's tough,
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: really really tough business woman, savvy and and so like
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: in negotiations, she never loses. That's that's her. And so
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: she's tough. She knows what the value is. Yeah, she
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: knows the value of everything and understands what what's realistic
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: and just sharp. And so I'm very fortunate that that
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: I that I got her as a teammate. And so
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: we have ran Junior Merger Sports together. Our dream or
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: our idea, the idea was that me and her would
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: be involved in the I, which was my dad's race team,
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: Dell and Hart Incorporated. Our thought was that that would
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: be what we would do all of our lives, right,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: and and so a lot of things happened. Dad passed
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: away and we ended up leaving the team over the
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: course of six or seven years, and so that didn't happen,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: and we started this other team and started it with
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: one race car, uh four, three or four employees, very modest,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: and we've grown it into a really successful deal. We
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: love being at that level where we graduate people up
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: into the top series. Right, So drivers come through our program,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: crew chiefs, mechanics, engineers, even people in our office marketing, licensing.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: They all come and work at our business, get educated,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: get a great experience, get get a reputation, and then
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: they get a call from a Cup team. It sucks
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: to lose great people, but it's also like a big reward,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: like we're doing it right. We're doing something right where
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: people are wanting to hire our good people. And so
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: when a driver gets a phone call, they'll call me.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: I remember one guy called me and he's like, I
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: got some tough news. He's like, one of the Cup
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: teams called me and I got to do it. I
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: was like, that's not tough news. That's what we that's
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: like winning a race. That's that's a victory for you.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: For me, that's why we did this. I did this
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: so that you would get this chance. Not that you're
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: going to be a career Infinity race racer for me
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: right hopefully if everything works out. Most of our drivers
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: are only there for a year or two and they
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: move on to the Cup level and race on and
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: so that's that's a fun thing to do. I can
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: look in the Cup field today, the field that runs
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: on Sunday, I can look in that field and there's
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: at least a third of the field that raced for
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: me on Saturday at some point in their career. There's mechanics,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: crew chiefs, tons of people in the industry that have
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: came through our race team to get to the top levels.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: Bad. That's fun.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: So I'm proud of that.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: That's mine. So do you ever want to get your
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: race team into the Cup show?
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: And so to race full time in the Cup Series,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: you need a charter, which is basically a franchise. Think
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: about it as like a franchise.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: You there are.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: Only three dozen of those NASCAR has. There's a rule
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: between there's an agreement between the teams and NASCAR that
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: there is only a certain amount of charter. So to
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: acquire one, you got to buy one from somebody, and
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: they're selling for anywhere from twenty five million to forty
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: million bucks. And so you got to buy the charter,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: and then you got to buy the cars one hundred
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars apiece. You got to have an
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: engine program, you gotta you know, you gotta upscale employees.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: Uh So to race full time in the Cup Series,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: you might be able to do it on twenty million
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: dollars a year. So it's one hundred million dollars to
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: probably get started, right to buy h charter or two
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: and then have the funding annually to run at that level,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: you got to have a massive commitment from corporate America
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: somewhere to be able to fund the team annually and
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: long term. And so our yeah, to go from where
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: we are now and our business model is a massive
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: jump and a huge commitment. Scary sounds like, Yeah, I
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: mean one hundred million dollars to get started as wild. Yeah,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: you've been close, is anybody like? We've had some really
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: fun We've had some really cool conversations with some mass
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: We've had a we had a conversation with a mat
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: with a with a with one of the largest or
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: most popular sports franchises in the in the in the country. So,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: I mean there's interest out so the interest that I
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: believe the a team like mine or a person like
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: me to be able to get into THEIRS, it's gonna
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: have to be it's gonna have to be like an
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: investment firm or a current like a current entity that's
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: owning sports teams, right and so.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a couple, Yeah, I can see a couple of
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: mys right now.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And so there's been there's interest, there's in in
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: the the the investment firm thing is kind of new,
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: but it's getting it's gained in some popularity. There's been
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: a lot of there's been a lot of these sort
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: of groups that have started to invest in in race teams.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: So like certain race teams have taken on investors and
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: sold equity in the ownership of the program.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: So that's kind of promising for somebody like me that's like, hey,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: I've got the I know how to run a race team, Kelly,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: and I know how to operate this thing in basics, tessful.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: We how to do it and not lose money, and.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: We how to be successful.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: We have a lot of equity in our in our
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: name and our reputation, and so we're I think I
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: feel like we're very appealing for anybody that's like, hey,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: I'm brand new to this, I don't know anything about racing,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: but I think on a charter is going to be
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: very valuable. So the charters have doubled in value annually,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: So like if you bought a charter six years ago,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: you might spend six to twelve million dollars. Now they're
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: worth forty million dollars, thirty five, thirty million dollars. I
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: believe charters in ten years will sell for eighty to
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars apiece. So I mean, I think
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: if I was a person that had that kind of
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: money to throw around buying a charter or investing just
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: in a charter, getting some equity in a charter would
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: be easy and easy, yes, right, because that is not
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: going to lose value. It's think about Dan Snyder bought
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders in whenever whatever year, not eighty nine
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: or whatever for six hundred, eight hundred million dollars and
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: sold it for six billion.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: NASCAR charters are similar as they are a franchise of
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: sports franchise, and now they won't ever get into the
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: billions or maybe not even into the you know, you know,
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: five hundred to seven hundred million dollar range, but they
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: will increase in value from from thirty to forty million
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: dollars now. I think realistically it's one hundred fifty, one
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty million dollars value. I would put that
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: on I would I would say, I would confidently expect
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: that to be the value of one in ten years.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: And so why wouldn't you if you had that kind
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: of money invest in it now because it's.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: Like you need some some busting with the boys backing.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: Think the bus is open high interest rates investor. Yeah,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: this is our team.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: We're talking about talking some serious shit.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. Man. Congratulations. Yeah, it ain't happen yet. Yeah
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: it that't happened. Yeah Yeahuly congratulations on it happening in
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: the very near future. That'd be nice. No.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: One just very surface level stuff about those conversations. I know,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: it seems like it's very hard to just even be
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: in those rooms and have those conversations.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I've we've had some fun conversations with
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: some people that were interested in but it's got to
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: be perfect.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: You can't.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not a risk taker with my finances. Yeah, and
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: so like when I had kids, I was like, all right,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: I gotta be a little smarter, Like I was gonna
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: bounce my last check.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: That was the way I was going to live.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: Right when I was a single dude just raising hell
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: and doing my life, I was like, I don't want
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: to leaving ship behind. But then when I had kids,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: I was like, now it ain't mine no more. Yeah,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: all theirs right right now, and now I'm spending their money.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: They're a massive curve ball for them sitting there getting wheel.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: By the way, your guys' facility is so badass. It
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: is like going out there, there's people, like, there's people
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: out front waiting for you to just get done with.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: Working equity of the nun and it's like, yeah, we
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: walked out. We were there on a Tuesday. Yeah, and
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: there's a bunch of people just went out there to
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: catch a glimpse gate Yeah. Yeah. Do you think he's
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: in there right now? And we just walked in You
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: thought we were royalty. I wonder like.
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: Podcast, I'll say this, I'll say I'll admit this. Your
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: your podcast and your your brand is incredible. And do
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: people not know where you are physically right now, did
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: they not? If they knew where you were, they too,
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: and if they knew when you recorded.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: If it was just if it was a consistent.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: Like hey, we record every Tuesday, they would people be
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: standing out there like.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: We appreciate that deal. I don't know. I mean, there's
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: been a couple of people up there anymore. We had
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: a Tanneheal sign like somebody broke in on one of
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: our old places we were at, broke in and didn't
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: steal anything, but left a guess nice yeah, and they
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: were wrapped too. He would go to work. There's another cat.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: He'd be going to work and he'd notice that when
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: the doors slid up, he'd see the bus inside. He's like, so,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: I know you guys have been here, and I was
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 3: just waiting to get like an off day or something
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: and just go and just sit and wait.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: Just kind of guess ran when he was the GM
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: for he just sent somebody over here one day. Yeah,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: just random all as ran toold as we can come by, Okay,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: no text or nothing, just like showed up. But it
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: is cool though.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: It was kind of it was cool to witness just people.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: I think that was during one of your guys' weekends too.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: Well, the race was in Charlotte.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that that matters. Yeah, comes into town. But
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: they know we record on a specific day. Yeah they
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: know that is that each time you record every Tuesday?
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you got people sitting there waiting. You're just sitting there.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: But even your studio is awesome, Like you, I love
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: to set up the back of all the viewers you
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: have to see. Then there's the window with your dad's
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: car sitting right out there, and you can see all
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: the guys working like it's a It's an awesome setup.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: Super clean too.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you want to be right now it looks
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: Not mine neither. My house is a mess.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: But you got to be honest.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: You're in the game of collecting things. As there ever
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: been a car you sold that you regret selling.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: Hell no, I regret buying cars. Uh, that's like crazy.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: You know, everything with wheels as soon as you buy it,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: it depreciates like half as soon as you drive.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: It off the lot.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: But I shouldn't say that being in the car business.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: But oh man, I bought a Calaway Corvette that was
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: kind of a thing back in the day. Calaway corvettes.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: I bought one of those, and I was so it
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: was the dumbest thing. I had it for a while
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: and finally sold it for like a fraction of what
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: I paid for it. But uh, my buddy had a
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: motorcycle and dropped his motorcycle in the nose of this
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: cowboy callaway corvette and the foot peg went straight through
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: the nose. And he, luckily he owned the body shop,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: fixed it up for me. But just a bad experience.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: But no, I mean.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: I had a Biscayne that I maybe.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: Should have hung on too.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: Uh kind of a kind of a rare car. That's
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: my Calaway that the bike fell on.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: That's it. That's it. Yes, I was stupid to buy that.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: I did not need it. And it had this like
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: it had this little weird noise in the in the
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: rear one of the wheels, a break calp or something
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: like a tick. It wouldn't go away. That I wouldn't
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: smart enough to really fuck with. But that green truck,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: So this is my daily driver, that green truck right there,
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: and it's the forty eight. And I did a lot
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: of own I did a lot of my own work
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: on this truck, and so it has a It has
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: a modern Vortec engine in it. It's nothing crazi or special,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: but like I put them rails and wood rails on
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: the back. But in the inside of this truck, I
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: think it was kind of during COVID. I decided to
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: cut cut the inside and redo it myself, and I
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: put some pictures on the Internet and stuff of me
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: working on it. But I did a lot of woodwork
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: inside and putting new inserts on the seats, and my
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: two year old grab a show and ruined the brand
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: new inserts, so I had to take the seat.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: Back out and redo it.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: But I did the console in the floorboard is I
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: made it out of sheet metal from one of my
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: bud cars, so it's like a bud Wiser, like a
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: half of the bud Wiser logo in the floorboard of
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 2: the console.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: Awesome.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: It's just really kind of a grunge truck, you know
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: what we call a grungs truck.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: But is that the best gad?
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the best Gain.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: I kind of wish i'd kept the best Gain. There
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: you go, kind of cool car that was like twenty
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: years ago.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: I sold that, but.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I I always was weird with
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: my I was, I was. I did some foolish stuff
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: with money. No, I'm not gonna lie. But I also
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: was kind of oddly tight. And the buddies, my buddies
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: that I raced with back in the day, always joked
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: with me about being a tight ass. And so like,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: I if I I got like twelve cars, right, I'm
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: a guy. I'm a car guy, So I'm gonna have
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: a little collection, right, And I'm okay, that's okay, But
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: I got twelve cars. And if I see something that
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: I liked, and I still do this today, like, if
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: I see something, I gotta be willing to sell one
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: of my twelve and buy it, Like I won't buy
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: it and add to it, I'll be like, do I
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: want it bad enough that I'll sell one of these?
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: And if I will, I'll sell one of these?
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: All right? Man, we had fun. That was good. All Right,
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: you're out some car owners out there, but I don't
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: want to give you a try.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's I got an umbrella and everything's got
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: to fit under it. And if it don't, you know,
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not I don't want to be.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: I shouldn't I'm probably thinking overthinking it, but I was
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: just didn't want to be ridiculous and have like cars
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: everywhere because it will work. It bugs me to have
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: a car that I don't drive and that one time
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: I get in it, it batter's dead fucking tire shape
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 2: because they're square because it's been sitting too long, or
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: they're break shake or something. It doesn't drive well. Right,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, I don't have that. I love
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: this car, but I'm not driving it. It's not it's
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: not doing itself any good. I'm selling the something, getting
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: rid of it.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: What's been your biggest impulsive buy? Impulsive? Where you've spoiged too?
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: We're like, that was it?
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: That was? That was dumb?
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 2: Oh man, I mean the Callaway Corvette was stupid. That
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: was another one that was That was over one hundred grand.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: That was dumb.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: Green truck, that other green that's not square body. I
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: want to brag on that sun bitch.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: Look at that thing bad.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: Look at that them plaid fucking insert on that seat. Yea,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: that ship's badass.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: I love that square body trucks your camp. They're coming
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: back coming? Oh they're back? Are they? Hell? You gotta
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: send me the newspapers because I haven't seen that.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: Well, if I take this bad boy out, it turns
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: some ends's.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: Just driving to see watching everybody. Yeah, it's always a
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: construction workers too, on the side of the road kind
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: of do this.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know that I have like a I don't
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: know that I have a bad regret on on like
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 2: a big, big time financial thing. But this is one
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: thing my wife and I talk about is she'll be like, hey,
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: our couch is destroyed.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: Like we've we've you know, kids and dogs and all this.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: Couches just fucked up. It's time for a new couch.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get in and she'll show me, Hey,
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: how about this one? And I'll be like, damn, that's
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: you know, a couple thousand bucks. And she's like that's
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: what couch has cost. And I'm like, that's a lot
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: of money. Man, I can't believe couches cost that muchy.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: You know, your wife will show you stuff. There's a
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: way that's like a normal price for that, right, that's
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: way too high.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but if a new.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: So I'm a gamer, and I'm a PC gamer, and
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: so like, if you know, the fifty nineties just came
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: out and there's like a massive shortage, and so I'm
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: sitting there going I'm looking at eBay and I'm like, God, dang,
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: they won't five thousand dollars for that fifty ninety in
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: video card. My buddy knows a guy at the microcenter.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: Maybe I can get one from the microcenter nine days.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: They're coming in nine days. They might get me one
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: in nine days. I'm like like feeding on this, like yeah, this, uh,
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: you know, or new monitors. You know, I gotta get
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: this new monitor. Man the refresh raid or the you know,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: it's it's over. It's like two hundred and you know
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: whatever mega hurts, I gotta get that's better than what
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: I got. And that's gonna be like a thousand dollars.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: I got triple screens on my racing rig, triple screens, so,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 2: you know, a thousand dollars a monitor. And I'd be like, Amy, Amy,
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking about building a new computer. Gonna get me
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: a fifty ninety new new CPU, new motherboard, new case.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: And she's like, how much is that gonna cost.
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know. Four thousand dollars five days though,
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: and she's like, and you roll to raise hell about
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: this couch. But you'll just go buy it, you would.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: I would literally just go buy this and not even
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: tell her, right and and but I want to know
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: how much the couch colls.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's how I operate. That sounds like every
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: guy ever you're telling me the story. I'm thinking of
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: multiple comportations with my wife and I have all the
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: time about things where I'm like, Charles brings up a couch.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: I'm just thinking, I feel like.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: I feel like such an asshole. And we might have
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: talked about this on the show. But man, when I
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: when we were going, when we were booking, uh, we
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: did a planner for our honeymoon and we went to Hawaii,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 2: and when that lady came in, you know, the planner
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 2: plans this trip right, and we're gonna stay and we're
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: gonna be in Hawaii two weeks and we're gonna be
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: at this place, this hotel and this hotel. When that
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: lady came back with the quote, I was like, ain't
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: no way. I was like, what room are we talking
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: about here? I gotta see, God, they gotta be other
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: rooms and I'm going to I go to Amy and
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: I'm like why can't we do why can't we do
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: these rooms? These rooms are waitless, wait we be in
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: the room. We're just gonna sleep in the room. She's like,
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: come on, this is your honeymoon. Doing this one literally
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 2: preaching right now.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: It was awful.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: And I look back on it now and like it
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: really didn't matter. But man, I was turning my guts
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 2: looking at that price in those rooms and I'm I'm like,
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: we don't need this. We can stay in this room
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: and it's nice.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I was to I always hit it
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: with budget stuff. Man Like when we I built my house,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: I like had a budget and I was like, this
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: is I got a pee too, But yeah, we have
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: a budget. It's like, hey, this is going to be
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: this is how much money we're going to spend to
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: build this house. So I would go to the people
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: and be like, hey, when we're looking at fixtures, show
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: me what's in the budget. Low end, high end, but
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: it has to stay in the budget. And every meeting
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: I would go to, whether it was like I don't know,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: plaster on the walls or something like that, they would
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: show me two things or three things, but then they
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: have one in the corner over here that wasn't on display,
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: but it was right there, and either me or my
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: wife probably more time it's not me would be like, well,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: what's well, what's that one? What is that? Right? They're like, well,
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: you don't want to know about that outside the budget.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: And then there's always this game that you play off.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: It's like, okay, well if we do that, then we
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: can move a little something over here. It's just how
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: like the male mind compartmentalizes how to spend money. At
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, you're doing it the same way.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: But it's just fighting a way we have to justify God.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: To justify it is. Uh, it's a it's a pain
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: in the ass.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: I remember when so we have we have a banquet
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: for our championship at the end of the year. This
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: is back when me and Amy we were just gotten
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: pretty serious and uh, I'm like, all right, man, we're
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: getting ready to go to the banquet. I'm getting whipped
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: out my tucks. I'm aware to say I wear the
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: same freak if it'll fit. I wear the same damn
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: tucks for twelve years. I don't give a ship. I
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: don't need new tucks. I'm wearing this thing once a
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: year ago. And so but she's like, I'm gonna get
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: a gown and uh, I'm like, a, yeah, we get
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: you a gown. We're gonna get a gown. I ain't
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: never bought a gown, you know, I don't know gown prices.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: And she comes with this gown price and I was like,
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: what the hell, what the hell? I mean it was
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 2: he's some GOINGA never even came close if I had
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: to guess, and uh, man, I'm on the phone with
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: my sister. I'm like, you believe this and she's like,
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: she's like, that's what gowns cost. I'm like for real,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 2: She's like yes. I was like all right.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: I was like, damn, man, that makes me feel better
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: when you know that what it costs. When when you
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: first see the price, like what hell are we doing it?
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: And then she gets the gown.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: We go.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: She looks amazing, and I mean again, like this was
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: years ago. I feel I know I was, I know
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: I was foolish, but she looked amazing. And we get
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: back and I'm like it can't it dawned on me.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: I was like, so, uh, She's like, I'm gonna put
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: this away and I was like, you don't wear it again.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: She goes, no, never wear it again.
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: I was like, you don't. You don't sell it.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: Because she would sell some stuff from time to time.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: She had a little I was like, you don't sell
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: it down. I can't sell it. She's like, hell no,
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: I mean selling this gown.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: Don't understand this at all. Like you you know, you
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: sent all this money, you wear it once and then
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: you're gonna put it away and keep it and waiting
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: dress gowns, gowns, ball gowns and stuff like that. I
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: was blown away. The first time I paid for a gown.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 2: It was another big giant wake up. It was like
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: the couch story where I was. I called, I called
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: back up. I was like, hey, I called my sister.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: I was like this gown. She's like, yeah, that's that's reasonable.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: I was like, horseshit, there's.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: No way you brought the tucks about having h just
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: like one one tux your whole life. And when when
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: when I was playing, I was three hundred and sixteen pounds,
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: like we'd always you know, every Sunday guys want to
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: get the fits going and stuff like that. So every
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: couple of years, I would go get a couple of suits,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: but I would always go to my suit guys and
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: be like hey, when I obviously were like eventually i'mna
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: have to retire and lose weight, like I'll be able
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: to bring it all in where I can still wear
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: these and like, oh, yeah, no problem. And now I'm
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: like sixty pounds less than I was before. And I
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: brought these suits to people and they're like, there's no way.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: I can't fix it. You can't. So I've spent an
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: absurd amount of money on clothes that just sit in
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: my closet. I look, I'm like I could never wear
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: this again. I had a bunch of my buddies that
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: were still playing. I was like, hey, come over the house.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: I said, like this probably closet besides like this suit
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: and that suit that the suit I got married in.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: And then I have like a customer and has like
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: my daughter's names on it. They're like, uh, the dazzled
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: or whatever. I was like, yeah, that suit too. I
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: was like, you guys, take whatever you want, and they
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: just ransacked the whole thing. It was like Ruse and
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: Raivens came over and did all that. But some of
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: the money you spend just on dumb ship. Like I
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: look back and just like what was I buying suits for?
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: Who cares for?
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: A photo is exactly what it's for, because you don't.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 3: Even I don't know how you were, but I never
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 3: even fully put the suit back on, like even on
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: game day.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: No on once you get the photo to get on
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: the plane, would you like loosen the tie you and
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: talk you get that, dude, No one talks about suits
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: like you see like these people like you go on pinchers.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: I want to get nice little suits. You start looking
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: like ideas and you see all these like suave gentlemen
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: with like the suits perfectly laid out when I put
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: that ship. When I put that ship on, it's like
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: it looks good for forty five seconds and then it
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: starts like wrinkling up at the top or I get
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: a little a little sweaty, so I move it. It's
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: never tucked in long enough. It's just a pain in
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: the ass.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 2: My biggest problem with pants or suits is the calves,
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: Like I can't it can't my calves are I don't know.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: I have problems with the pantlet being too tight.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, we have opposite.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: Issues, and so when I.
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: Looks them, boys haven't seen the sun and let me
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: get yeah, yeah, you got nice calves though, got nice
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: cab me. I've always had these prey legs. Man, the
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: National Geographic getting chased by line.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: Like I get a new suit, get it dry clean.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: Now I can't wear it because it's got a hold
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: of my cave. Man, I can't so comfortable to push
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: it down.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 3: Are you Are you jeans all year round, even in
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 3: the summer.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: I mean he answered that question for us.
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 2: I think I'm in pants all the time, but I
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: mean as white as white as I am. You gotta
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: be careful on the color of short you wear because
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: it can make the whiteness even whiter. So you got
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: to be like a very tan kind of off white.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: But you know Dale when he takes off like his
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: face and his face and like from the shoulder down,
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: he's got a tan. He's done out there, even in
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: things out in the summertime.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: I'm as a broadcaster, I gotta wear I can't wear jeans,
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: so I wear a lot of Lulu.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: Oh. I've seen that they've had some some stuff come
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: in about how it happened their material lowers your te
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: levels TA levels. Yeah, I know what you should. You
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: should look into its True Classic. Hey, well, can I
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: ask you a question? Ask me what do you love
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: about the True Classic brand? What don't I love about
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: the True Classic brand? That's fair.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 3: The first thing that comes to mind is their T shirts.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 3: They fit snug, they fit right, and your boy, I
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: got a little extra going around the what do they
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 3: call it, the muffin top the spare tire, Yeah, the
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 3: spare tire around the right above the belt. True Classic.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 3: It grabs you perfectly in your chest, grabs you perfectly
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: in your arms to where it gives you a little
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 3: leeway down by the low tire, so it gives you
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 3: a perception of, oh this guy's body compass went down.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 3: That is what I love about True Classic. There are
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 3: Jeanes also nice snug, but you can also have a
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 3: looser option and they're very breathable so you can bend.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 3: You could hit low astograss squads if you wanted to. Absolutely,
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 3: But those are the things that jump out when you
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 3: ask me what I love True Classic? What would you
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 3: say you love about True Classic?
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: My favorite thing about you? I love what you said
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: about the T shirts? And I love how there's no
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: branding on it. I think a lot of times people
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: get mixed up with the big bold letterings on things.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: If you want to keep it true and you want
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: to keep it classic, the best thing to put on
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: your body, no branding, keep it simple, keep it simple,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: the kiss method. That's what I love about it, Dude.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: I love these genes you talk about astigrass like I
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: wear these babies every single day. Yeah, I got mobility
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: out the yazoo. You can't mess around with these bad boys.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: And the shirt. You said it perfectly, like you take
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: your shirt off, you look yourself in the million be like, okay, yeah,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: I can see where I've let myself go in a
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: couple of areas. You put the shirt on. Then all
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: of a sudden you're like, maybe I can have that cheeseburger,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: Maybe I can have those little sneaky treats in the
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 1: pantry lately, lately at night when I've had a couple
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: of extra vitamins. Because this T shirt makes everything just
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: look a little bit better, dude.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it does simple, look good, feel good. True Classic.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 3: Back to this episode, all right.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: True Classic. They have a new material that just came
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: out that is Rivals blu Lemon, like it's got that
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: stretchy but like still fits good kind of feel. And
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: their stuff is elite.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: That's like the the new that's that's like kind of been.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: The saving grace is the jeans and all the ship
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: that stretches. Yeah, so it kind of because my body
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: changes all year, Like I'll go up and down ten
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: pounds all year long, up and down now Holidays and
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: shit like that.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: And Novembers that's when, Yeah, you gotta buy the pants on.
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: I need my ship to be able to work with me. Yeah,
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: move a little bit. Yeah, he would be incredible with
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: true classic stuff on. Yeah.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 3: I mean that's his style on his flow on it.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: It's very clean. Yeah. I like that.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 2: I kind of like cut, Like I don't like a
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: tapered pant. It got that oh yeah kind of the
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: little for the loose.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 3: You do seem like a big time boot cut guy.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: Yea boot cut. I can't wait for this long they
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: can get that baggy cowboy look. I mean, I ain't
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: gonna be no queer. Yeah, you got your tapered pants.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: He looked at me the first time, me go, what
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: is this guy up to? It's like you got to
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: check out these with the pants and jeans. Yeah you
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: big boot guy though you like the boots? No boots?
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: I just like, why fair enough? Yeah? Like you fall
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: off of skyscraper? Can parachute down something nice? I feel
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: you gotta stay safe out here. We need you.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: When you sit down and your pants come up and
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: you see your ankles.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir, I'm if you got some good cash though,
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 3: and then you got some good ankles.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got legs. I don't need nobody seeing my ankles.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: You don't need none of that. You don't need anybody
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: seeing them legs.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: I know what am I gonna do? It's too late.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: I'm fifty years old, like getting a tan or I'm
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 2: past the point.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 3: Like when you go to Hawaii, are you wearing pants
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 3: on the beach?
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah? They make it. They make a special swimsuit for
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: you know. You know Dale dy'e walked into his wife's house,
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: like his house like a year ago, with the pants
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: that you can un zip. Sweet looking? How nice these are?
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: These are pretty crazy.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 3: He probably wears pajama pants too.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: Probably you do straighten me as a guy with the
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: buttons too, like the button pajamas.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: Shirt no Christmas. Yeah, I gotta do that.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: How elide is the matching family pajamas for Christmaer, Really
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: that is nice.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: You've got a couple of sets of matching pajamas. But
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: I'm another brand.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 3: But yeah, so the matching pajamas for christ.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: What do you what do you mean pajama pants? What's
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: wrong with pajama pants?
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: Yes? Nothing, we know you do. There's nothing wrong with them.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 4: I don't know man's She showed us the leg and say, okay,
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 4: he doesn't show his legs because legit, if I'm not
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 4: leaving the house, I'm not putting I'm putting sweatpants on
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 4: or pajama pants.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, big sweatpants guy. But I'm saying when I sleep,
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 3: it's either I'm just in my underwear. I got shorts on.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm an underwear guy. I'm an underwear guy. Yeah, okay,
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: I tell you.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: That's why I thought I don't sleep in pajama pants.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: I would I would have guessed.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: You can't like I.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: Still, I'm still not selling the button thing.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: If you get in the if you get in the bed, sure,
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 2: what are you pulling up on this computer? You get
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: in the bed with pajama pants on they go, they
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: rise up to your knees. You gotta you're always pushing
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: them down.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: I can't have that. No, that is a That is
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: a fight, man, the pajama pants.
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 3: Should we dive into the most important thing of this episode?
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: Can I please pee? Oh yeah, I might du you.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: Need to take a go ahead, boss, you wait, I'm
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: gonna show you all my ship.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: Preparation.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: That's where what is it where preparation meets the opportunity.
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 2: But I texted him and then you post on Discord
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 2: you're doing your playbook, and.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 3: I was like, dude, that's awesome. I'm like, hey, we
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 3: got to get a game in and you're like, oh no, no,
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 3: I don't play.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: I would, I would, I just wouldn't. I didn't want
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: to make it. I didn't want to. I didn't want
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: that to be the dominant thing about this, this this,
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 2: in this meeting.
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 3: Brother, I love simulation, like the fact that you you're
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 3: simulating the game.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: Right, No, we play it, man, you play.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: I play the games.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: Oh so when you're winning, you're you're doing the user. Yes, sir,
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 3: I thought you were saying you don't play.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: No, I don't. I meant like I didn't. I don't like.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: So this is this is, this is how I do.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: I will play in this franch eyes with them. I'll
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: play them.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: Are we recording, Mitch?
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, I don't get on there and go I'm just
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: gonna jump in a random game with some Yahoo online.
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't do that. It's weird to me. It's weird.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: I will race on the internet against anybody across the country,
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: you know, twenty thirty dudes.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I can't. It's weird to me to play
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: like a one on one. Let's talk about college football.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: What use would you want to talk about this entire podcast?
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: A little bit?
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 3: Is the most recent national champion college football coach in
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 3: his league?
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, I was all right, So.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know if everybody can see this, but this
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: is my gift from Charlotte, you know, the forty nine.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: Ers un CC.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: I am in a twenty three person league. Friends, buddies, people,
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: Some people don't. And uh.
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: I started as one star with Charlotte and recruited him
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: up to a four and a half star and beat Michigan,
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: who's a buddy of mine. He was my best man.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: He's the best man in my wedding, TJ Majors. He's
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: Michigan one three in a row, Natty's in a row,
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 2: and I beat him in the last national championship and
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: so unseated.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 1: Dynasty.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 3: It's a fun Yeah, any firm college football sicko.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: It's fun.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: And he's a better he's a better user, he's better
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: on the stick. So he's he's he and there are
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: other people in the league that are just a little
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: better on the stick, right, juke.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: Juke.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 2: Well, I recruited, worked hard, so I was gonna bring
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: you my SIS is my iPad, my own personal iPad.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: Right, So he literally halfway through this podcast I was
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: looking at I was like, why does he have? All?
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 2: Right, Well, it's the only way I can really help
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: you understand, like the work that goes into this. So
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: I have a spreadsheet on my dynasty, and this is
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 2: my offense, right, and so like this is your depth chart, yes,
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: depth chart reds seniors, juniors. You know, it's color coded
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: for players. And these are all my red shirts, and
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 2: these are scouting. These are guys I'm scouting. This is
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: how many points I've got on them. Where I am
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: in the scouting first first you know, second in scouting
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: and so there's defense.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: All right, this is a fool, this is this is
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: a manifesto. This is a Conor Stallion's manifesto.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is my depth chart, right, and that's.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 3: How I have stuff on the game where you can
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 3: see the depth chart.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: But I need to be able to take it over.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: This is the deal is showing why he's been greatest
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: whole life.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: I need to take it everywhere I go because I'm
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: always thinking about this and I'm always like, oh, I
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: got to move that guy's he's so offensive. Or the
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: outside linebacker speed rusher is broken, right, They in the game.
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: They can't they can't improve. So if you've got a
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: speed rusher outside linebacker, you got to moving for him
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: to really realize his potential. So maybe there's something like
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: that going on and you're like, I'm gonna move into
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: defensive end. So I got this with me all the time.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: This is probably the real money of the whole This
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: is all the success. So this is my playbook.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: So these are all run plays.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: These are pass plays, RPOs screens right, and so these
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 2: numbers is the average yards per use. So if I've
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: used the plays one hundred times or thirty times, or
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: how many times I've used the play. This is average
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: yards on that play, and so this is where the
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: play is in the situation. So first down, these are
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 2: all the first These are all the run plays in
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: first down.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: This play this is your call sheet.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 2: It's my call sheet, and so I will and like
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: you know, there's a you know, I'm a forty run plays.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: All of these aren't in my.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: Playbook I got. I do a custom playbook. But this
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: is how I customize it. I run all these plays.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: I play multiple games, and then I'll look at at
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: the average yardage that I get for.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: All these plays.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: I will then rank them and their ability to gain yards,
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: and then I will customize my playbook and to make
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: sure that when i'm you know, on a first and ten,
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: I've got it. Suggesting to me, I use suggestions only,
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: which is kind of a no note for most people.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 2: Most people don't think suggestions is the way to go.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: But I use suggestions, but I have my custom book
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 2: tailor to suggest to me the exact play I need
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: that's probably got the most the play that's got the
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 2: most probability to get the first down, And there's you know,
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 2: and then on second and short, second, medium, second, long,
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: all the situations right, going for two goal line pass,
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: whatever it's gonna give me, at least, you know, five
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: or ten of the best, most highly successful plays for
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: that moment. And every six or seven games I go
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 2: through and look at all my plays and make sure
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: to update average yardage per use and because that moves
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: it in, that moves to play up and down the list, right,
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 2: and maybe there's a new play that And the other
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: thing I do I got on my YouTube. I've got
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: this loan curated playlist of videos. I follow about three
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: or four five content creators around n Cuba, and I
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: watch all their videos and I write down everything that
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 2: they're learning and all the tricks, the cheese, whatever you
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: want to call it. And so there's all kinds of
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 2: quirky broken things about the game and recruiting and player.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: Progression stuff like follow Nkirk Probably not he's a quarterback
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: for the Packers, but he breaks down colleg football twenty five.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: Really I need to follow you.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 2: I follow these guys that are making content daily and
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 2: always finding something new and unique and how to make
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: the best coach build and whatever, right, And so I
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 2: write all this stuff down and have all this information
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: ready to go and make sure I'm doing everything I
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: need to be doing to be successful. And so when
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 2: I go play my buddy TJ, who's probably gonna beat
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: me one on one if we just sat down and
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: both took Alabama, I gotta be all. I gotta be
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 2: ready with everything I can bring him right to beat him.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: And Michigan he's he'll come up to the line of scrimmage.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 2: Every damn player's got a star under it all. You know,
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: he's he's recruiting better than anybody else with his pipeline. So,
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's got amazing players and he's good. Your
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: squad's got the but I got I got I'm doing
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 2: the work.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're doing what the entire football staff is.
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: One individual. So and so you won the next championship.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: You don't play, he does.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 3: He corrected that. I guess that's what he now means
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 3: is I'm like, what if we got a game, and
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 3: for him it's like, nah, we there's no I don't
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 3: sit down and play the football game and I picked
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 3: my favorite team and we play.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: Against each other. I won't.
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 3: He's taking that like he plays at his spot in
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 3: his spot only because he's got everything down.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 2: I play this dynasty and nothing else.
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: Like, I don't do away game. I don't sit down
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: and do it. I don't sit down and do.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: A one on one with some random right right, I'm
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 2: not into that.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: It's weird. Make it to your league.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 2: I go and play my league games. That's what I play.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 2: And there's twenty three of us in there, and and
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: some of us. I got two teams. I got Stanford two,
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: and so I just started using Stanford just to kind
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: of kill the time between advances, because sometimes our advances
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: are four or five days, so there's a little bit
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 2: of dead time.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 3: And I was gonna ask, like, what's the cadence with
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 3: this league?
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, every four or five days is an advance, and
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: so he commissions it, and the commissioner Michigan wows. So
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: before we started to yeah the podcast, you will the
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: saying that you don't play, but you actually do play.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I play the games. We don't send the games,
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 2: but I don't play outside of this dynasty, Like I
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: don't play just pick up games with regular folks. I mean,
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: I think it would be fun, but it's I don't
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: know why it's valuable.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: It's weird to me.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 2: It's weird to me to play one on one in
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: any kind of console game with a stranger. I don't
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: know why that's weird to me, But I do like
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 2: being in like group activities like where you play with
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 2: Like in on my PC games, I play a game
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: called hell Let Loose and.
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: It's a World War two shooter.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 2: So you got to squad up with six guys and
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 2: you'll all got to be doing your jobs and ship
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 2: like that. So and then you gotta go. You go
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 2: rac You're gonna play PUBG. I play PUBG back in
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: the day. But I'm I'm on a hell Let Loose now.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 2: But on I Racing, right, you race against twenty thirty
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: dudes on I racing on my sim My sin Rig.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: I do that anytime. I don't mind doing that. But
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 2: this is this deal here, and I'll say this, like,
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 2: and you guys can probably appreciate this.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, I've already appreciated everything that you've laid out
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 3: for us with that iPad.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the detail.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: Situation is a massive respect factor that's taking place right
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: now with what you've done here.
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 2: Ye crazy, the real that's it's unnecessary and if you're
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: just I know it's unnecessary, but I need to do
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 2: it because I love the I I love the the details,
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: I love the data, I love the information. And like
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: when I would when I was working out and trying
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: to stay in shape as a race car driver, what
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: I enjoyed doing was road bikes. I hated the freaking ride.
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: I hated the ford to my ride. I dreaded it.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 2: What was hanging out there in front of me was
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: all of the data I got from the ride, my
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: average watts, you know, all of the information that I
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: would get from my you know, my technology, and all
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: the all the crap you could put on the bike
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 2: to tell me how I did compared to my last ride.
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 2: That's what I rode for and that's what made me
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 2: want to ride, was to see if I was faster
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 2: or better. And and that's you know, and I think too,
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 2: like as I've retired from racing and I don't have
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 2: that consuming my brain all the time, Like these little
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 2: hobbies are what keep my mind sharp at like fifty
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 2: years old, Like I need like I need this mental
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 2: gymnastics that's in this you know, the it's this bullshit
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 2: that I'm playing with my buddies, right, and I take
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 2: it way too far, right, and and but I'm like, hey,
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 2: you know that's my chance to win. That's how I'm
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: going to beat DJ is to be like, make sure
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 2: that I am playing the I am calling the very
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 2: best play every single moment I can possibly call for myself.
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 2: And I know this because I've looked at all these
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 2: plays and I've ran them and I and I've listed
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 2: them and I've got them right here, and I've created
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 2: this very you know, custom playbook, and so yeah, it's fun.
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: You need to get the next level.
• 2:00:31
  Speaker 2: We need an inspiring I don't know what the next
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 2: level could be. I mean, I think it's already taking.
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 3: When I was racing and it was the forty miles
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 3: and I dreaded it.
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: I hated it. It consumed me.
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 3: But all the technology, all the details, the process, the
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 3: loving it. And he's like, that's when I get out
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 3: of college football twenty five.
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: He's like, I don't have that anymore. And you know,
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: when I'm.
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 3: Coke sh what's the masscot for Charlotte.
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: When I'm coaching those boys that Charlotte.
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 3: Forty nine ers, and golly, Samuel, He's elevated his GPA
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 3: and now he can't play and he is eligible this Saturday.
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: And that's and I got a guy who's on the
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: outside linebacker spot. I know he's reach his maximum potential,
• 2:01:18
  Speaker 1: so I move him into defensive and I get to
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 1: see that spark in his eyes. And we've had jumping
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: to the next.
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 3: Level, and we've had one on one conversations. I'm like, no,
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 3: you belong on the edge, and he's trying to tell
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 3: me I'm a stand up backer and now I need
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 3: to trust this data.
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: That this has given me in I found uh. I
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 1: showed him the sheets. He doesn't believe in the sheets,
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: but eventually he did believe in the sheets, and what happened.
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 1: He's a five star, always a blue blood. Yeah, and
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: now he's a champion. Yeah, because he listened, because he
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: took the coaching. He's a champion. I have Does Amy
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 1: think all this? She hates it? And I gotta know
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 1: you're Caden.
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 3: So you're every Okay, your games, your weeks are four
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 3: or five days long, right, but you're clearly you're.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 1: You're every day.
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm every uh every other day probably in the
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 2: in the I'm in the you know in the I'm
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 2: in the war room every other day working on this.
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: You know those off days too. He's thinking to himself,
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 1: I want to be back in there real life work,
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 1: and to get this real life work. It's the time home. Yeah,
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 1: he's all right, we're gonna be watching this TV show
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 1: that was last night.
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 2: I was like, we're not doing We're not doing it tonight.
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 1: We watch this show. Be there for my family. You
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 1: know again this simulator real quick. I guess I should
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 1: work on my cars.
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 2: I do have a game that I've got to play
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 2: against app State App States my my co pilot. He's
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 2: with me here in Nashville. He flew the plane, he
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 2: landed the plane here today. And his name is Alex.
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 2: And I played Alex a couple of seasons ago and
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 2: beat him really bad. And so I spent the time
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 2: on the next flight that we were flying somewhere and
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 2: wrote him a basic and E book and gave him listen,
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 2: I gave him my play book.
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 1: You wrote him an e book.
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 2: I wrote him an e book mail emailed it to him.
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 2: I'm like, here's everything I do with scouting, Here's everything
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 2: I do with plays, Here's here's I'll show you this ship,
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 2: he's stallions and then I sent him, I sent him
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 2: my play I sent him my playbook.
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 1: He wrote his buddy and e book. He wrote his
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 1: buddy a manifesto on how to become a better twenty.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 2: Five and he's dominant now and now like when I
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 2: play him, it's like, I know I got damn ship
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 2: together because he's gonna call the same ship I call,
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 2: and I got it.
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even know how to stop
• 2:03:24
  Speaker 1: some of the ship I call. Yeah, you regret.
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 3: You've transcended man, Like if I was playing myself, could I.
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: Even beat this?
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 3: And it's so funny because the passion oozing from him.
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 3: He really asked himself that kind of question. Yeah, how
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 3: good he was doing? He's like, have I have I
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 3: done it? Have I cracked the code on this? He said,
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 3: I wrote, I've given him everything that I know, and
• 2:03:58
  Speaker 3: now I'm going to be playing against him and he's
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 3: going to be calling the same ship that I call,
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 3: and I'm wondering, can I even stop myself? And you
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 3: see the look in his eye like he's got Daytona.
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Oh, it's a great question. Do a
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 1: picture of the war room.
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's just my house. I mean, it's just my
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 2: game room.
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, no, no, you gotta have a corn.
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 2: No, no, it's just a room with a couch and
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 2: a TV.
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 1: One time you got a court board with some sort
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 1: of there's none at pictures and ship.
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 2: There can be no physical evidence.
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 5: He prints out the man physical evidence.
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: In the room. God, you gotta stream this. What time
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: of day that this is happened for you? Like the game?
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 3: You know when it gets to all right, kids go
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 3: down by seven thirty.
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 2: Ye knows, kids go to bed about nine o'clock.
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can't imagine you're putting down your kids
• 2:04:56
  Speaker 1: at seven thirty eight o'clock they go to bed. I
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: can't imagine that. Like the pregame, jitters, they want you
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 1: to read the book. They want you to tell the story,
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 1: and you're thinking your kids have no clue. It's week
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 1: one of the big seasons. Great pull.
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 3: This brings it all back around. They'll sent me his
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 3: children's book and I'm reading it to Ruine. I'm thinking,
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 3: this is the longest long book I read.
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 1: So he reading his boys. This is a this is
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 1: a Ruse is a long time. He made this book
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 1: for his boys in his league that he knows his
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 1: kids and now they can't focus. They're gonna read this
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: long ass book. So we're gonna read go dog though, Yeah,
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 1: he just do. Those are the best ones too. When
• 2:05:37
  Speaker 1: you're kid, you tell you, okay, go and pick out
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 1: a book. They're bringing back those real Oh my gosh,
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 1: but the pages of that thick each is only about
• 2:05:43
  Speaker 1: eight of them. You're like, hell yeah, okay, well well
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 1: one tonight though.
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 3: Okay, I meant to do it right up on Twitter
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 3: about your children's book because I remember being in.
• 2:05:53
  Speaker 1: She wants to go back and see the cars in
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 1: the garage.
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 2: There are some books that are You're like, damn, I
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 2: should take that one out of rotation.
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 1: Everyone should. Hey, everyone out here listening, please buy the
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 1: Monk your little one.
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 3: Go walk over to the shelf and like, god, why
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 3: did't I read that one right there?
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 1: Tripp to Victory Lane? My my? How many pages that? Then?
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 1: What's that novel? Look like?
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 2: My six year old is the long book, person, and
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 2: my little four year old is like the cardboard hard
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 2: you know, cardboard? Yeah, open it up, it's like three
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 2: words each page.
• 2:06:27
  Speaker 1: I love it. Hell yeah, everyone's in a Harry Potter
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 1: right now, we're busting out Harry Potter. But it used
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 1: to be a chapter a night, and you haven't seen
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 1: me read on this podcast yet. But it's it's slower
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 1: moving the most. And so I go to like the
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 1: five pages, saying. My four year old she's the same
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 1: way with like the little pop up books, and she
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 1: wants to put stickers on a page. I'm like, we'll
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 1: do one page. And I always let her do too,
• 2:06:48
  Speaker 1: because I'm like, kind of dad.
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 2: I did we get out of there? You're it's no bullshit, man.
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 2: I'll be sitting in there in the middle of the book,
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 2: going damn this book, you know, And then I have
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 2: to remind myself. I'm like, what a name whole? You know, Yeah,
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna miss this, you know. And I'm like, I
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 2: guess just ship, I'm telling myself. I'm like, shut up, self,
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 2: just read the book, just enjoy the book.
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 3: You're gonna wish you're back in this moment then just
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 3: sitting out your arm.
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 2: My little four year old is smart enough to know
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 2: I'm half assed in this right yeah, she you know,
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 2: and she's like, what's the deal with this guy?
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I was passionate about this. Yes, I am. Where's
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 1: the voice inflection? Yes, yes, yeah, yeah. You gotta change
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 1: the voices too, for all the characters. I really enjoyed
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 1: doing it. I don't read to do that.
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 2: I do that because I have to do I have
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 2: to do the audio for our book.
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 1: You know what's messed up? Yeah, you're doing books. I
• 2:07:42
  Speaker 1: get into it. You know how they say like in books,
• 2:07:44
  Speaker 1: there's like the quotes are like somebody's talking, and as
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 1: there's like Darla said, it's like soap, Darla said, Darla
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 1: says in the beginning. So I know to change the
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 1: voice inflection. Yeah for that, because I started going across
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 1: these lines. It's around I'm like, what voice am I
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 1: supposed to be doing here this Darla? And I feel
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 1: like I have to go back and read as Darla
• 2:08:03
  Speaker 1: now and have made up.
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 3: Sure, I'm glad you brought the info on uh the
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 3: children's book. I saw the age range is four to eight.
• 2:08:09
  Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, so where's got a couple of years.
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't even crack that, right, it's appropriate learn about like,
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 1: oh man, super nice this. Incidentally, all his buddies in
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 1: the league their kids a off between four and eight.
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 1: That how this all happens.
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 3: You get freed up around nine. Yes, so you'll play
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 3: from nine until.
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 2: I just a game is an hour, so like if
• 2:08:31
  Speaker 2: it's but you ain't just with Ali, I know. So
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 2: you got recruiting every week. Yeah, you got to go
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 2: in there and go right. Man, I got a big
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 2: lead here. I can spare some points and put it
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 2: on this other guy where he's in second. And now
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 2: I'm in a five and a half star or four
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 2: and a half stars. So I'm going up against some
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 2: big schools trying to beat you know, Michigan and other
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 2: Michigan got two wide receivers from me already in this round.
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 1: We're in like week before.
• 2:08:53
  Speaker 2: We're in week four, and they got to like mid
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 2: ninety speed five receivers and and but I got one guy,
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 2: you know, So there's just one guy I think.
• 2:09:01
  Speaker 1: I might win. So you'll play until about midnight midnight.
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking at my I'm looking at the clock.
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 2: But then man, you get up and you're like, I'm
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 2: gonna go sit on the couch and he's some jump
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 2: food or sometimes man, I just can't go down.
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you have a big game. You got a
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 1: big game, saying he's coming down. It's from the Yeah,
• 2:09:21
  Speaker 1: you have done playing a big sixty minutes, especially when
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 1: you win, win really good. Yeah, I get nervous.
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 3: Eat some food, send your boy a message.
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 1: Like how'd that go for? You? Go the way you wanted? Yeah?
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, something i I'd beat to get to the to
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 5: the to get to the national Championship against Michigan, I
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 5: beat Texas State by with the last second field.
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: Goal Texas State. So there's somebody else in there. I'm
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 1: good at recruiting the pre dominant core his name, and
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 1: he's pretty tough. He's got a fast quarterback and he
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 1: knows how to use it like he's involved with the
• 2:09:57
  Speaker 1: mafia with that name. Yeah.
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 2: So I almost didn't even make it a natty because.
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 1: How many years as this dynasty?
• 2:10:04
  Speaker 2: I won year twenty nine, twenty twenty nine. It took
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 2: you twenty twenty nine, four years?
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, sorry, And so you've unseated a Michigan
• 2:10:13
  Speaker 1: team that's won three national champions Yeah.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 2: He won one with South Carolina and then somehow or another,
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 2: he don't he don't do his recruiting or used to not,
• 2:10:21
  Speaker 2: and his team took a ship.
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 3: And so you gotta, I gotta, I gotta, I gotta
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 3: work a lot, got got Yeah, I know, man, my
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 3: time's limited.
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 1: My time's limited.
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 2: Man. I can only I can only put this much
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 2: into it for a short period of time where I
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 2: have to I have to.
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 1: Pull the plug, go do something else. Yeah.
• 2:10:41
  Speaker 2: We used to have a Madden League back around twenty twelve.
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 2: He was in that too, and it was full thirty
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 2: sixth or however many thirty two full member. Everybody had
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 2: a team. I was Washington, and uh, I got this.
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 2: I got this fictional running back I'll never forget his name,
• 2:10:56
  Speaker 2: Nick Hubbard, insane. I pulled him off a free agent.
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 2: So he was like a sixty eight overall, but he
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 2: had ninety seven speed, ninety eight speed, and a lot
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 2: of strength and a good a good uh a good
• 2:11:07
  Speaker 2: uh trucking ability and and so I his his overall
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 2: was so low because this uh, his awareness sucked. But
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 2: if you're usering the player, don't matter if they got
• 2:11:20
  Speaker 2: bad awareness. So I blew this dude up. He was nasty,
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 2: and I destroyed the league for three years in a row,
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 2: one three three super Bowls in a row, and that kid,
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 2: And then I was like this is boring, I'm out,
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 2: I quit no is this is funny.
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 1: Sure? Would you pull up the game the what hell
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 1: or high water was in?
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 5: Hell?
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 1: Let loose?
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 2: That's it, hell let loose, dude, It's fun as hell.
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 2:11:40
  Speaker 2: Call of duty, it's kind of called to dude. It's
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 2: really slow, so there's it's kind of like call of.
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 1: Duty, but call of duty but slower it slower pace.
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 2: The it's like one shot dead. You gotta really kind
• 2:11:52
  Speaker 2: of you don't. You know you're gonna dialog if you
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 2: move too fast. Yeah, so you gotta gotta method.
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I on a lot, or you get one life
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 1: and that's now you can respond. Okay, so very much.
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: Dale was gooning with us on PUBG one night, and
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: I like Hill. I like the the I like the real,
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 1: historical an Eyeland.
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 2: I like the historical. I like the historical, like World
• 2:12:25
  Speaker 2: War two era. So if PUBG just had a time,
• 2:12:29
  Speaker 2: I used to play crap Ton on this thing. I
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 2: used to play pub G on iPad because like you
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 2: could take it anywhere, yeah, and play anywhere, and it
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 2: was not bad on the movie.
• 2:12:38
  Speaker 1: It's pretty good. But did you ever play Red deb
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 1: Redemption two? Yeah? Give me your take on that game.
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 1: Did you play it all the way through?
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 2: I don't think I finished it, dude, it's a lot
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 2: it is. You got to have the book.
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 1: Did you get the book to finish it?
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 2: Because you got to? I mean sometimes you'll get in
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 2: some of the scenarios and you're like, I really don't
• 2:12:58
  Speaker 2: know what the fun to do right here?
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 1: Like the book tells you every little Yeah, I guess
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 1: maybe all the side mission, yeah, but I mean I
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 1: feel like trying to find the treasure map or go
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 1: skinning animals or something like. Yeah, but if you're just
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 1: playing the storyline, I think I encourage.
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 2: I think I did the first one, red De Redemption,
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 2: and then.
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 1: I did the second one.
• 2:13:17
  Speaker 2: I what I want is and it may exist, but
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I got into red De Redemption
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 2: two on the PC, and I want to like a
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 2: I want to I want a world that's existing all
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 2: the time that you can drop into that's a wild,
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 2: wild West, and like you are, you're a character and
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 2: you're always developing that character. I know that you can
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 2: jump into online play on red De Redemption, but it's
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 2: it's kind of cool, it's kind of quirky, it's not
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 2: like a authentic realistic experience, right you run around shooting people,
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 2: will they shoot you?
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 1: Whatever?
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 2: But it would be cool if they could figure out
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 2: a way or if there is a way to like
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 2: have a have a character it's everlasting, Like that's your character.
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 2: You drop in, you play this guy, you're this guy,
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 2: and you go, you know, put your ass to bed,
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 2: get up the you know, next time you log in,
• 2:14:08
  Speaker 2: you get out of bed and you go run around and.
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 1: Do some stuff. And so you're making know it does.
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 3: I'm just thinking, like, I wonder if there's anything in VR,
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 3: and then I'm thinking, like VR, but you might get.
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Dale, of all the people, I would never
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 1: expect this, but I think Dale ready player one. Yeah,
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 1: you put the thing on. Then all of a sudden
• 2:14:26
  Speaker 1: you're in that world and you're gonna real world kind
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 1: of goes to ship. Yes, this world because I'm the
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 1: same way, I could definitely fall into that trap.
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 3: He's like, you get up, you take your you take
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 3: your ass to bed. And I'm just thinking you played
• 2:14:38
  Speaker 3: Harvest Moon before.
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 1: But so in this Red Dead fantasy you have it's
• 2:14:43
  Speaker 1: a Western game, but you can like build a home
• 2:14:45
  Speaker 1: land all these so you can essentially live in a
• 2:14:48
  Speaker 1: real world. So there's a game called ARC. You tried
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 1: to put Will and the Boys on it. They weren't
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 1: really having it. But essentially you start out as like
• 2:14:56
  Speaker 1: a level zero and you're like a cave man. You're
• 2:14:59
  Speaker 1: you're living in priest uh and dinosaur times, and you
• 2:15:03
  Speaker 1: could you're essentially just like trying to survive for your
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 1: first fifty levels. But you can learn to learn to
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 1: make tools, learn to build structures, learn to you know,
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 1: you can start farming things, and eventually you can get
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 1: so good at ARC that you can have like technological
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 1: advances where you have like jet packs, you're flying on things.
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 1: There's dragons, and that is a world that is everlasting
• 2:15:22
  Speaker 1: the way you're saying. You can live in that and
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 1: people can come to your world and take all your
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 1: stuff and you basically start all over. Yeah, it's kind
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 1: of like day Z or was it Days? We played
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 1: day Z for a while.
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 2: That's kind of yeah.
• 2:15:39
  Speaker 3: My old thing is you build that thing up and
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 3: you die and you get taken over.
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 1: It's over the Asian.
• 2:15:44
  Speaker 2: Clans coming, so that start over. Days's like the zombie Apocalypse.
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 2: You launch into the world and this thing's been around forever,
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 2: and it's kind of it kind of goes through these
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 2: certain periods of popularity and but you land on this
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 2: big giant island and you got nothing right and you got.
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 1: To you gotta eat.
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 2: You're like, your guy will die if.
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 1: You don't like feeding food.
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 2: And you you know, you steal from people and you
• 2:16:08
  Speaker 2: build houses to hide your shit in.
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 1: And it's kind.
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 2: Of the same way, but it doesn't really progress beyond
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 2: like the technology bear basic technology that you have is
• 2:16:18
  Speaker 2: what you have.
• 2:16:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this one, this sky No, that was a great
• 2:16:22
  Speaker 1: that's a fun game. I but we need to go
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 1: back to Red Devy Damster real quick. You need to
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 1: go play too. You need to play it all the
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 1: way through. You need to play the storyline and fully
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 1: invest in Arthur Morgan. To me, this is the greatest
• 2:16:33
  Speaker 1: game ever crew. Okay. When I got my ACL refixed
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, I had eight days and I
• 2:16:40
  Speaker 1: played the entire game in eight days. I had nothing
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 1: else to do. I sobbed at the end of the game.
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 1: I had no joke, tears streaming down my face. It's
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 1: me and my wife and I cried, and then there
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 1: was a break in crying, and as I was going
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 1: to sleep it and I started to recry about the game.
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 2: That's how How did your wife take that?
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, what the fuck? These pain pills
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 1: are must be away different than anything I've every thinked.
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 2: I'm already getting a lot of ship back, buddy in
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 2: insta football I'm playing. I'm not sure how she might
• 2:17:09
  Speaker 2: react if I cried yeah.
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 1: Over a game. Arthur No from the other room. The
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 1: edge man getting emotional thinking about it now, to be
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 1: honest with you, I'm getting emotional thinking about Arthur Morgan
• 2:17:24
  Speaker 1: right well. And I know there's a bunch of Tier
• 2:17:26
  Speaker 1: ones right now saying, oh, you need a double stream.
• 2:17:27
  Speaker 1: I'm going to double stream. It's been a busy couple.
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 3: Bro. You need to not just they can't. They shouldn't
• 2:17:33
  Speaker 3: leave you alone. You said something you haven't even answered them,
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 3: I actually have.
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 1: You need to focus on Twitter account. I I actually
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 1: still talked to Billy. You're talking to them every day,
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 1: but I don't talk to people every day. But I
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 1: sent a little p s A. I said, hey, I
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 1: know I said I was gonna do a double stream.
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 1: I've been made aware it and it was right above
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 1: the tweet you made. I will eventually do a double stream.
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 1: You're streaming your game. Yeah, we'll stream Tuesday's round eleven.
• 2:17:56
  Speaker 1: But what's that platform? I think to Twitch? Yeah yeah,
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 1: not Twitch. No, I don't think we dove enough into it.
• 2:18:04
  Speaker 1: We should definitely dive into.
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 3: That, Like I just don't know much about it. Oh
• 2:18:08
  Speaker 3: really yeah, yeah, because we were when we on pub
• 2:18:11
  Speaker 3: g coop.
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 1: He does it from a PlayStation.
• 2:18:14
  Speaker 2: Discord discord that that that's what we have in our
• 2:18:17
  Speaker 2: our college football league is a big discord. That's how
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 2: we communicate every day. And everybody's in there running their
• 2:18:23
  Speaker 2: mouth and bullshit about it. It don't even matter.
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 3: Guys.
• 2:18:29
  Speaker 1: We're like, all right, yeah, good luck, good Yeah, that's
• 2:18:33
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• 2:18:42
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• 2:19:02
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• 2:19:06
  Speaker 3: So for example, Steve Vanella. He gave us a great story.
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 3: He's like, by the end of my life, like, I
• 2:19:11
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• 2:19:13
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• 2:19:16
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• 2:19:18
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• 2:19:21
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• 2:19:26
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• 2:19:29
  Speaker 1: What is something that you use? My life has been amazing.
• 2:19:34
  Speaker 1: There ain't shit. I don't know.
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to say that. I mean,
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 2: obviously the traditional things I have to probably say some
• 2:19:43
  Speaker 2: people that are watching this don't go, what fuck's wrong.
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 1: With this guy? With my wife and my kids? But
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 1: outside of.
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 2: I would uh uh, I think I would probably. I
• 2:20:01
  Speaker 2: mean those the things that keep hopping in my mind
• 2:20:03
  Speaker 2: are like getting my getting my kids through college, or
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 2: because my life has been I've already done all the things.
• 2:20:12
  Speaker 2: I've already done everything. I did it all, I did
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 2: everything I wanted. I don't there's nothing sitting in front
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 2: of me where like shit, I hope that happens. Not
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 2: even the cup stuff, Like if the cup thing happens, ye,
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 2: I was gonna bring that up. I was gonna, Yeah,
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 2: I don't want to do I wouldn't do anything for that.
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm kind of I'm kind of fifty and
• 2:20:29
  Speaker 2: good and I want you know, I want to watch.
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 2: I want to be I want to be more excited
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 2: invested in what happens between you know, now and my
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 2: kids graduating school and moving out of the house. Right,
• 2:20:43
  Speaker 2: are they gonna play sports? Is it gonna be dance?
• 2:20:45
  Speaker 2: Whatever the hell it's gonna be, right, What are we
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 2: gonna what are we gonna get into? And my goal,
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 2: I think is all of that, whatever that is in
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 2: that whatever happens between now and them graduating college, which
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 2: I hope they do. Oh, that's fine, they choose, But like,
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 2: I want to make sure that they are when they
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 2: leave the house right to.
• 2:21:06
  Speaker 1: Be adults, that they are equipped with all.
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 2: The tools and so like I would do anything in the.
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 1: World to make sure that that is what situation.
• 2:21:17
  Speaker 2: They're in, you know what I mean. There ain't nothing
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 2: in front of me personally, professionally that is That's that
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, you know, gotta get it.
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 1: It seems like it sounds it seems like back to
• 2:21:33
  Speaker 1: back titles and yeah, yeah, I'm a generic answer and
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 1: made it beautiful the way you for your kids.
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 2: Dude, I'm gonna tell you right now, if I got
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 2: a on my podcast this week, we played a clip
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 2: TJ's my podcast co host my buddy that I beat
• 2:21:49
  Speaker 2: with Michigan. We played a clip from the coach of
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 2: the un C forty nine ers congratulating me. I got
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 2: the helmet, a jersey, a hat.
• 2:21:59
  Speaker 1: I told him.
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 2: I told all my buddies in our discord, I said, hey,
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 2: I just booked a spot on Busting with the Boys
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 2: to go talk about the Natty. I told him that
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 2: two weeks ago, and they're like, yeah, and so I've
• 2:22:13
  Speaker 2: been running this end of the ground and TJ is
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 2: over it and so like, if I don't beat his
• 2:22:18
  Speaker 2: ass this next time, it's gonna be help.
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 1: Book the spot. I'm busting with the Boys, are gonna
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 1: talk about the Natty.
• 2:22:24
  Speaker 2: If I don't win, he is going when does the
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 2: next season start. It's already started with like three four
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 2: weeks in, So I think we'll play this, you know,
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 2: we'll play the national championship probably in about four or five,
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 2: four weeks maybe.
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's just short lived celebration. And then there's on
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 1: a tour of celebrating your next chamionship in the middle
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 1: of the next season.
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 2: And so he's he's you know, he's the favorite to
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 2: do to win next the next Natty and he's already
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 2: probably behind the scenes planning his celebration because he has
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 2: some Canadians, he has connections at Michigan does it. He
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 2: knows some people, so it could be rough. But I
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 2: told him, I'm like, live it up.
• 2:22:59
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 2:23:00
  Speaker 2: Who would have thought Charlotte taken him down?
• 2:23:03
  Speaker 1: I would not have thought a lot of money on
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 1: family where.
• 2:23:07
  Speaker 2: We in before we end this, I just wanted to
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 2: I brought this helmet.
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 2: We didn't talk about this, and there's really nothing to it.
• 2:23:14
  Speaker 2: There's not a story or anything other than you know,
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 2: y'all both know that I love Washington and when I
• 2:23:19
  Speaker 2: went to in twenty fifteen, I had an appearance to
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 2: go to the College Football Hall of Fame, and I'm
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 2: standing there to I'm also meeting a Make a Wish
• 2:23:32
  Speaker 2: kid there that particular day, we were going to tour
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 2: the facility, right and look around all the cool shit
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 2: in there. I'm standing there and Dave Butts, was alignment
• 2:23:42
  Speaker 2: for Washington, walks up and he goes hey, and you know,
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 2: introduce himself. I was like, I know who you are.
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 2: And he handed me this helmet. I want you to
• 2:23:51
  Speaker 2: have this. So it was a big surprise that he
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 2: was going to be there for me, and somebody had
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 2: set that up. And so Dave Butts walks up and
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 2: he gives me the helmet and he's like, this is
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 2: my helmet from nineteen eighty four. I immediately obviously recognized
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 2: it was a game warm helmet, and he's like, I
• 2:24:06
  Speaker 2: want you to have it. And so people ask me
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 2: all the time like, and I thought to bring this
• 2:24:11
  Speaker 2: today because people ask me all the time like what's
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 2: your favorite piece of memorabilia of outside of racing, and
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 2: so this is it. This is my favorite piece of
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 2: shit that I've got right of all the all the
• 2:24:23
  Speaker 2: Washington I got helmets, tons of helmets. I collect helmets
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 2: I got I got one hundred and eighty ish college
• 2:24:29
  Speaker 2: and football helmets, right of all.
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 1: Types of teams.
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 2: And this is number one out of helmets or any
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 2: other piece of uniform, signed jersey, anything, this is my
• 2:24:39
  Speaker 2: holy grail. And Dave gave this to me, and I
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 2: thought y'all would appreciate it being players, knowing what this
• 2:24:46
  Speaker 2: probably went through, knowing what Dave, yes, right, I I
• 2:24:52
  Speaker 2: thought I needed to bring that. I wanted to bring
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 2: it for like maybe some some inspiration.
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 1: They played that different different world, Different world. Yeah that
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 1: is sick.
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 2: He was so logo too, yep. I mean it's back, man.
• 2:25:09
  Speaker 2: They kind of thought, hey, we're bringing it back. It's nice.
• 2:25:12
  Speaker 1: Have they been bringing it back?
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 2: They talked about the logo can come back and they're
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 2: going to use the logo and some marketing and some
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 2: things because of the family that designed it was like, hey,
• 2:25:21
  Speaker 2: you know, this is this is something we'd.
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 1: Like to have have happened.
• 2:25:24
  Speaker 2: I think there's been some conversations around the logo itself
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 2: being used in some market. I don't think the logo
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 2: was ever coming back to the helmet, right, But yeah,
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 2: pretty neat man.
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 1: I just Washington's in a good spot. Man.
• 2:25:36
  Speaker 2: They are kidding me. Great, they're in a great spot.
• 2:25:41
  Speaker 3: It was fun watching them last year just make that
• 2:25:43
  Speaker 3: run and beating the Lions.
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 1: That was crazy. It had been the performed the entire
• 2:25:49
  Speaker 1: game too.
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hadn't ran around and I was in Texas
• 2:25:53
  Speaker 2: at my wife's had some friends and family we were visiting,
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 2: and I was running around in this in this person's
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 2: living room like a maniac.
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 2: During the game, Amy's invested. Amy's into it. The kids
• 2:26:05
  Speaker 2: are into it. They wear jerseys and you and they
• 2:26:07
  Speaker 2: got the little cheerleader uniforms. And my little girl, Aila,
• 2:26:10
  Speaker 2: six years old, is like, hey, Commanders playing today, are
• 2:26:15
  Speaker 2: we wearing the jerseys? We got to wear the jerseys.
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, let's get the jerseys. And so, I mean,
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 2: the fact that they're good, the fact that they're winning,
• 2:26:24
  Speaker 2: it's all like happening at the perfect time for me
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 2: because my family's in My girls are kind of impressionable.
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 2: And when they were winning those games at the end
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 2: of last season, it brought me back to my childhood
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 2: because when you know, they hadn't they hadn't really kicked
• 2:26:40
  Speaker 2: real ass since ninety one. I was I remember where
• 2:26:43
  Speaker 2: I was when they won against Denver in the Super Bowl,
• 2:26:46
  Speaker 2: against the Bills against Miami, and I remember physically where
• 2:26:51
  Speaker 2: I was standing or what I was doing, and and
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 2: I hadn't been that happy and been able it was
• 2:26:57
  Speaker 2: so nice to be happy and like really truly genuinely
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 2: cheering about your team going that deep into you know,
• 2:27:05
  Speaker 2: the postseason. I know I'm overstating it a little bit
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 2: as a but I'm a fan, right.
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 1: So I'm biased. But you know, you you played there.
• 2:27:14
  Speaker 2: And you know the history and the legacy of that
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 2: team and what that means to the fans that go
• 2:27:19
  Speaker 2: to those games, and oh yeah, all the teams you've
• 2:27:21
  Speaker 2: played for, you know how passionate the fans are. And
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 2: God almighty, we've been waiting a long time. I mean
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 2: there's other teams that have been waiting a long time too,
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 2: but damn, it's been tough.
• 2:27:29
  Speaker 3: Just the story of Washington's the ownership and Cloud that's
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 3: kind of been root for him.
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 2: But you're like, they couldn't do anything right owner off
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 2: the field, it was always bad news. You'd like, nobody
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 2: wants to play for us. Look at all this shit
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 2: going on, all the you can't escape the bullshit.
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 3: And then to get new ownership and coaching staff and
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 3: it feels.
• 2:27:49
  Speaker 2: Like turned around and inane.
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 3: Players in and them have the success that they've had
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 3: so quickly.
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 2: It turned around insanely fast. I've been watching free agency.
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 1: I will.
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at my phone every day following JP and
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 2: a couple of those guys going right, man, what's up?
• 2:28:05
  Speaker 1: Who is a giant guy? Yes?
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 2: Like who's yes. I'm like, oh man, those are my guys,
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, what's the news? You know?
• 2:28:13
  Speaker 1: Let me know?
• 2:28:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, you know, because we're all fired up about our
• 2:28:16
  Speaker 2: GM and all we think he walks on water yeah
• 2:28:19
  Speaker 2: and uh and we're like, hey man, they're gonna now that,
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 2: now that we've shown everybody in the league that what
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 2: we can do, and they're body's excited about Jaden.
• 2:28:27
  Speaker 1: It's all these.
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 2: Players are like, I want to go there, Let's see it,
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 2: Let's see it. Here's free agency, let's see who signs up.
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 1: Sounds like a passionate man in general. The thing I
• 2:28:39
  Speaker 1: love you talking about, though, is like your kids getting
• 2:28:41
  Speaker 1: fired up watching the games with you, because my my
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 1: oldest daughters started to hit that with Michigan like this year,
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 1: like Shell every Saturday, like we'd have the game on
• 2:28:51
  Speaker 1: or whatever during the day and we'd either watch it
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 1: casually and then I We'll go back and watch it,
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 1: or like she would sit down and watch it with me.
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 1: And when we played Ohio State this year and we won.
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 1: I remember she was saying, other room because she was
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 1: doing something her her mom and my youngest daughter are
• 2:29:05
  Speaker 1: like sprinting in the room like we're all high five,
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 1: Like they were like truly about it, which I thought
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 1: was like the coolest moments like that. Yeah, I didn't
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 1: meet my wife and I was at Michigan, but like
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 1: she knows, like I enjoyed playing there and stuff like that,
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 1: and I've recently become like a bigger and bigger fan
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 1: and like really dived into the culture and to see
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 1: my seven year old be about it and then here
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 1: you talk about your kids about it, putting the jerseys on,
• 2:29:25
  Speaker 1: all that very similar. Yeah, it's like this is how
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 1: fans are built. Yep. This is like organically how fans
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 1: are just made. And that's awesome.
• 2:29:32
  Speaker 3: Teaching to go big red change, yeah, dad, dad football, Like, yeah,
• 2:29:35
  Speaker 3: we're gonna watch football today, sweetheart.
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have that all. I'm gonna be watching Daniel
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 1: Tiger the entire Kickrocks for just twelve hours. All right,
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 1: we'll get back to it tomorrow. This is me and
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 1: my daughter. I took her to uh Northwestern and so
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 1: that's the game before Ohio State, and uh, I mean
• 2:29:53
  Speaker 1: they dropped like a fifty burger on Northwestern. So Wind
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 1: was kind of dialed and I talked to the team
• 2:29:57
  Speaker 1: before too, so I was like, maybe something's in the air.
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 1: And technically they're in feeded since me and my daughter
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 1: went to that game.
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 2: So me and me and Amy were at the Chicago
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 2: game where they had the Harold Mary Oh shit insane.
• 2:30:09
  Speaker 1: That was so wild. We were sitting there in this
• 2:30:12
  Speaker 1: we yes football.
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's she likes it because I like it, and
• 2:30:18
  Speaker 2: there's not been a lot to there. We are that
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 2: we got to go down on the field probably about
• 2:30:22
  Speaker 2: probably about twenty feet away from us. You know that moment, right,
• 2:30:25
  Speaker 2: everybody's gone, the whole stayings empty. Jaden's about twenty feet
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 2: away doing an interview, and I would get to luckily
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 2: get to say, man, big Fanny, you're badass, you know.
• 2:30:33
  Speaker 2: And so that was a cool moment for us.
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 1: Oonder if Jaden even understands how big of the junior
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 1: year he waited for you to finish interview.
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 2: He has other things in his mind that are big deals, right, yeah,
• 2:30:45
  Speaker 2: that are cool, and and his generation and the people
• 2:30:48
  Speaker 2: that he like holds it a certain level of you know,
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 2: celebrity status or whatever. But we were I want my
• 2:30:56
  Speaker 2: Riggins Jersey. I'm like, they let me go sitting the
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 2: owner suite Like that was automatic when Dan was there,
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 2: when Dan on the team, I was getting in bites
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 2: every week. And then the new new people come in
• 2:31:06
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, man, I wonder if I get that invite,
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 2: And so they sent one and we're like, all right,
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 2: we're going. We didn't know where we were sitting, but
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 2: they walked us in there, and like, oh hell, they done.
• 2:31:17
  Speaker 2: We redid the whole thing, whole owner suite. It's like
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 2: a whole different color now. And we sat down on
• 2:31:22
  Speaker 2: the front road watch the whole game, and the ain't
• 2:31:26
  Speaker 2: looking good. Everybody's leaving. Everybody's kind of leaving the even
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 2: their owner suite. And he's like, what we're doing.
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 1: I was like, we are you leaving?
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 2: I was like, you know, even if we lose, we're
• 2:31:36
  Speaker 2: gonna lose, We're gonna stand here a few minutes, soak
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 2: it in.
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 1: We'll just wait.
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 3: We got.
• 2:31:41
  Speaker 2: And we're standing there and and you know, he he'sed
• 2:31:46
  Speaker 2: the ball up in the air and yeah, we're watching
• 2:31:49
  Speaker 2: and they fucking caught that pass and that and what
• 2:31:53
  Speaker 2: people were left. It was like pandemonium, like Amy, My
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 2: I'm watching I was like watching Amy go crazy loving
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 2: that because I'm like, shit, you know, my wife is,
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 2: you know, a big Commanders fan now, and I don't know, man,
• 2:32:07
  Speaker 2: that was a to have been there and seen that
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 2: in person. And I remember like watching the one guy
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 2: go down the field number twenty three, that that that
• 2:32:14
  Speaker 2: that was taunting. Yeah, yeah, I'm watching it, and I'm like,
• 2:32:17
  Speaker 2: here's an opportunity this. This fucking guy is not paying attention.
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 2: I wonder if anybody else know this is just like
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 2: you know, because he went viral. Yeah, and so I'm thinking, man,
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 2: this this, this might be a chance. There might be
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 2: a chance here. And uh, of course you know, y'all
• 2:32:31
  Speaker 2: know how it went down, but got a'm mighty to
• 2:32:34
  Speaker 2: y'all have probably seen the hell Mary moment or the
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 2: the buzzer beater. Y'all seen that because y'all are in
• 2:32:43
  Speaker 2: sports so much in college, high school, NFL, you've probably
• 2:32:47
  Speaker 2: been part of those moments.
• 2:32:48
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 2: That was my first like real like buzzer beater, like prayer,
• 2:32:55
  Speaker 2: that one in a million, yeah, you know, and then
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 2: for us to go on and do what we did
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 2: the rest of the year, right, because that was kind
• 2:33:00
  Speaker 2: of early in the season. But I mean it's just incredible.
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 1: But especially it's like Caleb Williams, who was the first
• 2:33:05
  Speaker 1: overall pick, there's obviously that like, yeah, always.
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 2: Big long run off in the second the third quarter,
• 2:33:11
  Speaker 2: and I was like, here we go, fucking falling apart. Yea,
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 2: our defense had held them up for so long and
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 2: now it's like they found the holes, they found the
• 2:33:18
  Speaker 2: Krypton kite they're gotting damn just destroy.
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 1: Us or that you know they're gonna win the game.
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yay, we got it. That was a fun season
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 2: last year.
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 1: I hope this year is good. Hope so too, because
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 1: you worry about you worry about the sophomore slump. That's
• 2:33:33
  Speaker 1: always worry. Yeah, that's always a little bit of a deal.
• 2:33:36
  Speaker 1: We've done some good to get some they'll get better
• 2:33:38
  Speaker 1: to the draft and we.
• 2:33:40
  Speaker 2: Only got five picks, so I don't know what that means,
• 2:33:43
  Speaker 2: and I don't I keep hearing that.
• 2:33:44
  Speaker 1: Just picked up somebody in pergency, right, the left tackle
• 2:33:48
  Speaker 1: from the Texans. That's right. Yeah, I mean they're good too. Yeah,
• 2:33:53
  Speaker 1: he's got good footwork, good Yeah, good footwork. What's up?
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 1: Good luck strong William. Actually, but they gave him there,
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 1: they're gonna break him off. I don't know if he
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 1: signed a new contract yet, but they Houston got a
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 1: whole bunch of picks. They're gonna have to pay him, yeah,
• 2:34:10
  Speaker 1: big time.
• 2:34:11
  Speaker 2: Well, they got to pay Jayden to a couple of years.
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 3: The good thing is they have Jaden on the rookie deal.
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 3: They can just get out there now. Yeah, if they
• 2:34:19
  Speaker 3: wait at least years years. Yeah, yeah, it's funny to
• 2:34:23
  Speaker 3: watch them work.
• 2:34:23
  Speaker 2: Man. They're the the free agency, you know, they're there
• 2:34:30
  Speaker 2: besides the left tackle from Texas. The players that they
• 2:34:33
  Speaker 2: bring in. You're like, I never heard of this guy.
• 2:34:35
  Speaker 1: Who's this guy? What's the story?
• 2:34:37
  Speaker 2: And and their story is really not like he's dominated,
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of like, well, he's a he's
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 2: a he's a journeyman, dependable, he'll get in there, he'll
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 2: do the job, you know. And that's what they did
• 2:34:47
  Speaker 2: last year. They had these one year deals. I don't
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 2: know about this like you guys, but you know, I'm
• 2:34:52
  Speaker 2: watching him like it's it's it's strange because everybody's everybody's
• 2:34:56
  Speaker 2: now signing like one year deals on these you know
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 2: these you know, these veterans that are in like the
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 2: seventies six, sixty seventy percent mark of their career, they're
• 2:35:06
  Speaker 2: kind of they got a little left in the tank.
• 2:35:07
  Speaker 2: But I mean, how is is that the way it's
• 2:35:10
  Speaker 2: always been, because it feels like I remember, it felt
• 2:35:13
  Speaker 2: like for years when free agency came, everybody signed like three, four, five, six,
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 2: seven year deals, And now everyone is doing these like
• 2:35:22
  Speaker 2: one year, two year, little rinky dink, you'll play here
• 2:35:26
  Speaker 2: this year, maybe not next year.
• 2:35:28
  Speaker 1: The journeyman, I think has become more and more casual
• 2:35:32
  Speaker 1: now than ever. This is this this free agency has
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 1: been very unique in the sense that the market keeps
• 2:35:38
  Speaker 1: getting hired higher just in these like this pocket of
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 1: this couple of weeks, like Max Crosby was the number one,
• 2:35:44
  Speaker 1: you know, highest non paid quarterback of all time, and
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 1: then a day later Miles Garrett, then a day and
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 1: then like you know, now it's like the fifth highest paid.
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 1: So it's really interesting to see these like markets set,
• 2:35:53
  Speaker 1: like these cap setting contracts happening. But a lot of times,
• 2:35:57
  Speaker 1: like you get through the first wave of that freegency,
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 1: which is like your your top guys who are able
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 1: to get away from their teams are gonna pick up.
• 2:36:04
  Speaker 1: And then you get like a lot of the guys
• 2:36:05
  Speaker 1: that have, like you know, they're signing usually the one
• 2:36:07
  Speaker 1: the two year deals. Yeah, it's like, is he gonna
• 2:36:09
  Speaker 1: work out? We know he's got talent, can he really
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 1: get it done?
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 3: So I think two, there's not as much of a
• 2:36:14
  Speaker 3: market because the structure and the new CBA and everything else.
• 2:36:17
  Speaker 3: When the minimums went up for rookies, it kind of
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 3: squeezed that middle class a little bit more because the rookies,
• 2:36:24
  Speaker 3: they'd be on cheaper deals, so you would see more three,
• 2:36:26
  Speaker 3: four or five year deals of like middle tier guys. Right,
• 2:36:29
  Speaker 3: But over time it's like the floor has raised for
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 3: the rookie deals and it's like, we're gonna have this
• 2:36:35
  Speaker 3: rookie for three or four years. You don't necessarily pay
• 2:36:38
  Speaker 3: the middle class as much. You can kind of put
• 2:36:41
  Speaker 3: all your eggs into the guys that you want here
• 2:36:43
  Speaker 3: long term, and guys will take those one or two
• 2:36:45
  Speaker 3: year deals because they're essentially trying to be on proved
• 2:36:47
  Speaker 3: deals to where they haven't seen the guarantees that they
• 2:36:50
  Speaker 3: would like in a full contract. Because if you're a
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 3: good player and somebody's offering you and let's just say
• 2:36:55
  Speaker 3: you know, three years, thirty million dollars, but only you
• 2:36:58
  Speaker 3: know five to ten guaranteed or something like that. Then
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 3: that player probably thinks in his head, I will just
• 2:37:05
  Speaker 3: do a one year deal, get a guaranteed contract as
• 2:37:08
  Speaker 3: much as I can, and then hopefully try and.
• 2:37:09
  Speaker 1: Hit a lick the next time.
• 2:37:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because it will middle classes kind of get squeezed
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 3: out because you'll just sign guys on one year minimums
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 3: or one year for lower money.
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 1: But you don't see those like middle tier contracts being
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 1: laid out as much as and well we'll just structure
• 2:37:21
  Speaker 1: out with a three or thirty million dollars ten million guarantee,
• 2:37:23
  Speaker 1: Like that's that's a three year deal, but really it's
• 2:37:26
  Speaker 1: a one year deal, right, like that that's a proven deal, yeah,
• 2:37:29
  Speaker 1: or it was of the past. Because of this whole
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 1: we'll just said the middle class getting squeezed because really
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 1: all you have is your guarantee. A lot of these
• 2:37:35
  Speaker 1: guys want to look at the total contract number, like
• 2:37:37
  Speaker 1: these guys are making whatever, two hundred million dollar contracts. Oh,
• 2:37:40
  Speaker 1: it's awesome, but then it's like, well, you only got
• 2:37:42
  Speaker 1: this much guaranteed though, they guarantee is what is the
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 1: most important thing, not how big the number is, because
• 2:37:48
  Speaker 1: they could walk away from me where they could backle
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 1: the contract and all these different things. So there's a
• 2:37:52
  Speaker 1: lot of like shenanigans and like savvy things that take
• 2:37:56
  Speaker 1: place during the free agency market.
• 2:37:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty fascinating to watch and we'll see how
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 2: how it plays out for my team.
• 2:38:03
  Speaker 1: Is there anything free agency type stuff in Nascar? Or
• 2:38:05
  Speaker 1: you're pretty just built in we're gonna pay you the X,
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 1: Y and Z a year. Yeah, it's pretty bonus is
• 2:38:10
  Speaker 1: based on if you win.
• 2:38:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's they're not really a free agency. Now
• 2:38:15
  Speaker 2: there's some drivers that will become available where their contract
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 2: comes up and they probably know they want to move
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 2: to a different team and they probably or they're getting
• 2:38:23
  Speaker 2: calls from like there's no tampering rules or anything. So
• 2:38:26
  Speaker 2: like an owner can call a guy and say, hey,
• 2:38:28
  Speaker 2: how many more years you got on your deal? Or
• 2:38:30
  Speaker 2: would you can you leave your deal? Can I buy
• 2:38:32
  Speaker 2: it out? Can would you want to come to my team?
• 2:38:34
  Speaker 2: I want you as my driver? What do we gotta do?
• 2:38:37
  Speaker 2: And so you may be able to pay that team
• 2:38:39
  Speaker 2: money to get him out of his contract.
• 2:38:41
  Speaker 1: Early.
• 2:38:44
  Speaker 3: Does that happen very much?
• 2:38:45
  Speaker 2: It has happened in the past. It's not a very
• 2:38:47
  Speaker 2: common thing. But I mean there's no real rules to
• 2:38:50
  Speaker 2: or we don't have a free agency yeah, period or
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 2: anything like that.
• 2:38:53
  Speaker 1: You ever approach somebody or gotten somebody.
• 2:38:56
  Speaker 2: I've not, you know, my team, My team was kind
• 2:39:00
  Speaker 2: of like taking these rookies in, these up and comers,
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 2: and we've.
• 2:39:04
  Speaker 1: Got more we got more people.
• 2:39:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got more people kind of coming to us
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 2: than we have seats to have veryce you know the people.
• 2:39:11
  Speaker 2: But in the top tier cup level, it's probably a
• 2:39:13
  Speaker 2: lot more cutthroat and a little more competitive.
• 2:39:17
  Speaker 3: Trying to how many times when you were a driver
• 2:39:20
  Speaker 3: did you get called from other ownership or.
• 2:39:22
  Speaker 2: Once in my career, so like I was my deal
• 2:39:25
  Speaker 2: at d I at my dad's company was ending and
• 2:39:28
  Speaker 2: I had two or three teams come to court me
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 2: or you know, pitch me of their deal and I
• 2:39:37
  Speaker 2: and I knew I wasn't gonna stay where I was at.
• 2:39:40
  Speaker 2: So I was I was all years and went and
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 2: met with everybody in each team and kind of took
• 2:39:44
  Speaker 2: the one deal that I liked. But that happened once
• 2:39:46
  Speaker 2: and I was happy to I was happy where I
• 2:39:48
  Speaker 2: ended up and wanted to stay there till I retired,
• 2:39:50
  Speaker 2: and I was lucky enough to do that.
• 2:39:53
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. I know we're wrapping up, like in football
• 2:39:56
  Speaker 1: when you're playing, or any sport in general, like there's
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 1: things you hate doing, but then when you leave the
• 2:40:01
  Speaker 1: sport and you're like practice, I miss that practice with
• 2:40:04
  Speaker 1: it like that, did you miss practice? Yeah?
• 2:40:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hated practice because practice was a lot of
• 2:40:11
  Speaker 2: times like testing was. Testing and practice are very similar.
• 2:40:16
  Speaker 2: In testing, you go to a racetrack in the middle
• 2:40:18
  Speaker 2: of the week, way before weeks before you're going to
• 2:40:21
  Speaker 2: race there, and you're by yourself. Usually there might be
• 2:40:24
  Speaker 2: another team there, but usually you're by yourself and you're
• 2:40:26
  Speaker 2: out there running alone and it's you and your team.
• 2:40:29
  Speaker 2: You go out, run five ten laps, come in, make
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 2: a change, and it's very monotonous and boring and you're
• 2:40:34
  Speaker 2: just running and running and you almost get bored of
• 2:40:36
  Speaker 2: telling them the feedback. Okay, yeah, that made it a
• 2:40:38
  Speaker 2: little better. I didn't feel anything. We're just doing nothing here.
• 2:40:41
  Speaker 2: I'm just spinning my wheels. But the team's got a
• 2:40:44
  Speaker 2: process and they got a plan for those two days
• 2:40:47
  Speaker 2: you're testing, and they are going to get through that
• 2:40:49
  Speaker 2: plan and learn everything they want to learn and then
• 2:40:50
  Speaker 2: go home. You don't realize that as a driver, you're
• 2:40:53
  Speaker 2: just bored to death running by yourself. When you practice
• 2:40:56
  Speaker 2: on the race weekends. Everyone else is out there, but
• 2:40:58
  Speaker 2: it's the same thing. You're practicing, changing things, your team's learning.
• 2:41:02
  Speaker 2: It's not a race. There's no check or flag, there's
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 2: no winter loser. You're just making laps and it's like
• 2:41:07
  Speaker 2: an hour or whatever. And I hated it. I thought
• 2:41:10
  Speaker 2: I was boring, and I hated to get ready and
• 2:41:13
  Speaker 2: go do it, and it was getting in the way
• 2:41:16
  Speaker 2: of whatever I wanted to do. But I wanted to
• 2:41:19
  Speaker 2: race race. The race was fun. I was excited about
• 2:41:21
  Speaker 2: the race, but the practice was just kind of boring.
• 2:41:24
  Speaker 2: But right in the last year, I was sitting in
• 2:41:27
  Speaker 2: my car and I think I was at Kansas Motor
• 2:41:29
  Speaker 2: Speedway and we're in the middle of practice, and I
• 2:41:32
  Speaker 2: sat there and it just dawned on me. I was like,
• 2:41:34
  Speaker 2: one there'll be a day in a very short period
• 2:41:36
  Speaker 2: of time where we won't I won't ever practice again.
• 2:41:40
  Speaker 2: And I was like, and I was watching my guys.
• 2:41:42
  Speaker 2: They were meandering around the car, changing little things jacking
• 2:41:46
  Speaker 2: the car up, gonna adjust this, kinna adjust that, and
• 2:41:48
  Speaker 2: they're just moving around and I got to watching them.
• 2:41:51
  Speaker 2: I'm in my garage stall. It's every other cars in
• 2:41:54
  Speaker 2: their garage stall. People are pulling in and out going
• 2:41:56
  Speaker 2: running laps and it's busy, and I was just sitting
• 2:41:59
  Speaker 2: in there. I was like, yeah, I'm gonna miss this part.
• 2:42:02
  Speaker 2: I hated this part and I should have appreciated it more.
• 2:42:04
  Speaker 2: But I'm gonna miss I'm gonna miss watching my guys
• 2:42:08
  Speaker 2: that I love. I love these guys, they're my guys.
• 2:42:11
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna miss watching them work. I'm gonna miss coming
• 2:42:14
  Speaker 2: in here and taking this car to them and saying, hey,
• 2:42:16
  Speaker 2: can you fix it? I got this doesn't work right,
• 2:42:18
  Speaker 2: or this doesn't turn good, or it doesn't strike, it
• 2:42:20
  Speaker 2: doesn't steer right, and they're gonna try to fix it.
• 2:42:23
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna miss trying to fix that puzzle with them
• 2:42:26
  Speaker 2: and work on it. And you know, I think I
• 2:42:30
  Speaker 2: knew I was gonna miss driving in the race. I
• 2:42:33
  Speaker 2: knew I was gonna miss the competition, right, but it
• 2:42:36
  Speaker 2: was the prep work that I thought I hated that
• 2:42:39
  Speaker 2: I ended up missing as well.
• 2:42:42
  Speaker 1: Beautifully said thank you.
• 2:42:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, do you ever remember those times, Like I can
• 2:42:47
  Speaker 3: remember a few situations where you're kind of sitting there
• 2:42:49
  Speaker 3: and you're kind of taking it in, just being like,
• 2:42:51
  Speaker 3: as much as this shit sucks, because practice did like
• 2:42:55
  Speaker 3: training camp, you know, there just be them days where
• 2:42:57
  Speaker 3: you're just in the middle of the season or whatever,
• 2:43:00
  Speaker 3: but you're just sitting there, taking in the breeze, taking
• 2:43:02
  Speaker 3: in the scene, the heat.
• 2:43:03
  Speaker 1: If it's training.
• 2:43:04
  Speaker 3: Camp, you're just like, one day, we're not even gonna
• 2:43:06
  Speaker 3: be able to do this anymore.
• 2:43:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel it was always like during camp, like
• 2:43:11
  Speaker 1: and you like you were getting those beautiful situations where
• 2:43:14
  Speaker 1: you got a small group of boys and anyone just
• 2:43:16
  Speaker 1: fed up and everyone just wants to vent and talk
• 2:43:19
  Speaker 1: shit about how this is just bullshit. All this we're
• 2:43:22
  Speaker 1: doing sucks, and like you let everybody vent and you're
• 2:43:26
  Speaker 1: sitting there, whether it's like we're all sitting in the
• 2:43:27
  Speaker 1: cold tubs after like die, like a couple guys are
• 2:43:30
  Speaker 1: cramping in the corner, and he's just like, this is
• 2:43:32
  Speaker 1: such a hot day and we got to do it
• 2:43:33
  Speaker 1: again tomorrow. Everyone's just complaining. But then eventually that conversation
• 2:43:37
  Speaker 1: would turn to someon would bring it up, be like
• 2:43:39
  Speaker 1: it's crazy. This is not gonna last forever. And that's
• 2:43:42
  Speaker 1: like a moment you have you're like, holy shit, like, yeah,
• 2:43:45
  Speaker 1: this is kind of these are this is the good
• 2:43:46
  Speaker 1: old days right now you're in it just sucking. Is
• 2:43:48
  Speaker 1: the good old days because it is the stuff like
• 2:43:51
  Speaker 1: practice sucks, like Camp August. I wake up now in
• 2:43:55
  Speaker 1: August and I smile to myself knowing that there's about
• 2:43:57
  Speaker 1: two thousand guys that they're dying. Yeah, I'm this cozy
• 2:44:01
  Speaker 1: man right now. This is my kids for a minute
• 2:44:04
  Speaker 1: before I go to work. Yeah, something like that. And
• 2:44:06
  Speaker 1: that's kind of nice. But then there's like a piece
• 2:44:08
  Speaker 1: of it's like, man, it would be nice to have
• 2:44:09
  Speaker 1: like fifty three guys that are just like embracing the
• 2:44:12
  Speaker 1: suck together and everyone's handling a little different way, but
• 2:44:14
  Speaker 1: we're all feeling the same thing, which is this is
• 2:44:17
  Speaker 1: really hard and we're doing it together. Yeah that's the
• 2:44:20
  Speaker 1: beautiful part about it. I agree, Dale. This has been awesome. Yeah,
• 2:44:23
  Speaker 1: it's fun. Thank you so much. Man.
• 2:44:26
  Speaker 2: We had a little marathon here.
• 2:44:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, how long was this episode? Yeah? Good work.
• 2:44:31
  Speaker 2: What's what's the average these days for you guys?
• 2:44:34
  Speaker 1: We listaid, well, ninety minutes of solid like ninety minutes.
• 2:44:40
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's our average.
• 2:44:41
  Speaker 2: That's good, all right, I'll take it as I'll call
• 2:44:45
  Speaker 2: it a success.
• 2:44:46
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• 2:44:49
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  Speaker 1: Let's go yeah some more. We need some more busts
• 2:45:08
  Speaker 1: with the boys dirty. I need an Exavier wind tonight.
• 2:45:11
  Speaker 2: I know that.
• 2:45:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna get my parlayh Who do you go
• 2:45:15
  Speaker 1: win in the next championship? The you uh mars madness? Yeah? Well,
• 2:45:25
  Speaker 1: have you done a bracket yet? No?
• 2:45:26
  Speaker 2: I'm a Tar Hill fan and I know they're in
• 2:45:28
  Speaker 2: a bad way.
• 2:45:29
  Speaker 1: But they just they played last night.
• 2:45:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah they did. I had that's one. They were one
• 2:45:35
  Speaker 2: leg of my parlay. It was Alabama State, Carolina and
• 2:45:38
  Speaker 2: now Xavier tonight.
• 2:45:40
  Speaker 1: You know you can put futures bets together as a parlay. Yeah, yeah, really,
• 2:45:45
  Speaker 1: I know one plus one eight thirteen plus eight thirteen
• 2:45:48
  Speaker 1: If you want.
• 2:45:48
  Speaker 2: I hate staring at that damn thing. I did that
• 2:45:51
  Speaker 2: with Kaitlyn Clark's average points for a year, and I'm like, golly,
• 2:45:56
  Speaker 2: every time I log in, I'm like, it's staring. It's
• 2:45:58
  Speaker 2: staring me right in the face because it's not you know,
• 2:46:00
  Speaker 2: you gotta wait months for this thing to finish out.
• 2:46:02
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, so, I like, I'm on the quick.
• 2:46:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but the futures parlay with with FANDOL and obviously
• 2:46:09
  Speaker 3: this is uh, this is actually Will March Madison is
• 2:46:12
  Speaker 3: still going on. Yeah, but you can parlay futures of
• 2:46:15
  Speaker 3: like teams getting too Sweet sixteen yeah, around the thirty
• 2:46:18
  Speaker 3: final four.
• 2:46:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can parlay together. And I got a plus
• 2:46:22
  Speaker 1: three thousand if you are three thousand? Saw that something
• 2:46:25
  Speaker 1: like that? You saw you beat this?
• 2:46:26
  Speaker 2: No, I saw it on social media. I know what
• 2:46:28
  Speaker 2: you do.
• 2:46:30
  Speaker 1: You like it.
• 2:46:31
  Speaker 2: I know what you're doing.
• 2:46:32
  Speaker 1: What I did.
• 2:46:34
  Speaker 2: I got on a parlay that you had during the
• 2:46:36
  Speaker 2: NFL season and it was a rough one. I don't
• 2:46:39
  Speaker 2: want to admit what we bet, not the amount of money.
• 2:46:42
  Speaker 2: I had one unit, but like the teams we were
• 2:46:45
  Speaker 2: betting on, I was it.
• 2:46:46
  Speaker 3: Was yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I'm doing I know, yeah,
• 2:46:49
  Speaker 3: because we were texting.
• 2:46:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the fall, you'll see more of those parlays as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 2:46:56
  Speaker 1: damn will. And I got to this point late in
• 2:46:58
  Speaker 1: the season last year. It was like the higher the
• 2:47:01
  Speaker 1: plus odds, the better the parlay was. Yes, like your
• 2:47:05
  Speaker 1: nine legs plus ten thousand, Right.
• 2:47:07
  Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. But if that's no way to live, you're
• 2:47:12
  Speaker 2: going to be pissed.
• 2:47:14
  Speaker 1: You put an iPad showing your college football twenty five
• 2:47:18
  Speaker 1: of everything. Yeah, we can put together some spicy parlays like.
• 2:47:22
  Speaker 2: My my spicy parlay. And I might get clown for this,
• 2:47:25
  Speaker 2: but like I'll go in. It was right before March Madness,
• 2:47:29
  Speaker 2: and it's you can do this now with the ones
• 2:47:30
  Speaker 2: versus the sixteens. But I like stack all the ones,
• 2:47:33
  Speaker 2: you know, the ones to beat the sixteens. So I'll
• 2:47:36
  Speaker 2: build like a plus two hundred with like nine nine legs.
• 2:47:42
  Speaker 1: See, that's a crazy way to live, in my opinion,
• 2:47:45
  Speaker 1: but those are almost automatic.
• 2:47:46
  Speaker 3: But you're getting you're guarantee guarantee to plus two hundred
• 2:47:50
  Speaker 3: odds with a nine leg parlay.
• 2:47:53
  Speaker 1: And they all should win. I am.
• 2:47:55
  Speaker 2: I would say in the past month, I am probably
• 2:48:00
  Speaker 2: eighteen and two with seven or more legs in my
• 2:48:04
  Speaker 2: parlays in basketball alone.
• 2:48:08
  Speaker 1: Hey, I was gonna I'll show you the I'll open up,
• 2:48:12
  Speaker 1: I'll open up my mind. Where's the path. I'll show
• 2:48:16
  Speaker 1: it to you. If you if you took half the
• 2:48:18
  Speaker 1: effort as you do that that game as you'd be
• 2:48:21
  Speaker 1: a billionaire.
• 2:48:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta get careful because I mean, you got
• 2:48:25
  Speaker 2: to do like four hundred four fifty five hundred odds
• 2:48:28
  Speaker 2: on seven or nine parlays to get to like plus
• 2:48:30
  Speaker 2: one hundred hundredree hundred something like that. But it's you know,
• 2:48:33
  Speaker 2: it's gonna usually playing payout. Yeah, that's probably not a
• 2:48:36
  Speaker 2: popular way to do it.
• 2:48:38
  Speaker 3: Now, you just said eighteen and to the way you
• 2:48:39
  Speaker 3: did it, and I'm trying to criticize, like I'm and eighteen.
• 2:48:43
  Speaker 1: Well, you're betting. You're a plus ten thousand odd buddy,
• 2:48:47
  Speaker 1: I won a few games.
• 2:48:49
  Speaker 3: That's kind of a number that parlays. I'm like I said,
• 2:48:53
  Speaker 3: betting straight up, Yeah, parlays. I we had it.
• 2:48:56
  Speaker 1: We do gambling. I want to join.
• 2:48:58
  Speaker 2: I want to tell some of your that's man, But
• 2:49:00
  Speaker 2: you gonna gotta clean it up a little bit.
• 2:49:06
  Speaker 1: Come on, we will, We'll clean them up, we'll get
• 2:49:08
  Speaker 1: dialed in for football season. Let's go. I'll even run
• 2:49:11
  Speaker 1: them by you. Let's go. Yeah, I'll put hey, I'll
• 2:49:14
  Speaker 1: get on. I'll tell you best. I ain't care, I
• 2:49:16
  Speaker 1: ain't scared. There you go. Appreciate you, appreciate your brother y'all. Man,
• 2:49:21
  Speaker 1: it's fun. Thanks for having me. Big hugs, tiny kisses.
• 2:49:24
  Speaker 1: Three hour pod. Damn right,