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Today’s Popcorn Moment: New Mexico Gov doesn't believe constitutional oaths are absolute · Tony Katz | Popcorn Moment

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  Speaker 2: It's a story you need to hear to believe. Then
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  Speaker 2: governor of.
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  Speaker 1: New Mexico. And I was trying to figure out, is
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  Speaker 1: this new or is this from 2023?
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  Speaker 3: 2023.
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  Speaker 2: When the governor was trying to ban firearms, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: staring at this video, and I'm like, when is this from?
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  Speaker 1: Now, no one's in a mask in this video. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to.
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  Speaker 2: Say that this is newer, that this seems to be
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  Speaker 2: something that's back up in the conversation. So I couldn't
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  Speaker 2: figure out what I was actually looking at in terms of,
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  Speaker 2: When this was said, but I want to put forth
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  Speaker 2: to you where a philosophy lies. This is the governor
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  Speaker 2: of New Mexico, Grisham. And this was the conversation as
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  Speaker 2: she's sitting next to law enforcement.
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  Speaker 1: This was her. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But your point is valid. You took an oath to
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  Speaker 3: the Constitution.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't it unconstitutional to say you cannot exercise your carry license?
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  Speaker 3: With one exception, and that is if there's an emergency,
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  Speaker 3: and I've declared an emergency for a temporary amount of time,
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  Speaker 3: I can invoke additional powers. No constitutional right, in my view,
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  Speaker 3: including my oath, is intended to be absolute.
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  Speaker 2: There Your oath is not absolute. Now, I'm, again, I
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  Speaker 2: look at this and I say, I don't know why
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  Speaker 2: this popped up into my feed. The governor's name is
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  Speaker 2: Michelle Lujan Grisham. But I took that and I watched it.
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  Speaker 2: I said, first of all, how maddening that you think
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  Speaker 2: because of some emergency that you declare, you can decide
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  Speaker 2: that we no longer have our rights.
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  Speaker 1: But how....
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  Speaker 2: Radical that you could say that your oath is not absolute.
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  Speaker 1: And that part struck me.
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  Speaker 3: There's an emergency, and I've declared an emergency for a
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  Speaker 3: temporary amount of time. I can invoke additional powers. No
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  Speaker 3: constitutional right, in my view, including my oath, is intended
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  Speaker 3: to be absolute.
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  Speaker 1: If an oath isn't absolute, can I ask.
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  Speaker 1: What an oath is.
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  Speaker 2: If the oath isn't absolute, why take it? Again, this
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  Speaker 2: could have been from three years ago. But that sentiment,
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  Speaker 2: which I had not heard at the time, I thought
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  Speaker 2: was worthy of sharing.
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  Speaker 1: Is this the way.
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  Speaker 2: People still are is is this what we see that
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  Speaker 2: the that we everything that we are supposed to want
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  Speaker 2: to hold to is somehow now up for grabs and
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  Speaker 2: up for debate it came on the heels of a
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  Speaker 2: story about populism wall street journal the growing popularity of
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  Speaker 2: populist policies which is not an easy thing to say
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  Speaker 2: thank goodness i'm a trained professional There's support for caps
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  Speaker 2: on prescription drug prices and strong border security. Well, the
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  Speaker 2: idea that you should have caps on prescription prices, that's...
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  Speaker 2: So now we want the government to decide profits.
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  Speaker 1: Do we understand what we're saying here?
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  Speaker 2: Do we understand how much this aligns with Bernie Sanders
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  Speaker 2: and Zoran Mamdani? Is everybody sure of what they're doing?
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  Speaker 2: And this, would you call this moral relativism? Is that
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  Speaker 2: how it would get described, the concept of moral relativism?
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  Speaker 2: That somehow you can just make a change in your
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  Speaker 2: value system because, well, that's the way everyone is now.
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  Speaker 2: The values is about how we should be. The values
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  Speaker 2: is about holding on to something. We hear often about
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  Speaker 2: our values, but look at how they morph and change
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  Speaker 2: and maneuver.
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  Speaker 1: Based on it.
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  Speaker 2: Being easier. You don't hold on to a value because
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  Speaker 2: it's easy. You hold on to a value because you
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  Speaker 2: actually value it. When I eat bacon, sorry, Rabbi, I
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  Speaker 2: don't expect Judaism to change.
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  Speaker 1: That's insane. I'm not living up to it.
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  Speaker 2: The standard is the standard.
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  Speaker 1: I have fallen below. Why should the standard get ripped asunder?
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  Speaker 1: I took an oath. Oh, well, now the oath is hard. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: no more oath for me.
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  Speaker 2: And you wonder why people submit in the UK or
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  Speaker 2: in other places. And then you realize you don't have
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  Speaker 2: to wonder. It's because they don't actually hold fast to anything.
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  Speaker 2: And we need more people holding fast. Anyway, it came
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  Speaker 2: across my feed and I thought that part about the
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  Speaker 2: oath was really worthy of sharing. That people are willing
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  Speaker 2: to take away your Second Amendment rights. For the Democrats,
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  Speaker 2: that's just standard operating procedure. Tonight, If you are able
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  Speaker 2: the doors open, I believe at six and, um, I
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  Speaker 2: think the program begins at six 40 and you are welcome, uh, to, to,
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  Speaker 2: to be there, uh, the crew will be there.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be there.
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  Speaker 2: I will be speaking. I, I've written something and I
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  Speaker 2: have thrown it out and I've written something and I've
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  Speaker 2: thrown it out.
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  Speaker 1: Um, I, I think that overall these things are.
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  Speaker 2: Good and I hope people, um, attend and, and, and, uh,
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  Speaker 2: feel good about being there.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, I, I've always known that I'm in, in many ways,
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  Speaker 1: just one odd guy.
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  Speaker 2: Um, I was more prepared for this a week ago
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  Speaker 2: than I am today. I'm not going to break down
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  Speaker 2: or anything like that.
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  Speaker 1: That is not my want, but rather, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I have thrown out what I was going to say
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  Speaker 2: numerous times because I don't think it's something that I
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  Speaker 2: want to just off the cuff. I think it should matter.
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  Speaker 2: And I haven't found anything yet that rises to the occasion,
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  Speaker 2: but I will be there. I hope to do well
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