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325-Elana van Deventer: Told She Was Stupid at Eight, Now She Builds With Dr. Leaf · Stuck No More Voices

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  Theresa: Can you believe you could have a brain injury at the age of four and then turn out to be one of the leading faith and neuroscience mentors out there, leaders?
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  Theresa: Hold on.
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  Theresa: This is gonna be a great episode.
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  Theresa: We're gonna talk about neuroscience.
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  Theresa: Hey, I'm Theresa Croft.
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  Theresa: Welcome back to the Stuck No More Voices podcast.
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  Theresa: I'm a visibility strategist for Christian women, helping them go from their calling to their story to a message of their ideal audience.
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  Theresa: It's called The Calling Table Session.
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  Theresa: It's a seat for Christian women whose story deserves to be handled with care and whose voice is ready to be heard, so pull up a chair.
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  Theresa: Today at the table is one of my best friends, good friends, Elana Van Deventer.
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  Theresa: Elana, welcome.
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  Elana: Woo-hoo.
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  Theresa: Now, Elana, we could go for an hour with your stories.
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  Theresa: You're, you're a neuroscience You have your own business.
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  Theresa: I mean, it's all there.
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  Theresa: From four years old to here you are.
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  Theresa: So why don't you take us a little bit on that journey of that brain injury to what you experienced.
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  Theresa: Well- Yeah and
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  Elana: you said we only have 20 minutes.
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  Theresa: Yeah.
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  Theresa: I may give...
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  Theresa: Since you're my friend, I may give you 25 minutes.
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  Elana: 25, yes, yes.
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  Elana: Just got a extra five.
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  Elana: Um, yeah, so I born and raised South African.
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  Elana: And, um, had a ver- uh, had a brain injury, a serious concussion at a very young age.
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  Elana: I, um, actually forgot about it until years later when my sister reminded me of it.
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  Theresa: Wow.
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  Elana: But, um, and, um, so unknowingly I created a lot of beliefs, um- Mm around my, my worth and my identity.
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  Elana: Mm.
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  Elana: I did, um...
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  Elana: I remember a core memory that I do have associated with it is, um, I know that I had to learn to speak properly again-
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  Theresa: Wow
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  Elana: and walk.
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  Elana: And I, I remember being pushed in a pram.
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  Elana: Um, and I struggled really in school as well.
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  Elana: I was labeled as someone with a learning disability, and along the way I picked up a lot of beliefs and stories and meanings- Yeah myself and, and I remember, um, my grade e- eight maths teacher told me that,"You're stupid and you will get nowhere in life." Wow.
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  Elana: And the funny thing about it now looking back, um, is that he was only affirming what I already believed about myself.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Elana: And so, so often we will always receive evidence of what we believe as truth, and our life truly re- heads in the direction of our most dominant thoughts.
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  Elana: I grew up, um, obviously with a lot of limits, self-imposed, and financially we couldn't go and study after school.
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  Theresa: Right.
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  Elana: And to be honest, I also didn't put myself in a place to even if I was able to, to qualify to go and study, because again, I limited myself in a lot of aspects- Wow and areas.
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  Theresa: Yeah.
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  Elana: Um, I, the not enough really went into not just the way I saw myself, but also the way I put myself out there.
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  Elana: Wow.
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  Elana: It was in my relationships, it was in my- Ah finances.
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  Elana: Yeah.
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  Elana: And it really does show up in all aspects.
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  Theresa: Yeah.
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  Elana: Fast-forward-
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  Theresa: Yeah
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  Elana: um, I'm like thinking,"Okay, 25 is what must I give up?" I did have a eating disorder again, not being, feeling like you're ever enough.
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  Elana: Mm.
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  Elana: So no matter what you do, you just feel like you're never measured up and, and it's just never enough.
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  Theresa: Yeah.
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  Theresa: So-
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  Elana: And yeah
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  Theresa: so you were well-known in South Africa for the beauty contests and stuff, but something happened that dramatically turned that around.
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  Theresa: Yes.
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  Theresa: And it's a tiny cold town in Canada.
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  Theresa: Yes.
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  Theresa: Take us with that story,'cause that's, that's tough.
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  Elana: Yes.
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  Elana: Uh, I like how you guided me to a key component.
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  Elana: You know me so well.
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  Elana: There was something that stuck with me, and, and we often do this now that I know the, the neuroscience behind it, but we...
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  Elana: I was introduced as the pretty one.
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  Elana: And so- Mm I started believing that that is all I have and that was my purpose, and if I got invited or I got a photo shoot, then I felt enough.
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  Elana: Yeah.
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  Elana: And so I was always looking for this external validation, but it's fleeting because it's not really our identity and it's not-
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  Theresa: Yeah it's
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  Elana: not something that's rooted- Yeah and sustainable and lasting.
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  Elana: And so we immigrated years after.
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  Elana: Just before, prior to the immigration, we, um, I got signed as a model, at last, and I'm like,"I finally made it'cause this is my worth." Yeah.
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  Elana: And then we immigrated to that very cold, tiny town, and I still ask Canadians,"Do you know where this little town is?" And they're like,"No, I don't know."
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  Theresa: Yeah.
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  Elana: So we moved to this small little town in Northwest Ontario, and our first winter was like record-breaking cold, minus- Wow 50.
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  Elana: You're not-
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  Theresa: No kidding
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  Elana: allowed to go out of the house.
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  Elana: And from, being from South Africa, this is like
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  Theresa: a unknown.
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  Theresa: Yeah.
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  Elana: I didn't even, I didn't even know that it's possible for your eyeballs to freeze.
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  Elana: Wow.
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  Elana: Apparently it's a thing.
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  Elana: That I've learned since I've immigrated to Canada.
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  Theresa: Wow.
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  Elana: And so in this season of feeling like my identity was ripped away and my, my worth- I s- fell into a deep depression.
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  Theresa: Yeah.
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  Elana: And I was...
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  Elana: Just felt so resentful towards my husband because I felt like he's the reason I've lost everything.
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  Elana: Yes.
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  Theresa: Yeah.
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  Elana: But now looking back, I also see how God was so in the process of us getting to Canada.
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  Theresa: Yeah.
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  Theresa: Wow.
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  Elana: The whole process was unheard of, how quickly it happened, how everything was taken care of financially.
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  Theresa: Wow.
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  Elana: And, um, how even our, our lawyer said,"This is unheard of how quickly this happened." Yeah.
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  Theresa: Wow.
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  Elana: And now, obviously now looking back, I can see how God was in the process, but I've learned also, and I'm gonna drop it in here, that the journey itself isn't always easy.
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  Speaker 3: Mm.
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  Elana: And often we question the decision as wrong even, like- Wow I've made the wrong decision.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Elana: And I think with the Israelites, right, they, they, the journey was not e- easy.
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  Elana: No.
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  Elana: But there's a difference between the journey and the decision.
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  Elana: Mm.
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  Theresa: And I
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  Elana: think often we, we wish we could go back and we question our decision, but now that I see how God took, He opened the doors, the journey was hard-
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  Theresa: Yeah
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  Elana: immigrant in a foreign country, feeling like everything was ripped away from you and taken away from you.
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  Elana: Yeah.
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  Elana: To now we, I can see the fruit- Yeah of being obedient within the struggle- Yeah and the hardship.
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  Elana: And but it's not, that's, I was just reflecting on it this morning that-
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  Theresa: Yeah
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  Elana: the journey's not always easy.
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  Theresa: No.
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  Elana: But it's so worth it at the end- Yeah with God, of
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  Theresa: course.
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  Theresa: And wait, God, you saw God's anchoring through it all, even in the midst, I mean, you went from having servants to no servants.
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  Theresa: That was like relationships, you know?
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  Theresa: Yeah.
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  Theresa: I mean, y- you, you had dreams, and they just felt dark and cold.
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  Elana: Yes.
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  Elana: It was all gone.
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  Elana: Like, there wasn't events to be invited to.
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  Elana: Yeah.
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  Elana: And then COVID happened as well.
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  Elana: Oh, wow.
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  Elana: So the world really got quiet.
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  Elana: Yeah.
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  Elana: And COVID ended up being one of my, um, where I rerooted- Okay got rerooted.
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  Elana: Okay.
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  Elana: 'Cause the world was quiet.
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  Elana: There wasn't something to strive for, to hustle for.
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  Theresa: Yeah.
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  Elana: And, and that's really where God took me to the soil, and it's in the soil that my realignment right from the root up happened.
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  Elana: And, and obviously, uh, that's how sustainable and lasting healing and transformation also works.
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  Theresa: That was the pivot.
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  Theresa: Yes.
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  Theresa: It had to come from you.
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  Theresa: And the, the image of being re- rerooted.
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  Theresa: And then of all things, are you...
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  Theresa: How long were, how long was it till you got over to, uh, Vancouver?
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  Elana: Oh, yeah.
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  Elana: So we now in Van- we in Canada nine years already, and we in Vancouver for five years.
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  Theresa: Okay.
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  Theresa: So tell me about, you're sitting there and you get an email, and yet that's not for me.
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  Theresa: And then it comes again.
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  Theresa: Yeah.
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  Theresa: Tell us that.
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  Theresa: That is so funny.
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  Elana: So after the, after I struggled with depression and I became suicidal, there was a journey of simply choosing daily-
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  Theresa: Yeah
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  Elana: to, um, just sit with God and, and work on my own healing.
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  Elana: Yeah.
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  Elana: And that happened in the, the soil and the deep- Yeah like inner spaces and places.
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  Elana: And I, from that, I actually created my own coaching program, the Revive Method™.
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  Elana: Yeah, Revive Method™, yeah.
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  Elana: And Identity Alignment, because I felt like that's truly what happened.
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  Elana: There was a misalignment within my identity, and funny enough, the visual I used was a tree.
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  Theresa: Unbelievable.
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  Elana: This was before I started doing the work I'm doing now.
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  Elana: So this was right, take me right back couple of, like six years ago, seven years ago.
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  Theresa: Wow.
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  Elana: And so Revive Method™was born from my own struggle and the journey I walked, and I, uh, um- I remember we...
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  Elana: I had to register my business because now I'm seeing clients, and I just felt as I'm completing the, the, the document, Ontario is not where I will be rooted.
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  Theresa: Yeah.
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  Elana: BC is where you'll be rooted.
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  Elana: And I remember thinking,"This is crazy." Yeah.
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  Elana: "I'm living in Ontario." And I actually held off with the, the completing the details, and I just felt like nothing happens.
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  Elana: So
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  Theresa: you heard BC like in the spirit, of your spirit, right?
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  Elana: Yeah.
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  Theresa: Okay.
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  Elana: Yeah.
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  Elana: I felt like the Holy Spirit put a...
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  Elana: prompted me that this is not gonna be where you will be earthed.
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  Elana: And I know...
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  Elana: I still remember the word earthed and rooted.
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  Theresa: Earthed, yeah.
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  Elana: And not long after that- Gerard got a job o- offer and we moved to BC.
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  Theresa: Wow.
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  Elana: And we, uh...
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  Elana: I remember still sitting in this office and still doing the Ro- Revive Method, and I was on this mission to find out what is this missing component that we as, as women, as individuals, we sit in rooms with the door open.
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  Elana: That's what it felt like to me, even for myself as well.
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  Elana: Okay.
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  Elana: Yes, I've done a lot of healing, but it's, it felt like I'm still shrinking, I'm still playing small.
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  Elana: Wow.
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  Elana: It's still sitting in the room with the door open.
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  Speaker 3: Hmm.
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  Elana: And that took me on this journey of, of doing more- Yeah more studies.
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  Elana: And I was on this mission to find the missing component.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Elana: And I remember one day- Mm-hmm I received an email from Dr.
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  Elana: Leaf's office.
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  Elana: Now, someone that had a brain in- injury and grew up in South Africa, we all know, know Caroline
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  Theresa: Leaf.
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  Theresa: Dr.
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  Theresa: Leaf.
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  Theresa: Leaf,
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  Elana: yeah.
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  Elana: So we all know her.
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  Theresa: Okay.
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  Elana: We grew up with her household name.
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  Elana: Right.
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  Elana: She did a lot of incredible work in South Africa.
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  Theresa: Okay.
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  Elana: But I never read one of her books- because my good- I struggle to read a book period.
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  Elana: Why would I- That's funny.
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  Elana: Right, right go read a freaking a neurosciences book?
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  Theresa: So what did you do with that email?
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  Elana: I deleted it.
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  Elana: I deleted it.
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  Elana: And I know that Leaf team, they are really good at marketing, and not long after that I received another email that she's opening up facilitation, neurocycle facilitation, for the first time.
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  Elana: And I just rem- felt...
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  Elana: remember feeling that I have to apply even if I have to do it with my eyes closed.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Elana: And I kid you not, I pressed enter and I hit send closing my eyes because I was dead afraid and scared of what will happen next, and I didn't expect a reply.
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  Elana: And I was accepted
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  Theresa: Now you know the rest of the story.
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  Theresa: You know, your five-second moment was,"I hit enter." And you even wondered if your husband had a plan because you deleted the first one.
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  Theresa: Yes.
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  Theresa: And now, now you're, you're one of...
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  Theresa: I can say this, you're one of the leading neurocycle facilitators, now gonna be called strategists, and you really, you got to learn...
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  Theresa: You had to go through your own 63 cycles, so- Yeah that revealed a lot to you.
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  Theresa: If, if you don't know, they don't go 21 days.
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  Theresa: Absolutely They go 63 days.
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  Elana: Yes,
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  Theresa: 63 days.
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  Theresa: Like, that, was that a turning point for you mentally to go through that and find out what your origin story was?
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  Elana: I often share this because I think if, if Dr.
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  Elana: Lee did not make the 63-day-
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  Theresa: Yeah
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  Elana: s- part of the certification, and I remember walking out of there and I was like,"Why would she do this to us?
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  Elana: We have so much to study.
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  Elana: We have to do a case study.
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  Elana: We have to do, study the- Yeah the sci- like, there's just so much already on our plate.
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  Elana: Why would she add this additional neurocycle personal, like, individual cycle to the to-do list?" And I know now why, and we recently also spoke about it as we were working on the strategist offer.
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  Theresa: Yeah.
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  Elana: If, if we didn't do our own neurocycle, I still would've just sat with valuable information.
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  Theresa: Yes.
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  Elana: Yes.
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  Elana: If we don't learn how to renew our minds and manage our minds, we struggle to go from knowledge to application.
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  Theresa: Yeah.
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  Elana: And that's truly where everything started for me.
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  Elana: I remember I had to show up 63 days nonstop, do my own neurocycle, still study, still do the, the c- case study-
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  Theresa: Yeah
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  Elana: and everything else.
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  Elana: But it changed my life completely because I, for the first time, I was able to renew my mind in a sustainable and a lasting way, where it wasn't just- 21 days, but we, it was actually how renewal happens and you spend 63 days, and that's what we see with the studies.
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  Elana: And that's how I was able to take what she provided and apply it in, in, uh, in my own life and in my business-
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  Theresa: Yeah
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  Elana: in a way that is sustainable and, and lasting because it is truly, God is in the details.
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  Elana: Yeah.
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  Elana: And renewal is available for everyone and anyone, but you have to choose to do it.
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  Elana: Choose,
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  Theresa: choose.
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  Theresa: I have-
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  Elana: Change is always happening.
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  Elana: Right.
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  Elana: You get to choose.
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  Elana: That's free will.
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  Elana: We get to choose in which direction.
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  Elana: Absolutely.
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  Elana: And that's truly, like you said, where everything changed for me.
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  Theresa: So obviously I've, I've been with Elana for a few years, and the other day I got so emotional.
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  Theresa: I was going through my YouTube, and I was looking for something, and I record my sessions with her'cause then I can take notes- Mm or you put'em into ChatGPT, and I have Elana in ChatGPT, which you may think that's crazy.
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  Theresa: But it was just like the other day, I was at work, and I was looking, and I just went through...
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  Theresa: I said,"There she was.
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  Theresa: There she was." Down to another year.
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  Theresa: There she was.
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  Theresa: My beginning years where all I did was talk and go around the mountain.
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  Theresa: There she was.
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  Theresa: My cancer years, showing up- True and having coffee with me.
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  Theresa: And, you know, I had a guest, yeah, last night who had a person, like her, sh- her person was like an Elana.
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  Theresa: And I'm saying all this to say- Oh, how do I, how do I walk this tightrope?
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  Theresa: I'll just use my own experience.
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  Theresa: I had counseling after, this is after my husband died, 26 years of a lot of abuse.
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  Theresa: And the counseling, they're like after a few sessions,"Oh, you're good enough," and I'm like,"Oh." There was something- Mm gnawing at me.
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  Theresa: And I saw Elana at the top of the year in 2023, and she was a guest at a, at a, a video thing.
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  Theresa: I'm like,"There's something about her.
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  Theresa: I get that." And then lo and behold, come May or n- anyway, around May, I won a contest to have a s- session with her.
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  Theresa: And let me tell you, after...
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  Theresa: I think she gave me an hour.
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  Theresa: It was like,"What do you got?
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  Theresa: I need it." Yeah.
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  Theresa: And that was my journey, still having to do the work, but I think what was important for me with, was having a friend who was also my mentor.
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  Theresa: So- Mm you know, uh, there's just no replacement for that.
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  Theresa: I mean, I prayed.
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  Theresa: That was my story.
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  Theresa: I prayed Psalm 15 in the Passion translation, and I had to wait a long time.
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  Theresa: But if you really desire help...
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  Theresa: And you know- Yeah one thing I like about Elana sh- it's neuroscience.
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  Theresa: It's proven facts.
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  Theresa: And, uh, it's just so, it's such a joy to have you on and go over our 20-minute time zone and
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  Elana: You can probably hear my family in the background
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  Theresa: as well.
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  Theresa: I hear s- I said, was that Matt?
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  Theresa: I know her family.
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  Theresa: It's Daryl.
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  Theresa: Her family- Daryl.
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  Theresa: The
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  Elana: whole family, we're still on summer break
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  Theresa: so I go visit, and their family- So her kids are my kids.
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  Theresa: It's just one of those things.
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  Theresa: So-
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  Elana: They...
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  Elana: Daryl's playing his
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  Theresa: Elana, I wonder, someone's listening and saying,"This neuroscience thing, I, I, I wanna get to know more." What, what would she do?
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  Theresa: To what lane would you take her?
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  Elana: To
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  Theresa: really get face-to-face with some neurocycle help
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  Elana: I think it's, it's key to explain what we say when we refer to neuroscience, and I see it as this, it's two sides of the coin.
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  Elana: We know scripture.
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  Elana: I grew up in church.
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  Elana: I could bring up scripture.
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  Elana: Right.
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  Elana: I could repeat it.
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  Elana: I knew what scripture was asking me to do.
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  Theresa: Right.
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  Elana: But I did not know how to do it.
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  Elana: I knew I'm supposed to renew my mind daily.
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  Elana: I knew I'm supposed to take my thoughts captive.
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  Elana: There was...
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  Elana: The missing component for me was how to do it in a way that is sustainable and lasting, and God truly, little by little, reveals to us our human design, and that's how I look at, at neuroscience.
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  Elana: Yes.
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  Elana: Yeah.
• 19:28
  Elana: Bring in scripture, but I wanna know how to apply it, and that's what I'm super passionate about, is like- Yeah this is what scripture is saying, this is how you do it, and this is where we see it within your human design.
• 19:41
  Elana: Because I truly f- I truly believe He's in the details and that He'll never leave us nor forsake us.
• 19:45
  Elana: We, we mention a concern, and when you look at your human design, you see a, a solution for it, which is- Yeah so powerful.
• 19:54
  Elana: That's what drives me as well.
• 19:56
  Theresa: Yeah.
• 19:56
  Elana: So neuroscience itself and the neurocycle itself is two sides of the coin, which I'm...
• 20:02
  Elana: What I'm obviously super excited about is, as I've been helping Dr.
• 20:05
  Elana: Leaf now, listen to this, the girl that struggled to do- maths is now helping put the strategist- neurocycle strategist offer together.
• 20:16
  Elana: Come on, now.
• 20:17
  Elana: Come on now.
• 20:17
  Elana: Come on.
• 20:18
  Elana: Like, now tell me God is not- In the details like He's truly not victim to our circumstances or our biology.
• 20:25
  Theresa: Yeah.
• 20:25
  Elana: Um, and He's got a great sense of humor as well.
• 20:27
  Elana: Yeah.
• 20:27
  Elana: Like, how did that...
• 20:28
  Elana: I didn't even read one of her books.
• 20:29
  Elana: How is it even possible- Yeah I'm sitting in the same room as her and bringing this offer, creating it alongside her?
• 20:37
  Elana: It's just God is truly, truly for everyone and anyone, and we simply have to choose.
• 20:44
  Elana: So I just wanna just clarify that two side of the...
• 20:49
  Elana: two sides of the coins- And the strategist offer is super exciting because there isn't something like this out there.
• 20:56
  Elana: Yeah.
• 20:56
  Elana: It brings in Jeremiah 1:5, which I know as well.
• 20:59
  Elana: "Before you were born, you were set apart." What does it mean?
• 21:02
  Elana: How, how do we, when we look at our, our design, what is that, how does it look like?
• 21:08
  Elana: Um, how does it mean?
• 21:09
  Elana: How do, we apply that in our lives?
• 21:11
  Elana: And that is within the strategist.
• 21:13
  Elana: It's your gift profile, it's your blueprint.
• 21:16
  Elana: Mm.
• 21:16
  Elana: It is your customized thinking, um, which is part of it.
• 21:20
  Elana: And then we look at your, your limiting mindsets and your launching mindsets, and we bring in the neurocycle lane, which is mind management, which is renewal of the mind.
• 21:29
  Elana: Yeah.
• 21:30
  Elana: Um, all the identity is the key component of it.
• 21:34
  Elana: So I'm super excited about it because- Yeah I can see how it's gonna help so many people.
• 21:39
  Theresa: You know, if you're a coach, that would be a good thing to have in your pocket to also- Yes be able.
• 21:45
  Theresa: So listen, if you wanna get an education, just follow Elana on Instagram,@elanavdeventer.
• 21:53
  Theresa: Is that...
• 21:54
  Theresa: And, and, and she's very faithful to DM or if you have a question.
• 21:58
  Theresa: I hate to do that to you.
• 21:59
  Theresa: You're gonna be busy.
• 22:00
  Theresa: But- you also have Well Minds.
• 22:03
  Theresa: Do you have Well Minds, uh, website up or not yet?
• 22:07
  Elana: Not yet.
• 22:08
  Elana: Okay.
• 22:08
  Elana: It is because of the shift now with the new offer.
• 22:11
  Elana: Yeah.
• 22:11
  Elana: I didn't wanna do double work.
• 22:13
  Elana: Yeah.
• 22:13
  Elana: Sorry, I'm sorry to those people- No, you worked
• 22:14
  Theresa: your tail
• 22:15
  Elana: off at once.
• 22:16
  Elana: So we're bringing that in.
• 22:18
  Elana: There will soon be a lead offer, a lead magnet for everyone.
• 22:22
  Elana: Yeah.
• 22:22
  Elana: Which will just help you- Yeah solve patterns and, and so we do.
• 22:25
  Theresa: Don't worry.
• 22:26
  Theresa: I'll, I'll keep you updated on that.
• 22:28
  Theresa: It's
• 22:29
  Elana: coming.
• 22:30
  Theresa: Well, well, Elana, thank you so much.
• 22:32
  Theresa: And listen, you guys, that's today's table session with Elana, and if her story moved you, do go find her handle@elanavdeventer.
• 22:43
  Theresa: You'll get kind of the center of what's going on, and you'll get some great teaching.
• 22:47
  Theresa: Yeah.
• 22:48
  Theresa: Some stories- I'm not for scrolling past, and this is one of them.
• 22:54
  Theresa: So I'm Theresa Croft for the Stuck No More Voices podcast, along with the Calling Table session.
• 23:02
  Theresa: Thank you for joining us, and thanks Elana.
• 23:04
  Theresa: I love you so much.
• 23:05
  Elana: Thank you.